New Scythian and Sarmatian genomes from Eurasian steppe

[Kazbolat]

http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14615#f7

"Genomic inference reveals that Scythians in the east and the west of the steppe zone can best be described as a mixture of Yamnaya-related ancestry and an East Asian component. "

"The origin of the widespread Scythian culture has long been debated in Eurasian archaeology. The northern Black Sea steppe was originally considered the homeland and centre of the Scythians3 until Terenozhkin formulated the hypothesis of a Central Asian origin4. On the other hand, evidence supporting an east Eurasian origin includes the kurgan Arzhan 1 in Tuva5, which is considered the earliest Scythian kurgan5."

" From the western part of the Eurasian Steppe, samples discovered in the North Caucasus dating to the initial Scythian period (eighth to sixth century BCE), classical Scythians from the Don-Volga region (third century BCE), and Early Sarmatians from Pokrovka, southwest of the Ural (fifth to second century BCE), were included. "

" In our ADMIXTURE analyses we find an East Asian ancestry component at K=15 in all Iron Age samples that has not been detected in preceding Bronze Age populations in either western or eastern parts of the Eurasian Steppe."

"Theese findings are consistent with the appearance of east Eurasian mitochondrial lineages in the western Scythians during the Iron Age, and imply gene-flow or migration over the Eurasian Steppe belt carrying East Asian/North Siberian ancestry from the East to the West as far as the Don-Volga region in southern Russia."

"Contemporary descendants of western Scythian groups are found among various groups in the Caucasus and Central Asia, while similarities to eastern Scythian are found to be more widespread, but almost exclusively among Turkic language speaking (formerly) nomadic groups, particularly from the Kipchak branch of Turkic languages"



HAHAHAHA very Slavic-like indeed. I really want to see Polako's face. For years he portrayed Scythians as some kind of Slavic-like East Euro population, turned out even western Scythians did not resemble Slavs :picard2:

They are basically a mix of EHG, CHG and East Eurasian.

Scythian_Pazyryk 1: 65% East Eurasian
Scythian_Pazyryk 2: 55% East Eurasian
Scythian_AldyBel 1: 30% East Eurasian
Scythian_AldyBel 2: 50% East Eurasian
Scythian_ZevakinoChilikta 1: 25% East Eurasian
Scythian_ZevakinoChilikta 2: 50% East Eurasian
Scythian_Samara: 12% East Eurasian
Sarmatian: 10% East Eurasian
http://i.hizliresim.com/X0obgO.png
http://s10.ifotos.pl/img/scysarm3p_asharah.png

[Kazbolat]

https://scontent.fsaw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/17190486_1472540806129568_5406063728898777871_n.jp g?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=12a40590ec824a9f78a3fc90b22dd6ad&oe=5972EB94
https://scontent.fsaw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/17190845_1472541012796214_377569320448458260_n.jpg ?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=73cbd2287ed9e5f639020a0e5a144933&oe=592A86B6

[Kazbolat]

Comparison of Scythian and modern Iranian DNAs, they look like twins don't they
http://i.hizliresim.com/ZZVaaG.png (http://hizliresim.com/ZZVaaG)

[Kazbolat]

Bump :laugh:

Scythians according to Eurocentric wannabe-scythians:
http://www.realmofhistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/10-facts-scythians-warfare_2.jpg


Scythian according to modern genetic data:
http://archive.worldhistoria.com/uploads/6162/Bashkir2.jpg

[Pahli]

Do you have their gedmatch kit numbers? :cool:

Also not surprised about the East Eurasian admixture, Altai was the melting pot for Caucasoid and Mongoloid populations.

[Pennywise]

R1tards never learn.

[Ülev]

why do you even wonder, it's called Stockholm Syndrome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome) (of R1 ruled by Scythians)

[johen]

http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14615#f7

"Genomic inference reveals that Scythians in the east and the west of the steppe zone can best be described as a mixture of Yamnaya-related ancestry and an East Asian component. "

I would like to challenge this opinion. I think they should have revealed Malta admixture.
We can see the gene flow from Malta thru Okunevo/karashuk to Iron age Altai(scythian). East scythian gene did not come from yamna.
Their cranial series also have ties with okunevo (purebred of malta) and karasuk series.
https://s31.postimg.org/5qn0sb09n/Capture2.png

[NSXD60]

https://o40t.imgup.net/0012664.jpg (https://o40i.imgup.net/0012664.jpg)
https://j50t.imgup.net/fragment-oefd3.jpg (https://j50i.imgup.net/fragment-oefd3.jpg)
https://y15t.imgup.net/016fa3c5612409.jpg (https://y15i.imgup.net/016fa3c5612409.jpg)
https://d22t.imgup.net/9106132cb61.jpg (https://d22i.imgup.net/9106132cb61.jpg)
https://r57t.imgup.net/the-mummy-06eb.jpg (https://r57i.imgup.net/the-mummy-06eb.jpg)

Nuff said.

[RN97]

They varied a laaawt, but who's to say that they didn't look like some fairer uralics?

[Scholarios]

ahhh, butthurt relief.

[Kazbolat]

Where is RETHEL loool

[Herr Abubu]

Bump :laugh:

Scythians according to Eurocentric wannabe-scythians:
http://www.realmofhistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/10-facts-scythians-warfare_2.jpg


Scythian according to modern genetic data:
http://archive.worldhistoria.com/uploads/6162/Bashkir2.jpg

The Scythians were described exclusively as a fair group of people and were Indo-Aryans, so not likely. You seem to have quite an agenda, so you zoom in on one study on a few burials and ignore the bigger picture. From what I read, anthropological studies on Scythian remains shows them, for the most part, even in the east, Pazyryk, to have been "Europoid" racially. There are Mongoloid outliers here and there, but these are seen as foreign rather than native Scythian. Moreover, the Scythians were very likely not homogeneous, with Asiatic steppe peoples adopting Scythian culture and language after Scythian-Kurgan expansion, explaining diversity and racial divergence from the classical Scythians historians of antiquity made references to.

[Pennywise]

Kazbech = Danishmend/gultekin on TA and "basmaci" on anthrogenica.com

Read this thread (http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?9874-Ancestry-and-demography-and-descendants-of-Iron-Age-nomads-of-the-Eurasian-Steppe/) and compare the behavior of this retard on another forum. Seems we successfully tamed you on anthrogenica while TA mods allow you to have multiple accounts here because you just donated to this forum. Also funny how you act like a tough guy on TA while you are unable to write proper answers on anthrogenica threads. Cherrypicking and escaping as always.

From another thread:


Fucking moron. My quote was from the study:

You even deny and reject the study that linked by yourself because it does not fit in your agenda.

Hey Danishmend/Pecheng/Kazbech/gultekin/basmaci and many other socks

You're retarded as fuck. Enjoy trolling TA members. I just created this account to expose your disgusting personality. This is my last post so don't worry. I don't ruin your TA party.

Not sure who is Kazbech but none of those members are related you retarded Indian serial sockpuppet. LOL

[Pennywise]

Poor asshole, it's not necessary to whiteknight him because he knows that I'm right about him. Just eat your pills and relax. And I'm not related to your Indian brother. I'm an anthrogenica member who is very familiar with the retarded OP and history of his posts on several forums.

You are just a clueless dumbass.

[Voskos]

http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14615#f7

"Genomic inference reveals that Scythians in the east and the west of the steppe zone can best be described as a mixture of Yamnaya-related ancestry and an East Asian component. "

"The origin of the widespread Scythian culture has long been debated in Eurasian archaeology. The northern Black Sea steppe was originally considered the homeland and centre of the Scythians3 until Terenozhkin formulated the hypothesis of a Central Asian origin4. On the other hand, evidence supporting an east Eurasian origin includes the kurgan Arzhan 1 in Tuva5, which is considered the earliest Scythian kurgan5."

" From the western part of the Eurasian Steppe, samples discovered in the North Caucasus dating to the initial Scythian period (eighth to sixth century BCE), classical Scythians from the Don-Volga region (third century BCE), and Early Sarmatians from Pokrovka, southwest of the Ural (fifth to second century BCE), were included. "

" In our ADMIXTURE analyses we find an East Asian ancestry component at K=15 in all Iron Age samples that has not been detected in preceding Bronze Age populations in either western or eastern parts of the Eurasian Steppe."

"Theese findings are consistent with the appearance of east Eurasian mitochondrial lineages in the western Scythians during the Iron Age, and imply gene-flow or migration over the Eurasian Steppe belt carrying East Asian/North Siberian ancestry from the East to the West as far as the Don-Volga region in southern Russia."

"Contemporary descendants of western Scythian groups are found among various groups in the Caucasus and Central Asia, while similarities to eastern Scythian are found to be more widespread, but almost exclusively among Turkic language speaking (formerly) nomadic groups, particularly from the Kipchak branch of Turkic languages"



HAHAHAHA very Slavic-like indeed. I really want to see Polako's face. For years he portrayed Scythians as some kind of Slavic-like East Euro population, turned out even western Scythians did not resemble Slavs :picard2:

They are basically a mix of EHG, CHG and East Eurasian.

Scythian_Pazyryk 1: 65% East Eurasian
Scythian_Pazyryk 2: 55% East Eurasian
Scythian_AldyBel 1: 30% East Eurasian
Scythian_AldyBel 2: 50% East Eurasian
Scythian_ZevakinoChilikta 1: 25% East Eurasian
Scythian_ZevakinoChilikta 2: 50% East Eurasian
Scythian_Samara: 12% East Eurasian
Sarmatian: 10% East Eurasian
http://i.hizliresim.com/X0obgO.png
http://s10.ifotos.pl/img/scysarm3p_asharah.png

Danishmend you subhuman, your ftdna results were like 80 percent armenian. forget about scythians

[Deymark]

More hilarious than the indians claiming the aryans were from India.

[IncelSlayer]

Bump :laugh:

Scythians according to Eurocentric wannabe-scythians:
http://www.realmofhistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/10-facts-scythians-warfare_2.jpg


Scythian according to modern genetic data:
http://archive.worldhistoria.com/uploads/6162/Bashkir2.jpg

IDIOT.
What remained of scythians got conquered by hundreds of different asian tribes and thats what you tested.
You cannot fake historical quotes of scythians which describe them as blonde,sometimes redheaded , and very blue eyed.

[jingorex]

They dont release the Haplogroup findings in the article and that fucking haplogrep tool doesnt even list G1 in the test data.

I'm starting to think i am the son of god.

[Voskos]

They dont release the Haplogroup findings in the article and that fucking haplogrep tool doesnt even list G1 in the test data.

I'm starting to think i am the son of god.

you are indoeuropean

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Frequency_distribution_map_of_Y-chromosomal_haplogroup_G1-M285.PNG/1200px-Frequency_distribution_map_of_Y-chromosomal_haplogroup_G1-M285.PNG

[ButlerKing]

The Scythians were described exclusively as a fair group of people and were Indo-Aryans, so not likely. You seem to have quite an agenda, so you zoom in on one study on a few burials and ignore the bigger picture. From what I read, anthropological studies on Scythian remains shows them, for the most part, even in the east, Pazyryk, to have been "Europoid" racially. There are Mongoloid outliers here and there, but these are seen as foreign rather than native Scythian. Moreover, the Scythians were very likely not homogeneous, with Asiatic steppe peoples adopting Scythian culture and language after Scythian-Kurgan expansion, explaining diversity and racial divergence from the classical Scythians historians of antiquity made references to.

I never sold to the idea that they were pure nordic West Eurasian genetic people and simply because they were from Central Asia and I also believed their Caucasoid components would be like those of Caucasus.

Base on genetics and anthropology we can say that Scythians were already a Mongoloid/Caucasoid population even long before they started even conquering/Exanpding from East Europe to North India.

I once made a thread about Scythians being Mongoloid/Caucasoid hybrids instead of Caucasians.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?79150-Scythians-were-not-White-or-European-but-were-also-Mongoloid-Caucasoid-hybrid

Scythians can be claimed by people Caucasian but also by people Mongoloid/Caucasian groups and that's the point. A slav cannot claim them as just slavs

A lot of them properly looked uber aryans but.....
Scythians were properly anything from 1/6, 1/4, 1/3 Mongoloid
Example of mix race who are 1/4 and 1/3 Asian Mongoloid

Former Danish Princess Alexandra with her son Prince Nikolai

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/91/4c/73914c9ba902166d505e1c7d46051b16.jpg

Her Aryan sons who are 1/4 East Asian

https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000AIcRTGHaDrc/s/750/750/Queen-Birth-2003-ukp-2.jpg

[Leto]

Her Aryan sons who are 1/4 East Asian

She is actually only quarter Chinese. The boys have almost as much as Finns and Northern Russians may have (a bit more). However, Chinese blood is not the same as Siberian/Arctic.

[Proto-Shaman]

bump

[Joachim]

http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14615#f7

"Genomic inference reveals that Scythians in the east and the west of the steppe zone can best be described as a mixture of Yamnaya-related ancestry and an East Asian component. "

"The origin of the widespread Scythian culture has long been debated in Eurasian archaeology. The northern Black Sea steppe was originally considered the homeland and centre of the Scythians3 until Terenozhkin formulated the hypothesis of a Central Asian origin4. On the other hand, evidence supporting an east Eurasian origin includes the kurgan Arzhan 1 in Tuva5, which is considered the earliest Scythian kurgan5."

" From the western part of the Eurasian Steppe, samples discovered in the North Caucasus dating to the initial Scythian period (eighth to sixth century BCE), classical Scythians from the Don-Volga region (third century BCE), and Early Sarmatians from Pokrovka, southwest of the Ural (fifth to second century BCE), were included. "

" In our ADMIXTURE analyses we find an East Asian ancestry component at K=15 in all Iron Age samples that has not been detected in preceding Bronze Age populations in either western or eastern parts of the Eurasian Steppe."

"Theese findings are consistent with the appearance of east Eurasian mitochondrial lineages in the western Scythians during the Iron Age, and imply gene-flow or migration over the Eurasian Steppe belt carrying East Asian/North Siberian ancestry from the East to the West as far as the Don-Volga region in southern Russia."

"Contemporary descendants of western Scythian groups are found among various groups in the Caucasus and Central Asia, while similarities to eastern Scythian are found to be more widespread, but almost exclusively among Turkic language speaking (formerly) nomadic groups, particularly from the Kipchak branch of Turkic languages"



HAHAHAHA very Slavic-like indeed. I really want to see Polako's face. For years he portrayed Scythians as some kind of Slavic-like East Euro population, turned out even western Scythians did not resemble Slavs :picard2:

They are basically a mix of EHG, CHG and East Eurasian.

Scythian_Pazyryk 1: 65% East Eurasian
Scythian_Pazyryk 2: 55% East Eurasian
Scythian_AldyBel 1: 30% East Eurasian
Scythian_AldyBel 2: 50% East Eurasian
Scythian_ZevakinoChilikta 1: 25% East Eurasian
Scythian_ZevakinoChilikta 2: 50% East Eurasian
Scythian_Samara: 12% East Eurasian
Sarmatian: 10% East Eurasian
http://i.hizliresim.com/X0obgO.png
http://s10.ifotos.pl/img/scysarm3p_asharah.png

Bump.
White nationalist we wuzzing has been dead again and again but they won't learn.

Even the westernmost scythians were 30-50% bmac/tajik.
Closest people to western scythians,kushans,wusuns,yuezhí,ashina clan are tajiks.

The pamiri sakas who came to india were like 80% tajik+20% Finn.


No,you weren't hyperborean,soultrean,gravettian.

Native Americans,tajiks,North Indians,siberian kets,nenets have the highest gravettian/aurignacian/hyperborean/ANE Ancestry.
Europeans are mostly dzudzuana/eef+ minor whg+ minor ANE

[TheForeigner]

Bump.
White nationalist we wuzzing has been dead again and again but they won't learn.

Even the westernmost scythians were 30-50% bmac/tajik.
Closest people to western scythians,kushans,wusuns,yuezhí,ashina clan are tajiks.

The pamiri sakas who came to india were like 80% tajik+20% Finn.


No,you weren't hyperborean,soultrean,gravettian.

Native Americans,tajiks,North Indians,siberian kets,nenets have the highest gravettian/aurignacian/hyperborean/ANE Ancestry.
Europeans are mostly dzudzuana/eef+ minor whg+ minor ANE

Hahaha what a butthurt clown you are. I bet you are not even European. Europeans don't usually have the "we wuz" disease typical of blacks and don't need to have Scythians or to be related with "Solutrean early settlers of America". Europeans have the reality of having the greatest civilization that has ever existed, even though it's sadly dying out now.

[Dick]

Hyperboreans are a mythical people older than the ancient Greek chronicles, in other words they never existed. The ancient Egyptians believed that you go to the north upon death. The supreme deity of most cultures comes from the north. Why? Polaris or the north star/sky worshipping nonsense, the outermost star in the handle of the Little Dipper. As the Big dipper rotaes through the solstices (spring, winter, fall and summer) around Polaris it creates that symbol of what we call the swastika. It's pagan occult satanic garbage that's still being worshipped today but only in the west by the elites since the nazis apparently lost the war and most people are so unaware of it.

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/5J56NmvuXxtdM4wfjGJHM6.jpg
https://s3-eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/cartoons-s3/styles/product_detail_image/s3/cartoons/2018/07/nato_swastika__pete_kreiner.png?itok=wVEqcCyN

[ecptr]

Bump.
White nationalist we wuzzing has been dead again and again but they won't learn.

Even the westernmost scythians were 30-50% bmac/tajik.
Closest people to western scythians,kushans,wusuns,yuezhí,ashina clan are tajiks.

The pamiri sakas who came to india were like 80% tajik+20% Finn.


No,you weren't hyperborean,soultrean,gravettian.

Native Americans,tajiks,North Indians,siberian kets,nenets have the highest gravettian/aurignacian/hyperborean/ANE Ancestry.
Europeans are mostly dzudzuana/eef+ minor whg+ minor ANE

Dravidian admixture of Indians neglects the Aryan input your people have.