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    Quote Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis View Post
    Tell it to the Turks, they are convinced their overlap with Greek islanders, Sicilians, and even Central Greeks is a sign of their Turanism.
    Pontians are Hellenized people, but given the "Balkan" score, I take it Anatolian Greeks have authentic Greek ancestry from the mainland, and the same MENA levels as islanders and Sicilians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Pontians are Hellenized people, but given the "Balkan" score, I take it Anatolian Greeks have authentic Greek ancestry from the mainland, and the same MENA levels as islanders and Sicilians.

    Well, these guys ( Turks) should be matching with Laz and Georgians not with " Greek" and " Central Greek" and " Sicilian" and " Ashkenazi" then, if it's just ancient " hellenised" Anatolian coming up, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis View Post
    Well, these guys ( Turks) should be matching with Laz and Georgians not with " Greek" and " Central Greek" and " Sicilian" and " Ashkenazi" then, if it's just ancient " hellenised" Anatolian coming up, no?
    I'm unsure what you mean? To me it suggests those Turks have Greek ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Ok here are 2 new ones.




    And here is an Anatolian Greek whose family moved from Istanbul to Greece, now from Thessaloniki.


    Wow very interesting


    Do you have more from Con/pole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casandrinos View Post
    Wow very interesting


    Do you have more from Con/pole?
    I have some mixed Pontian and northern Greek people. They plot in that northeastern shifted position. I have one from Istanbul who has 9% MENA and a mix of Italian and Balkan.

    So my question is this. Who do you think Sicilians are genetically then given how they compare to these Greeks? Why would they plot how they do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    I have some mixed Pontian and northern Greek people. They plot in that northeastern shifted position. I have one from Istanbul who has 9% MENA and a mix of Italian and Balkan.

    So my question is this. Who do you think Sicilians are genetically then given how they compare to these Greeks? Why would they plot how they do?

    Interesting post them if you want.

    I didnt get the first question As for the last I don't really know. I guess Neolithic genes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casandrinos View Post
    Interesting post them if you want.

    I didnt get the first question As for the last I don't really know. I guess Neolithic genes.
    I guess I'd ask, which Greeks seem most similar to them genetically? Cretans were the choice I originally went with, but looking now, the other islands seem closer and Cretans seem more Caucasian-like. There is no viable comparison between Sicilians and mainland Greeks genetically IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    I guess I'd ask, which Greeks seem most similar to them genetically? Cretans were the choice I originally went with, but looking now, the other islands seem closer and Cretans seem more Caucasian-like. There is no viable comparison between Sicilians and mainland Greeks genetically IMO.

    Whoever gets more matches from S Italy is closest, simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casandrinos View Post
    Whoever gets more matches from S Italy is closest, simple
    I don't know. But I mean total autosomal ancestry. Mainland Greeks I have seen (and I made a list somewhere) get Greece, Bulgaria, Albania, Italy, Poland, Romania, Russia most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    I don't know. But I mean total autosomal ancestry. Mainland Greeks I have seen (and I made a list somewhere) get Greece, Bulgaria, Albania, Italy, Poland, Romania, Russia most.
    Almost all Greeks seem to get similar shares varying more to the individual if this is trustful,plotting seems to differ.

    "Mainlanders"/Northern-plotting Greeks plot North-West in comparison to Southern-plotting Greeks.

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