Fusion of Gypsies and Hungarians. Caste system in Hungary. Dark pigmentation = masculine ?

[Mortimer]

Here you have "locals/slavs only" when people rent flats (it means they would reject uzbeks/tajiks by default), also now they're banned from driving taxis, but before there was a massive occurence, when people would cancel a drive if they get some "Khabibullo Medjidov" as driver and switching until they get Russian/Slavic name. This segregation didn't apply to Tatars and other Russian minorities, I'd even say those minorities did it more massive and consciously against uzbeks/tajiks in own regions.

I have a neighbor now, a road worker from Ufa, Bashkiria, he's renting a flat, but he had an option to move to some type of dorm paid by company, in the end he didn't, I asked him what happened and he was like "no way I live between smelly uzbeks"

I avoid their services, too. Thankfully, in 2023-24 most of regions banned foreigners from majority of jobs, now there's an exodus. But there are already enough of those who got citizenship including illegal way, some of them get their citizenship cancelled, but still lots of them here. I hope all of them are gone in few years.

Most of them would be denied by face control in clubs, restaraunts, as well etc Face control guys may be some Dagestanis. So it's not "ethnic Russian racism" but nationwide cancelling and segregation of Central Asians.

Are you joking? Its East Europe, not the woke West. There are segregated schools only for whites, there are clubs, pubs where you cant go if your gypsy. Its pretty normal.

It was in Austria similar when I grew up but not specifically only for gypsies, in the 90s there werent that many Gypsies here in Upper austria but generally in newspapers it would say "only native or only locals" when they rent apartments, and i was not allowed in some pubs and nightclubs. But I think now its much less. Not sure if it still would be allowed to write "only locals".

[Blondie]

Btw, mixed Hungarian-Jewish people don't look really exotic, don't they?

Jews are not same, there are brown skinned jews, others look very white. Millions of jew lived in Hungary and basically almos only the rural jews were deported during the Holocaust not the budapesters, thats why the local jewish community is very huge. And these jews have been affected by magyarization as well, even the transylvanian or slovakian jews were hungarian speakers.

Hungary is very pro-Jewish politically these days, why would anyone hide? Hungary is one of rare European countries that voted against recognition of Palestine in UN recently.

Just because Orban and the government is pro-jewish (for political reasons) it does not mean that the hungarian society likes them. Antisemitism is significant in Hungary. This number what i mentioned in the case of Budapest (100 thousand jew) is just minimum estimate, the maximal is 200 thousand. To be honest nobody knows, because 1. majority of them hides it, or 2. tons of jew know nothing about their ancestry so they dont know what they are, because their parents did not tell it. In the 2000' years there was an ultra-fascist guy "Csanád Szegedi", he was very antisemitic, his parents raised him as hungarian patriot and later Csanád discovered that his whole family is jewish and his parents lied him about the background of the family.

Do you deny integrated or mixed Gypsies avoid declaring as Gypsies?

Dont get me wrong, obviously most of these brownies are half gypsies, but not necessarily, especially not in Budapest. This mixing exist of course but Universe significantly overestimate it. What Varda said about the relationship of serbs and gypsies its also true in the case of Hungary.

[Mortimer]

Dont get me wrong, obviously most of these brownies are half gypsies, but not necessarily, especially not in Budapest. This mixing exist of course but Universe significantly overestimate it. What Varda said about the relationship of serbs and gypsies its also true in the case of Hungary.

Obviously its not common or more common then gypsy-gypsy relationships im sure, depends also where in some villages in serbia you cannot even exist if you are gypsy, as neighbour, but its different in novi becej where im from.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novi_Be%C4%8Dej

[Blondie]

Obviously its not common or more common then gypsy-gypsy relationships im sure, depends also where in some villages in serbia you cannot even exist if you are gypsy, as neighbour, but its different in novi becej where im from.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novi_Be%C4%8Dej

Everytime when im talking with rural hungarians all of them says there are huge ethnic conflicts between gypsies and hungarians in the mixed areas. They hate each other. Although low class hungarians sometimes mixing with gypsies, but at same time low class hungarians are the most racist towards gypsies and they are voting for nationalist parties like Mi Hazánk. This party and Jobbik were most popular in these regions because of their anti-gypsy rethoric and their vote base is these low class hungarians. Its not true what Universe claims that this both group love and mixing with each other, and these hibryds will be the next generation, thats a complete bullshit. In fact the high class persons are far less racist, because they live in 100% white areas without any real experience with gypsies.

[Mortimer]

Everytime when im talking with rural hungarians all of them says there are huge ethnic conflicts between gypsies and hungarians in the mixed areas. They hate each other. Although low class hungarians sometimes mixing with gypsies, but at same time low class hungarians are the most racist towards gypsies and they are voting for nationalist parties like Mi Hazánk. This party and Jobbik were most popular in these regions because of their anti-gypsy rethoric and their vote base is these low class hungarians. Its not true what Universe claims that this both group love and mixing with each other, and these hibryds will be the next generation, thats a complete bullshit. In fact the high class persons are far less racist, because they live in 100% white areas without any real experience with gypsies.

I think he exaggerated, i dont think thats true what he said, i dont know why he said it, we have to ask him. They "dont love mixing with eatch other".

[Incal]

Here you have "locals/slavs only" when people rent flats (it means they would reject uzbeks/tajiks by default), also now they're banned from driving taxis, but before there was a massive occurence, when people would cancel a drive if they get some "Khabibullo Medjidov" as driver and switching until they get Russian/Slavic name. This segregation didn't apply to Tatars and other Russian minorities, I'd even say those minorities did it more massive and consciously against uzbeks/tajiks in own regions.

Are they problematic/criminal?

[MrCuriosity]

I want to retract or revise some of my first post on this thread. It is not just the ugly and desperate or the sluts and prostitutes who mix with Gypsies. Maybe they love each other and it's a lot of normal (mostly lower class)Romanians who mix with Gypsies. But I still think it is not that common.

[Victor]

Are they problematic/criminal?

Sure. They're not educated, prone to crimes, perverted, violent, they became a target of islamic indoctrination, too. The lowest people you can imagine.

Turkey stopped visa free regime with Tajiks recently, for example.

[Varda]

Everytime when im talking with rural hungarians all of them says there are huge ethnic conflicts between gypsies and hungarians in the mixed areas. They hate each other. Although low class hungarians sometimes mixing with gypsies, but at same time low class hungarians are the most racist towards gypsies and they are voting for nationalist parties like Mi Hazánk. This party and Jobbik were most popular in these regions because of their anti-gypsy rethoric and their vote base is these low class hungarians. Its not true what Universe claims that this both group love and mixing with each other, and these hibryds will be the next generation, thats a complete bullshit. In fact the high class persons are far less racist, because they live in 100% white areas without any real experience with gypsies.

Tensions and hatred between Hungarians and Gypsies in Hungary seems to be similar as between Macedonians and Albanians in NM https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012...thnic_violence

[Blondie]

I think he exaggerated, i dont think thats true what he said, i dont know why he said it, we have to ask him. They "dont love mixing with eatch other".

A civil war is more possible between gypsies and whites than peaceful race mixing.