Hugo Chavez and Bolivarian Revolution-Richard Gott

[Partizan]

http://books.google.com.tr/books?id=...page&q&f=false

I reccomend you to read this book,if you're interested on 21.th Century Socialism and Third Worldism...

This book taught me,leaders like Atatürk,Chavez and Nasser are just same persons of different nationalities.

[Pallantides]

Hugo Chavez looks like a turd, I mean he really looks like someone molded a human out of poop.

[Incal]

Hugo Chavez looks like a turd, I mean he really looks like someone molded a human out of poop.

Both outside and inside.

[Han Cholo]

Chavez is overly satanized, it's clear he has done good things but no president that wants to stay forever can be good.

I prefer Uruguayan, Brazilian or Chilean kind of socialism than Venezuela's backward reactionary ideology.

[Partizan]

Chavez is overly satanized, it's clear he has done good things but no president that wants to stay forever can be good.

I prefer Uruguayan, Brazilian or Chilean kind of socialism than Venezuela's backward reactionary ideology.

Finally some reasonable comment

Well,Chavez is being more and more authoritarian I agree,however it seems he is really serious about a Latin American union against the USA.However unfortunately most of other Latin American leaders don't agree with his sharp anti-imperialism as I see.

He seems like a strong leader,the USA and some European states(especially Spain) tried to overthrow him with a coup,whereas Chavez isn't like Alvarado or Allende...

What I like in him is,he made an original synthesis of Venezuelan/Latin American patriotism with Socialism.He is rather similar to Nasser and Atatürk as Richard Gott stated in his book.I smell some Tito too

[Han Cholo]

Finally some reasonable comment

Well,Chavez is being more and more authoritarian I agree,however it seems he is really serious about a Latin American union against the USA.However unfortunately most of other Latin American leaders don't agree with his sharp anti-imperialism as I see.

He seems like a strong leader,the USA and some European states(especially Spain) tried to overthrow him with a coup,whereas Chavez isn't like Alvarado or Allende...

What I like in him is,he made an original synthesis of Venezuelan/Latin American patriotism with Socialism.He is rather similar to Nasser and Atatürk as Richard Gott stated in his book.I smell some Tito too

Lamentably he's rather similar in the negative things rather than positive. I voted for socialist candidate in Mexico Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador. He was constantly accused of being supported by Hugo Chavez and even funded by him, but none of it was true.

However Mexico election was a fraud as it was won by the longstanding PRI (Enrique Peña Nieto) party, and I've been to several marches that support his overthrow. AMLO supports a more futurist socialism. However, it wasn't his socialist policies that made me vote for him (I actually find it somehow negative). What convinced me to vote for him was his MEDIA and Energy reforms.

Mexico is dominated by Televisa and similar big chains which only stupidize people with soap operas and dumb stuff like that. Also, our oil is being processed on foreign refineries and then re-sold to us at a inflated price. AMLO proposed created 7 refineries during his government. He also proposed legalization of certain drugs.


On Venezuela, member Black Sun's Dimension (who is from Venezuela) could explain you.

[Partizan]

Lamentably he's rather similar in the negative things rather than positive. I voted for socialist candidate in Mexico Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador. He was constantly accused of being supported by Hugo Chavez and even funded by him, but none of it was true.

However Mexico election was a fraud as it was won by the longstanding PRI party, and I've been to several marches that support his overthrow. AMLO supports a more futurist socialism. However, it wasn't his socialist policies that made me vote for him (I actually find it somehow negative). What convinced me to vote for him was his MEDIA and Energy reforms.

Mexico is dominated by Televisa and similar big chains which only stupidize people with soap operas and dumb stuff like that. Also, our oil is being processed on foreign refineries and then re-sold to us at a inflated price. AMLO proposed created 7 refineries during his government. He also proposed legalization of certain drugs.


On Venezuela, member Black Sun's Dimension (who is from Venezuela) could explain you.

This stuff about oil refineries is really bitter...However except certain states,it's a truth of Latin America.

Have you ever read "Open Veins of Latin America" of Eduardo Galeano BTW?Except for Venezuela and some other certain states,nothing changed since 1970's

[Han Cholo]

This stuff about oil refineries is really bitter...However except certain states,it's a truth of Latin America.

Have you ever read "Open Veins of Latin America" of Eduardo Galeano BTW?Except for Venezuela and some other certain states,nothing changed since 1970's :(

Well actually Venezuela is not even one of the most developed Latin American nations. It also has an higher crime and murder rathe than Mexico.

The most developed countries in Latin America are the modern socialist ones, like Chile, Uruguay, Argentina, Costa Rica. not the reactionary extremist ones like Bolivia or Venezuela which are shitholes. Brazil is also developing quite fast.

[Partizan]

Well actually Venezuela is not even one of the most developed Latin American nations. It also has an higher crime and murder rathe than Mexico.

The most developed countries in Latin America are the modern socialist ones, like Chile, Uruguay, Argentina, Costa Rica. not the reactionary extremist ones like Bolivia or Venezuela which are shitholes. Brazil is also developing quite fast.

I know about Kirchner and Lula&Rousseff,however don't really know about other states' politics which you mentioned...

About Venezuela,publications of Chavez give some hope,also his sharp diplomacy...

However I'm not really acknowledged about domestic politics.

[Han Cholo]

Check my other thread where I compare statistics of all Latin American nations:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56050