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    Brown Brazilians have pred. European ancestry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berahthraban View Post
    The Sicilian samples may be many, but I doubt the same thing about Jordanians. I'm not by any means convinced, but if it is correct, it might only be for Northern Jordanians, or what not. If you get my notion. If the diversity inside Jordania is big, but isn't caught up by gedmatch due to low samples, we can't make such conclusions.
    The large majority of "Jordanian" samples are Palestinian. Approximately 50-55% of Jordan's population is of Palestinian descent (located almost exclusively in the capital Amman), so Sikeliot's point should be changed to: "...closer to Palestinians..."

    Native Jordanians are a Levantine/East Med-shifted Bedouin population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomguy1235 View Post
    The large majority of "Jordanian" samples are Palestinian. Approximately 50-55% of Jordan's population is of Palestinian descent (located almost exclusively in the capital Amman), so Sikeliot's point should be changed to: "...closer to Palestinians..."

    Native Jordanians are a Levantine/East Med-shifted Bedouin population.
    If so then that's a great point

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomguy1235 View Post
    The large majority of "Jordanian" samples are Palestinian. Approximately 50-55% of Jordan's population is of Palestinian descent (located almost exclusively in the capital Amman), so Sikeliot's point should be changed to: "...closer to Palestinians..."

    Native Jordanians are a Levantine/East Med-shifted Bedouin population.
    That's kind of confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etain View Post
    That's kind of confusing.
    What point exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomguy1235 View Post
    What point exactly?
    I understand what you're saying, but it's just difficult to wrap my head around. Basically, it would mean Jordanians aren't really a people.

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    LOL you just discovered the thing about Jordanians like 20 minutes ago and got happier than a 5 year old on roller blades with an ice cream cone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berahthraban View Post
    The Sicilian samples may be many, but I doubt the same thing about Jordanians. I'm not by any means convinced, but if it is correct, it might only be for Northern Jordanians, or what not. If you get my notion. If the diversity inside Jordania is big, but isn't caught up by gedmatch due to low samples, we can't make such conclusions.
    There is a significant internal variability among Sicilians. Then a lot depends on the type of calculator.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Oracles on GEDmatch are the way I determined this, with nearly 100 results all coming out the same way. Bulgarians may occasionally appear before Jordanians, but Iberians almost never do.
    Almost. This is a Sicilian.


    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Italian_Abruzzo 4.41
    2 West_Sicilian 6.37
    3 South_Italian 7.37
    4 Central_Greek 7.39
    5 East_Sicilian 7.93
    6 Tuscan 9.55
    7 Greek_Thessaly 11.18
    8 Ashkenazi 12.57
    9 Sephardic_Jewish 13.17
    10 Italian_Jewish 13.95
    11 Algerian_Jewish 14.59
    12 North_Italian 14.82
    13 Tunisian_Jewish 17.72
    14 Bulgarian 18.24
    15 Libyan_Jewish 18.39
    16 Romanian 19.55
    17 Cyprian 20.22
    18 Turkish 20.93
    19 Spanish_Extremadura 21.89
    20 Spanish_Andalucia 22.26

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    During the crusades, Franks and Normans took over what is now known today as Lebanon ( back then Antioch ) and left their seed inside the local women to gift continuing generations of Arabs with European genetics

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Markham View Post
    During the crusades, Franks and Normans took over what is now known today as Lebanon ( back then Antioch ) and left their seed inside the local women to gift continuing generations of Arabs with European genetics
    1) Less than 2% Norman in Muslim Leb populations =/= lasting genetic legacy

    2) Lebanese are not/never were Arabs. They're "Arabs" in linguistics only.

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