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Thambi
12-06-2017, 03:38 AM
https://i.imgur.com/GCnepZH.jpg

wvwvw
12-06-2017, 03:58 AM
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wvwvw
12-06-2017, 04:00 AM
http://i65.tinypic.com/2vxgj9h.jpg

wvwvw
12-06-2017, 06:19 AM
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Hamlet
12-06-2017, 06:20 AM
http://i65.tinypic.com/2vxgj9h.jpg

Did you not say that you scored lots of Slavic?

wvwvw
12-06-2017, 06:22 AM
Did you not say that you scored lots of Slavic?

I was being sarcastic - see my reply to you above :D

You didn't score that much Slavic yourself.

kingjohn
12-06-2017, 07:13 AM
http://i65.tinypic.com/2vxgj9h.jpg

cool results :thumb001:
65% greece-albanian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdNn5TZu6R8 :cool:
so you score southwest european but not south-slavic siceliot explain ?:confused:
my mother also score 10% iberian like you
but she didn't pass it to me and my brother according to this calculator{my father score 0% southwest european like me and my brother}
the west asia in you is caucasus [kabrdin, adyghe}?
maybe some kind of chg

Karol Klačansky
12-06-2017, 11:15 AM
my results
https://preview.ibb.co/hr6qHw/geneplaza_k25.png (https://ibb.co/bS1Pcw)

kingjohn
12-06-2017, 04:13 PM
dear kurd ,
i have a questions which raise also in other dna forums
1}why did you group sicilian and sardinian in the same group
people ask about it ?
2}are they are so similar geneticaly ?
3}and if a person score for example : 20% sicilian -sardian how does he supose to know how much %
of it is sicilian and how much % of it is sardinain ?
with kind regards
and thanks in advance
adam

kurd answere was kind enough:
They are actually pretty distinct with Saridinians being more SW European shifted, although I am sure that genetic drift due to relative isolation has contributed to pull them apart. I had debated using them together, and the only reason I did was because they both share high drift with EEF and can be representative populations for a SC European component. I am still debating using only one and not the other.


dear kurd thanks
do you think there is a way a person can know from the sicilian -sardinian cluster he got how much % of it is sardinian and how much of it is sicilian ?
with kind regards
adam

kurd answere :
Not really :cry

Slavic Italian
12-06-2017, 06:45 PM
I bought it....gave me nothing I didn't already know from the free Gedmatch calcs.

Kurd's calc gave me identical readings as what I had on Eurogenes K10.

Gone West
12-06-2017, 06:49 PM
my results
https://preview.ibb.co/hr6qHw/geneplaza_k25.png (https://ibb.co/bS1Pcw)

Wow that much East Slavic.

Gone West
12-06-2017, 06:57 PM
I wonder why I score that much South Euro.

I am like 42.9 + 3.2 = 46.1% Southern European, that's huge.

https://image.ibb.co/ikVUcw/Screen_Shot_2017_12_06_at_20_55_30.png

kingjohn
12-06-2017, 07:03 PM
but you look northen european
nobody care about genetics man only in this dna forums
people judge the way a person look
and you don't look southern european
you don't look like antonio banderas even though you score 40% southwest europe .... :)

Slavic Italian
12-06-2017, 07:05 PM
but you look northen european
nobody care about genetics man only in this dna forums
people judge the way a person look
and you don't look southern european
you don't look like antonio banderas even though you score 40% southwest europe .... :)

Correct. You look more like a Slav than a Jew. Aren't they the same anyways? ;)

Gone West
12-06-2017, 07:06 PM
but you look northen european
nobody care about genetics man only in this dna forums
people judge the way a person look
and you don't look southern european
you don't look like antonio banderas even though you score 40% southwest europe .... :)

Of course and there are pale skinned Spaniards.

But I score no Northwestern Europe, and I am French born there.

According to the test I am mostly a Slav with Latino mix. I look like what in your opinion ?

kingjohn
12-06-2017, 07:21 PM
i am not good in clasification
i don't know anthropology never learn it in university { but even i can see that you don't look like southern european}
but look
is a results of american that all his ancestors were from west and south germany




NW European: 50.5
S Slavic: 23.5
W Slavic: 13.7
SW European: 11.6
Siberian: 0.4
Polar: 0.1
W African: 0.1
Oceanian: 0.1

and yes the west slavic is germanic :)
this dude ancestery not from eastern germany all ancestors from west and south germany .

spik
12-06-2017, 07:36 PM
Where from Kavkaz are you and scored 36,1% Slavic?

If I had to guess - probably North Caucasus (e.g. Stavropol Krai, etc...).

oszkar07
12-06-2017, 07:37 PM
i am not good in clasification
i don't know anthropology never learn it in university { but even i can see that you don't look like southern european}
but look
is a results of american that all his ancestors were from west and south germany




NW European: 50.5
S Slavic: 23.5
W Slavic: 13.7
SW European: 11.6
Siberian: 0.4
Polar: 0.1
W African: 0.1
Oceanian: 0.1

and yes the west slavic is germanic :)
this dude ancestery not from eastern germany all ancestors from west and south germany .

If WS was pure Germanic then his score shou.d be much higher if all his ancestry is German.
I suspect it is partly Germanic ,maybe more "germano-slavic" than say "germanic-celtic."
His WS score of 13.7 is not too high... he should score much higher if the sample is only by itself germanic... he is scoring 23.3 south slavic too ...so possibly he isnt all German , BUT he is also scoring NW Euro 50%.
Or the other possibility is the calc is just bogus/off.
If WS sample is pure germanic then what is the NW Euro sample ?

spik
12-06-2017, 07:39 PM
Of course and there are pale skinned Spaniards.

But I score no Northwestern Europe, and I am French born there.

According to the test I am mostly a Slav with Latino mix. I look like what in your opinion ?
I personally wouldn’t trust this test. Also, Latino usually refers to Latin Americans, no?

kingjohn
12-06-2017, 07:43 PM
If WS was pure Germanic then his score shou.d be much higher if all his ancestry is German.
I suspect it is partly Germanic ,maybe more germanic-slavic than say germanic-celtic.
His score of 13.7 is not too high... he should score much higher if the sample is only by itself germanic... he is scoring 23.3 south slavic too ...so possibly he isnt all German , or other possibility the calc is just bogus/off.
If WS sample is pure germanic then what is the NW Euro sample ?

it is randwulf father he is full german
but agree that the west slavic is like germanic slavic elment
but the main elment who defines germans is north west europe and
you can see that randulf father score 50 % north west europe .
the iberian stuff could be from south west germany all this area was setlled by celtic tribes before germanic tribes came
.....
and you look like haydrich i already told you that
http://skepticism-images.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/images/jreviews/Heydrich-1940.jpg

Gone West
12-06-2017, 08:00 PM
I personally wouldn’t trust this test. Also, Latino usually refers to Latin Americans, no?

Latino is for Latin people ? no ?

Maybe... How would you guess me by my look though ?

spik
12-06-2017, 08:24 PM
Latino is for Latin people ? no ?

Maybe... How would you guess me by my look though ?
As young Putin, of course. :thumb001:

kingjohn
12-06-2017, 08:50 PM
from anthrogenica
a person who is father his full belgian
hope you feal better now gone west :wink

Dad(Wallonia Belgium)

Northern European 45.3%
Northwestern 45.3%
Scandinavian 0%

Southern European
Southwest European 38.6% :icon_eyes:

Eastern European
Baltic 13.6%

Carlito's Way
12-06-2017, 09:04 PM
this is why i domt like wasting my money at all withthese stupid online results
With 5 dollars i couldve bought a slice of pizza and a soda

Apparently im a Greek-Albanian, worlds dumbest inaccurate results
The african is correct and wrongly named as East Africa which represents Bantu, i wish it had more reference samples from Central Africa such as Angola, but the african came out correct and beautiful, im a Bantu king
which make sense since Angolan slaves made the majority in Mexico and Angolans are Bantu people

kingjohn
12-06-2017, 09:44 PM
this is why i domt like wasting my money at all withthese stupid online results
With 5 dollars i couldve bought a slice of pizza and a soda

Apparently im a Greek-Albanian, worlds dumbest inaccurate results
The african is correct and wrongly named as East Africa which represents Bantu, i wish it had more reference samples from Central Africa such as Angola, but the african came out correct and beautiful, im a Bantu king
which make sense since Angolan slaves made the majority in Mexico and Angolans are Bantu people

ok can you post full results
how much greek albanian you scored? how much iberian ?
full results
will be much appricated :)

p.s
it is not that bad for 5 euro many dna companies are much worse kurd knows what he is doing .
anyway hold your breath because results are going to change next week and if you score something slavic it for sure will :)

kingjohn
12-07-2017, 08:36 AM
kurd run some Kurdish samples he have in his updated k24 some from northern iraq and also from iran and turkey
southern european admixture in kurds :thumb001:

I put some time aside to run a few Kurds through the updated K24.
Observations:

1- S European scores were relatively uniform at around 17%, with the Turkish Kurd expectedly a little higher at 23%. This likely represents shared ancient EEF ancestry with Sicilians/Sardinians and possibly some post-Roman geneflow :cool:

kingjohn
12-07-2017, 01:07 PM
tuscan

SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 83.5pc
Greek-Albanian 45.6pc
Southwest European 35.4pc
Sardinian-Sicilian 2.5pc low :confused:

EASTERN EUROPEAN 14.1pc
Southern Slavic 14.1pc

NORTHERN EUROPEAN 0.5pc
Scandinavian 0.5pc low

WEST ASIAN 2.0pc
South West Asian 2.0pc

Karol Klačansky
12-07-2017, 01:10 PM
Wow that much East Slavic.

thats not what suprises me, such low west slavic and such high baltic is what suprises me

kingjohn
12-07-2017, 07:08 PM
https://s5.postimg.org/tkalapzpz/euro_geneplaza.png
https://s5.postimg.org/6iu04yscn/wasia_geneplaza.png
https://s5.postimg.org/vouybslx3/casia_geneplaza.png

could be that you got the south slavic from your 1/8 non jew romanian/german
infact look logic ....

Hadouken
12-07-2017, 07:22 PM
kurd run some Kurdish samples he have in his updated k24 some from northern iraq and also from iran and turkey
southern european admixture in kurds :thumb001:

I put some time aside to run a few Kurds through the updated K24.
Observations:

1- S European scores were relatively uniform at around 17%, with the Turkish Kurd expectedly a little higher at 23%. This likely represents shared ancient EEF ancestry with Sicilians/Sardinians and possibly some post-Roman geneflow :cool:


in a few days I will run mine probably too

in the end it is always the same outcome though . if you would take other ethnicities to modell us we are basically like mix of about 75% Georgian (or georgian jew) and Cypriot + about 25% Pashtun/Tajik/Baloch

it is also visible in the 3 population admixes of calcs

50% Cypriot +25% Balochi +25% Lezgin @ 3.149063

50% Georgian_Jewtat +25% Cypriot +25% Pashtun @ 2.447618

50% Georgian_Jewtat +25% Cypriot +25% Tadjik @ 3.254034

50% Georgian_Jew +25% Kurd_SE +25% Sicilian @ 1.495526


etc.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?222323-Post-all-your-3-Population-approximations-from-any-calculator-you-can

Coolguy1
12-07-2017, 07:42 PM
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN54.9%
Greek-Albanian42.3%
Southwest European12.6%
Sardinian-Sicilian0.0%
EASTERN EUROPEAN34.4%
Southern Slavic32.8%
Baltic1.6%

WEST ASIA5.7%
South West Asian4.5%
Caucasian1.2%

C/SC/S ASIA5.1%
Central Asian 25.1%

Magnolia
12-07-2017, 08:06 PM
How can they use Czechs and Poles as "west Slavic" when Magnolia has been saying that they are sooo different? :rolleyes:
...]

because it is made by people like litvin.

Voskos
12-07-2017, 08:08 PM
tuscan

SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 83.5pc
Greek-Albanian 45.6pc
Southwest European 35.4pc
Sardinian-Sicilian 2.5pc low :confused:

EASTERN EUROPEAN 14.1pc
Southern Slavic 14.1pc

NORTHERN EUROPEAN 0.5pc
Scandinavian 0.5pc low

WEST ASIAN 2.0pc
South West Asian 2.0pc

Tuscans score Greek Albanian instead of Sardinian-Sicilian because they're more Northern-shifted compared to non indoeuropean meds.

War Chef
12-07-2017, 08:09 PM
because it is made by people like litvin.

I'm glad you searched for your name :lol00001:

otherwise I would've felt like a gossip

Magnolia
12-07-2017, 08:32 PM
I'm glad you searched for your name :lol00001:

otherwise I would've felt like a gossip

Not for my nickname ; ). And you can be calm, nothing happened.

War Chef
12-07-2017, 08:38 PM
Not for my nickname ; ). And you can be calm, nothing happened.

I know it was probably for the word "Czech" but for the sake of my raging narcissism I will tell myself it was "Muzzafir". ; )

kingjohn
12-08-2017, 09:10 PM
full pontian greek {from turkey}

WEST ASIA 63.4%

- Caucasian49.6%

- South West Asian 13.8% :thumb001:

EUROPEAN31.2%

- SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 31.2%
Greek-Albanian 15.9%
Sardinian-Sicilian 15.3%

C/SC/S ASIA 5.4%

- South Central Asian 5.4%

oszkar07
12-09-2017, 12:01 AM
it is randwulf father he is full german
but agree that the west slavic is like germanic slavic elment
but the main elment who defines germans is north west europe and
you can see that randulf father score 50 % north west europe .
the iberian stuff could be from south west germany all this area was setlled by celtic tribes before germanic tribes came
.....
and you look like haydrich i already told you that
http://skepticism-images.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/images/jreviews/Heydrich-1940.jpg


but agree that the west slavic is like germanic slavic elment
but the main elment who defines germans is north west europe and
you can see that randulf father score 50 % north west europe .

Well they used Czechs and Poles for the West Slavic.
I think this indicates that at least Czechs must have quite a fair bit Germanic component , I guess also depends what region of Poland were there samples.
But overall West Slavic seems to be a Slavo-Germanic component .
We really need to see some results of Poles and Czechs for this calc.

Karol Klačansky
12-09-2017, 12:56 AM
Well they used Czechs and Poles for the West Slavic.
I think this indicates that at least Czechs must have quite a fair bit Germanic component , I guess also depends what region of Poland were there samples.
But overall West Slavic seems to be a Slavo-Germanic component .
We really need to see some results of Poles and Czechs for this calc.I agree where are the poles at?

Also magnolia should take a dna test,but she claims its pointless and a waste of money.

Sent from my KIW-L21 using Tapatalk

kingjohn
12-09-2017, 06:03 AM
Well they used Czechs and Poles for the West Slavic.
I think this indicates that at least Czechs must have quite a fair bit Germanic component , I guess also depends what region of Poland were there samples.
But overall West Slavic seems to be a Slavo-Germanic component .
We really need to see some results of Poles and Czechs for this calc.

a guy who is mom is latvian
Hmm my mom got:
84.4% Baltic - might be reasonable
15.5% Western Slavic - not reasonable, no way is all of her non-Baltic ancestry Western Slavic, probably only a very tiny bit is, the bulk should likely be German and there probably is a little Scandinavian, Dutch and Oceanian and Scottish and Polish (this last part fits at least)

kurd answere
This is the reason I decided to remove the W Slavic component. It was volatile, since the Polish references overlapped on the E Slavic component references.
The clusters on the update are much better defined as I was able to identify and remove outliers from many clusters.:thumb001:

also other plans for the update of kurd:

The distinct clusters in the update are shown in the PCA in post 358 at http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...287#post319287

Also, I did reluctantly decide to remove Sardinians from the SC European cluster. The pros and cons of Sardinians were discussed in post 533 at http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...aza-com/page54

I'm also working on the SC Asian and C Asian 2 clusters. The revision here may result in an added component :thumb001:


p.s
another thing that kurd wants to do is add serbian to the south slavic cluster
and kosovars to the greek- albanian clusters ....
should be realy intresting and for sure many members will see the changes after the update :thumb001:

Dibran
12-09-2017, 06:12 PM
Supposedly the update will remove west slavic. It also is removing the outliers, and those overlapping within the South Slavic reference. Adding Serbs to it as well as bolstering Greek-Albanian with Kosovar samples. Next week sometime the update will go live, so we should be able to get our updated results.

Kelmendasi
12-09-2017, 09:26 PM
Supposedly the update will remove west slavic. It also is removing the outliers, and those overlapping within the South Slavic reference. Adding Serbs to it as well as bolstering Greek-Albanian with Kosovar samples. Next week sometime the update will go live, so we should be able to get our updated results.
Do we get it for free?

Bosniensis
12-09-2017, 09:40 PM
Supposedly the update will remove west slavic. It also is removing the outliers, and those overlapping within the South Slavic reference. Adding Serbs to it as well as bolstering Greek-Albanian with Kosovar samples. Next week sometime the update will go live, so we should be able to get our updated results.

nvm my mistake.

kingjohn
12-10-2017, 12:44 PM
Do we get it for free?

probably yes :)
i am very courious to see what happen with my brother 20% west slavic
after the update will it go to the east- slavic category ? will it go to other category ? :confused:

p.s
about the update some new information
kurd plans for the west asia componnet and other components


No, in fact I am totally upgrading the west Asian component . The update will have West Asian references who are less recently admixed than Caucasian populations. Those references currently inhabit Iraq Iran and Georgia
:thumb001:


Also, it looks like Bulgarians will no longer be references for the southern Slavik component :confused:

Also a Turkic component has been introduced and the central Asian and South Central Asian references have been revamped :clap2:

kingjohn
12-12-2017, 05:59 AM
http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?12934-K25-Updated-to-K29-Admixture-Calculator

kurd say that in Wednesday we will see the update in geneplazza :)

components and refernces:

REGION POP COMPONENT REFERENCES
W ASIA
W Asian 1 Georgians
W Asian 2 Iraqi & Georgian Jews
SW Asian Bedouin B, Saudi
C ASIA
Turkic 1 Bashkirs
Turkic 2 Tatars
Turkic 3 Turkmens
Turkic 4 Uzbek & Uyghur
C Asian 1 Tajikistani Tajiks
SC & S ASIA
SC Asian Balochi, Brahui
S Asian Gujarati C & D
E/SE ASIA & OCEANIA
E Asian Han, She, Tu, Japanese
SE Asian Burmese, Cambodian, Thai
Oceanian Australians, Papuans
SIBERIAN & AMERINDIAN
Siberian Nganasan, Koryak, Mansi
Polar Aleutians, Eskimos
S Amerindian Karitiana, Surui, & Quechua
C Amerindian Mayans, Mixe
N Amerindian Pima
EUROPEAN
Eastern Slavic Belarusians, Ukrainians { people who score it have Cossack genes i hope i will score it after the update not sure}
Southern Slavic Bosnian, Serbian, Montenegrin, Romanian
Baltic Latvian, Estonian, Lithuanian
NW European Orcadian, Scott, French, English
Scandanavian Swedes, Norwegian
Greek-Albanian Greeks, Albanians, Kosovo
Sardinian-Sicilian Sicilians
Southwest European Spanish
AFRICAN
E African Hadza, Luhya, Luo
W African Esan, Gambian, Yoruba

Dibran
12-13-2017, 02:42 AM
Do we get it for free?

Per Kurd, yes.

kingjohn
12-13-2017, 07:53 AM
what i like about this update that there is a mizrachi reference { iraqi and georgian jews}
as a groupW Asian 2- Iraqi & Georgian Jews
why kurd use them because they are more pure than the non jewish georgian
kurd said:

There are now 2 W Asian clusters. The Georgian cluster and the Iraqi/Georgian Jewish cluster.
The latter represents more ancient populations of the area as they are generally less recently admixed than many of the other modern populations in W Asia. :thumb001:


p.s
anthrogenica fell down :(
but from results i saw that he run
assyrian score 30% west asia 2 the mizrachi cluster the more pure west asian genes
and an antolian greek in his run score 19.5% of it very nice number :)

Bosniensis
12-13-2017, 08:25 AM
Any new on Keneplaza K25 update?

Is it out yet?

kingjohn
12-13-2017, 02:47 PM
Any new on Keneplaza K25 update?

Is it out yet?

i got to my geneplazza and my brother and parents
not a sign for change or update yet :confused:
i asked geneplazza in the chat about the update hope they will answere
anthrogenica also fell so we have no way to ask kurd whats going on .....
if i will see any update i will post my results :)

firemonkey
12-13-2017, 10:32 PM
The wait continues.

Dibran
12-13-2017, 10:50 PM
I messaged Geneplaza since 6am this morning, and its now 7pm. They never responded within that whole period. So, either their customer service team sucks, or they perhaps haven't received what they need for the update. idk.

kingjohn
12-14-2017, 11:52 AM
I messaged Geneplaza since 6am this morning, and its now 7pm. They never responded within that whole period. So, either their customer service team sucks, or they perhaps haven't received what they need for the update. idk.

maybe geneplazza didn't received the files from kurd ..... :confused:
is there any way we can contact kurd to ask whats going on with this damn update .... :mad:

Bosniensis
12-14-2017, 11:55 AM
maybe geneplazza didn't received the files from kurd ..... :confused:
is there any way we can contact kurd to ask whats going on with this damn update .... :mad:

Yea, I can't wait for update as well.

Bosniensis
12-14-2017, 02:09 PM
New K25 calculation is underway:

"To strengthen the S Slav cluster, I added Serbs, and to strengthen the Greek/Albanian cluster, I added references from Kosovo."

This guy doesn't get it really....

Serbs and Romanians are THE SAME people, there isn't a single smallest difference between them.

"To strengthen the S Slav cluster, I added Serbs" ---> To satisfy the needs of Albanians and Greeks?

Doesn't matter cause we all score Romanian Scores anyway, and that's again strong Balkan admixture.

Serbs spoke Latin language just like Romanians pre 6th century.

Slavic Italian
12-14-2017, 02:18 PM
New K25 calculation is underway:

"To strengthen the S Slav cluster, I added Serbs, and to strengthen the Greek/Albanian cluster, I added references from Kosovo."

This guy doesn't get it really....

Serbs and Romanians are THE SAME people, there isn't a single smallest difference between them.

"To strengthen the S Slav cluster, I added Serbs" ---> To satisfy the needs of Albanians and Greeks?

Doesn't matter cause we all score Romanian Scores anyway, and that's again strong Balkan admixture.

Serbs spoke Latin language just like Romanians pre 6th century.

I did not know this.

Peterski
12-14-2017, 02:46 PM
After the K29 update, it says I'm 79.5% Slavic and 20.5% Scandinavian.

Before in K25 I also had some Greek-Albanian, but now it disappeared.

Dibran
12-14-2017, 02:47 PM
New K25 calculation is underway:

"To strengthen the S Slav cluster, I added Serbs, and to strengthen the Greek/Albanian cluster, I added references from Kosovo."

This guy doesn't get it really....

Serbs and Romanians are THE SAME people, there isn't a single smallest difference between them.

"To strengthen the S Slav cluster, I added Serbs" ---> To satisfy the needs of Albanians and Greeks?

Doesn't matter cause we all score Romanian Scores anyway, and that's again strong Balkan admixture.

Serbs spoke Latin language just like Romanians pre 6th century.

He actually gets it way more than you do. The results are a shit ton more accurate now. Why you blaming Albanians and Greeks? Romanians don;t come significantly close to Serbs. Were that the case Serbs would be less distant to me. Given Romanians are in the ballpark. Notice with exclusion of Bulgarians and overlapping romanians that Albanians get practically no South Slavic. I suppose you found you getting 48 percent Greek-Albanian accurate. You obviously don;t know as much as Kurd.

My new results:

Me:

70590

Father:

70591

Mother:

70592

Bosniensis
12-14-2017, 02:50 PM
He actually gets it way more than you do. The results are a shit ton more accurate now. Why you blaming Albanians and Greeks? Romanians don;t come significantly close to Serbs. Were that the case Serbs would be less distant to me. Given Romanians are in the ballpark. Notice with exclusion of Bulgarians and overlapping romanians that Albanians get practically no South Slavic. I suppose you found you getting 48 percent Greek-Albanian accurate. You obviously don;t know as much as Kurd.

My new results:

Me:

70590

Father:

70591

Mother:

70592

I wonder how much Balkan Romanians are gonna score, they should score at least 70%, they are "Dacians", "Romans".

If they score less than that, then we should write to K29 author again.

Bosniensis
12-14-2017, 03:10 PM
Catastrophic Results of K29 calculator.

Utter Catastrophe.

This is what you get when Albanians and Greeks want to get rid of Dacians and other Thracian people:

You can try to remove us, but in the end it will end up in disaster just like this calculator:

I am 10% Asian? Which is beyond lunacy.

I am 29% NW Europe BEYOND LUNACY (Orcadian, Scott, French, English)

I am again.. even if they hoped to fit me in the casket with South Slavs = FAILED MISERABLY
cause South Slavs as Ethnic Group = DO NOT EXIST!

I am around 30% Slavic in reality.

Please someone share Romanian results so we can laugh more...

Yes.. they put "Dacians into South Slavic category" HAHAHAHHAH and I score 6.5% "South Slavic" even if Gedmatch gives me 1. Romanian in at least 8 calculators.

Look at this garbage:

Bosnian Vlach (ME) Results:

https://i.imgur.com/TXzuIOS.png

Nilotik
12-14-2017, 03:12 PM
I still score South Slavic
https://i.imgur.com/r4OyOOL.png

Dibran
12-14-2017, 03:39 PM
Catastrophic Results of K29 calculator.

Utter Catastrophe.

This is what you get when Albanians and Greeks want to get rid of Dacians and other Thracian people:

You can try to remove us, but in the end it will end up in disaster just like this calculator:

I am 10% Asian? Which is beyond lunacy.

I am 29% NW Europe BEYOND LUNACY (Orcadian, Scott, French, English)

I am again.. even if they hoped to fit me in the casket with South Slavs = FAILED MISERABLY
cause South Slavs as Ethnic Group = DO NOT EXIST!

I am around 30% Slavic in reality.

Please someone share Romanian results so we can laugh more...

Yes.. they put "Dacians into South Slavic category" HAHAHAHHAH and I score 6.5% "South Slavic" even if Gedmatch gives me 1. Romanian in at least 8 calculators.

Look at this garbage:

Bosnian Vlach (ME) Results:

https://i.imgur.com/TXzuIOS.png

You’re not Greek or Albanian though. Maybe you want to be so you’re upset with how your new results turned out.

You’re also retarded. He didn’t remove Romanian. He removed Bulgarian you shit for brains. And added Serbs. The only Romanians he removed were overlapping outliers.

This explains everything. Bulgarians cluster closer to Greeks and Albanians than most. So naturally with their removal from southern Slavic the component becomes more accurate.

It also depends what company you tested with. Results are shit other than 23andme.

kingjohn
12-14-2017, 03:40 PM
my results fuck it kurd it is damn accurate :thumb001:
EUROPEAN 71.7%
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 57.7%
Sardinian-Sicilian 36.7%
Greek-Albanian 19.0%
Southwest European 2.1% :mad:
EASTERN EUROPEAN 13.9%
Eastern Slavic 13.9% can still keep the mustache after all some cossack genes lol
Southern Slavic 0.0%
Baltic 0.0%
NORTHERN EUROPEAN0.0%
Northwest European0.0%
Scandinavian0.0%

ASIAN 28.3%
WEST ASIAN 23.6%
West Asian 12.3% thats iraq/georgian jews fox native genes to west asia
Southwest Asian 6.4% :arab:
Caucasian 4.9% still a little bit churka :)
SC/S ASIAN 4.7%
South Central Asian 4.7% still got sme indo-iranian genes even after this update it is inline with dna land

CENTRAL ASIAN 0.0%
Bashkirs0.0%
Tatars0.0%
Turkmens0.0%
Uzbek & Uyghur0.0%
Kazak & Kirgiz0.0%
Tajikistani0.0%
EAST-SOUTHEAST ASIAN0.0%
East Asian0.0%
Southeast Asian0.0%
SIBERIAN & AMERINDIAN0.0%
AFRICAN0.0%
Oceanian0.0%


p.s
i will later post my brother results he is more cossack than me and much more iberian :)

Slavic Italian
12-14-2017, 03:41 PM
You’re not Greek or Albanian though. Maybe you want to be so you’re upset with how your new results turned out.

You’re also retarded. He didn’t remove Romanian. He removed Bulgarian you shit for brains. And added Serbs. The only Romanians he removed were overlapping outliers.

This explains everything. Bulgarians cluster closer to Greeks and Albanians than most. So naturally with their removal from southern Slavic the component becomes more accurate.

It also depends what company you tested with. Results are shit other than 23andme.

Bro sorry but there are other services better than 23&me. Living DNA is even better than 23.

Dibran
12-14-2017, 03:41 PM
I still score South Slavic
https://i.imgur.com/r4OyOOL.png

Maybe you have some ancestry through marriage? What company did you test? The calculator is kind of crap for other companies than 23andme(v3-v4)

Dibran
12-14-2017, 03:43 PM
Bro sorry but there are other services better than 23&me. Living DNA is even better than 23.

You’re not understanding me. Kurds algorithms for K29 works best with 23andme. Worse with LivingDNA . Not too accurate with the rest. And it’s v3/v4 23andme that are most accurate for processing.

Dibran
12-14-2017, 03:45 PM
my results fuck it kurd it is damn accurate :thumb001:
EUROPEAN 71.7%
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 57.7%
Sardinian-Sicilian 36.7%
Greek-Albanian 19.0%
Southwest European 2.1% :mad:
EASTERN EUROPEAN 13.9%
Eastern Slavic 13.9% can still keep the mustache after all some cossack genes lol
Southern Slavic 0.0%
Baltic 0.0%
NORTHERN EUROPEAN0.0%
Northwest European0.0%
Scandinavian0.0%

ASIAN 28.3%
WEST ASIAN 23.6%
West Asian 12.3% thats iraq/georgian jews fox native genes to west asia
Southwest Asian 6.4% :arab:
Caucasian 4.9% still a little bit churka :)
SC/S ASIAN 4.7%
South Central Asian 4.7% still got sme indo-iranian genes even after this update it is inline with dna land

CENTRAL ASIAN 0.0%
Bashkirs0.0%
Tatars0.0%
Turkmens0.0%
Uzbek & Uyghur0.0%
Kazak & Kirgiz0.0%
Tajikistani0.0%
EAST-SOUTHEAST ASIAN0.0%
East Asian0.0%
Southeast Asian0.0%
SIBERIAN & AMERINDIAN0.0%
AFRICAN0.0%
Oceanian0.0%


p.s
i will later post my brother results he is more cossack than me and much more iberian :)


He’s the man. Bosniensis is mad he’s not Greek-Albanian anymore. So he’s blaming Greeks and Albanians for Kurds calculations. This calculator became way more accurate. All the southslavic fell off. Surely from removal of Bulgarians who cluster with Albanians and Greeks a little more than the rest. The removal of Romanian outliers helped as well. My father gets a smudge East Slavic. The Sardinian Sicilian is higher. Including Greek Albanian twice as high. Me and my mom got 100 Greek-Albanian

Bosniensis
12-14-2017, 03:48 PM
You’re not Greek or Albanian though. Maybe you want to be so you’re upset with how your new results turned out.

You’re also retarded. He didn’t remove Romanian. He removed Bulgarian you shit for brains. And added Serbs. The only Romanians he removed were overlapping outliers.

This explains everything. Bulgarians cluster closer to Greeks and Albanians than most. So naturally with their removal from southern Slavic the component becomes more accurate.

It also depends what company you tested with. Results are shit other than 23andme.

Results are Tweaked according to Greek and Albanian false history and agenda.

I have never claimed Ionian Ancestry but Thracian (Dacii, Tribali) and before that Illyrians cause I belived they were Thracian component.

If you think that Latin populace of Balkans aren't native to Balkan that's your problem.

Do you think that I am English, French?

Or Asian?

Do you still stand behind those my results?

You don't!

You just don't have an explanation for it.

You know that I am not English or French yet your tweaked calc says so.

I am sorry, but we are not Slavs as you hope...

You are living in imaginary world of propaganda and false history.

kingjohn
12-14-2017, 03:53 PM
a person should except what he is
i don't like the fact i have arab genes but thats life { i don't have prolems with the churka and the indo-iranian }
and he did score greek albanian he scored 27% high
dirban yes i saw your parents and your results very cool .
your father score some east slavic thats also cool :)
best regards
adam

p.s
i guess the removel of bulgarians and west slavic was a smart move it fixed the calculator

Bosniensis
12-14-2017, 04:06 PM
Apparently I am French and English now predominantly even if I have absolutely no connection to those people.

I don't care if this calculator is shit, it's really sad that Dibran won't accept the fact he's wrong...

Bosnians-Serbs matching French, English with 30%+ is NOT something what you can call "GOOD CALCULATOR" even if you won't ADMIT IT!

This K36 map proves you VERY WRONG.

: No overlap with French and English at all.

https://i.imgur.com/amDFs8m.png

Slavic Italian
12-14-2017, 04:12 PM
You’re not understanding me. Kurds algorithms for K29 works best with 23andme. Worse with LivingDNA . Not too accurate with the rest. And it’s v3/v4 23andme that are most accurate for processing.

I understood you clearly. 23%me failed to process 40% of my genetics. That is significant and not very impressive.

Nilotik
12-14-2017, 04:12 PM
Maybe you have some ancestry through marriage? What company did you test? The calculator is kind of crap for other companies than 23andme(v3-v4)

I tested with 23andme xD
Who knows. I'm not ruling out that some of my ancestors screwed some Shkavellkas but 43% seems huuuge. IDK honestly. I don't get any "Slavic" on DNA.Land, Gencove or the regular Geneplaza. Issa mystery.

Dibran
12-14-2017, 04:12 PM
Results are Tweaked according to Greek and Albanian false history and agenda.

I have never claimed Ionian Ancestry but Thracian (Dacii, Tribali) and before that Illyrians cause I belived they were Thracian component.

If you think that Latin populace of Balkans aren't native to Balkan that's your problem.

Do you think that I am English, French?

Or Asian?

Do you still stand behind those my results?

You don't!

You just don't have an explanation for it.

You know that I am not English or French yet your tweaked calc says so.

I am sorry, but we are not Slavs as you hope...

You are living in imaginary world of propaganda and false history.

Like I said. You don’t know shit about genetics. Have some reading comprehension will you?

You said Romanians were removed. They weren’t. They removed overlapping outliers.

Bulgarians were removed because they OVERLAP and they cluster with Albanians and greeks to some extent. This was fucking the cluster up.

You could be of mixed ancestry. After all Southern Slavs are heterogenous.

Also it depends what fucking company file you up loaded.

LivingDNA- worst
Ftdna/Ancestry- not good not bad.
23andme(v3/v4)- ideal. 5 works too but not as well. Algorithm is best adjusted to 23abdme.

If you uploaded other than the above specifications, you’re results are bound to be way off or shot.

For instance in my Ftdna file I get like no Greek Albanian and mainly Sardinian Sicilian and southwest Europe. Because Ftdna files suck for it. Plain and simple.

You’re not nearly equip to process Kurds level of understanding. The fact you think there’s an agenda makes you a mongoloid.

The false history is assuming you’re not Slavic and a Thracian and getting mad when your results tell you you’re not a Thracian or a Dacian or w.e desire you have concocted in your mind.

He removed Bulgarians and overlapping Romanians. This way mixed ancestry people are removed from the reference. Understand? Kosovars being least admixed Albanians was a good inclusion to bolster the reference.

Dibran
12-14-2017, 04:14 PM
I tested with 23andme xD
Who knows. I'm not ruling out that some of my ancestors screwed some Shkavellkas but 43% seems huuuge. IDK honestly. I don't get any "Slavic" on DNA.Land, Gencove or the regular Geneplaza. Issa mystery.

It could just be that you’re naturally more northern plotting and it’s confusing the steppe ancestry for South Slavic? My two cents.

Bosniensis
12-14-2017, 04:15 PM
Like I said. You don’t know shit about genetics. Have some reading comprehension will you?

You said Romanians were removed. They weren’t. They removed overlapping outliers.

Bulgarians were removed because they OVERLAP and they cluster with Albanians and greeks to some extent. This was fucking the cluster up.

You could be of mixed ancestry. After all Southern Slavs are heterogenous.

Also it depends what fucking company file you up loaded.

LivingDNA- worst
Ftdna/Ancestry- not good not bad.
23andme(v3/v4)- ideal. 5 works too but not as well. Algorithm is best adjusted to 23abdme.

If you uploaded other than the above specifications, you’re results are bound to be way off or shot.

For instance in my Ftdna file I get like no Greek Albanian and mainly Sardinian Sicilian and southwest Europe. Because Ftdna files suck for it. Plain and simple.

You’re not nearly equip to process Kurds level of understanding. The fact you think there’s an agenda makes you a mongoloid.

The false history is assuming you’re not Slavic and a Thracian and getting mad when your results tell you you’re not a Thracian or a Dacian or w.e desire you have concocted in your mind.

He removed Bulgarians and overlapping Romanians. This way mixed ancestry people are removed from the reference. Understand? Kosovars being least admixed Albanians was a good inclusion to bolster the reference.

It is true I am not an expert, I am not mad at you.

I have uploaded 23andMe v5

I am just mad cause you don't find my "British" 30% wrong.

I am not Mad or obsessed by anything, I was hoping 50/50 Slav/Native as you were telling me .. but this is something else.

Dibran
12-14-2017, 04:17 PM
I understood you clearly. 23%me failed to process 40% of my genetics. That is significant and not very impressive.

That’s 23 fault on you. Not Kurds K29 calculator. Also my moms first kit can back 30 percent unassigned. She did it again and the issue resolved. She unfortunately didn’t follow the instructions of collection to a 2 hense large unassigned chunk.

A lot of people didn’t test with 23 and still use this calculator and are mad at their results. The algorithm like I said is not very accurate with other kits. Your case is more delicate given their chunk of unassigned ancestry. Best.

Slavic Italian
12-14-2017, 04:18 PM
That’s 23 fault on you. Not Kurds K29 calculator. Also my moms first kit can back 30 percent unassigned. She did it again and the issue resolved. She unfortunately didn’t follow the instructions of collection to a 2 hense large unassigned chunk.

A lot of people didn’t test with 23 and still use this calculator and are mad at their results. The algorithm like I said is not very accurate with other kits. Your case is more delicate given their chunk of unassigned ancestry. Best.

I'm thinking about retesting next year but not until they are rid of the V4 kits.

Nilotik
12-14-2017, 04:19 PM
It could just be that you’re naturally more northern plotting and it’s confusing the steppe ancestry for South Slavic? My two cents.

That's a possibility too of course. I remember on that PCA with Albanian members I was as northern as user IceT, just a bit east-shifted from him. Not as northern as Fustan though.

Dibran
12-14-2017, 04:19 PM
It is true I am not an expert, I am not mad at you.

I have uploaded 23andMe v5

I am just mad cause you don't find my "British" 30% wrong.

I am not Mad or obsessed by anything, I was hoping 50/50 Slav/Native as you were telling me .. but this is something else.

You read it as British. I read it as Northwest European. It’s pribably bell beaker. See? You’re taking labels too seriously here. You’re Greek Albanian mostly converted to south west Europe. V5 works but not better than v4. Per my understanding of his algorithm explanation on anthro. I didn’t say you’re mad at me. But lying and making up an agenda cause you don’t like your results, is not very productive.

Bosniensis
12-14-2017, 04:24 PM
You read it as British. I read it as Northwest European. It’s pribably bell beaker. See? You’re taking labels too seriously here. You’re Greek Albanian mostly converted to south west Europe. V5 works but not better than v4. Per my understanding of his algorithm explanation on anthro. I didn’t say you’re mad at me. But lying and making up an agenda cause you don’t like your results, is not very productive.

I am sorry I was a bit rude, I do explode sometimes.

Thank you for explanation, We could have some Celtic influence cause they mixed with us.

Cheers.

Dibran
12-14-2017, 04:29 PM
I'm thinking about retesting next year but not until they are rid of the V4 kits.

Doubt they will. They will get a shit ton of angry customers if they remove v3/v4 testers from the site.

Slavic Italian
12-14-2017, 04:30 PM
Doubt they will. They will get a shit ton of angry customers if they remove v3/v4 testers from the site.

I meant until they use up all the V4 based kits. Right now I hear when people order some get the V4 others receive the V5.

Freeroostah
12-14-2017, 04:42 PM
Greek-Albanian = 75.3%
Sardinian-Sicilian = 12.1%
Eastern Slavic = 8.3%
South-West Asian = 3.3%
West Asian = 1.1%


Better than the previous one

Dibran
12-14-2017, 05:00 PM
I am sorry I was a bit rude, I do explode sometimes.

Thank you for explanation, We could have some Celtic influence cause they mixed with us.

Cheers.

Apology accepted. Actually you could be right. A lot of Celtic tribes pushed through Bosnia even into Kosova. On Mlukasz K48 I get almost 9 Celtic. My mom almost 10 and my father like 6 percent. That could explain it too.

So, since northwest component is strongest in celts perhaps it’s just an older component/admixture. Best.

Dibran
12-14-2017, 05:01 PM
Greek-Albanian = 75.3%
Sardinian-Sicilian = 12.1%
Eastern Slavic = 8.3%
South-West Asian = 3.3%
West Asian = 1.1%


Better than the previous one

Makes way more sense. Our results also are much clearer now.

Slavic Italian
12-14-2017, 05:04 PM
Greek-Albanian = 75.3%
Sardinian-Sicilian = 12.1%
Eastern Slavic = 8.3%
South-West Asian = 3.3%
West Asian = 1.1%


Better than the previous one

Dude are you on your phone while you are working out? You millennials need to leave your phones in the car when you are at the gym.:picard2:

Freeroostah
12-14-2017, 05:08 PM
Dude are you on your phone while you are working out? You millennials need to leave your phones in the car when you are at the gym.:picard2:

The music of the gym sucks....you cant just lift without motivation..!

firemonkey
12-14-2017, 05:20 PM
Picked up some East Slavic.


70595

Slavic Italian
12-14-2017, 05:21 PM
They did better this time. Matches my handle.

SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 29.7%
Southwest European29.7%
Greek-Albanian0.0%
Sardinian-Sicilian0.0%
EASTERN EUROPEAN 29.3%
Baltic17.3%
Eastern Slavic12.0%
Southern Slavic0.0%
NORTHERN EUROPEAN 27.8%
Northwest European19.3%
Scandinavian8.4%
ASIAN12.7%
WEST ASIAN10.8%
CENTRAL ASIAN1.8%
Turkmens1.2%
Tatars0.6%
SIBERIAN & AMERINDIAN0.5%

Slavic Italian
12-14-2017, 05:25 PM
The music of the gym sucks....you cant just lift without motivation..!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SUzcDUERLo

kingjohn
12-14-2017, 05:40 PM
my brother: :thumb001:

EUROPEAN 69.0%
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 49.0%
Sardinian-Sicilian 30.1%
Southwest European 19.0%
Greek-Albanian 0.0%
EASTERN EUROPEAN 20.0%
Eastern Slavic 20.0% nice
Southern Slavic 0.0%
Baltic0.0%
NORTHERN EUROPEAN0.0%
Northwest European0.0%
Scandinavian0.0%
ASIAN 30.6%
WEST ASIAN 27.7%
West Asian 13.7%
Southwest Asian 9.4%
Caucasian 4.6%
CENTRAL ASIAN 2.8%
Turkmens 2.8% :) nice nice
SIBERIAN & AMERINDIAN 0.4%
POLAR & SIBERIAN 0.4%
Polar 0.4%
Siberian0.0%
NATIVE AMERICAN
AFRICAN 0.0%
East African0.0%
West African0.0%
Oceanian 0.0%

Freeroostah
12-14-2017, 05:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SUzcDUERLo

:bowlol::thumb001:

Stears
12-14-2017, 05:44 PM
My girlfriend results
https://i.imgur.com/RdAkRjv.png
https://i.imgur.com/BMkF5y3.png

Stears
12-14-2017, 05:46 PM
I think it is the shit calculator. because the idiots removed the western slavic cathegory. Mine result haven't calculated yet...

Vlatko Vukovic
12-14-2017, 05:48 PM
I think it is the shit calculator. because the idiots removed the western slavic cathegory. Mine result haven't calculated yet...

2.3 central asian? I think it's impossible for the phenotype as she has.

Stears
12-14-2017, 05:51 PM
2.3 central asian? I think it's impossible for the phenotype as she has.

You mongoloid southern slavs :))))))

Vlatko Vukovic
12-14-2017, 05:53 PM
You mongoloid southern slavs :))))))

Hahah. It's alien in average genetics here.

There is "Serbian DNA project" site today, and there are all results form the most of Serbian families. Turkish Y-DNA are very very rare, and asian as well. But "Albanian" "E" is common in Serbia quite.

Stears
12-14-2017, 06:58 PM
https://i.imgur.com/M3CWIZc.png
https://i.imgur.com/nz1zfB0.png

Stears
12-14-2017, 06:59 PM
the Tatars are not Central Asians. They live in Europe.

Antimage
12-14-2017, 07:01 PM
2.3 central asian? I think it's impossible for the phenotype as she has.

:picard2:

RN97
12-14-2017, 07:19 PM
[IMG]hIMG]

lol, up until you got those results, you didn't consider Russia Europe even. However, even so. A huge bulk of tatars actually live in central Asia so the sample was probably from Central Asian tatars.
BTW, wow, you're a chink dude!

RN97
12-14-2017, 07:22 PM
https://i.imgur.com/3aID17k.png

Stears
12-14-2017, 07:56 PM
lol, up until you got those results, you didn't consider Russia Europe even. However, even so. A huge bulk of tatars actually live in central Asia so the sample was probably from Central Asian tatars.
BTW, wow, you're a chink dude!

The Tatars are genetically close to Finno-Ugric populations. You should have barked before scoring own asiatic admixture, monkey-face :)))))

de Burgh II
12-14-2017, 07:59 PM
100% Celtic.... lmao! :p

https://s8.postimg.org/81zulvg85/Untitled.jpg

:peep:

RN97
12-14-2017, 08:03 PM
The Tatars are genetically close to Finno-Ugric populations. You should have barked before scoring own asiatic admixture, monkey-face :)))))

West-asian is caucasoid. Central Asian is not. I have only 0.5% Siberian.

Stears
12-14-2017, 08:05 PM
West-asian is caucasoid. Central Asian is not. I have only 0.5% Siberian.

the Tatars are not central asian population. And your Siberian score is higher than mine.

Deal with it.

kingjohn
12-14-2017, 08:07 PM
people here who score west asian
don't be shy :wink
show exactly what it is made of
:)
stears had balls he showed :)

kingjohn
12-14-2017, 08:11 PM
I think it is the shit calculator. because the idiots removed the western slavic cathegory. Mine result haven't calculated yet...

lol
:rotfl:
thats what happen to my brother and mother all there west slavic moved to the east slavic :clap2:

Karol Klačansky
12-14-2017, 08:26 PM
100% Celtic.... lmao! [emoji14]

https://s8.postimg.org/81zulvg85/Untitled.jpg

:peep:Dang man, impressive

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Karol Klačansky
12-14-2017, 08:30 PM
https://i.imgur.com/3aID17k.pngLooks pretty accurate based on your ancestry

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Bosniensis
12-14-2017, 08:31 PM
Is there any Bulgarian or Romanian with GenePlaza K29 result :(

RN97
12-14-2017, 08:46 PM
Looks pretty accurate based on your ancestry

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IDK that I'm 6.8% west Asian, but I guess.

Karol Klačansky
12-14-2017, 08:47 PM
IDK that I'm 6.8% west Asian, but I guess.Dont you usually score some Jewish though in a lot of tests?

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RN97
12-14-2017, 08:49 PM
Dont you usually score some Jewish though in a lot of tests?

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I don't see how they'd be better than 23andme. I am <0.1% jewish on 23andme

Karol Klačansky
12-14-2017, 08:56 PM
I don't see how they'd be better than 23andme. I am <0.1% jewish on 23andmeWest asian is common in south eastern europe in general though. Not too suprising

Gangrel
12-14-2017, 08:58 PM
https://i.imgur.com/bY3kRXN.png
https://i.imgur.com/CJfmBE4.png

kingjohn
12-14-2017, 09:00 PM
the west asian1 6.8% is based on iraqi/georgian jews
kurd himslef said that this jewish populations are less recently mixed and reflect
west asia substructure from ancient time :thumbs
there are some non jews who scored it and asyyrian 30% and antolian greek 19.5%
also kurds :)
those are west asian genes
and you happen to share 6.8% of your allells with this refernce .....
i guess from your non jewish romanian side dacian genes :thumb001:

Stears
12-14-2017, 09:13 PM
Dont you usually score some Jewish though in a lot of tests?

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He does, and he looks like a Jewish mixature boy.

kingjohn
12-14-2017, 09:20 PM
i now checked kurd spreadsheet
dorkymoon which is northeast romanian also
score like RN97 west asia 1 - 5.93% iraqi/georgian jews
those are dacian genes case closed :)

Stears
12-14-2017, 09:23 PM
i now checked kurd spreadsheet
dorkymoon which is northeast romanian also
score like RN97 west asia 1 - 5.93% iraqi/georgian jews
those are dacian genes case closed :)

Dacians were Jewish ? or is it from the middle eastern Roman soldiers who retire in balkan ? :)))))

kingjohn
12-14-2017, 09:27 PM
Dacians were Jewish ? or is it from the middle eastern Roman soldiers who retire in balkan ? :)))))

both bulgarians and south central romanians score significant west asia in my origins 2.0
this is elment that was present in the balkan
it is not jewish
for god sake there is a north italian in kurd spreedsheet who score 11% west asia 1/ iraqi georgian jews .
why people so obsesed with jews like we are fucking disease we are human like anyone else :)

Dick
12-14-2017, 09:30 PM
https://i.imgur.com/TXzuIOS.png

Maybe you really are a bronze Age Illyrian(mix of celtic/steppe/balkan)

Stears
12-14-2017, 09:31 PM
both bulgarians and south central romanians score significant west asia in my origins 2.0
this is elment that was present in the balkan
it is not jewish
for god sake there is a north italian in kurd spreedsheet who score 11% west asia 1/ iraqi georgian jews .
why people so obsesed with jews like we are fucking disease we are human like anyone else :)

Ask your Romanian friend, it is him that want nothing to do with the Jews. it does not suprising, since many Romanians are nazi.

RN97
12-14-2017, 09:31 PM
the west asian1 6.8% is based on iraqi/georgian jews
kurd himslef said that this jewish populations are less recently mixed and reflect
west asia substructure from ancient time :thumbs
there are some non jews who scored it and asyyrian 30% and antolian greek 19.5%
also kurds :)
those are west asian genes
and you happen to share 6.8% of your allells with this refernce .....
i guess from your non jewish romanian side dacian genes :thumb001:

All south slavs + Romanians seem to score it though. West Asian admixture came to the Balkans way before the Dacians with the anatolian farmers.

Stears
12-14-2017, 09:33 PM
All south slavs + Romanians seem to score it though. West Asian admixture came to the Balkans way before the Dacians with the anatolian farmers.

No, they don't. My Croatian GF score zero percent, and she is suposedly partially Jewish.

Dick
12-14-2017, 09:35 PM
Why does this take so long? It's been over 10 hours and I live in a 1st world country.

Karol Klačansky
12-14-2017, 09:36 PM
Finally my results came in, seems pretty good my eastern euro makes more sense. Im a little surprised at how high my greek and albanian is and how low the north western euro is.

EASTERN EUROPEAN61.0%
Eastern Slavic37.9%
Baltic23.1%
Southern Slavic0.0%
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN24.7%
Greek-Albanian18.7%
Sardinian-Sicilian6.0%
Southwest European0.0%
NORTHERN EUROPEAN13.9%
Northwest European13.9%
Scandinavian0.0%
SIBERIAN & AMERINDIAN0.4%
ASIAN0.0%
AFRICAN0.0%
Oceanian

kingjohn
12-14-2017, 09:36 PM
Ask you Romanian friend, it is him that want nothing to do with the Jews. it does not suprising, since many Romanians are nazi.

i noticed it :)

Voskos
12-14-2017, 09:37 PM
When you people see your results all you have to do is just DEAL WITH IT!

kingjohn
12-14-2017, 09:39 PM
When you people see your results all you have to do is just DEAL WITH IT!

can you post your update please :pray:

Karol Klačansky
12-14-2017, 09:39 PM
Why does this take so long? It's been over 10 hours and I live in a 1st world country.Mine took forever

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de Burgh II
12-14-2017, 09:39 PM
Why does this take so long? It's been over 10 hours and I live in a 1st world country.

:sad:

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/005/393/IKIFEEL.jpg

RN97
12-14-2017, 09:41 PM
No, they don't. My Croatian GF score zero percent, and she is suposedly partially Jewish.

You score a million times more exotic than me, you tatar. Jews are more like Europeans than central Asians are.

Stears
12-14-2017, 09:41 PM
so I score more northern European, than the Slovak-British mixature guy.

Stears
12-14-2017, 09:44 PM
You score a million times more exotic than me, you tatar. Jews are more like Europeans than central Asians are.

Wrong. The Tatars are genetically majority eastern european + mongoloid admixture. Their main haplogroup is N1c.
so they are close to Volga Finnic populations, in all aspects.

It is normal for me, to score such admixture.

Kelmendasi
12-14-2017, 09:44 PM
Mine are still the same, 100% Greek-Albanian

Dibran
12-14-2017, 09:54 PM
both bulgarians and south central romanians score significant west asia in my origins 2.0
this is elment that was present in the balkan
it is not jewish
for god sake there is a north italian in kurd spreedsheet who score 11% west asia 1/ iraqi georgian jews .
why people so obsesed with jews like we are fucking disease we are human like anyone else :)

Maybe not all, but per Eupedia, Kurds North Italian reference(unknown to him) is supposedly a southern Italian from Northern Italy. In this case, the west Asian would make sense.

Voskos
12-14-2017, 09:55 PM
can you post your update please :pray:

10%Jew
90% Gentile

Dibran
12-14-2017, 09:56 PM
Mine are still the same, 100% Greek-Albanian

Same with me and my mom. My father was 81-82 Greek-Albanian, 16-17 Sardinian-Sicilian and 3-4 East Slavic.

wvwvw
12-14-2017, 09:58 PM
"Your results are being calculated (takes 2-30 min). We will send you an email shortly!"

but it's been 8 hours now and my new results are still not ready!!

Dibran
12-14-2017, 09:59 PM
Finally my results came in, seems pretty good my eastern euro makes more sense. Im a little surprised at how high my greek and albanian is and how low the north western euro is.

EASTERN EUROPEAN61.0%
Eastern Slavic37.9%
Baltic23.1%
Southern Slavic0.0%
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN24.7%
Greek-Albanian18.7%
Sardinian-Sicilian6.0%
Southwest European0.0%
NORTHERN EUROPEAN13.9%
Northwest European13.9%
Scandinavian0.0%
SIBERIAN & AMERINDIAN0.4%
ASIAN0.0%
AFRICAN0.0%
Oceanian

Maybe in your case Greek-Albanian is Neolithic admoxture from assimilated northwest Illyrians? Assuming they had the similar Neolithic component.

kingjohn
12-14-2017, 10:00 PM
Maybe not all, but per Eupedia, Kurds North Italian reference(unknown to him) is supposedly a southern Italian from Northern Italy. In this case, the west Asian would make sense.

anyway it is not recent mizrachi ancestery
just shared ancient west asian markers with this refernce {iraqi/georgian jews}
i want to see a bulgarian and more romanian results to see about this elment
it could be daco-thracian thing :)

Dibran
12-14-2017, 10:00 PM
"Your results are being calculated (takes 2-30 min). We will send you an email shortly!"

but it's been 8 hours now and my new results are still not ready!!

Try signing out and back in. Sometimes if you stay logged in it won’t actually display results until you sign back in. At least for me this happened.

wvwvw
12-14-2017, 10:01 PM
Try signing out and back in. Sometimes if you stay logged in it won’t actually display results until you sign back in. At least for me this happened.

I signed in and out multiple times, it didn't work.

War Chef
12-14-2017, 10:07 PM
I R SEXY MIX (much better than the RN hahaha)

https://i.imgur.com/PcDBAzl.png

https://i.imgur.com/Gjr0jm4.png

Karol Klačansky
12-14-2017, 10:09 PM
Maybe in your case Greek-Albanian is Neolithic admoxture from assimilated northwest Illyrians? Assuming they had the similar Neolithic component.How far north were the Illyrians?

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War Chef
12-14-2017, 10:09 PM
I am 29% NW Europe BEYOND LUNACY (Orcadian, Scott, French, English)



Stop denying your Balkan-Celt heritage.

kleenex
12-14-2017, 10:17 PM
You’re not Greek or Albanian though. Maybe you want to be so you’re upset with how your new results turned out.

You’re also retarded. He didn’t remove Romanian. He removed Bulgarian you shit for brains. And added Serbs. The only Romanians he removed were overlapping outliers.

This explains everything. Bulgarians cluster closer to Greeks and Albanians than most. So naturally with their removal from southern Slavic the component becomes more accurate.

It also depends what company you tested with. Results are shit other than 23andme.

You're probably right about the "shit other than 23/me" statement as my combined Caucasus/West Asian score was a bit higher than I expected as I tested with 'Caucasus Happy" Ancestry.

Bosniensis
12-14-2017, 10:20 PM
Does anyone have Romanian/Bulgarian Raw data.

I want to upload some to GenePlaza

Ylla
12-14-2017, 10:28 PM
I got 100% greek-albanian this time

wvwvw
12-14-2017, 10:31 PM
http://i68.tinypic.com/rh95ax.png

I am surprised that all the Sardinian/Sicilian became Basque/Spanish.

And where does the 4,3% Scandinavian comes from. 23andme does not pick any.

kingjohn
12-14-2017, 10:33 PM
full tuscan from other forum :

Southwest European 38.0pc (Basque, Spanish)

Greek-Albanian 35.7pc (Greeks, Albanians, Kosovo)

South Slavic 17.2pc (Bosnian, Montenegrin, Bulgarian, Romanian)

West Asian 5.7pc (Iraqi and Georgian Jews) :)

Southwest Asian 2.3pc (Bedouin B, Saudi)

Northwest European 1.2pc (Orcadian, Scottish, French and English)

Dick
12-14-2017, 10:35 PM
At least I'm 100% European and zero Greek-Albanian :thumbs


https://i.imgur.com/3oupwLc.jpg

Swahili_sultan
12-14-2017, 10:37 PM
My results...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/69c4dc69d79b650439bf46b8469a2bb1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/9e1407586ea01e0647adc676a65ba3ab.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/272644111bb493f09bb62c026018a015.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/aec51be41c15d25bedef8e45f00705b2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/98ccf8f15ce003786a3fb069afd6be12.jpg

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wvwvw
12-14-2017, 10:38 PM
full tuscan from other forum :

Southwest European 38.0pc (Basque, Spanish)

Greek-Albanian 35.7pc (Greeks, Albanians, Kosovo)

South Slavic 17.2pc (Bosnian, Montenegrin, Bulgarian, Romanian)

West Asian 5.7pc (Iraqi and Georgian Jews) :)

Southwest Asian 2.3pc (Bedouin B, Saudi)

Northwest European 1.2pc (Orcadian, Scottish, French and English)

Odd that even the Tuscan did not score any 'Sardinian-Sicilian'. My Asian is all west Asian and 1,5 Caucasian. No SW Asian.But aren't Iraqis supposed to be South-west Asian?

ALL
12-14-2017, 10:44 PM
Dinaricized Paleo-Atlantid- from an unkown Silesian shtetl :thumb001:
EASTERN EUROPEAN 62.6%
Eastern Slavic 33.0%
Baltic 29.6%
NORTHERN EUROPEAN 26.5%
Northwest European 26.5%
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 10.8%
Greek-Albanian 10.8%
CENTRAL ASIAN 0.1%
Turkmens 0.1%

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wvwvw
12-14-2017, 10:44 PM
At least I'm 100% European and zero Greek-Albanian :thumbs

https://78.media.tumblr.com/dacaf9404b50e00446beb106c77bbb61/tumblr_mz0ktwXWso1rxwphwo1_500.gif

Bosniensis
12-14-2017, 10:46 PM
Apparently I am not Bosnian... South Slav 6.5%

kingjohn
12-14-2017, 10:46 PM
Odd that even the Tuscan did not score any 'Sardinian-Sicilian'. My Asian is all west Asian and 1,5 Caucasian. No SW Asian.But aren't Iraqis supposed to be South-west Asian?

can you post full results
it is not that odd his roots from northwest tuscany
maybe ligurian elment was stronger there thats why he score huge iberian :)

MercifulServant
12-14-2017, 10:48 PM
Apparently I am not Bosnian... South Slav 6.5%

The calculator is clearly BS

wvwvw
12-14-2017, 10:48 PM
can you post full results
it is not that odd his roots from northwest tuscany
maybe ligurian elment was stronger there thats why he score huge iberian :)

They are in the previous page.

I know, but Sardinians and Sicilians are too Italians.

War Chef
12-14-2017, 10:48 PM
http://i68.tinypic.com/rh95ax.png

I am surprised that all the Sardinian/Sicilian became Basque/Spanish.

And where does the 4,3% Scandinavian comes from. 23andme does not pick any.

Don't hide - Let's see the "Asian" Turk-girl.....

joking joking :p

Bosniensis
12-14-2017, 10:50 PM
The calculator is clearly BS

I am not expert, can't judge it myself but it's bit different than Gedmatch calculators :P

wvwvw
12-14-2017, 10:51 PM
Apparently I am not Bosnian... South Slav 6.5%

Of course not. You're a Thraco-Roman ;)

MercifulServant
12-14-2017, 10:51 PM
I am not expert, can't judge it myself but it's bit different than Gedmatch calculators :P

Whats with that new avatar man, lol.

Bobby Martnen
12-14-2017, 10:51 PM
I am 185, my Father 185 his brother 192, my Grandfather 195, my Brother 185.

I doubt that any of you can match these results.

I'm 5'11"

Bosniensis
12-14-2017, 10:54 PM
Of course not. You're a Thraco-Roman ;)

Still better than Greek.

firemonkey
12-14-2017, 10:56 PM
These are fun to do but quite hard to take seriously. My ancestry(complete to 3gt) is as far as I know 100% British. Yet I get 20% Scandinavian and 10% East Slavic with this calculator. Given the history of the British isles some Scandinavian is within the realm of possibility albeit much less than 20%. The East Slavic however makes no sense.

Dick
12-14-2017, 10:57 PM
These are fun to do but quite hard to take seriously. My ancestry(complete to 3gt) is as far as I know 100% British. Yet I get 20% Scandinavian and 10% East Slavic with this calculator. Given the history of the British isles some Scandinavian is within the realm of possibility albeit much less than 20%. The East Slavic however makes no sense.

Mine is accurate for a 100% Serbian.

wvwvw
12-14-2017, 10:59 PM
Don't hide - Let's see the "Asian" Turk-girl.....

joking joking :p

http://i68.tinypic.com/rh95ax.png

http://i63.tinypic.com/23gxrns.jpg

MercifulServant
12-14-2017, 11:01 PM
Mine is accurate for a 100% Serbian.

I thought you were only half Serb

wvwvw
12-14-2017, 11:02 PM
Mine is accurate for a 100% Serbian.

Weren't you half British or Irish ?

Bosniensis
12-14-2017, 11:03 PM
West Asian is probably Anatolian admixture... Isaurians and others

Dick
12-14-2017, 11:04 PM
I thought you were only half Serb

No. I'm 100% European and Serbian from the Balkans.

MercifulServant
12-14-2017, 11:05 PM
No. I'm 100% European and Serbian from the Balkans.

Ik you are 100 percent euro but arent you half some other euro

Dick
12-14-2017, 11:18 PM
Ik you are 100 percent euro but arent you half some other euro

No man, from the Banat and Dalmatia.

kingjohn
12-14-2017, 11:36 PM
full italian from emilia romagna northeast italy
noticeble celtic- gaulic influence :)

European 92.9%
- Southern European 70.4%
Greek-Albanian 54.8%
Sardinian-Sicilian 15.6%
- Northern European 22.5%
Northwest European 15.7%
Scandinavian 6.7%

Asian 7.1%
- West Asian 4.2%
Southwest Asian 2.2%
Caucasian 2%
- Central Asian 2.9%
Tatars 2.9%

Dibran
12-14-2017, 11:50 PM
No. I'm 100% European and Serbian from the Balkans.

You're Serbian? shit, I actually like you. First time for everything I guess hhahaha.

MysteriousWays
12-14-2017, 11:51 PM
It seems foolish to have a Sicilian-Sardinian cluster in any case. They are quite different populations from each other genetically. Here is a summary of mine with the revised results (too lazy to take screenshots of it right now):

European: 61.2%
Asian: 38.1%
African: 0.6%
Siberian & Amerindian: 0.1%

European:
Southern European 47.4%
-Sardinian/Sicilian: 30.8%
-Southwest European: 16.6%
-Greek/Albanian: 0%
Eastern European 13.8% (all in Eastern Slavic; this is definitely too high for me)
Northern European 0%

Asian:
West Asian: 35.4%
-West Asian (Iraqi/Georgian Jews? Weird population for this...): 18%
-Caucasian (Georgians): 12%
-Southwest Asian (Bedouin/Saudi): 5.4%
SC/S Asian: 2.1% (all in South Central Asian)
Central Asian: 0.6% (all in Turkmen)
East/Southeast Asian: 0.0%

African
East African: 0.6%
West African: 0.0%

Siberian & Amerindian
South Amerindian: 0.1% (0% for everything else)

Seems not that great....

Dibran
12-14-2017, 11:52 PM
full italian from emilia romagna northeast italy
noticeble celtic- gaulic influence :)

European 92.9%
- Southern European 70.4%
Greek-Albanian 54.8%
Sardinian-Sicilian 15.6%
- Northern European 22.5%
Northwest European 15.7%
Scandinavian 6.7%

Asian 7.1%
- West Asian 4.2%
Southwest Asian 2.2%
Caucasian 2%
- Central Asian 2.9%
Tatars 2.9%

Very Interesting. The Greek-Albanian. North-East Italy was Illyrian territory no? perhaps its that? Most Italians are scoring negligible Greek-Albanian or a small slice lol.

Coolguy1
12-14-2017, 11:54 PM
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN57.0%
Greek-Albanian54.9%
Southwest European2.1%
Sardinian-Sicilian0.0%
EASTERN EUROPEAN33.7%
Southern Slavic33.7%
Eastern Slavic0.0%


CENTRAL ASIAN5.8%
Tajikistani5.3%
Turkmens0.5%
Bashkirs0.0%
Tatars0.0%
Uzbek & Uyghur0.0%
Kazak & Kirgiz0.0%
WEST ASIAN3.5%
Southwest Asian3.5%
Caucasian0.0%
West Asian0.0%

Still dont think its very accurate for me. I am using familytree data

Dibran
12-14-2017, 11:54 PM
It seems foolish to have a Sicilian-Sardinian cluster in any case. They are quite different populations from each other genetically. Here is a summary of mine with the revised results (too lazy to take screenshots of it right now):

European: 61.2%
Asian: 38.1%
African: 0.6%
Siberian & Amerindian: 0.1%

European:
Southern European 47.4%
-Sardinian/Sicilian: 30.8%
-Southwest European: 16.6%
-Greek/Albanian: 0%
Eastern European 13.8% (all in Eastern Slavic; this is definitely too high for me)
Northern European 0%

Asian:
West Asian: 35.4%
-West Asian (Iraqi/Georgian Jews? Weird population for this...): 18%
-Caucasian (Georgians): 12%
-Southwest Asian (Bedouin/Saudi): 5.4%
SC/S Asian: 2.1% (all in South Central Asian)
Central Asian: 0.6% (all in Turkmen)
East/Southeast Asian: 0.0%

African
East African: 0.6%
West African: 0.0%

Siberian & Amerindian
South Amerindian: 0.1% (0% for everything else)

Seems not that great....

Kurd said they removed Sardinians entirely. I think it might just be an error in the update, they probably didn't reword the text field. Now it could be just Sicilian, but the word was not amended. Someone would need to ask Kurd when Anthro comes back up. But, I specifically remember him saying Sardinians were removed.

Dibran
12-15-2017, 12:00 AM
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN57.0%
Greek-Albanian54.9%
Southwest European2.1%
Sardinian-Sicilian0.0%
EASTERN EUROPEAN33.7%
Southern Slavic33.7%
Eastern Slavic0.0%


CENTRAL ASIAN5.8%
Tajikistani5.3%
Turkmens0.5%
Bashkirs0.0%
Tatars0.0%
Uzbek & Uyghur0.0%
Kazak & Kirgiz0.0%
WEST ASIAN3.5%
Southwest Asian3.5%
Caucasian0.0%
West Asian0.0%

Still dont think its very accurate for me. I am using familytree data

thats why. he said its not very good outside 23andme files.

MysteriousWays
12-15-2017, 12:00 AM
My results changed a lot by the way....

Southern Slavic became East Slavic, SW European more than doubled, SW Asian decreased by more than 50%

Dibran
12-15-2017, 12:02 AM
My results changed a lot by the way....

Southern Slavic became East Slavic, SW European more than doubled, SW Asian decreased by more than 50%

Makes sense. my fathers south slavic fell off. geting 3-4 east slavic. the rest split between Greek-Albanian and Sicilian,.

kingjohn
12-15-2017, 12:04 AM
Kurd said they removed Sardinians entirely. I think it might just be an error in the update, they probably didn't reword the text field. Now it could be just Sicilian, but the word was not amended. Someone would need to ask Kurd when Anthro comes back up. But, I specifically remember him saying Sardinians were removed.

he removed it {sardinians}like you said
yes he said that in ftdna {my raw data :picard2:}and ancestery data
results are ok .....
but not the best because the highest overlapp is with 23and me file :)

wvwvw
12-15-2017, 12:13 AM
Very Interesting. The Greek-Albanian. North-East Italy was Illyrian territory no? perhaps its that? Most Italians are scoring negligible Greek-Albanian or a small slice lol.

What is more interesting is the Tuscan's South Slavic. I mean I can understand Sorcelow's South Slavic but how did South Slavic ended up in the Tuscan?

Does anyone in your family score South Slavic !? (i.e Bosnian, Montenegrin, Bulgarian, Romanian)

wvwvw
12-15-2017, 12:17 AM
Also it is odd that the Italian from Emilia Romagna scores 15% Sicilian but the Tuscan and me 0%.

Dick
12-15-2017, 12:35 AM
When you people see your results all you have to do is just DEAL WITH IT!

+1

kleenex
12-15-2017, 12:38 AM
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN57.0%
Greek-Albanian54.9%
Southwest European2.1%
Sardinian-Sicilian0.0%
EASTERN EUROPEAN33.7%
Southern Slavic33.7%
Eastern Slavic0.0%


CENTRAL ASIAN5.8%
Tajikistani5.3%
Turkmens0.5%
Bashkirs0.0%
Tatars0.0%
Uzbek & Uyghur0.0%
Kazak & Kirgiz0.0%
WEST ASIAN3.5%
Southwest Asian3.5%
Caucasian0.0%
West Asian0.0%

Still dont think its very accurate for me. I am using familytree data

In your case why the Central Asian and SW Asian but no Caucasus and/or West Asian? Seems a bit off.

Coolguy1
12-15-2017, 12:38 AM
In your case why the Central Asian and SW Asian but no Caucasus and/or West Asian? Seems a bit off.

Yeah, it really is a bit strange

Dibran
12-15-2017, 12:41 AM
What is more interesting is the Tuscan's South Slavic. I mean I can understand Sorcelow's South Slavic but how did South Slavic ended up in the Tuscan?

Does anyone in your family score South Slavic !? (i.e Bosnian, Montenegrin, Bulgarian, Romanian)

Before the update my mom was 50/50 south slavic/greek-Albanian. I was 36 south slavic and my father 33. With the update to the algorithm it completely fell off for me and my mom, and my father only has 3-4 East Slavic now. My only guess is steppe components are being read as "Slavic". At least in the case of Tuscans. I remember reading Italy had a huge mercenary force with Condottieri, mainly made up of north, west, and east euros. Given its proximity to North-East Italy, perhaps some Slavic gene-flow from Croatia, made its way down? Is this common for all Tuscans?

kleenex
12-15-2017, 12:41 AM
Ok I ordered 23 and me. I'm curious to see the difference.

Karol Klačansky
12-15-2017, 01:01 AM
so I score more northern European, than the Slovak-British mixature guy.Keep dreaming magyar, you score 0 baltic. South slavic isnt northern european. Dont be jealous of my indo european heritage. Im also not british, you self hating slav.

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Mortimer
12-15-2017, 01:27 AM
Update now Im Southern Slavic 0 Eastern Slavic and 0 Baltic

EASTERN EUROPEAN 36.4%
Southern Slavic 36.4%
Baltic 0.0%
Eastern Slavic 0.0%
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 23.8%
Southwest European 19.0%
Sardinian-Sicilian 4.8%
Greek-Albanian 0.0%
NORTHERN EUROPEAN 0.0%
Northwest European 0.0%
Scandinavian 0.0%
ASIAN 39.1%
Oceanian 0.6%
AFRICAN 0.0%
SIBERIAN & AMERINDIAN 0.0%

Mortimer
12-15-2017, 01:30 AM
Update now Im Southern Slavic 0 Eastern Slavic and 0 Baltic

EASTERN EUROPEAN 36.4%
Southern Slavic 36.4%
Baltic 0.0%
Eastern Slavic 0.0%
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 23.8%
Southwest European 19.0%
Sardinian-Sicilian 4.8%
Greek-Albanian 0.0%
NORTHERN EUROPEAN 0.0%
Northwest European 0.0%
Scandinavian 0.0%
ASIAN 39.1%
Oceanian 0.6%
AFRICAN 0.0%
SIBERIAN & AMERINDIAN 0.0%

ASIAN 39.1%
SC/S ASIAN 14.8%
Indian 14.8%
South Central Asian 0.0%
WEST ASIAN 13.2%
West Asian 8.1%
Caucasian 5.1%
Southwest Asian 0.0%
CENTRAL ASIAN 10.6%
Tatars 3.8%
Bashkirs 3.6%
Turkmens 3.3%
Uzbek & Uyghur 0.0%
Kazak & Kirgiz 0.0%
Tajikistan i0.0%
EAST-SOUTHEAST ASIAN 0.5%
Southeast Asian 0.5%
East Asian0.0%

kingjohn
12-15-2017, 01:46 AM
Update now Im Southern Slavic 0 Eastern Slavic and 0 Baltic

EASTERN EUROPEAN 36.4%
Southern Slavic 36.4%
Baltic 0.0%
Eastern Slavic 0.0%
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 23.8%
Southwest European 19.0%
Sardinian-Sicilian 4.8%
Greek-Albanian 0.0%
NORTHERN EUROPEAN 0.0%
Northwest European 0.0%
Scandinavian 0.0%
ASIAN 39.1%
Oceanian 0.6%
AFRICAN 0.0%
SIBERIAN & AMERINDIAN 0.0%

you know why ???
i think because of the chnages kurd did to the south slavic cluster
he aded serbs
took out bulgarians

Dick
12-15-2017, 02:05 AM
Hahah. It's alien in average genetics here.

There is "Serbian DNA project" site today, and there are all results form the most of Serbian families. Turkish Y-DNA are very very rare, and asian as well. But "Albanian" "E" is common in Serbia quite.

Wrong. Serbian Dna project is more like an ex-Yugoslavia Dna project. The few rare Turkic/asiatic y-dna in the project are from Bosniaks. There's also Croats, Jews, Germans, vlachs, slovenes etc in the project. E dosn't have to be from Albanians or Balkanians in general. E-v13 is a very common haplogroup across Europe, more so than I1. Even Loki the owner of this forum , who is of Dutch background, is E-v13. Meanwhile, I scored 100% European and zero Greek-Albanian while Bosniensis scored 9.2% Asian and 27% Greek-Albanian so who mixed with Turks and Albanians?

Skjaldemjøden
12-15-2017, 02:41 AM
Wrong. Serbian Dna project is more like an ex-Yugoslavia Dna project. The few rare Turkic/asiatic y-dna in the project are from Bosniaks. There's also Croats, Jews, Germans, vlachs, slovenes etc in the project. E dosn't have to be from Albanians or Balkanians in general. E-v13 is a very common haplogroup across Europe, more so than I1. Even Loki the owner of this forum , who is of Dutch background, is E-v13. Meanwhile, I scored 100% European and zero Greek-Albanian while Bosniensis scored 9.2% Asian and 27% Greek-Albanian so who mixed with Turks and Albanians?

https://media.giphy.com/media/R9b4pJQhFBcFq/giphy.gif

kingjohn
12-15-2017, 02:57 AM
my father :)

EUROPEAN 65.1%
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 65.1%
Greek-Albanian 42.7% fucking high :)
Sardinian-Sicilian 19.2%
Southwest European 3.2%
EASTERN EUROPEAN 0.0%
Eastern Slavic0.0%
Southern Slavic0.0%
Baltic0.0%
NORTHERN EUROPEAN0.0%
Northwest European0.0%
Scandinavian0.0
ASIAN 34.0%
WEST ASIAN 26.9%
West Asian 12.5%
southwest asian 8.5%
Caucasian 5.8%
SC/S ASIAN 5.8%
South Central Asian 5.8% i got those allells from him :)
Indian 0.0%
CENTRAL ASIAN 1.3%
Turkmens 1.3%
SIBERIAN & AMERINDIAN 0.5%
POLAR & SIBERIAN 0.5%
Polar 0.5%
Siberian 0.0%
NATIVE AMERICAN0.0%
South Amerindian0.0%
Central Amerindian0.0%
North Amerindian0.0%
AFRICAN 0.4%

Erronkari
12-15-2017, 02:59 AM
My Update:

EUROPEAN 89.8%
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 72.1%
Southwest European 72.1%
Basque, Spanish

NORTHERN EUROPEAN 12.1%
Northwest European 12.1%
Orcadian, Scott, French, English

EASTERN EUROPEAN 5.6%
Southern Slavic 5.6%
Bosnian, Montenegrin, Bulgarian, Romanian

ASIAN 6.7%
WEST ASIAN 5.6%
Caucasian 5.6%
Georgians

EAST-SOUTHEAST ASIAN 0.8%
Southeast Asian 0.8%
Burmese, Cambodian, Thai

CENTRAL ASIAN 0.3%
Turkmens 0.3%
Turkmens

NATIVE AMERICAN 3.5%
Central Amerindian 2.9%
Mayans, Mixe
South Amerindian 0.6%
Karitiana, Surui, & Quechua

War Chef
12-15-2017, 03:32 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/R9b4pJQhFBcFq/giphy.gif


It's our noble Balkan-Celtic bloodline on the line, it is very serious business Jew-boy.

Dick
12-15-2017, 04:01 AM
Anyways....Who else scored 100% European on this?

oszkar07
12-15-2017, 05:32 AM
https://i.imgur.com/qfeWGuU.jpg





https://i.imgur.com/Ld94pvh.jpg


I find this to be a very limited calculator.
Also dont see how taking west slavic out fixed anything.
Also cant see how I could be 34.2% pure Baltic ???
and cant see how I could be 36.1% south west euro ... in that case I should be a little over one 3rd Spanish and one 3rd Lithuanian, and near one 3rd NW European ...thinking about it ...this is a pretty crappy calculator.
At least it was cheap...not sure why some folks felt Kurd know what he is doing, one of the weirdest commercial calc results ive seen.
Maybe mine is crap because I tested with FTDNA... k25 results way out of whack comparing with my overall Eurogenes results.

oszkar07
12-15-2017, 06:14 AM
These are fun to do but quite hard to take seriously. My ancestry(complete to 3gt) is as far as I know 100% British. Yet I get 20% Scandinavian and 10% East Slavic with this calculator. Given the history of the British isles some Scandinavian is within the realm of possibility albeit much less than 20%. The East Slavic however makes no sense.

This is a retarded calculator , only good thing I can say is at least was bit cheap but I have seen much better free calculators.

Also if you dont generally score reasonable Slav/East Euro scores on Eurogenes and if you dont usually cluster a bit close with Slav's in Eurogenes Oracles then its quite suprising you would get 10% East Slav here.

Insuperable
12-15-2017, 06:40 AM
https://s7.postimg.org/q4klv0btn/Screenshot_20171215-083101.png

Bosniensis
12-15-2017, 06:55 AM
Wrong. Serbian Dna project is more like an ex-Yugoslavia Dna project. The few rare Turkic/asiatic y-dna in the project are from Bosniaks. There's also Croats, Jews, Germans, vlachs, slovenes etc in the project. E dosn't have to be from Albanians or Balkanians in general. E-v13 is a very common haplogroup across Europe, more so than I1. Even Loki the owner of this forum , who is of Dutch background, is E-v13. Meanwhile, I scored 100% European and zero Greek-Albanian while Bosniensis scored 9.2% Asian and 27% Greek-Albanian so who mixed with Turks and Albanians?

This is the first calculator (of many) that gave me 10% West Asian, so it's probably Anatolian or Incorrect, Turkish admixture is not that one from West Asia but from their Ancestral homeplace from where they came to Anatolia.

Also there is nothing wrong with "mixing" with Albanians...

I doubt it's Albanian, I believe it's Greek cause 10 (I think) members (Cousins included) of my family are Orthodoxes so they probably mixed with Greeks, and I think that my family were a late converts in 17/18 century.

I don't know if Albanians were Orthodoxes, if they were.. then I might be related to Albanians as much as Greeks.

Stears
12-15-2017, 08:55 AM
Keep dreaming magyar, you score 0 baltic. South slavic isnt northern european. Dont be jealous of my indo european heritage. Im also not british, you self hating slav.

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Your indo-gypsy heritage ?

I score double higher northwestern European than you , and you are 1/4 British. hahaha :))))

It is because, your Slovak genes are much more eastern than the Hungarian. Deal with it.

Karol Klačansky
12-15-2017, 09:13 AM
Your indo-gypsy heritage ?

I score double higher northwestern European than you , and you are 1/4 British. hahaha :))))

It is because, your Slovak genes are much more eastern than the Hungarian. Deal with it.Who has more asian genes you mongol?

wvwvw
12-15-2017, 09:49 AM
Who has more asian genes you mongol?

You do. You have more eastern genes than him.

Stears
12-15-2017, 09:54 AM
Who has more asian genes you mongol?

I don't score any east asian.

Karol Klačansky
12-15-2017, 09:54 AM
You do. You have more eastern genes than him.Eastern euro dimwit, completely opposite of Asian. Stearsolina scores 9 percent central asian, and im more eastern?

kingjohn
12-15-2017, 09:55 AM
It's our noble Balkan-Celtic bloodline on the line, it is very serious business Jew-boy.

what his fucking religion have anything to do with it ....... :confused:

Stears
12-15-2017, 09:58 AM
I score Tatar, because the Tatars are significantly Finno-Ugric influenced:

The study of Suslova et al found indications of two non-Kipchak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kipchaks) sources of admixture, Finno-Ugric and Bulgar:
Together with Tatars, Russians have high frequencies of allele families and haplotypes characteristic of Finno-Ugric populations. This presupposes a Finno-Ugric impact on Russian and Tatar ethnogenesis.... Some aspects of HLA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_leukocyte_antigen) in Tatars appeared close to Chuvashes and Bulgarians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarians), thus supporting the view that Tatars may be descendents of ancient Bulgars (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgars).[35] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatars#cite_note-35)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatars#Genetics

Zoro
12-15-2017, 10:03 AM
https://i.imgur.com/qfeWGuU.jpg





https://i.imgur.com/Ld94pvh.jpg


I find this to be a very limited calculator.
Also dont see how taking west slavic out fixed anything.
Also cant see how I could be 34.2% pure Baltic ???
and cant see how I could be 36.1% south west euro ... in that case I should be a little over one 3rd Spanish and one 3rd Lithuanian, and near one 3rd NW European ...thinking about it ...this is a pretty crappy calculator.
At least it was cheap...not sure why some folks felt Kurd know what he is doing, one of the weirdest commercial calc results ive seen.
Maybe mine is crap because I tested with FTDNA... k25 results way out of whack comparing with my overall Eurogenes results.

Because they got better results with this than the other calculators. Did you see that guy Mortimor results on the previous page. He is 37.5 % serbian and he got 36.5% S Slavic. Thats damn good :thumb001:. Also the kurd guy is very skilled he is the only one from the calculator guys who knows how to genotype dna sequences (except Vadim)

Wtf FTDNA says you are 27% E Euro and 70% W & C euro and k29 gives you 34% lithuanian and 36% SW euro and 26% french so thats 62% W euro so what is the problem. Also Gedmatch calculators are crap I wouldn’t take them too seriously

Karol Klačansky
12-15-2017, 10:03 AM
I score Tatar, because the Tatars are significantly Finno-Ugric influenced:

The study of Suslova et al found indications of two non-Kipchak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kipchaks) sources of admixture, Finno-Ugric and Bulgar:
Together with Tatars, Russians have high frequencies of allele families and haplotypes characteristic of Finno-Ugric populations. This presupposes a Finno-Ugric impact on Russian and Tatar ethnogenesis.... Some aspects of HLA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_leukocyte_antigen) in Tatars appeared close to Chuvashes and Bulgarians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarians), thus supporting the view that Tatars may be descendents of ancient Bulgars (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgars).[35] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatars#cite_note-35)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatars#Genetics

Tatars were the golden horde, you mongol.
You arent full european and not a native to europe. Deal with it.

Stears
12-15-2017, 10:07 AM
Eastern euro dimwit, completely opposite of Asian. Stearsolina scores 9 percent central asian, and im more eastern?

she don't score 9% percent central asian, but 3%. yes, she also much more eastern european than me. I've always said, Hungarians were the most western influenced group, in the entire ex-commie area.
The Slovaks mix with the Rusyn people, and that is why you are so eastern.

Stears
12-15-2017, 10:09 AM
Tatars were the golden horde, you mongol.
You arent full european and not a native to europe. Deal with it.

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I don't have Tatar ancestry you monkey. I've share ancient gene similarity with them, because they are Finno-Ugric admixture.
At least my haplogroup is native to Europe, unlike your Indo-Gypsy marker!

Deal with it little Slovak.

Karol Klačansky
12-15-2017, 10:14 AM
she don't score 9% percent central asian, but 3%. yes, she also much more eastern european than me. I've always said, Hungarians were the most western influenced group, in the entire ex-commie area.
The Slovaks mix with the Rusyn people, and that is why you are so eastern.

I was reffering to you stearsolina. You have tatar genes aka youre an official member of the golden horde which makes you über eastern. Slovaks mixed with rusyn? thats like saying bavarians are mixed with western austrians, whats your point? Haplgroup R1a is native to europe, it originated in Ukraine aka Europe. Im more native european than you, deal with it.

oszkar07
12-15-2017, 10:16 AM
Because they got better results with this than the other calculators. Did you see that guy Mortimor results on the previous page. He is 37.5 % serbian and he got 36.5% S Slavic. Thats damn good :thumb001:. Also the kurd guy is very skilled he is the only one from the calculator guys who knows how to genotype dna sequences (except Vadim)

Wtf FTDNA says you are 27% E Euro and 70% W & C euro and k29 gives you 34% lithuanian and 36% SW euro so what is the problem. Also Gedmatch calculators are crap I wouldn’t take them too seriously

I think this calculator lacks German component and possibly result of that is people who would otherwise get reasonable Germanic component end up with the calculator overcompensating in other components.

What is the problem you said ?

Dont you think there is a difference between SW Euro and NW/Central Euro.
If I was really in reality 36% SW Euro then I would most likely score reasonably high West Med scores , I dont have overly significant west med scores.
I dont generally cluster too closely to Spanish/Basque or even typically celtic pop's eg Irish/Welsh.
So problem here is accuracy.
Possibly the BALTIC is a North Slavic component , I get 34% North Slav on Dna Land and 34% North Slavic on My Heritage but the 36% SW Euro here seems strange...and its not same as NW Euro.

Stears
12-15-2017, 10:25 AM
I was reffering to you stearsolina. You have tatar genes aka youre an official member of the gold horde which makes you über eastern. Slovaks mixed with rusyn? thats like saying a bavarians are mixed with western austrians, whats your point? Haplgroup R1a is native to europe, it originated in Ukraine aka Europe. Im more native european than you, deal with it.

Bullshit.

Zoro
12-15-2017, 10:28 AM
I think this calculator lacks German component and possibly result of that is people who would otherwise get reasonable Germanic component end up with the calculator overcompensating in other components.

What is the problem you said ?

Dont you think there is a difference between SW Euro and NW/Central Euro.
If I was really in reality 36% SW Euro then I would most likely score reasonably high West Med scores , I dont have overly significant west med scores.
I dont generally cluster too closely to Spanish/Basque or even typically celtic pop's eg Irish/Welsh.
So problem here is accuracy.
Possibly the BALTIC is a North Slavic component , I get 34% North Slav on Dna Land and 34% North Slavic on My Heritage but the 36% SW Euro here seems strange...and its not same as NW Euro.

If your getting 34% N Slavic on Dna land and My heritage and your getting 34% Lithuanian with K29 then I don’t see any problem

If your getting 70% W and C euro in FTDNA and in k29 you get 36% SW euro + 26% french= 62% W euro then I don’t see the big deal

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
12-15-2017, 10:43 AM
https://s8.postimg.org/7iqmicyet/k29.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/dwfplm3ap/)

https://s8.postimg.org/63p1tncr9/k292.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/y3t5dxg7l/)

https://s8.postimg.org/7vi0ojoed/k293.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/3z4osk3ep/)

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
12-15-2017, 10:52 AM
Uzbek-Uyghur is a first for me. :wacko:
I get 0.1% Sardinian on 23andme, here it seems that I am at least 10%.
26% Greek-Albanian is odd too as I did not score Balkan ancestry on 23andme.

Interesting results nevertheless. I seem to get always something different on every calculator I try.

oszkar07
12-15-2017, 10:55 AM
If your getting 34% N Slavic on Dna land and My heritage and your getting 34% Lithuanian with K29 then I don’t see any problem

If your getting 70% W and C euro in FTDNA and in k29 you get 36% SW euro + 26% french= 62% W euro then I don’t see the big deal

The SW Euro sample = Spanish/Basque .... how can I be one third Spanish .

I think Spanish people are cool , but I doubt Im really that much west med... otherwise the overall result is pretty sexy admixture lol.

Thracian
12-15-2017, 11:20 AM
Worse than before.

kleenex
12-15-2017, 11:26 AM
Worse than before.

Yes I agree the original made a bit more sense to me.

Ylla
12-15-2017, 11:52 AM
...

show us :P

Dick
12-15-2017, 12:19 PM
This is the first calculator (of many) that gave me 10% West Asian, so it's probably Anatolian or Incorrect, Turkish admixture is not that one from West Asia but from their Ancestral homeplace from where they came to Anatolia.

Also there is nothing wrong with "mixing" with Albanians...

I doubt it's Albanian, I believe it's Greek

What logic, i guess that''s why albanians are scoring 100% of it too.

firemonkey
12-15-2017, 12:24 PM
This is a retarded calculator , only good thing I can say is at least was bit cheap but I have seen much better free calculators.

Also if you dont generally score reasonable Slav/East Euro scores on Eurogenes and if you dont usually cluster a bit close with Slav's in Eurogenes Oracles then its quite suprising you would get 10% East Slav here.

puntDAL K15: single pop sharing 18 Belarusian 15.29

4 pop approx:

2 Belarusian + Scottish + South_German + French @ 1.787727
3 Belarusian + Norwegian + French + French @ 1.805651
4 Belarusian + Scottish + Utahn_White + French @ 1.813780
7 Belarusian + English + Utahn_White + French @ 1.833975
9 Belarusian + Scottish + French + French @ 1.846710
10 Belarusian + English + South_German + French @ 1.869583
12 Belarusian + Swedish + French + French @ 1.874063
13 Belarusian + Belarusian + Serbian + Basque @ 1.874586
18 Belarusian + North_German + French + French @ 1.905307


Eurasia k9

Single pop: 10 Belarusian 9.9

4 pop approx:

1 Belarusian + Greek + RISE_baBb + Ukrainian @ 1.454885
5 Belarusian + Greek + Icelandic + RISE_baBb @ 1.601557
8 Belarusian + Greek + Norwegian + RISE_baBb @ 1.628099
10 Belarusian + Bulgarian + Hungarian + RISE_baBb @ 1.663144
11 Belarusian + Belarusian + Greek + RISE_baBb @ 1.66531
17 Belarusian + RISE_baBb + Tuscan + Ukrainian @ 1.726430

Dodecad 7b:

4 pop approx:

3 Belorussian + Extremadura + Orcadian + Polish @ 0.000000
4 Belorussian + Galicia + Orcadian + Polish @ 0.000000
8 Belorussian + British_Isles + Extremadura + Polish @ 0.251705
17 Argyll + Belorussian + Extremadura + Polish @ 0.293744
18 Belorussian + Extremadura + Irish + Polish @ 0.293744
19 Argyll + Belorussian + Galicia + Polish @ 0.293894
20 Argyll + Belorussian + Polish + Portuguese @ 0.298300


Dodecad world 9 single pop: 17 Belorussian (Behar) 8.01


4 pop approx:

2 Belorussian + Argyll + Argyll + Cataluna @ 1.002534
6 German + Lithuanian + Belorussian + Murcia @ 1.022274
9 French + CEU30 + CEU30 + Belorussian @ 1.026743
13 Polish + Orcadian + Belorussian + Spaniards @ 1.034442
18 German + French + CEU30 + Belorussian @ 1.046510

Insuperable
12-15-2017, 12:38 PM
show us :P

https://media.giphy.com/media/8VLgtJqaxIlhu/giphy.gif

kingjohn
12-15-2017, 01:55 PM
Uzbek-Uyghur is a first for me. :wacko:
I get 0.1% Sardinian on 23andme, here it seems that I am at least 10%.
26% Greek-Albanian is odd too as I did not score Balkan ancestry on 23andme.

Interesting results nevertheless. I seem to get always something different on every calculator I try.

it is written sardianian -sicilian but infact it is only sicilian refernce kurd took out the sardinian refernce from this group
your results looks damn logic
including the big northwest european you score :)
regards
adam

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
12-15-2017, 02:07 PM
it is written sardianian -sicilian but infact it is only sicilian refernce kurd took out the sardinian refernce from this group
your results looks damn logic
including the big northwest european you score :)
regards
adam

If by Sardinian-Sicilian ancestry they mean Italic ancestry then it is coherent with my 23andme scores, where I do get around 10% Italian ancestry as well (and only 0.1% Sardinian). There seems to be no Italian reference on geneplaza besides Sardinian-Sicilian so I am inclined to assume that it must be it.

The Northwest European ancestry is the most coherent with my 23andme results, I got more or less the same.

26% Greek-Albanian was really unexpected and I don't get where is it coming from. My East-Med and West Asian scores on most GedMatch calculators are too low in comparison with Greek-Albanians to give me this much I guess (I scored 0% Balkan ancestry on 23andme).

2% of Uzbek-Uyghur is what is intriguing me right now the most though, I don't see any logic behind it as Iberians are probably from all the Europeans the ones who present least chances of scoring anything related with Central Asia. Historically is not making that much sense too. If it was East-Asian who knows, Portugueses did have colonies and settlements in China and Japan for five centuries in some cases but Uzbekistan seems too far-fetched.

kingjohn
12-15-2017, 06:04 PM
I was reffering to you stearsolina. You have tatar genes aka youre an official member of the golden horde which makes you über eastern. Slovaks mixed with rusyn? thats like saying bavarians are mixed with western austrians, whats your point? Haplgroup R1a is native to europe, it originated in Ukraine aka Europe. Im more native european than you, deal with it.

i wish i would have scored tatar :cool:
it is so cool.....

oszkar07
12-15-2017, 07:05 PM
puntDAL K15: single pop sharing 18 Belarusian 15.29

4 pop approx:

2 Belarusian + Scottish + South_German + French @ 1.787727
3 Belarusian + Norwegian + French + French @ 1.805651
4 Belarusian + Scottish + Utahn_White + French @ 1.813780
7 Belarusian + English + Utahn_White + French @ 1.833975
9 Belarusian + Scottish + French + French @ 1.846710
10 Belarusian + English + South_German + French @ 1.869583
12 Belarusian + Swedish + French + French @ 1.874063
13 Belarusian + Belarusian + Serbian + Basque @ 1.874586
18 Belarusian + North_German + French + French @ 1.905307


Eurasia k9

Single pop: 10 Belarusian 9.9

4 pop approx:

1 Belarusian + Greek + RISE_baBb + Ukrainian @ 1.454885
5 Belarusian + Greek + Icelandic + RISE_baBb @ 1.601557
8 Belarusian + Greek + Norwegian + RISE_baBb @ 1.628099
10 Belarusian + Bulgarian + Hungarian + RISE_baBb @ 1.663144
11 Belarusian + Belarusian + Greek + RISE_baBb @ 1.66531
17 Belarusian + RISE_baBb + Tuscan + Ukrainian @ 1.726430

Dodecad 7b:

4 pop approx:

3 Belorussian + Extremadura + Orcadian + Polish @ 0.000000
4 Belorussian + Galicia + Orcadian + Polish @ 0.000000
8 Belorussian + British_Isles + Extremadura + Polish @ 0.251705
17 Argyll + Belorussian + Extremadura + Polish @ 0.293744
18 Belorussian + Extremadura + Irish + Polish @ 0.293744
19 Argyll + Belorussian + Galicia + Polish @ 0.293894
20 Argyll + Belorussian + Polish + Portuguese @ 0.298300


Dodecad world 9 single pop: 17 Belorussian (Behar) 8.01


4 pop approx:

2 Belorussian + Argyll + Argyll + Cataluna @ 1.002534
6 German + Lithuanian + Belorussian + Murcia @ 1.022274
9 French + CEU30 + CEU30 + Belorussian @ 1.026743
13 Polish + Orcadian + Belorussian + Spaniards @ 1.034442
18 German + French + CEU30 + Belorussian @ 1.046510

Fair enough.
Im no expert and I really dont claim to know exactly how this works , but wouldnt East Euro scores across gedmatch and Eurogenes 36 indicate likelihood of Slavicness also.
Do u get reasonable east euro scores ?

Wrong
12-15-2017, 07:53 PM
Wrong. Serbian Dna project is more like an ex-Yugoslavia Dna project. The few rare Turkic/asiatic y-dna in the project are from Bosniaks. There's also Croats, Jews, Germans, vlachs, slovenes etc in the project. E dosn't have to be from Albanians or Balkanians in general. E-v13 is a very common haplogroup across Europe, more so than I1. Even Loki the owner of this forum , who is of Dutch background, is E-v13. Meanwhile, I scored 100% European and zero Greek-Albanian while Bosniensis scored 9.2% Asian and 27% Greek-Albanian so who mixed with Turks and Albanians?
That's clearly Turko-Tatar admixture.

Karol Klačansky
12-15-2017, 08:18 PM
i wish i would have scored tatar :cool:
it is so cool.....Tatars went through my dads village 400 years ago, killed the priest and alter servers for no reason and burned a bunch of crap. Im happy I have no genes from those monkeys.

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kingjohn
12-15-2017, 08:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgxoQkj7jnM

firemonkey
12-15-2017, 10:33 PM
Fair enough.
Im no expert and I really dont claim to know exactly how this works , but wouldnt East Euro scores across gedmatch and Eurogenes 36 indicate likelihood of Slavicness also.
Do u get reasonable east euro scores ?


You are undoubtedly more of an expert than me. I posted those results just to show that the 'East Slavic' populations show up in a few calculators as a matter of being factual. I am not suggesting it necessarily means anything.

The Eurogenes calculators k13,k15 and EU show me as overwhelmingly British. With K36 - Eastern_Euro 3.32%. With the recent K45- 9.07% East-Euro.

k15 gives me 7.77 Eastern Euro. According to the spreadsheet the English average is SouthEast 8.36 SouthWest 8.02. EU test gives me 10.70 (average: English 10.86)

oszkar07
12-16-2017, 12:27 AM
You are undoubtedly more of an expert than me. I posted those results just to show that the 'East Slavic' populations show up in a few calculators as a matter of being factual. I am not suggesting it necessarily means anything.

The Eurogenes calculators k13,k15 and EU show me as overwhelmingly British. With K36 - Eastern_Euro 3.32%. With the recent K45- 9.07% East-Euro.

k15 gives me 7.77 Eastern Euro. According to the spreadsheet the English average is SouthEast 8.36 SouthWest 8.02. EU test gives me 10.70 (average: English 10.86)

I think the K25 should have a Germanic sample , otherwise the test seems a bit experimental for certain populations .

Dick
12-16-2017, 12:31 AM
I think the K25 should have a Germanic sample , otherwise the test seems a bit experimental for certain populations .

The "Scandinavian" is Germanic. I assume "East euro" comes up if you have higher than average steppe if you're a western European i guess.

oszkar07
12-16-2017, 12:36 AM
The "Scandinavian" is Germanic. I assume "East euro" comes up if you have higher than average steppe if you're a western European i guess.

You could be right , and Brit pop's could be partly also, but I wonder if people would cluster differently to eg Central German.
Im not clustering with the Scandinavian on k29 at all, but usually on Gedmatch I get quite bit of German.

Dick
12-16-2017, 12:58 AM
You could be right , and Brit pop's could be partly also, but I wonder if people would cluster differently to eg Central German.
Im not clustering with the Scandinavian on k29 at all, but usually on Gedmatch I get quite bit of German.

Is this the same guy that makes the Gedrosia calcs?

jingorex
12-16-2017, 01:09 AM
Is this the same guy that makes the Gedrosia calcs?

https://78.media.tumblr.com/94cccff3c616480de912748c68e3c260/tumblr_ncfj5l0Lu41tgm1qqo1_500.jpg

kingjohn
12-16-2017, 05:59 AM
full turkish person
mother aydin/ father konya area
cool results :thumb001:
european 37.8%
southern european 25.8%
southwest european 13%
sardinian -sicilian 12.8%
eastern european 11.9%
southern slavic 11.9%
asian 59.6%
west asian 38.3%
west asian 27% nice :)
caucasian 10.%
southwest asia 0.8% fucking low :)
central asian 21.4%
tajikistani 11.2%
bashkirs 6.7%
kazak kirgiz 3.5%
siberian amerrinidian 2.6%
polar and siberian 2.5%
siberian 2.5%
native american 0.1%
south amerinidian 0.1%

firemonkey
12-16-2017, 10:05 AM
The "Scandinavian" is Germanic. I assume "East euro" comes up if you have higher than average steppe if you're a western European i guess.

MDLP 16 steppe 22.66 (English averages= 22.83,24.18,23.72)

kingjohn
12-16-2017, 04:12 PM
someone emailed dilawer [in another forum}about the Scandanavian NW European issue. This is what he said:


The Scandanavian cluster is a very weak one as it is represented by only a handful of individuals from public data ( still looking for a good source of samples). This component was very reluctantly included and users are cautioned that there may be considerable overlap between the NW European and Scandanavian clusters as the genetic distance between the two is very low, and many NW Europeans are heavily Scandanavian admixed and visa versa.
A better cluster to have been included in the K29 would have been based on Finns. Here again I did not have sufficient samples and am still searching for a good source of Finn samples.

Therefore Finns will be predominately parsed out as Baltic with some Scandinavian or Northwest European and a little Siberian as shown by the results of these 3 Finnish public samples

Also users are reminded that the most accurate results will be obtained with 23andMe V3 V4 because other data will have less overlap with the markers used in the calculator. normally this would not be a big issue however in this case because many of the European clusters are genetically very proximate to each other, more markers are needed to distinguish neighboring clusters.
Finally users are reminded not to use Gedmatch calculators to gauge the accuracy of this test, as those are inherently much less accurate, and to keep an open mind with regards to paper trails as they don’t go back far enough.


POP Finnish Finnish Finnish
ID HG00171 HG00173 HG00174
Baloch-Brahui 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Greek-Albanian 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Polar 0.00% 0.00% 2.02%
Oceanian 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Southwest Asian 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Eastern Slavic 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Southern Slavic 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Southeast Asian 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Northwest European 0.00% 26.23% 23.25%
West African 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Baltic 87.25% 65.23% 53.38%
Caucasus 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Indian 0.00% 0.00% 1.63%
East African 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
East Asian 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
West Asian 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
South Amerindian 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Kazak- 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Siberian 7.87% 6.88% 2.88%
Tatars 0.00% 0.70% 0.00%
Central Amerindian 0.05% 0.39% 0.00%
Scandanavian 3.61% 0.00% 16.66%
North Amerindian 0.00% 0.56% 0.00%
Bashkir 1.19% 0.00% 0.00%
Sicilian 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Southwest European 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Tajikistani 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Turkmen 0.00% 0.00% 0.16%
Uzbek-Uyghur 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%

kingjohn
12-16-2017, 06:16 PM
Originally Posted by Kurd View Post
Please note:

1- Sardinians have been removed. GenePlaza forgot to update the name.

2- Parsis have also been removed. GenePlaza forgot to update name.

3- Many Europeans are expected to score some northern Turkic ( C Asian)


Also, if a user wants consideration given to their question, vagueness is is not acceptable. It is best to post screen shots so that I can have a better idea of what is going on.

Similarly, vague criticism of anything without details (preferably a screen shot) will be considered as "unfounded"

Thanks

Voskos
12-16-2017, 06:29 PM
24.2%Albanian-Greek(Albania,Greece,Kosovo)
24.9%Sicilian
22.7% Iberian
3.5%Bashkir ( lmao)
10.6%Caucasus(Georgian)
5.8%West Asia(Mesopotamian Jew)
8.3%Southwest Asia(Bedouin)

Bosniensis
12-16-2017, 06:33 PM
24.2%Albanian-Greek(Albania,Greece,Kosovo)
24.9%Sicilian
22.7% Iberian
3.5%Bashkir ( lmao)
10.6%Caucasus(Georgian)
5.8%West Asia(Mesopotamian Jew)
8.3%Southwest Asia(Bedouin)

Yeah don't be surprised, even I have scored some West Asia... funny thing.

Voskos
12-16-2017, 06:58 PM
Yeah don't be surprised, even I have scored some West Asia... funny thing.

not surprised except for Bashkir. some sort of Uralic shit.