Can you be classified as 'Keltic Nordid' even if you dont have any Celtic blood?

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Pardon my ignorance as I am still learning but it just doesn't make any sense to me - can you be classified as 'Keltic Nordid' even if you dont have any Celtic blood in you?

[TheForeigner]

Classification threads are stupid and pointless.

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[Bosniensis]

Celts are Serbs.

It's a Serbian Military caste who migrated from Balkan religion to Gaul and created first settlements.

[Catkin]

Are you genetically English? If you are you do have Celtic blood in you. The differences between the English and the 'Celtic' nations like Scotland and Ireland is more down to culture, as they had less continental influence. Our genetics are pretty similar. Apologies if you knew this and are asking about someone not from the isles or an old Celtic area but who looks K-N :).

[Fantomas]

Pardon my ignorance as I am still learning but it just doesn't make any sense to me - can you be classified as 'Keltic Nordid' even if you dont have any Celtic blood in you?
Considering that depigmentation is an acquired feature, and KN type is metrically identical with Meds. -yes, there's no surprising if KNs or similar to them may be outside western Europe

[Fantomas]

Celts are Serbs.

It's a Serbian Military caste who migrated from Balkan religion to Gaul and created first settlements.
Accurate to the contrary, Celtic incomers from Gaul, invaded Balkan region and founded there the first kingdoms, Scordisci for example.

[Bosniensis]

Accurate to the contrary, Celtic incomers from Gaul, invaded Balkan region and founded there the first kingdoms, Scordisci for example.

Balkan region was populated when there was nobody in Gaul.

Celts , Illyrians and Thracians are cousins who migrated from Balkans to Entire Europe.

Gaul was colonized by Celts

Italy was Colonized of Rasena (Rasna) i.e. Rascians (Etrurians) and Greeks

Balkans is a ancient native territory of Celts, Thracians (Rascians), Illyrians and Greeks (ALL MIXED)

[Fantomas]

Balkan region was populated when there was nobody in Gaul.

Celts , Illyrians and Thracians are cousins who migrated from Balkans to Entire Europe.

Livy: Periochae. From book 63

Livius Drusus cos. adversus Scordiscos, gentem a Gallis oriundam, in Thracia feliciter pugnavit.

In Thrace, consul Livius Drusus successfully fought against the Scordiscians, a nation of Gallic descent.



Gaul was colonized by Celts
Gaul is the homeland of Celts


Balkans is a ancient native territory of Celts, Thracians (Rascians), Illyrians and Greeks (ALL MIXED)
For Illyrians, Thracians and Greeks maybe, but not for Celts. Celts invaded central and some parts of south-eastern Europe and only after that there appeared some mixed tribes


Celts , Illyrians and Thracians are cousins
No, they are not

[Bosniensis]

Livy: Periochae. From book 63

Livius Drusus cos. adversus Scordiscos, gentem a Gallis oriundam, in Thracia feliciter pugnavit.

In Thrace, consul Livius Drusus successfully fought against the Scordiscians, a nation of Gallic descent.



Gaul is the homeland of Celts


For Illyrians, Thracians and Greeks maybe, but not for Celts. Celts invaded central and some parts of south-eastern Europe and only after that there appeared some mixed tribes


No, they are not

Yes they are. Greeks have confirmed that in their scriptures that "Galatians" i.e. Celts are cousins of Illyrians. Pra-Ancient Ancestor "Celtus" and "Illyrius"
were two brothers who formed those nations. It is just that Celts are Extinct everywhere in Europe except Balkans.Ferocious Franks have slaughtered all of them during the Germanic invasion of Europe. (When Clovis and others crossed river Rhine)

Rome fought Gauls YES just as Sparta fought Troy, just as Serbia fought Bosnia etc... Civil Wars.

Germanic incursion in Europe wasn't a Civil war but an invasion.

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Are you genetically English? If you are you do have Celtic blood in you. The differences between the English and the 'Celtic' nations like Scotland and Ireland is more down to culture, as they had less continental influence. Our genetics are pretty similar. Apologies if you knew this and are asking about someone not from the isles or an old Celtic area but who looks K-N :).

I am genetically English yes, but this is more about my father https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?216672-Classify-my-Father-and-what-Countries-can-he-pass. He was classified as K-N but doesn't have any Celtic in his blood..
An example is: in Scandinavia I have read that you do not get any K-N at all, now they dont have any Celtic in their blood so this = no K-N phenotypes

[Fantomas]

Yes they are. Greeks have confirmed that in their scriptures that "Galatians" i.e. Celts are cousins of Illyrians. Pra-Ancient Ancestor "Celtus" and "Illyrius"
Celts can not be cousins of these Balkanic tribes because they're newcomers from Atlantic coast (Gaul)

Livy.Book V. about Celtic invasion:

37. To such an extent does Fortune blind men's eyes when she will not have her threatened blows parried, that though such a weight of disaster was hanging over the State, no special steps were taken to avert it. In the wars against Fidenae and Veii and other neighbouring States, a Dictator had on many occasions been nominated as a last resource. But now when an enemy, never seen or even heard of before, was rousing up war from ocean and the furthest corners of the world, no recourse was had to a Dictator, no extraordinary efforts were made. Those men through whose recklessness the war had been brought about were in supreme commands as tribunes, and the levy they raised was not larger than had been usual in ordinary campaigns, they even made light of the resorts as to the seriousness of the war.


Caesar, Gallic War.VI

And there was formerly a time when the Gauls excelled the Germans in prowess, and waged war on them offensively, and, on account of the great number of their people and the insufficiency of their land, sent colonies over the Rhine .


were two brothers who formed those nations. It is just that Celts are Extinct everywhere in Europe except Balkans.Ferocious Franks have slaughtered all of them during the Germanic invasion of Europe. (When Clovis and others crossed river Rhine)

Rome fought Gauls YES just as Sparta fought Troy, just as Serbia fought Bosnia etc... Civil Wars.

Germanic incursion in Europe wasn't a Civil war but an invasion.
Exactly the opposite. Celts were never seen and never heard before for Romans or any other nation. Moreover, later Celts were ideological antagonists for Roman empire by means of druidic religion and Christianity, beginning wars and insurrection while so long as Western Empire had been collapsed. From another side Germanic nations ,being refugees, regarded themselves as vassals of Rome and by their own free will wanted to settle in Roman lands and to serve the emperor. Thus, the numerous wars between Germanic (Roman foederates) kings in Roman lands in 5-6 centuries, that is the real civil war. Wars between Celts and Romans are conflict of the fundamentally different civilizations.

[Catkin]

Where is his ancestry from? Scandinavia? He does look British to me.

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Where is his ancestry from? Scandinavia? He does look British to me.

He is Anglo-Saxon skull and R1a-L664. I am trying to find out more information on my Fathers surname as it is a very rare name

[Cristiano viejo]

Celts are Serbs.

It's a Serbian Military caste who migrated from Balkan religion to Gaul and created first settlements.

Man, I love how you interpret the history xD

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Celts are Serbs.

Deretić J. : "Irci su Srbi."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDJ_sKQa__Y

[Bosniensis]

Deretić J. : "Irci su Srbi."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDJ_sKQa__Y

"raumete"

"r'umete"

hahahahhahahaah

[The Blade]

Copying this post of mine I wrote in another topic some time ago:
"The Keltic Nordid type probably shares its earliest formative history with the Hallstatt variety, or a similar proto-strain (for some brief speculation on the topic of Nordid origins, go here). The migratory existence associated with the ancestry of the Keltic type clearly involved the absorption of several non-Nordid strains, most importantly central European Dinarid (probably by association with the Bell-Beaker culture of the Neolithic and Bronze Ages). In this respect, one might say it is intermediate between the Hallstatt and Norid types. Additionally, the Keltic Nordid has mixed with Atlanto-Mediterranid (cf. North-Atlantid), the latter of which is probably present at a low level in the Keltic Nordid population as a whole." - again Coon (I am not a huge fan of his in general but he did well with the description of these types and I see no reason not to trust him in these cases)
Other anthropologists actually avoided using the term "Keltic" at all.

And now continuing:
Basically, it's a low-vaulted type with Hallstatt basis and also showing Dinarid/Baskid qualities.
Certainly it's a present look but the term "Keltic" has been used by some and avoided by others.
In Central Europe and Balkans similar individuals could simply be rated as more nordicized Norids (or dinaricized Nordids if you prefer).
The British look differs mostly for its low vault. Mediterranean-Keltic combinations are present in UK (whether the North Atlantid term is applicable is another matter) but Mediterranean admixture in the formation of Keltic Nordid proper is quite speculative and rather insignificant (if present).