Ancient Iranian samples v2, PuntDNAL K13:

[Pahli]

Just to showcase the development and changes in Iranian genetics throughout the years, using my own results as the latest, keep in mind most of these results including my own are from Western Iran:

Mesolithic Iran (Northern Iran):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 67.62
2 NE_Europe 13.16
3 SW_Europe 7.53
4 West_Africa 6.14
5 South_Asia 5.55


Early Neolithic Iran, Tepe Abdul Hosein (Kermanshah):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 64.88
2 South_Asia 14.2
3 West_Africa 7.3
4 East_Africa 5.26
5 SW_Asia 5.23
6 NE_Asia 2.77
7 South_Africa 0.24
8 Americas 0.12


Early Neolithic Iran, Ganj Dareh (Kermanshah):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 70.04
2 South_Asia 16.4
3 West_Africa 7.54
4 SW_Asia 5.17
5 Oceania 0.77
6 South_Africa 0.08


Neolithic Iran:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 77.14
2 South_Asia 14.58
3 SW_Asia 4.38
4 West_Africa 2.96
5 Oceania 0.71
6 East_Africa 0.23


Neolithic Iran, Wezmeh Cave (Kermanshah)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 71.09
2 South_Asia 14.82
3 SW_Asia 6.55
4 West_Africa 4.04
5 South_Africa 1.5
6 Oceania 1.07
7 East_Africa 0.94


Late Neolithic Iran:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 79.75
2 SW_Asia 10.14
3 South_Asia 7.26
4 East_Africa 1.15
5 West_Africa 0.98
6 SW_Europe 0.72


Chalcolithic Iran, I1661:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 60.43
2 SW_Asia 14.44
3 SW_Europe 13.32
4 South_Asia 9.75
5 South_Africa 0.76
6 Oceania 0.44
7 East_Africa 0.35
8 Americas 0.27
9 SE_Asia 0.23


Chalcolithic Iran, I1665

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 56.17
2 SW_Asia 20.15
3 SW_Europe 14.36
4 South_Asia 5.88
5 West_Africa 1.91
6 Oceania 1.53


Iron Age Iran, Hasanlu (Naqadeh):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 48.85
2 SW_Europe 23.02
3 SW_Asia 16.17
4 NE_Europe 10.71
5 South_Asia 1.25


Late Medieval Iran, Kermanshah:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 48.58
2 SW_Europe 20.39
3 SW_Asia 16.12
4 NE_Europe 8.94
5 South_Asia 4.91
6 Siberia 0.89
7 Americas 0.18


Mine:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 45.62
2 SW_Europe 21.19
3 SW_Asia 15.51
4 NE_Europe 6.86
5 South_Asia 6.07
6 NE_Asia 1.6
7 East_Africa 0.93
8 Americas 0.93
9 Siberia 0.56
10 South_Africa 0.55
11 West_Africa 0.2


Kit numbers:

Mesolithic: M825671
Tepe Abdul: M220828
Ganj Dareh: M249214
Neolithic: M967114
Wezmeh: M392829
Late Neolithic: M937770
Chalcolithic I1661: M258119
Chalcolithic I1665: M169040
Iron Age Iran: M381564
Late Medieval Iran: T637158
Mine: Nice try, but no

[Babak]

Mashallah dadash

[zarzian]

I dont this we can trust results of the Neolithic/mesolithic samples when ran through calculaters based on modern samples. We need a broad sample range from East of the Mediterranean going all the way to the pacific, encompassing all of cebtral sputher and Eastern Eurasia, Spannig from the UP to the Chalcolithic.

[Pahli]

I dont this we can trust results of the Neolithic/mesolithic samples when ran through calculaters based on modern samples. We need a broad sample range from East of the Mediterranean going all the way to the pacific, encompassing all of cebtral sputher and Eastern Eurasia, Spannig from the UP to the Chalcolithic.

I get your point but we can conclude they aren't that similar to Brahui / Balochi people as some people claim, higher CHG and lower South Asian admix. They were most likely a bit darker than CHG.

[Leto]

The late medieval one on MDLP K16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 50.83
2 Steppe 14.16
3 Indian 14
4 Neolithic 12.12
5 NearEast 7.14
6 NorthEastEuropean 1.34
7 Subsaharian 0.24
8 NorthAfrican 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurd (Syria) 4.99
2 Armenian (Chambarak) 5.81
3 Armenian (Martuni) 6.06
4 Armenian (Dprabak) 6.24
5 Armenian (Yegvard) 6.44
6 Azeri (Azerbaijan) 6.57
7 Armenian (Erzrum) 6.75
8 Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) 6.77
9 Armenian (Gavar) 6.88
10 Armenian (Yerevan) 6.88
11 Azerbaijani_Dagestan (Azerbaijan_Dagestan) 6.92
12 Azerbaijani (Azerbaijan) 7
13 Armenian (Armenia) 7.05
14 Jew (Uzbekistan) 7.09
15 Adjar (Adjaria) 7.14
16 Assyrian (Turkey) 7.15
17 Iran_Lor (Lor) 7.17
18 Assyrian (Iraq) 7.31
19 Jew (Azerbaijan) 7.56
20 Zoroastrian (Iran) 7.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.5% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 46.5% Zoroastrian (Iran) @ 3.03
2 60.7% Kurd (Syria) + 39.3% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) @ 3.14
3 51.9% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 48.1% Iran_Lor (Lor) @ 3.38
4 76.9% Georgian (Kakheti) + 23.1% Roma (Gypsy) @ 3.46
5 66.1% Kurd (Syria) + 33.9% Georgian (Kakheti) @ 3.47
6 62.3% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 37.7% Iranian (Kerman) @ 3.55
7 50.9% Zoroastrian (Iran) + 49.1% Georgian (Kakheti) @ 3.56
8 89.8% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 10.2% GujaratiA (Gujarat) @ 3.59
9 56.1% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 43.9% Iranian (Fars) @ 3.59
10 68.1% Kurd (Syria) + 31.9% Georgian (Georgia) @ 3.62
11 86.4% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 13.6% Jatt (Haryana) @ 3.63
12 89.6% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 10.4% Brahmin (Uttar_Pradesh) @ 3.65
13 89.6% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 10.4% Vaish (Odisha) @ 3.66
14 84.7% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 15.3% Pashtun (Pakistan) @ 3.67
15 89.3% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 10.7% Kshatriya (India) @ 3.67
16 90.8% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 9.2% GujaratiB (Gujarat) @ 3.67
17 81.1% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 18.9% Pashtun (Afganistan) @ 3.68
18 87.8% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 12.2% Jew (Cochin) @ 3.68
19 73.4% Kurd (Syria) + 26.6% Abkhazian_Lykhny (Lykhny) @ 3.71
20 87.1% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 12.9% Pathan (Punjab) @ 3.72

[Petalpusher]

Makes sense; rise of EN from the west and SW Asian from the south in the chalcolithic, then little rebound from the north via IE in the Bronze/Iron age.

[zarzian]

I get your point but we can conclude they aren't that similar to Brahui / Balochi people as some people claim, higher CHG and lower South Asian admix. They were most likely a bit darker than CHG.

Uhm no we can't bro, those aren't some people claiming this, they are the authors of the Studies which analyzes these samples that concluded that Brahui and Balochis contain the most Iranian Neolithic ancestry, but particularly Iranian Zoroastrians according to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5113750/


These people are estimated to have separated from Early Neolithic farmers in Anatolia some 46-77,000 years ago and show affinities to modern day Pakistani and Afghan populations, but particularly to Iranian Zoroastrians

And you can't use some amateur homebrew calculator from gedmatch to try to prove anything about ancient samples, specially ones from that far back, unless the Calculator uses relevant samples from the correct timeline, and not one based on modern samples.