View Full Version : Which is highest/lowest: Slavic in Greece, Norman in Sicily, or Moorish in Iberia?
Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 08:55 PM
Rank please.
Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 09:00 PM
I know which should be first, the question is how to rank the other two.
is there actual admixture from Slav invaders in Greece or is it from ancient IE's?
Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 09:14 PM
is there actual admixture from Slav invaders in Greece or is it from ancient IE's?
No one will know until we have ancient Greek autosomal DNA.
No one will know until we have ancient Greek autosomal DNA.
I'm sure there's many to be found. What are they waiting for?
Mn The Loki TA Son
05-13-2017, 09:18 PM
Slavic in Greece > Norman in Sicily > Moorish in Iberia.
Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 09:20 PM
Slavic in Greece > Norman in Sicily > Moorish in Iberia.
I think I would say the same but I am unsure on the last two.
Damiăo de Góis
05-13-2017, 09:22 PM
What is being measured exactly?
Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 09:23 PM
What is being measured exactly?
DNA.
Voskos
05-13-2017, 09:23 PM
I'm sure there's many to be found. What are they waiting for?
they tested mycenean and minoan guys a whie ago but they only managed to get mtdna results.not sure why
Megadorian
05-13-2017, 09:24 PM
Didn't a previous study state that slavic adminixture was unexistant-very low in the areas like Mani, Lakonia(Mt Taygetos area home of tsakonians) and Crete? 0-5% right?
Voskos
05-13-2017, 09:26 PM
http://dienekes.blogspot.gr/2008/05/mtdna-from-grave-circle-b-in-mycenae_07.html
http://dienekes.blogspot.gr/2013/05/mtdna-from-minoan-crete-hughey-et-al.html
Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 09:26 PM
Didn't a previous study state that slavic adminixture was unexistant-very low in the areas like Mani, Lakonia(Mt Taygetos area home of tsakonians) and Crete? 0-5% right?
Yes, but you also have places like Epirus, Thessaly, Thrace, and Macedonia.
Cretans are genetically close to Sicilians. Southern Peloponnesians can be as well. But I mean Greece overall here.
Damiăo de Góis
05-13-2017, 09:31 PM
DNA.
Then the closest you'll get with speculation is by looking at Y-DNA, which is counting R1a in greeks, I1 in Sicilians and E-M81 in iberians.
And even so that's highly speculative.
Mn The Loki TA Son
05-13-2017, 09:32 PM
I think I would say the same but I am unsure on the last two.
I say it like that and taking consideration results for what each gets.
A Sicilian scores around 15%North Euro in gedmatch Dodecad, that must be due to Norman input.
While a Greek mainland like Thessalian today tend to score both high Baltic AND North Sea/Atlantic. And Iberians tend to score from 0-4%to 6% I think from what I seen in for North African score.
I think if compare an Canarian, it would be an unsure one. As they can score from 4-6% to high as 15%+ North African.
MysteriousWays
05-13-2017, 09:33 PM
Slavic in Greece>Norman in Sicily>Moorish in Iberia
Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 09:41 PM
Slavic in Greece>Norman in Sicily>Moorish in Iberia
I think I'd go with this order.
Erronkari
05-14-2017, 12:28 AM
First option doesn't lie...!
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