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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    I would also say that people from southern Germany are lighter than Walloons in Belgium
    No. Don’t generalize. There are parts of Southern Germany that may be lighter than Wallonia, but others are similar or darker. Remember Walloons are intermediates but on the light side.

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    Rural Lurs of Iran are southwestern but, on average, can be fairer than NW Iranian groups.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Oghuz View Post
    Rural Lurs of Iran are southwestern but, on average, can be fairer than NW Iranian groups.






    Proto caucasoids

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oghuz View Post
    Rural Lurs of Iran are southwestern but, on average, can be fairer than NW Iranian groups.






    These Persians seem to be much fairer than the average Iranian (Persian).
    https://cdn.cfr.org/sites/default/fi...-Iran.jpg.webp

    https://static.timesofisrael.com/www...4454881271.jpg

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    [QUOTE=Milkaner;7913965]In East Friesland (Aurich) light brown to blond hair including in reddish shades among adults can reach two thirds of the population. Nearly 40% of this are true blonds Fischer-Saller A-L or fair reddish shades IV-VI. Do you think any county in Britain is as blond?


    https://books.google.com/books?newbk...olume&q=frauen[/QUOTE

    According to my sources, there are English counties which are just as Nordic in race as Sweden or Friesland. Especially in those counties, if you added light brown and red shades, obviously it'd go over the 60% mark. I guess that you've forgotten that England is considerably more red-haired than most countries outside the British Isles. So perhaps the lack of blond hair is filled up with ginger hair. Thus making England the lightest-haired country in the British Isles. I do not dispute that the Netherlands as a whole is blonder-haired than Britain. Though there are English counties which are just as blond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    (1) Germans vs British. Despite having a more southerly latitude, Germans are blonder than the British by around 10-15 percentage points.
    Only Northern Germans maybe.
    Bavarians are definitely darker than Brits. Some of them even look almost Southern European.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Alvarez View Post
    Only Northern Germans maybe.
    Bavarians are definitely darker than Brits. Some of them even look almost Southern European.
    Bavarians are no darker than the Welsh and SW English, maybe even a little blonder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Alvarez View Post
    Only Northern Germans maybe.
    Bavarians are definitely darker than Brits. Some of them even look almost Southern European.
    XP's Europe-wide pigmentation study
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...entation-study

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    [QUOTE=Septentrion;7914752]
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkaner View Post
    In East Friesland (Aurich) light brown to blond hair including in reddish shades among adults can reach two thirds of the population. Nearly 40% of this are true blonds Fischer-Saller A-L or fair reddish shades IV-VI. Do you think any county in Britain is as blond?


    https://books.google.com/books?newbk...olume&q=frauen[/QUOTE

    According to my sources, there are English counties which are just as Nordic in race as Sweden or Friesland. Especially in those counties, if you added light brown and red shades, obviously it'd go over the 60% mark. I guess that you've forgotten that England is considerably more red-haired than most countries outside the British Isles. So perhaps the lack of blond hair is filled up with ginger hair. Thus making England the lightest-haired country in the British Isles. I do not dispute that the Netherlands as a whole is blonder-haired than Britain. Though there are English counties which are just as blond.

    Frisians are both more golden blond and more ash blond haired in adulthood than English overall. Reddish shades in England are generally deeper on average than among Frisians where they generally verge on golden-blond. About two thirds fair hair (that is excluding dark brown #4-5, chestnut #6-7, and obviously jet black #27) is around what Bryn found for his largest survey of 11,771 Norwegian recruits. Also deep brunet to black hair among the East Frisian adults is similar to Norwegian recruits and very low relative to English counterparts. Frisian groups can be just as fair haired as typical Scandinavians and lighter than typical Dutch. Even if there are regions of England fairly purely Nordic in morphology they are unlikely to be as blond as Scandinavian Nordics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    These Persians seem to be much fairer than the average Iranian (Persian).
    https://cdn.cfr.org/sites/default/fi...-Iran.jpg.webp

    https://static.timesofisrael.com/www...4454881271.jpg
    People I posted are not Persians, they are called Lurs. One famous Lur was this guy



    The image you posted is from Kerman which is southern Iran bordering Pakistan. Roughly 80 % of the population of Iran lives in North and Northwest.



    Crowds from the Largest cities like Tehran, Esfahan, Tabriz, Mashhad etc.





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