Albanian Y-DNA Project

[Illyrius]

Welcome to the West Asian race.

Is R1b Z2103 really of West Asian origin?

[chinshen]

Is R1b Z2103 really of West Asian origin?

Yes it is. I am R1b Z2103.

[Illyrius]

Yes it is. I am R1b Z2103.

What about my R1b U152?

EV13?

[chinshen]

What about my R1b U152?

EV13?

Sorry, I don't really know much about neither R1b U152 nor EV13.

[Pine]

What about my R1b U152?

EV13?

R-Z2103, while Indo-European, entered and diversified in West Asia very early. This isn't true for R-U152 or E-V13.

If you want to get more granular:

In E-V13, there are a couple subclades that have been in the Middle East from BC times and are likely from Ancient Greek migration. There are seemingly divergent MENAs in U152, but I'd like to have firm evidence that they are in fact divergent; their nearby European relatives may simply be missing from the tree I'm looking at. On the other hand, there are Europeans inside MENA clades, who descend from Jews, Phoenicians, MENA Romans, etc.

[Rizza]

New samples from Rrenjet project, posted by Bruzmi from Anthrogenica

E-V13:
Tiranë: E-V13
Skrapar, Berat: E-V13>FGC44169>FGC57496
Fier: E-V13>FGC44169>FGC57496>Y138054
Sarandë, Vlorë: E-V13>CTS9320>Z25461>BY204029
Berishë, Vushtrri, Mitrovicë: E-V13>FGC33625>Y93102
Berishë, Drenas, Prishtinë: E-V13>FGC33625>Y93102
Hot, Tuz: E-V13>FGC11450>Y146086>Y140828
Tepelenë, Gjirokastër: E-V13>FGC11450>Y146086>Y140828
Gjirokastër: E-V13>FGC11450>Y146086>Y140828
Vlorë: E-V13>FGC11450>Y146086>Y140828>Y127731
Vlorë: E-V13>L241>BY5500>A7065>BY5604>BY5607
Gash, Skënderaj, Mitrovicë: E-V13>L241>BY5617>PH2180
Berishë/Kuqe, Skënderaj, Mitrovicë: E-V13>L241>BY5617>PH2180
Berishë, Shtime, Ferizaj: E-V13>L241>BY5617>PH2180>Y30588
Thaç, Kaçanik, Ferizaj: E-V13>L241>BY5617>PH2180>Y30588
Gash, Deçan, Gjakovë: E-V13>L241>BY5617>PH2180>Y230798
Kukës: E-V13>L241>BY5617>PH2180>Y192194
Shkodër: E-V13>L241>BY5617>PH2180>FT176420>FT232287

R-M269:
Mat, Dibër: R1b-M269> PF7563>Z29758
Vlorë: R1b-M269>L51>U152>L2>FGC38722>FT415660
Gjirokastër: R1b-M269>BY611>Z2705>Y177765
Dibër, Rajoni jugp.: R1b-M269>BY611>Z2705>Y32147
Elbasan: R1b-M269>BY611>Z2705>Y32147>Y126039
Thaç, Viti, Gjilan: R1b-M269>BY611>Z2705>Y32147>Y133365

J-L283:
Vlorë: J2b-L283>Z638>Y21045>PH1751
Librazhd, Elbasan: J2b-L283>Z638>Y21045>PH1751>Y290702
Mat, Dibër: J2b-L283>Z638>Y21045>PH1751>Y67581
Deçan, Gjakovë: J2b-L283>Z638>Y21045>PH1751>Y52453
Triesh, Tuz: J2b-L283>Z638>Y21878>FT124983
Hot, Malësi e Madhe, Shkodër: J2b-L283>Z638>Y21878>FT124983
Shkodër: J2b-L283>Z638>Y21878>FT124983
Dibër: J2b-L283>Z638>Z631>Z1043>Y22894

J-M410
Vlorë: J2a-M410>M67>Z1847>SK1337
Vlorë: J2a-M410>L26>PF5087>FGC16096>Z40068
Vlorë: J2a-M410>PF5160>L24>L25>Z387>Y197827
Vlorë: J2a-M410>PF5160>L24>L25>Z387>Y197827
Vlorë: J2a-M410>PF5160>L24>L25>Z387>L70>Y24651

J-P58
Vlorë: J1-M267>P58>FGC12816>FT196614>Y126139
Vlorë: J1-M267>P58>FGC12816>FT196614>Y126139

I-M223
Filat, Çamëri: I2a-M223>L701>S25733>PH2670>Y214083
Pogradec, Korçë: I2a-M223>L801>Y3249>CTS6433

I-P37
Vlorë: I2a-P37>CTS595>L160>PF4422>PF4459
Dollnen, Pellagoni: I2a-P37>Y3120>Z17855>FT173833
Prizren: I2a-P37>Y3120>Z17855>Y12341
Mat, Dibër: I2a-P37>Y3120>Z17855>Y12341
Librazhd, Elbasan: I2a-P37>Y3120>Z17855>Y12341
Shkodër: I2a-P37>Y3120>PH908

I-L38
Ulqin: I2a-M436>S2555>L38>BY14026

R-M417
Kastrat, Ferizaj: R1a-M417>M458>L260>Y2905
Mallakastër, Fier: R1a-M417>M458>L1029>YP417>BY30629

T-M70
Vlorë: T1a-M70>L131>CTS933>FGC47678>Y206597

[Pepa]

I am E-V13>Z5018>S2979>Y3183>S2972>BY5423

[Pepa]

stop saying Nigga, it is Vulgar af. only black people say nigga and for you saying nigga, you would be beaten up.

Nigga

[Dukaginzade]

Will this thread be continued?

[MandM]

Will this thread be continued?

If you have new sampels why not? Keep it alive the more sampels we all can muster from all the balkan countries, is a step closer to better know all of our ancestors