Are most Turks genetically closer to Bulgarians or to Afghans

[Myanthropologies]

I've always wondered how Turks and Afghans compared. They both have some of the highest levels of European influence in that whole Islamic world "MENA" region (along with maybe some isolated berber tribes), but the difference seems to be that Turks are sligtly mixed with some SW Asian, and Afghans are slightly mixed with some South Asian. Turks also seem to have a lot more of that Natufian stuff, too.

This question just interested me. Turks have shared ancestry with Balkanic, and I assume they may have some shared ancestry with Afghans too, so I was wondering how they compare. Despite all the hate on this site, you have to admit that Turks are cool people.

This question isn't meant to offend anyone, I'm just genuinely curious.

[wvwvw]

Afghans share ancestry with Pakistanis and North Indians

[Myanthropologies]

Afghans share ancestry with Pakistanis and North Indians

Indeed, they do. But this question is about something else.

[wvwvw]

Indeed, they do. But this question is about something else.

You look closer to Indo-Jatts

[pelikarski]

Maybe to Bulgarians

[Myanthropologies]

Maybe to Bulgarians

Im not sure, because they seem to be genetically close to Iranians, and there is no way Iranians are closer to Bulgarians than to Afghans, but then again idk.

[Myanthropologies]

You look closer to Indo-Jatts

Some do, most don't. Me personally am too pale for even turkey and greece.

[Pennywise]

And I was wondering which retard could ask such a stupid question. Annnd got my answer. Bye.

[Trojka]

Thread made by some self hating Paki/afghan...

[Sikeliot]

Balkan in general.

[Myanthropologies]

Balkan in general.

Are you sure that's true of most turks?

[Myanthropologies]

Thread made by some self hating Paki/afghan...

I'm not a Pakistani or a self hater, you fake slav.

[wvwvw]

Indeed, they do. But this question is about something else.

So your question is whether you're closer to Euros or West asians. Neither.

[Myanthropologies]

So your question is whether you're closer to Euros or West asians. Neither.

No, that's not the question at all, clearly. It's asking if Turks are closer to Bulgarians or Afghans. Do you need to be read to slowly with basic words or something? Because you've been taking the question highly out for context.

[Böri]

Turks have Turkmens from far North Afghanistan in their cluster list sometimes but never Pashtuns.

Afghan Turkmens
Bulgarians
Pashtuns

This order. Pashtuns are Indo-Iranians. They look quite brown for most. Sort of East Kurds, Indo-Iranics.

[Myanthropologies]

Turks have Turkmens from far North Afghanistan in their cluster list sometimes but never Pashtuns.

Afghan Turkmens
Bulgarians
Pashtuns

This order. Pashtuns are Indo-Iranians. They look quite brown for most. Sort of East Kurds, Indo-Iranics.

Afghan turkmens are far closer to pashtuns genetically than to anatolian turks, so your statement makes no sense. Turks are brown, too.

[Linebacker]

Turks are closest to South Asians

[Myanthropologies]

Turks are closest to South Asians

Afghans aren't "south asian."

[Myanthropologies]

I personally think that most Turks are genetically closer to Afghans than to Bulgarians, because on most pcas, Turks cluster near Iranians. So if you're saying Turks are closer to Bulgarians than to Afghans, you're also saying that Iranians are closer to Bulgarians than to Afghans, and that's just lol tier.

But I've never seen a PCA plot with all three populations (afghans pashtuns and pathans are not the same thing on pca plots).

[Böri]

Afghan turkmens are far closer to pashtuns genetically than to anatolian turks, so your statement makes no sense. Turks are brown, too.

OWDer Paki, have a look at world skin color map. Pashtuns like most of Iran and good part of Kurds they are in the same brown shade zone as North Pakistan. Turks are neither white nor brown wholly.

[Danishmend]

Both of those 2 populations are quite distant, but Bulgarians are closer.

[Trojka]

This scizophrenic troll called "myanthropologies" thinks himself equally white as Ashkenazi jews. I think we should show his place and send back him to the shithole he came from.

[Myanthropologies]

OWDer Paki, have a look at world skin color map. Pashtuns like most of Iran and good part of Kurds they are in the same brown shade zone as North Pakistan. Turks are neither white nor brown wholly.

Skin color maps are stupid. They or edit you to be the same skin color as the Porteguese, and we all know that stupid. And lol, they make Norwegians look dark even though they're some of the whitest people ever.

Afghans aren't brown or white either. Don't call me a Pakistani again, you ignorant bafoon. I'm not OWD with Turks, Turks aren't even white!!! Besides, I pass in countries far whiter looking than turkey.

[Myanthropologies]

This scizophrenic troll called "myanthropologies" thinks himself equally white as Ashkenazi jews. I think we should show his place and send back him to the shithole he came from.

You stupid slav wannabe, I never said that, I just ashkenazis aren't white, because they're not, and what afghans are aren't going to change what ashkenazis are. Ashkenazis are are hardly even near whites, they're near sicilians who uses to be mena themselves and are loaded with swarthy east med stuff.

Ypure clearly jealous which is ehh you have "steppid" in your thing even though I gave more connections to the steepe than you ever wikl, balkanigger.

You can't so shit to me. Your countries are shithole too. I'm american and my country is 100x better than yours. If you came here and tried to do something to me, you'd be arrested and banned from America forever, because I'm an american and you're from some shithole.

[Norka]

You stupid slav wannabe, I never said that, I just ashkenazis aren't white, because they're not, and what afghans are aren't going to change what ashkenazis are. Ashkenazis are are hardly even near whites, they're near sicilians who uses to be mena themselves and are loaded with swarthy east med stuff.

Ypure clearly jealous which is ehh you have "steppid" in your thing even though I gave more connections to the steepe than you ever wikl, balkanigger.

You can't so shit to me. Your countries are shithole too. I'm american and my country is 100x better than yours. If you came here and tried to do something to me, you'd be arrested and banned from America forever, because I'm an american and you're from some shithole.

MyAnthropologies you are a gypsy Churka boy. All real slavs you call slav wannabes you are one of the most OWD members on here. :laugh: You called me mongolian even after seeing my genetic tests.

[Trojka]

You stupid slav wannabe, I never said that, I just ashkenazis aren't white, because they're not, and what afghans are aren't going to change what ashkenazis are. Ashkenazis are are hardly even near whites, they're near sicilians who uses to be mena themselves and are loaded with swarthy east med stuff.

Ypure clearly jealous which is ehh you have "steppid" in your thing even though I gave more connections to the steepe than you ever wikl, balkanigger.

You can't so shit to me. Your countries are shithole too. I'm american and my country is 100x better than yours. If you came here and tried to do something to me, you'd be arrested and banned from America forever, because I'm an american and you're from some shithole.

Keep talking

[Pahli]

To Bulgarians obviously

And to OWDickness, show us your swarthy brown face instead of playing expert on other people you subhuman piece of shit.

[Myanthropologies]

To Bulgarians obviously

And to OWDickness, show us your swarthy brown face instead of playing expert on other people you subhuman piece of shit.

How to Bulgarians obviously? I think they're closer to Afghans because they cluster very close to Iranians and Iranians are not closer to Bulgarians lol.

The answer actually is afghans and I have pcas to prove it, I just also wanted to prove the owdness of some members who think they're closer to Bulgarians.

[Halgurd]

To Bulgarians obviously

And to OWDickness, show us your swarthy brown face instead of playing expert on other people you subhuman piece of shit.

He's obsessed with Iranics. He hates us cuz he ain't us. He's a fag.

[meisje]

Start with your brown picture ,Monobrow Inbreed Donkey

[Myanthropologies]

Turks can be modeled as half Turkmen and half Greek on average, so I'm really surprised that people answered Bulgarian lol.

[meisje]

To Bulgarians obviously

And to OWDickness, show us your swarthy brown face instead of playing expert on other people you subhuman piece of shit.
Start with your brown picture,Monobrow Inbreed Kurdish Donkey

[Norka]

BROWN TROLL OWD THREAD DETECTED!!!

[Myanthropologies]

MyAnthropologies you are a gypsy Churka boy. All real slavs you call slav wannabes you are one of the most OWD members on here. :laugh: You called me mongolian even after seeing my genetic tests.

You're OWD. All you do is talk about how non mongolian you are. You're like a tatar version of crazydaisy, except you don't make threads showing it. "You're not like other tatars, you're just a weird white russian" lol

[Halgurd]

Start with your brown picture,Monobrow Inbreed Kurdish Donkey

Ur mums a hoe lel haha

[Myanthropologies]

MyAnthropologies you are a gypsy Churka boy. All real slavs you call slav wannabes you are one of the most OWD members on here. :laugh: You called me mongolian even after seeing my genetic tests.

You're OWD. All you do is talk about how non mongolian you are. You're like a tatar version of crazydaisy, except you don't make threads showing it. "You're not like other tatars, you're just a weird white russian" lol

[Pahli]

Start with your brown picture,Monobrow Inbreed Kurdish Donkey

I already did once and numerous members have seen me, what about you little son of a whore from a poor Anatolian village?


He's obsessed with Iranics. He hates us cuz he ain't us. He's a fag.

He talks shit about Indo-Iranics when they are the reason to why Central Asian Turks have significant East Iranian admixture.

[Norka]

You're OWD. All you do is talk about how non mongolian you are. You're like a tatar version of crazydaisy, except you don't make threads showing it. "You're not like other tatars, you're just a weird white russian" lol

Churka watch your mouth you dream of being Russian. I have nothing wrong with my identity I'm proud to be born of the Steppe. I'm proud to be Turkic proud to be Finnic. You are a self hating brown faggot.

[Myanthropologies]

BROWN TROLL OWD THREAD DETECTED!!!

You share culture and langauge with many brown people though, so you're brown by default.

[Myanthropologies]

Churka watch your mouth you dream of being Russian. I have nothing wrong with my identity I'm proud to be born of the Steppe. I'm proud to be Turkic proud to be Finnic. You are a self hating brown faggot.

You've seen what I look like, and I'm clearly not "brown" at all. Where I plot on a PCA doesn't matter in real life, it doesn't matter when I do every day things, and it especially doesn't matter in the country where I live where ethnic identity is something nobody cares about. I obviously dont care about being white or being like Turks because I am 100% content with being afghan ethnically, and I'm whiter than most Turks. I don't even identify as white, and it actually makes some Americans mad, but I don't do it.

[Norka]

You've seen what I look like, and I'm clearly not "brown" at all. Where I plot on a PCA doesn't matter in real life, it doesn't matter when I do every day things, and it especially doesn't matter in the country where I live where ethnic identity is something nobody cares about. I obviously dont care about being white or being like Turks because I am 100% content with being afghan ethnically, and I'm whiter than most Turks. I don't even identify as white, and it actually makes some Americans mad, but I don't do it.

You look just like any gastarbeiter I see in the street.

http://files.gamebanana.com/img/ico/sprays/rj.png

[Myanthropologies]

You look just like any gastarbeiter I see in the street.

http://files.gamebanana.com/img/ico/sprays/rj.png

I don't. You acted stupid in my classification thread saying I look irano-afghan. If I posted in this forum saying I was Bulgarian, nobody would have ever told me "irano-afghan." You can't seem to accept the fact that some "brown gypsies" can pass as locals in your country and bang the women. And you got so insecure when ukranians told me I could pass in Ukraine.

[wvwvw]

That male whore Danishshit is sending me PMs saying he will post Greeks and Turks.

Be my guest gypsy, that doesn't change what I have seen with my own eyes in Turkey.

A SEA of purely middle eastern people.

[Myanthropologies]

This thread just proved the hilarious owdness of some Turks, thinking they are closer to Bulgarians when on average, they are obviously closer to Afghans. Keep calling afghans "brown gypsies" when you're no whiter and get grouped with afghans in any western country.

I have nothing against Turks, they are brilliant, but I am sick of them acting like they're so different from afghans to the extent where theyre closer to euros and balaknics and not OWD.

[Ylla]

Turks can be modeled as half Turkmen and half Greek on average, so I'm really surprised that people answered Bulgarian lol.

You should be suprised for Afghan too. Def closer to Bulgarians though but distinct from both.

[Norka]

I don't. You acted stupid in my classification thread saying I look irano-afghan. If I posted in this forum saying I was Bulgarian, nobody would have ever told me "irano-afghan." You can't seem to accept the fact that some "brown gypsies" can pass as locals in your country and bang the women. And you got so insecure when ukranians told me I could pass in Ukraine.

You are sooo butthurt and self hating that you look pathetic. You look like an average Irano-Afghan Gypsy only girls that will go for you are local sluts who even fuck the local alcoholic. You are like any other gypsy from south asia the faster you grow up and realize you are a brown iranic gypsy the better.

[Myanthropologies]

You should be suprised for Afghan too. Def closer to Bulgarians though but distinct from both.

They aren't closer to Bulgarians, not the average anatolian turk. It's actually hilarious that people think that. Most people on here admit that Turks are very related to iranians, but then they're suddenly closer to Bulgarians than to Afghans? Lol

[Trojka]

This faggot never seems to give up, even when it's already over for him, still keep burning himself.

[Milo]

Some do, most don't. Me personally am too pale for even turkey and greece.

Wait a minute. Are you saying, your pigmentation can be found all the way in Afghanistan, but not in Turkey or Greece??

[Ylla]

This thread just proved the hilarious owdness of some Turks, thinking they are closer to Bulgarians when on average, they are obviously closer to Afghans. Keep calling afghans "brown gypsies" when you're no whiter and get grouped with afghans in any western country.

I have nothing against Turks, they are brilliant, but I am sick of them acting like they're so different from afghans to the extent where theyre closer to euros and balaknics and not OWD.

I notice afghan and pakistan people are suprised if turk feels closer to a balkan person than them why? We are not alien people

[Pahli]

Most Turks are closer to Bulgarians anyway but aren't too far away from Afghans considering their Turkmen ancestry

[Myanthropologies]

You are sooo butthurt and self hating that you look pathetic. You look like an average Irano-Afghan Gypsy only girls that will go for you are local sluts who even fuck the local alcoholic. You are like any other gypsy from south asia the faster you grow up and realize you are a brown iranic gypsy the better.

Show me your face you genetically whitewashed mongol.

[Myanthropologies]

Wait a minute. Are you saying, your pigmentation can be found all the way in Afghanistan, but not in Turkey or Greece??

I'm atypical for all three of those places. Not my skin tone alone, but other factors too obviously.

[Norka]

Show me your face you genetically whitewashed mongol.

I have posted many pictures of myself. Get ready for a PM you brown little churka.

[Halgurd]

Tbh I don't see most Turks as MENA especially since they fight against that identity.

[Milo]

I notice afghan and pakistan people are suprised if turk feels closer to a balkan person than them why? We are not alien people

:rolleyes:
http://www.geopoesia.ru/gp/map/admin/georhymes-map-admin.jpg

[Myanthropologies]

Most Turks are closer to Bulgarians anyway but aren't too far away from Afghans considering their Turkmen ancestry

They aren't, the average turk is definitely closer to the Afghan Pashtun on average. I've already checked pca plots. I just wanted to see what Turks would say. They're modeled as half Greek and half turkmen, obviously they're closer to Afghans.

[Myanthropologies]

I notice afghan and pakistan people are suprised if turk feels closer to a balkan person than them why? We are not alien people

Turks don't feel closer to people from the Balkans lol. I have half Turks in my family. Especially in European countries they're United with afghans through discrimination which Balkanic people obviously don't ever face. Afghanistan is also a highly Turkic country, whereas the balkans are not. Also why group afghans with Pakistanis? I don't understand the ignorance on this forum sometimes.

[Pahli]

They aren't, the average turk is definitely closer to the Afghan Pashtun on average. I've already checked pca plots. I just wanted to see what Turks would say. They're modeled as half Greek and half turkmen, obviously they're closer to Afghans.

You said most Turks, however a lot of Turks have Balkan ancestry which plots them closer to Bulgaria, but its a close call.

[Myanthropologies]

You said most Turks, however a lot of Turks have Balkan ancestry which plots them closer to Bulgaria, but its a close call.

Yes, but the question is most turks. Some balkan blood doesn't make someone plot closer to the balkans. Bulgarians are genetically closer to even Brits than to Turks.

[Ylla]

:rolleyes:
http://www.geopoesia.ru/gp/map/admin/georhymes-map-admin.jpg

Some people think as soon as you cross Turkey everyone listens to Mozart and lives like white americans...

When reality balkan shares culture also with caucasus and cuisines from turkey.

[Pahli]

Yes, but the question is most turks. Some balkan blood doesn't make someone plot closer to the balkans. Bulgarians are genetically closer to even Brits than to Turks.

They actually are closer to Turks than Brits. And yes Balkan blood makes you closer to the chosen population. Example: If I was even 25% Baltic/Slavic I wouldn't cluster with Iranians or Kurds at all.

[Milo]

Some people think as soon as you cross Turkey everyone listens to Mozart and lives like white americans...

When reality balkan shares culture also with caucasus and cuisines from turkey.

because on forums EVROPA is on a different planet :lol:

[Myanthropologies]

They actually are closer to Turks than Brits. And yes Balkan blood makes you closer to the chosen population. If I was 25% Baltic I wouldn't cluster with Iranians or Kurds at all.

Afghans are chunked with baltic stuff, but their south asian pulls then away. Some afghans are even 22% North European and still cluster with other afghans. Some balkan blood doesn't take away sw asian and Turkmen influences.

[Ylla]

Turks don't feel closer to people from the Balkans lol. I have half Turks in my family. Especially in European countries they're United with afghans through discrimination which Balkanic people obviously don't ever face. Afghanistan is also a highly Turkic country, whereas the balkans are not. Also why group afghans with Pakistanis? I don't understand the ignorance on this forum sometimes.

Idk thats for turkish people to comment. :)

[Myanthropologies]

Some people think as soon as you cross Turkey everyone listens to Mozart and lives like white americans...

When reality balkan shares culture also with caucasus and cuisines from turkey.

Nobody is assuming that, but Afghanistan is partially a Turkic country, and Albania is not.

[Halgurd]

This is sucha pointless thread and ppl are getting all emotional over it :laugh:

[Pahli]

Afghans are chunked with baltic stuff, but their south asian pulls then away. Some afghans are even 22% North European and still cluster with other afghans. Some balkan blood doesn't take away sw asian and Turkmen influences.

Not entirely true, even Pamir Tajiks that have up to 25% NE-European are still within the Central Asian sphere and don't really cluster that much closer to Europe than Iranians or Kurds, partly due to South Asian admixture and high CHG admixture and lack of Anatolian_NF.

[Danishmend]

That male whore Danishshit is sending me PMs saying he will post Greeks and Turks.

Be my guest gypsy, that doesn't change what I have seen with my own eyes in Turkey.

You sound hot when you lie and manipulate.
http://i.hizliresim.com/zn1Dz7.png (http://hizliresim.com/zn1Dz7)




This thread just proved the hilarious owdness of some Turks, thinking they are closer to Bulgarians when on average, they are obviously closer to Afghans. Keep calling afghans "brown gypsies" when you're no whiter and get grouped with afghans in any western country.

I have nothing against Turks, they are brilliant, but I am sick of them acting like they're so different from afghans to the extent where theyre closer to euros and balaknics and not OWD.

Both Afghan Pashtuns and Bulgarians are quite distant from Turks, but overall Bulgarians are closer genetically. I also have nothing against Pashtuns.

This is how things work in your threads:

Ask questions
Get answers
Call the person OWD when you don't like his/her answer

[Myanthropologies]

Not entirely true, even Pamir Tajiks that have up to 25% NE-European are still within the Central Asian sphere and don't really cluster that much closer to Europe than Iranians or Kurds, partly due to South Asian admixture and high CHG admixture and lack of Anatolian_NF.

Exactly, and Turks on average are still closer to the middle east and Central Asia because of turkmen and caucasian blood

[Pahli]

Both Afghan Pashtuns and Bulgarians are quite distant from Turks, but overall Bulgarians are closer genetically.

What I've been trying to say the whole time.

[Milo]

Afghans are chunked with baltic stuff, but their south asian pulls then away. Some afghans are even 22% North European and still cluster with other afghans. Some balkan blood doesn't take away sw asian and Turkmen influences.

lol even Jatts and NI brahmins score more NE euro than PAshtoons on harappa. But I don't think those figures are legit.
The highest is Pamiri Tajiks, but not Pashtuuns anyways.

[Mir Masjidi Khan]

They are closer to Bulgarians. Afghans don't really care about Turks anyway but I know many Turks who claim to be from Khorasan which they can't even pronounce and who try to steal Tajik/Afghan history (Rumi was a Turk, Sakas were Oghuz Turks, etc) :picard2:

[Pahli]

Exactly, and Turks on average are still closer to the middle east and Central Asia because of turkmen and caucasian blood

To the Middle Eastern / Caucasus yes, however they are closer to Bulgaria due to Balkan admixture. But like Danishmend said, they are far from both groups, but slightly closer to Bulgarians compared to Afghans.

[Norka]

Why people bother with this Russian wannabe Afghano-Gypsy I never will understand.

[Halgurd]

They are closer to Bulgarians. Afghans don't really care about Turks anyway but I know many Turks who claim to be from Khorasan which they can't even pronounce and who try to steal Tajik/Afghan history (Rumi was a Turk, Sakas were Oghuz Turks, etc) :picard2:

We are Iranic bros

[Mir Masjidi Khan]

lol even Jatts and NI brahmins score more NE euro than PAshtoons on harappa. But I don't think those figures are legit.
The highest is Pamiri Tajiks, but not Pashtuuns anyways.

Not really, there are Ghilzai and Durrani samples who score higher NE Euro than most Brahmins and Jatts.

Pamiris are the closest group to Pashtuns anyway. Now fuck off!

[Trojka]

Afghan Pashtuns have 1.5x more Indian/Bengali ancestry than Balkan gipsyes and 7 times more than Kurds. Their European ancestry is cloe to irrelevant..

35% South Asian lol - Pure Steppe Slavs

Keep bullshitting others about your cherrypicked 1 out of 200 light eyed individuals.

http://janeygak.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/janeygak-dna-2.jpg

[Milo]

Not really, there are Ghilzai and Durrani samples who score higher NE Euro than most Brahmins and Jatts.

Pamiris are the closest group to Pashtuns anyway. Now fuck off!

being the closest group doesn't mean they need to score the same amount of one component

[Milo]

I don't. You acted stupid in my classification thread saying I look irano-afghan. If I posted in this forum saying I was Bulgarian, nobody would have ever told me "irano-afghan." You can't seem to accept the fact that some "brown gypsies" can pass as locals in your country and bang the women. And you got so insecure when ukranians told me I could pass in Ukraine.

why are you so obsessed with passing in Europe? I mean sure you can, but why are you so complexed about it

[Norka]

why are you so obsessed with passing in Europe? I mean sure you can, but why are you so complexed about it

Because he is some ignorant spoilt kid simple. Logic and Brains is not his strong point.

[Danishmend]

They are closer to Bulgarians. Afghans don't really care about Turks anyway but I know many Turks who claim to be from Khorasan
Because that is where Oghuz tribes came from, the Turkish migration was a gradual process.

Seljuk Expansion: Chorasmia --> Khorasan --> Iran --> Transcaucasia --> Asia Minor





which they can't even pronounce
Of course we don't pronounce it as you do, we don't speak Pashto or Tajik.






and who try to steal Tajik/Afghan history (Rumi was a Turk, Sakas were Oghuz Turks, etc) :picard2:

Now I'm sure you are just another sockpuppet.

[Milo]

Now I'm sure you are just another sockpuppet.

probably related to Ross. his name is clearly trollish.

[Mir Masjidi Khan]

being the closest group doesn't mean they need to score the same amount of one component

Many Ghilzais and Durranis score NE Euro at Ishkashimi (a Pamiri group) and Khatloni Tajik levels and higher than Brahmins and Jatts. Pamiris are not homogeneous either :picard2:

[meisje]

I already did once and numerous members have seen me, what about you little son of a whore from a poor Anatolian village?
Retarded Monobrow little Prick ,When your all ancestors were slaves of Uzbeks and Turkmens ,do You think you insult me ,Low IQ Refugee scum, Kurds have some Turkic genes due to Turkish rape to Kurdish Slave Whores


He talks shit about Indo-Iranics when they are the reason to why Central Asian Turks have significant East Iranian admixture.

[Milo]

Many Ghilzais and Durranis score NE Euro at Ishkashimi (a Pamiri group) and Khatloni Tajik levels and higher than Brahmins and Jatts. Pamiris are not homogeneous either :picard2:

3 posts and you're already thumbing people down.
chutiya troll

[Mir Masjidi Khan]

Because that is where Oghuz tribes came from, the Turkish migration was a gradual process.

Seljuk Expansion: Chorasmia --> Khorasan --> Iran --> Transcaucasia --> Asia Minor




Of course we don't pronounce it like you do as we don't speak Pashto or Tajik.






Now I'm sure you are just another sockpuppet.

Yes, the Seljuqs were civilized by the Iranic population of Khorasan (Tajiks and Pashtuns) yet we have a bunch of Turks disrespecting the esteemed MyAnthro here. Apologize to him or else

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nizam_al-Mulk

^This guy ran the Seljuq empire basically, kek.

[meisje]

[QUOTE=Parthian Kastrioti;3969452]I already did once and numerous members have seen me, what about you little son of a whore from a poor Anatolian village?
Retarded Monobrow little Prick ,When your all ancestors were slaves of Uzbeks and Turkmens ,do You think you insult me ,Low IQ Refugee scum, Kurds have some Turkic genes due to Turkish rape to Kurdish Slave Whores

[Danishmend]

Yes, the Seljuqs were civilized by the Iranic population of Khorasan (Tajiks and Pashtuns) yet we have a bunch of Turks disrespecting the esteemed MyAnthro here. Apologize to him or else

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nizam_al-Mulk

^This guy ran the Seljuq empire basically, kek.


You are a kıro sockpuppet. It is so obvious.

[Norka]

Yes, the Seljuqs were civilized by the Iranic population of Khorasan (Tajiks and Pashtuns) yet we have a bunch of Turks disrespecting the esteemed MyAnthro here. Apologize to him or else

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nizam_al-Mulk

^This guy ran the Seljuq empire basically, kek.

Your Khorasan Iranics drank water from the same place they shat in and practiced incest. KEK!

[Halgurd]

You are a kıro sockpuppet. It is so obvious.

I doubt it. You are just afraid of him.

[Halgurd]

Retarded Monobrow little Prick ,When your all ancestors were slaves of Uzbeks and Turkmens ,do You think you insult me ,Low IQ Refugee scum, Kurds have some Turkic genes due to Turkish rape to Kurdish Slave Whores

20% of Turkish genes is from Iranics

[Böri]

This is a troll thread started on the same day I exposed Bulgarians. So people try to troll us here by expecting we will beg 'but of course Bulgarians, Lol. No way you subhuman cucks. The question should be Are Pashtuns closer to Punjabis or Turks? Obviously Punjab

[Danishmend]

I doubt it. You are just afraid of him.

Yes I'm afraid of his typical kıro blabber. He can use his original account.

[Halgurd]

This is a troll thread started on the same day I trolled Bulgarians. So people try to troll us here by expecting we will beg 'but of course Bulgarians, Lol. No way you subhuman cucks. The question should be Are Pashtuns closer to Punjabis or Turks? Obviously Punjab

The only subhuman cuck here is you since you spend your entire life on this piece of shit forum.

[Halgurd]

Yes I'm afraid of his typical kıro blabber. He can use his original account.

Who is he a sock puppet of then? You're just being paranoid.

[Böri]

Keep dreaming Kiro. I am logged in just some times of day, few minutes mostly from mobile. Whereas you are many Kiros following, monitoring the forum 7-24. When I joined the forum it was worse in 2014. Kiros mostly from Dersim were controlling the Turkish forum, assisted by a Leftist cuck Georgian supporting PKK.

[Myanthropologies]

You sound hot when you lie and manipulate.
http://i.hizliresim.com/zn1Dz7.png (http://hizliresim.com/zn1Dz7)





Both Afghan Pashtuns and Bulgarians are quite distant from Turks, but overall Bulgarians are closer genetically. I also have nothing against Pashtuns.

This is how things work in your threads:

Ask questions
Get answers
Call the person OWD when you don't like his/her answer

But they're not closer to Bulgarians lol. Look at a pca

[Halgurd]

Keep dreaming Kiro. I am logged in just some times of day, few minutes mostly from mobile. Whereas you are many Kiros following, monitoring the forum 7-24. When I joined the forum it was worse in 2014. Kiros mostly from Dersim were controlling the Turkish forum, assisted by a Leftist cuck Georgian supporting PKK.

Interesting analysis about what happened in 2014 7-24

[Myanthropologies]

Turks are closer to tajiks than to Bulgarians, they are definitely closer to Afghans than to Bulgarians
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tLc8zG4kvQk/VfkkEnimY6I/AAAAAAAADZw/6zc_ndYgBVM/s1206/West_Eurasian_PCA_ATP2.png

[Ylla]

To the Middle Eastern / Caucasus yes, however they are closer to Bulgaria due to Balkan admixture. But like Danishmend said, they are far from both groups, but slightly closer to Bulgarians compared to Afghans.

They don't have Balkan admix but from native Anatolians.

[Sui Generis]

Many people in here (not just Turks, even some Europian members and also Iranians and Kurds) are saying closer to Bulgarians despite being distinct both. But you are quoting all of them and asking how Bulgarians ? Afghans definelty Afghans.. And after you are saying Turks are Owd. Lool :D

[Myanthropologies]

They don't have Balkan admix but from native Anatolians.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Jy7IhA94GrhdfkBBjiPIhvpSuSD3lGeJnyv-3so4c4w=w1182-h631-no
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tLc8zG4kvQk/VfkkEnimY6I/AAAAAAAADZw/6zc_ndYgBVM/s1206/West_Eurasian_PCA_ATP2.png

[Pahli]

They don't have Balkan admix but from native Anatolians.

Some do, especially those in the Western parts. Others are assimilated.

[Myanthropologies]

Many people in here (not just Turks, even some Europian members and also Iranians and Kurds) are saying closer to Bulgarians despite being distinct both. But you are quoting all of them and asking how Bulgarians ? Afghans definelty Afghans.. And after you are saying Turks are Owd. Lool :D

I'm not saying Turks are OWD, just some of the rude members. Turks as a whole are proud of their heritage like afgans are, and I have respect for them. I'm well aware that the three Turks on this forum don't represent all of you.

[Pahli]

I'm a retarded brown midget

Learn to quote before you call me low IQ refugee scum :lol:

I barely have any "Turkic" genes, but you Turks have a huge East Iranian and West Iranian admixture that you cannot accept :(

[Myanthropologies]

I even remember seeing an IBD test or something from that one Turkish guy (it was before the crash). He was the one guy that everyone said looked ashkenazi, and even his IBD put him closer to Afghans than to the Balkans, and put the Greeks only a little closer.

[Danishmend]

But they're not closer to Bulgarians lol. Look at a pca
Do you think I look down on Pashtuns or something when I say Turks are closer to Bulgarians than to Pashtuns?



Turks are closer to tajiks than to Bulgarians, they are definitely closer to Afghans than to Bulgarians
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tLc8zG4kvQk/VfkkEnimY6I/AAAAAAAADZw/6zc_ndYgBVM/s1206/West_Eurasian_PCA_ATP2.png
Where did you find this? Seems like one of those amateur PCAs from Anthrogenica. I can't see Pashtuns on the PCA but if you really want us to be closer to Pashtuns then so be it.

[Myanthropologies]

Both Afghans and Turks are overwhelmingly CHG like genetically, and Turks can be modeled as half Turkmen and half Greek. Turks just have higher Natufian and lower south asian. I don't understand what makes people think Bulgarians are closer, especially when they're so genetically close to Persians.

[Danishmend]

Some do, especially those in the Western parts. Others are assimilated.

Yes, and those are Balkan Turks. This is how their oracle results look.
http://i.hizliresim.com/Xdlro7.png

[Myanthropologies]

Do you think I look down on Pashtuns or something when I say Turks are closer to Bulgarians than to Pashtuns?



Where did you find this? Seems like one of those amateur PCAs from Anthrogenica. I can't see Pashtuns on the PCA but if you really want us to be closer to Pashtuns then so be it.

There's afghan tajiks on there, who greatly overlap with pashtuns. That pca is from eurogenes, and is not amateur at all. I couldn't find one with afghan pashtuns, Turks, and Bulgarians. There's some with pathan, but that's not afghan pashtun. Even with pathans, Turks are still a tad closer to them.

[Myanthropologies]

I just made this thread because Turks call.afghans pakis on here when they themselves are closer to "pakis" and even real pakis than to the balkans.

Peope just whitewash Turks and Lebanese so much on here while alienating afghans, even though this far from reality.

[user_]

I'm not sure about genetics, but Turks look more like Bulgarians, than Afghans.

[Böri]

I just made this thread because Turks call.afghans pakis on here when they themselves are closer to "pakis" and even real pakis than to the balkans.

Peope just whitewash Turks and Lebanese so much on here whole alienating afghans, even though this far from reality.

OWDer Paki, never lose your hope. Maybe one day your Kiro brothers in Turkey will outnumber Turks and make Turkey part of the brown, Indo-Iranian world. Until then you repeat same idiocies.

[Myanthropologies]

I'm not sure about genetics, but Turks look more like Bulgarians, than Afghans.

Lol

[Norka]

I just made this thread because Turks call.afghans pakis on here when they themselves are closer to "pakis" and even real pakis than to the balkans.

Peope just whitewash Turks and Lebanese so much on here whole alienating afghans, even though this far from reality.

Look no matter how you try Turks will be seen as more white than gypsies like you. You can OWD all you want MyAnthropologies but you are just a spoilt little brown churka kid in the end. xD

[Myanthropologies]

OWDer Paki, never lose your hope. Maybe one day your Kiro brothers in Turkey will outnumber Turks and make Turkey part of the brown, Indo-Iranian world. Until then you repeat same idiocies.

You're the exact reason I made this thread OWDer. Maybe you have theshitpricity members of theapricity making you feel like nords compared to Afghans, but in real life in America you're seen as closer to indians than to whites, and I have already proved that you're genetically closer to "pakis" than to Bulgarians. Maybe you're closer to the people you apparently hate. So shut up.

[Trojka]

Afghans for the most part look alien to any pure West Eurasian ethnicity( including even Iranians)

South Asian influence is very strong, Gipsyses are only 1/4 South Asian yet their phenotypes are dark even for Iranian standards, Pashtuns even have more South Asian ancestry than gipsyes with less European and more Iranian.

Turks in terms of looks are closer to almost every European groups than Pashtuns.

[Myanthropologies]

Look no matter how you try Turks will be seen as more white than gypsies like you. You can OWD all you want MyAnthropologies but you are just a spoilt little brown churka kid in the end. xD

In America they are grouped with Indians. All brown people are just brown here, so nice try. Turks are not even whiter in reality. I have seen them and I have seen afghans, and their skin color isn't much different.

[Myanthropologies]

Afghans for the most part look alien to any pure West Eurasian ethnicity( including even Iranians)

South Asian influence is very strong, Gipsyses are only 1/4 South Asian yet their phenotypes are dark even for Iranian standards, Pashtuns even have more South Asian ancestry than gipsyes with less European and more Iranian.

Turks in terms of looks are closer to almost every European groups than Pashtuns.

LOL reality says otherwise

[user_]

Lol

What?
Turks have too much Balkan and Caucasian blood, not Afghan for sure.

[Petalpusher]

Where did you find this? Seems like one of those amateur PCAs from Anthrogenica. I can't see Pashtuns on the PCA but if you really want us to be closer to Pashtuns then so be it.

Looks more like one of those dstat pca, testing something against another.

[Myanthropologies]

I actually had a class with a Turkish guy last year and people assumed the Indian kid was his brother lol.

[user_]

But i have seen some pamiri tajiks, they look more like russians, than something from south asia.
But pamiri tajiks are different than Afgans, are not they?

[Milo]

I actually had a class with a Turkish guy last year and people assumed the Indian kid was his brother lol.

This depends on how the Indian kid looked.

[Myanthropologies]

What?
Turks have too much Balkan and Caucasian blood, not Afghan for sure.

Where did you see that they have too much balkan blood? They can be modeled as half Greek and half Turkmen. Do you consider Greeks Balkanic or something? Cause I know some do.

Anyways afghans have lots of caucasian dna themselves.

[Myanthropologies]

This depends on how the Indian kid looked.
He looked like a regular indian dude north indian that is. In reality they don't like alike, but to Americans they did. I was just laughing at the statement Turks look closer to almost every European ethnicity than to Afghans.

[Norka]

Some gay OWD Afghano-Gypsy kid opens thread and argues with people who clearly have more knowledge than he does. He has "friends" of every nationality under the sun he knows best. Ignorance is bliss for some I guess.

[Myanthropologies]

Some gay OWD Afghano-Gypsy kid opens thread and argues with people who clearly have more knowledge than he does. He has "friends" of every nationality under the sun he knows best. Ignorance is bliss for some I guess.

Oh they have more knowledge? Then why are they wrong?

I'm just tired of Turks acting like they're whiter and different from afghans when in reality they're grouped together by real white people.

[Pennywise]

This thread just proved the hilarious owdness of some Turks, thinking they are closer to Bulgarians when on average, they are obviously closer to Afghans. Keep calling afghans "brown gypsies" when you're no whiter and get grouped with afghans in any western country.

I have nothing against Turks, they are brilliant, but I am sick of them acting like they're so different from afghans to the extent where theyre closer to euros and balaknics and not OWD.

This forum is the only place where you don't confront with the immediate and permenant ban with your stupid shit posts and threads. I suggest you to enjoy your staying here without pushing your luck too much kid.

[Myanthropologies]

This forum is the only place where you don't confront with the immediate and permenant ban with your stupid shit posts and threads. I suggest you to enjoy your staying here without pushing your luck too much kid.

I wasnt talking about you, mazinkert. Mostly witness and Danishmed. I don't have anything against you.

[Böri]

Most people in this forum, starting from Kiro varieties like OP until Albo varieties envy Turks and when they fail to push their thesis and see that Turks debunk them, they are frustrated. Go to Hell, all of you.

[Ylla]

Most people in this forum, starting from Kiro varieties like OP until Albo varieties envy Turks and when they fail to push their thesis and see that Turks debunk them, they are frustrated. Go to Hell, all of you.

Albo varieties? Lmao,just say my username... what did I say that you don't like? Envy turks, are you serious? We don't envy anyone. We are friendly-neutral with you and most countries. We are not hateful people to envy.

[Danishmend]

I wasnt talking about you, mazinkert. Mostly witness and Danishmend. I don't have anything against you.

I have never insulted your people, but if some Turkish members insult you it's because of your obsession with Turks. You drag Turks and Pashtuns into the discussion wherever you go. I bet "Pashtun" is the most used word on TA (in the last few weeks at least).

[Danishmend]

Most people in this forum, starting from Kiro varieties like OP until Albo varieties envy Turks and when they fail to push their thesis and see that Turks debunk them, they are frustrated. Go to Hell, all of you.

Believe me no one envies us, especially on these days.

[Myanthropologies]

I have never insulted your people, but if some Turkish members insult you it's because of your obsession with Turks. You drag Turks and Pashtuns into the discussion wherever you go. I bet "Pashtun" is the most used word on TA (in the last few weeks at least).

Yes you have, you've trolled them on multiple ooccasions. I never talk about Turks unless they call afghans pakis, as if you're any much different.

In real life I like Turks, I do. But on this forum I don't understand why some of you have a primitive 1500 BC mentality. This doesn't go for Turks, but even some of us Iranic members sometimes and all other ethnicities.

[Trojka]

LOL reality says otherwise

Turks for the most part are native Anatolians similar to Bulgarians, Greeks, Armenians, Caucasians. Eastern Turks show strong affinity to Kurds, Iranians still very far from Afghan Pashtuns who scores 30% South Asian on most tests.
I'd say even Kurds are a bit closer to Balkan groups than Pashtuns.

[Myanthropologies]

Turks for the most part are native Anatolians similar to Bulgarians, Greeks, Armenians, Caucasians. Eastern Turks show strong affinity to Kurds, Iranians still very far from Afghan Pashtuns who scores 30% South Asian on most tests.
I'd say even Kurds are a bit closer to Balkan groups than Pashtuns.

No. Go look at the PCA I posted. Practically every kind of turk is closer to tajiks, which in turns means they're closer to pashtuns too.

[Danishmend]

Yes you have, you've trolled them on multiple ooccasions.
I might have insulted you as an individual, but I have never insulted Pashtuns. If you claim otherwise, quote those posts of mine please.





I never talk about Turks unless they call afghans pakis, as if you're any much different.
Leave the Turks out of your never ending discussions and no one will call you names.

[Myanthropologies]

I might have insulted you as an individual, but I have never insulted Pashtuns. If you claim otherwise, quote those posts of mine please.




Leave the Turks out of your never ending discussions and no one will call you names.

When you call me names like "paki," "brown turd," you are judging not me, but my ethnicity, which therefore makes you judging my ethnicity. I will leave Turks alone once they leave iranics alone.

[Danishmend]

When you call me names like "paki," "brown turd," you are judging not me, but my ethnicity, which therefore makes you judging my ethnicity. I will leave Turks alone once they leave iranics alone.

I have never used those words. You are free to quote my posts. I usually call you a fucking moron. But "brown turd"? Nope, you are confusing me with someone else.

[Myanthropologies]

I have never used those words. You are free to quote my posts. I usually call you a fucking moron. But "brown turd"? Nope, you are confusing me with someone else.

I will make and while you're at it feel free to quite a another thread I made about Turks within the last week, or anything I've said about them.

[meisje]

In America they are grouped with Indians. All brown people are just brown here, so nice try. Turks are not even whiter in reality. I have seen them and I have seen afghans, and their skin color isn't much different.

Kid , Stop trolling, You are not even west asian but mostly South indian and South central asian

[Myanthropologies]

Kid , Stop trolling, You are not even west asian but mostly South indian and South central asian

Shut up kek, you're more related to these "south indians" than you are to 97.8% of the world. You are the self declared whiteturk, along with anatolian stallion.

[meisje]

Shut up kek, you're more related to these "south indians" than you are to 97.8% of the world. You are the self declared whiteturk, along with anatolian stallion.
Deal with realities ,Moron ,Better stop trolling on basic things
People keep reacting to you throughout you go with same habits

[Myanthropologies]

Deal with realities ,Moron ,Better stop trolling on basic things
People keep reacting to you throughout you go with same habits

Dur dur dur dur dur

[Trojka]

Myanthropologies keeps dreaming of Blonde Afghan pashtuns killing his bum, but we have to show him the light

Afghan Pashtuns:


http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2014-03/31/133227763_13962627048641n.jpg
http://vid.alarabiya.net/images/2014/03/27/8e5cfedc-4ae9-432b-a11f-0e46caf9261c/8e5cfedc-4ae9-432b-a11f-0e46caf9261c_16x9_600x338.jpg
http://www.geourdu.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Pashtun.jpg
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-IP858_TALFEA_G_20100525184404.jpg

[user_]

Myanthropologies keeps dreaming of Blonde Afghan pashtuns killing his bum, but we have to show him the light

Afghan Pashtuns:


http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2014-03/31/133227763_13962627048641n.jpg
http://vid.alarabiya.net/images/2014/03/27/8e5cfedc-4ae9-432b-a11f-0e46caf9261c/8e5cfedc-4ae9-432b-a11f-0e46caf9261c_16x9_600x338.jpg
http://www.geourdu.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Pashtun.jpg
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-IP858_TALFEA_G_20100525184404.jpg

South Asian admixture is very visible. They look darker than even leventines, not to tell turks.

[Myanthropologies]

Myanthropologies keeps dreaming of Blonde Afghan pashtuns killing his bum, but we have to show him the light

Afghan Pashtuns:
Poor, starved Turks look really dark too.

Here are young afghans in universities and liberal areas:

http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/unikardanpic_zpsc9owh2cl.jpg (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Mobile%20Uploads/unikardanpic_zpsc9owh2cl.jpg.html)
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/20d8add985d9841393-d985d8b9db8cd986-d986d8b4d8b1d8a7d8aadb8c-d8a7d8b2-daa9d8a7d8b1-d8b1d8b3d8a7d984d8aa-d985d986d8afd8a7d986_zpsir8clkex.jpg (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20d8add985d9841393-d985d8b9db8cd986-d986d8b4d8b1d8a7d8aadb8c-d8a7d8b2-daa9d8a7d8b1-d8b1d8b3d8a7d984d8aa-d985d986d8afd8a7d986_zpsir8clkex.jpg.html)
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/maxresdefault%201_zpsrh9oydov.jpg (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Mobile%20Uploads/maxresdefault%201_zpsrh9oydov.jpg.html)
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/Final-4_zpsq2xibjx9.jpg (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Final-4_zpsq2xibjx9.jpg.html)
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/7033597279_cc9a95af4c_z_zpswfpeqri5.jpg (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Mobile%20Uploads/7033597279_cc9a95af4c_z_zpswfpeqri5.jpg.html)
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/timthumb_zpswmzo8aoa.jpg (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Mobile%20Uploads/timthumb_zpswmzo8aoa.jpg.html)
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/images%205_zpsapdayff2.jpg (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Mobile%20Uploads/images%205_zpsapdayff2.jpg.html)
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/images%205_zpsapdayff2.jpg (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Mobile%20Uploads/images%205_zpsapdayff2.jpg.html)
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/63_14302832311486042251_zps1gj5mcr3.jpg (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Mobile%20Uploads/63_14302832311486042251_zps1gj5mcr3.jpg.html)
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/photo_zpsvnp8ukx7.jpg (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Mobile%20Uploads/photo_zpsvnp8ukx7.jpg.html)
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/del_zps72vh25hi.png (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Mobile%20Uploads/del_zps72vh25hi.png.html)
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/169548433_zpsmw7xlwpa.jpg (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Mobile%20Uploads/169548433_zpsmw7xlwpa.jpg.html)
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/dsc_1171_zps2w5eazmb.jpg (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Mobile%20Uploads/dsc_1171_zps2w5eazmb.jpg.html)
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/0847c015b65017cbe0e1d995a0703b73_zpsaxgbopy8.jpg (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Mobile%20Uploads/0847c015b65017cbe0e1d995a0703b73_zpsaxgbopy8.jpg.h tml)
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/863f2c2fb60afefb40c1e2204a55c956_zpsvdrazmja.jpg (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Mobile%20Uploads/863f2c2fb60afefb40c1e2204a55c956_zpsvdrazmja.jpg.h tml)
http://i0.wp.com/www.burqasandbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/haz2.jpg
http://i2.wp.com/www.burqasandbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/afghanman_arte.jpg?w=500
http://i2.wp.com/www.burqasandbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/kalash_1486002c.jpg?w=460
http://i2.wp.com/www.burqasandbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/pahuten-redhair.png
http://i0.wp.com/www.burqasandbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/40366.story_x_large-2.jpg

I also love how you idiots always use the same three pictures of pashtuns when calling them brown, like broken records. Not even all those people are dark. There are many dark Turkish pictures. Why does cenk ughyur look like an arabo-gypsy compared to the afghan american governor if Turks are so much whiter?

[Myanthropologies]

South Asian admixture is very visible. They look darker than even leventines, not to tell turks.

Afghanistan is a diverse country, I posted pictures from pashtun dominated areas. I also love how people always use afghan pictures from cities and not rural areas. Obviously an agenda. Lol at afghans being darker than Levantines or Turks.

[Trojka]

majority of those aren't even Pashtun but Iranians, Tadjiks.

These are Hazaras, or are you going to tell us Pashtuns look like blonde Mongols?
http://i0.wp.com/www.burqasandbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/haz2.jpg

[Myanthropologies]

majority of those aren't even Pashtun but Iranians, Tadjiks.

These are Hazaras, or are you going to tell us Pashtuns look like blonde Mongols?
http://i0.wp.com/www.burqasandbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/haz2.jpg

You idiot, only two of them were hazras. Majority of the university student ARE pashtun and ao are mjoirty of the other people, and I can prove they are. Tajiks in Afghanistan are genetically and phenotypically pashtuns with a farsi language basically.

[user_]

[QUOTE=Myanthropologies;3969866]Poor, starved Turks look really dark too.

Here are young afghans in universities and liberal areas:[/IMG][/URL]

This people look Iranian, except last blondish kids.

[Trojka]

You idiot, only two of them were hazras. Majority of the university student ARE pashtun and ao are mjoirty of the other people, and I can prove they are. Tajiks in Afghanistan are genetically and phenotypically pashtuns with a farsi language basically.

No evidence, and considering your defensive responses they're not pashtuns except a few, if any. Most Pashtuns are brown skinned you look like northwest indians, pakis, gipsyes with some central asian, indo european admix there's nothing to add. :)

[Böri]

Afghans have similar skin complexion as Persians, North Indians, some Kurds etc


http://i.imgur.com/IXtJgoP.jpg


http://40.media.tumblr.com/3374bf660e79ec4b05edcb0dc54da81f/tumblr_my7adbYIfV1rasnq9o1_500.png

They are of the brown spectrum.

[bloggen]

bulgars, the ancient ones.

[Trojka]

Average pashtun man

http://stevemccurry.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/pashtun8.jpg

[Myanthropologies]

They are pashtun stupid idiot. Go right click the images in Google for yourself and see you idiot. Just like when you right click some of your photos they came up as hazaras. Are you too afraid?
Afghan Americans:

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRVK_bpS4WVl96vWz685pSbY0FWIuUCD U4wC0S1h-cChFZqi6YM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-8Fb367JDLE/hqdefault.jpg
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160612120738-omar-mateen-orlando-shooting-suspect-large-169.jpeg
http://21stcenturywire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Orlando-Shooter-Father-Taliban.png

Turkish americans:
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTChOlM4ZasFep1sJpMpdXDWl_XrX7iE swPPqxZTEKsGOeFzAtv
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNHTCD8fWy4bEiHCazJ-vhUE2_BjRRz6Ibp0IE_VcNr5F0MUkQCg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0g_Q0_flxrMsKn1G96IffN2J_UQW7j 5kiPQ64KgNc5tZ-jgYG

Wow, Turks are so much whiter and can pass in most Europeans countries than in afghanstan lol

[user_]

When i'm interested how people from different countries look like, i always watch vice news documentaries ))) it's much better than cherry picked pictures.

Vice news from Afghanistan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K5qBGBEE_c
Vice news from Turkey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG1JndEu_0U

Two absolutely different group of people. Turks are closet to Balkans and Caucasus, than to Afghanistan.

[Myanthropologies]

When i'm interested how people from different countries look like, i always watch vice news documentaries ))) it's much better than cherry picked pictures.

Vice news from Afghanistan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K5qBGBEE_c
Vice news from Turkey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG1JndEu_0U

Two absolutely different group of people. Turks are closet to Balkans and Caucasus, than to Afghanistan.

That's a stupid way to go, that's not the reality at all. Afghanistan is not even majority pashtun. I posted university student photos from pashtun dominated areas and pictures from rural areas, not cities like everyone else does. Aren't you the same person that got mad at people posting pictures of Georgians from Tsbili because of Armenians? That's the same thing here. Even as I have shown above with American disporsas, average afghan american is not much different than average Turkish americans.

Peope are just stupid and ignorant on afghanistan. It's not like these countries you're comparing it to in terms of size and diversity.

[Trojka]

They are pashtun stupid idiot. Go right click the images in Google for yourself and see you idiot. Just like when you right click some of your photos they came up as hazaras. Are you too afraid?
Afghan Americans:

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRVK_bpS4WVl96vWz685pSbY0FWIuUCD U4wC0S1h-cChFZqi6YM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-8Fb367JDLE/hqdefault.jpg
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160612120738-omar-mateen-orlando-shooting-suspect-large-169.jpeg
http://21stcenturywire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Orlando-Shooter-Father-Taliban.png

Turkish americans:
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTChOlM4ZasFep1sJpMpdXDWl_XrX7iE swPPqxZTEKsGOeFzAtv
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNHTCD8fWy4bEiHCazJ-vhUE2_BjRRz6Ibp0IE_VcNr5F0MUkQCg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0g_Q0_flxrMsKn1G96IffN2J_UQW7j 5kiPQ64KgNc5tZ-jgYG

Wow, Turks are so much whiter and can pass in most Europeans countries than in afghanstan lol

You could've done better:

Pashtuns:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Dolph_Lundgren_2014.jpg

Turkish:

http://medya.todayszaman.com/todayszaman/2009/01/20/afro-turks-love-you-so-much-01.jpg

[Myanthropologies]

You could've done better:

Pashtuns:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Dolph_Lundgren_2014.jpg

Turkish:

http://medya.todayszaman.com/todayszaman/2009/01/20/afro-turks-love-you-so-much-01.jpg

The second lady i posted is my aunt you dummy. I posted all ethnic Pashtun and all ethnic Turks. Gotta love owd denying dark Turks are Turks and that average afghans are afghans.

[user_]

That's a stupid way to go, that's not the reality at all. Afghanistan is not even majority pashtun. I posted university student photos from pashtun dominated areas and pictures from rural areas, not cities like everyone else does. Aren't you the same person that got mad at people posting pictures of Georgians from Tsbili because of Armenians? That's the same thing here. Even as I have shown above with American disporsas, average afghan american is not much different than average Turkish americans.

Peope are just stupid and ignorant on afghanistan. It's not like these countries you're comparing it to in terms of size and diversity.

In your thread you sked are Tuks close to Bulgarians or to Afghanistan people, you did not said only pashtuns.
Okay, now i go to see some documentaries about pashtuns on youtube.

[Halgurd]

Your aunt looks extremely Persian

[Myanthropologies]

In your thread you sked are Tuks close to Bulgarians or to Afghanistan people, you did not said only pashtuns.
Okay, now i go to see some documentaries about pashtuns on youtube.

Documentaries are stupid. There are no Documentaries on pashtuns except for one on Pakistani Pashtuns claiming they're the jews. Look up university photos in pashtun dominated areas and look at pictures from pashtun dominated areas.

There are even pictures of afghan kids from pashtun cities in my textbooks and they look not nearly anything like how people on this site make them look.

[Myanthropologies]

Your aunt looks extremely Persian

I agree.

[Myanthropologies]

But the repsonses in this thread and the poll resuls show how removed this website is from reality lmao.

[user_]

Documentaries are stupid. There are no Documentaries on pashtuns except for one on Pakistani Pashtuns claiming they're the jews. Look up university photos in pashtun dominated areas and look at pictures from pashtun dominated areas.

There are even pictures of afghan kids from pashtun cities in my textbooks and they look not nearly anything like how people on this site make them look.

Look, i'm more interested in videos, cause in pictures people can look very different from waht they are.
Better show me videos of pashtun people plz, random group of people.
This are pashtuns from Karachi, are they much different from Afganistan pashtuns?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=via1pgJfl04

[Nebuchadnezzar]

The next time I see an afghan, I'm going to find his mother's grave and piss on it... all but thanks to you Myanthropologies.

[Myanthropologies]

Look, i'm more interested in videos, cause in pictures people can look very different from waht they are.
Better show me videos of pashtun people plz, random group of people.
This are pashtuns from Karachi, are they much different from Afganistan pashtuns?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=via1pgJfl04
This is my family, all Afghan Pashtuns you decide:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?186399-Classify-my-living-Afghan-Pashtun-family-members-relatives-etc
This is me, but don't quote:

http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Screenshot_2016-09-28-00-55-55-1-1-1_zpsoxttbcpc.png (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Screenshot_2016-09-28-00-55-55-1-1-1_zpsoxttbcpc.png.html)

[Imamudin]

Turks are closet to Balkans and Caucasus, than to Afghanistan.

Transcaucasus, to be more accurate.

I think Anatolian Turks overall resemble the most Greeks, Balkaners and Kurds with a splash of Turkmen ancestry.

[user_]

This is my family, all Afghan Pashtuns you decide:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?186399-Classify-my-living-Afghan-Pashtun-family-members-relatives-etc
This is me, but don't quote:
[/URL]
Some of members of your family pass in South Europe, some in Central (you), some in Central Asia (Tajikistan).
But your family can not represent ll pashtun people.
Show me some video with different people, random people from the streets, weddings or smthing like this.

[Maguzanci]

Afghanistan is a diverse country, I posted pictures from pashtun dominated areas. I also love how people always use afghan pictures from cities and not rural areas. Obviously an agenda. Lol at afghans being darker than Levantines or Turks.

This is true. Afghanistan is very diverse. You can get from Iranid looking people to dark-skin to East Asian/Siberian Mongoloid looking Hazaras and even to Blond, red hair light eye Euro-looking people.

One thing I know for sure. Afghans have actual derived ancestry derived from ancient Steppe populations which are close to modern day Nordic Euros while most Levantines don't. Not sure about Turks.

[Sui Generis]

Poor, starved Turks look really dark too.

Here are young afghans in universities and liberal areas:

http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/unikardanpic_zpsc9owh2cl.jpg (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Mobile%20Uploads/unikardanpic_zpsc9owh2cl.jpg.html)
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/timthumb_zpswmzo8aoa.jpg
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/images%205_zpsapdayff2.jpg
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/169548433_zpsmw7xlwpa.jpg
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/Final-4_zpsq2xibjx9.jpg (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/drcypriot084/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Final-4_zpsq2xibjx9.jpg.html)
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160612120738-omar-mateen-orlando-shooting-suspect-large-169.jpeg




I can give some student examples from here.

http://www.marmarabasin.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/153.jpg
http://www.sakarya54.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/egitim1.jpg
https://www.anadolu.edu.tr/uploads/anadolu/galeri/photos/557edd9a79d50.JPG
http://d.agridahaber.com/other/2016/05/28/inonu-universitesinde-mezuniyet-toreni-001.jpg
http://ilkhabergazetesi.tv/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/mezuniyet-4-Small.jpg

[user_]

Transcaucasus, to be more accurate.

Shure, Armenia and Azerbaijan more, than Georgia and North Caucasus.

[Myanthropologies]

This is true. Afghanistan is very diverse. You can get from Iranid looking people to dark-skin to East Asian/Siberian Mongoloid looking Hazaras and even to Blond, red hair light eye Euro-looking people.

One thing I know for sure. Afghans have actual derived ancestry derived from ancient Europeans while most Levantines don't. Not sure about Turks.

Afghans and Turks have the most European influence in the region, maybe I slated berber tribes do as well. But their other components drag them away from Europeans. Afghans have a shift towards north east europeans, Turks have a shift towards Greeks.

[Myanthropologies]

I can give some student examples from here.

http://www.marmarabasin.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/153.jpg
http://www.sakarya54.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/egitim1.jpg
https://www.anadolu.edu.tr/uploads/anadolu/galeri/photos/557edd9a79d50.JPG
http://d.agridahaber.com/other/2016/05/28/inonu-universitesinde-mezuniyet-toreni-001.jpg
http://ilkhabergazetesi.tv/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/mezuniyet-4-Small.jpg

Some of those are probably western turks, we're talking about the average Turks obviously.

Also love how you selected only some of the afghan photos I posted haha.

[Trojka]

Myanthopologies, I've exposed you and your race, face the fact, you're closer to North Indians than Kurds!

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?191162-Are-Pashtuns-closer-to-North-Indians-or-Kurds

[Maguzanci]

Afghans and Turks have the most European influence in the region, maybe I slated berber tribes do as well. But their other components drag them away from Europeans. Afghans have a shift towards north east europeans, Turks have a shift towards Greeks.

Yes Berbers like Riffians, Kabyles and even urban Maghrebis like Moroccans have quite a lot of European influence as well. Although Berbers and Maghrebis are more like Turks in being South Euro shifted. While most Egyptians, Gulf Arabs and Levantines don't really have European influence.

[Sui Generis]

Some of those are probably western turks, we're talking about the average Turks obviously.

These are random pictures and they are students. I see these kind people in everywhere and becouse of this photos you sent look to me like Iranian, Afghan or whatever.

[Myanthropologies]

These are random pictures and they are students. I see these kind people in everywhere and becouse of this photos you sent look to me like Iranian, Afghan or whatever.

I posted pictures of Afghan Americans and lturkish Americans. You also selected the darkest afghan photos I put for comparison and cut out the lighter ones. I bet a lot of the people you posted are anatolian Greeks too. If Turks were that white on average, we would get more of them looking like that in America. Even the Turkish users who have posted here have been kinda swarthy most of the time.

[Registan]

Lulz why was I banned, my old account was deleted and I'm not a sock. Ask Zoran and MyAnthro, they know me.

Turks aren't Khorasani, they were just influenced by Khorasani (TAJIK/AFGHAN) culture.

DanishmAnd is a Persian word and the founder of the Hanafi school of Islam was a Tajik from Kabul. Turks owe everything to Iranics and should be more respectul of them instead of banning them/silencing dissent without proof :picard1:

[Myanthropologies]

Lulz why was I banned, my old account was deleted and I'm not a sock. Ask Zoran and MyAnthro, they know me.

Turks aren't Khorasani, they were just influenced by Khorasani (TAJIK/AFGHAN) culture.

DanishmAnd is a Persian word and the founder of the Hanafi school of Islam was a Tajik from Kabul. Turks owe everything to Iranics and should be more respectul of them instead of banning them/silencing dissent without proof :picard1:

Who are you?

[Sui Generis]

I posted pictures of Afghan Americans and lturkish Americans. You also selected the darkest afghan photos I put for comparison d cut out the lighter ones. I bet a lot of the people you posted are anatolian Greeks too. If Turks were that white on average, we would get more of them looking like that in America. Even the Turkish users who have posted here have been kinda swarthy most of the time.

I picked especially students not old people or children. Like I said, I can see this kind students in everywhere. They are not monotype models, they are random people. Maybe I can see some like you sent but then I will think he/she is probably from east. So becouse of this many Turks can give Bulgarians as answer to your question.

[user_]

Some of those are probably western turks, we're talking about the average Turks obviously.

Also love how you selected only some of the afghan photos I posted haha.

Palest Turks come from Black Sea region.
The people from the picture look normal Turkish, i've visited Istanbul many times.
Yes, some turks can look Levantine and Iranian from South Eastern part. But Tuks from Black Sea, West and Central part not.

[Myanthropologies]

I picked especially students not old people or children. Like I said, I can see this kind students in everywhere. They are not monotype models, they are random people. Maybe I can see some like you sent but then I will think he/she is probably from east. So becouse of this many Turks can give Bulgarians as answer to your question.

I've been to Turkey myself and most people who looked like that (that I talked to anyways), specified that they were greek. I did meet a handful of light ethnic Turks, but most didn't look closer to Bulgarians.

[Danishmend]

Afghan turkmens are far closer to pashtuns genetically than to anatolian turks, so your statement makes no sense.

Is that so?

Turkmens - Steppe K10 top 20 populations

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkmen @ 0,206746
2 Afghan_Turkmen @ 7,50568
3 Uzbek @ 11,304809
4 Nogai @ 14,893445
5 Afghan_Tadjik @ 14,921337
6 Tadjik @ 15,40988
7 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 16,045876
8 Kumyk @ 22,477077
9 Uygur @ 22,8777
10 Turkish_Balikesir @ 22,951057
11 Turkish_Aydin @ 24,028528
12 Tajik_Pomiri @ 25,842281
13 Balkar @ 25,925192
14 North_Ossetian @ 25,949263
15 Afghan_Pashtun @ 26,38838
16 Lezgin @ 26,643078
17 Chechen @ 26,680635
18 Adygei @ 27,014987
19 Iranian @ 27,55396
20 Turkish_Cappadocia @ 27,610737
180 iterations.

[Myanthropologies]

Palest Turks come from Black Sea region.
The people from the picture look normal Turkish, i've visited Istanbul many times.
Yes, some turks can look Levantine and Iranian from South Eastern part. But Tuks from Black Sea, West and Central part not.

I even know a half Turkish half italian girl and she looks nothing like that.

[Registan]

You idiot, only two of them were hazras. Majority of the university student ARE pashtun and ao are mjoirty of the other people, and I can prove they are. Tajiks in Afghanistan are genetically and phenotypically pashtuns with a farsi language basically.

Bachem those pictures are from Kabul and a good portion of them are likely Tajik. Tajiks dominate Afghan universities historically. Plus rural Pashtuns are much more conservative and wouldn't allow photos of smiling female students in universities to be taken or women to publicly protest. Some are definitely Pashtun as well though.

And NO, there has never been a census in Afghanistan so the majority of people are not Pashtun!

[Myanthropologies]

Is that so?

Turkmens - Steppe K10 top 20 populations

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkmen @ 0,206746
2 Afghan_Turkmen @ 7,50568
3 Uzbek @ 11,304809
4 Nogai @ 14,893445
5 Afghan_Tadjik @ 14,921337
6 Tadjik @ 15,40988
7 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 16,045876
8 Kumyk @ 22,477077
9 Uygur @ 22,8777
10 Turkish_Balikesir @ 22,951057
11 Turkish_Aydin @ 24,028528
12 Tajik_Pomiri @ 25,842281
13 Balkar @ 25,925192
14 North_Ossetian @ 25,949263
15 Afghan_Pashtun @ 26,38838
16 Lezgin @ 26,643078
17 Chechen @ 26,680635
18 Adygei @ 27,014987
19 Iranian @ 27,55396
20 Turkish_Cappadocia @ 27,610737
180 iterations.

Where is that even from? That cannot be true. Also no regular Turkish on there so lol

[Myanthropologies]

Bachem those pictures are from Kabul and a good portion of them are likely Tajik. Tajiks dominate Afghan universities historically. Plus rural Pashtuns are much more conservative and wouldn't allow photos of smiling female students in universities to be taken or women to publicly protest. Some are definitely Pashtun as well though.

And NO, there has never been a census in Afghanistan so the majority of people are not Pashtun!

Yes, but tajiks are basically persianified pashtuns. So they're not that different. I'm sure most of them are pashtun.

[Registan]

Yes, but tajiks are basically persianified pashtuns. So they're not that different.

No, they are Persianized East Iranics. Are Pamiris and Yaghnobis Pashtun too? Pashtuns don't have a monopoly on East Iranic-ness.

Tajiks are historically sedentary and non-tribal. They were never part of the Pashtun tribal system..

[Danishmend]

Where is that even from? That cannot be true. Also no regular Turkish on there so lol

What the fuck is regular Turkish? These are population averages from steppe k10 spreadsheet. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hb0GVyrf2ztR_QvoIYcmhWtsYv0p39avjqM-G3-6Xew/edit#gid=1809893991


You can run these averages through 4 ancestors oracle tool if you don't trust me.

Download --> http://dodecad.blogspot.com.tr/2011/07/dodecad-oracle-v1.html


Turkmens - Steppe K10 top 20 populations

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkmen @ 0,206746
2 Afghan_Turkmen @ 7,50568
3 Uzbek @ 11,304809
4 Nogai @ 14,893445
5 Afghan_Tadjik @ 14,921337
6 Tadjik @ 15,40988
7 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 16,045876
8 Kumyk @ 22,477077
9 Uygur @ 22,8777
10 Turkish_Balikesir @ 22,951057
11 Turkish_Aydin @ 24,028528
12 Tajik_Pomiri @ 25,842281
13 Balkar @ 25,925192
14 North_Ossetian @ 25,949263
15 Afghan_Pashtun @ 26,38838
16 Lezgin @ 26,643078
17 Chechen @ 26,680635
18 Adygei @ 27,014987
19 Iranian @ 27,55396
20 Turkish_Cappadocia @ 27,610737
180 iterations.

[Berahthraban]

I personally think that most Turks are genetically closer to Afghans than to Bulgarians, because on most pcas, Turks cluster near Iranians. So if you're saying Turks are closer to Bulgarians than to Afghans, you're also saying that Iranians are closer to Bulgarians than to Afghans, and that's just lol tier.

But I've never seen a PCA plot with all three populations (afghans pashtuns and pathans are not the same thing on pca plots).

Yep, my thoughts exactly. I do tbh not know much about Afghan/Pashtun genetics but this is what makes sense.

[Myanthropologies]

No, they are Persianized East Iranics. Are Pamiris and Yaghnobis Pashtun too? Pashtuns don't have a monopoly on East Iranic-ness.

Tajiks are historically sedentary and non-tribal. They were never part of the Pashtun tribal system..

Whatever. Most eastern iranics look very similar.

[Trojka]

Yes, but tajiks are basically persianified pashtuns. So they're not that different. I'm sure most of them are pashtun.

Listen you indian diaspora member, genetically you're 2times closer to Indians than to Kurds even.

[Myanthropologies]

No, they are Persianized East Iranics. Are Pamiris and Yaghnobis Pashtun too? Pashtuns don't have a monopoly on East Iranic-ness.

Tajiks are historically sedentary and non-tribal. They were never part of the Pashtun tribal system..

So who are you. You claimed I know you but I'm not too sure? Philip Jennings? Btw you weren't banned. Accounts were erased cause of the crash. They had to reset the website back to 9/2015. Don't take it personally.

[Registan]

Is that so?

Turkmens - Steppe K10 top 20 populations

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkmen @ 0,206746
2 Afghan_Turkmen @ 7,50568
3 Uzbek @ 11,304809
4 Nogai @ 14,893445
5 Afghan_Tadjik @ 14,921337
6 Tadjik @ 15,40988
7 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 16,045876
8 Kumyk @ 22,477077
9 Uygur @ 22,8777
10 Turkish_Balikesir @ 22,951057
11 Turkish_Aydin @ 24,028528
12 Tajik_Pomiri @ 25,842281
13 Balkar @ 25,925192
14 North_Ossetian @ 25,949263
15 Afghan_Pashtun @ 26,38838
16 Lezgin @ 26,643078
17 Chechen @ 26,680635
18 Adygei @ 27,014987
19 Iranian @ 27,55396
20 Turkish_Cappadocia @ 27,610737
180 iterations.

It depends on the calculator, on others Afghans are closer to Turkmen. Afghans are apparently closer to Lezgins and Chechens than Turkmen on K10 steppe!

A 1/2 Tajik 1/2 Pashtun's results

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Afghan_Pashtun @ 5,356033
2 Tajik_Pomiri @ 7,454045
3 Tadjik @ 9,063714
4 Pathan @ 11,778725
5 Afghan_Uzbek @ 13,225575
6 Afghan_Tadjik @ 13,379507
7 Brahui @ 13,672045
8 Burusho @ 14,081902
9 Lezgin @ 14,364709
10 Balochi @ 15,107577
11 Chechen @ 16,474325
12 GujaratiA @ 17,098363
13 Kalash @ 17,446236
14 Kumyk @ 18,13644
15 Balkar @ 18,34782
16 North_Ossetian @ 18,371049
17 Adygei @ 18,441658
18 Brahmin_UP @ 19,946317
19 Turkmen @ 21,949385
20 Punjabi @ 22,115596
259 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Burusho+Lezgin @ 2,323015
2 Burusho+Chechen @ 3,129354
3 Chechen+GujaratiA @ 3,18651
4 GujaratiA+Kumyk @ 3,751487
5 Balkar+GujaratiA @ 3,921542
6 Brahmin_UP+Chechen @ 3,965639
7 GujaratiA+North_Ossetian @ 4,008727
8 Afghan_Pashtun+Tajik_Pomiri @ 4,084433
9 GujaratiA+Lezgin @ 4,170068
10 Adygei+GujaratiA @ 4,194072

Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tajik_Pomiri @ 5,781324
2 Afghan_Pashtun @ 6,089563
3 Pathan @ 7,423369
4 Tadjik @ 7,725951
5 Kalash @ 9,694051
6 Afghan_Uzbek @ 10,583689
7 Afghan_Tadjik @ 10,606791
8 Burusho @ 10,638608
9 GujaratiA @ 11,559264
10 Brahui @ 11,918173
11 Balochi @ 12,529396
12 Kumyk @ 13,44837
13 Turkmen @ 14,266564
14 Balkar @ 14,515
15 North_Ossetian @ 14,732751
16 Nogai @ 15,432176
17 Afghan_Turkmen @ 15,515495
18 Brahmin_UP @ 15,769253
19 Iranian @ 15,813125
20 Adygei @ 15,835659
259 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Burusho+Lezgin @ 3,236478
2 GujaratiA+Lezgin @ 3,332307
3 Chechen+GujaratiA @ 3,525632
4 Lezgin+Pathan @ 3,794516
5 Burusho+Chechen @ 3,966627
6 Chechen+Pathan @ 4,17975
7 Pathan+Tajik_Pomiri @ 4,465679
8 Chechen+Kalash @ 4,639514
9 Kalash+Lezgin @ 4,673726
10 Afghan_Pashtun+Tajik_Pomiri @ 4,766173

edit: made a mistake, those are Eurogenes K8 AMI results. Will look for K10 steppe later

[Berahthraban]

People don't realize that Turks relatively speaking are pretty far removed from Europe. WHG makes a difference.

[Myanthropologies]

People don't realize that Turks relatively speaking are pretty far removed from Europe. WHG makes a difference.

Well actually Turks and Pashtuns have a fair amount of WHG like stuff from what I've read, but I think what throws them off is their very foreign other components. I might be wrong though. But I agree. Turks have foreign input. Some are close to Europeans, but those people are usually aware they are of full European descent such as Anatolian Greeks for example.

[Registan]

Actually my bad, those were Eurogenes K8 AMI results, not K10 steppe.

[Trojka]

The second part of this thread:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?191162-Are-Pashtuns-closer-to-North-Indians-or-Kurds

[Berahthraban]

Well actually Turks and Pashtuns have a fair amount of WHG like stuff from what I've read, but I think what throws them off is their very foreign other components. I might be wrong though. But I agree. Turks have foreign input. Some are close to Europeans, but those people are usually aware they are of full European descent such as Anatolian Greeks for example.

Only 10% Right? That's the maximum I have seen at least (tell me if it's not the case). Even Sicilians have 20, which in itself would be a huge difference. That combined with the other components e.g. increased EEA and more heavier MENA is throwing them even more off.

[Trojka]

Pashtuns have less than 5% WHG, most of their European ancestry comes from the mixing with North Indians, Tadjiks and Iranians.

[Pahli]

Pashtuns have less than 5% WHG, most of their European ancestry comes from the mixing with North Indians, Tadjiks and Iranians.

It actually doesn't come from North Indians, they just received less NE-European than their Central Asian cousins, look at us West Iranians, we barely have any NE-European ancestry.

[Sui Generis]

I posted pictures of Afghan Americans and lturkish Americans. You also selected the darkest afghan photos I put for comparison and cut out the lighter ones. I bet a lot of the people you posted are anatolian Greeks too. If Turks were that white on average, we would get more of them looking like that in America. Even the Turkish users who have posted here have been kinda swarthy most of the time.

Okey also I will give light people from your post. But they still dont fit to here. In here, blondie, pale people look more different than them. I will give examples again.

Yours:
http://i0.wp.com/www.burqasandbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/40366.story_x_large-2.jpg
http://i2.wp.com/www.burqasandbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/afghanman_arte.jpg?w=500
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/0847c015b65017cbe0e1d995a0703b73_zpsaxgbopy8.jpg
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/7033597279_cc9a95af4c_z_zpswfpeqri5.jpg

Ours:
http://www.ogunhaber.com/assets/uploads/other/4381.jpg
http://c11.incisozluk.com.tr/res/incisozluk/11007/4/471904_o8882.jpg
http://cf.kizlarsoruyor.com/q5026084/4b89d92a-f498-435b-b35d-054965027a28.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DMkDg_gfGZk/V8SlbZ_dq0I/AAAAAAAAHZA/B2oPqWhoYW0wRTr95Wn3DfKeHMRdOGRIACLcB/s1600/aleyna-tilki-05.png


Also accordin to you, dark looking people are Turkish but light looking people are Greek. But so interesting, every people light, dark, blondie, swarthy from your post is Afghan ? Becouse your country is inclueding every kind people, a heaven of variety. But if I show pale people they are Greek. Lol :D

We can see pale people like photos I sent (especially students in my first post are quite common) in many region, Marmara, Ege, Blacksea, Central Anatolia, Akdeniz.. So its not a rare thing in here. We can see usually dark examples in east or southeast.
Example Hdp parliements:
http://ia.tmgrup.com.tr/cae210/0/0/0/0/2048/1549?u=http://i.tmgrup.com.tr/dailysabah/2016/05/21/1463847972710.jpg
http://image.cdn.iha.com.tr/Contents/store/img/928000/929905.jpg

[Danishmend]

Comparison of Turks, Bulgarians and Pashtuns.


Steppe = component based on Yamnaya samples
Hindu_Kush = ANE-related South Central Asian component



Near_Eastern
East_Asian
Siberian
Oceanian
WHG_UHG
Sub_Saharan
Hindu_Kush
Steppe
Amerindian
Southeast_Asian


Turkish_Aydın

43,45

6,62

6,17

0,33

8,23

0,47

17,32

16,17

0,76

0,44


Turkish_Balıkesir

41,63

6,44

6,05

0,64

9,93

0,22

16,98

16,57

0,50

1,01


Turkish_Cappadocia

46,73

2,90

3,20

0,42

5,08

0,20

22,74

17,38

0,58

0,75


Bulgarian

42,51

0,60

0,72

0,38

26,21

0,03

4,91

23,91

0,24

0,49


Afghan_Pashtun

14,39

4,65

4,13

1,99

8,80

0,00

48,21

13,26

1,28

3,30

[Pahli]

Okey also I will give light people from your post. But they still dont fit to here. In here, blondie, pale people look more different than them. I will give examples again.

Yours:
http://i0.wp.com/www.burqasandbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/40366.story_x_large-2.jpg
http://i2.wp.com/www.burqasandbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/afghanman_arte.jpg?w=500
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/0847c015b65017cbe0e1d995a0703b73_zpsaxgbopy8.jpg
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/drcypriot084/Mobile%20Uploads/7033597279_cc9a95af4c_z_zpswfpeqri5.jpg

Ours:
http://www.ogunhaber.com/assets/uploads/other/4381.jpg
http://c11.incisozluk.com.tr/res/incisozluk/11007/4/471904_o8882.jpg
http://cf.kizlarsoruyor.com/q5026084/4b89d92a-f498-435b-b35d-054965027a28.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DMkDg_gfGZk/V8SlbZ_dq0I/AAAAAAAAHZA/B2oPqWhoYW0wRTr95Wn3DfKeHMRdOGRIACLcB/s1600/aleyna-tilki-05.png


Also accordin to you, dark looking people are Turkish but light looking people are Greek. But so interesting, every people light, dark, blondie, swarthy from your post is Afghan ? Becouse your country is inclueding every kind people, a heaven of variety. But if I show pale people they are Greek. Lol :D

We can see pale people like photos I sent (especially students in my first post are quite common) in many region, Marmara, Ege, Blacksea, Central Anatolia, Akdeniz.. So its not a rare thing in here. We can see usually dark examples in east or southeast.
Example Hdp parliements:
http://ia.tmgrup.com.tr/cae210/0/0/0/0/2048/1549?u=http://i.tmgrup.com.tr/dailysabah/2016/05/21/1463847972710.jpg
http://image.cdn.iha.com.tr/Contents/store/img/928000/929905.jpg

Turkey is obviously less dark overall due to having less South Asian admixture and more influence from Caucasus / Balkans.

[Danishmend]

Example Hdp parliements:
http://ia.tmgrup.com.tr/cae210/0/0/0/0/2048/1549?u=http://i.tmgrup.com.tr/dailysabah/2016/05/21/1463847972710.jpg
http://image.cdn.iha.com.tr/Contents/store/img/928000/929905.jpg

Can these Kurdish MPs pass in Afghanistan?

[Trojka]

It's been proved Afghan Pashtuns are closer to Indians even. :)

[Böri]

People spend too much energy for this OWDer Paki. The Hindu Kush Kiro. It's not worth.

[Trojka]

The difference between Afghan Pashtuns and Indians:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-emnKCjUfE5o/UlOn3-UufeI/AAAAAAAABK0/fFqnlWrBepA/s1600/Cricket+teams+of+Afghanistan+&+LPU+posing+with+Chancellor+Afghan+University+suns hine+Mr+Ghulam+Nabizada+and+LPU+Chancellor+Mr+Asho k+Mittal.jpg

[user_]

I think that the reason why Pashtuns look kind of more "western" or "euro" than North Indians, is that they have a huge amount of Caucasian admixture (or west asian admixture), which Indians almost lack.

[Ylla]

You guys should take deeper look at admixture. Theres more to component than 'European' 'WHG'. These are people/cultures/tribes etc and WHG in Turks is from different source to Afghans and in South Asia

Think of Thracians Anatolians etc that lived in the region

[Pahli]

I think that the reason why Pashtuns look kind of more "western" or "euro" than North Indians, is that they have a huge amount of Caucasian admixture (or west asian admixture), which Indians almost lack.

North Indians actually have a decent amount of CHG, however they have more South Asian than Pashtuns which (obviously) makes them more darker. Take for example Brahui people, they are close to 60% CHG (Same as Georgians) but they have 25% South Asian.

[user_]

North Indians actually have a decent amount of CHG, however they have more South Asian than Pashtuns which (obviously) makes them more darker. Take for example Brahui people, they are close to 60% CHG (Same as Georgians) but they have 25% South Asian.

Even a few amount of South Asian, makes people look dark. Gypsies is a good exmple.

[Pahli]

Even a few amount of South Asian, makes people look dark. Gypsies is a good exmple.

It all depends, usually when you reach over 15 - 20% South Asian you'll notice that dark skin becomes more common.

[Trojka]

Indian genes are stronger than Negroid.This guy is only 8-10% South Asian (half romani) yet looks like this:

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=55816

Pashtuns are 30-40% so 4xtimes more Indian that that guy.

[Registan]

As I mentioned earlier, many Ghilzai and Durrani Pashtuns score NE Euro at Ishkashimi Tajik (a Pamiri group) and Khatlani Tajik levels, i.e., higher than all Brahmins and 95% of Jatts

Afghans are modeled as 50% KALASH/BURUSHO 50% CHECHEN/LEZGIN on many calculators, they are South Central Asian/Khorasani and form their own cluster with other East Iranics :picard2:

[Myanthropologies]

I'm afghan and so is my family and were not darker than the average Turkish family

[Myanthropologies]

It actually doesn't come from North Indians, they just received less NE-European than their Central Asian cousins, look at us West Iranians, we barely have any NE-European ancestry.

Pashtuns score A LOT more than 5%. They're almost 20% NE-EURO

[Ylla]

People spend too much energy for this OWDer Paki. The Hindu Kush Kiro. It's not worth.

please danishmend make comic of witness vs. myanthro

[Myanthropologies]

I already posted pca plots proving that they're closer to Afghans genetically, but have had no support for them being closer to Bulgarians other than claims.

[Ylla]

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish @ 7.386940
2 Armenia_ChL @ 9.107117
3 Balkar @ 10.169853
4 Jew_Ashkenazi @ 10.179307
5 Sicilian @ 10.552523
6 Italian_South @ 10.716121
7 Greek @ 11.017034
8 Kumyk @ 11.341947
9 Adygei @ 11.601872
10 Jew_Moroccan @ 11.881105
11 Albanian @ 12.456250
12 Jew_Tunisian @ 13.043322
13 Jew_Libyan @ 13.404822
14 Chechen @ 13.580419
15 Bulgarian @ 14.018643
16 Cypriot @ 14.151364
17 Azeri @ 15.069605
18 Lezgin @ 15.486932
19 Syrian @ 15.606226
20 Lebanese @ 15.606705

this is oracle of Turkish member, i cant even see pashtun anywhere

[Myanthropologies]

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish @ 7.386940
2 Armenia_ChL @ 9.107117
3 Balkar @ 10.169853
4 Jew_Ashkenazi @ 10.179307
5 Sicilian @ 10.552523
6 Italian_South @ 10.716121
7 Greek @ 11.017034
8 Kumyk @ 11.341947
9 Adygei @ 11.601872
10 Jew_Moroccan @ 11.881105
11 Albanian @ 12.456250
12 Jew_Tunisian @ 13.043322
13 Jew_Libyan @ 13.404822
14 Chechen @ 13.580419
15 Bulgarian @ 14.018643
16 Cypriot @ 14.151364
17 Azeri @ 15.069605
18 Lezgin @ 15.486932
19 Syrian @ 15.606226
20 Lebanese @ 15.606705

this is oracle of Turkish member, i cant even see pashtun anywhere

I've never seen amy average turk score only that far away from a Bulgarian. If they were so close, then why do you get southwest English in your oracles and not turks? Clearly this is atypical or a western turk.

Another member who everyone said looked ashkenazi jewish posted his dna idb test and it was closer to pashtuns than to the balkans.

[nightrider+]

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish @ 7.386940
2 Armenia_ChL @ 9.107117
3 Balkar @ 10.169853
4 Jew_Ashkenazi @ 10.179307
5 Sicilian @ 10.552523
6 Italian_South @ 10.716121
7 Greek @ 11.017034
8 Kumyk @ 11.341947
9 Adygei @ 11.601872
10 Jew_Moroccan @ 11.881105
11 Albanian @ 12.456250
12 Jew_Tunisian @ 13.043322
13 Jew_Libyan @ 13.404822
14 Chechen @ 13.580419
15 Bulgarian @ 14.018643
16 Cypriot @ 14.151364
17 Azeri @ 15.069605
18 Lezgin @ 15.486932
19 Syrian @ 15.606226
20 Lebanese @ 15.606705

this is oracle of Turkish member, i cant even see pashtun anywhere

It's just one sample, doesn't mean much. There's a minority of Turks that approaches the Blakans very much, yet most of them are far away:

http://i.imgur.com/QVUTzvf.png

[Myanthropologies]

The average turk is closer to all kinds of afghan tajiks than to Bulgarians according to eurogenes pcas based on the calculators:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tLc8zG4kvQk/VfkkEnimY6I/AAAAAAAADZw/6zc_ndYgBVM/s1206/West_Eurasian_PCA_ATP2.png
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Jy7IhA94GrhdfkBBjiPIhvpSuSD3lGeJnyv-3so4c4w=w1182-h631-n

[Ylla]

I've never seen amy average turk score only that far away from a Bulgarian. If they were so close, then why do you get southwest English in your oracles and not turks? Clearly this is atypical or a western turk.

Another member who everyone said looked ashkenazi jewish posted his dna idb test and it was closer to pashtuns than to the balkans.

because they are not like us either but to turkic north caucasians but even north Caucasus are closer to Balkans on pca. pred west-Eurasian people

[Myanthropologies]

Saying the average turk is closer to a Bulgarian than to an afghan is pretty much like saying Iranians are closer to Bulgarians too, and we all know that's nonsense.

[Ylla]

Saying the average turk is closer to a Bulgarian than to an afghan is pretty much like saying Iranians are closer to Bulgarians too, and we all know that's nonsense.

iranians and turks are worlds apart, they are not the same

[Myanthropologies]

because they are not like us either but to turkic north caucasians but even north Caucasus are closer to Balkans on pca. pred west-Eurasian people
No they're not. Not according to oracles. Afghans are predominately west Eurasian too, what else would they be?

[Myanthropologies]

Some afghans are closer to the north Caucasus than to India genetically.



Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Afghan_Pashtun @ 5,356033
2 Tajik_Pomiri @ 7,454045
3 Tadjik @ 9,063714
4 Pathan @ 11,778725
5 Afghan_Uzbek @ 13,225575
6 Afghan_Tadjik @ 13,379507
7 Brahui @ 13,672045
8 Burusho @ 14,081902
9 Lezgin @ 14,364709
10 Balochi @ 15,107577
11 Chechen @ 16,474325
12 GujaratiA @ 17,098363
13 Kalash @ 17,446236
14 Kumyk @ 18,13644
15 Balkar @ 18,34782
16 North_Ossetian @ 18,371049
17 Adygei @ 18,441658
18 Brahmin_UP @ 19,946317
19 Turkmen @ 21,949385
20 Punjabi @ 22,115596
259 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Burusho+Lezgin @ 2,323015
2 Burusho+Chechen @ 3,129354
3 Chechen+GujaratiA @ 3,18651
4 GujaratiA+Kumyk @ 3,751487
5 Balkar+GujaratiA @ 3,921542
6 Brahmin_UP+Chechen @ 3,965639
7 GujaratiA+North_Ossetian @ 4,008727
8 Afghan_Pashtun+Tajik_Pomiri @ 4,084433
9 GujaratiA+Lezgin @ 4,170068
10 Adygei+GujaratiA @ 4,194072

Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tajik_Pomiri @ 5,781324
2 Afghan_Pashtun @ 6,089563
3 Pathan @ 7,423369
4 Tadjik @ 7,725951
5 Kalash @ 9,694051
6 Afghan_Uzbek @ 10,583689
7 Afghan_Tadjik @ 10,606791
8 Burusho @ 10,638608
9 GujaratiA @ 11,559264
10 Brahui @ 11,918173
11 Balochi @ 12,529396
12 Kumyk @ 13,44837
13 Turkmen @ 14,266564
14 Balkar @ 14,515
15 North_Ossetian @ 14,732751
16 Nogai @ 15,432176
17 Afghan_Turkmen @ 15,515495
18 Brahmin_UP @ 15,769253
19 Iranian @ 15,813125
20 Adygei @ 15,835659
259 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Burusho+Lezgin @ 3,236478
2 GujaratiA+Lezgin @ 3,332307
3 Chechen+GujaratiA @ 3,525632
4 Lezgin+Pathan @ 3,794516
5 Burusho+Chechen @ 3,966627
6 Chechen+Pathan @ 4,17975
7 Pathan+Tajik_Pomiri @ 4,465679
8 Chechen+Kalash @ 4,639514
9 Kalash+Lezgin @ 4,673726
10 Afghan_Pashtun+Tajik_Pomiri @ 4,766173

Afghans are genetically diverse, and phenotypically as well. That's why it's stupid to assume things about them all.

[Ylla]

Afghans are genetically diverse, and phenotypically as well. That's why it's stupid to assume things about them all.
thats why we look at average, otherwise this thread is pointless, bulgarians and turks are diverse as well

[Myanthropologies]

thats why we look at average, otherwise this thread is pointless, bulgarians and turks are diverse as well

The average pashtun is between both north indians and North caucasians, and both the average north caucasian and turk are genetically (and phenotypically for Turks) closer to Afghans than to Balkanic people.

Are people gonna start saying Iranians are closer to Europeans too?

[Ylla]

The average pashtun is between both north indians and North caucasians, and both the average north caucasian and turk are genetically (and phenotypically for Turks) closer to Afghans than to Balkanic people.

Are people gonna start saying Iranians are closer to Europeans too?

i don't know... i got a different conclusion on oracle

[Myanthropologies]

i don't know... i got a different conclusion on oracle

What oracle?

[Kamal900]

Due on the fact that Turks have central asiatic admixture in their genepool , I'd say they're more closer to Iranics than to Bulgarians.

[user_]

wow, this are pamir tajiks, some of them look russian, caucasian, balkanian, or normal east european.
I would not expect this is south central asian mountains.
They look much much more european than many near eastern populations. Just look at their faces.
Amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6gTGurMBYQ

[Myanthropologies]

wow, this are pamir tajiks, some of them look russian, caucasian, balkanian, or normal east european.
I would not expect this is south central asian mountains.
They look much much more european than many near eastern populations. Just look at their faces.
Amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6gTGurMBYQ

Pamiri Tajiks are not whiter looking than other afghans really. They look like pashtuns more than anyone else.

[Myanthropologies]

My oldest sister actually looks exactly like a pamiri tajik

[user_]

Pamiri Tajiks are not whiter looking than other afghans really. They look like pashtuns more than anyone else.

Show me videos of pashtun weddings plz. As for me Pamiri Tajiks look much more white, than any other centrl asian population.


If pamirs dress like normal people, they look norml european, just look at the girl and she is tajik!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5EgJJHdokY

[Myanthropologies]

Show me videos of pashtun weddings plz. As for me Pamiri Tajiks look much more white, than any other centrl asian population.


If pamirs dress like normal people, they look norml european, just look at the girl and she is tajik!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5EgJJHdokY

Stop whitewashing our people. Pamiri Tajiks are not white and in fact a good portion of them look eastern asian influenced. They look more like pashtuns than they look like Europeans, they are a central asian people, and their genetics and language is closest to pashtuns.

My family has a lot of Pamiri looking people in it

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?186399-Classify-my-living-Afghan-Pashtun-family-members-relatives-etc

[Registan]

Show me videos of pashtun weddings plz. As for me Pamiri Tajiks look much more white, than any other centrl asian population.


If pamirs dress like normal people, they look norml european, just look at the girl and she is tajik!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5EgJJHdokY

They look like their immediate neighbors (other Tajiks from Badakhshan, Panjshiri Tajiks, Tajiks from southern Tajikistan, Chitralis, Nuristanis) and Pashtuns. That is who they are genetically closest to. You can find very light types in those regions as well. There are many swarthy Pamiris too.

[user_]

Stop whitewashing our people. Pamiri Tajiks are not white and in fact a good portion of them look eastern asian influenced. They look more like pashtuns than they look like Europeans, they are a central asian people, and their genetics and language is closest to pashtuns.

My family has a lot of Pamiri looking people in it

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?186399-Classify-my-living-Afghan-Pashtun-family-members-relatives-etc

I have seen your family million times here )) but your family cannot represent all Pashtuns. My mother looks polish, but that does not mean all Georgians look polish.
There are no videos with pashtuns on youtube or what?! Post here, and we will see.
I dont think pashtuns are as white as pamirs, but this is just my impression, maybe i'm wrong.
I was really surprised by pamiri tjiks.

[Myanthropologies]

I have seen your family million times here )) but your family cannot represent all Pashtuns. My mother looks polish, but that does not mean all Georgians look polish.
There are no videos with pashtuns on youtube or what?! Post here, and we will see.
I dont think pashtuns are as white as pamirs, but this is just my impression, maybe i'm wrong.
I was really surprised by pamiri tjiks.

Pashtuns are a much larger group than pamiris. Some pashtuns overlap with Pamiris even more than they do with pashtuns, that's why I don't share wedding videos to represent all videos, I share my family, who do overlap with pamirs. But I can tell you that pamiris are not much whiter. And I think this really stupid of you to start these who is whiter contests between two very related ethnic groups.

[user_]

Pashtuns are a much larger group than pamiris. Some pashtuns overlap with Pamiris even more than they do with pashtuns, that's why I don't share wedding videos to represent all videos, I share my family, who do overlap with pamirs. But I can tell you that pamiris are not much whiter. And I think this really stupid of you to start these who is whiter contests between two very related ethnic groups.

Idk when i compare Pamiri people with their northern neighbors (Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Kyrgizs) they look absolutely outstanding from that group of central asians.
I want to travel to Tajikistan to explore Pamir people :) Some of them have extremely cucasian face, some of them russian face.

Ok i found pashto wedding myself )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UbJ1kcXPLI
this group of people look more indian influenced, you cant find east euro faces, unlike among pamirs.
And look that pashtuns are more dark pigmented, than Pamiri Tajiks, and it's normal, cause Pashtuns live south from Tajikistan.
Of course i understand that pashtuns have big diversity, but we re talking about average pashtun.

[Myanthropologies]

Idk when i compare Pamiri people with their northern neighbors (Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Kyrgizs) they look absolutely outstanding from that group of central asians.
I want to travel to Tajikistan to explore Pamir people :) Some of them have extremely cucasian face, some of them russian face.

Ok i found pashto wedding myself )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UbJ1kcXPLI
this group of people look more indian influenced, you cant find east euro faces, unlike among pamirs.
And look that pashtuns are more dark pigmented, than Pamiri Tajiks, and it's normal, cause Pashtuns live south from Tajikistan.
Of course i understand that pashtuns have big diversity, but we re talking about average pashtun.

There is no "average pashtun" please throw the thought of an afghan pashtun average look away. Those people look nothing like my family and we are pashtuns. You also clearly looked for the darkest video because that's not the first one that comes up. Stop bringing this stupid whitewashing contest to central asia. Pamiris look like pashtuns more than they look like everyone else. And fuck you for only being obsessed with them because they look "white" to you.

[Myanthropologies]

Also a pashtun wedding

https://youtu.be/g6R-6Rx14Mw
Pashtuns vary a lot in looks and so do pamiris.

[Norka]

There is no "average pashtun" please throw the thought of an afghan pashtun average look away. Those people look nothing like my family and we are pashtuns. You also clearly looked for the darkest video because that's not the first one that comes up. Stop bringing this stupid whitewashing contest to central asia. Pamiris look like pashtuns more than they look like everyone else. And fuck you for only being obsessed with them because they look "white" to you.

PASHTUNS AND YOU ARE BOTH BROWN AND NON-WHITE LOOKING FFS JUST ACCEPT IT AND STOP BEING A OWD AFGHANO GYPSY. BE PROUD OF YOUR BROWN CHURKA ORIGINS

[Myanthropologies]

PASHTUNS AND YOU ARE BOTH BROWN AND NON-WHITE LOOKING FFS JUST ACCEPT IT AND STOP BEING A OWD AFGHANO GYPSY. BE PROUD OF YOUR BROWN CHURKA ORIGINS

We are not white. Just keep pamiri tajik out of your dirty mouths.