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Mortimer
05-25-2017, 02:59 AM
Whoever doubtet me that im "mixed"


puntdnal 13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 29.85
2 NE_Europe 24.42
3 West_Asia 21.26
4 South_Asia 10.89
5 SW_Asia 7.31
6 SE_Asia 1.67
7 NE_Asia 1.42
8 Oceania 1.24
9 Americas 0.87
10 West_Africa 0.59
11 Siberia 0.34
12 South_Africa 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romani 10.86
2 Romanian 13.34
3 Greek_Thessaly 13.37
4 Bulgarian 13.38
5 Albanian 13.44
6 Kosovar 14.01
7 Greek_Central 14.13
8 Macedonian 15.09
9 Italian_Tuscan 15.8
10 Italian_Abruzzo 16.09
11 Montenegrin 16.31
12 Ashkenazy_Jew 17.01
13 Serbian 17.36
14 Italian_Sicilian 18.02
15 Turkish_Aydin 19.18
16 Italian_Bergamo 19.48
17 Turkish 19.78
18 Kumyk 20.04
19 Moldavian 20.27
20 Bosnian 20.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.4% Kosovar + 19.6% Gond @ 2.25
2 78.1% Kosovar + 21.9% Bengali @ 2.43
3 78.8% Albanian + 21.2% Bengali @ 2.67
4 81.3% Albanian + 18.7% Gond @ 2.98
5 80.6% Kosovar + 19.4% Chenchus @ 2.99
6 76% Italian_Tuscan + 24% Bengali @ 3.09
7 80.2% Kosovar + 19.8% UP_Muslim @ 3.09
8 81.7% Kosovar + 18.3% North_Kannadi @ 3.12
9 79.1% Greek_Thessaly + 20.9% Bengali @ 3.19
10 64.9% Italian_Bergamo + 35.1% Burusho @ 3.22
11 81.4% Greek_Thessaly + 18.6% Gond @ 3.23
12 80.4% Kosovar + 19.6% Tamil_Nadu_Caste @ 3.23
13 81.7% Kosovar + 18.3% Sakilli @ 3.23
14 80.9% Kosovar + 19.1% Piramalai_Kallars @ 3.25
15 56.8% Romani + 43.2% Kosovar @ 3.36
16 65% Romani + 35% Italian_Bergamo @ 3.4
17 58.8% Romani + 41.2% Macedonian @ 3.4
18 80.9% Albanian + 19.1% UP_Muslim @ 3.41
19 55.8% Romani + 44.2% Albanian @ 3.44
20 82.5% Kosovar + 17.5% Pulliyar @ 3.46

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI28vs1fpl0

Hadouken
05-25-2017, 03:02 AM
lol :D

but distance is 10.86 which means it is not THAT close . especially not a close match for number 1 in the list

and your 2 population gives you

56.8% Romani + 43.2% Kosovar @ 3.36
65% Romani + 35% Italian_Bergamo @ 3.4
58.8% Romani + 41.2% Macedonian @ 3.4

which is pretty accurate regarding your ancestry mix :)

what is interesting is the fact that despite you being only a little more than 50% romani ancestry wise you get

4. South_Asia 10.89

which on itself is not that much but if you were full roma you would probably get 20-25% which again shows the indian roots of roma :)

Mortimer
05-25-2017, 03:05 AM
lol :D

but distance is 10.86 which means it is not THAT close . especially not a close match for number 1 in the list

and your 2 population gives you

15 56.8% Romani + 43.2% Kosovar @ 3.36
16 65% Romani + 35% Italian_Bergamo @ 3.4
17 58.8% Romani + 41.2% Macedonian @ 3.4

which is pretty accurate regarding your ancestry mix :)

what is interesting is the fact that despite you being only a little more than 50% romani ancestry wise you get

4. South_Asia 10.89

which on itself is not that much but if you were full roma you would probably get 20-25% which again shows the indian roots of roma :)

it shows the indian roots of roma, thats well documented even. i think its widely accepted. also 10% is not all of my southasian, on WeGene Im 25% i think WeGene is best for me

Hadouken
05-25-2017, 03:11 AM
it shows the indian roots of roma, thats well documented even. i think its widely accepted. also 10% is not all of my southasian, on WeGene Im 25% i think WeGene is best for me

wegene is not good . they have horrible sample sizing . I didnt try it myself though . it is actually meant to work best for east asians and is also made by east asians

gedmatch is the best to show your real south asian ancestry imo . and 23andme for the last 500 years (how much do yous score there ? )

Mortimer
05-25-2017, 03:12 AM
wegene is not good . they have horrible sample sizing . I didnt try it myself though . it is actually meant to work best for east asians and is also made by east asians

gedmatch is the best to show your real south asian ancestry imo . and 23andme for the last 500 years (how much do yous score there ? )

i score 15% on 23andme but 17% on ftdna, i think WeGene is good for me maybe its not the same for everyone.

zhaoyun
05-25-2017, 03:24 AM
You have significant Euro admixture though. You have Roma ancestry, but I would say at most you are a hybrid.

Mortimer
05-25-2017, 03:42 AM
You have significant Euro admixture though. You have Roma ancestry, but I would say at most you are a hybrid.

i dont know if meant like that or intendendet but to me this sounds as if im only a little roma or not much, but im 2/3

Kriptc06
05-25-2017, 03:58 AM
you have less south asian than I native american :D :rolleyes:

Mortimer
05-25-2017, 03:59 AM
you have less south asian than my native american :D :rolleyes:

well roma are not purely southasian, my roma is 2/3 its wrong to equal roma with southasian exactly

Kriptc06
05-25-2017, 04:01 AM
well roma are not purely southasian, my roma is 2/3 its wrong to equal roma with southasian exactly

I have 0.X south asian in this one, puntdnal k13, wanna see mine?

Mortimer
05-25-2017, 04:01 AM
I have 0.X south asian in this one, puntdnal k13, wanna see mine?

ok post it bro i have some native american too but i doubt this is real, those are noises like your southasian

Mn The Loki TA Son
05-25-2017, 04:03 AM
wegene is not good . they have horrible sample sizing . I didnt try it myself though . it is actually meant to work best for east asians and is also made by east asians

gedmatch is the best to show your real south asian ancestry imo . and 23andme for the last 500 years (how much do yous score there ? )

Yeah!!

Kriptc06
05-25-2017, 04:06 AM
ok post it bro i have some native american too but i doubt this is real, those are noises like your southasian
# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 32.47
2 NE_Europe 24.65
3 Americas 12.76
4 West_Africa 10.69
5 West_Asia 8.9
6 SW_Asia 7.38
7 Siberia 0.97
8 East_Africa 0.9
9 South_Asia 0.66
10 Oceania 0.52
11 South_Africa 0.06
12 SE_Asia 0.05

oracle
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.5% Puerto_Rican + 12.5% Tatar @ 3.71
2 89.6% Puerto_Rican + 10.4% Chuvash @ 3.85
3 88.9% Puerto_Rican + 11.1% Aluet @ 3.88
4 90.1% Puerto_Rican + 9.9% Mordovian @ 4.02
5 92.6% Puerto_Rican + 7.4% Finnish @ 4.1
6 90.4% Puerto_Rican + 9.6% Chechen @ 4.14
7 90.8% Puerto_Rican + 9.2% Russian @ 4.15
8 90.7% Puerto_Rican + 9.3% Tadjik @ 4.16
9 92.2% Puerto_Rican + 7.8% Latvian @ 4.32
10 91.5% Puerto_Rican + 8.5% Polish @ 4.35
11 92.2% Puerto_Rican + 7.8% Lithuanian @ 4.36
12 92.4% Puerto_Rican + 7.6% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.38
13 92% Puerto_Rican + 8% Estonian @ 4.39
14 87.3% Puerto_Rican + 12.7% Moldavian @ 4.41
15 90.7% Puerto_Rican + 9.3% Belarusian @ 4.41
16 89.7% Puerto_Rican + 10.3% Ukrainian @ 4.42
17 90.3% Puerto_Rican + 9.7% Kumyk @ 4.46
18 88.7% Puerto_Rican + 11.3% Slovak @ 4.51
19 93% Puerto_Rican + 7% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 4.52
20 93.2% Puerto_Rican + 6.8% Pathan @ 4.53

###
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Dominican +25% Mexican @ 3.758543


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Dominican + Mexican + Romanian + Spaniard @ 0.976252
2 Dominican + Mexican + Montenegrin + Spaniard @ 1.328596
3 Bulgarian + Dominican + Mexican + Spaniard @ 1.428613
4 Dominican + French + Italian_Tuscan + Mexican @ 1.475223
5 Dominican + Macedonian + Mexican + Spaniard @ 1.498401
6 Albanian + Dominican + French + Mexican @ 1.540979
7 Belgian + Dominican + Italian_Abruzzo + Mexican @ 1.667409
8 Dominican + French + Greek_Thessaly + Mexican @ 1.686932
9 Dominican + Mexican + Serbian + Spaniard @ 1.709459
10 Dominican + French + Kosovar + Mexican @ 1.725881
11 Belgian + Dominican + Italian_Tuscan + Mexican @ 1.741583
12 Dominican + Italian_Abruzzo + Mexican + Utahn_European @ 1.761872
13 Dominican + Italian_Bergamo + Mexican + Serbian @ 1.785237
14 Dominican + English + Italian_Abruzzo + Mexican @ 1.839774
15 Albanian + Belgian + Dominican + Mexican @ 1.953399
16 Dominican + Italian_Abruzzo + Mexican + Orcadian @ 1.955010
17 Belgian + Dominican + Greek_Thessaly + Mexican @ 1.998960
18 Bosnian + Dominican + Italian_Bergamo + Mexican @ 2.004457
19 Dominican + Irish + Italian_Abruzzo + Mexican @ 2.022405
20 Dominican + German_South + Italian_Tuscan + Mexican @ 2.044690

Fractal
05-25-2017, 04:15 AM
it shows the indian roots of roma, thats well documented even. i think its widely accepted. also 10% is not all of my southasian, on WeGene Im 25% i think WeGene is best for me

You will learn to be proud of being a gypsy.

Mortimer
05-25-2017, 04:22 AM
You will learn to be proud of being a gypsy.

im proud to be a gypsy dude. you say things which are not true or false flag argument i think it is called. you say something which is not true and than you postulate a discussion on basis of a untrue comment.

Mortimer
05-25-2017, 04:22 AM
# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 32.47
2 NE_Europe 24.65
3 Americas 12.76
4 West_Africa 10.69
5 West_Asia 8.9
6 SW_Asia 7.38
7 Siberia 0.97
8 East_Africa 0.9
9 South_Asia 0.66
10 Oceania 0.52
11 South_Africa 0.06
12 SE_Asia 0.05

oracle
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.5% Puerto_Rican + 12.5% Tatar @ 3.71
2 89.6% Puerto_Rican + 10.4% Chuvash @ 3.85
3 88.9% Puerto_Rican + 11.1% Aluet @ 3.88
4 90.1% Puerto_Rican + 9.9% Mordovian @ 4.02
5 92.6% Puerto_Rican + 7.4% Finnish @ 4.1
6 90.4% Puerto_Rican + 9.6% Chechen @ 4.14
7 90.8% Puerto_Rican + 9.2% Russian @ 4.15
8 90.7% Puerto_Rican + 9.3% Tadjik @ 4.16
9 92.2% Puerto_Rican + 7.8% Latvian @ 4.32
10 91.5% Puerto_Rican + 8.5% Polish @ 4.35
11 92.2% Puerto_Rican + 7.8% Lithuanian @ 4.36
12 92.4% Puerto_Rican + 7.6% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.38
13 92% Puerto_Rican + 8% Estonian @ 4.39
14 87.3% Puerto_Rican + 12.7% Moldavian @ 4.41
15 90.7% Puerto_Rican + 9.3% Belarusian @ 4.41
16 89.7% Puerto_Rican + 10.3% Ukrainian @ 4.42
17 90.3% Puerto_Rican + 9.7% Kumyk @ 4.46
18 88.7% Puerto_Rican + 11.3% Slovak @ 4.51
19 93% Puerto_Rican + 7% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 4.52
20 93.2% Puerto_Rican + 6.8% Pathan @ 4.53

###
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Dominican +25% Mexican @ 3.758543


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Dominican + Mexican + Romanian + Spaniard @ 0.976252
2 Dominican + Mexican + Montenegrin + Spaniard @ 1.328596
3 Bulgarian + Dominican + Mexican + Spaniard @ 1.428613
4 Dominican + French + Italian_Tuscan + Mexican @ 1.475223
5 Dominican + Macedonian + Mexican + Spaniard @ 1.498401
6 Albanian + Dominican + French + Mexican @ 1.540979
7 Belgian + Dominican + Italian_Abruzzo + Mexican @ 1.667409
8 Dominican + French + Greek_Thessaly + Mexican @ 1.686932
9 Dominican + Mexican + Serbian + Spaniard @ 1.709459
10 Dominican + French + Kosovar + Mexican @ 1.725881
11 Belgian + Dominican + Italian_Tuscan + Mexican @ 1.741583
12 Dominican + Italian_Abruzzo + Mexican + Utahn_European @ 1.761872
13 Dominican + Italian_Bergamo + Mexican + Serbian @ 1.785237
14 Dominican + English + Italian_Abruzzo + Mexican @ 1.839774
15 Albanian + Belgian + Dominican + Mexican @ 1.953399
16 Dominican + Italian_Abruzzo + Mexican + Orcadian @ 1.955010
17 Belgian + Dominican + Greek_Thessaly + Mexican @ 1.998960
18 Bosnian + Dominican + Italian_Bergamo + Mexican @ 2.004457
19 Dominican + Irish + Italian_Abruzzo + Mexican @ 2.022405
20 Dominican + German_South + Italian_Tuscan + Mexican @ 2.044690




cool results bro, btw you look fully white.

Fractal
05-25-2017, 04:24 AM
im proud to be a gypsy dude. you say things which are not true or false flag argument i think it is called. you say something which is not true and than you postulate a discussion on basis of a untrue comment.

Modi and Indian nationalists have respect for Roma.

Fractal
05-25-2017, 04:25 AM
im proud to be a gypsy dude. you say things which are not true or false flag argument i think it is called. you say something which is not true and than you postulate a discussion on basis of a untrue comment.

Modi and Indian nationalists have respect for Roma. Because of your South Asian roots.

(double post oops)

Mortimer
05-25-2017, 04:27 AM
Modi and Indian nationalists have respect for Roma. Because of your South Asian roots.

(double post oops)

thanks. i know some indians who like roma like rajan zed (he likely is a hindu nationalist) http://www.rajanzed.org/

Mortimer
05-25-2017, 04:29 AM
Modi and Indian nationalists have respect for Roma. Because of your South Asian roots.

(double post oops)

http://www.rajanzed.org/hindus-want-apology-from-french-president-hollande-on-burial-denial-to-roma-baby/

Lucas
05-25-2017, 12:58 PM
Can you tell me in what other calculators there is Romani reference? Is it first?

Mortimer
05-25-2017, 01:06 PM
Can you tell me in what other calculators there is Romani reference? Is it first?

There was a good mdlp with romani but it was taken down

turbosat
05-25-2017, 01:55 PM
it shows the indian roots of roma, thats well documented even. i think its widely accepted. also 10% is not all of my southasian, on WeGene Im 25% i think WeGene is best for me

All Roma people who have non-Indian HGs will have non-Roma origins (roots) less than 1500 years ago (at most). 1500 years ago is approximately when original Roma left India/Pakistan.

You said your father was mostly Serb (?), so your father's side cannot have been Roma for too long. Your mother's original direct maternal ancestor was also non-Roma not more than 1500 years ago which we can tell due to your mtDna. It means that she is also of non-Roma roots. Genetic test on her might show when her ancestor joined into Roma people.

Therefore your direct descent roots are from non-Roma, though you are a Roma. You have South Asian ancestry (25% or less) via all your other ancestors who had Roma roots.

turbosat
05-25-2017, 05:03 PM
lol :D

but distance is 10.86 which means it is not THAT close . especially not a close match for number 1 in the list

and your 2 population gives you

56.8% Romani + 43.2% Kosovar @ 3.36
65% Romani + 35% Italian_Bergamo @ 3.4
58.8% Romani + 41.2% Macedonian @ 3.4

which is pretty accurate regarding your ancestry mix :)

what is interesting is the fact that despite you being only a little more than 50% romani ancestry wise you get

4. South_Asia 10.89

which on itself is not that much but if you were full roma you would probably get 20-25% which again shows the indian roots of roma :)

What you said above (highlighted) is wrong. The Admix results do not have a "Romani" component. You cant just double the South_Asia from the Admix results to say a 100% "Romani" would have 20-25%
South_ Asia. Then you would have to double all the other Admix components too, and it would total more than 100%. The "Romani" itself must include some South_Asia component.

He is 89.11% non-South_Asia components and 10.89% South_Asia = 100% total, is the accurate way to say what he is.

Also interesting, for Mixed Mode Population Sharing he is closest to these:
1 80.4% Kosovar + 19.6% Gond @ 2.25
2 78.1% Kosovar + 21.9% Bengali @ 2.43
3 78.8% Albanian + 21.2% Bengali @ 2.67
4 81.3% Albanian + 18.7% Gond @ 2.98
5 80.6% Kosovar + 19.4% Chenchus @ 2.99

This confirms he is 10.89 South_Asia component and rest non-South_Asia ...because...Gond, Bengali and Chenchus are not 100% South_Asia component.

Hadouken
05-26-2017, 01:54 AM
What you said above (highlighted) is wrong. The Admix results do not have a "Romani" component. You cant just double the South_Asia from the Admix results to say a 100% "Romani" would have 20-25%
South_ Asia. Then you would have to double all the other Admix components too, and it would total more than 100%. The "Romani" itself must include some South_Asia component.

He is 89.11% non-South_Asia components and 10.89% South_Asia = 100% total, is the accurate way to say what he is.

Also interesting, for Mixed Mode Population Sharing he is closest to these:
1 80.4% Kosovar + 19.6% Gond @ 2.25
2 78.1% Kosovar + 21.9% Bengali @ 2.43
3 78.8% Albanian + 21.2% Bengali @ 2.67
4 81.3% Albanian + 18.7% Gond @ 2.98
5 80.6% Kosovar + 19.4% Chenchus @ 2.99

This confirms he is 10.89 South_Asia component and rest non-South_Asia ...because...Gond, Bengali and Chenchus are not 100% South_Asia component.

man use your brain bro

if he was 100% romani then the other components wouldnt just double along with the south asian . why ? because a 100% romani has for example less european components than him so they would decline and it would compromise . where do you think his 10-11% south asian comes from ? from the serbian and russian side or what ? :picard1:

a full romani without any known strong european ancestry as mortimer has would definitely score easily 20% + south asian .

Mortimer
05-26-2017, 02:20 AM
All Roma people who have non-Indian HGs will have non-Roma origins (roots) less than 1500 years ago (at most). 1500 years ago is approximately when original Roma left India/Pakistan.

You said your father was mostly Serb (?), so your father's side cannot have been Roma for too long. Your mother's original direct maternal ancestor was also non-Roma not more than 1500 years ago which we can tell due to your mtDna. It means that she is also of non-Roma roots. Genetic test on her might show when her ancestor joined into Roma people.

Therefore your direct descent roots are from non-Roma, though you are a Roma. You have South Asian ancestry (25% or less) via all your other ancestors who had Roma roots.

my father was mostly serb yes, and his grandfather was pure serb and his mother. so my ydna is most likely serb. as i said my mtdna might be roma due to founder effect with westasian lineages. its like saying k1a1a isnt ashkenazi because it isnt arabic when it is a quintessential ashkenazi lineage. also roma didnt existed prior to 1500 years ago, the predecessor of the roma from india were not "roma", roma are not that old ethnicity. they became roma 1500 years ago.

CrazyDaisy
05-29-2017, 07:38 AM
I score some South Asian as well. Along with oceanian.

West_Asia 5.85
NE_Europe 23.03
Americas 24.99
Siberia 1.54
Oceania 2.62
South_Asia 1.73
NE_Asia 0.97
East_Africa 1.29
SE_Asia -
SW_Europe 32.09
SW_Asia 4.43
West_Africa 1.49
South_Africa

Voskos
05-29-2017, 10:00 AM
seems you're a real person, with real DNA

Mortimer
10-03-2017, 12:26 AM
so am i even properly mixed? i mean im 60% gypsy mixed to me is 50% or less gypsy like if someone is only a quarter like my dad was, then i consider him mixed.

Bobby Martnen
11-28-2017, 12:06 AM
so am i even properly mixed? i mean im 60% gypsy mixed to me is 50% or less gypsy like if someone is only a quarter like my dad was, then i consider him mixed.

To me, anyone who is not at least 7/8 of one ethnicity is mixed. I see you as both a Romany Gypsy and a Serb, just like I see Tadanobu Asano as both White and Japanese (he's 1/4 White, 3/4 Japanese)

Cristiano viejo
11-28-2017, 12:16 AM
You are pure afterall, Mortimer :cool:

greasycaveman
11-28-2017, 12:16 AM
well i mean Romas have mixed with people along their journey to europe, so if they mix with people in europe, does that make them not Roma? I think not! You are Roma, dont let anyone tell you, you are not! I used to be upset, or that i wouldnt be fully accepted by my Russian family, because of my western side, but I learned that all europeans came from the steppe in Russia, and that they are just descendents.. !! :)

Mortimer
11-28-2017, 01:54 AM
well i mean Romas have mixed with people along their journey to europe, so if they mix with people in europe, does that make them not Roma? I think not! You are Roma, dont let anyone tell you, you are not! I used to be upset, or that i wouldnt be fully accepted by my Russian family, because of my western side, but I learned that all europeans came from the steppe in Russia, and that they are just descendents.. !! :)

dont worry bro no one ever said im not, but some could maybe say im "mixed" but that im not no one ever said.

Mortimer
11-28-2017, 01:57 AM
To me, anyone who is not at least 7/8 of one ethnicity is mixed. I see you as both a Romany Gypsy and a Serb, just like I see Tadanobu Asano as both White and Japanese (he's 1/4 White, 3/4 Japanese)

than my mum makes the cut to be pure in your opinion. she is 7/8 romani and 1/8 russian.

greasycaveman
11-28-2017, 02:14 AM
than my mum makes the cut to be pure in your opinion. she is 7/8 romani and 1/8 russian.

is your mom from russia?

Mortimer
11-28-2017, 02:16 AM
is your mom from russia?

no she is from serbia, but her mums (my grandmothers) grandfather was russian cossack. i dont know much about him except his name was michael kachanov and he was russian cossack. my mum is only 1/8 and that makes me 1/16 my grandmother was 1/4.

greasycaveman
11-28-2017, 02:17 AM
no she is from serbia, but her mums (my grandmothers) grandfather was russian cossack. i dont know much about him except his name was michael kachanov and he was russian cossack. my mum is only 1/8 and that makes me 1/16 my grandmother was 1/4.

that is awesome dude, i like cossacks

MercifulServant
11-28-2017, 02:22 AM
Whats that song lol

greasycaveman
11-28-2017, 02:27 AM
Mortimer listen to this song, i sure you will like it..!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYoARAfEVLA


Balalaika is my favorite instrument after garmon

Bobby Martnen
11-28-2017, 02:28 AM
than my mum makes the cut to be pure in your opinion. she is 7/8 romani and 1/8 russian.

Yes. 7/8 people can go either way IMO. Seems like your mom wasn't raised around Russians and isn't culturally Russian, so I'd be fine with calling her a pure Romany Gypsy.

Someone like Todd Palin, who is 7/8 NW-Euro and 1/8 Yupik Eskimo, but was close to Eskimo relatives and is part of some Eskimo organizations, I still see as mixed.

If your mom ever did DNA test, she would probably cluster slightly NE of the average Serbian Gypsy.

Bobby Martnen
02-11-2018, 11:18 PM
Opre Roma YouTube Video

I really like the song in this - what is it from?

Mortimer
02-12-2018, 12:15 AM
Some gypsy song i just searched gypsy music i forgot what it was
I really like the song in this - what is it from?

Carpatz
02-12-2018, 12:22 AM
Is this your results or someone else's? It shows up when you google "gypsy 23andme"

https://s12.postimg.org/6ewwikmq5/Zac_ACresults.jpg

Mortimer
02-12-2018, 12:26 AM
Is this your results or someone else's? It shows up when you google "gypsy 23andme"

https://s12.postimg.org/6ewwikmq5/Zac_ACresults.jpg

Someone else. I posted it though. Search gypsy 23andme with pictures there is a thread on apricity

SvartVarg
02-12-2018, 12:52 AM
Thanks for sharing.


What's interesting is your South Asian isn't far off from this romanichal
South_Asia 6.71
Other stats differ; expected, different region.

Mortimer
02-12-2018, 01:09 AM
Thanks for sharing.


What's interesting is your South Asian isn't far off from this romanichal
South_Asia 6.71
Other stats differ; expected, different region.

my southasian is much more around 25% but it varies from calculator to calculator sometimes its only 15%

SvartVarg
02-12-2018, 01:19 AM
my southasian is much more around 25% but it varies from calculator to calculator sometimes its only 15%

I don't doubt. But for that one, at least, it's similar.

MercifulServant
02-12-2018, 02:28 AM
My Puntdnal k13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 41.11
2 SW_Europe 32.46
3 West_Asia 15.26
4 SW_Asia 7.93
5 NE_Asia 0.97
6 Siberia 0.78
7 Oceania 0.53
8 Americas 0.52
9 East_Africa 0.4
10 SE_Asia 0.02
11 West_Africa 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bosnian 2.61
2 Serbian 3.92
3 Moldavian 4.49
4 Croatian 4.54
5 Montenegrin 5.89
6 Hungarian 6.55
7 Slovene 6.74
8 Romanian 7.07
9 Slovak 8.17
10 Macedonian 8.56
11 German_South 8.83
12 Bulgarian 8.98
13 Belgian 9.68
14 French 9.75
15 English 10.13
16 Scottish 11.02
17 Orcadian 11.47
18 Irish 11.65
19 Utahn_European 11.8
20 German_North 12.1

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.2% Macedonian + 26.8% Russian @ 1.34
2 97.3% Bosnian + 2.7% Oroqen @ 1.4
3 76% Slovak + 24% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 1.4
4 76.9% Slovak + 23.1% Italian_Sicilian @ 1.43
5 97.3% Bosnian + 2.7% Daur @ 1.44
6 96.9% Bosnian + 3.1% Mongolian @ 1.45
7 64.2% Albanian + 35.8% Estonian @ 1.45
8 53.4% Belarusian + 46.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.49
9 97.4% Bosnian + 2.6% Xibo @ 1.49
10 96.7% Bosnian + 3.3% Altaian @ 1.51
11 55.8% Albanian + 44.2% Belarusian @ 1.51
12 97.1% Bosnian + 2.9% Tuvinian @ 1.51
13 65.4% Albanian + 34.6% Lithuanian @ 1.54
14 95.8% Bosnian + 4.2% Afghan_Hazara @ 1.55
15 67% Ukrainian + 33% Italian_Sicilian @ 1.55
16 66% Albanian + 34% Latvian @ 1.55
17 78.7% Slovak + 21.3% Sephardic_Jew @ 1.56
18 71.9% Slovak + 28.1% Greek_Central @ 1.57
19 54.6% Greek_Thessaly + 45.4% Belarusian @ 1.58
20 61% Albanian + 39% Polish @ 1.61

Carpatz
02-12-2018, 02:35 AM
My Puntdnal k13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 41.11
2 SW_Europe 32.46
3 West_Asia 15.26
4 SW_Asia 7.93
5 NE_Asia 0.97
6 Siberia 0.78
7 Oceania 0.53
8 Americas 0.52
9 East_Africa 0.4
10 SE_Asia 0.02
11 West_Africa 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bosnian 2.61
2 Serbian 3.92
3 Moldavian 4.49
4 Croatian 4.54
5 Montenegrin 5.89
6 Hungarian 6.55
7 Slovene 6.74
8 Romanian 7.07
9 Slovak 8.17
10 Macedonian 8.56
11 German_South 8.83
12 Bulgarian 8.98
13 Belgian 9.68
14 French 9.75
15 English 10.13
16 Scottish 11.02
17 Orcadian 11.47
18 Irish 11.65
19 Utahn_European 11.8
20 German_North 12.1

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.2% Macedonian + 26.8% Russian @ 1.34
2 97.3% Bosnian + 2.7% Oroqen @ 1.4
3 76% Slovak + 24% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 1.4
4 76.9% Slovak + 23.1% Italian_Sicilian @ 1.43
5 97.3% Bosnian + 2.7% Daur @ 1.44
6 96.9% Bosnian + 3.1% Mongolian @ 1.45
7 64.2% Albanian + 35.8% Estonian @ 1.45
8 53.4% Belarusian + 46.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.49
9 97.4% Bosnian + 2.6% Xibo @ 1.49
10 96.7% Bosnian + 3.3% Altaian @ 1.51
11 55.8% Albanian + 44.2% Belarusian @ 1.51
12 97.1% Bosnian + 2.9% Tuvinian @ 1.51
13 65.4% Albanian + 34.6% Lithuanian @ 1.54
14 95.8% Bosnian + 4.2% Afghan_Hazara @ 1.55
15 67% Ukrainian + 33% Italian_Sicilian @ 1.55
16 66% Albanian + 34% Latvian @ 1.55
17 78.7% Slovak + 21.3% Sephardic_Jew @ 1.56
18 71.9% Slovak + 28.1% Greek_Central @ 1.57
19 54.6% Greek_Thessaly + 45.4% Belarusian @ 1.58
20 61% Albanian + 39% Polish @ 1.61

Yo, why are you hijacking Mortimer's thread? You're not a gypsy.

MercifulServant
02-12-2018, 02:44 AM
lol :D

but distance is 10.86 which means it is not THAT close . especially not a close match for number 1 in the list

and your 2 population gives you

56.8% Romani + 43.2% Kosovar @ 3.36
65% Romani + 35% Italian_Bergamo @ 3.4
58.8% Romani + 41.2% Macedonian @ 3.4

which is pretty accurate regarding your ancestry mix :)

what is interesting is the fact that despite you being only a little more than 50% romani ancestry wise you get

4. South_Asia 10.89

which on itself is not that much but if you were full roma you would probably get 20-25% which again shows the indian roots of roma :)

The roma sample gets 20% South Asian on that calc

Mortimer
02-12-2018, 02:45 AM
The roma sample gets 20% South Asian on that calc

yes i get the half of that because im basically half gypsy

MercifulServant
02-12-2018, 02:47 AM
yes i get the half of that because im basically half gypsy

Genetically you are pretty much inbetween romas and albanians

MercifulServant
02-12-2018, 02:49 AM
lol the average Romanian scores 3.00% South Asian on this calc

Mortimer
02-12-2018, 02:59 AM
Genetically you are pretty much inbetween romas and albanians

maybe on that calculator but my geneplaza proves im not part albanian but part southslavic.

https://s18.postimg.org/vwa2je4x5/geneplazak29.jpg

Carpatz
02-12-2018, 05:46 PM
lol the average Romanian scores 3.00% South Asian on this calc

That's weird. I don't get any at all.