View Full Version : USC admixCalc, GPS Tool and reAdmix^2
Not a Cop
01-25-2015, 12:37 PM
University of Southern California’s Geographic Population Structure Prediction tool.
This tool has 3 options:
1st is Positioning you on google maps.
2nd models you as a mixture of 2 populations, also shows them on google maps.
3rd Models you as a mixture of various populations.
How to use:
1. Register here : http://chcb.saban-chla.usc.edu/admixCalc/index.php/home
2. Upload your raw data and calculate (takes a couple minutes).
3. Enter your results here (http://chcb.saban-chla.usc.edu/gps/index.php) choose the option you want to know and enjoy your results.
Not a Cop
01-25-2015, 12:38 PM
My results:
http://s018.radikal.ru/i521/1501/5d/5718427346fc.png (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s017.radikal.ru/i407/1501/b6/66b0cf95f9ce.png (http://www.radikal.ru)[/QUOTE]
Jackson
01-25-2015, 03:31 PM
First one kinda makes sense for you i guess, gets the Russian and German, are the proportions correct?
Not a Cop
01-25-2015, 03:39 PM
First one kinda makes sense for you i guess, gets the Russian and German, are the proportions correct?
Proportions on pic are drawn by me, i'm still unsure if i'm 1\4 or 1\8. But mapping is more or less correct i think. The two pops method don't catch either of my sides, but considering that N. Russians are close to Finns and Germans to Norwegians it makes sense, at least in general direction.
Jackson
01-25-2015, 03:51 PM
I got 'Luxembourgish' which is kinda close, although it put me in central-eastern France, which doesn't seem to make sense.
For K=9
Component 1 0.000014
Component 2 0.409473
Component 3 0.000014
Component 4 0.230946
Component 5 0.024814
Component 6 0.000010
Component 7 0.009111
Component 8 0.325607
Component 9 0.000010
Jackson
01-25-2015, 03:52 PM
Is it possible to select two or more populations within Europe? Seems that you can only select from different continents...
Edit: Nevermind, holding down ctrl does the trick. :)
Not a Cop
01-25-2015, 03:59 PM
Is it possible to select two or more populations within Europe? Seems that you can only select from different continents...
Edit: Nevermind, holding down ctrl does the trick. :)
Try not to select any pops or select some East-Asian and Unconfident, this way calc will be less biased.
What's your GPS btw?
Jackson
01-25-2015, 04:09 PM
And for my Grandfather his closest population was Belgian, and yet the GPS points into the middle of the north sea...I'm not sure how accurate this is.
Jackson
01-25-2015, 04:13 PM
Ah, managed to get the two population one working, for my Grandfather the two populations are Frisian and Bulgarian. For me the two populations are Luxembourgish and Bavarian. For the GPS it assigned me as Luxembourgish and my Grandfather as Belgian. I'll do more family members shortly.
Hmmm it lands me in deep South Serbia, Leskovac heh:p. On23andme and GEDmatch I cluster with Hungarians, but here my distant Greek/Serb ancestry dragged me southeast I think. Cool tool anyway
http://i.imgur.com/R2uHfrE.png
Jackson
01-25-2015, 04:29 PM
Ok i did what you suggested, i get 88.7% Bavarian, 6.5% Abkhazian and 4.8% Swedish.
My Grandfather gets 78.8% Bavarian, 16.6% Tuscan and 4.6% Abkhazian. That doesn't really make sense as he is always to the north-east of me.
Graham
01-25-2015, 04:31 PM
I got 'Luxembourgish' which is kinda close, although it put me in central-eastern France, which doesn't seem to make sense.
For K=9
Component 1 0.000014
Component 2 0.409473
Component 3 0.000014
Component 4 0.230946
Component 5 0.024814
Component 6 0.000010
Component 7 0.009111
Component 8 0.325607
Component 9 0.000010
It nearly makes sense, if you compare it to what you get on Eurogenes. Though at bit more Med.
Stanley
01-25-2015, 04:33 PM
Wait, which component's which when you enter it into the GPS tool?
Jackson
01-25-2015, 04:40 PM
It nearly makes sense, if you compare it to what you get on Eurogenes. Though at bit more Med.
Yeah it's close, the GPS is not far off, although the markers are. Luxembourg and Belgium are not too far away.
Not a Cop
01-25-2015, 04:42 PM
Wait, which component's which when you enter it into the GPS tool?
First you do 1st column, than second
Not a Cop
01-25-2015, 05:00 PM
Yeah it's close, the GPS is not far off, although the markers are. Luxembourg and Belgium are not too far away.
Could you please also share coordinates? I've had an idea of putting apricians on the map.
Stanley
01-25-2015, 05:04 PM
I'm getting Ruthenian, then for two populations Highland Scottish + Bosniak.
Did I do this right? Jackson's components aren't too far away from mine, yet we plot wildly different.
For K=9
Component 1 0.000014
Component 2 0.409473
Component 3 0.000014
Component 4 0.230946
Component 5 0.024814
Component 6 0.000010
Component 7 0.009111
Component 8 0.325607
Component 9 0.000010
For K=9
Component 1 0.015594
Component 2 0.391891
Component 3 0.000010
Component 4 0.239127
Component 5 0.022805
Component 6 0.000010
Component 7 0.000466
Component 8 0.330087
Component 9 0.000010
Oneeye
01-25-2015, 05:16 PM
Component 1
0.000010
Component 2
0.424387
Component 3
0.000010
Component 4
0.205226
Component 5
0.025228
Component 6
0.009730
Component 7
0.000010
Component 8
0.335389
Component 9
0.000010
Jackson
01-25-2015, 05:23 PM
I'm getting Ruthenian, then for two populations Highland Scottish + Bosniak.
Did I do this right? Jackson's components aren't too far away from mine, yet we plot wildly different.
For K=9
Component 1 0.015594
Component 2 0.391891
Component 3 0.000010
Component 4 0.239127
Component 5 0.022805
Component 6 0.000010
Component 7 0.000466
Component 8 0.330087
Component 9 0.000010
Component 2 is Mediterranean, 4 is Southwest Asian and 8 is Northern European, if those are in the right order the rest should be.
Graham
01-25-2015, 05:23 PM
Based on the data that you have entered our tool computed your closest population to the British region.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=54578&d=1422210167http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=54577&d=1422210167
Jackson
01-25-2015, 05:25 PM
Interesting how i get like 2.5% North American, random.
Stanley
01-25-2015, 05:33 PM
Component 2 is Mediterranean, 4 is Southwest Asian and 8 is Northern European, if those are in the right order the rest should be.
Okay then yeah, I'm definitely doing it right.
I'll try this out with my relatives' data later and post the maps.
Oneeye
01-25-2015, 05:42 PM
http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u399/hammer1115/th_Screenshot3_zpseae76406.png
I also get "Luxembourgish"
Highlands
01-25-2015, 05:51 PM
"Based on the data that you have entered our tool computed your closest population to the Ashkenazy Jews G region."
Lol
Oneeye
01-25-2015, 06:10 PM
The rest is pretty odd. With the 2 pops, I get Ruthenian and French Basque, and with the multi-deal without giving any ancestry data, I get 100% Iberian. Viva Espana!
Jackson
01-25-2015, 06:17 PM
The rest is pretty odd. With the 2 pops, I get Ruthenian and French Basque, and with the multi-deal without giving any ancestry data, I get 100% Iberian. Viva Espana!
Gotta stay true to your Luxembourgish roots!
Proctor
01-25-2015, 06:17 PM
"Based on the data that you have entered our tool computed your closest population to the Swiss region. "
With the 2 populations I get Scottish highlands and Basque.
Thanks for sharing.
Unfortunately, it is far from reliable, based on my on results, and some other results I found online.
For instance, one Spanish guy's results I saw plotted him in Greece, while his ancestry is 100% Galicia (northwest Iberia).
ChocolateFace
01-25-2015, 06:43 PM
Seems like bs
Highlands
01-25-2015, 06:46 PM
# Population Name Latitude Longitude
Ancestral Route 1 Tuscan_2 43 11
Ancestral Route 2 Lebanese_0 33.85 35.86
Casandrinos
01-25-2015, 06:48 PM
Seems lame
Graham
01-25-2015, 07:37 PM
Dad
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=54581&d=1422217070
Mum
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=54582&d=1422218189
SwampThing26
01-25-2015, 07:56 PM
It put me in Bavaria west of Munich on the map for the single and for the two ancestry mix it put one in Eastern France right on the border and one right above Munich.
Pfeifer
01-25-2015, 08:13 PM
I'm having problems to calculate my raw data. I'm trying to download the same zip file I used in gedmatch but its not working....
Its writen " upload your genotype file in TEXT format.". What the is this?
Graham
01-25-2015, 08:24 PM
I'm having problems to calculate my raw data. I'm trying to download the same zip file I used in gedmatch but its not working....
Its writen " upload your genotype file in TEXT format.". What the is this?
'Unzip' your raw data into Text format.
Jackson
01-25-2015, 08:27 PM
Me:
Based on the data that you have entered our tool computed your closest population to the Luxembourgish region.
Calculated Latitude of Origin: 48.1701
Calculated Longitude of Origin: 4.98382
Father:
Based on the data that you have entered our tool computed your closest population to the Bavarian region.
Calculated Latitude of Origin: 49.7111
Calculated Longitude of Origin: 9.43629
Grandfather:
Based on the data that you have entered our tool computed your closest population to the Belgian region.
Calculated Latitude of Origin: 56.4736
Calculated Longitude of Origin: 4.4313
Grandmother:
Based on the data that you have entered our tool computed your closest population to the Belgian region.
Calculated Latitude of Origin: 56.6959
Calculated Longitude of Origin: 4.4306
Mother:
Based on the data that you have entered our tool computed your closest population to the Luxembourgish region.
Calculated Latitude of Origin: 49.0288
Calculated Longitude of Origin: 7.0515
Aunt:
Based on the data that you have entered our tool computed your closest population to the Bavarian region.
Calculated Latitude of Origin: 48.5318
Calculated Longitude of Origin: 10.0866
Jackson
01-25-2015, 08:37 PM
Not very good at all, grandparents are yellow and green, father is light blue, i'm red, mother is purple and aunt is brown:
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/Brodir93/GPS1.png
Proctor
01-25-2015, 09:19 PM
Not very good at all, grandparents are yellow and green, father is light blue, i'm red, mother is purple and aunt is brown:
I think we should just give them some time, they're just starting out, they should improve from this point forward, and they offer their services for free, I think it's alright.
Jackson
01-25-2015, 09:22 PM
I think we should just give them some time, they're just starting out, they should improve from this point forward, and they offer their services for free, I think it's alright.
Oh the concept is very good, but it's got a way to go it seems. I'm glad that they've done it, of course.
Mazik
01-25-2015, 09:43 PM
I got Latvian as my best match and my grandfather got Chuvash.
Stanley
01-25-2015, 09:50 PM
Me + family all get:
"Based on the data that you have entered our tool computed your closest population to the Ruthenian region,"
...with tiny differences in latitude/longitude coordinates.
Two populations: me, brother, dad get Highland Scottish + Bosniak; sister, Ruthenian + Highland Scottish
So, yeah..
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee427/JH9020/map_zps5af974b7.png
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee427/JH9020/map2_zpsbe664125.png
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee427/JH9020/components_zps5c126e5e.png
Patches
01-26-2015, 12:28 AM
My Results (Updated):
http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p535/PureEvil91/uscgene23_zps10939f90.png (http://s1154.photobucket.com/user/PureEvil91/media/uscgene23_zps10939f90.png.html)
http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p535/PureEvil91/uscgene_zps8e373a1c.png (http://s1154.photobucket.com/user/PureEvil91/media/uscgene_zps8e373a1c.png.html)
http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p535/PureEvil91/twopop2_zps65f11f15.png (http://s1154.photobucket.com/user/PureEvil91/media/twopop2_zps65f11f15.png.html)
Pjeter Pan
01-26-2015, 02:01 AM
For K=9
Component 1 0.000010
Component 2 0.591978
Component 3 0.000010
Component 4 0.234102
Component 5 0.015049
Component 6 0.000010
Component 7 0.008018
Component 8 0.150812
Component 9 0.000010
Based on the data that you have entered our tool computed your closest population to the Ashkenazy Jews G region
http://i57.tinypic.com/2j3pkk4.png
Pjeter Pan
01-26-2015, 02:02 AM
im a fucking kike! :(
Raven_
01-26-2015, 12:51 PM
http://i62.tinypic.com/2rwark7.jpg
They guess my ancestry correctly in one pop mode.
7eleven
02-03-2015, 06:19 PM
Im placed in Greece and my mom in northern part of Lebanon.
7eleven
02-03-2015, 07:30 PM
My mothers results:
Ancestral Route 1Lebanese_Batroun_Christian_034.24983235.66429
Ancestral Route 2Cypriot_035.1233.42
7eleven
02-17-2015, 12:05 AM
WTF
Population Name Latitude Longitude
Ancestral Route 1 Tuscan_2 43 11
Ancestral Route 2 Ingush_0 40.61 44.895
Based on the data that you have entered our tool computed your closest population to the Ashkenazy Jews G region.
http://puu.sh/gcWBR/08dcbd091c.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Zmk4BxN.png
Alessio
02-26-2015, 01:51 AM
I see
Alessio
02-26-2015, 02:09 AM
It takes ages man..
Alessio
02-26-2015, 02:30 AM
It's still running after 15 minutes..:worried1:
Mortimer
02-26-2015, 02:32 AM
wanted to say the same takes ages
Alessio
02-26-2015, 02:35 AM
wanted to say the same takes ages
It's because we're ''extranjeros''.
It's worse than GEDmatch was before recovery.
Alessio
02-26-2015, 02:41 AM
Just log out and then log in again.
Alessio
02-26-2015, 02:53 AM
http://s20.postimg.org/8efgw26fd/Untitled.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/8efgw26fd/)
Based on the data that you have entered our tool computed your closest population to the Greek region.
Calculated Latitude of Origin: 38.8893
Calculated Longitude of Origin: 21.1599
For K=9
Component 1
0.004619
Component 2
0.528059
Component 3
0.000010
Component 4
0.233819
Component 5
0.001055
Component 6
0.000010
Component 7
0.000010
Component 8
0.232408
Component 9
0.000010
Mortimer
02-26-2015, 03:08 AM
Based on your admixture composition, we found the following ancestral populations
# Population Name Latitude Longitude
Ancestral Route 1 Romanian_2 45.94 24.96
Ancestral Route 2 Italian (South)_0 40.75 14.49
Alessio
02-26-2015, 03:08 AM
Dad
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=54581&d=1422217070
Mum
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=54582&d=1422218189
Didn't knew you were a sea mermaid :tongue
Mortimer
02-26-2015, 03:09 AM
For K=9
Component 10.011355
Component 20.475550
Component 30.000012
Component 40.335556
Component 50.007828
Component 60.000010
Component 70.076456
Component 80.093223
Component 90.000010
now i try the very mixed and selected punjabi and serbian first i tried the two populations which gave me romanian and italian but thats wrong
Mortimer
02-26-2015, 03:14 AM
now i got ashkenazy jews lol
Based on your data input, your most likely ancestral composition consists of 1 population(s)/sub-population(s). Relative contributions are displayed below.
Population/Sub-population Common country for this population/sub-population Ancestral composition
Ashkenazy Jews P_0 Poland 0%
but why 0% is that not a contradiction
Alessio
02-26-2015, 03:15 AM
For K=9
Component 10.011355
Component 20.475550
Component 30.000012
Component 40.335556
Component 50.007828
Component 60.000010
Component 70.076456
Component 80.093223
Component 90.000010
now i try the very mixed and selected punjabi and serbian first i tried the two populations which gave me romanian and italian but thats wrong
:picard1:
Mortimer
02-26-2015, 03:17 AM
on GPS i get persian
GPS Calculation
Based on the data that you have entered our tool computed your closest population to the Persian region.
Calculated Latitude of Origin: 38.4105
Calculated Longitude of Origin: 48.0257
The region is marked on the map below as markers.
Nurzat
02-26-2015, 10:06 PM
it gave me Bulgaria and on two nationalities mode it gave Bulgarian/Bosniak. it has a lag that puts you more to the East and more to the South on the map. that's why Brits get Luxembourg
on Doug McDonald's map I've got both dots in Austria (Oberoesterreich and Burgenland) and on Eurogenes' DIY I've got both dots in Austria again (Oberoesterreich)
Alessio
02-26-2015, 10:10 PM
The other (http://chcb.saban-chla.usc.edu/gps/index.php) link.
Alessio
02-26-2015, 10:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrJMYCroThw
This tool is garbage though from what I've seen at this moment.
Alessio
02-26-2015, 10:19 PM
it gave me Bulgaria and on two nationalities mode it gave Bulgarian/Bosniak. it has a lag that puts you more to the East and more to the South on the map. that's why Brits get Luxembourg
on Doug McDonald's map I've got both dots in Austria (Oberoesterreich and Burgenland) and on Eurogenes' DIY I've got both dots in Austria again (Oberoesterreich)
''it has a lag that puts you more to the East and more to the South on the map''
Exactly and in my case ''South East''
firemonkey
03-05-2015, 05:51 AM
.
For K=9
Component 1
0.006941
Component 2
0.377743
Component 3
0.036906
Component 4
0.188921
Component 5
0.050700
Component 6
0.003088
Component 7
0.017690
Component 8
0.318001
Component 9
0.000010
firemonkey
03-05-2015, 06:53 AM
copied and pasta data in order given in my previous post to readmix gps tool and got
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labile/gps%20calculation.png
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labile/gps%20map.png
My known ancestry is English,Scottish, and Irish!! I know I was born in the Belgium Congo (my father was a junior British diplomat then) but it's patently ridiculous!!
firemonkey
03-05-2015, 08:40 AM
I then did the tool where you can choose several populations and chose British , Irish, Scottish(known ancestry) Welsh( have ancestor born in Wales but not sure if Welsh) Scandinavian(30% according to My origins) and lastly the BiakaPygmy that the GPS tool had given.
This gave http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labile/ancestral%20composition.png
BiakaPygmy_3 Central African Republic 79.9%
firemonkey
03-05-2015, 06:53 PM
Using ftdna autosomal instead of geno 2 was far more accurate.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labile/gps%20calculation%20ftdna.png
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labile/gps%20map%20ftdna.png
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