Illyrians and Vlachs wannabe as narative of young Montenegrin nation

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Romanians are descendants of Roman citizens, whether from the Italic peninsula or not, and we have kept the Roman ethnic identity for over a millennia. LARPing as a Scythian from the steppes is something more akin to an identity crisis.

Romanians are descendants of local Balkan people, Celts, Slavs, Scythians and Sarmatians. The only Dacian samples we have are listed as Scythian because they were buried as Scythians. We did not keep a "Roman ethnic identity", we kept a romance language. Grigore Ureche was the first to state that we're probably from Rome because we speak a romance language. We were Muntean and Moldovan/Moldovean. Rumîn meant serf and Varlaam Motoc was the first to use the title Romanian language, in 1643. Even so, people kept saying Moldovenească and Muntenească until the 1800's.

You should be reminded that the intellectuals who created the Romanian nationality were close to calling our country Dacia and ourselves Dacians.

If I would LARP as a Scythian, I would be fully entitled to do so, because they were part of this land and clearly had peaceful relations with Dacians. Romans conquered, destroyed, colonized, stole, and then fucked off in 200 years. Why should I larp as a people that simply used this land? I don't see Algerians thinking they're French just because they speak it, and they probably have more French DNA than we do Roman.

Not to mention that our YDNA and MtDNA lineages are clearly East and SE European, we hold no relation to the Roman empire apart from language.

[Daco Celtic]

Montenegrins want to be Vlachs.

Serbs want to be Russians.

Romanians want to be Romans.

The Balkans are living a perpetual identity crisis, rofl.

As far as the Romanian association with Rome, I think that stems from the fact Romanians prefer a Latin, western influence over Slavic influence, so the desire to connect with Rome isn't surprising. Seems like Romanians are more open to western or southern European influence than most Balkan countries. I actually prefer a Dacian association since the Roman occupation was short lived and had a limited genetic impact.

[Pribislav]

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Ovaj đetić je tvoj istomišljenik http://www.forum.hr/showpost.php?p=7...postcount=1158

[Bosniensis]

Ovaj đetić je tvoj istomišljenik http://www.forum.hr/showpost.php?p=7...postcount=1158

Pametan čovjek, vrlo ozbiljna teorija a ne deretićevo lupanje gluposti. Deretić svojim glupostima ismijava jednu ozbiljnu teoriju i stvara kontra efekat.

Ali džaba deretići, džaba svima sve kad će nauka i vrijeme otkriti sve.

[Mingle]

Montenegrins and Bosniaks wannabe Illyro-Vlachs, and North Macedonians wannabe ancient Macedonians. Many Bulgarian claim Thracian origin, some of them even Turkic origin. Croatians have various theories of non-Slavic origin. Western Ukrainians wannabe Celts. Czechs and Slovenians tend to identify themselves culturally with Germans, but they don't claim they are Germanic.
Slavs/Slavic speakers often have a problem with identity, especially Balkan ones.

Also, many non-Slavic groups in Eastern Europe get really offended if you mention they have a little Slavic ancestry and dislike being associated with Slavs. The reason is because Slavs in Europe are associated with backwardness/barbarism relative to other European groups.

[Mingle]

Rumîn meant serf

Source on this?

If I would LARP as a Scythian, I would be fully entitled to do so, because they were part of this land and clearly had peaceful relations with Dacians. Romans conquered, destroyed, colonized, stole, and then fucked off in 200 years. Why should I larp as a people that simply used this land? I don't see Algerians thinking they're French just because they speak it, and they probably have more French DNA than we do Roman.

I'd say Algerians calling themselves Arab is more similar to Romanians calling themselves Roman.

[Aspirin]

Source on this?

A generic name for serfs was șerb (from Latin servus, "slave", cognate with serf), but they also had some regional names: vecini in Moldavia (in today's language meaning "neighbour") and rumâni in Wallachia.

Romanian

Alternative forms:
rumân, rumîn (obsolete)

Etymology:
From a "re-Latinization" of an earlier form rumân or rumîn (although this form would have been mostly represented in Cyrillic at the time it was used), itself inherited from Latin rōmānus. The older form rumân also meant peasant, or a serf who worked the land (in feudal medieval Wallachia). In popular speech, it also has the meaning of a husband or man in general, but this is now archaic. Doublet of roman, a later borrowing.

[Bosniensis]

Romanians are descendants of Roman citizens, whether from the Italic peninsula or not, and we have kept the Roman ethnic identity for over a millennia. LARPing as a Scythian from the steppes is something more akin to an identity crisis.

A small village in Sinai (Egypt) that has been settled by Justinian who are "Guardians of St. Catharina Monastery" said: "We are Vlachs from Romania, and we are always happy to meet new people from Romania who visit us", they are there for 1500 years.

According to Pan-Slavists they are insane too.

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1844 A.D Vlachs Romania

[Pribislav]

A small village in Sinai (Egypt) that has been settled by Justinian who are "Guardians of St. Catharina Monastery" said: "We are Vlachs from Romania, and we are always happy to meet new people from Romania who visit us", they are there for 1500 years.

According to Pan-Slavists they are insane too.

When you mentioned Sinai, here is something Serbian related https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbonian_Bog

According to Serbian autochtonists Serbs got name by bog (god) Serbon.

[Bosniensis]

When you mentioned Sinai, here is something Serbian related https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbonian_Bog

According to Serbian autochtonists Serbs got name by bog (god) Serbon.

Serbian autochtonists should look up to Romanian Historians. Serbian autochtonists need to take small steps first not to discuss crazy stuff like that which will never be proven anyway.

Discussions about things like that are marginalizing the work of REAL Serbian Autochtonists and Historians and are made to ridicule them.

Jovan Deretić is ridiculing Serbian history and marginalizing the work of real Serbian autochtonists.