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Inquizzzitor
06-09-2017, 05:19 PM
Basically, my ancestry is 6 out of 8 great-grandparents being British (mostly English, some Scottish, less Irish, and very remote German and Dutch, and one great-grandparent (6.25% of my DNA) of unknown but we assume also basically British origin). Aside from that, it's just one great-grandparent from the middle of France and one great-grandparent from Messina, Sicily.

However, most of the mixed-population sharing oracles on GED match show WHAT APPEARS TO ME to be a rather much more Mediterranean-shifted slant than the above pedigree would be assumed to produce. Take a look at some of my oracle results below. Is this what you would assume, for a pedigree that's (basically) 75% British, 12.5% run of the mill French and 12.5% Sicilian? Could this indicate that 6.25% I don't know about is Mediterranean instead of British? But 23andme puts me at like 84% "Northwest European" (I guess they include France in NW Europe?) and 12.4% Southern European which is closer to what I would expect. Geno 2.0 had me more Med-shifted than this, almost half way between the British and the Greek averages.

MLDP K-16 Modern (where I appear 60% Orcadian/Scottish and 40% Greek)
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.5% Orcadian + 40.5% Greek @ 2.27
2 55.8% Macedonian + 44.2% Orcadian @ 2.31
3 71.3% Hungarian + 28.7% Italian @ 2.35
4 54.6% Orcadian + 45.4% Kosovar @ 2.35
5 50.7% Macedonian + 49.3% English @ 2.38
6 55.6% Scottish + 44.4% Kosovar @ 2.39
7 60.8% Norwegian + 39.2% Italian @ 2.4
8 82.1% English + 17.9% Druze @ 2.43
9 55% Macedonian + 45% Scottish @ 2.43
10 56.4% Icelandic + 43.6% Greek @ 2.44
11 59.7% Orcadian + 40.3% Albanian @ 2.47
12 59.5% Icelandic + 40.5% Italian @ 2.48
13 57.7% Norwegian + 42.3% Greek @ 2.49
14 52.7% English + 47.3% Bulgarian @ 2.5
15 60.5% Scottish + 39.5% Greek @ 2.51
16 64.3% Norwegian + 35.7% Sicilian @ 2.54
17 77.1% Orcadian + 22.9% Cypriot @ 2.56
18 62.6% Orcadian + 37.4% Italian @ 2.58
19 52.7% Irish + 47.3% Macedonian @ 2.6
20 51.4% Icelandic + 48.6% Kosovar @ 2.6

MLDP K23b (where I appear half Greek half Icelandic)

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Northwest +50% Icelandic @ 3.748881

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Cypriot + Icelandic + Norwegian_West + Norwegian_West @ 1.881076
2 Cypriot + Norwegian_West + Orcadian + Swede @ 1.920751

Eurogenes K-13 (where for example it looks like I am 80% English and 20% Turkish, much more shifted than one would expect out of my pedigree above)

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.1% Southwest_English + 16.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.79
2 80.2% Southwest_English + 19.8% Turkish @ 2.92
3 83% Southwest_English + 17% Armenian @ 2.93
4 81.2% Southwest_English + 18.8% Azeri @ 3.01
5 82.6% Southwest_English + 17.4% Kurdish @ 3.03
6 81.1% Irish + 18.9% Syrian @ 3.05
7 81% Irish + 19% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.1

Dodecad V3 (where I appear 83% Scottish and 16.9% Palestinian, which alone is well over my genetic source for even Sicilian genes, at 12.5%)

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.1% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 16.9% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 1.27
2 83.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 16.3% Jordanians_19 (Behar) @ 1.41
3 82.3% Orcadian (HGDP) + 17.7% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 1.41
4 82.9% Orcadian (HGDP) + 17.1% Syrians (Behar) @ 1.43
5 82.1% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 17.9% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.4

Harappa World (again, same pattern)
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.8% british (1000genomes) + 18.2% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 1.41
2 76.8% orcadian (hgdp) + 23.2% cypriot (behar) @ 1.44
3 82.9% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 17.1% lebanese-muslim (haber) @ 1.46
4 82.2% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 17.8% lebanese (behar) @ 1.5

Thoughts?

Peterski
06-09-2017, 05:28 PM
Try using Eurogenes K36 instead:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?212106-Post-your-Tax-of-Similitude

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?208406-(Unofficial)-oracle-for-Eurogenes-K36-256-reference-populations

Inquizzzitor
06-09-2017, 07:09 PM
The Eurogenes K36 model on Gedmatch does not seem to provide Oracle population or mixed population sharing. :-/

But here are the admixture results

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.54
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.59
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.17
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.75
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 3.72
Fennoscandian 3.64
French 7.90
Iberian 9.53
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 7.52
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 4.97
North_African -
North_Atlantic 15.50
North_Caucasian 8.62
North_Sea 14.85
Northeast_African 0.12
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.84
West_African 0.80
West_Caucasian 0.31
West_Med 4.57

And wtf is the difference between East Med and East Balkan, anyway?

Sikeliot
06-09-2017, 09:34 PM
"Greek_Northwest" is Epirus and western Macedonia which, for what it is worth, are not exactly genetically very southward plotting. Your shift to the Levant should not be more than around 6-8% given your ancestry which implies the other 6.25% of your ancestry must be something even southward plotting of Sicilian. Maybe Jewish, Levantine, etc?

Peterski
06-09-2017, 10:51 PM
Here is what you get in Eurogenes K36:

K36 nMonte method:

Inquizitor

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
Orcadian German_West Ireland British_mixed
12.87589 13.18319 13.45636 13.52529
Scotland England France_NorthWest South_Germany
13.90880 14.15748 14.17147 14.26459

Population percent

Orcadian 60.55
Chechen 9.55
GR_Kythera 7.60
IT_Sardinia 5.60
Northern_Ireland 4.60
FR_Bretagne 4.40
Hadramut_Yemen 2.90
Austria_Tyrol 2.65
Spain_Aragon 0.85
African-American 0.45
Palestina 0.25
France_SW 0.20
Mandenka_West_Africa 0.15
Spanish_Basque 0.10
Scotland 0.10
Gr_Eubea 0.05

K36 Least-squares method:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian @ 12,869897
2 German_West @ 13,189848
3 Ireland @ 13,498641
4 British_mixed @ 13,518364
5 Scotland @ 13,899919
6 England @ 14,146288
7 France_NorthWest @ 14,169962
8 South_Germany @ 14,274371
9 Northern_Ireland @ 14,30465
10 South_Holland @ 14,683025
11 German_North @ 14,833092
12 Austria_Tyrol @ 14,980133
13 France_NorthEast @ 15,070321
14 Holland @ 15,13703
15 Belgium @ 15,247028
16 FR_Bretagne @ 15,290633
17 Swiss_German @ 15,414544
18 Austria @ 16,974418
19 Dutch_Frisian @ 17,55025
20 France @ 17,815077
322 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Austria_Tyrol+Orcadian @ 10,168616
2 Austria_Tyrol+Ireland @ 10,557811
3 Austria_Tyrol+Northern_Ireland @ 10,946645
4 IT_Veneto+Orcadian @ 11,186282
5 Austria_Tyrol+British_mixed @ 11,289183
6 Swiss_German+Orcadian @ 11,335614
7 South_Romania+Northern_Ireland @ 11,347205
8 German_West+Orcadian @ 11,375137
9 South_Romania+Orcadian @ 11,482537
10 Austria_Tyrol+Scotland @ 11,494825
11 IT_Piedmont+Orcadian @ 11,515465
12 South_Germany+Orcadian @ 11,568372
13 IT_Friuli+Orcadian @ 11,586501
14 Macedonia_FYROM+Orcadian @ 11,599449
15 South_Romania+Ireland @ 11,662663
16 Greek_Macedonia+Orcadian @ 11,700931
17 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+Northern_Ireland @ 11,776023
18 Macedonia_FYROM+Northern_Ireland @ 11,780366
19 Orcadian+Montenegro @ 11,799735
20 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+Orcadian @ 11,807473
52003 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% Tatar_Crimea_Coast +25% FR_Bretagne @ 8,410277
2 50% Orcadian +25% Tatar_Crimea_Coast +25% Northern_Ireland @ 8,504027
3 50% Orcadian +25% Greek_Azov +25% Northern_Ireland @ 8,515232
4 50% Orcadian +25% GR_Kythera +25% Orcadian @ 8,53228
5 50% Orcadian +25% Tatar_Crimea_Coast +25% Orcadian @ 8,54143
6 50% Orcadian +25% Tatar_Crimea_Coast +25% Ireland @ 8,549691
7 50% Orcadian +25% Greek_Azov +25% Orcadian @ 8,559478
8 50% Orcadian +25% Greek_Azov +25% Ireland @ 8,57355
9 50% Orcadian +25% Tatar_Crimea_Coast +25% France_NorthWest @ 8,621442
10 50% Orcadian +25% Greek_Azov +25% FR_Bretagne @ 8,632815
11 50% Orcadian +25% Tatar_Crimea_Coast +25% British_mixed @ 8,642973
12 50% Orcadian +25% GR_Kythera +25% Ireland @ 8,67518
13 50% Orcadian +25% Greek_Azov +25% British_mixed @ 8,685965
14 50% Orcadian +25% Tatar_Crimea_Coast +25% Scotland @ 8,701529
15 50% Orcadian +25% Greek_Azov +25% Scotland @ 8,718312
16 50% Orcadian +25% Turkish_Anatolia +25% FR_Bretagne @ 8,720836
17 50% Ireland +25% Tatar_Crimea_Coast +25% Orcadian @ 8,760139
18 50% Northern_Ireland +25% Tatar_Crimea_Coast +25% Orcadian @ 8,775343
19 50% Northern_Ireland +25% Greek_Azov +25% Orcadian @ 8,779489
20 50% Ireland +25% Greek_Azov +25% Orcadian @ 8,789112
11058007 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+FR_Bretagne+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 8,410277
2 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+Northern_Ireland+Orcadian+Orcad ian @ 8,504027
3 Greek_Azov+Northern_Ireland+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 8,515232
4 GR_Kythera+Orcadian+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 8,53228
5 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+Orcadian+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 8,54143
6 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+Ireland+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 8,549691
7 Greek_Azov+Orcadian+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 8,559478
8 Greek_Azov+Ireland+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 8,57355
9 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+France_NorthWest+Orcadian+Orcad ian @ 8,621442
10 Greek_Azov+FR_Bretagne+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 8,632815
11 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+Orcadian+Orcadian+British_mixed @ 8,642973
12 GR_Kythera+Ireland+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 8,67518
13 Greek_Azov+Orcadian+Orcadian+British_mixed @ 8,685965
14 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+Orcadian+Orcadian+Scotland @ 8,701529
15 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+Northern_Ireland+Ireland+Orcadi an @ 8,703319
16 Greek_Azov+Orcadian+Orcadian+Scotland @ 8,718312
17 Greek_Azov+Northern_Ireland+Ireland+Orcadian @ 8,719999
18 Turkish_Anatolia+FR_Bretagne+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 8,720836
19 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+Ireland+Ireland+Orcadian @ 8,760139
20 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+Northern_Ireland+Northern_Irela nd+Orcadian @ 8,775343
21 Greek_Azov+Northern_Ireland+Northern_Ireland+Orcad ian @ 8,779489
22 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+FR_Bretagne+Orcadian+Scotland @ 8,781353
23 Greek_Azov+Ireland+Ireland+Orcadian @ 8,789112
24 Greek_Azov+France_NorthWest+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 8,790791
25 Turkish_Anatolia+France_NorthWest+Orcadian+Orcadia n @ 8,796544
26 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+Ireland+Orcadian+British_mixed @ 8,79727
27 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+FR_Bretagne+Northern_Ireland+Or cadian @ 8,799036
28 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+FR_Bretagne+Ireland+Orcadian @ 8,803616
29 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+Ireland+Orcadian+Scotland @ 8,817388
30 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+Northern_Ireland+Orcadian+Briti sh_mixed @ 8,820905
31 GR_Cyclades+Orcadian+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 8,822703
32 GR_Kythera+Northern_Ireland+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 8,832046
33 Greek_Azov+Ireland+Orcadian+Scotland @ 8,839604
34 GR_Crete+Orcadian+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 8,840209
35 Greek_Azov+Ireland+Orcadian+British_mixed @ 8,845161
36 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+Northern_Ireland+Orcadian+Scotl and @ 8,854136
37 Greek_Azov+Northern_Ireland+Orcadian+British_mixed @ 8,856378
38 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+Orcadian+Orcadian+England @ 8,859958
39 Turkish_Anatolia+Northern_Ireland+Orcadian+Orcadia n @ 8,860642
40 Tatar_Crimea_Coast+FR_Bretagne+Orcadian+British_mi xed @ 8,86093
201932840 iterations.

K36 Gaussian method:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Austria_Tyrol @ 5,748299
2 Hungary @ 7,2842
3 IT_North @ 7,415243
4 IT_Friuli @ 7,715152
5 Austria @ 7,752248
6 South_Germany @ 7,84231
7 IT_Aosta @ 7,894579
8 Romania_NW @ 7,924104
9 West_Serbian @ 7,971917
10 Slovenian @ 7,994593
11 Serbian @ 8,049803
12 Bosnian @ 8,149018
13 German_West @ 8,210793
14 Croatian @ 8,306463
15 Swiss_German @ 8,315956
16 Swiss_Italian @ 8,411916
17 Albania_Montenegro @ 8,508766
18 Macedonia_FYROM @ 8,563933
19 Slovak @ 8,645207
20 Romania_SE @ 8,726297
322 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Greek_Macedonia+Northern_Ireland @ 5,588386
2 IT_Piedmont+Orcadian @ 5,599694
3 Northern_Ireland+Montenegro @ 5,59979
4 Greek_Macedonia+Orcadian @ 5,602229
5 GR_Thrace+Orcadian @ 5,609787
6 Orcadian+Montenegro @ 5,632082
7 Gr_Eubea+Northern_Ireland @ 5,662444
8 Romania_NW+Orcadian @ 5,673441
9 Ireland+Montenegro @ 5,682022
10 GR_Thrace+Northern_Ireland @ 5,701222
11 Bulgaria+Northern_Ireland @ 5,723699
12 Gr_Eubea+Orcadian @ 5,727411
13 Greek_Macedonia+Ireland @ 5,727836
14 Gr_Eubea+Ireland @ 5,738076
15 GR_Cyclades+Orcadian @ 5,746849
16 Austria_Tyrol+Austria_Tyrol @ 5,748299
17 Greek_Peloponnes+Northern_Ireland @ 5,765781
18 Greek_Peloponnes+Orcadian @ 5,780758
19 GR_Thrace+Ireland @ 5,7839
20 IT_Piedmont+Ireland @ 5,801529
52003 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% GR_Cyclades +25% Orcadian @ 5,249528
2 50% Orcadian +25% GR_Cyclades +25% Northern_Ireland @ 5,273027
3 50% Orcadian +25% GR_Thrace +25% Orcadian @ 5,28819
4 50% Orcadian +25% Gr_Eubea +25% Orcadian @ 5,294527
5 50% Orcadian +25% GR_Thrace +25% Austria_Tyrol @ 5,30343
6 50% Orcadian +25% Gr_Eubea +25% Northern_Ireland @ 5,30412
7 50% Orcadian +25% GR_Cyclades +25% Austria_Tyrol @ 5,306258
8 50% Orcadian +25% GR_Cyclades +25% South_Holland @ 5,312604
9 50% Orcadian +25% Gr_Eubea +25% Ireland @ 5,314561
10 50% Orcadian +25% GR_Thrace +25% Northern_Ireland @ 5,316854
11 50% Orcadian +25% GR_Cyclades +25% Ireland @ 5,317867
12 50% Orcadian +25% Gr_Eubea +25% South_Holland @ 5,31966
13 50% Orcadian +25% GR_Cyclades +25% FR_Bretagne @ 5,322474
14 50% Orcadian +25% GR_Kythera +25% Northern_Ireland @ 5,324977
15 50% Orcadian +25% GR_Cyclades +25% France_NorthWest @ 5,325045
16 50% Orcadian +25% GR_Thrace +25% Ireland @ 5,332046
17 50% Orcadian +25% Gr_Eubea +25% Austria_Tyrol @ 5,332204
18 50% Orcadian +25% Gr_Eubea +25% France_NorthEast @ 5,334469
19 50% Orcadian +25% Gr_Eubea +25% FR_Bretagne @ 5,334659
20 50% Orcadian +25% GR_Cyclades +25% German_West @ 5,340119
16621733 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 GR_Cyclades+Orcadian+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,249528
2 GR_Cyclades+Northern_Ireland+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,273027
3 GR_Thrace+Orcadian+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,28819
4 Gr_Eubea+Orcadian+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,294527
5 GR_Thrace+Austria_Tyrol+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,30343
6 Gr_Eubea+Northern_Ireland+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,30412
7 GR_Cyclades+Austria_Tyrol+Northern_Ireland+Orcadia n @ 5,304595
8 GR_Cyclades+Austria_Tyrol+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,306258
9 GR_Thrace+Austria_Tyrol+Northern_Ireland+Orcadian @ 5,311466
10 GR_Cyclades+South_Holland+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,312604
11 Gr_Eubea+Ireland+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,314561
12 GR_Thrace+Northern_Ireland+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,316854
13 GR_Cyclades+Ireland+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,317867
14 Gr_Eubea+South_Holland+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,31966
15 GR_Cyclades+FR_Bretagne+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,322474
16 GR_Kythera+Northern_Ireland+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,324977
17 GR_Cyclades+France_NorthWest+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,325045
18 Gr_Eubea+Austria_Tyrol+Northern_Ireland+Orcadian @ 5,328443
19 GR_Thrace+Ireland+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,332046
20 Gr_Eubea+Austria_Tyrol+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,332204
21 Gr_Eubea+France_NorthEast+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,334469
22 Gr_Eubea+FR_Bretagne+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,334659
23 GR_Cyclades+German_West+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,340119
24 GR_Thrace+Austria_Tyrol+Ireland+Orcadian @ 5,340971
25 GR_Thrace+FR_Bretagne+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,34108
26 GR_Kythera+Orcadian+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,344188
27 GR_Cyclades+Orcadian+Orcadian+Scotland @ 5,346341
28 GR_Cyclades+Orcadian+Orcadian+British_mixed @ 5,347656
29 GR_Cyclades+France_Central+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,350181
30 GR_Kythera+Ireland+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,351265
31 GR_Cyclades+Austria_Tyrol+Northern_Ireland+Norther n_Ireland @ 5,355139
32 Gr_Eubea+Austria_Tyrol+Northern_Ireland+Northern_I reland @ 5,3556
33 GR_Kythera+FR_Bretagne+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 5,356448
34 Gr_Eubea+Austria_Tyrol+Ireland+Orcadian @ 5,356696
35 GR_Cyclades+Northern_Ireland+Northern_Ireland+Orca dian @ 5,357503
36 GR_Cyclades+Austria_Tyrol+Ireland+Orcadian @ 5,359778
37 Gr_Eubea+South_Holland+Northern_Ireland+Orcadian @ 5,360476
38 Gr_Eubea+South_Holland+Ireland+Orcadian @ 5,362132
39 Gr_Eubea+Northern_Ireland+Ireland+Orcadian @ 5,36332
40 Gr_Eubea+Northern_Ireland+Northern_Ireland+Orcadia n @ 5,364214
456326325 iterations.

Inquizzzitor
06-10-2017, 10:38 PM
Sikeliot, I don't have any Jewish heritage according to 23andme, and 23andme counted me as basically 84% "Northwest European" and 12.5% Southern European which would be in line with my heritage but only if they consider French to be "Northwest European" which to me, it's only about half so. And again, all the other calculators seem to give me more southerly input, as did National Geographic Geno 2.0. I am waiting on ancestry compilation from MyHeritage and DNA.land right now, but for what it's worth, here's what WeGene scored me as...

91.76% European

34.95%French
25.04%Hungarian
12.46%English
9.05%Spanish
5.86%Sardinian
4.37%Finnish/Russian
0.03%Others

6.06% Middle Eastern (2.59% Egyptian and 3.56% Iranian)

I think this calculator may be more accurate for Asians. But it still shows a southerly (and easterly) slant to my ancestry. And as you can see from the results Litvin posted, I'm basically averaging out as similar to 3/4 British and 1/4 Greek.

Voskos
06-10-2017, 10:44 PM
what shifts you south is your atlantomed ancestry. french, sicilian and part of your british too

Petalpusher
06-11-2017, 11:31 AM
I don't see anything weird with your results and known ancesty, you say it makes you half Greek, but you are not half Icelandic either (arguably the most genetically northern pop in Europe). You are somewhere between the two populations. Sicilian is just a hard pull south, even 1/8.

You can post your Euro K15 and try the pca, it usually looks spot on.

Inquizzzitor
06-11-2017, 04:47 PM
Eurogenes EUTest V2 K15 results are:

Population
North_Sea 32.05
Atlantic 22.83
Baltic 6.70
Eastern_Euro 8.48
West_Med 10.46
West_Asian 8.84
East_Med 4.98
Red_Sea 2.62
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.91
Oceanian 0.18
Northeast_African 0.58
Sub-Saharan 1.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.7% Southwest_English + 14.3% Armenian @ 4.13
2 85.9% Southwest_English + 14.1% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.17
3 74.1% Orcadian + 25.9% Ashkenazi @ 4.22
4 83.9% Southwest_English + 16.1% Kumyk @ 4.25
5 85.7% Southwest_English + 14.3% Iranian @ 4.28
6 74.2% Orcadian + 25.8% Central_Greek @ 4.33
7 84.5% Southwest_English + 15.5% Azeri @ 4.35
8 74.4% Orcadian + 25.6% East_Sicilian @ 4.37

Meanwhile, I got my DNA.land results back. They are:

Northwest European: 82%
Arab/Egyptian: 10%
Sardinian: 3.5%
South/Central Euro: 1%
Ambiguous: 1.6
East African: 1.6%

That Arab/Egyptian thing to me looks patently ridiculous, unless they're counting Sicilian as Arab/Egyptian and not South/Central European. lol

Finally, I got my MyHeritage results back, here they are:

Europe: 93.2%
--North and West Europe: 86.7%
---English: 35.5%
---Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 32.4%
--North and West European: 18.8%
--South Europe: 3.9%
---Iberian: 3.9%
West Asia: 4.5%
Ashkenazi Jewish: 2.6%
East Africa: 2.3%

Now, that to me is ridiculous because it's the first and only calculator to pick up and Ashkenazi Jewish (23andme said ">.01%") and it's picking up Iberian, which I am not, but not Sicilian, which I am - maybe they are averaging out Sicilian as part Iberian and part West Asian.

I always am scoring high West Asian/Caucausus/Middle East.

Oneeye
06-11-2017, 05:05 PM
Sicillian ancestry is tugging your genome's testicles down Islamistan. Meme jihad NAOW

Peterski
06-11-2017, 05:16 PM
"Tatar_Crimea_Coast" is very similar to "Greek_Azov", by the way.

They are mostly Tatarized Greeks perhaps, rather than true Tatars.

Petalpusher
06-11-2017, 06:55 PM
K15 mix mode doesn't give you very good fits (@4+), but the pca puts you exactly where you should be. To break it down more easily let's say 12.5% French + 12.5% Sicilian place this 25% of your ancestry just next to Tuscan, and your 75% English and German/Dutch is likely as usual "CEU", like most Americans which is somewhere around S.Dutch. 75% CEU + 25% Tuscan = your point. Your paper ancestry is spot on compared to where your genome actually is, so really nothing is weird with your results.

Btw Icelandic would be in the upper left corner between the NW and North_Sea, your point is also between that and Greek Thessaly.

https://i.imgur.com/fDsOvN6.png