Celto-Germanic vs Balto-Slavic vs Celto-Romance vs Indo-Iranic

[cass]

Because Nestor was a Polyanian.

Lucky dude.
It is no coincidence that the same tribe was the leader in the East and the West

[Ugo]

Lucky dude.
It is no coincidence that the same tribe was the leader in the East and the West

They are not the same tribe. The Russian Polyane belonged to the Volyntsev culture. Polish Polyane to Luka-raykovetskaya. Both lived in the field(pole).

[cass]

These are not authentic wooden buildings. Restored museums + Luzhichans have nothing to do with Poles.
One of the largest cities in Europe in the 10th century was Gnezdovo (Smolensk). In my opinion, the 2nd place after Paris. Poland is a village compared to Russia.

LOL

The Lechitic (or Lekhitic) languages are a language subgroup consisting of Polish and several other languages and dialects that were once spoken in the area that is now Poland and eastern Germany.[1] It is one of the branches of the larger West Slavic subgroup; the other branches of this subgroup are the Czech–Slovak languages and the Sorbian languages.

It is very good that such archaeological objects are being restored.
The structure is identical to the Lusatian fortresses of the Bronze Age. Biskupin is largely original, discovered after the water level was lowered.

[Ugo]

LOL




It is very good that such archaeological objects are being restored.
The structure is identical to the Lusatian fortresses of the Bronze Age. Biskupin is largely original, discovered after the water level was lowered.

What jewelry did ancient Polish women wear? I didn't find any information. They probably didn't wear clothes and jewelry at all. Why, when reconstructing the life and clothes of Slavs, Poles use the clothes of Vyatichi and Radimichi?

[thatoneton]

The first Russians were not Polyane, but the Varangians, Novgorod Slovenes, Krivichi and Finno-Ugric. They captured Polyane in 882. The Russian khaganate on the Volga has been known since the beginning of the IX century. So the younger brothers are Ukrainians. To be honest, Poles have nothing to do with Russia.

"Rus' Khaganate" is nothing else than the (Kievan) Rus state. The theory that it was a different polity is based solely on the fact that the name for its leader is sometimes given as Khagan, which comes from the steppe peoples' (mostly Turkic), influence in the region - especially the Khazar Khaganate which controlled parts of East Slavic lands. Also in 882 the capital was moved to Kiev, but Askold and Dir went to rule Kiev in 866 if I'm not mistaken.

Also (modern-day) Poles as you correctly said have nothing to do with Russia, in the past they gave birth to Radimichi and Viatichi.

The church architecture in Russia is Byzantine. It's your Papuan brain that doesn't know. Russians made residential houses like all forest Slavs - from logs, not from cow shit - as Ukrainians and Poles did.

Why do you assume Poles were not building their homes from wood?

[thatoneton]

What jewelry did ancient Polish women wear? I didn't find any information. They probably didn't wear clothes and jewelry at all. Why, when reconstructing the life and clothes of Slavs, Poles use the clothes of Vyatichi and Radimichi?

They would die from cold in the winter if they didn't wear any clothes.

[Ugo]

"Rus' Khaganate" is nothing else than the (Kievan) Rus state. The theory that it was a different polity is based solely on the fact that the name for its leader is sometimes given as Khagan, which comes from the steppe peoples' (mostly Turkic), influence in the region - especially the Khazar Khaganate which controlled parts of East Slavic lands. Also in 882 the capital was moved to Kiev, but Askold and Dir went to rule Kiev in 866 if I'm not mistaken.

Also (modern-day) Poles as you correctly said have nothing to do with Russia, in the past they gave birth to Radimichi and Viatichi.


Why do you assume Poles were not building their homes from wood?

Don't make up nonsense. The river route along the Dnieper was opened only at the end of the 9th century. The Russian khaganate has been known since the beginning of the IX century. Moreover, the Russian khaganate traded with Volga Bulgaria and Baghdad. This is possible only on the Volga, and not on the Dnieper. Go look at the geographical atlas.

Why do you assume Poles were not building their homes from wood?

Because the Poles loved to build their huts out of cow shit. There was no forest, the ancestors of the Poles lived in a field with cows. That's why you are Poles. Although you could have been called "Govnyaki".

They would die from cold in the winter if they didn't wear any clothes.

Logically. Here is the national costume of the Vyatichi woman.

[Ugo]

Any historian knows that states are created in places of trade. Hoards of coins are markers of these places. This is a treasure map of 9th century Arab coins. It was with the Arab countries that the Russian khaganate traded. There are absolutely no treasures on the map in the area of the middle Dnieper and Kiev. Only the Desna, the upper course of the Dnieper, Volkhov, Oka and Volga-Don. It was this trade route that the Russ and the Russian khaganate used. It was only at the turn of the IX-X centuries that the Russ took possession of the Dnieper. There is not a single historian who would disagree with this.

[Blondie]

You too

I already have such dress

[cass]

Don't make up nonsense. The river route along the Dnieper was opened only at the end of the 9th century. The Russian khaganate has been known since the beginning of the IX century. Moreover, the Russian khaganate traded with Volga Bulgaria and Baghdad. This is possible only on the Volga, and not on the Dnieper. Go look at the geographical atlas.
Because the Poles loved to build their huts out of cow shit. There was no forest, the ancestors of the Poles lived in a field with cows. That's why you are Poles. Although you could have been called "Govnyaki".

You make yourself look like an ignoramus

[Part 1]

(1) Those who live closest to the borders of the Danes are called North Abodrites (Nortabtrezi), which is a land where there are 53 cities divided between their leaders. (2) The Wilzi (Uuilzi) have 95 cities and four lands. (3) The Linones (Linaa) are a people who have 7 cities; near them dwell those called Bethenici, and Smeldingon, and Morizani, who have 11 cities. (4) Next to them are those called Hevelli (Hehfeldi) who have 8 cities. (5) Next to them is the land called Surbi. In this country there are many smaller countries that have 50 cities. (6) Next to them are those called Talaminzi, who have 14 cities. (7) The Bohemians (Becheimare) have 15 cities. (8) The Marharii have 11 cities. (9) The country of the Bulgars (Uulgarii) is immeasurably large and has 5 cities, because for the vast majority of them it is not the custom to have cities. (10) There is a people called Moravians (Merehani) who have 30 cities.

These are the countries that are adjacent to our borders.

[Part 2]

These are those who settle next to their borders.

(11) The East Abodrites (Osterabtrezi), where there are more than 100 cities. (12) The Miloxi, where there are 67 cities. (13) The Phesnuzi have 70 cities. (14) The Thadesi have more than 200 cities. (15) The Glopeani, where there are 400 or more cities. (16) The Zuireani have 325 castles. (17) The Busani have 231 castles. (18) The Sittici have a land that is immeasurable in people and fortified cities (urbibus). (19) The Stadici, which have 516 cities and an immense people. (20) The Sebbirozi have 90 cities. (21) The Unlizi have a numerous people and 318 cities. (22) The Nerivani have 78 cities. (23) The Attorozi have 148 cities and are the wildest people. (24) The Eptaradici have 273 cities. (25) The Uuillerozi have 180 cities. (26) The Zabrozi have 212 cities. (27) The Znetalici have 73 cities. (28) The Aturezani have 104 cities. (29) The Chozirozi have 250 cities. (30) The Lendizi have 98 cities. (31) The Thafnezi have 257 cities. (32) The Zerivani is such a great kingdom that all the peoples of the Slavs arose and derive their origin from it, as they affirm. (32) The Prissani [possibly Prussians] have 70 cities. (33) The Uuelunzani have 79 cities. (34) The Bruzi [also possibly Prussians] [whose territory is] bigger on each side [than the distance] from the Enns to the Rhine. (35) The Uuizunbeire. (36) The Khazars (Caziri) have 100 cities. (37) The Rus (Ruzzi). (38) The Forsderen. (39) The Liudi. (40) The Fresiti. (41) The Seravici. (42) The Lucolane. (43) The Hungarians (Ungare). (44) The Vistulans (Uuislane). (45) The Sleenzane have 15 cities. (46) The Lusatians (Lunsici) have 30 cities. (47) The Dadosesani have 20 cities. (48) The Milzane have 30 cities. (49) The Besunzane have 2 cities. (50) The Uuerizane have 10 cities. (51) The Fraganeo have 40 cities. (52) The Lupiglaa have 30 cities. (53) The Opolini have 20 cities. (54) The Golensizi have 5 cities.

source: Bavarian Geographer, Description of Cities and Lands on the North Bank of the Danube, ed. E. Herrmann, Slawisch-germanische Beziehungen im südostdeutschen Raum (Munich: 1965), pp. 220-1.


Only Goplans had over 400 strongholds.



90,000 qm of oak wood were used during the construction of the single stronghold in Grzybno