Does Chuvash=Jewish Khazar

[JQP4545]

Just back some results and they say 7% Chuvash and 12% Spanish Valencia. I'm just wondering if this equals Jewish ancestry as my mother doesn't have ancestors from either of those regions. Would Chuvash be Khazar and Valencia be Sephardic?

[Kiyant]

Just back some results and they say 7% Chuvash and 12% Spanish Valencia. I'm just wondering if this equals Jewish ancestry as my mother doesn't have ancestors from either of those regions. Would Chuvash be Khazar and Valencia be Sephardic?

Chuvash are Bulgar Turkics so no it wouldnt be Khazar i think the only ones who can/could be Khazars are the Karaim Turkics

[JQP4545]

Chuvash are Bulgar Turkics so no it wouldnt be Khazar i think the only ones who can/could be Khazars are the Karaim Turkics

So where could Chuvash come from in a person who is Irish, German, and French?

[Kiyant]

So where could Chuvash come from in a person who is Irish, German, and French?

Maybe you had in your german part a russian ancestor who was a russified chuvash or partly chuvash

[JQP4545]

Maybe you had in your german part a russian ancestor who was a russified chuvash or partly chuvash

Interesting there is a surname "Reusch" on my German side. It means "the Russian".

[Anatolian Eagle]

It is noteable that Chuvash langauge is the sole survivor of Oghur languages, of which Khazar language also once belonged to. But I think they still are not the same, but related.

[Cleitus]

Interesting there is a surname "Reusch" on my German side. It means "the Russian".

No it doesnt.

[JQP4545]

No it doesnt.
http://www.houseofnames.com/Reusch-history?A=54323-292

"This name roughly translated as The Russian"

[Cleitus]

http://www.houseofnames.com/Reusch-history?A=54323-292

"This name roughly translated as The Russian"
I speak German and its Just a Name it doesnt have a meaning.

[Longbowman]

I doubt it. Could just be noise anyway. Does your family have a lot of Sephardic ancestry? Because I'm over 1/8 Sephardic and it comes up as 'Sephardic' in most iterations (except the ones that don't think I have any Sephardic ancestry but the inaccuracy of GEDmatch is another thing :rolleyes:). What is common is that calculators give you a related ancestry for a real ancestry: IE, you're 75% Sicilian but they say you're 70% South Italian and 5% Greek or whatever. Don't buy in to its accuracy 100%. Mainly focus on the regions your ancestry is said to come from and the Oracle and Oracle4 results (focus on distances between you and the standard populations too).

[Anglojew]

I'm beginning to think yes it does. I'm trying to find "smoking gun" evidence though.

[Hanibalas Lekteris]

I'm beginning to think yes it does. I'm trying to find "smoking gun" evidence though.

Nothing really suggest that, the only true link they have in common is that they speak a language hailing from the same branch of Turkic.

[Anglojew]

Nothing really suggest that, the only true link they have in common is that they speak a language hailing from the same branch of Turkic.

Do you know anything about Chuvash haplogroups?

[Longbowman]

Nothing really suggest that, the only true link they have in common is that they speak a language hailing from the same branch of Turkic.

Another case of people mistaking linguistic affiliation for blood relation.

[Hanibalas Lekteris]

Do you know anything about Chuvash haplogroups?

Not much, unfortunately... I do know they have high amounts of J2 though, and if this turns out to be M67 then you could fairly suppose that some of it has to do with the Khazars (after all, they ruled over Ingushetia & Chechnya which have the highest J2-M67 frequencies out there).

[Black Wolf]

We will never know really most likely.

[Anglojew]

Not much, unfortunately... I do know they have high amounts of J2 though, and if this turns out to be M67 then you could fairly suppose that some of it has to do with the Khazars (after all, they ruled over Ingushetia & Chechnya which have the highest J2-M67 frequencies out there).

Do you know if there's any YDNA Q Chuvash?

[Hanibalas Lekteris]

Do you know if there's any YDNA Q Chuvash?

I wouldn't exactly be surprised if there were... But again, the Khazar link would need aDNA to be confirmed, and I'm not aware of any Khazar remains being tested right now.

[Anglojew]

I wouldn't exactly be surprised if there were... But again, the Khazar link would need aDNA to be confirmed, and I'm not aware of any Khazar remains being tested right now.

I've had a quick look but can't find a complete list of Chuvash YDNA Haplogroups. The samples tested are very small too.

http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/60_Genetics/ChuvashY_DNA.gif

If there are Q1b Chuvashs this will be "smoking gun" evidence that they are descended/related to Khazars and the origin of some Ashkenazi (and Karaite) Jews.

[Hanibalas Lekteris]

I've had a quick look but can't find a complete list of Chuvash YDNA Haplogroups. The samples tested are very small too.

http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/60_Genetics/ChuvashY_DNA.gif

If there are Q1b Chuvashs this will be "smoking gun" evidence that they are descended/related to Khazars and the origin of some Ashkenazi (and Karaite) Jews.

There's a lot of R1a, my hunch is that it's mostly Z94... And Khazars were Rabbinical Jews, not Karaites.