Sikeliot
07-08-2017, 05:01 PM
Some Greek users claim it comes from "Neolithic Peloponnesians."
This is why their argument falls apart:
a. Levantine input is higher in Palermo and Agrigento provinces where there was less Greek input, and is lowest in Syracuse where there was the most.
b. Syracusans and other nearby southeast Sicilians plot near MODERN Peloponnesians, implying Peloponnesians today are close to those who settled Sicily, minus a small amount more Slavic.
c. Peloponnesians do have significant Caucasian affinity but almost entirely lack the Levantine component, so where did it go?? It clearly wasn't there when they settled in Sicily.
d. It is well documented that western Sicily was once Phoenician and eventually Carthaginian land.
e. Sicilians are more Levantine on the maternal side and more Greek on the paternal side. The two components thus cannot be linked.
f. Greeks today have absorbed Pontics, Cypriots, Alexandria Greeks and are more MENA now than they ever have been before.
But given it also exists in Calabria, I am not so sure it is all Phoenician. See the red. Maybe it arrived in Calabria secondhand from Sicily.
http://i.imgur.com/j17pzLA.png
This is why their argument falls apart:
a. Levantine input is higher in Palermo and Agrigento provinces where there was less Greek input, and is lowest in Syracuse where there was the most.
b. Syracusans and other nearby southeast Sicilians plot near MODERN Peloponnesians, implying Peloponnesians today are close to those who settled Sicily, minus a small amount more Slavic.
c. Peloponnesians do have significant Caucasian affinity but almost entirely lack the Levantine component, so where did it go?? It clearly wasn't there when they settled in Sicily.
d. It is well documented that western Sicily was once Phoenician and eventually Carthaginian land.
e. Sicilians are more Levantine on the maternal side and more Greek on the paternal side. The two components thus cannot be linked.
f. Greeks today have absorbed Pontics, Cypriots, Alexandria Greeks and are more MENA now than they ever have been before.
But given it also exists in Calabria, I am not so sure it is all Phoenician. See the red. Maybe it arrived in Calabria secondhand from Sicily.
http://i.imgur.com/j17pzLA.png