Post Your Afanasevo_Yamnaya score (GedrosiaDNA Eurasia K14)

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 37.43
2 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 17.28
3 Afansievo_Yamnaya 17
4 SW_Asian 14.77
5 SHG_WHG 6.83
6 Kalash 4.42
7 S_Indian 1.13
8 S_Amerindian 0.92
9 N_Amerindian 0.22

[Kelmendasi]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 37.43
2 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 17.28
3 Afansievo_Yamnaya 17
4 SW_Asian 14.77
5 SHG_WHG 6.83
6 Kalash 4.42
7 S_Indian 1.13
8 S_Amerindian 0.92
9 N_Amerindian 0.22
How come Balkan Neolithic is lower than Early European Neolithic?

[The Illyrian Warrior]

How come Balkan Neolithic is lower than Early European Neolithic?

I don't what's reference for Balkan Neolithic but is normal score for Balkanite, I saw other albanians score almost similar with me.

[Kelmendasi]

I don't what's reference for Balkan Neolithic but is normal score for Balkanite, I saw other albanians score almost similar with me.
It may be low as there is a small sample size for it

[de Burgh II]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 42.54
2 Afansievo_Yamnaya 18.28
3 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 12.12
4 SHG_WHG 9.06
5 SW_Asian 5.64
6 Kalash 4.26
7 S_Indian 3.29
8 S_Amerindian 2.5
9 E_African 1.21
10 Siberian 1.09

[frankhammer]

1 Early_European_Farmers 41.24
2 Afansievo_Yamnaya 17.63
3 SHG_WHG 14.35
4 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 12.24
5 SW_Asian 7.76
6 Kalash 4.6
7 S_Amerindian 1.53
8 E_African 0.33
9 S_Indian 0.32

[The Illyrian Warrior]

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[firemonkey]

# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 42.09
2 Afansievo_Yamnaya 18.51
3 SHG_WHG 14.06
4 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 11.99
5 SW_Asian 5.49
6 Kalash 2.48
7 S_Amerindian 2.14
8 N_Amerindian 2.11
9 SE_Asian 0.89
10 Papuan 0.24



Father


# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 43.55
2 Afansievo_Yamnaya 16.65
3 SHG_WHG 12.99
4 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 12.69
5 SW_Asian 6.51
6 Kalash 3.4
7 SE_Asian 3
8 S_Amerindian 0.64
9 E_African 0.57

[Kriptc06]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 30.83
2 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 14.92
3 Sub_Saharan 10.17
4 SHG_WHG 8.66
5 SW_Asian 7.96
6 Afansievo_Yamnaya 6.48
7 S_Amerindian 6.38 (Andid)
8 N_Amerindian 5.52
9 Kalash 3.38
10 S_Indian 2.41 (Negrito)
11 SE_Asian 2.16
12 Papuan 0.68
13 E_African 0.47

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Albanian 18.9 (:o)
2 Bulgarian 19.03 -> legit

[PunhetaDeBacalhau]

6.22 :shrug:

[Kriptc06]

6.22 :shrug:

what are your oracles? do you get bulgarian and albanian?

[PunhetaDeBacalhau]

what are your oracles? do you get bulgarian and albanian?

Yup, the Oracle in this calculator is a bit different from the others, the components seem more general. I get Bulgarian 3rd and Albanian 5th.

[Kriptc06]

Yup, the Oracle in this calculator is a bit different from the others, the components seem more general. I get Bulgarian 3rd and Albanian 5th.


interesting, here is my oracle:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Albanian @ 19.053465
2 Bulgarian @ 19.188971
3 Greek @ 19.249128
4 Sicilian @ 20.350225
5 Tuscan @ 20.582521
6 Spanish @ 21.052288

[Petalpusher]

14.59

There is a thread already about the neolithic_Balkan score of this calculator, maybe let's not make one for each component...

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?204180-How-much-quot-Neolithic-Balkan-Farmer-quot-do-you-get-on-Eurasia-K14/page4

[Norka]

19.09%
# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 43.10
2 Afansievo_Yamnaya 19.09
3 SHG_WHG 13.19
4 Siberian 6.10
5 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 5.28
6 Kalash 4.84
7 SE_Asian 3.33
8 SW_Asian 2.52
9 N_Amerindian

[Nilotik]

# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 38.98
2 SW_Asian 15.27
3 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 15.24
4 Afansievo_Yamnaya 13.98
5 SHG_WHG 6.23
6 Kalash 5.55
7 SE_Asian 2.26
8 S_Indian 1.93
9 N_Amerindian 0.52
10 Papuan 0.02

[Geni]

Population Percent
____________________________________________
1 Early_European_Farmers 40.06
2 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 17.39
3 SW_Asian 16.65
4 Afansievo_Yamnaya 9.52
5 SHG_WHG 7.54
6 Kalash 4.98
7 S_Amerindian 1.85
8 N_Amerindian 0.91
9 E_African 0.67
10 SE_Asian 0.43

Single Population Sharing:
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# Population (source) Distance
------------------------------------------------
1 Greek 3.85
2 Albanian 4.51
3 Tuscan 4.54
4 Sicilian 7.03
5 Bulgarian 7.44
6 Spanish 11.07
7 Croatian 13.74
8 Hungarian_BA3 14.27
9 French 14.54
10 Hungarian 17.29
11 HungaryGamba_BA1 17.53
12 Turkish 18.79
13 HungaryGamba_IA 18.89
14 English 19.13
15 Sardinian 19.42
16 Kumyk 19.57
17 Hungarian_BA7 19.92
18 French_South 19.97
19 Basque 20.21
20 Czech 20.53

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Let's see if any Albanian can beat my yamnaya score...

[oszkar07]

Eurasia K14 Oracle results:
# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 43.41
2 Afansievo_Yamnaya 18.25
3 SHG_WHG 13.6
4 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 9.2
5 SW_Asian 5.45
6 Kalash 4.91
7 S_Amerindian 2.55
8 Siberian 2.22
9 N_Amerindian 0.18
10 Papuan 0.13
11 SE_Asian 0.1

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 4.81
2 Ukrainian 5.94
3 Croatian 5.99
4 Czech 6.42
5 English 6.99
6 French 7.09
7 Scottish 7.69
8 Norwegian 8.43
9 Russian 10.18
10 Bell_Beaker_LN3 10.8
11 Bulgarian 11.19
12 HungaryGamba_IA 11.66
13 Finnish 11.75
14 Estonian 12.1
15 Lithuanian 13.52
16 Bell_Beaker_LN2 13.78
17 Spanish 13.83
18 HungaryGamba_BA1 14.85
19 Nordic_IA 15.53
20 Hungarian_BA8 16.06

[Antimage]

Eurasia K14 Oracle results:
# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 43.41
2 Afansievo_Yamnaya 18.25
3 SHG_WHG 13.6
4 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 9.2
5 SW_Asian 5.45
6 Kalash 4.91
7 S_Amerindian 2.55
8 Siberian 2.22
9 N_Amerindian 0.18
10 Papuan 0.13
11 SE_Asian 0.1

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 4.81
2 Ukrainian 5.94
3 Croatian 5.99
4 Czech 6.42
5 English 6.99
6 French 7.09
7 Scottish 7.69
8 Norwegian 8.43
9 Russian 10.18
10 Bell_Beaker_LN3 10.8
11 Bulgarian 11.19
12 HungaryGamba_IA 11.66
13 Finnish 11.75
14 Estonian 12.1
15 Lithuanian 13.52
16 Bell_Beaker_LN2 13.78
17 Spanish 13.83
18 HungaryGamba_BA1 14.85
19 Nordic_IA 15.53
20 Hungarian_BA8 16.06

I wonder if pure brits ever score siberian in k14? if not, your hungarian parent is over 4% siberian

[oszkar07]

I wonder if pure brits ever score siberian in k14? if not, your hungarian parent is over 4% siberian

Interesting point.
In Family Tree DNA, My Origins/Ethnic Make Up section they give me 2% Finland and Northern Siberia,
Not sure how their calculators vary from other sites but overall Im not a big fan of FTDNA , I prefer the calculators on Gedmatch and DNA Land.
Also in FamilyTreeDNA My Origins/Ethnic Makeup they give me 6% Middle Eastern ...Specifically = Asia Minor ...on their map this is highlighted as the region streching from Armenian Highlands in the East right across Turkey /Anatolia.
This percentage doesnt seem to come up in DNA Land ancestry report, however DNA Land ancestry report gives 21% Balkan, which does not come up in FTDNA.
What was your k14 Siberian score ?

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Interesting point.
In Family Tree DNA, My Origins/Ethnic Make Up section they give me 2% Finland and Northern Siberia,
Not sure how their calculators vary from other sites but overall Im not a big fan of FTDNA , I prefer the calculators on Gedmatch and DNA Land.

I got also Finland and Northern Siberia in ftdna (3%), got 1.8% Siberian in Dna.land but not as much Siberian in other calculators as I got in these two companies.

[Pahli]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Asian 26.77
2 Early_European_Farmers 26.01
3 Kalash 14.45
4 S_Indian 10.02
5 Afansievo_Yamnaya 9.33
6 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 8.84
7 Siberian 2.13
8 E_African 1.93
9 N_Amerindian 0.24
10 SHG_WHG 0.21
11 Sub_Saharan 0.07

[oszkar07]

I got also Finland and Northern Siberia in ftdna (3%), got 1.8% Siberian in Dna.land but not as much Siberian in other calculators as I got in these two companies.

just checked my DNA.Land... I uploaded my dna there which I originally did via FTDNA, I dont get any Siberian in dna.land
my results there are

West Eurasian 100%
Northwest European 40%
North Slavic 34%
Balkan 21%
Southwestern European 4.4% Sardinian 3.3%
Southwestern European 1%

[The Illyrian Warrior]

just checked my DNA.Land... I uploaded my dna there which I originally did via FTDNA, I dont get any Siberian in dna.land
my results there are

West Eurasian 100%
Northwest European 40%
North Slavic 34%
Balkan 21%
Southwestern European 4.4% Sardinian 3.3%
Southwestern European 1%
Mine
http://i66.tinypic.com/2yjrcba.jpg

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Afansievo Yamnaya 11.02%

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000iqDhDR0hVKI/s/900/900/006956-01.jpg

[oszkar07]

Re: Illyrian Warrior Post.

Very interesting... is Siberian common to Albanians ?

slightly off subject but Im curious do you know about any theories that distantly relate Albanians and Armenians.
I read somewhere about the idea that Armenians possibly originated in the Balkans with possible Pelasgian origins.
My wife is Armenian.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

More like this ^
http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p515/aphetor/yamnaya.jpg

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Very interesting... is Siberian common to Albanians ?

slightly off subject but Im curious do you know about any theories that distantly relate Albanians and Armenians.
I read somewhere about the idea that Armenians possibly originated in the Balkans with possible Pelasgian origins.
My wife is Armenian.

So far none that I know of (talking about Finland & northern Siberia component in ftdna), that's why I'm curious to know more about this component as seems to be by far the most northeastern component, some Slavs could possibly have it, certainly Hungarians should score but Albanians no, at least not that I know of.

Sorry but pelasgian and armenia link is really BS theory, not slightest possible....Where have you read that if you don't mind asking?

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

So far none that I know of (talking about Finland & northern Siberia component in ftdna), that's why I'm curious to know more about this component as seems to be by far the most northeastern component, some Slavs could possibly have it, certainly Hungarians should score but Albanians no, at least not that I know of.

I scored 5% on FTDNA Finland & Northen Siberia, more than British Isles actually which is curious.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

I scored 5% on FTDNA Finland & Northen Siberia, more than British Isles actually which is curious.

Have you got any clue from which source may possibly originate from in you?

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Have you got any clue from which source may possibly originate from in you?

No clue, but I'm 1/4 "Nordic" so it probably comes from that side. FTDNA Finland & Northen Siberia cluster has its roots in Saami, Uralic, Russian, Swedish, etc. I got really weird results on FTDNA anyway, they don't seem very coherent with others I have done.

[Ylla]

# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 40.26
2 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 17.04
3 SW_Asian 15.2
4 Afansievo_Yamnaya 12.98
5 SHG_WHG 7.16
6 Kalash 2.43
7 SE_Asian 2.35
8 S_Indian 1.88
9 S_Amerindian 0.64
10 Papuan 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 5.23
2 Albanian 5.52
3 Tuscan 6.24
4 Bulgarian 6.34
5 Sicilian 8.71
6 Spanish 10.87
7 Croatian 11.65
8 French 12.72
9 Hungarian 15.16
10 HungaryGamba_IA 16.02
11 HungaryGamba_BA1 16.78
12 English 17.46
13 Hungarian_BA3 17.64
14 Czech 18.41
15 Hungarian_BA7 18.58
16 Bell_Beaker_LN4 18.76
17 French_South 19.02
18 Kumyk 19.36
19 Scottish 19.67
20 Ukrainian 19.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.7% Tuscan + 11.3% Sintashta_BA @ 2.86
2 91.9% Tuscan + 8.1% Corded_Ware_LN1 @ 2.92
3 90.8% Tuscan + 9.2% Benzigerode_LN2 @ 2.97
4 91.8% Tuscan + 8.2% Corded_Ware_BA7 @ 2.98
5 87.8% Tuscan + 12.2% Bell_Beaker_LN6 @ 3.06
6 91.1% Tuscan + 8.9% Nordic_BA2 @ 3.32
7 88.4% Tuscan + 11.6% Andronovo_BA3 @ 3.32
8 93.6% Tuscan + 6.4% Corded_Ware_BA5 @ 3.33
9 85.7% Tuscan + 14.3% Benzigerode_LN3 @ 3.37
10 93.8% Tuscan + 6.2% Stalingrad_EBA @ 3.39
11 94% Tuscan + 6% Yamnaya_BA2 @ 3.39
12 86.8% Tuscan + 13.2% Corded_Ware_BA4 @ 3.39
13 91.6% Tuscan + 8.4% Armenian_BA4 @ 3.46
14 91.8% Tuscan + 8.2% Nordic_BA3 @ 3.48
15 64.9% French_South + 35.1% Assyrian @ 3.5
16 89.2% Greek + 10.8% Unetice_BA2 @ 3.52
17 91.2% Tuscan + 8.8% Karsdorf_LN @ 3.53
18 91.6% Tuscan + 8.4% Lithuanian_LBA @ 3.53
19 90.1% Tuscan + 9.9% Unetice_BA3 @ 3.53
20 88.5% Tuscan + 11.5% Andronovo_BA1 @ 3.53

[oszkar07]

So far none that I know of (talking about Finland & northern Siberia component in ftdna), that's why I'm curious to know more about this component as seems to be by far the most northeastern component, some Slavs could possibly have it, certainly Hungarians should score but Albanians no, at least not that I know of.

Sorry but pelasgian and armenia link is really BS theory, not slightest possible....Where have you read that if you don't mind asking?

There was a guy whom studies Pelasgians, I cant recall his name but he wrote something about it.
Also my wife and I spoke with a Kosovar Albanian guy when he found out my wife was Armenian , he was talking about this idea of a distant connection between Armo's and Albanians. There is the theory that Armo's very distantly have some relation to Greeks also at least some distant linguistic connection.But the general theory I mentioned suggests they are a mix of very old Balkan/South Euro stock and old Anatollian stock like the Urartians and Hurrians.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

There was a guy whom studies Pelasgians, I cant recall his name but he wrote something about it.
Also my wife and I spoke with a Kosovar Albanian guy when he found out my wife was Armenian , he was talking about this idea of a distant connection between Armo's and Albanians. There is the theory that Armo's very distantly have some relation to Greeks also at least some distant linguistic connection.But the general theory I mentioned suggests they are a mix of very old Balkan/South Euro stock and old Anatollian stock like the Urartians and Hurrians.

We have a linguistic connection with armos through very old branches of indo-European language but wouldn't say that armenians were at one point pelasgian or had any connection with that population, armenians most probably originate from exact area where they are now and wouldn't say they've evolved in Balkans and latter on migrated in anatolia.

[cass]

simplified model for GedrosiaDNA Eurasia K14


Yamnaya,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.25,0.55,0.00,0.90,54.49,0 .00,0.72,0.00,0.00,41.92,1.16
Loschbour,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,22.43,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,77.56,0.00
Motala_HG,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,99.99,0.00
Nganasan,0.00,0.00,97.11,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.00, 0.00,1.21,0.00,0.00,1.10,0.24
Spain_EN,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,99.99,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Ju_hoan_North,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,99.99,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
BedouinB,0.32,0.05,0.06,0.02,0.10,2.63,0.15,9.89,0 .59,0.09,0.70,82.55,2.62,0.23
Starcevo_EN,0.64,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,86.25,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,13.11,0.00,0.00

Target: cass
Distance: 118.5514% / 1.18551435
53.0 Yamnaya
28.8 Spain_EN
8.0 Loschbour
6.4 Starcevo_EN
1.8 BedouinB
1.4 Nganasan
0.6 Motala_HG


Corded version

Loschbour,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,22.43,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,77.56,0.00
Motala_HG,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,99.99,0.00
Nganasan,0.00,0.00,97.11,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.00, 0.00,1.21,0.00,0.00,1.10,0.24
Spain_EN,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,99.99,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Ju_hoan_North,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,99.99,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
BedouinB,0.32,0.05,0.06,0.02,0.10,2.63,0.15,9.89,0 .59,0.09,0.70,82.55,2.62,0.23
Starcevo_EN,0.64,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,86.25,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,13.11,0.00,0.00

Corded_Ware_LN,0.84,0.11,0.00,0.25,0.08,14.75,0.98 ,41.20,0.13,0.36,0.02,0.16,40.72,0.41
Target: cass
Distance: 82.7794% / 0.82779397
69.6 Corded_Ware_LN
23.4 Spain_EN
2.8 Starcevo_EN
2.2 BedouinB
1.4 Nganasan
0.6 Motala_HG

[Vessna]

# Population Percent
1 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 46.76
2 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 27.68
3 CAUCASUS 12.44
4 SW_ASIAN 6.09
5 BALOCHI 4.51
6 INDO_TIBETAN 1.16
7 E_SIBERIAN 0.9
8 S_INDIAN 0.29
9 SE_ASIAN 0.11
10 SUB_SAHARAN 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Norwegian 12.2
2 Russian 17.09
3 Finnish 21.82
4 Estonian 23.8
5 Lithuanian 24.99
6 Greek 30.18
7 Sicilian 36.62
8 Turks_Istanbul 39.53
9 Tajik_Pomiri 40.57
10 Turks_Aydin 42.63
11 Turks_Balikesir 43.17
12 Turkmen_Afghan 43.49
13 Uzbek 44.84
14 Kurds_C 46.17
15 Kurds_N 46.83
16 Tajik_Afghan 47.89
17 Uzbek_Afghan 48
18 Turks_Adana 48.37
19 Kurds_F 48.55
20 Kurds_E 49