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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    It's funny how all those issues they obsess over only have any relevancy because mega corporations support them, the same ones that they despise. Without mega corporations, none of those stuff you mentioned would have any relevancy in the West. And in every single country, the regions where capitalism is more pronounced (big cities), you have more tolerance towards those kind of stuff. Hollywood/Disney even took risks and lost some money on a couple of movies because it was important for them to spread their ideology. And in parts of the country that are more working class heavy, you have much more intolerance towards that nonsense.

    Their obsession with these culture war topics you mentioned is the reason why they're called Cultural Marxists, because they try to take Marxist logic and apply it to a cultural context. Just replace "bourgeois" and "proletariat" with "white/straight/cisgender/abled/etc." and its opposite. They're not really Marxists though, they're evolved to become their own distinct thing. Marx and Engels would have had them executed if they were around.

    And then you have Conservatives watching all these mega corporations censoring them, promoting SJW cancel culture, funding Liberal politicians, blackwashing, gender neutral bathrooms, DEI, etc. And who do they choose to blame it all on? Communism. And then they proceed to simp for those same hyper woke corporations and call for lowering their taxes and empowering them.
    To be honest, I‘ve never seen a bunch being more obsessed with culture war than on TA. I‘ve never heard the word „woke“ so often in my life before. I‘m entirely tired of reading it.
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    Giant companies support what the state is on about and the cultural background noise en vogue. The companies were nazi in Germany, and they are communists in China even while applying the most capitalist precepts. If tomorrow the political climate severly changes and becomes a long standing phenomenon, Apple will feature in their ads white families picnicking using airpods (don't hold your breath)

    Let's not try to sell us communism as the answer to this crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    "The system's neatest trick."

    - Ted Kaczynski

    The system co-opts rebellious elements.
    So, in a nutshell, the System’s neatest trick is this:

    - For the sake of its own efficiency and security, the System needs to bring about deep and radical social changes to match the changed conditions resulting from technological progress.

    - The frustration of life under the circumstances imposed by the System leads to rebellious impulses.

    - Rebellious impulses are co-opted by the System in the service of the social changes it requires; activists “rebel” against the old and outmoded values that are no longer of use to the System and in favor of the new values that the System needs us to accept.

    - In this way rebellious impulses, which otherwise might have been dangerous to the System, are given an outlet that is not only harmless to the System, but useful to it.

    - Much of the public resentment resulting from the imposition of social changes is drawn away from the System and its institutions and is directed instead at the radicals who spearhead the social changes.

    Many people do not understand the roots of their own frustration, hence their rebellion is directionless.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/sorceryofth...ted_kaczynski/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    Giant companies support what the state is on about and the cultural background noise en vogue. The companies were nazi in Germany, and they are communists in China even while applying the most capitalist precepts. If tomorrow the political climate severly changes and becomes a long standing phenomenon, Apple will feature in their ads white families picnicking using airpods (don't hold your breath)

    Let's not try to sell us communism as the answer to this crap.
    I watched a segment on the news about old fashioned headphones making a comeback. I never bought airpods. I have old fashioned headphones. I only use them at home though, with my laptop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    So, in a nutshell, the System’s neatest trick is this:

    - For the sake of its own efficiency and security, the System needs to bring about deep and radical social changes to match the changed conditions resulting from technological progress.

    - The frustration of life under the circumstances imposed by the System leads to rebellious impulses.

    - Rebellious impulses are co-opted by the System in the service of the social changes it requires; activists “rebel” against the old and outmoded values that are no longer of use to the System and in favor of the new values that the System needs us to accept.

    - In this way rebellious impulses, which otherwise might have been dangerous to the System, are given an outlet that is not only harmless to the System, but useful to it.

    - Much of the public resentment resulting from the imposition of social changes is drawn away from the System and its institutions and is directed instead at the radicals who spearhead the social changes.

    Many people do not understand the roots of their own frustration, hence their rebellion is directionless.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/sorceryofth...ted_kaczynski/
    I'm sorry but I don't understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    Giant companies support what the state is on about and the cultural background noise en vogue.
    This isn't true at all, corporations will try to promote Liberalism or Critical Theory unless the state abuses its power and limits the free market.

    India is run by a government that is anti-LGBT (and all previous governments of theirs were), yet corporations try to push Wokeness in India all the time:
    https://hr.economictimes.indiatimes....oyees/89033182
    https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/0...genderism/amp/
    https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...8.cms?from=mdr
    https://www.livemint.com/money/perso...344656017.html

    Corporations have been trying to push this since the late 20th century there:
    https://www.news18.com/news/india/10...ms-593286.html
    https://surbhimisra9.medium.com/the-...0-3838e90d986b

    This isn't Liberal Democratic America, this is freaking third world conservative India run by a nationalist conservative government for the past 10 years (and their previous government was also heavily conservative by Western Liberal standards).

    Ford Foundation in 1990 was one of the wealthiest corporations in America and they openly funded LGBT when it was unpopular to do so and the governments opposed it:


    How Capitalism led to LGBT rights (article is from a Gay Socialist):
    https://jacobin.com/2020/08/gay-iden...apitalism-lgbt

    Same author again:


    Different author on the topic:
    https://www.cato.org/commentary/capi...led-gay-rights

    This doesn't only apply to LGBT, but other Liberal stuff as well. But LGBT is their favorite thing to promote and I know more about the subject. You can also see it with Hollywood blackwashing and stuff like Google's AI temporarily banning all White people depictions, which is not only unprofitable, but much more extreme than what the state promotes. To be clear, I don't necessarily oppose all of it by the way, just pointing out most corporations are very ideologically driven. If the state can have its own ideology, I don't see why corporations can't. Most of them are run by Leftist educated people after all.

    Corporations are always more Liberal than the state. Just look at how Google and other mega corporations fund Democrats who want to tax them instead of Republicans who want to lower their tax. It's cause despite what people say about them, they have an ideology of their own. High IQ / rich people have a very strong tendency to be Liberal. It's also why academia is so Woke. The highest IQ groups in America are Anglicans (AKA Episcopalians) and Ashkenazi Jews, and they're the biggest supporters of Progressive policies as well as the wealthiest groups.

    The companies were nazi in Germany, and they are communists in China even while applying the most capitalist precepts. If tomorrow the political climate severly changes and becomes a long standing phenomenon, Apple will feature in their ads white families picnicking using airpods (don't hold your breath).
    Companies are reigned in by the state there. The more power the state has and the less power corporate has, the stronger Conservative ideology is there. It however comes with the drawback of crippling of the economy. Just look at how Conservative statist Socialist-leaning countries like the USSR, Mao China, Venezuela, North Korea, NSDP Germany, Fascist Italy, Cuba, etc. were and compare them to Liberal Democratic Western countries like USA, Canada, Britain, Germany, etc. are. And ironically, once corporates gain more, they become less democratic and try to control what narratives are socially acceptable to believe in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    So, in a nutshell, the System’s neatest trick is this:

    - For the sake of its own efficiency and security, the System needs to bring about deep and radical social changes to match the changed conditions resulting from technological progress.

    - The frustration of life under the circumstances imposed by the System leads to rebellious impulses.

    - Rebellious impulses are co-opted by the System in the service of the social changes it requires; activists “rebel” against the old and outmoded values that are no longer of use to the System and in favor of the new values that the System needs us to accept.

    - In this way rebellious impulses, which otherwise might have been dangerous to the System, are given an outlet that is not only harmless to the System, but useful to it.

    - Much of the public resentment resulting from the imposition of social changes is drawn away from the System and its institutions and is directed instead at the radicals who spearhead the social changes.

    Many people do not understand the roots of their own frustration, hence their rebellion is directionless.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/sorceryofth...ted_kaczynski/
    Hmm, Ted Kaczynski's points are always interesting to read. But I can't help but feel he's overestimating the competence of the system. Couldn't this naturally occur as a result of social conditions leading to these actions rather than being the result of the system pulling the strings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by #Oda# View Post
    To be honest, I‘ve never seen a bunch being more obsessed with culture war than on TA. I‘ve never heard the word „woke“ so often in my life before. I‘m entirly tired of reading it.
    We're obsessed with it on Conservative forums like TA cause we're often the receiving end of it elsewhere, especially IRL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    You use ChatGP to educate yourself. What did you prove with that? People ask ChatGP questions and they get answers. You're not Mr. English Grammar. You're just repeating what ChatGP told you. It didn't come from you.
    I THINK IT'S HIGH TIME YOU GREW A PAIR AND ADMIT THAT YOU GOT REKT.

    You tried to use an idiom that I used, but you fucked up because your English is shit. Just deal with it. Your English level is below that of a Turkish high school kid.

    In Turkey, high school kids learn how to use "high time." A high school student in Turkey is assumed to be around B1-B2 level. They are not even in C1 Advanced, but they know how to use "high time" properly, unlike you. I learned it in high school as well.




    Go use Google Translate to learn what "lise" means in English. I have taken it from a website in Turkey where students get help with their homework.

    Dude, your Chat GPT claim is pure comedy. No one learns English from an AI in one day. I have been taught English since I was around nine. For your information, English is taught as a foreign language in many countries. I don't need Chat GPT to write posts in English or learn grammar. You don't have to worry about my writing and reading skills, as well as my grammar because I have been taught. This is just a fraction of my books related to English. They were my coursebooks when I was a student.



    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    I feel like a father who has a son coming at him constantly trying to prove himself in his dad's eyes because dad was always tough on him.

    "Look at me, Dad! I'm not retarded like you think! Fuck you, dad! I'll show you!"

    Seriously, fuck off already.
    It's literally the other way around. I feel like a daddy who beat up his little kid in a chess game, but my kid doesn't give up and in every instance tries to win against me just for one time.

    First, out of nowhere, you attacked me and failed. It was a discussion between me and Petalpusher. It didn't include you in the first place.




    Then you opened up the topic again, but your defeat was sealed long ago.





    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    More dishonesty and projection. Yesterday, I made a handful of posts. Your name didn't appear at the bottom. Not long after I posted I'd refresh and guess whose name was there? Yours. I told you this and now you're spitting it back at me with the roles reversed.

    That you switch the roles is you admitting what you did is weird and obsessive. You sit there and think about that.
    You are a broken, sad man. I don't follow you around, but you follow me around and shout at me.



    First debate, I won and I even have a hard evidence for it.




    In the second debate, you couldn't refute my argument, "Ireland seems to have a racism and xenophobia problem to some extent." You chimped out, then scurried away.

    Third debate. I claimed that Iran is not going to do serious shit you opposed and said I'm not the guy to go on current events, but it came true. Just look at Israeli casulties.

    1 Israeli civilian critically injured by shrapnel;[7] 31 others treated for minor injuries or anxiety

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kess View Post
    I THINK IT'S HIGH TIME YOU GREW A PAIR AND ADMIT THAT YOU GOT REKT.

    You tried to use an idiom that I used, but you fucked up because your English is shit. Just deal with it. Your English level is below that of a Turkish high school kid.

    In Turkey, high school kids learn how to use "high time." A high school student in Turkey is assumed to be around B1-B2 level. They are not even in C1 Advanced, but they know how to use "high time" properly, unlike you. I learned it in high school as well.




    Go use Google Translate to learn what "lise" means in English. I have taken it from a website in Turkey where students get help with their homework.

    Dude, your Chat GPT claim is pure comedy. No one learns English from an AI in one day. I have been taught English since I was around nine. For your information, English is taught as a foreign language in many countries. I don't need Chat GPT to write posts in English or learn grammar. You don't have to worry about my writing and reading skills, as well as my grammar because I have been taught. This is just a fraction of my books related to English. They were my coursebooks when I was a student.





    It's literally the other way around. I feel like a daddy who beat up his little kid in a chess game, but my kid doesn't give up and in every instance tries to win against me just for one time.

    First, out of nowhere, you attacked me and failed. It was a discussion between me and Petalpusher. It didn't include you in the first place.




    Then you opened up the topic again, but your defeat was sealed long ago.







    You are a broken, sad man. I don't follow you around, but you follow me around and shout at me.



    First debate, I won and I even have a hard evidence for it.




    In the second debate, you couldn't refute my argument, "Ireland seems to have a racism and xenophobia problem to some extent." You chimped out, then scurried away.

    Third debate. I claimed that Iran is not going to do serious shit you opposed and said I'm not the guy to go on current events, but it came true. Just look at Israeli casulties.
    No one read your post. No one cares about your obsession with me (including me).

    You look like a lunatic, which you are.

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