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Yes it's the most agreed origin between scholars, when the Jews got kicked out of Sicily and southern Italy which used to be hotspots for Jews they moved to eastern europe, this is why they cluster so much with Greeks and Southern Italians, because essentially they are Jewish Calabrians and Sicilians
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still, when someone has a hint of Jewish ancestry they show Levantine populations in their mix with G25 - they can be successfully modelled with southern Italians as well, but the populations the calculators pick first are Levantine/Canaanite, which I think shows that is the defining underlying ancestral component of Jews
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I wonder if a hypothetical person that is 62.5% Southern Italian, 25% Lebanese and 12.5% Polish would plot firmly in the Ashkenazi Jewish cluster.
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Last edited by Melkiirs; 03-25-2024 at 12:25 AM.
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So you have somehow generated that specific mix that I suggested? Interesting. It is pretty much an average Eastern Ashkenazi. However I would use Calabria instead, the most Middle Eastern-shifted province in Italy.
Perhaps the origin of the Ashkenazim is rather something of that kind and not the Lebanese-North Italian meme.
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Generating predicated G25 coordinates for a certain mixture can easily be done using this tool and the official datasheet:
https://dna-tools.xyz/
I used Sicilian_Central just because it produces the best fit among Italian regions combined with Lebanese_Christian and Polish. Central Sicily is still closer to Greeks than the other Sicilian averages.
Regarding North Italians of Late Antiquity being the primary source of Southern Euro admixture admixture there is not evidence either historical or genetic (e.g. IBD sharing). The Southern European admixture likely dates back to Hellenistic Judaism.
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