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Ion Basescul
12-16-2017, 11:26 PM
My results:
https://i.imgur.com/ALrxAbv.png
Updated to K29
https://i.imgur.com/e0ddMnk.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htdxK2FtYII
Ion Basescul
12-16-2017, 11:47 PM
the Tatars are not Central Asians. They live in Europe.
Whatever you say, dear, because that screenshot is saved forever in my archives.
Bosniensis
12-16-2017, 11:58 PM
Whatever you say, dear, because that screenshot is saved forever in my archives.
We have somewhat similar results where I have some Celtic influence instead South Slavic.
You can see my results in my signature.
Cheers.
Ion Basescul
12-17-2017, 12:05 AM
I have some Celtic influence instead South Slavic..
This calculator is meant to be used only with 23andme v3 and v4. With anything else you can even expect to see butterflies in your results.
Bosniensis
12-17-2017, 12:07 AM
This calculator is meant to be used only with 23andme v3 and v4. With anything else you can even expect to see butterflies in your results.
23andme v5 is my source.
I've been said it's "ok".
or it isnt?
Ion Basescul
12-17-2017, 12:14 AM
23andme v5 is my source.
I've been said it's "ok".
or it isnt?
Well, hear from the mouth of the author:
Users are reminded that the most accurate results will be obtained with 23andMe V3 V4 because other data will have less overlap with the markers used in the calculator. Normally this would not be a big issue however in this case because many of the European clusters are genetically very proximate to each other, more markers are needed to distinguish neighboring clusters.
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Bosniensis
12-17-2017, 12:19 AM
Well, hear from the mouth of the author:
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Well I do score Romanian, Bulgarian in ALL calculators.
We do have some people with Celtic ancestry (Serbia Šumadija, Eastern Bosnia) but I think in reality I am closer to Bulgarians and Romanians
Gangrel
12-17-2017, 12:22 AM
24.2%Albanian-Greek(Albania,Greece,Kosovo)
24.9%Sicilian
22.7% Iberian
3.5%Bashkir ( lmao)
10.6%Caucasus(Georgian)
5.8%West Asia(Mesopotamian Jew)
8.3%Southwest Asia(Bedouin)
u r tengri now
kingjohn
12-17-2017, 07:35 AM
Updated to K29
https://i.imgur.com/e0ddMnk.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htdxK2FtYII
so you also score 5% west asia 1 {iraqi georgian jews}
like rn97 who score 6.8% of it
it looks like it is a romanian -dacian thing :wink
Peterski
12-17-2017, 07:41 AM
how did South Slavic ended up in the Tuscan?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narentines
http://slavicchronicles.com/history/saqaliba-slavs-in-the-arab-world-part-2-slavs-of-muslim-iberia-and-slavic-pirates/
http://slavicchronicles.com/category/history/slavs-in-arab-world/
SvartVarg
12-17-2017, 10:14 AM
Good thing they charge peanuts compared to the major genetic ethnicity tests because Geneplaza likely wouldn't last 6 months if they asked any serious fees.
The original version was nearly 50/50% NW European / W. Slavic. Now the k29 version is 100% NW European which isn't just inaccurate it's pathetic compared to the other summaries given by Geneplaza. It can't seem to differentiate German as a whole. Even the idea of "Scandinavian" as Germanic doesn't hold - my original Ancestry upload 54% NW, 26% Scandinavian, etc. which was more accurate but now it's a rather uninformative/worthless 95.4% NW European, 4% Baltic.
Ion Basescul
12-17-2017, 11:30 AM
so you also score 5% west asia 1 {iraqi georgian jews}
like rn97 who score 6.8% of it
it looks like it is a romanian -dacian thing :wink
A lot of people from the Balkans get some West Asian with this calculator. Some might even see bits of Southwest Asian. As Kurd explained, this indicates that the user has some excess EEF that didn't fit into the reference population.
Likewise, this is how Davidski explained my extra East Asian, as an excess of ANE.
So, who knows, these results may derive from multiple factors.
Percivalle
12-17-2017, 11:45 AM
full italian from emilia romagna northeast italy
noticeble celtic- gaulic influence :)
European 92.9%
- Southern European 70.4%
Greek-Albanian 54.8%
Sardinian-Sicilian 15.6%
- Northern European 22.5%
Northwest European 15.7%
Scandinavian 6.7%
Asian 7.1%
- West Asian 4.2%
Southwest Asian 2.2%
Caucasian 2%
- Central Asian 2.9%
Tatars 2.9%
Emilia-Romagna is not really northeast. Emilia is north-westen except Ferrara but more south than Piedmont and Lombardy and Romagna is in the Adriatic side. And that guy is half from Romagna.
https://www.eupedia.com/images/design/Italy_regional_DNA_project.png
Percivalle
12-17-2017, 11:51 AM
Also it is odd that the Italian from Emilia Romagna scores 15% Sicilian but the Tuscan and me 0%.
Because the guy from Emilia-Romagna is more eastern that the guy from Tuscany. The guy from Emilia Romagna is half Romagnol.
Before the update my mom was 50/50 south slavic/greek-Albanian. I was 36 south slavic and my father 33. With the update to the algorithm it completely fell off for me and my mom, and my father only has 3-4 East Slavic now. My only guess is steppe components are being read as "Slavic". At least in the case of Tuscans. I remember reading Italy had a huge mercenary force with Condottieri, mainly made up of north, west, and east euros. Given its proximity to North-East Italy, perhaps some Slavic gene-flow from Croatia, made its way down? Is this common for all Tuscans?
Nope, it has nothing to do with recent Slavic ancestry in Tuscany.
kingjohn
12-17-2017, 12:12 PM
Emilia-Romagna is not really northeast. Emilia is north-westen except Ferrara but more south than Piedmont and Lombardy and Romagna is in the Adriatic side. And that guy is half from Romagna.
https://www.eupedia.com/images/design/Italy_regional_DNA_project.png
what is the other half ?
he said in eupedia the other half from emilia .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emilia-Romagna
any way it fucking north and the sicilian thing is not expected .......
Percivalle
12-17-2017, 12:18 PM
what is the other half ?
he said in eupedia the other half from emilia .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emilia-Romagna
any way it fucking north and the sicilian thing is not expected .......
But is it a Sicilian or a Sardinian/Sicilian thing? It's different.
Yes, the other half I think is Emilian and Emilians are not so different from Tuscans, the only difference is that they can be more eastern-shifted, especially if they are half Romagnol who more similar to people from Marche. On the other hand, many Tuscans are more western-shifted.
kingjohn
12-17-2017, 12:25 PM
But is it a Sicilian or a Sardinian/Sicilian thing? It's different.
Yes, the other half I think is Emilian and Emilians are not so different from Tuscans, the only difference is that they can be more eastern-shifted, especially if they are half Romagnol who more similar to people from Marche. On the other hand, many Tuscans are more western-shifted.
it was composed of sardinian + sicilian refernce but kurd took the sardianian refernce out
so it is just a sicilian
Originally Posted by Kurd View Post
Please note:
1- Sardinians have been removed. GenePlaza forgot to update the name.
2- Parsis have also been removed. GenePlaza forgot to update name.
3- Many Europeans are expected to score some northern Turkic ( C Asian)
Also, if a user wants consideration given to their question, vagueness is is not acceptable. It is best to post screen shots so that I can have a better idea of what is going on.
Similarly, vague criticism of anything without details (preferably a screen shot) will be considered as "unfounded"
Thanks
Sikeliot
12-17-2017, 12:28 PM
The "Sicilian" cluster likely absorbs both West Asian and Greek/Albanian like ancestry.
Percivalle
12-17-2017, 12:31 PM
it was composed of sardinian + sicilian refernce but kurd took the sardianian refernce out
so it is just a sicilian
and those results are before or after Sardinian reference was removed?
oszkar07
12-17-2017, 12:46 PM
Good thing they charge peanuts compared to the major genetic ethnicity tests because Geneplaza likely wouldn't last 6 months if they asked any serious fees.
The original version was nearly 50/50% NW European / W. Slavic. Now the k29 version is 100% NW European which isn't just inaccurate it's pathetic compared to the other summaries given by Geneplaza. It can't seem to differentiate German as a whole. Even the idea of "Scandinavian" as Germanic doesn't hold - my original Ancestry upload 54% NW, 26% Scandinavian, etc. which was more accurate but now it's a rather uninformative/worthless 95.4% NW European, 4% Baltic.
I feel this calculator is not great for people who would normaly have "NW Euro or central European" ancestry that is other than British or Scandinavian.
The updated version gave me 36% Southwest Euro , it was the single highest score in my admixture.
I doubt that I could be one third Spanish.
I could be wrong but I think because k29 lacks a germanic sample other than Scandinavian it possibly over exaggerates other components.
For me I think the pre update results were maybe a bit more accurate ,
I think my West Slavic score of 44% was exagerrated on its own, but I could interpret that as a Germanic / Slav admixture which I see being more accurate compared to the 36% SW Euro I get in the update.
Maybe because my raw data was originally ftdna and not 23 and me, it was less accurate ?
still in comparison when I use the same converted 23 and me file on "my heritage" I get 99% the same as my ftdna "my heritage" result.
Or maybe there is not enough pop samples for people of European background on this calc.
kingjohn
12-17-2017, 12:53 PM
and those results are before or after Sardinian reference was removed?
as far as i remember after the update :)
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/34962-(NEW)-GenePlaza-K25-Modern-Calculator-Results/page9
user name stuvane :)
kingjohn
12-17-2017, 02:47 PM
full aschenazi results from other forum :
EUROPEAN 71.5%
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 71.5%
Greek-Albanian 27.0%
Sardinian-Sicilian 25.6%
Southwest European 19.0% living la vida loca :dancing:
EASTERN EUROPEAN0.0%
Eastern Slavic0.0%
Southern Slavic0.0%
Baltic0.0%
NORTHERN EUROPEAN0.0%
Northwest European0.0%
Scandinavian0.0%
ASIAN 28.4% he didn't post his asian split don't know why ? :confused:
SIBERIAN & AMERINDIAN0.0%
AFRICAN0.0%
Oceanian0.0%
Good thing they charge peanuts compared to the major genetic ethnicity tests because Geneplaza likely wouldn't last 6 months if they asked any serious fees.
The original version was nearly 50/50% NW European / W. Slavic. Now the k29 version is 100% NW European which isn't just inaccurate it's pathetic compared to the other summaries given by Geneplaza. It can't seem to differentiate German as a whole. Even the idea of "Scandinavian" as Germanic doesn't hold - my original Ancestry upload 54% NW, 26% Scandinavian, etc. which was more accurate but now it's a rather uninformative/worthless 95.4% NW European, 4% Baltic.
Do you want some cheese with that wine.
kingjohn
12-17-2017, 04:45 PM
full adyghe k29 result from other forum
eastern european 16.3
eastern slavic 16.3%
west asian 68.8%
west asian 10.9%
caucasian 58%
southwest asia 0%
sc/s/c asia 14.9%
south central asian 4.2%
turkmen 5.7%
indian 5.1%
Stears
12-18-2017, 11:18 AM
Whatever you say, dear, because that screenshot is saved forever in my archives.
Say the guy, who score very significant east asian and eskimo admixture. east asian is 100% mongoloid.
Dear troll! you are less European.
Maintenance
12-18-2017, 11:25 AM
Say the guy, who score very significant east asian and eskimo admixture. east asian is 100% mongoloid.
Dear troll! you are less European.
What a mongoloid, not like us with full alpha euro ancestry
kingjohn
12-18-2017, 12:29 PM
Say the guy, who score very significant east asian and eskimo admixture. east asian is 100% mongoloid.
Dear troll! you are less European.
cumans and kipchak turkic tribes in romania :)
kingjohn
12-18-2017, 02:15 PM
my mother :hug2: :hug:
EUROPEAN 75.2%
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 57.3%
Sardinian-Sicilian 32.5%
Southwest European 24.8% me and father only score 2-3% but my brother 19%
Greek-Albanian 0.0%
EASTERN EUROPEAN 17.9%
Eastern Slavic 17.9% got those slavic allells from her father score 0% eastern europe
Southern Slavic0.0%
Baltic0.0%
NORTHERN EUROPEAN0.0%
Northwest European0.0%
Scandinavian0.0%
ASIAN 24.8%
WEST ASIAN 23.1%
West Asian 14.0%
Southwest Asian 6.2%
Caucasian 2.9%
CENTRAL ASIAN 1.7%
Turkmens 1.7%
SIBERIAN & AMERINDIAN
Ion Basescul
12-19-2017, 08:45 PM
Say the guy, who score very significant east asian and eskimo admixture. east asian is 100% mongoloid.
Dear troll! you are less European.
It's not my fault that I'm genetically more Hunnic than you, amigo.
Stears
12-19-2017, 08:59 PM
It's not my fault that I'm genetically more Hunnic than you, amigo.
That is what I was always saying, my mongoloid friend .
Kamal900
01-09-2018, 06:31 PM
My results:
https://image.ibb.co/bKsdxR/Capture4.png
https://image.ibb.co/bSMtWm/Capture5.png
https://image.ibb.co/dLM2rm/Capture11.png
https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/58540190.jpg
kingjohn
01-10-2018, 02:50 PM
My results:
https://image.ibb.co/bKsdxR/Capture4.png
https://image.ibb.co/bSMtWm/Capture5.png
https://image.ibb.co/dLM2rm/Capture11.png
https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/58540190.jpg
ok for comparsion a lebanese ;)
European 19.4%
Southern European 19.4%
* Southwest European 19.4%
* Sardinian-Sicilian 0.0
Asian 80.5%
West Asian 77.4%
* West Asian 39.2%
* Southwest Asian 11.5%
* Caucasian 26.7%
Central Asian 3.1%
* Turkmens 2.8%
* bashkirs 0.8%
de Burgh II
01-10-2018, 11:42 PM
Not much has changed.
https://s13.postimg.org/era75gasn/Untitled.jpg
Ritz06
05-14-2018, 07:48 PM
No Scandinavian, just South Slavic and Northwest European :picard1:
https://i.imgur.com/btN7nH5.png
https://i.imgur.com/EwmHH6d.png
Dibran
05-15-2018, 03:21 PM
No Scandinavian, just South Slavic and Northwest European :picard1:
https://i.imgur.com/btN7nH5.png
https://i.imgur.com/EwmHH6d.png
Who did you test with?
The algorithm was built using V3/V4 for 23andme. Outside of that(with exception of some ancestrydna accuracy) the rest is crap. Unless you tested 23andme or ancestry the calculator will not be accurate. For instance my Scottish friend who did livingDNA got like no northwest euro and 45 percent east slavic.
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