Serbs are.... results of genetic testing

[RandoBloom]

http://www.bosanski-nacionalisti.org/uploads/1/2/0/5/12052709/586208584.jpg

[Ibericus]

This is outdated genetics, lol it's from year 2000.

[RandoBloom]

This is outdated genetics, lol it's from year 2000.

Genetics are genetics. Is there newer results that you can put on the table?
Or does it have more to do with Moorish genes in Portugese ?

[Kastrioti1443]

I do not understand it, can you explain it in a few words?

[dralos]

I do not understand it, can you explain it in a few words?
it says closest to serbs are bulgarians and then turks,armenians... and most common type is the anatolian type i guess somekind of turanid and then dinaric and then slavic only really common in vojvodina and croats are closer to germans but also corsicans

[Ibericus]

Genetics are genetics. Is there newer results that you can put on the table?
Or does it have more to do with Moorish genes in Portugese ?
No, things have changed a lot since then. For example they talk about "Sardinians being close to Croats" but today we know that haplogorup I2 is divided between the South-Slavic branch and the Ibero-Sardinian branch. Also today we have Autosomal dna analyiss, )genome-wide, not just haplogorup markers) back then in 2000 we didn't or it was very limited.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Bosniaks have more Turkish markers than Serbs, especially those from Sarajevo and Mostar ;)

[RandoBloom]

I do not understand it, can you explain it in a few words?

Serbs are 49% Turkish, and 13% arab. Or 49% of Serbs.

[Liac]

Nice thread, I like it. There's one typical Afro-Asiatic Serb Dušan Basta for example.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/236/bastaxu5.jpg

[Stefan_Dusan]

Serbs are 49% Turkish, and 13% arab. Or 49% of Serbs.

That's very funny because my 23andMe shows 0% out of Europe. Not even 0.1% out of Europe. Not even <0.1% out of Europe as I seen profiles have. So how is that possible? Or maybe your dumbass doesn't know how to read study ;)

[RandoBloom]

Nice thread, I like it. There's one typical Afro-Asiatic Serb Dušan Basta for example.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/236/bastaxu5.jpg
49+13 = 62
So there is 38% of Non turkish Serbs. Some are bound to be descendant from someone else :D

[RandoBloom]

That's very funny because my 23andMe shows 0% out of Europe. Not even 0.1% out of Europe. Not even <0.1% out of Europe as I seen profiles have. So how is that possible? Or maybe your dumbass doesn't know how to read study ;)

49+13= 62%
38% is non turkish :D
Relax

[Black Wolf]

Serbs are essentially a mix of old Paleo-Balkan peoples and Slavs when it comes to genetics. Y-DNA haplogroups, mtDNA and autosomal DNA all seem to support this.

[Vukodav]

This is outdated genetics, lol it's from year 2000.


Hrulj always surprise us with groundbreaking and up to date discoveries...

[Hevo]

Ahh, the comedian strikes again.:laugh:

[armenianbodyhair]

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz200/YandereBlock/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps7a761f26.jpg

[Liac]

Hrulj google 24/7 only so that he can find all genetic researches which would make him able to claim how Serbs have SSA, Afro-Asiatic, Mongolic and Semitic genes.

[Vukodav]

Hrulj google 24/7 only so that he can find all genetic researches which would make him able to claim how Serbs have SSA, Afro-Asiatic, Mongolic and Semitic genes.
yeah, someone would call that obsession, but I think he is just dedicated and needs some reason to live, something to keep him going.

[Liac]

yeah, someone would call that obsession, but I think he is just dedicated and needs some reason to live, something to keep him going.

His life have only one purpose and that's to insult Serbs on internet boards.

[Hoca]

If I compare Serbians to Bosniaks, I have seen a lot of Serbians who look exactly Turkish but it turns out they are "Serbian". Bosniaks on the other hand look full European. I never met a Bosniak who looked Turkish. I think this has to do with Ottoman policy. Ottoman officials were allowed to "take" Christian girls for their pleasure and after that a baby popped out and they became Serbian.

[Stefan_Dusan]

If I compare Serbians to Bosniaks, I have seen a lot of Serbians who look exactly Turkish but it turns out they are "Serbian". Bosniaks on the other hand look full European. I never met a Bosniak who looked Turkish. I think this has to do with Ottoman policy. Ottoman officials were allowed to "take" Christian girls for their pleasure and after that a baby popped out and they became Serbian.

Those are myths, a Muslim father would only want his children to be Muslim. So that bastard child of a whore would become a Turk, probably some of your descendents are from those whores ;)

[Lena]

If you spend so much time on the web you won't meet anyone, Hoca, let alone a Serb. Hehehe!

[Hoca]

Those are myths, a Muslim father would only want his children to be Muslim. So that bastard child of a whore would become a Turk, probably some of your descendents are from those whores ;)

Use your logic, would you raise a child from a girl you just had pleasure with? Ottoman officals were allowed to have fun with Christian girls. Guess what? Babby gonna pop out and he/she is going to become a Serb. That is historical truth. Just look in the mirror haha :p. Bosniaks didn't have this because they became Muslim and Ottoman officials weren't allowed to touch them. This is the truth. Sorry.


If you spend so much time on the web you won't meet anyone, Hoca, let alone a Serb. Hehehe!

I have exam week. I have been inside 24/7 to study but after that we can meet if you want.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Use your logic, would you raise a child from a girl you just had pleasure with? Ottoman officals were allowed to have fun with Christian girls. Guess what? Babby gonna pop out and he/she is going to become a Serb. That is historical truth. Just look in the mirror haha :p. Bosniaks didn't have this because they became Muslim and Ottoman officials weren't allowed to touch them. This is the truth. Sorry.

I'm 100% European my Turk friend but you are a product of desperate Circassians selling their 12 year old daughters to Turks to breed blonder Turks. How does it feel to know your grandmother was such a whore and to be used like that?

[Lena]

I have exam week. I have been inside 24/7 to study but after that we can meet if you want.

I don't and pls stop trolling. thx.

[Hoca]

I'm 100% European my Turk friend but you are a product of desperate Circassians selling their 12 year old daughters to Turks to breed blonder Turks. How does it feel to know your grandmother was such a whore and to be used like that?

On what do you base that you are 100% European? Those internet dna sites are bogus and not reliable. They are just to take your money with generalized data to ease insecure people. Just stand in front of a mirror and say you look 100% European, while hold a straight face.. hahahahaah. There is a reason Bosniaks look full-European and Serbs not.


I don't and pls stop trolling. thx.

You know you want to.

[Stefan_Dusan]

On what do you base that you are 100% European? Those internet dna sites are bogus and not reliable. They are just to take your money with generalized data to easy insecure people. Just stand in front of a mirror and say you look 100% European, while hold a straight face.. hahahahaah. There is a reason Bosniaks look full-European and Serbs not.

Genetics are better than looks ;) I fucked a blonde green-eyed Turk, just goes to show you how much it takes for granted. Because half of Turks are descended from the wombs of whores all across the Ottoman empire that makes you bastards of whores.

[Hoca]

Genetics are better than looks ;)
Which genetics? If the data is wrong, those graphs are useless. Just use your eyes and compare the looks and ask yourself why Bosniak look more European than Serbs.


I fucked a blonde green-eyed Turk, just goes to show you how much it takes for granted. Because half of Turks are descended from the wombs of whores all across the Ottoman empire that makes you bastards of whores.
You are bragging about a girl you fucked? 90% of people who brag about being with a girl never have been with one. Anyway, next time I'm going to be with a Serbian girl, I will be sure to wear protection because otherwise a baby gonna pop out and I don't want to bring more Serbs into this world.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Anyway, next time I'm going to be with a Serbian girl, I will be sure to wear protection because otherwise a baby gonna pop out and I don't want to bring more Serbs into this world.

Find me one Serb with Turkish father. It should be easy. I can find many Turks with Serbian mother including sultan. Like I said your nation was born from the wombs of whores. Your mother is probably a whore, how much does she charge?

[Hoca]

Find me one Serb with Turkish father. It should be easy. I can find many Turks with Serbian mother including sultan. Like I said your nation was born from the wombs of whores. Your mother is probably a whore, how much does she charge?
Did you notice you keep insulting me and I don't insult you back? Historically sultans always have fathers and mothers for a reason. Serbians only had mothers, since after she had some fun.. guess what? Baby gonna pop out and after that the Turk would leave and the child would grow up as Serb.

[RandoBloom]

Find me one Serb with Turkish father. It should be easy. I can find many Turks with Serbian mother including sultan. Like I said your nation was born from the wombs of whores. Your mother is probably a whore, how much does she charge?

Why are you so riled up? Dont you know how rights of the first night went on?
Turks pumped up Serbs for 500 years, creating Serbs all over the place. You can thank whores to exist in the first place instead of attacking Hoca for saying the truth

[Methmatician]

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll214/Masenkoe2/gentlemen.png

[Mehmet]

Serbs don't have anything Turanid in them.
I find the allegation senseless.
Serbs do show many Armenoid features though, which has nothing to do with us though.

Serbs, Albanians and Bulgarians look alike.
Croats and Slovenes look rather like Hungarians and Slovaks.
Bosnians look in between these groups.

[Insuperable]

Serbs don't have anything Turanid in them.
I find the allegation senseless.
Serbs do show many Armenoid features though, which has nothing to do with us though.

Serbs, Albanians and Bulgarians look alike.
Croats and Slovenes look rather like Hungarians and Slovaks.
Bosnians look in between these groups.

Croats don't look like Hungarians, Slovakians, Slovenians... They look closer to Balkan people.

[Guapo]

This is an up to date genetic testing

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?94287-Serbs-amp-Bosniaks-Genetic-kinship

[Stefan_Dusan]

Did you notice you keep insulting me and I don't insult you back? Historically sultans always have fathers and mothers for a reason. Serbians only had mothers, since after she had some fun.. guess what? Baby gonna pop out and after that the Turk would leave and the child would grow up as Serb.

No I don't know any Serbian with Turkish father or mother. Perhaps you can find me one figure since this is your claim. It's very easy for me to find Turks with Serb mothers, Albanian mothers, Circassian mothers (you), and whoever mother. It's because your a nation of whores, like honey for bee's you attracted them from every corner of Ottoman empire.

But I give you benefit of doubt, show me one Serbian with Turkish father and I will show you 10 Turks with foreign mothers. And we continue and see who runs out ;)

[Stefan_Dusan]

Why are you so riled up? Dont you know how rights of the first night went on?
Turks pumped up Serbs for 500 years, creating Serbs all over the place. You can thank whores to exist in the first place instead of attacking Hoca for saying the truth

Like I said, all children from Muslim were Muslim. And they ended up in your nation which is Bosnia has more Turkish influence in everything from culture, food, architecture, religion, and blood than Serbs. If you don't believe me prove me wrong.

[Drawing-slim]

Is there much difference between Serbs Croats and Bosnians genetically? because I find it hard to believe.

[blogen]

Is there much difference between Serbs Croats and Bosnians genetically? because I find it hard to believe.

Yes, the Croatians are basically Central Europeans and Slavs, while the Serbians are real Balkanians:

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2203/ipmx.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9430/pilv.jpg
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6709/b8hd.jpg
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5595/wvro.jpg
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/951/cy9s.jpg
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7988/lc05.jpg

[epirot]

Those are myths, a Muslim father would only want his children to be Muslim. So that bastard child of a whore would become a Turk, probably some of your descendents are from those whores ;)

so true.... Turkey is full of balkan blood.. no doubt...

[epirot]

Did you notice you keep insulting me and I don't insult you back? Historically sultans always have fathers and mothers for a reason. Serbians only had mothers, since after she had some fun.. guess what? Baby gonna pop out and after that the Turk would leave and the child would grow up as Serb.

of course you insult... accusing someone to look like a turk is the biggest insult...

now back to Japan/China wherever you came from..

[Drawing-slim]

accusing someone to look like a turk is the biggest insult..despite the comically tragic fact of a Turk himself hoca actually using this as an insult on someone.. it's it really that insulting to look like a Turk? I mean seriously you people?? Wow.

[Hoca]

Pfff, people who were bellow me 100 year ago are now seeing me not as an equal. Whatever. :cool:


Like I said, all children from Muslim were Muslim. And they ended up in your nation which is Bosnia has more Turkish influence in everything from culture, food, architecture, religion, and blood than Serbs. If you don't believe me prove me wrong.
That is not true. I already explained you about the Ottoman policy were they were allowed to have fun with Christian girls. Guess what? Baby gonna pop out and that child would become a Serb. Bosniaks were Muslim so they were not touched. That explains perfectly why Serbs look less European than Bosnniaks.


No I don't know any Serbian with Turkish father or mother. Perhaps you can find me one figure since this is your claim. It's very easy for me to find Turks with Serb mothers, Albanian mothers, Circassian mothers (you), and whoever mother. It's because your a nation of whores, like honey for bee's you attracted them from every corner of Ottoman empire.

But I give you benefit of doubt, show me one Serbian with Turkish father and I will show you 10 Turks with foreign mothers. And we continue and see who runs out ;)

Ok, I will begin, look in the mirror and you will see one, hahahahahahah... Now it is your turn. Give me 10 people as you claimed.

[Drawing-slim]

Pfff, people who were bellow me 100 year ago are now seeing me not as an equal. Whatever. :cool:
That is not true. I already explained you about the Ottoman policy were they were allowed to have fun with Christian girls. Guess what? Baby gonna pop out and that child would become a Serb. Bosniaks were Muslim so they were not touched. That explains perfectly why Serbs look less European than Bosnniaks.
Ok, I will begin, look in the mirror and you will see one, hahahahahahah... Now it is your turn. Give me 10 people as you claimed.
Stefan looks uber balkan. So quit on this one. He does not look like a Turk, nor his height suggests this.
But you make a brilliant point however.
Because if we look at the behaviour of some Muslims around Europe today, they seem to rape only non-Muslim women and call sisters and be totally respectful only towards Muslim women. So from that perspective and imagining them now being conquerors, you make a whole lot of sense.

[epirot]

Pfff, people who were bellow me 100 year ago are now seeing me not as an equal. Whatever. :cool:


That is not true. I already explained you about the Ottoman policy were they were allowed to have fun with Christian girls. Guess what? Baby gonna pop out and that child would become a Serb. Bosniaks were Muslim so they were not touched. That explains perfectly why Serbs look less European than Bosnniaks.



Ok, I will begin, look in the mirror and you will see one, hahahahahahah... Now it is your turn. Give me 10 people as you claimed.

Slavs were always superior to you.

[kvarc]

this Hrulj dude is getting funnier by the day :)

[Twistedmind]

This is outdated genetics, lol it's from year 2000.
Dont forget its about Y-DNA Haplogroups too :D But seems Hruljoski has to learn few things about Genetics. :D

[epirot]

But seems Hruljoski has to learn few things about Genetics. :D

That he descents from Serbs, being the most important!

[Twistedmind]

That he descents from Serbs, being the most important!

He seems to be descendant of most idiotic people ever.

[Skerdilaid]

He seems to be descendant of most idiotic people ever.

You mean the Serbs??

[Twistedmind]

You mean the Serbs??

Nope, he says he is Illyrian.

[Stefan_Dusan]

That is not true. I already explained you about the Ottoman policy were they were allowed to have fun with Christian girls. Guess what? Baby gonna pop out and that child would become a Serb. Bosniaks were Muslim so they were not touched. That explains perfectly why Serbs look less European than Bosnniaks.



Ok, I will begin, look in the mirror and you will see one, hahahahahahah... Now it is your turn. Give me 10 people as you claimed.

Lol you didn't explain shit my friend because there was no such policy. Now, I know it's amazing for Turkish bastard of a whore, but I can trace my male ancestry to 1292 and all Serbian names ;D So try again.

[Twistedmind]

Lol you didn't explain shit my friend because there was no such policy. Now, I know it's amazing for Turkish bastard of a whore, but I can trace my male ancestry to 1292 and all Serbian names ;D So try again.

There is no any kind of genetic aproximity between Turks and Serbs. Why do you comment retarded claims?

[Minesweeper]

Serbs are the ancestors of some of the idiots here who hate Serbs more than anything. According to genetic testings.

[Stefan_Dusan]

There is no any kind of genetic aproximity between Turks and Serbs. Why do you comment retarded claims?

I wanted to remind him how much modern Turks these days were born thanks to whores all over Empire. But you're right I should stop responding.

[Hoca]

I wanted to remind him how much modern Turks these days were born thanks to whores all over Empire. But you're right I should stop responding.Some people have an actual life outside the internet ;) Can't respond always. You keep using words as whore and whatnot. It only shows this is a sensitive issue for you, hahhaha. You first said you were 99%, 98% or 100% European. First of all make a choice. Secondly 100% European doesn't exist. Thirdly, you still didn't completed my request: you looking in the mirror and telling yourself you are 100% European, while.., while holding a straight face! And lastly please give proof you have records of your ancestery to 1292. Nobody has full ancestery until that time. You are full of bull my friend.


Lol you didn't explain shit my friend because there was no such policy. Now, I know it's amazing for Turkish bastard of a whore, but I can trace my male ancestry to 1292 and all Serbian names ;D So try again.
LoL, coming from Serb. How does pumping Serbian girls makes us whores? Ottoman officials were allowed to have fun with Christian girls. Guess what? Baby gonna pop out. Do you think we fathered the children? No, those children became Serbs. That makes you bastard, not me. :cool:

[kvarc]

"Baby gonna pop out" hahah he said that like 20 times.......

[Twistedmind]

LoL, coming from Serb. How does pumping Serbian girls makes us whores? Ottoman officials were allowed to have fun with Christian girls. Guess what? Baby gonna pop out. Do you think we fathered the children? No, those children became Serbs. That makes you bastard, not me. :cool:

Ottoman officials were Serbs, Greek,s Georgians, Russians, Italians, French, Albanians, Hungarians, not Anatolian peasants :D Calm down Anatolian friend. :laugh:

[Mans not hot]

Hoca, fuck off. No Slav girls want you, you piece of shit.

[rashka]

There is a reason Bosniaks look full-European and Serbs not.

Very European. Indeed. :rolleyes:

http://www.rijaset.ba/images/stories/slikezamodul/mat-dan-2013/U_enici%20generacije%20s%20reisom%20Kavazovi_em,%2 012.06.13.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/2kf2ib.jpg
http://www.rijaset.ba/images/stories/MINA/maj08/maturalni%20dan.jpghttp://www.rijaset.ba/images/stories/2minaVijesti/Maturalni-dan-obracanje-Reisu-l-uleme-dr.Cerica-31.05.10.jpg

[Skerdilaid]

That he descents from Serbs, being the most important!


He seems to be descendant of most idiotic people ever.


Nope, he says he is Illyrian.
:rolleyes:

[Methmatician]

Very European. Indeed. :rolleyes:

Jealous, betch? :laugh:

[Lemon Kush]

This Turk is just jealous that Serbs were able to keep their bloodline pure, while he's just some Anatolian mongrel

[rashka]

Jealous, betch? :laugh:

Yes, makes me want to buy one of these so that I won't have to wash my hair :laugh:

http://www.dhresource.com/albu_379565096_00-1.0x0/2013-fashion-muslim-hijab-scarves-milk-silk.jpg

[Methmatician]

Yes, makes me want to buy one of these so that I won't have to wash my hair :laugh:

http://www.dhresource.com/albu_379565096_00-1.0x0/2013-fashion-muslim-hijab-scarves-milk-silk.jpg

You're still suppose to wash your hair.

[epirot]

This Turk is just jealous that Serbs were able to keep their bloodline pure, while he's just some Anatolian mongrel

Bro, Serbia + Bulgaria together in full throttle is the answer.
Would kick everyone's butt.

[RandoBloom]

Lol you didn't explain shit my friend because there was no such policy. Now, I know it's amazing for Turkish bastard of a whore, but I can trace my male ancestry to 1292 and all Serbian names ;D So try again.

There was such policy in every medieval state. Turks included. Its just that they kept it for longer. Turks would fuck your women and leave them pregnant.


Serbs are the ancestors of some of the idiots here who hate Serbs more than anything. According to genetic testings.

Or more likely that you are descendant from those people. Ever thought of that?


Ottoman officials were Serbs, Greek,s Georgians, Russians, Italians, French, Albanians, Hungarians, not Anatolian peasants :D Calm down Anatolian friend. :laugh:

Nope. Ottoman officials in Rumelia were Turkish exclusively. Governors were from Europe, Albanians or Bosniaks, as well as soldiers, but officials were Turkish. And they were ones "consumating" the right of the first night


Very European. Indeed. :rolleyes:

http://www.rijaset.ba/images/stories/slikezamodul/mat-dan-2013/U_enici%20generacije%20s%20reisom%20Kavazovi_em,%2 012.06.13.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/2kf2ib.jpg
http://www.rijaset.ba/images/stories/MINA/maj08/maturalni%20dan.jpghttp://www.rijaset.ba/images/stories/2minaVijesti/Maturalni-dan-obracanje-Reisu-l-uleme-dr.Cerica-31.05.10.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FG4CCILGuac/T1YKdcbs1OI/AAAAAAAAB6Q/L9LJl9mrEXQ/s0/mustafa%2520ceric%2520mufti%2520of%2520bosnia.jpg
Yeah, white and european. Something you will never be
http://www.udarno.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/boris-tadic1.jpg


This Turk is just jealous that Serbs were able to keep their bloodline pure, while he's just some Anatolian mongrel

Oh wow, so you discovered that Turks come from Asia? What prize did you win hahahaha

[RandoBloom]

Bro, Serbia + Bulgaria together in full throttle is the answer.
Would kick everyone's butt.

Serbs first need to give them back the teritories they stole from Bulgaria :)
And Romania would pulverize you.
Hungary as well. Austria. Turkey.

[epirot]

Serbs first need to give them back the teritories they stole from Bulgaria :)
And Romania would pulverize you.
Hungary as well. Austria. Turkey.

lol lil anti-slav self-hater... you were born a nobody .... enjoy it while it lasts ... Orthodoxy is right the corner ...

[RandoBloom]

lol lil anti-slav self-hater... you were born a nobody .... enjoy it while it lasts ... Orthodoxy is right the corner ...

Genious, if I was anti slav hater, I would hate those who hate slavs :)
Idiot :)
I love those people.
Orthodoxy?
Hahaha religious fanatics and faggots you mean?

[epirot]

Genious, if I was anti slav SELF- hater, I would hate those who hate slavs :)
Idiot :)
I love those people.
Orthodoxy?
Hahaha religious fanatics and faggots you mean?

moron learn to read.... then back to China/Japan with your turkic family.

[Twistedmind]

Nope. Ottoman officials in Rumelia were Turkish exclusively. Governors were from Europe, Albanians or Bosniaks, as well as soldiers, but officials were Turkish. And they were ones "consumating" the right of the first night

Officials were never "consumating anything". It was right of feudal lord. And feudal lords were locals. Anyway, Ius primae noctis did not exist in Ottoman legal system (You really tought Ottomans were Latin speaking population).

Anyway, Serbs and Bosniaks have same paternal DNA haplogroups, so sodd off. Turkish Y-DNA is verry different. :laugh:






Yeah, white and european. Something you will never be
You are not European. And will never be.
This is european.
http://s.tf.rs/2012/01/05/Patrijarh-Irinej.jpg

Your grand mufti is self declared Turk.


Look at this "white Europeans" :laugh:

http://bhmedia.se/banjaluka/fotke/banjalucki%20muftija%20u%20posjeti%20biz%20u%20mal meu.jpg

[Stefan_Dusan]

Genetic results of a Serb (mine) by 23andMe:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5504/10710827865_e30a250a25_o.png

I share with several other Balkaners and none managed to be 100% (though some were close enough with 99.9% and some a lot less). So here is Hrulj, Hoca Turkish historian team :laugh:

[Stefan_Dusan]

Back in Kosovo the local rulers were primarily Albanian or Serbian muslims. There were Turks but I never heard such a barbaric policy as they could themself to women on their marriage night. What is funny is I see Hrulj in other threads saying things like how tolerant Ottomans were, and never forced Islam on anyone but then see him make comments like that :laugh: Back in those times, if woman was raped she'd probably be killed and rebellion would happen as account of Pasha who thought he had right to another woman.

[Vukodav]

Back in Kosovo the local rulers were primarily Albanian or Serbian muslims. There were Turks but I never heard such a barbaric policy as they could themself to women on their marriage night. What is funny is I see Hrulj in other threads saying things like how tolerant Ottomans were, and never forced Islam on anyone but then see him make comments like that :laugh: Back in those times, if woman was raped she'd probably be killed and rebellion would happen as account of Pasha who thought he had right to another woman.
I know that if Serbian girl was raped and get pregnant by Turk back in that time, the custom was to throw the baby in the river. Nasty custom, but those were the nasty times..

[blogen]

This is european.
http://s.tf.rs/2012/01/05/Patrijarh-Irinej.jpg

No. This is visibly Balkan or Near East. This is Europe:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Catholicmass-615x3451.jpg

or this:

http://abyssofgod.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/irja-askola.jpg

[Twistedmind]

No.
This is visibly Balkan or Near East.

Balkans are in Europe, and nope I doubt there is to much of Orthodox people in Near East, not more than Roman Catholics :laugh:




This is Europe:


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Catholicmass-615x3451.jpg

or this:


http://abyssofgod.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/irja-askola.jpg


L00lz. I was talking about apperance, but if you insist there is more Orthodox people in Europe than feminsit protestants. Anyway, why your butthurt apperance could be spoted in any threads about Serbs? If you werent ubermensch Hungaryan t00ran1st I would say you are butthurt.

This is visibly Middle East:

http://communio.stblogs.org/FTwal.jpg

And many in your Avatar is far east. So sodd off.

[blogen]

Balkans are in Europe

Yes, Istanbul and Chechnya also!

[Twistedmind]

Yes, Istanbul
Yep, and guess what, it was one of most importnant cities in history of Europe.



and Chechnya also!
Nope. Why do you got buthurt with geography? :D You know, that Balkanoids are far closer to you genneticaly than Swedes? :laugh:

You forgot, that Europe was, among other things based on Greek heritage? :D

[blogen]

Yep, and guess what, it was one of most importnant cities in history of Europe.

Yes, and this is Europe then in Istanbul:
http://www.rfp-europe.eu/images/Bardakoglu.JPG


Nope. Why do you got buthurt with geography? :D You know, that Balkanoids are far closer to you genneticaly than Swedes? :laugh:

Chechnya is in Europe on the northern slope of the Caucasus. :D

[Twistedmind]

Yes, and this is Europe then in Istanbul:
http://www.rfp-europe.eu/images/Bardakoglu.JPG
And? He does not look like Balkanoid. It could easily be Europe in Munich, or Bonn, :laugh:



Chechnya in Europe on the northern slope of the Caucasus. :D

Depends from perspective.


In Russia and the Soviet Union, the boundary along the Kuma–Manych Depression was the most commonly used as early as 1906.[11] In 1958, the Soviet Geographical Society formally recommended that the boundary between the Europe and Asia be drawn in textbooks from Baydaratskaya Bay, on the Kara Sea, along the eastern foot of Ural Mountains, then following the Ural River until the Mugodzhar Hills, and then the Emba River; and Kuma–Manych Depression,[12] thus placing the Caucasus entirely in Asia and the Urals entirely in Europe.[13] However, most geographers in the Soviet Union favoured the boundary along the Caucasus crest[14] and this became the standard convention in the latter 20th century, although the Kuma–Manych boundary remained in use in some 20th-century maps.
:D

[blogen]

And? He does not look like Balkanoid. It could easily be Europe in Munich, or Bonn, :laugh:

You have strange ideas about Munich. You know the Armenoid is not an average German type...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_k62kVowd9qw/TLyyZAhwk1I/AAAAAAAAATI/Pyr2f1NVFUo/s1600/a.bardak.jpg

[Twistedmind]

You have strange ideas about Munich. You know the Armenoid is not an average German type...

You know its verry average in Munich.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_k62kVowd9qw/TLyyZAhwk1I/AAAAAAAAATI/Pyr2f1NVFUo/s1600/a.bardak.jpg

[RandoBloom]

moron learn to read.... then back to China/Japan with your turkic family.

Why should I? I am not slav nor a Turk. I will stay right where I am.


Officials were never "consumating anything". It was right of feudal lord. And feudal lords were locals. Anyway, Ius primae noctis did not exist in Ottoman legal system (You really tought Ottomans were Latin speaking population).

Anyway, Serbs and Bosniaks have same paternal DNA haplogroups, so sodd off. Turkish Y-DNA is verry different. :laugh:




You are not European. And will never be.
This is european.
http://s.tf.rs/2012/01/05/Patrijarh-Irinej.jpg

Your grand mufti is self declared Turk.


Look at this "white Europeans" :laugh:

http://bhmedia.se/banjaluka/fotke/banjalucki%20muftija%20u%20posjeti%20biz%20u%20mal meu.jpg

The language doesnt matter. Ius Prima Nocta was the name of the law. Local language name for it differed. What didnt differ is what it is and what it does.
Ottomans had that right with every non christian woman from the time she got married to the time she got pregnant.

That isnt European. That is traitor religion of the easterlings.
If you want to be purely european I think Freyya is where you should look when seeking God. If you arent a pagan tipe then at least Catholicism :)



Back in Kosovo the local rulers were primarily Albanian or Serbian muslims. There were Turks but I never heard such a barbaric policy as they could themself to women on their marriage night. What is funny is I see Hrulj in other threads saying things like how tolerant Ottomans were, and never forced Islam on anyone but then see him make comments like that :laugh: Back in those times, if woman was raped she'd probably be killed and rebellion would happen as account of Pasha who thought he had right to another woman.

That "barbaric" policy was enforced in every part of Europe, from Lisboa to Nevsky Rus and down to Turks.
"Rebelion" :D
What rebelion. You rebelious types poped up only after Russo Turkish wars.
So much for your rebelions :)
And 100% European sure looks like its from a highly relevant Source :D


No. This is visibly Balkan or Near East. This is Europe:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Catholicmass-615x3451.jpg

or this:

http://abyssofgod.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/irja-askola.jpg

Agreed to a point. Although this
http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/7b/97/ceremony,goddess,pagan,ritual,stonehenge-7b9701aa452ab7225c4cfa72d8d5b294_h.jpg
is more like it :)

[Minesweeper]

Why should I? I am not slav nor a Turk. I will stay right where I am.


What are you, Illyrian?

Can you say something on Illyrian language? If not, I bet you can prove it with 23andme or similar test that clearly shows dominant Paleo-Balkanic element, can you?

[RandoBloom]

What are you, Illyrian?

Can you say something on Illyrian language? If not, I bet you can prove it with 23andme or similar test that clearly shows dominant Paleo-Balkanic element, can you?

Send me money and I shall do a test. Although looking at Stefans 100% European I doubt the purpose haha :D

Yes I can actualy say something :)
Bindus.
There you go :)
Now I bet you that you cant speak Turkish.

[Minesweeper]

Send me money and I shall do a test. Although looking at Stefans 100% European I doubt the purpose haha :D

Yes I can actualy say something :)
Bindus.
There you go :)
Now I bet you that you cant speak Turkish.

How can you know then? You could do the test and end up having Slavic element as dominant. And, genetics aside, your mother tongue is Slavic.

Bosnian Illyrian theory is not accepted anywhere except among handful of Bosniak nationalists.

[Twistedmind]

Hruljoski, worshipers of Freya become Europeans when they converted Chtistianity. You become nonEuropen when left it. Simple analogy. And please stop quoting me, dtupidity is contagious, I am affraid of desease. Btw, jus primae noctis could not be law in muslim country, its against shariah, and there was no "local" name for it.

[RandoBloom]

How can you know then? You could do the test and end up having Slavic element as dominant. And, genetics aside, your mother tongue is Slavic.

Bosnian Illyrian theory is not accepted anywhere except among handful of Bosniak nationalists.


I told you send me the money and I will do it and post the results here :)
My mother tongue is Bosnian, even surounded by Slavs on all our borders, and being forced to speak a form of slavic, we still retained a sense of national awareness and preserved identity trough language :)
Its accepted everywhere, except Serbs and Albanians :D

[Lucifer]

http://abyssofgod.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/irja-askola.jpg

this is the grossest thing i've seen for a long while, jews did a good job it seems.

[RandoBloom]

Hruljoski, worshipers of Freya become Europeans when they converted Chtistianity. You become nonEuropen when left it. Simple analogy. And please stop quoting me, dtupidity is contagious, I am affraid of desease.

No they didnt. They abandoned a native European goddess for worship of a dead jew. Doesnt seem European to do that.
I at least dont worship a jew.

[Minesweeper]

I told you send me the money and I will do it and post the results here :)
My mother tongue is Bosnian, even surounded by Slavs on all our borders, and being forced to speak a form of slavic, we still retained a sense of national awareness and preserved identity trough language :)
Its accepted everywhere, except Serbs and Albanians :D

Like where? xD

[Stefan_Dusan]

Even your countrymen don't accept it, Diabolik for instance. In fact if you consider Bosniaks who believe they're Illyrian are probably only small nutjob percent of population. But then there are Bosniaks who at least look majority Balkan and can entertain such thoughts, unfortunately you look very very very, painfully, slavic. And I thought you were rich guy and could afford test yourself.

[RandoBloom]

Like where? xD

Everywhere :)
How is your national theory doing? Still translating Sklavinija and Slaven as Serb state and Serb :D?

[RandoBloom]

Even your countrymen don't accept it, Diabolik for instance. In fact if you consider Bosniaks who believe they're Illyrian are probably only small nutjob percent of population. But then there are Bosniaks who at least look majority Balkan and can entertain such thoughts, unfortunately you look very very very, painfully, slavic. And I thought you were rich guy and could afford test yourself.


Diabolik still has residue of comunist time and hates albanians.
I look slavic :D
Nice job Stefan :D
I dont have a credit card :)
So why dont you pay for me with it :)

[Twistedmind]

No they didnt. They abandoned a native European goddess for worship of a dead jew. Doesnt seem European to do that.
I at least dont worship a jew.

You consider Him to be prophet. Lame excuse. Anyway, they couldnt be traitors of European identity, sine European identity was created by their Christian enemy Charlemagne. So only native religion of Europe is Christianity. I dont know why but seems to me you are kinda stupid for such kind of discussions.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Diabolik still has residue of comunist time and hates albanians.
I look slavic :D
Nice job Stefan :D
I dont have a credit card :)
So why dont you pay for me with it :)

And don't take my word for it, go to Kosovo (you claim you do) and ask them to guess where you're from.

To pay for you I need your full name and exact home address for shipping purpose ;)

[RandoBloom]

You consider Him to be prophet. Lame excuse. Anyway, they couldnt be traitors of European identity, sine European identity was created by their Christian enemy Charlemagne. So only native religion of Europe is Christianity. I dont know why but seems to me you are kinda stupid for such kind of discussions.
No no no no no, Twisted, you need to be Pagan in order to be European. Or find me another religion founded in Europe by an European :D
Worshipin someone as a God and saying he is a prophet are things that cant be more different :D


And don't take my word for it, go to Kosovo (you claim you do) and ask them to guess where you're from.

To pay for you I need your full name and exact home address for shipping purpose ;)

They thought I was German when I spoke in German :O
Or you can give me your credit card number and I will take care of that :)

[Minesweeper]

Everywhere :)


Can you name places and countries or scientists?

One, at least. xD

[Stefan_Dusan]

Or you can give me your credit card number and I will take care of that :)

Haha I do not want to unintentionally fund dozen of Serbian dildo for your pleasure :D

PS tell them your from Balkan and see if they guess Albania or Greece. The only non-slavic countries in the Balkan.

[RandoBloom]

Haha I do not what to unintentionally fund dozen of Serbian dildo for your pleasure :D

PS tell them your from Balkan and see if they guess Albania or Greece. The only non-slavic countries in the Balkan.

Lol, the logic XD. And if I tell them that I am from Finland where would they say I am from?

You dont trust me? Or you are lying?

[Stefan_Dusan]

You dont trust me? Or you are lying?

Ofc I don't trust some anonymous man on internet with my CC info. What's matter you don't trust me with your full address and name xD

[Twistedmind]

No no no no no, Twisted, you need to be Pagan in order to be European. Or find me another religion founded in Europe by an European :D Nope, there is no European paganism. Symple math, Europe as cultural concep was made by Alkuin, Christian Monk. Germanic paganism eas non Eur religion. You could go arround and arround and bit more arround. Buut you will never make room for youself to be European. :P You know its like saying Anatolia was longer under Ottomans than Turkey.

[RandoBloom]

Ofc I don't trust some anonymous man on internet with my CC info. What's matter you don't trust me with your full address and name xD

Why not. Its not like I need your money. I just need a cc :)
I dont because I like my privacy :)


Nope, there is no European paganism. Symple math, Europe as cultural concep was made by Alkuin, Christian Monk. Germanic paganism eas non Eur religion. You could go arround and arround and bit more arround. Buut you will never make room for youself to be European. :P You know its like saying Anatolia was longer under Ottomans than Turkey.

Yes there is as much as it pains you. You are nothing but a worshiper of a dead jew, and thus not european.
As for last sentence you ever heard of typos :)
The intended was Greece, but hell, not like there is a lot of difference between those two, greeks are turks after all

[Twistedmind]

Yes there is as much as it pains you. Rlly ? I allways proudly say I am Christian. Considering you saying whats European Idk you seems to be quite confused, You think Karelia is close to Japan. Wouldnt pay to much to Your words.

u are nothing but a worshiper of a dead jew, and thus not european. You didnt look in Koran, that Jew aint dead. :D


As for last sentence you ever heard of typos :) Karelian war was fought by Soviets and Japan. Thats typo. :P



The intended was Greece, but hell, not like there is a lot of difference between those two, greeks are turks after all

I dont know, you are Turk also. Dont really care about intra Turkish discussions.

[RandoBloom]

Rlly ? I allways proudly say I am Christian. Considering you saying whats European Idk you seems to be quite confused, You think Karelia is close to Japan. Wouldnt pay to much to Your words.
You didnt look in Koran, that Jew aint dead. :D
Karelian war was fought by Soviets and Japan. Thats typo. :P


I dont know, you are Turk also. Dont really care about intra Turkish discussions.
hahahaha :D

[Twistedmind]

Anyway, Hruljski, I tought you put all TA Serbs on ignore list, yet you are keepingreplying to us. xD

[RandoBloom]

Anyway, Hruljski, I tought you put all TA Serbs on ignore list, yet you are keepingreplying to us. xD
Guapo is "all Serbs" :D
Interesting.

[Twistedmind]

Guapo is "all Serbs" :D
Interesting.

You quoted me and said.. You are from now on my ignore. Also Stefan, Vukodav, Mines. But ok man I understand, that was just typo.

[RandoBloom]

You quoted me and said.. You are from now on my ignore. Also Stefan, Vukodav, Mines. But ok man I understand, that was just typo.

Show me that :)

[Twistedmind]

Show me that :)

I am not your spellcheker. Srry xD

[Krampus]

This is getting intense, but I highly doubt Serbs are Africans and Turks.

[Hoca]

Nope, there is no European paganism. Symple math, Europe as cultural concep was made by Alkuin, Christian Monk. Germanic paganism eas non Eur religion. You could go arround and arround and bit more arround. Buut you will never make room for youself to be European. :P You know its like saying Anatolia was longer under Ottomans than Turkey.
That is not the same. Ottomans and Turks are connected by time line. Illryian and Albanian doesn't.. not even by a mile.. there are thousands of years of gap between them.

[Minesweeper]

Genetics are genetics. Is there newer results that you can put on the table?
Or does it have more to do with Moorish genes in Portugese ?

Sure, here is the real deal, not those falsified jokes.

Serbs-Bosniaks

I1_____________7.8%_____4.7%
I2b1___________1.67%___ /
I2a2 __________38.5% ___ 43.5%
E1b1b _________ 17.3%___13.0%
R1a____________14.5%____15.3%
R1b____________ 4.5%____3.5%
J1______________0.6% ___2.4%
J2a ____________3.3%____7.1%
J2b ____________1.7% ___2.4%
G2a____________2.2%____3.5%
N ______________3.3% ___ /
Q _____________1.7%____ /
H______________2.2% ___ /
L_______________0.6%____1.2%
F_______________ / ______ 3.5%
K_______________ / ______ 1.2%

Source for Serbian results: Mirabal S; Varljen T; Gayden T et al (July 2010). "Human Y-chromosome short tandem repeats: A tale of acculturation and migrations as mechanisms for the diffusion of agriculture in the Balkan Peninsula". American Journal of Physical Anthropology 142 (3): 380–390.

Source for Bosniak results: Marjanović, Damir; et al. "The peopling of modern Bosnia-Herzegovina: Y-chromosome haplogroups in the three main ethnic groups." Institute for Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology, University of Sarajevo. November 2005


There's more difference between Schleswig-Holstein and Bavaria or Austria, for example.

[RandoBloom]

Sure, here is the real deal, not those falsified jokes.

Serbs-Bosniaks

I1_____________7.8%_____4.7%
I2b1___________1.67%___ /
I2a2 __________38.5% ___ 43.5%
E1b1b _________ 17.3%___13.0%
R1a____________14.5%____15.3%
R1b____________ 4.5%____3.5%
J1______________0.6% ___2.4%
J2a ____________3.3%____7.1%
J2b ____________1.7% ___2.4%
G2a____________2.2%____3.5%
N ______________3.3% ___ /
Q _____________1.7%____ /
H______________2.2% ___ /
L_______________0.6%____1.2%
F_______________ / ______ 3.5%
K_______________ / ______ 1.2%

Source for Serbian results: Mirabal S; Varljen T; Gayden T et al (July 2010). "Human Y-chromosome short tandem repeats: A tale of acculturation and migrations as mechanisms for the diffusion of agriculture in the Balkan Peninsula". American Journal of Physical Anthropology 142 (3): 380–390.

Source for Bosniak results: Marjanović, Damir; et al. "The peopling of modern Bosnia-Herzegovina: Y-chromosome haplogroups in the three main ethnic groups." Institute for Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology, University of Sarajevo. November 2005


There's more difference between Schleswig-Holstein and Bavaria or Austria, for example.


And what exactly is the overlaping factor? It should be one and the same, without difference.
Aparently having a genome makes you a Serb. Soon having a Y chromosome will make you that as well :D
After that being able to breathe XD
How many people were tested :)

[RandoBloom]

Here I found it :)

100 people.

The results for genetic distance shows:
http://i.imgur.com/LwGKsGZ.jpg

Which means that Palestinians, Italians and Greeks are closer to each other than Bosniaks are to Serbs and Croats and Croats are close to Serbs as Swedes are to Palestinians :D


http://i.imgur.com/dQ7qW6F.jpg

[Minesweeper]

And what exactly is the overlaping factor? It should be one and the same, without difference.
Aparently having a genome makes you a Serb. Soon having a Y chromosome will make you that as well :D
After that being able to breathe XD
How many people were tested :)

Serbian sample was between 150 and 200, don't remember. It's the biggest so far and most reliable. Dunno about yours.

Y DNA is paternal line, therefore if we had Turks, Arabs and blacks as our forefathers, like you claim, it would be visible in these tests. Same results are impossible in two neighboring villages, let alone countries.

[RandoBloom]

Serbian sample was between 150 and 200, don't remember. It's the biggest so far and most reliable. Dunno about yours.

Y DNA is paternal line, therefore if we had Turks, Arabs and blacks as our forefathers, like you claim, it would be visible in these tests. Same results are impossible in two neighboring villages, let alone countries.

I found the results and the booklet dont you worry.
As I said above, palestinians are close to spaniards as we are to you :)

[Vukodav]

I found the results and the booklet dont you worry.
As I said above, palestinians are close to spaniards as we are to you :)
indeed, in this case you are Palestinians.

[Twistedmind]

I found the results and the booklet dont you worry.
As I said above, palestinians are close to spaniards as we are to you :)
http://blog.23andme.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/novembreblogpostfig.jpg
Let me guess, it was another typo of yours. :laugh:

I really love the way Hrulj makes his "typos".

[RandoBloom]

http://blog.23andme.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/novembreblogpostfig.jpg
Let me guess, it was another typo of yours. :laugh:

I really love the way Hrulj makes his "typos".


I posted the results to you in picture, remember :)

indeed, in this case you are Palestinians.

And you are soon to be in jama. So what

[Twistedmind]

I posted the results to you in picture, remember :)
Rlly? Why do you talk about gennetics when you dont understand it? :laugh:
It was testing of Y-DNA haplogroups, not genom wide test. It was also 13 years ago, on sample of less than 20ish people. But thats ok, man I understand you, it was typo, after all. :thumbs

[RandoBloom]

Rlly? Why do you talk about gennetics when you dont understand it? :laugh:
It was testing of Y-DNA haplogroups, not genom wide test. It was also 13 years ago, on sample of less than 20ish people. But thats ok, man I understand you, it was typo, after all. :thumbs

The results come from the same booklet you quoted I looked it up :)
Quit with the downplaying :)
You are making a serb out of yourself

[Twistedmind]

The results come from the same booklet you quoted I looked it up :)
Where? I guess this is your typo again?



Quit with the downplaying :)
Nah, nigga, I am not downplaying anything. You said, Serbs are as far from Bushnaks, as Palestinians from Spaniards, from study I quoted, its obvious, you were talking bullshit, aka you were: "making typo. Stop being bushnak.

Anyway, I am still curious how Institut Vinča, could do some research on field of molecular biology. :D Given the fact it is insitute for Nucler physics. nother typo?

[RandoBloom]

Where? I guess this is your typo again?


Nah, nigga, I am not downplaying anything. You said, Serbs are as far from Bushnaks, as Palestinians from Spaniards, from study I quoted, its obvious, you were talking bullshit, aka you were: "making typo. Stop being bushnak.

Source for Bosniak results: Marjanović, Damir; et al. "The peopling of modern Bosnia-Herzegovina: Y-chromosome haplogroups in the three main ethnic groups." Institute for Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology, University of Sarajevo. November 2005
Same source you used, shows the genetic distance :)
And then I looked up genetic distance between various nations in europe and mediteranean and posted the results of that as well :)
Go back a page, you really are a serb

[Twistedmind]

Source for Bosniak results: Marjanović, Damir; et al. "The peopling of modern Bosnia-Herzegovina: Y-chromosome haplogroups in the three main ethnic groups." Institute for Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology, University of Sarajevo. November 2005

Nah, you just posted some pic, that apparently institute for nucler physics from Serbia did research on gennetic field. Sorry, its stupid.



Same source you used, shows the genetic distance :)

Where did I use it? :D
Map I used is from 23andMe blog, study is from 2009. 2009 is not 2005. Dr. Denis Marjanović does not worki in 23 and me.... :D




And then I looked up genetic distance between various nations in europe and mediteranean and posted the results of that as well :)
Go back a page, you really are a serb
Hmmm, and see what? Another typo of yours?

[Vukodav]

And you are soon to be in jama. So what
and you talked about me being chetnik and all :picard2:
hypocrite.

[CrystalMaiden]

http://www.bosanski-nacionalisti.org/uploads/1/2/0/5/12052709/586208584.jpg

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww..

Vraćaš se korijenima :D

Vi 'Ercegovci i vaš kvazi Ustašluj :o

[Krajisnik]

stefan defiantly doesn't look Turkish, have u seen real Turks?(not the ones with Balkan dna) i think you are comparing him to Turks with balkan dna thats the problem. but i would say that there is more cigani in serbia than bosnia

[KrashNick]

stefan defiantly doesn't look Turkish, have u seen real Turks?(not the ones with Balkan dna) i think you are comparing him to Turks with balkan dna thats the problem. but i would say that there is more cigani in serbia than bosnia

Black Swan is that you ??

Btw why did you stole my username lol

[Krajisnik]

wut

[Krajisnik]

Black Swan is that you ??

Btw why did you stole my username lollol im from krajina <bosnia>

[Boiorix]

Ма јесте ево сваки други Србин је косоок а сваки трећи Арабид. Ма то се види из прве како не схватате људи, ми смо уствари већи турци од турака. :D
Xaxa 14 страна за тему покренуту од балијског малоумника, браво. :D Видите да је комплексаш који не може без Срба. Хруљ, теби нико није крив што си Србин чији је ђедо био продата душа а баба турска проститутка, не мораш то на нас да сваљујеш. :) Ко се није одрекао вјере није се одрекао ни жене. ;)

Ево ти један текст о томе да се мало едукујеш око генетике и антропологије Срба а видим да те то много занима :
http://srb-akcija.blogspot.com/2011/04/o.html

И топло препоручујем књигу од Лазе М. Костића ''Образовање и одржање Српске нације'', која је уствари збирка свједочанстава страних путописаца, историчара и антрополога а говори о расној чистоти српске нације како под турцима тако и прије њих. Сваки од тих страних стручњака је био сагласан у томе да су Срби један од најчистијих народа Европе.
Ево линк : http://www.scribd.com/doc/87639194/Obrazovanje-i-Odrzanje-Srpske-Nacije-Lazo-M-Kostic
Уживај :thumbs up

[Boiorix]

А сад мало генетике (за поЧетнике) пошто се види на првој страни да је циљана та ХГ2

''hg 2, 2.47 haplogroup 14 13 11 14 22 10 - 11 (hg2) - Norwegian, Germanic

The members of HG2 are believed to be the descendants of two later waves of humans into Europe. The last of these waves arrived about 8,000 years ago and is credited with introducing agriculture into Europe.

HG2 is most common in Southern and Central Europe, but that haplogroup is also often seen in those of Anglo-Saxon and Scandinavian descent.''

Шта сад испаде и да су Скандинавци Алтајско-анадолски? :D

Да мало појасним, ХГ2 је уствари стари назив за хаплогрупу И, а сви знамо која је то хаплогрупа и да се према данашњим истраживањима отприлике поклапа са резултатима овог малоумног истраживања од прије 10 година која су извршена сирово и манипулатоски. То представља управо онај динарски ген на који се и потурице и Хрвати толико ложе. :D

Maпа фамозног ХГ2
44000

[RandoBloom]

А сад мало генетике (за поЧетнике) пошто се види на првој страни да је циљана та ХГ2

''hg 2, 2.47 haplogroup 14 13 11 14 22 10 - 11 (hg2) - Norwegian, Germanic

The members of HG2 are believed to be the descendants of two later waves of humans into Europe. The last of these waves arrived about 8,000 years ago and is credited with introducing agriculture into Europe.

HG2 is most common in Southern and Central Europe, but that haplogroup is also often seen in those of Anglo-Saxon and Scandinavian descent.''

Шта сад испаде и да су Скандинавци Алтајско-анадолски? :D

Да мало појасним, ХГ2 је уствари стари назив за хаплогрупу И, а сви знамо која је то хаплогрупа и да се према данашњим истраживањима отприлике поклапа са резултатима овог малоумног истраживања од прије 10 година која су извршена сирово и манипулатоски. То представља управо онај динарски ген на који се и потурице и Хрвати толико ложе. :D

Maпа фамозног ХГ2
44000
bagay na walang kapararakan

[Boiorix]

البوشناق الإسهال التركية. Ево можда ћеш сад разумити, само читај са десна на лијево тако су ти и ђедови. :D

[RandoBloom]

البوشناق الإسهال التركية. Ево можда ћеш сад разумити, само читај са десна на лијево тако су ти и ђедови. :D

You could have continued from the stone age and started writing in English so that I can understand you :)

[Anglojew]

So that makes Bosnians the results of genetic tested Serbs raped by Turks and Albanians?

[RandoBloom]

So that makes Bosnians the results of genetic tested Serbs raped by Turks and Albanians?

Nah, that is impossible :)

[Novi Pazar]

Stupid thread; doesn't explain serbian toponyms in North Africa, Eastern Europe, West Asia etc....

[Novi Pazar]

So that makes Bosnians the results of genetic tested Serbs raped by Turks and Albanians?

The authors were paid, it's bs!

[Kastrioti1443]

Yes, serbs are gypsy inbreed animals.

[Novi Pazar]

^ uneducated post! like this thread! Serbian toponyms are noted in Iran too! Ancient Persian was very close to Slavic, in the ancient times, as a matter of fact the original Aryans (Arion is a hunter god in Serbian pagan religion) ARE SERBS!

PS Srbenda is what in India?

[Kastrioti1443]

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'' SERBIAN '' TOPONYMES AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH , YOU ARE AN ANIMAL

[InperatoreBT]

^ uneducated post! like this thread! Serbian toponyms are noted in Iran too! Ancient Persian was very close to Slavic, in the ancient times, as a matter of fact the original Aryans (Arion is a hunter god in Serbian pagan religion) ARE SERBS!

PS Srbenda is what in India?

ahahahahhaah. Jebem li te usta glupA :D. Jesus was a Serb too hahahhaahaahaah

[Sorab]

I think Srbinda is mentioned in Vedic hymns (Rig-veda)to be exact .
[QUOTE]"Srbinda wurde demnoch soviel heissen wie Herr, Furst, Erster der SRB-s und mit einer Bedeutungsentwicklung, die aus vedischer und nachvedischer Zeit gelaufig ist, darnach die Srb's selbst."
by Walter Wust in Uber das Alter des Rgveda und die Hauptfragen der indoarischen Fruhgeschichte in: "Wiener Zeitschrift fur die Kunde des Morgenlandes" (WZKM), Band 34, s.165-215":
http://srbinda.narod.ru/
as for toponyms
http://www.dodaj.rs/f/46/nF/2ygpwEGH/download-1.jpg

[InperatoreBT]

Raska Oblast? You mean Sandzak ?

[RandoBloom]

[QUOTE

PS Srbenda is what in India?

I think Srbinda is mentioned in Vedic hymns (Rig-veda)to be exact .

by Walter Wust in Uber das Alter des Rgveda und die Hauptfragen der indoarischen Fruhgeschichte in: "Wiener Zeitschrift fur die Kunde des Morgenlandes" (WZKM), Band 34, s.165-215":
http://srbinda.narod.ru/[/QUOTE]

Boston is Bosnian city then, you see the BOS part :laugh:

[LightHouse89]

Hrulj I want to fix you up with a Serbian girl. Your too hateful towards Serbs. 'Forgive your enemies but remember their names'-JFK

[Sorab]

Raska Oblast? You mean Sandzak ?
Sandzaks were abolished in Turkey at the beginning of the 20th century so its meaningless to use it today as an administrative name .

[RandoBloom]

Sandzaks were abolished in Turkey at the beginning of the 20th century so its meaningless to use it today as an administrative name .

Its also meaningless to use Term rashka for an area that was never called such.
Why not Trgoviste or Hum :)

[RandoBloom]

Hrulj I want to fix you up with a Serbian girl. Your too hateful towards Serbs. 'Forgive your enemies but remember their names'-JFK

No way. Thats the most disgusting proposition of anything I heard in a long time :bullet puke:puke:

[Sorab]

Not True ,Raška area or Rascia (as it was called by Byzantines ) comes from Ras ,Rašani ,Rasciani ( see Stari Ras )and river Raška were the heartland of medieval Serbia or Raška .

The name is derived from the name of the region's most important fort, Ras which first appears in the work de aedificiis of Byzantine Procopius as Arsa prior to the forming of Serbia (Procopius, De aedificiis, IV 4). Ras eventually became the capital district and seat of the first bishopric of Serbia (the Eparchy of Raška and Prizren). The name of the bishopric eventually started to denote the entire area under jurisdiction and later, under Stefan Nemanja, Ras was re-generated as state capital and as such it has at times been used by some[who?] in historiography to refer to Serbia from the early 12th to the early 14th century.[citation needed] It had began its use as an exonym for Serbia in Western European sources in the early 13th century,[citation needed] along with other names such as Dalmatia and Slavonia. The first attested appearance of the name Raška is in the Kotor charter (1186), in which Stefan Nemanja is mentioned as župan of Raška. Soon after Raška (Rascia) became an exonym for Serbia in western sources (Papacy, German, Italian, French etc.) often in conjunction with Serbia (Servia et Rascia). However, that name appears scarcely in medieval Serbian and never in Byzantine works to denote the state.
Between the 15th and 18th centuries, the term Raška (Rascia, Ráczság) was used to designate the southern Pannonian Plain inhabited by Serbs (Raci), who settled there during the late Middle Ages, the Ottoman period and the Great Serb migrations from medieval Serbia, "Rácz" has survived as a common surname in Hungary

[Stefan_Dusan]

Hrulj I want to fix you up with a Serbian girl. Your too hateful towards Serbs. 'Forgive your enemies but remember their names'-JFK

Any Serb girl who needs up with Hrulj might as well be killed along with Hrulj and who set them up together, dePoer.

[InperatoreBT]

Not True ,Raška area or Rascia (as it was called by Byzantines ) comes from Ras ,Rašani ,Rasciani ( see Stari Ras )and river Raška were the hearland of medeval Serbia or Raška .

But in so called ''Rashka'' Serbs are minority. While the Bosniaks are the majority, so It's Sandzak.

[RandoBloom]

Not True ,Raška area or Rascia (as it was called by Byzantines ) comes from Ras ,Rašani ,Rasciani ( see Stari Ras )and river Raška were the hearland of medeval Serbia or Raška .

And had a limited area which never encomapased modern day Sandzak, if you discount your latest attempt to do so.

[Sorab]

But in so called ''Rashka'' Serbs are minority. While the Bosniaks are the majority, so It's Sandzak.
Bosniaks call it Sandzak out of servile piety towards their former masters the Ottomans and Serbs are majority in both districts and most of the land in Muslim dominated parts is owned by Serbs aswell .Only in their wet dreams will they ever create their green transfersal across Serb dominated parts .
Today it falls under Zlatiborski and Raški district .
http://www.dodaj.rs/f/15/10r/Y8OU5PD/okruzisrbije.png

[RandoBloom]

Bosniaks call it Sandzak out of servile piety towards their former masters the Ottomans and Serbs are majority in both districts and most of the land in Muslim dominated parts is owned by Serbs aswell .Only in their wet dreams will they ever create their green transfersal across Serb dominated parts .
Today it falls under Zlatiborski and Raški district .
http://www.mojevijesti.ba/slike/novosti/AAA%20MOJE%20VIJESTI/REGION/Srbija/raspad-srbije1.jpg

And those districts are created recently to attempt to prevent Bosniaks from fighting for their rights.
How went the Kosovo? You can threaten as much as you want, but you should have realised by now that your threats and genocide is something no one is afraid of anymore
It is time you corect that map

[Sorab]

And those districts are created recently to attempt to prevent Bosniaks from fighting for their rights.
How went the Kosovo? You can threaten as much as you want, but you should have realised by now that your threats and genocide is something no one is afraid of anymore
It is time you corect that map
Those districts are continuation of administrative divides dating back to kingdom of SHS (banovine ,srezovi ).Before Balkan wars they were a part of Kosovo vilajet .
Dont be a foolish internet warrior and stop dreaming because SW Serbia isnt comparable with Kosovo in any aspect. In a possible future conflict Muslims will profit the least especially in Raška district .Most of Muslims in Serbia are loyal .On the subject of demographics ... even in Novi Pazar (largest city ) Muslims are majority only in the city while Serbs make up the majority in surrounding area .In Sjenica municipality Serbs own the 80 % of the land .
Novi Pazar demographics
http://www.dodaj.rs/f/19/b1/3CVckgu8/novi-pazar-demografija.jpg
blue-Serbs
green-muslims
http://www.dodaj.rs/f/3T/fA/1DKT1dtV/1/raska02i03.png

[RandoBloom]

Those districts are continuation of administrative divides dating back to kingdom of SHS (banovine ,srezovi ).Before Balkan wars they were a part of Kosovo vilajet .
Dont be a foolish internet warrior and stop dreaming because SW Serbia isnt comparable with Kosovo in any aspect. In a possible future conflict Muslims will profit the least especially in Raška district .Most of Muslims in Serbia are loyal .On the subject of demographics ... even in Novi Pazar (largest city ) Muslims are majority only in the city while Serbs make up the majority in surrounding area .In Sjenica municipality Serbs own the 80 % of the land .
Novi Pazar demographics
http://www.dodaj.rs/f/19/b1/3CVckgu8/novi-pazar-demografija.jpg
blue-Serbs
green-muslims
http://www.dodaj.rs/f/3T/fA/1DKT1dtV/1/raska02i03.png

You might have those 2 loyal lapdogs now, but Bosniaks will get their representatives soon enough :)
Loyalty, you can dream of that.
Remember how loyal Kosovo was acording to Serb lapdogs there.
Sandzak will join Bosnia sooner or later, since that is the only way to protect their interests.
Serbs can then go and live in Raska

[Novi Pazar]

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'' SERBIAN '' TOPONYMES AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH , YOU ARE AN ANIMAL

Please look at yourself in the mirror and say, "I'm a Chipetar."

[Kastrioti1443]

Please look at yourself in the mirror and say, "I'm a Chipetar."

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


ANADOLID GYPSY SERB

[Novi Pazar]

[QUOTE

PS Srbenda is what in India?

I think Srbinda is mentioned in Vedic hymns (Rig-veda)to be exact .

by Walter Wust in Uber das Alter des Rgveda und die Hauptfragen der indoarischen Fruhgeschichte in: "Wiener Zeitschrift fur die Kunde des Morgenlandes" (WZKM), Band 34, s.165-215":
http://srbinda.narod.ru/
as for toponyms
http://www.dodaj.rs/f/46/nF/2ygpwEGH/download-1.jpg[/QUOTE]

Brate, no need to have answered, the ancient Chipetars from 1043AD know all the answers! Superior Chipetars they are!

[Mehmet]

What does it mean by Turk?

Native Anatolian?
Then Serbs could actually have more than Boshnaks as Orthodox Christian native Anatolian Armenian population movements took place toward Serbia, back at Ottoman times.
If it's Turanid, then Boshnaks would be more; and it's not only Turks it's also Islamized Hungarians having had to leave Hungary for Bosnia, when Ottomans returned from Vienna gates

[Sorab]

You might have those 2 loyal lapdogs now, but Bosniaks will get their representatives soon enough :)
Loyalty, you can dream of that.
Remember how loyal Kosovo was acording to Serb lapdogs there.
Sandzak will join Bosnia sooner or later, since that is the only way to protect their interests.
Serbs can then go and live in Raska
You cant compare Muslim rejects from Montenegro that settled Raška after "istraga poturica " with Albanians .Albanians are much more organized tribal people and were never loyal from the moment they came from their mountains except minority of them who were living in Kosovo earlier .Muslims in Raška are divided and most i met and spoke to irl were pro Serbian .Some of them even knew which was their family patron saint .So Raška being a part of Bosnia is nothing more but wet dream .

[RandoBloom]

You cant compare Muslim rejects from Montenegro that settled Raška after "istraga poturica " with Albanians .Albanians are much more organized tribal people and were never loyal from the moment they came from their mountains except minority of them who were living in Kosovo earlier .Muslims in Raška are divided and most i met and spoke to irl were pro Serbian .Some of them even knew which was their family patron saint .So Raška being a part of Bosnia is nothing more but wet dream .

Read the reports about Kosovo given by Serbia's loyal Albanian lapdogs, about how much Kosovo loves Belgrade etc.
We saw how that ended. You still use policy of lapdogs, who will tell you what you want rather than how it is. Not that it bothers me, its actualy better since it speeds up the process.
Again, I dont care for Rashka, nor do I want it as part of Bosnia. I want Trgoviste, Hum or Sandzak, take your pick.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Again, I dont care for Rashka, nor do I want it as part of Bosnia. I want Trgoviste, Hum or Sandzak, take your pick.

There is nothing to pick Baljia geek. You're no one to demand anything online but my dick. And that you may be lucky to get.

[RandoBloom]

There is nothing to pick Baljia geek. You're no one to demand anything online but my dick. And that you may be lucky to get.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/1459818_544301955637847_1690927812_n.jpg

[Hevo]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/1459818_544301955637847_1690927812_n.jpg

Looks like it's an outdated study.

However, haplogroups are useful to track distant ancestry and population migrations which does not correlate with physical appearance. The more accurate genetic similarities are provided by autosomal data which is based on 22 chromosomes. Y-DNA haplogroup is only a marker in a male sex Y chromosome. Search for autosomal DNA charts for comparisons in the future.

[Minesweeper]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/1459818_544301955637847_1690927812_n.jpg

HG-2 is an old name for haplogroup I you stupid balija.

http://www.roperld.com/graphics/HG2.jpg

[RandoBloom]

Looks like it's an outdated study.

However, haplogroups are useful to track distant ancestry and population migrations which does not correlate with physical appearance. The more accurate genetic similarities are provided by autosomal data which is based on 22 chromosomes. Y-DNA haplogroup is only a marker in a male sex Y chromosome. Search for autosomal DNA charts for comparisons in the future.

Genes dont outdate.


HG-2 is an old name for haplogroup I you stupid balija.

http://www.roperld.com/graphics/HG2.jpg

Look look, why you so hostile. It tells you right there who are your closest populations, Bulgarians, Romanians, Armenians and Turks :laugh:

[Minesweeper]

Now what, you will start arguing with me instead of accepting facts?

No, you won't. Thread closed.

[RandoBloom]

Now what, you will start arguing with me instead of accepting facts?

No, you won't. Thread closed.

Thread opened. You have no right to close threads just because you dont agree with facts that Turks are your closest people.

[Linebacker]

This thread could use some kebab removal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIcxqVRLEWI

[KrashNick]

Thread opened. You have no right to close threads just because you dont agree with facts that Turks are your closest people.

Serbs are trying to take our rights even here like they did in Yugoslavia xD

[Linebacker]

Serbs are trying to take our rights even here like they did in Yugoslavia xD

Serbs own your sorry-arses.

[Skerdilaid]

Serbs own your sorry-arses.

Qe pasa Turcine?

[LightHouse89]

What does it mean by Turk?

Native Anatolian?
Then Serbs could actually have more than Boshnaks as Orthodox Christian native Anatolian Armenian population movements took place toward Serbia, back at Ottoman times.
If it's Turanid, then Boshnaks would be more; and it's not only Turks it's also Islamized Hungarians having had to leave Hungary for Bosnia, when Ottomans returned from Vienna gates

A army of Arnolds turned the Turks away I think.