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Babak
08-05-2019, 07:12 PM
The only "Tajiks" lacking recent mongolid admixture are either Pamiri or Afghan Tajiks which are both not Tajiks in the strict sense. Pamiri orginally spoke East Iranic languages closer related to Pashto and Ossetian than to Persian or Kurdish and Afghan Tajiks are often just recently persianized Pashtuns especially the ones Living in eastern Afghanistan
What about Heratis? From experience, many of them seem to identify with the persians of Iran. Interestingly, they are also able to speak with an Iranian persian accent too lol
Arhat
08-05-2019, 07:16 PM
What about Heratis? From experience, many of them seem to identify with the persians of Iran. Interestingly, they are also able to speak with an Iranian persian accent too lol
in the strict sense they are just Persians and not Tajiks. Only recently they started to see themselves as Tajiks and historically they were not seen as distinct from Persians in Khorasan. Also they are unlike most Tajiks Shiites and speak a dialect very similar to Persian in Khorasan. The Tajik identity was imposed on them to seperate them from Persians in Iran. Herat was historically a less afghan City than Peshawar or Quetta but because of historical circumtances it is now part of Afghanistan and this pashtun cities are today not.
Babak
08-05-2019, 07:18 PM
in the strict sense they are just Persians and not Tajiks. Only recently they started to see themselves as Tajiks and historically they were not seen as distinct from Persians in Khorasan. Also they are unlike most Tajiks Shiites and speak a dialect very similar to Persian in Khorasan. The Tajik identity was imposed on them to seperate them from Persians in Iran. Herat was historically a less afghan City than Peshawar or Quetta but because of historical circumtances it is now part of Afghanistan and this pashtun cities are today not.
Ah i see. Makes sense
The only "Tajiks" lacking recent mongolid admixture are either Pamiri or Afghan Tajiks which are both not Tajiks in the strict sense. Pamiri orginally spoke East Iranic languages closer related to Pashto and Ossetian than to Persian or Kurdish and Afghan Tajiks are often just recently persianized Pashtuns especially the ones Living in eastern AfghanistanWhat are you talking about? Pashtuns have/score a lot 'Mongoloid' admixture. From Scythians, Hephthalites (White Huns) and from the Mongols. If you mean 'recent' from Uzbeks, Tatar, Kirgiz, Kazakh or Russians than I am not sure about it.
And you are right about the Pamir Tajiks, they are most likely Persianized Pamirs and therefore can be considered as 'Tajiks". But I'm sure that like Pashtuns also Pamirs have a lot Mongoloid DNA before the Persian migration into Central Asia.
Babak
08-06-2019, 01:33 AM
What are you talking about? Pashtuns have/score a lot 'Mongoloid' admixture. From Scythians, Hephthalites (White Huns) and from the Mongols. If you mean 'recent' from Uzbeks, Tatar, Kirgiz, Kazakh or Russians than I am not sure about it.
And you are right about the Pamir Tajiks, they are most likely Persianized Pamirs and therefore can be considered as 'Tajiks". But I'm sure that like Pashtuns also Pamirs have a lot Mongoloid DNA before the Persian migration into Central Asia.
Except...there was no major persian migration into central asia.
Except...there was no major persian migration into central asia.When there was some migration of Persians into Central Asia, the popualtion of Tajiks was not that high. Should be not a problem since population in Afgahnistan and Tajikstan is not that big
historical demographical data of Tajikistan
X 1000
https://i.postimg.cc/bYRm1J0h/tad.jpg
http://www.populstat.info/Asia/tajikisc.htm
Arhat
08-06-2019, 05:51 AM
What are you talking about? Pashtuns have/score a lot 'Mongoloid' admixture. From Scythians, Hephthalites (White Huns) and from the Mongols. If you mean 'recent' from Uzbeks, Tatar, Kirgiz, Kazakh or Russians than I am not sure about it.
And you are right about the Pamir Tajiks, they are most likely Persianized Pamirs and therefore can be considered as 'Tajiks". But I'm sure that like Pashtuns also Pamirs have a lot Mongoloid DNA before the Persian migration into Central Asia.
Lol mongolid admixture from Russians. Are you stupid or what? There is no russian admixture in Central Asia. Pashtuns have very low mongolid admixture and most can be esplained either with prehistorical admixture from Siberian HGs which Andronovo already picked up before they entered Afghanistan.
Tajik is just an umbrealla term for various persian speaking groups in Central Asia which dont identify with a tribal group. They dont have a common history or identity.
Lol mongolid admixture from Russians. Are you stupid or what? There is no russian admixture in Central Asia. Pashtuns have very low mongolid admixture and most can be esplained either with prehistorical admixture from Siberian HGs which Andronovo already picked up before they entered Afghanistan.
Tajik is just an umbrealla term for various persian speaking groups in Central Asia which dont identify with a tribal group. They dont have a common history or identity.Are Tatars not Russians? There many ethnic Russians in Siberia who are mixed with the local people. Are Mongoloid Baltic people in Russia not Russians? Russians are full of the Mongoloid DNA. There is a lot Mongoloid Russian admixture in Central Asia.
Russians are full of the Mongoloid DNA and they are spreading their Mongoloid DNA with their migrations!
Most Mongoloid DNA in Pashtuns is most lileky fromt he Scythians, Hephthalites (White Huns) and the Mongol invasions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasions_of_India
Nevertheless, Tajiks speak Persian and are very, very mixed people. They have got their DNA from practically everybody! So, their DNA can't be representative for the ancient people
Lol mongolid admixture from Russians.Tell this to the Russian general Sergey Shoygu.
https://i.postimg.cc/W3XYL0Gs/Sergey-Shoigu.jpg
If you tell Putin or Shoygu that he is not a Russia, he will laugh at your face. Russians like Shoygu spread a lot Mongoloid DNA in Central Asia. It was also part of the USSR policy to send 'ethnic' Russians to other peripheral parts of Russia. Russians mixed with everybody from Europe to Japan.
Tell this to the Russian general Sergey Shoygu.
https://i.postimg.cc/W3XYL0Gs/Sergey-Shoigu.jpg
If you tell Putin or Shoygu that he is not a Russia, he will laugh at your face. Russians like Shoygu spread a lot Mongoloid DNA in Central Asia. It was also part of the USSR policy to send 'ethnic' Russians to other peripheral parts of Russia. Russians mixed with everybody from Europe to Japan.
This is nonsense. Why are you trolling? Shoygu is half Tuvan and most Russians did not mix with Central Asians in Soviet times. Moreover a lot of Russians have left since 1991. My mother was born in Uzbekistan and grew up in Turkmenistan (a military family). They left in the 80s. In Tajikistan Russians were only 1% back in 2010. Attributing Mongoloid admixture in Central Asia (!) to Russian influence (we're only about 5% East Eurasian on average) is beyond ridiculous. First you claim that you rely on facts and evidence and then you spew such utter crap. Please stop this.
Russian can mean Russian citizen (rossiyanin) and ethnic (i.e. Slavic/European) Russian (russky).
Central Asia has been inhabited by Turkic peoples such as Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Turkmens and Kyrgyz for centuries, yet Mongoloid admixture came there with European Russians who are ~5% East Eurasian on average. LOL. I've never heard such a retarded claim before.
https://i.imgur.com/2559Sba.png
This is nonsense. Why are you trolling? Shoygu is half Tuvan and most Russians did not mix with Central Asians in Soviet times. Moreover a lot of Russians have left since 1991. My mother was born in Uzbekistan and grew up in Turkmenistan (a military family). They left in the 80s. In Tajikistan Russians were only 1% back in 2010. Attributing Mongoloid admixture in Central Asia (!) to Russian influence (we're only about 5% East Eurasian on average) is beyond ridiculous. First you claim that you rely on facts and evidence and then you spew such utter crap. Please stop this.
Russian can mean Russian citizen (rossiyanin) and ethnic (i.e. Slavic/European) Russian (russky).The only one who is trolling here is actually YOU!
It seems that my Soviet education was much better than yours and I was better in Russian history than you! Learn your own history, dude. And don't try to steal history of ancient Aryan people from Kurdistan.
Since the very beginning ethnic Russians started to mix with the Mongoloid/Turkic people in Central Asia. Russians have a very long history with the Mongoloid people.
After Ivan Grozny many Turkic speaking people were assimilated into the Russian ethnicity and became Russians. All those folks Russians assimilated in Kazan, Astrakhan, Sibir, Crimea were all ethnic speaking Mongoloid Turks. During this type of conquests, Russians spread their DNA in Central Asia
https://i.imgur.com/HNakNMT.jpg
Central Asia has been inhabited by Turkic peoples such as Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Turkmens and Kyrgyz for centuries, yet Mongoloid admixture came there with European Russians who are ~5% East Eurasian on average. LOL. I've never heard such a retarded claim before.What about Mongoloid Kazan, Astrakhan, Sibir and Crimea?
Казанский поход, Иван Грозный
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHYlcCmsd5I
Slavic Italian
08-06-2019, 05:16 PM
The only one who is trolling here is actually YOU!
It seems that my Soviet education was much better than yours and I was better in Russian history than you! Learn your own history, dude. And don't try to steal history of ancient Aryan people from Kurdistan.
Since the very beginning ethnic Russians started to mix with the Mongoloid/Turkic people in Central Asia. Russians have a very long history with the Mongoloid people.
After Ivan Grozny many Turkic speaking people were assimilated into the Russian ethnicity and became Russians. All those folks Russians assimilated in Kazan, Astrakhan, Sibir, Crimea were all ethnic speaking Mongoloid Turks. During this type of conquests, Russians spread their DNA in Central Asia
https://i.imgur.com/HNakNMT.jpg
More so with the Finno Ugrics.
Muslims in the Russian Empire did not mix with Orthodox people, it was prohibited as there was no civil marriage back then and they were generally left to themselves. The Tatars are an ethnic group of their own, they still exist and don't view themselves as russky.
Anyway, this is a redundant discussion as every reasonable person can see that the very premise was ludicrous and nonsensical from the start. You brought up Russians only to troll and cause distress.
Slavic Russian mixed a lot with the Mongoloid Turks. That's why they now like each other very much. Putin loves Erdogan. Russian women love Turkic men and love to go to Turkey on holidays and f*ck with he Turks
Russian women marry the Turks by thousands. Intermarriages between Russian females and Turkic men is high:
From Russia With Love, Thousands of Wives for Turkish Husbands: https://www.thedailybeast.com/from-russia-with-love-thousands-of-wives-for-turkish-husbands
Turkey is full of Russian women who came to Turkey to marry the Turks. Why? Because the Russians and Turks have the same SOUL!
What about Mongoloid Kazan, Astrakhan, Sibir and Crimea?
Being part of a political state does not mean merging or assimilating ethnically. American blacks have been part of the United States since its inception, yet they are still a clearly separate group. Russia is a multiethnic country, not everyone is an ethnic Russian there or a Slav. By the way, Volga Tatars are majority European by DNA too, only about 20% East Eurasian.
Who cares anyway, most of the so called 'mongoloid' countries are way better off than a shithole like Kurdistan where people can't even stop fighting over religious and territorial differences. They are leaving the region en mass instead of making it a liveable place.
Muslims in the Russian Empire did not mix with Orthodox people, it was prohibited as there was no civil marriage back then and they were generally left to themselves. The Tatars are an ethnic group of their own, they still exist and don't view themselves as russky.
Anyway, this is a redundant discussion as every reasonable person can see that the very premise was ludicrous and nonsensical from the start. You brough up Russians only to troll and cause distress.I know Russians very good. Russian don't care about religion. And Turks became Christians! Russians Christianized most Turks in Russia. The Russians are heavily mixed with the Turks in Kazan, Astrakhan, etc. Russians mix with everything and everybody. During the FIFA world cup, Russian ladies married even thousands of niggers from Africa.
Some 60,000 Russians are living in the Mediterranean province of Antalya, the majority of whom are women. Some 40,000 Russian women are married to Turkish men, with around 80,000 children.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/russian-wives-returning-to-turkey-after-normalization-with-russia-1115
https://i.postimg.cc/HkMSsrD1/a.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/JhmQrK5j/b.jpg
And don't try to steal history of ancient Aryan people from Kurdistan.
Lol, I don't need your 'Aryan' or Middle Eastern history, don't worry. :lol:
Who cares anyway, most of the so called 'mongoloid' countries are way better off than a shithole like Kurdistan where people can't even stop fighting over religious and territorial differences.You started a discussion about the so called Aryans. And Aryans had NOTHING to do with the Mongoloid/Denisovan DNA at all. Ancient Aryans like te Aryan Medes or Mitanni were Caucasoid people, close to the people like Georgians and Kurds.
Lol, I don't need your 'Aryan' or Middle Eastern history, don't worry. :lol:Good for you, Stick to your Turkic history! Tawarish, from now on I'm going to react only to your 'serious' posts
You started a discussion about the so called Aryans. And Aryans had NOTHING to do with the Mongoloid/Denisovan DNA at all. Ancient Aryans were Caucasoid people, close to people like Georgians and Kurds.
Yes, I was discussing the topic in a civil manner without personal attacks or anyting. And you have repeatedly done so and eventually turned this thread into a mess. You have been reported. Enough of this.
You have been reported. Enough of this.Because unlike Putin, I don't like Muslims, Arabs and Turks?
Because unlike Putin, I don't like Muslims, Arabs and Turks?
Because you are a troll that can't be taken seriously. We were discussing Iranians and you started spewing Russophobic nonsense only because I am Russian and Arhat is too although he is part Afghan and didn't grow up in Russia, so he knows something about that Indo-European stuff because of familial connections.
More so with the Finno Ugrics.Russians were already Finno-Ugric people before they started to assimilate Mongoloid Uralic and Turkic people.
Just look how much Finno-Ugric Y-DNA N1c the Russians have..
Because you are a troll that can't be taken seriously.No, I'm just countering your arguments with scientific facts and historical events. While you are the one who is spreading nonsense and lies with your empty posts.
Russians have nothing to do with the Aryans or the ancient Aryan history of Aryan Media & Persia, just live with it...
Arhat
08-06-2019, 05:41 PM
The only one who is trolling here is actually YOU!
It seems that my Soviet education was much better than yours and I was better in Russian history than you! Learn your own history, dude. And don't try to steal history of ancient Aryan people from Kurdistan.
Since the very beginning ethnic Russians started to mix with the Mongoloid/Turkic people in Central Asia. Russians have a very long history with the Mongoloid people.
After Ivan Grozny many Turkic speaking people were assimilated into the Russian ethnicity and became Russians. All those folks Russians assimilated in Kazan, Astrakhan, Sibir, Crimea were all ethnic speaking Mongoloid Turks. During this type of conquests, Russians spread their DNA in Central Asia
https://i.imgur.com/HNakNMT.jpg
Russians hardly mixed with any of this groups. Even with Kazan Tatars mixing was not frequent prior to the Soviet period. The religious and cultural differences were much too big. Russians mixed with Ukrainians, Poles and Germans much more. Even Russians in Siberia show more recent Central Euro admixture than recent Siberian admixture.
No, I'm just countering your arguments with scientific facts and historical events. While you are the one who is spreading nonsense and lies with your empty posts.
Oh yeah, very scientific. You gotta be kidding or drunk.
Russians have nothing to do with the Aryans or the ancient Aryan history of Aryan Media & Persia, just live with it...
I'm fine with my white European physical appearance, unlike you I don't have to explain to people that I'm not an ISIS support xD
Arhat
08-06-2019, 05:46 PM
Slavic Russian mixed a lot with the Mongoloid Turks. That's why they now like each other very much. Putin loves Erdogan. Russian women love Turkic men and love to go to Turkey on holidays and f*ck with he Turks
Russian women marry the Turks by thousands. Intermarriages between Russian females and Turkic men is high:
From Russia With Love, Thousands of Wives for Turkish Husbands: https://www.thedailybeast.com/from-russia-with-love-thousands-of-wives-for-turkish-husbands
Turkey is full of Russian women who came to Turkey to marry the Turks. Why? Because the Russians and Turks have the same SOUL!
Lol russian women hate your kind of people. You have better chances in Germany or western Europe.
Russians hardly mixed with any of this groups. Even with Kazan Tatars mixing was not frequent prior to the Soviet period. The religious and cultural differences were much too big. Russians mixed with Ukrainians, Poles and Germans much more. Even Russians in Siberia show more recent Central Euro admixture than recent Siberian admixture.Russians are mixed people of mixed race. Of course they have got a lot European, but also Mongoloid DNA in them.
The population of Russia was much bigger then the population of Turkic Tatar people. The Russians just assimilated those poor Tatar folks. It is detectable and those Tatars belong now in the Russian blood/DNA.
Russians have a lot Mongoloid (Finno-Ugrian, Uralic, Altaic/Turkic, Siberian) DNA in them. Every time they mixed with non-Mongoloid people they are spreading their Russian Mongoloid DNA to other people.
Babak
08-06-2019, 05:48 PM
Russians are mixed people of mixed race. Of course they have got a lot European, but also Mongoloid DNA in them.
The population of Russia was much bigger then the population of Turkic Tatar people. The Russians just assimilated those poor Tatar folks. It is detectable and those Tatars belong now in the Russian blood/DNA.
Russians have a lot Mongoloid (Finno-Ugrian, Uralic, Altaic/Turkic, Siberian) DNA in them. Every time they mixed with non-Mongoloid people they are spreading their Russian Mongoloid DNA to other people.
Wtf lol
Oh yeah, very scientific. You gotta be kidding or drunk.
I'm fine with my white European physical appearance, unlike you I don't have to explain to people that I'm not an ISIS support xDI have shown you ARYAN Iron Age DNA from the Aryan Media era. Or DNA from the ancient Aryan BMAC. I referred you to all the academic studies written on this topic. You are actually the one who is not providing me prominent and recent academic papers on this issue.
Happy to read you are happy with your appearance.
Today, the biggest supporter of ISIS/DAESH/Erdogan is Putin by the way.
Lol russian women hate your kind of people. You have better chances in Germany or western Europe.You don't live in Russia.
Talking about the Russian women, they like everybody, from Africa to Thailand and Brazil or Mexico.
Arhat
08-06-2019, 05:52 PM
Russians are mixed people of mixed race. Of course they have got a lot European, but also Mongoloid DNA in them.
The population of Russia was much bigger then the population of Turkic Tatar people. The Russians just assimilated those poor Tatar folks. It is detectable and those Tatars belong now in the Russian blood/DNA.
Russians have a lot Mongoloid (Finno-Ugrian, Uralic, Altaic/Turkic, Siberian) DNA in them. Every time they mixed with non-Mongoloid people they are spreading their Russian Mongoloid DNA to other people.
Yeah Russians are subhumans because they have around 0% - 10% mongolid admixture from Uralics. The scientific, historical and cultural contribution of Russians to human civilization is nullified by this fact. It is of course much better to come from a backwarded society with tribal warfare, islamism, incest and pedophily. Thank you that you opened my eyes. Sadly we can never be Aryans like you...
Sadly we can never be Aryans like you...You can't because you have nothing in common with the REAL Aryans of the Median Empire, Mitanni Kingdom, the Aryan MAGI, Aryan Mithraism, Aryan Maryannu, Aryan Umman-manda in northern Mesopotamia etc., etc.
It is not your history, period!
Better stick to your Turkic history..
Better stick to your Turkic history..
Russians and being Turkic :P Lol! xD xD xD also Russian Mongoloid admixture most likely comes from Finno-Ugric, not Turkic. Maybe Russians in Central Russia have some Turkic ancestry, but I don't know that too...
You can't because you have nothing in common with the REAL Aryans of the Median Empire, Mitanni Kingdom, the Aryan MAGI, Aryan Mithraism, Aryan Maryannu, Aryan Umman-manda in northern Mesopotamia etc., etc.
It is not your history, period!
Better stick to your Turkic history..
I am Eastern European, Slavic and Orthodox Christian - these are my identities. My father is Belorussian plus some Polish and Russian and my mother is Russian. We have no known non-Slavic ancestors. I have never claimed to have something to do with Turkey, India or Iran. You are attacking me and my ethnic background (what do Russian women or Putin have to do with ancient history?) only because I said the Bronze Age Indo-Iranians were closer to modern Europeans than to modern Persians or Kurds. I only say this because of the DNA samples I've seen, not because I'm trying to appropriate someone else's history or heritage.
Russians and being Turkic :P Lol! xD xD xD also Russian Mongoloid admixture most likely comes from Finno-Ugric, not Turkic. Maybe Russians in Central Russia have some Turkic ancestry, but I don't know that too...
Russians in Central Asia are all recent migrants (after the 1860s and especially after 1917 and 1945) or descendants of such migrants. Maybe except Kazakhstan which was largely founded by Russians as the Kazakhs were a nomadic culture and didn't live in cities and didn't rely on agriculture. As you probably know, in Muslim cultures it is the male lineage that counts, so in a marriage between a Muslim man and non-Muslim woman the children will be automatically considred Muslim and raised in the father's culture.
Russians in Central Asia are all recent migrants (after the 1860s and especially after 1917 and 1945) or descendants of such migrants. Maybe except Kazakhstan which was largely founded by Russians as the Kazakhs were a nomadic culture and didn't live in cities and didn't rely on agriculture. As you probably know, in Muslim cultures it is the male lineage that counts, so in a marriage between a Muslim man and non-Muslim woman the children will be automatically considred Muslim and raised in the father's culture.
Yes, it's so. But nowadays some children of non-Muslim woman & Muslim man couples are non-Muslim. Though those Muslim men are not that religious, it's quite normal...
Arhat
08-06-2019, 06:33 PM
You can't because you have nothing in common with the REAL Aryans of the Median Empire, Mitanni Kingdom, the Aryan MAGI, Aryan Mithraism, Aryan Maryannu, Aryan Umman-manda in northern Mesopotamia etc., etc.
It is not your history, period!
Better stick to your Turkic history..
Let be serious there are no Aryans today. And i am not talking about genetics here. Modern day Indo-Iranians are either Muslims, Hindu and in rare cases Orthodox (Ossetians). Yazidism as a syncretic religion has also only few similarities with the religion of ancient Aryans. Hinduism is even more distant from ancient Aryans but probably some cults (Brahmanism) preserved at least some rituals of Aryans. Modern day Indo-Iranians are the descendants of Aryans but they already have many other influences and their identities developed much later.
Yes, it's so. But nowadays some children of non-Muslim woman & Muslim man couples are non-Muslim. Though those Muslim men are not that religious, it's quite normal...
Well, I think in Turkey in particular they are still raised as Turks first and foremost. With Turkish language and culture and self-identification.
Let be serious there are no Aryans today. And i am not talking about genetics here. Modern day Indo-Iranians are either Muslims, Hindu and in rare cases Orthodox (Ossetians). Yazidism as a syncretic religion has also only few similarities with the religion of ancient Aryans. Hinduism is even more distant from ancient Aryans but probably some cults (Brahmanism) preserved at least some rituals of Aryans. Modern day Indo-Iranians are the descendants of Aryans but they already have many other influences and their identities developed much later.
Yazidism is nothing actually as its books were composed by non-Yazidis in medieval or modern times. So much for the ancient Aryan tradition. Modern Yazidism is like the Druze religion - yonger than Islam.
Other than that, I agree this Aryanism shouldn't be a thing at all as it's neither an ethnicity, nor a culture. What do Nepali Buddhists, Ossetians and Persians have in common?
Well, I think in Turkey in particular they are still raised as Turks first and foremost. With Turkish language and culture and self-identification.
Same in iran. I Know not a single iranian that is hardcore religious. In my family nobody is even religous.
Babak
08-06-2019, 06:39 PM
Let be serious there are no Aryans today. And i am not talking about genetics here. Modern day Indo-Iranians are either Muslims, Hindu and in rare cases Orthodox (Ossetians). Yazidism as a syncretic religion has also only few similarities with the religion of ancient Aryans. Hinduism is even more distant from ancient Aryans but probably some cults (Brahmanism) preserved at least some rituals of Aryans. Modern day Indo-Iranians are the descendants of Aryans but they already have many other influences and their identities developed much later.
Forgot Zoroastrianism
Well, I think in Turkey in particular they are still raised as Turks first and foremost. With Turkish language and culture and self-identification.
Same. I know a 1/2 Turkish (father) & 1/4 Uzbek 1/4 Russian (mother) girl who was born and raised in Uzbekistan (she studied the high school in Turkey, currently studying university in South Korea) and she considers herself Turkish and speaks Turkish better than she speaks Russian.
itilvolga
08-06-2019, 06:47 PM
Same. I know a 1/2 Turkish (father) & 1/4 Uzbek 1/4 Russian (mother) girl who was born and raised in Uzbekistan (she studied the high school in Turkey, currently studying university in South Korea) and she considers herself Turkish and speaks Turkish better than she speaks Russian.
Are you talking about Asya Aktaş?
Are you talking about Asya Aktaş?
Yes!
I love and follow her so much :o She's my idol :amour101: :amour101:
Where do you know her?
Babak
08-06-2019, 06:57 PM
Yazidism is nothing actually as its books were composed by non-Yazidis in medieval or modern times. So much for the ancient Aryan tradition. Modern Yazidism is like the Druze religion - yonger than Islam.
Other than that, I agree this Aryanism shouldn't be a thing at all as it's neither an ethnicity, nor a culture. What do Nepali Buddhists, Ossetians and Persians have in common?
Well, it was originally strictly used to describe modern day Iran actually.
"Scholars point out that, even in ancient times, the idea of being an "Aryan" was religious, cultural and linguistic, not racial.[9][10][11]"
"The Iranian people used the term as an ethnic label for themselves in the Avesta scriptures, and the word forms the etymological source of the country name Iran.[4][5][6][7]"
Philologist J.P. Mallory argues that "As an ethnic designation, the word [Aryan] is most properly limited to the Indo-Iranians, and most justly to the latter where it still gives its name to the country Iran.[4]
itilvolga
08-06-2019, 07:07 PM
Yes!
I love and follow her so much :o She's my idol :amour101: :amour101:
Where do you know her?
I just saw her introduction video on Youtube randomly and took a look at it, she looks exactly like what she is lol
I just saw her introduction video on Youtube randomly and took a look at it, she looks exactly like what she is lol
When I saw her first time, I guessed that she has Central Asian ancestry! And she came up 50% Turkish, 25% Uzbek and 25% Russian
What a beautiful mix! Also she's so beautiful. God bless her...
When I saw her first time, I guessed that she has Central Asian ancestry! And she came up 50% Turkish, 25% Uzbek and 25% Russian
What a beautiful mix! Also she's so beautiful. God bless her...
Show me her pictures, I'm curious even though this has nothing to with the topic.
Show me her pictures, I'm curious even though this has nothing to with the topic.
She has a Youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W_REQ3s_aY
I can't show her pictures here, because she can see here and get mad... maybe from private message
Let's restore order here
Another IRANIAN GEDMATCH KIT, not some unrelated bullshit (lol). @Babak, you prolly remember her (Arya)
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:
Kit M464522
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.66
2 Gedrosia 30.22
3 Southwest_Asian 15.28
4 Atlantic_Med 5.65
5 North_European 5.64
6 South_Asian 3.62
7 Southeast_Asian 1.39
8 East_African 0.43
9 Northwest_African 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranians (Behar) 2.83
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 4.52
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 4.57
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 5.51
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.26
6 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 16.33
7 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 17.49
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 17.91
9 Turks (Behar) 17.94
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 18.51
11 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 18.54
12 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 19.03
13 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 20.18
14 Turkish (Dodecad) 20.27
15 Armenian (Dodecad) 21.23
16 Lebanese (Behar) 21.43
17 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 21.64
18 Syrians (Behar) 22.34
19 Lezgins (Behar) 23.7
20 Jordanians (Behar) 24.66
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.3% Iranians (Behar) + 26.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.15
2 89.1% Iranians (Behar) + 10.9% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.42
3 73% Iranians (Behar) + 27% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.46
4 93% Iranians (Behar) + 7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.46
5 93.5% Iranians (Behar) + 6.5% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.56
6 94% Iranians (Behar) + 6% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.56
7 94% Iranians (Behar) + 6% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.57
8 90.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 9.7% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 2.59
9 94.7% Iranians (Behar) + 5.3% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 2.6
10 96.6% Iranians (Behar) + 3.4% Samaritians (Behar) @ 2.6
11 94.1% Iranians (Behar) + 5.9% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.6
12 95% Iranians (Behar) + 5% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 2.61
13 77.7% Iranians (Behar) + 22.3% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 2.62
14 96.2% Iranians (Behar) + 3.8% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.63
15 96.5% Iranians (Behar) + 3.5% Adygei (HGDP) @ 2.64
16 96% Iranians (Behar) + 4% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.64
17 97.8% Iranians (Behar) + 2.2% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 2.64
18 96.1% Iranians (Behar) + 3.9% Armenians (Behar) @ 2.65
19 95.6% Iranians (Behar) + 4.4% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.66
20 98.5% Iranians (Behar) + 1.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.66
HarappaWorld Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.9
2 Baloch 29.37
3 SW-Asian 14.95
4 NE-Euro 4.78
5 Mediterranean 4.2
6 S-Indian 3.66
7 Papuan 0.98
8 NE-Asian 0.43
9 SE-Asian 0.31
10 Beringian 0.29
11 E-African 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 3.35
2 kurd (xing) 4.44
3 kurd (harappa) 4.58
4 iranian (harappa) 4.63
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 5.76
6 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 10.39
7 turkish (harappa) 11.9
8 azeri (harappa) 12.19
9 armenian (harappa) 12.79
10 iraqi-arab (harappa) 12.97
11 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 13.67
12 assyrian (harappa) 14.7
13 iranian-jew (behar) 15.08
14 turk (behar) 16.38
15 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 16.42
16 iraq-jew (behar) 16.64
17 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 16.72
18 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 17.07
19 turkmen (yunusbayev) 17.08
20 georgia-jew (behar) 17.22
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94% kurd (xing) + 6% gujarati-a (1000genomes) @ 2.27
2 93.4% kurd (xing) + 6.6% kerala-nair (harappa) @ 2.28
3 94.2% kurd (xing) + 5.8% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 2.3
4 91.5% kurd (xing) + 8.5% sindhi (hgdp) @ 2.31
5 90.9% kurd (xing) + 9.1% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 2.31
6 93.9% kurd (xing) + 6.1% ap-reddy (harappa) @ 2.33
7 93.4% kurd (xing) + 6.6% iyengar-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.34
8 93.2% kurd (xing) + 6.8% meghawal (reich) @ 2.35
9 93.2% kurd (xing) + 6.8% gujarati-b (hapmap) @ 2.35
10 93.4% kurd (xing) + 6.6% iyer-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.35
11 93.3% kurd (xing) + 6.7% gujarati (harappa) @ 2.36
12 93.3% kurd (xing) + 6.7% tn-brahmin (xing) @ 2.37
13 90.4% kurd (xing) + 9.6% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.37
14 91.6% kurd (xing) + 8.4% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 2.37
15 91.9% kurd (xing) + 8.1% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 2.37
16 93.3% kurd (xing) + 6.7% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) @ 2.37
17 93.3% kurd (xing) + 6.7% kerala-christian (harappa) @ 2.38
18 91.6% kurd (xing) + 8.4% punjabi (harappa) @ 2.38
19 94.1% kurd (xing) + 5.9% velama (metspalu) @ 2.38
20 93.6% kurd (xing) + 6.4% ap-brahmin (xing) @ 2.38
She has a Youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W_REQ3s_aY
I can't show her pictures here, because she can see here and get mad... maybe from private message
Doesn't look very mongoloid to me. Maybe her Turkish father isn't much mong either.
Let's restore order here
Another IRANIAN GEDMATCH KIT, not some unrelated bullshit (lol). @Babak, you prolly remember her (Arya)
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:
Kit M464522
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.66
2 Gedrosia 30.22
3 Southwest_Asian 15.28
4 Atlantic_Med 5.65
5 North_European 5.64
6 South_Asian 3.62
7 Southeast_Asian 1.39
8 East_African 0.43
9 Northwest_African 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranians (Behar) 2.83
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 4.52
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 4.57
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 5.51
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.26
6 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 16.33
7 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 17.49
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 17.91
9 Turks (Behar) 17.94
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 18.51
11 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 18.54
12 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 19.03
13 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 20.18
14 Turkish (Dodecad) 20.27
15 Armenian (Dodecad) 21.23
16 Lebanese (Behar) 21.43
17 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 21.64
18 Syrians (Behar) 22.34
19 Lezgins (Behar) 23.7
20 Jordanians (Behar) 24.66
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.3% Iranians (Behar) + 26.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.15
2 89.1% Iranians (Behar) + 10.9% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.42
3 73% Iranians (Behar) + 27% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.46
4 93% Iranians (Behar) + 7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.46
5 93.5% Iranians (Behar) + 6.5% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.56
6 94% Iranians (Behar) + 6% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.56
7 94% Iranians (Behar) + 6% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.57
8 90.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 9.7% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 2.59
9 94.7% Iranians (Behar) + 5.3% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 2.6
10 96.6% Iranians (Behar) + 3.4% Samaritians (Behar) @ 2.6
11 94.1% Iranians (Behar) + 5.9% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.6
12 95% Iranians (Behar) + 5% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 2.61
13 77.7% Iranians (Behar) + 22.3% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 2.62
14 96.2% Iranians (Behar) + 3.8% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.63
15 96.5% Iranians (Behar) + 3.5% Adygei (HGDP) @ 2.64
16 96% Iranians (Behar) + 4% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.64
17 97.8% Iranians (Behar) + 2.2% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 2.64
18 96.1% Iranians (Behar) + 3.9% Armenians (Behar) @ 2.65
19 95.6% Iranians (Behar) + 4.4% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.66
20 98.5% Iranians (Behar) + 1.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.66
HarappaWorld Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.9
2 Baloch 29.37
3 SW-Asian 14.95
4 NE-Euro 4.78
5 Mediterranean 4.2
6 S-Indian 3.66
7 Papuan 0.98
8 NE-Asian 0.43
9 SE-Asian 0.31
10 Beringian 0.29
11 E-African 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 3.35
2 kurd (xing) 4.44
3 kurd (harappa) 4.58
4 iranian (harappa) 4.63
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 5.76
6 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 10.39
7 turkish (harappa) 11.9
8 azeri (harappa) 12.19
9 armenian (harappa) 12.79
10 iraqi-arab (harappa) 12.97
11 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 13.67
12 assyrian (harappa) 14.7
13 iranian-jew (behar) 15.08
14 turk (behar) 16.38
15 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 16.42
16 iraq-jew (behar) 16.64
17 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 16.72
18 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 17.07
19 turkmen (yunusbayev) 17.08
20 georgia-jew (behar) 17.22
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94% kurd (xing) + 6% gujarati-a (1000genomes) @ 2.27
2 93.4% kurd (xing) + 6.6% kerala-nair (harappa) @ 2.28
3 94.2% kurd (xing) + 5.8% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 2.3
4 91.5% kurd (xing) + 8.5% sindhi (hgdp) @ 2.31
5 90.9% kurd (xing) + 9.1% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 2.31
6 93.9% kurd (xing) + 6.1% ap-reddy (harappa) @ 2.33
7 93.4% kurd (xing) + 6.6% iyengar-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.34
8 93.2% kurd (xing) + 6.8% meghawal (reich) @ 2.35
9 93.2% kurd (xing) + 6.8% gujarati-b (hapmap) @ 2.35
10 93.4% kurd (xing) + 6.6% iyer-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.35
11 93.3% kurd (xing) + 6.7% gujarati (harappa) @ 2.36
12 93.3% kurd (xing) + 6.7% tn-brahmin (xing) @ 2.37
13 90.4% kurd (xing) + 9.6% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.37
14 91.6% kurd (xing) + 8.4% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 2.37
15 91.9% kurd (xing) + 8.1% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 2.37
16 93.3% kurd (xing) + 6.7% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) @ 2.37
17 93.3% kurd (xing) + 6.7% kerala-christian (harappa) @ 2.38
18 91.6% kurd (xing) + 8.4% punjabi (harappa) @ 2.38
19 94.1% kurd (xing) + 5.9% velama (metspalu) @ 2.38
20 93.6% kurd (xing) + 6.4% ap-brahmin (xing) @ 2.38
do you know where she/he is from?
Doesn't look very mongoloid to me. Maybe her Turkish father isn't much mong either.
Her father is from Çorum, Central Turkey. Turkish people from Çorum province have 5%-8% Mongoloid.
*Source: The results of the Turkish individuals and their Mongoloid(East Eurasian) admixture
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JEezl8YoZjOoNqnMoha9sWdMsvIwYYmV5ccljTkhryQ/edit#gid=0
do you know where she/he is from?
Persian. Maybe from Tehran? I don't remember.
Her father is from Çorum, Central Turkey. Turkish people from Çorum province have 5%-8% Mongoloid.
*Source: The results of the Turkish individuals and their Mongoloid(East Eurasian) admixture
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JEezl8YoZjOoNqnMoha9sWdMsvIwYYmV5ccljTkhryQ/edit#gid=0
She should do a DNA test. I would guess she is 13-15% mongoloid if she is 25% Uzbek (Uzbeks are 30-40% mongoloid from what I've seen) and 25% Russian.
She should do a DNA test. I would guess she is 13-15% mongoloid if she is 25% Uzbek (Uzbeks are 30-40% mongoloid from what I've seen) and 25% Russian.
I thought the same too! Also Uzbeks have 38% Mongoloid on average. But it can vary from 25% to 55%
Source: this photo(below)
https://abload.de/img/adsz22eu6.png
I'd want her to do a DNA test too but it seems she is not interested in such things, unfortunately...
But I saw her grandpa's and grandma's photo and the grandma looked a bit too Mongoloid for an Uzbek. Also her mother looks like typical Aegean(Western) Turkish woman. Her father looks like he has too much Anatolian or Iranian vibe, also looks like one of the seniors of my school who's from Gümüşhane, Northeastern Turkey. Even her mother looks more Turkish than her father... (I'm not joking)
Babak
08-06-2019, 08:26 PM
Persian. Maybe from Tehran? I don't remember.
I think she said somewhere around Khuzestan.
altaic
08-06-2019, 08:38 PM
I thought the same too! Also Uzbeks have 38% Mongoloid on average. But it can vary from 25% to 55%
Source: this photo(below)
https://abload.de/img/adsz22eu6.png
I'd want her to do a DNA test too but it seems she is not interested in such things, unfortunately...
But I saw her grandpa's and grandma's photo and the grandma looked a bit too Mongoloid for an Uzbek. Also her mother looks like typical Aegean(Western) Turkish woman. Her father looks like he has too much Anatolian or Iranian vibe, also looks like one of the seniors of my school who's from Gümüşhane, Northeastern Turkey. Even her mother looks more Turkish than her father... (I'm not joking)
Hey Turks:D , this is Iranian topic what is going on here? :cool: Lets look an adopted Kazakh girl instead. More Mongoloid to less category could be ; Kazakh Krygz Uzbek Turkmen Turk respectively
https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/cjrigw/my_results_i_was_adopted_from_kazakhstan_not_was/
BTW; She has 8.3% Western Asian.
Hey Turks:D , this is Iranian topic what is going on here? :cool: Lets look an adopted Kazakh girl instead. More Mongoloid to less category could be ; Kazakh Krygz Uzbek Turkmen Turk respectively
https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/cjrigw/my_results_i_was_adopted_from_kazakhstan_not_was/
BTW; She has 8.3% Western Asian.
She should be told to try GEDmatch. Let me know if she posts her GM results.
Her father is from Çorum, Central Turkey. Turkish people from Çorum province have 5%-8% Mongoloid.
*Source: The results of the Turkish individuals and their Mongoloid(East Eurasian) admixture
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JEezl8YoZjOoNqnMoha9sWdMsvIwYYmV5ccljTkhryQ/edit#gid=0
It’s great that someone took the time to do a spreadsheet for various Turkey provinces. I myself have been always curious because us northern Iraqi Kurds get alot of DNA matches with various Turkey provinces from central to east Turkey and we don’t have any idea what type of people live in those provinces but now we can refer to the spreadsheet to have an idea but just to let you know not to take too literally the mongoloid percentages from Dodecad K 12 or any other Gedmatch calculator because they have too many other components that hide mongoloid Ancestry . They are still ok but not 100% accurate
For example those people who score alot of Caucasian or Gedrosian will show less mongoloid than those who don’t because all percentages have to add up to 100%. For true mongoloid percent single population sharing like some companies offer is best
She has a Youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W_REQ3s_aY
I can't show her pictures here, because she can see here and get mad... maybe from private message
To me she looks plenty East Asian. Cute btw
Arhat
08-06-2019, 08:57 PM
Forgot Zoroastrianism
Yes i forgot them but this religion was rather a continuation of BMAC traditions and Zoroaster pretty much revolted against Aryan rituals . Vedism is much closer to ancient Aryans customs. Of course Zoroastrianism preserved some aryan rituals but it itself is a syncretic BMAC-Aryan religion. The closest to ancient aryan religion was probably the pre-islamic religion of Nuristani which sadly was recently replaced by Islam. The modern day pagan religon of Kalash looks pre-Aryan/BMAC and they are actually very low in R1a for the region.
It’s great that someone took the time to do a spreadsheet for various Turkey provinces. I myself have been always curious because us northern Iraqi Kurds get alot of DNA matches with various Turkey provinces from central to east Turkey and we don’t have any idea what type of people live in those provinces but now we can refer to the spreadsheet to have an idea but just to let you know not to take too literally the mongoloid percentages from Dodecad K 12 or any other Gedmatch calculator because they have too many other components that hide mongoloid Ancestry . They are still ok but not 100% accurate
For example those people who score alot of Caucasian or Gedrosian will show less mongoloid than those who don’t because all percentages have to add up to 100%. For true mongoloid percent single population sharing like some companies offer is best
Gedrosia, Caucasus, Middle East, Mediterranean and similar components are 0% mongoloid, stop repeating this wrong statemenent. You're not another retard who would claim Russians made Central Asia mongoloid, are you?
Fucking once again: Mongoloid = East Asian, Siberian and Southeast Asian. Period.
I think she said somewhere around Khuzestan.
Wherever she’s from her Dodecad k12 is very similar to Iraqi kurds
Yes i forgot them but this religion was rather a continuation of BMAC traditions and Zoroaster pretty much revolted against Aryan rituals . Vedism is much closer to ancient Aryans customs. Of course Zoroastrianism preserved some aryan rituals but it itself is a syncretic BMAC-Aryan religion. The closest to ancient aryan religion was probably the pre-islamic religion of Nuristani which sadly was recently replaced by Islam. The modern day pagan religon of Kalash looks pre-Aryan/BMAC and they are actually very low in R1a for the region.
What are your thoughts on these Zoroastrian results?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?286324-Zoroastrians-from-Iran-and-from-India
They seem to score even higher South Asian than Muslim Persians. You can post your thoughts in that thread, I asked Litvinski to add HarappaWorld or Dodecad as they're more accurate for West and South Asians than Eurogenes.
What are your thoughts on these Zoroastrian results?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?286324-Zoroastrians-from-Iran-and-from-India
They seem to score even higher South Asian than Muslim Persians. You can post your thoughts in that thread, I asked Litvinski to add HarappaWorld or Dodecad as they're more accurate for West and South Asians than Eurogenes.
They also score more NortheastEuro than muslim persians.
They also score more NortheastEuro than muslim persians.
Only marginally. I will make a conclusion after seeing their Dodecad or Harappa results though. Persians are like 4-6% North European on K12b.
Only marginally. I will make a conclusion after seeing their Dodecad or Harappa results though. Persians are like 4-6% North European on K12b.
Sorry was overlooking their baltic scores. Yes only marginally is more likely
Gedrosia, Caucasus, Middle East, Mediterranean and similar components are 0% mongoloid, stop repeating this wrong statemenent. You're not another retard who would claim Russians made Central Asia mongoloid, are you?
Fucking once again: Mongoloid = East Asian, Siberian and Southeast Asian. Period.
You sound very retarded and again and don’t get what I’m saying so I’m going to educate you only once
Everything MUST add to 100% in a calculator. To make it simple for YOU let’s talk about k3 calculator and this will apply to any K calculator
Let’s say I have
0 SSA alleles
1 E. Eurasian allele
6 W. Eurasian alleles
What’s my admixture percentages?
E. Eurasian = 1/7 = 14.3%
W. Eurasian = 6/7 =85.7%
Now for you let’s say you have
0 SSA alleles
1 E. Eurasian allele
10 W. Eurasian alleles
What’s your admixture percentages?
E. Eurasian = 1/11= 9.1%
W. Eurasian = 10/11=90.9%
So You see even though we both have the same amount of East Eurasian alleles, we both have 1 each your east Eurasian admixture percentage is much less than mine. why? because you have many more west Eurasian alleles than me
Now buzz off
Babak
08-06-2019, 09:35 PM
Wherever she’s from her Dodecad k12 is very similar to Iraqi kurds
Yea, she identified as persian tho. In fact, i think her entire family was persian.
Arhat
08-07-2019, 08:09 AM
What are your thoughts on these Zoroastrian results?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?286324-Zoroastrians-from-Iran-and-from-India
They seem to score even higher South Asian than Muslim Persians. You can post your thoughts in that thread, I asked Litvinski to add HarappaWorld or Dodecad as they're more accurate for West and South Asians than Eurogenes.
They are identical to Iranians from the same region. Zoroastrians in Iran are mainly from Yazd which is more in the southeast and so more South Asian and a little bit more steppe shifted. Arabs had pretty much zero genetic impact in Iran.
Arhat
08-07-2019, 08:12 AM
They also score more NortheastEuro than muslim persians.
not reallt only if you compare them with Iranians living in western Iran. Iranians from the same region like this Zoroastrians are genetically the same.
We are the purest Kurds and therefore the closest people to the proto-West Iranic people (Aryans/Umman-manda). Your father has Turkic/Central Asian DNA, that's why he has more EHG/Siberian.
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 39.59
2 East_Med 31.79
3 South_Asian 8.5
4 West_Med 7.7
5 Red_Sea 5.02
6 Baltic 3.2
7 North_Atlantic 2.32
8 Siberian 1
9 Sub-Saharan 0.42
10 Amerindian 0.39
11 Northeast_African 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurdish 2.81
2 Iranian 5.07
3 Azeri 6.82
4 Armenian 7.53
5 Georgian_Jewish 8.37
6 Assyrian 10.98
7 Turkish 11.23
8 Iranian_Jewish 13.4
9 Kurdish_Jewish 14.01
10 Georgian 15.44
11 Kumyk 16.11
12 Abhkasian 16.46
13 Adygei 17.79
Hadouken's results for comparison (Zaza from Tunceli, Turkey).
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Dersim_in_Turkey.svg/640px-Dersim_in_Turkey.svg.png
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 36.06
2 East_Med 30.76
3 West_Med 8.27
4 South_Asian 6.84
5 Red_Sea 6.06
6 North_Atlantic 4.67
7 Baltic 2.74
8 Sub-Saharan 1.29
9 Siberian 1.29
10 East_Asian 1.21
11 Amerindian 0.82
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Azeri 4.05
2 Kurdish 4.87
3 Iranian 6.25
4 Armenian 7.54
5 Turkish 7.58
6 Georgian_Jewish 7.94
7 Assyrian 9.88
8 Iranian_Jewish 12.29
9 Kurdish_Jewish 12.78
10 Kumyk 15.67
11 Lebanese_Muslim 15.98
12 Turkmen 17.02
13 Georgian 17.02
14 Syrian 17.03
15 Adygei 18.28
16 Abhkasian 18.51
17 Balkar 19.44
18 Ossetian 19.85
19 Cyprian 20.27
20 Kabardin 20.71
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.2% Kurdish + 13.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.94
2 85.3% Kurdish + 14.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.02
3 85.6% Kurdish + 14.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.09
4 86.4% Kurdish + 13.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.13
5 67.9% Azeri + 32.1% Armenian @ 2.19
6 86% Kurdish + 14% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.22
7 89.8% Kurdish + 10.2% Tunisian @ 2.26
8 82.4% Kurdish + 17.6% Cyprian @ 2.3
9 90.2% Kurdish + 9.8% Algerian @ 2.4
10 85.7% Kurdish + 14.3% South_Italian @ 2.42
11 90.5% Kurdish + 9.5% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.43
12 63.1% Kurdish + 36.9% Turkish @ 2.47
13 86.6% Kurdish + 13.4% Ashkenazi @ 2.48
14 79% Kurdish + 21% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.48
15 70.4% Azeri + 29.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.53
16 80.3% Kurdish + 19.7% Syrian @ 2.58
17 90.8% Kurdish + 9.2% Moroccan @ 2.64
18 86.3% Kurdish + 13.7% East_Sicilian @ 2.64
19 88% Kurdish + 12% West_Sicilian @ 2.66
20 55.7% Iranian + 44.3% Turkish @ 2.75
Result from Tehran (most likely Azeri roots, going by his name):
Eurogenes k13
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 36.18
2 East_Med 28.48
3 South_Asian 11.63
4 North_Atlantic 5.75
5 Baltic 4.46
6 Red_Sea 3.63
7 West_Med 2.9
8 Siberian 2.78
9 Amerindian 1.79
10 East_Asian 1.32
11 Northeast_African 0.65
12 Sub-Saharan 0.44
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Azeri 6.11
2 Iranian 6.2
3 Kurdish 6.88
4 Turkish 12.03
5 Turkmen 12.7
6 Armenian 14.29
7 Georgian_Jewish 14.5
8 Kumyk 14.63
9 Assyrian 15.98
10 Iranian_Jewish 17.04
11 Adygei 17.88
12 Kurdish_Jewish 18.32
13 Georgian 18.8
14 Balkar 19.05
15 Ossetian 19.65
16 Lezgin 19.79
17 Kabardin 19.88
18 Abhkasian 20.09
19 North_Ossetian 20.14
20 Chechen 20.46
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.4% Iranian + 28.6% Turkmen @ 3.86
2 69.1% Kurdish + 30.9% Turkmen @ 4.33
3 89.6% Azeri + 10.4% Sindhi @ 4.39
4 88.7% Azeri + 11.3% Pathan @ 4.53
5 85.8% Azeri + 14.2% Makrani @ 4.57
6 90.4% Azeri + 9.6% Punjabi_Jat @ 4.68
7 92.5% Azeri + 7.5% Gujarati @ 4.68
8 84% Iranian + 16% Tadjik @ 4.7
9 89.3% Azeri + 10.7% Kalash @ 4.71
10 93.7% Azeri + 6.3% Velamas @ 4.72
11 92.7% Azeri + 7.3% Kshatriya @ 4.73
12 88.5% Azeri + 11.5% Brahui @ 4.75
13 88.6% Azeri + 11.4% Balochi @ 4.78
14 92.5% Azeri + 7.5% Brahmin_UP @ 4.79
15 85.7% Azeri + 14.3% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.79
16 94% Azeri + 6% Kurumba @ 4.8
17 94.4% Azeri + 5.6% Piramalai @ 4.82
18 93.8% Azeri + 6.2% Kanjar @ 4.83
19 89.6% Iranian + 10.4% Aghan_Hazara @ 4.83
20 93.5% Kurdish + 6.5% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 4.85
Dodecad k12b
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.92
2 Gedrosia 24.98
3 Southwest_Asian 11.53
4 North_European 8.41
5 Atlantic_Med 6
6 South_Asian 5.53
7 East_Asian 3.64
8 Siberian 2.72
9 Northwest_African 1.04
10 Sub_Saharan 0.19
11 Southeast_Asian 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian (Dodecad) 6.98
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 8.15
3 Iranians (Behar) 8.32
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 9.41
5 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 10.57
6 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 13.58
7 Turks (Behar) 14.1
8 Turkish (Dodecad) 16.32
9 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 17.05
10 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 19.34
11 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 19.51
12 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 19.72
13 Assyrian (Dodecad) 20.08
14 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 20.68
15 Lebanese (Behar) 20.88
16 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 20.94
17 Lezgins (Behar) 21.32
18 Armenian (Dodecad) 21.57
19 Syrians (Behar) 22.51
20 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 22.57
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.9% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 46.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.42
2 53% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 47% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.63
3 56.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 43.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.88
4 62.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 37.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.91
5 53.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 46.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.01
6 75.2% Iranians (Behar) + 24.8% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 3.09
7 53.4% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 46.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.18
8 84.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 15.1% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 3.54
9 65.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 34.2% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 3.54
10 66.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 33.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 3.65
11 65.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 34.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.68
12 66.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 33.8% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 3.74
13 87.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 12.7% Uygur (HGDP) @ 3.78
14 67.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 32.4% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 3.85
15 51.9% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 48.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.03
16 87.6% Iranian (Dodecad) + 12.4% Hazara (HGDP) @ 4.1
17 63.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 36.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.21
18 53.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 46.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.21
19 74.1% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 25.9% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.21
20 77.4% Turks (Behar) + 22.6% Balochi (HGDP) @ 4.24
Mehmet Udegey
08-10-2019, 08:39 PM
Warning: they may also be not fully Iranian, I couldn't verify their origins.
A103188
1 balochi_hgdp + georgian_harappa + iranian_harappa + syrian_behar @ 2.299037
Kit Num: A103188
MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 50.83
2 Indian 20.91
3 Steppe 8.75
4 Neolithic 8.10
5 NearEast 6.70
6 Subsaharian 1.35
Finished reading population data. 517 populations found.
16 components mode.
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Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani @ 4.826572
2 Iranian_Iran @ 5.248052
3 Iranian_Fars @ 5.610853
4 Iran_Lor_Lor @ 6.004217
5 Zoroastrian_Iran @ 6.505424
6 Iranian_Kerman @ 7.453822
7 Kurd_Syria @ 7.927966
8 Azerbaijani_Baku @ 8.963779
9 Azeri_Azerbaijan @ 9.632664
10 Jew_Uzbekistan @ 10.614485
11 Azerbaijani_Dagestan_Azerbaijan_Dagestan @ 11.622761
12 Azerbaijani_Dagestan_Azerbaijan_Dagestan @ 11.921544
13 Azerbaijani_Azerbaijan @ 12.617737
14 Assyrian_Iraq @ 12.696815
15 Armenian_Gavar @ 12.897128
16 Azerbaijani_Khachmaz_Azerbaijan_Khachmaz @ 13.034398
17 Assyrian_Turkey @ 13.052886
18 Jew_Kurdish @ 13.073277
19 Armenian_Martuni @ 13.109337
20 Armenian_Dprabak @ 13.133574
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian_Armenia +50% Iranian_Bandari @ 3.467549
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian_Armenia +25% Brahui_Baluchistan +25% Iranian_Kerman @ 1.602840
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++
1 Georgian_Abkhazia_Abkhazia + Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani + Jew_Iraqi + Makrani_Pakistan @ 1.571044
2 Armenian_Armenia + Armenian_Vanatur_Hrazdan + Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani + Makrani_Pakistan @ 1.573208
3 Armenian_Armenia + Armenian_Lebanon + Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani + Makrani_Pakistan @ 1.592079
4 Armenian_Armenia + Armenian_Armenia + Brahui_Baluchistan + Iranian_Kerman @ 1.602840
5 Armenian_Armenia + Armenian_Yerevan + Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani + Makrani_Pakistan @ 1.652484
6 Armenian_Armenia + Armenian_Armenia + Balochi_Baluchistan + Iranian_Kerman @ 1.678836
7 Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani + Jew_Kurdish + Makrani_Pakistan + Turk_Trabzon @ 1.695796
8 Armenian_Vanatur_Hrazdan + Georgian_Laz + Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani + Makrani_Pakistan @ 1.707431
9 Armenian_Armenia + Armenian_Dprabak + Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani + Makrani_Pakistan @ 1.769365
10 Armenian_Vanatur_Hrazdan + Armenian_Armenia + Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani + Makrani_Pakistan @ 1.777112
11 Armenian_Armenia + Armenian_Armenia + Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani + Makrani_Pakistan @ 1.778112
12 Armenian_Armenia + Armenian_Yegvard + Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani + Makrani_Pakistan @ 1.778707
13 Armenian_Armenia + Armenian_Gavar + Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani + Makrani_Pakistan @ 1.785692
14 Armenian_Armenia + Armenian_Martuni + Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani + Makrani_Pakistan @ 1.794090
15 Armenian_Armenia + Armenian_Vanatur_Hrazdan + Brahui_Baluchistan + Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani @ 1.811037
16 Armenian_Armenia + Assyrian_Armenia + Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani + Makrani_Pakistan @ 1.823096
17 Jew_Azerbaijan + Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani + Makrani_Pakistan + Turk_Trabzon @ 1.857258
18 Armenian_Armenia + Assyrian_Turkey + Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani + Makrani_Pakistan @ 1.869633
19 Armenian_Armenia + Armenian_Lebanon + Brahui_Baluchistan + Iran_Mazandrani_Mazandrani @ 1.879364
20 Armenian_Armenia + Armenian_Armenia + Brahui_Baluchistan + Iranian_Kerman @ 1.882470
altaic
08-12-2019, 01:14 PM
I did not know much about Iranian roots on me. I have definitely some roots for sure.
Can I say that I am 30-40% Iranian/Kurd overall? Or is it possible to separate as X percentage Iranian and X percentage Kurdish based on my results?
Only one of my parents one side is Kurdish so I was expecting ~25% but it looks like it is little more since I have also some Iranian results. Below are my details.
Dodecad K12b Oracle results
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 41.72
2 Gedrosia 18.81
3 Southwest_Asian 12.94
4 Atlantic_Med 10.89
5 North_European 9.97
6 Siberian 2.09
7 Southeast_Asian 1.43
8 South_Asian 1.43
9 Sub_Saharan 0.44
10 East_Asian 0.28
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turks (Behar) 6.67
2 Turkish (Dodecad) 8.03
3 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 8.92
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 10.34
5 Kurd (Dodecad) 11.17
6 Iranian (Dodecad) 11.33
7 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 13.14
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 13.62
9 Assyrian (Dodecad) 14.07
10 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 14.25
11 Iranians (Behar) 14.31
12 Armenian (Dodecad) 14.55
13 Lebanese (Behar) 14.83
14 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 15.31
15 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 15.42
16 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 15.94
17 Armenians (Behar) 17.53
18 Druze (HGDP) 17.61
19 Syrians (Behar) 17.89
20 Cypriots (Behar) 18.07
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 32.5% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 3.32
2 70.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 29.1% Greek (Dodecad) @ 3.53
3 65.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 34.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 3.58
4 68.8% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 31.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 3.58
5 66% Turkish (Dodecad) + 34% Iranians (Behar) @ 3.69
6 66.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 33.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 3.74
7 69.3% Kurd (Dodecad) + 30.7% Greek (Dodecad) @ 3.81
8 68.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 31.1% Greek (Dodecad) @ 3.84
9 57.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 42.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 3.88
10 65.9% Kurd (Dodecad) + 34.1% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 3.9
11 59.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 40.1% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 3.95
12 86.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 13.4% German (Dodecad) @ 3.96
13 85.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 14.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.97
14 60.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.6% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.04
15 87% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 13% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 4.04
16 80.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 19.2% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.07
17 88.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 11.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.09
18 87.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 12.6% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 4.1
19 80% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 20% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.14
20 87.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 12.3% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.17
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Eurogenes K13 Oracle results
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.41
2 West_Asian 32.64
3 West_Med 9.83
4 Baltic 9.22
5 South_Asian 5.55
6 Red_Sea 3.68
7 North_Atlantic 1.83
8 Siberian 1.45
9 Amerindian 1.32
10 East_Asian 0.81
11 Oceanian 0.25
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Azeri 8.08
2 Georgian_Jewish 8.59
3 Turkish 8.63
4 Assyrian 9.71
5 Kurdish 10.11
6 Armenian 10.21
7 Iranian 10.75
8 Iranian_Jewish 12.36
9 Kurdish_Jewish 12.98
10 Lebanese_Muslim 15.14
11 Kumyk 16.6
12 Syrian 16.79
13 Cyprian 17.97
14 Turkmen 18.89
15 Lebanese_Druze 19.22
16 Adygei 19.75
17 Georgian 20.15
18 Lebanese_Christian 20.58
19 Jordanian 20.86
20 Balkar 20.91
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88% Georgian_Jewish + 12% Erzya @ 4.62
2 87.6% Georgian_Jewish + 12.4% Chuvash @ 4.66
3 88.3% Georgian_Jewish + 11.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.73
4 87.9% Georgian_Jewish + 12.1% MA-1 @ 4.75
5 88.4% Georgian_Jewish + 11.6% Mari @ 4.76
6 86% Georgian_Jewish + 14% Tatar @ 4.81
7 87.9% Georgian_Jewish + 12.1% Southwest_Russian @ 4.97
8 89.4% Georgian_Jewish + 10.6% East_Finnish @ 5
9 87.9% Georgian_Jewish + 12.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.01
10 89.5% Georgian_Jewish + 10.5% Lithuanian @ 5.06
11 88.8% Georgian_Jewish + 11.2% Estonian_Polish @ 5.11
12 89.6% Georgian_Jewish + 10.4% Estonian @ 5.12
13 88% Georgian_Jewish + 12% Ukrainian @ 5.16
14 88.9% Georgian_Jewish + 11.1% Belorussian @ 5.17
15 88.7% Georgian_Jewish + 11.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.18
16 89.6% Georgian_Jewish + 10.4% Finnish @ 5.19
17 86.2% Assyrian + 13.8% Chuvash @ 5.27
18 86.7% Assyrian + 13.3% Erzya @ 5.28
19 87.8% Georgian_Jewish + 12.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.3
20 88.8% Georgian_Jewish + 11.2% Polish @ 5.33
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HarappaWorld
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 43.09
2 Baloch 19.21
3 SW-Asian 11.87
4 Mediterranean 9.77
5 NE-Euro 9.63
6 Siberian 2.36
7 S-Indian 1.20
8 American 1.14
9 SE-Asian 1.05
10 San 0.55
11 NE-Asian 0.13
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 turkish (harappa) 4.06
2 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 5.34
3 turk (behar) 5.73
4 azeri (harappa) 5.8
5 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 5.93
6 armenian (harappa) 7.63
7 kurd (harappa) 8.71
8 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 9.01
9 kurd (yunusbayev) 9.07
10 iranian (harappa) 10.02
11 kurd (xing) 10.55
12 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 11.59
13 iranian (behar) 11.66
14 assyrian (harappa) 12.59
15 kumyk (yunusbayev) 13.12
16 iraqi-arab (harappa) 13.25
17 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 13.26
18 georgia-jew (behar) 13.28
19 armenian (behar) 13.76
20 armenian (yunusbayev) 13.9
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.6% kurd (yunusbayev) + 43.4% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 2.77
2 72% kurd (yunusbayev) + 28% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 3.1
3 69% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 31% iranian (behar) @ 3.11
4 95.9% turkish (harappa) + 4.1% belorussian (behar) @ 3.12
5 96.3% turkish (harappa) + 3.7% lithuanian (behar) @ 3.12
6 61.7% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 38.3% kurd (harappa) @ 3.13
7 95.5% turkish (harappa) + 4.5% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 3.13
8 95.8% turkish (harappa) + 4.2% russian (behar) @ 3.14
9 52.6% kurd (xing) + 47.4% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 3.15
10 96.8% turkish (harappa) + 3.2% finnish (1000genomes) @ 3.17
11 72.4% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 27.6% iranian (behar) @ 3.19
12 95.1% turkish (harappa) + 4.9% slovenian (xing) @ 3.2
13 95.8% turkish (harappa) + 4.2% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 3.2
14 95.1% turkish (harappa) + 4.9% hungarian (behar) @ 3.21
15 93% turkish (harappa) + 7% bulgarian (yunusbayev) @ 3.22
16 65.6% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 34.4% kurd (harappa) @ 3.24
17 93.3% turkish (harappa) + 6.7% romanian-a (behar) @ 3.24
18 96% turkish (harappa) + 4% n-european (xing) @ 3.3
19 96.1% turkish (harappa) + 3.9% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 3.34
20 96.3% turkish (harappa) + 3.7% orcadian (hgdp) @ 3.35
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I did not know much about Iranian roots on me. I have definitely some roots for sure.
Can I say that I am 30-40% Iranian/Kurd overall? Or is it possible to separate as X percentage Iranian and X percentage Kurdish based on my results?
Only one of my parents one side is Kurdish so I was expecting ~25% but it looks like it is little more since I have also some Iranian results. Below are my details.
Is your data from 23andme? Maybe you should try converting it to the old V3 format as it gives somewhat different and (often) more accurate results. Here you can download the program:
http://dnagenics.com/dna-kit-studio/
altaic
08-12-2019, 01:51 PM
Is your data from 23andme? Maybe you should try converting it to the old V3 format as it gives somewhat different and (often) more accurate results. Here you can download the program:
http://dnagenics.com/dna-kit-studio/
Yes 23andme V5. I downloaded the file and put input as my 23andme v5 txt file to convert and got new txt file as output on my desktop. Is that it, what is next then? Should I zip the txt file?
altaic
08-12-2019, 01:52 PM
Is your data from 23andme? Maybe you should try converting it to the old V3 format as it gives somewhat different and (often) more accurate results. Here you can download the program:
http://dnagenics.com/dna-kit-studio/
BTW I use RAWTools/RAWConverter section. Do you manually choose V3?
Yes 23andme V5. I downloaded the file and put input as my 23andme v5 txt file to convert and got new txt file as output on my desktop. Is that it, what is next then? Should I zip the txt file?
No, I don't think you need to zip it. Try uploading the txt to GEDmatch. I personally haven't used the program, so I don't know for sure.
altaic
08-12-2019, 02:53 PM
No, I don't think you need to zip it. Try uploading the txt to GEDmatch. I personally haven't used the program, so I don't know for sure.
I converted via RAWTools/RAWConverter section. Exactly same results shown in GEDmatch. I am not sure how to convert v5 results into v3 as you suggest.
I converted via RAWTools/RAWConverter section. Exactly same results shown in GEDmatch. I am not sure how to convert v5 results into v3 as you suggest.
I cannot give you further detail. I hope Thracian and Kaspias can help you.
I did not know much about Iranian roots on me. I have definitely some roots for sure.
Can I say that I am 30-40% Iranian/Kurd overall? Or is it possible to separate as X percentage Iranian and X percentage Kurdish based on my results?
Only one of my parents one side is Kurdish so I was expecting ~25% but it looks like it is little more since I have also some Iranian results. Below are my details.
I would go with 25%. The rest might be overlap from way back.
Babak
08-13-2019, 11:53 PM
Half Persian half Qasghai
Eurogene K36
Arabian 5.44
Armenian 8.91
Central_African 0.27
East_Central_Euro 0.99
East_Med 14.65
Eastern_Euro 2.83
Near_Eastern 20.03
North_Atlantic 0.74
North_Caucasian 10.95
South_Asian 0.40
South_Central_Asian 27.34
West_African 0.94
West_Caucasian 6.47
HarappaWorld
1 Caucasian 36.46
2 Baloch 27.18
3 SW-Asian 13.7
4 NE-Euro 6.68
5 S-Indian 5.25
6 Mediterranean 4.8
7 E-African 1.52
8 W-African 1.35
9 American 0.75
10 San 0.72
11 Beringian 0.69
12 Siberian 0.48
13 Papuan 0.42
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.9% iranian (behar) + 8.1% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.18
2 95.9% iranian (behar) + 4.1% lithuanian (behar) @ 2.38
3 95.2% iranian (behar) + 4.8% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.4
4 95.5% iranian (behar) + 4.5% russian (hgdp) @ 2.4
5 88.6% iranian (behar) + 11.4% pashtun (harappa) @ 2.41
6 96.3% iranian (behar) + 3.7% finnish (1000genomes) @ 2.45
7 95.5% iranian (behar) + 4.5% belorussian (behar) @ 2.46
8 95.5% iranian (behar) + 4.5% russian (behar) @ 2.48
9 95.2% iranian (behar) + 4.8% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 2.5
10 88.2% iranian (behar) + 11.8% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 2.53
11 92.5% iranian (behar) + 7.5% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 2.55
12 95% iranian (behar) + 5% chuvash (behar) @ 2.56
13 95.6% iranian (behar) + 4.4% orcadian (hgdp) @ 2.58
14 95.4% iranian (behar) + 4.6% n-european (xing) @ 2.59
15 95.4% iranian (behar) + 4.6% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 2.59
16 93.7% iranian (behar) + 6.3% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.6
17 92.2% iranian (behar) + 7.8% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 2.62
18 94.9% iranian (behar) + 5.1% slovenian (xing) @ 2.62
19 95.5% iranian (behar) + 4.5% british (1000genomes) @ 2.64
20 95.5% iranian (behar) + 4.5% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 2.64
Dodecad K12
1 Caucasus 35.66
2 Gedrosia 26.55
3 Southwest_Asian 14.09
4 North_European 8.17
5 South_Asian 6.03
6 Atlantic_Med 4.64
7 Sub_Saharan 2.21
8 Siberian 1.03
9 East_African 1.02
10 Northwest_African 0.6
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 27.4% Pathan (HGDP) @ 3.68
2 93.1% Iranians (Behar) + 6.9% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.07
3 92.7% Iranians (Behar) + 7.3% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.08
4 93.7% Iranians (Behar) + 6.3% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 4.13
5 93.1% Iranians (Behar) + 6.9% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.13
6 93.3% Iranians (Behar) + 6.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.14
7 92.9% Iranians (Behar) + 7.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.15
8 93% Iranians (Behar) + 7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.16
9 94.1% Iranians (Behar) + 5.9% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 4.18
10 77% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 23% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 4.19
11 94.2% Iranians (Behar) + 5.8% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 4.23
12 94.1% Iranians (Behar) + 5.9% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.25
13 93.2% Iranians (Behar) + 6.8% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.28
14 75% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 25% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.33
15 92.7% Iranians (Behar) + 7.3% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.36
16 90.2% Iranians (Behar) + 9.8% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.53
17 63.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 36.2% Pathan (HGDP) @ 4.53
18 89.9% Iranians (Behar) + 10.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.55
19 87.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 12.9% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 4.57
20 90.4% Iranians (Behar) + 9.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.6
MDLP K23b
1 Caucasian 33.36
2 South_Central_Asian 27.28
3 Near_East 11.56
4 South_Indian 6.34
5 European_Early_Farmers 4.87
6 European_Hunters_Gatherers 3.77
7 North_African 3.74
8 Ancestral_Altaic 2.92
9 Subsaharian 2.26
10 Australoid 1.32
11 Arctic 0.94
12 Khoisan 0.41
13 Archaic_African 0.32
14 East_African 0.31
15 Tungus-Altaic 0.25
16 Amerindian 0.2
17 East_Siberian 0.09
18 Archaic_Human 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian ( ) 5.17
2 Kurd_South ( ) 7
3 Kurd_East ( ) 8.74
4 Kurd ( ) 12.25
5 Kurd_North ( ) 12.56
6 Azeri ( ) 13.11
7 Iraki ( ) 14.02
8 Ain_Touta_WGA ( ) 15.73
9 Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) 16.18
10 Baku_WGA ( ) 16.25
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.8% Iranian ( ) + 12.2% Adygei ( ) @ 2.33
2 91.4% Iranian ( ) + 8.6% Abkhasian ( ) @ 2.34
3 88.4% Iranian ( ) + 11.6% North_Ossetian ( ) @ 2.37
4 92% Iranian ( ) + 8% Georgian_Svan ( ) @ 2.37
5 86.1% Iranian ( ) + 13.9% Chechen ( ) @ 2.38
6 85% Iranian ( ) + 15% Kumyk ( ) @ 2.38
7 92.4% Iranian ( ) + 7.6% Georgian_Tbilisi ( ) @ 2.39
8 91.6% Iranian ( ) + 8.4% Georgian ( ) @ 2.39
9 92% Iranian ( ) + 8% Georgian_Megrelia ( ) @ 2.39
10 88.8% Iranian ( ) + 11.2% Ossetian ( ) @ 2.4
11 88.3% Iranian ( ) + 11.7% Balkar ( ) @ 2.4
12 91.7% Iranian ( ) + 8.3% Adjara ( ) @ 2.41
13 86.4% Iranian ( ) + 13.6% Kabardin ( ) @ 2.41
14 92.5% Iranian ( ) + 7.5% Georgian_Imereti ( ) @ 2.42
15 85.7% Iranian ( ) + 14.3% Cirkassian ( ) @ 2.46
16 93% Iranian ( ) + 7% Georgian_Laz ( ) @ 2.47
17 88.5% Iranian ( ) + 11.5% Circassian ( ) @ 2.47
18 90.3% Iranian ( ) + 9.7% Kakheti ( ) @ 2.49
19 82% Iranian ( ) + 18% Azeri_Dagestan ( ) @ 2.52
20 91.4% Iranian ( ) + 8.6% Turk_Trabzon ( ) @ 2.6
Eurogene K15
1 East_Med 31.64
2 West_Asian 31.29
3 South_Asian 12.28
4 Eastern_Euro 7.98
5 Red_Sea 5.15
6 Baltic 4.03
7 Sub-Saharan 2.51
8 Atlantic 2.32
9 West_Med 1.13
10 Amerindian 0.8
11 Northeast_African 0.65
12 Oceanian 0.22
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95% Iranian + 5% MA-1 @ 3.65
2 96.8% Iranian + 3.2% Erzya @ 4.14
3 98.1% Iranian + 1.9% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 4.15
4 98.1% Iranian + 1.9% Bantu_N.E. @ 4.15
5 98.2% Iranian + 1.8% Biaka_Pygmy @ 4.15
6 98.1% Iranian + 1.9% Luhya @ 4.15
7 98% Iranian + 2% San @ 4.16
8 98.3% Iranian + 1.7% Bantu_S.E. @ 4.16
9 97.2% Iranian + 2.8% Lithuanian @ 4.16
10 98.3% Iranian + 1.7% Bantu_S.W. @ 4.16
11 96.8% Iranian + 3.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.16
12 96.8% Iranian + 3.2% Southwest_Russian @ 4.16
13 97.1% Iranian + 2.9% Estonian_Polish @ 4.18
14 97% Iranian + 3% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.18
15 98.4% Iranian + 1.6% Mandenka @ 4.18
16 98.5% Iranian + 1.5% Yoruban @ 4.19
17 96.9% Iranian + 3.1% Ukrainian @ 4.19
18 97.1% Iranian + 2.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.19
19 97.2% Iranian + 2.8% Belorussian @ 4.2
20 97% Iranian + 3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.22
Half Persian half Qasghai
Eurogene K36
Arabian 5.44
Armenian 8.91
Central_African 0.27
East_Central_Euro 0.99
East_Med 14.65
Eastern_Euro 2.83
Near_Eastern 20.03
North_Atlantic 0.74
North_Caucasian 10.95
South_Asian 0.40
South_Central_Asian 27.34
West_African 0.94
West_Caucasian 6.47
HarappaWorld
1 Caucasian 36.46
2 Baloch 27.18
3 SW-Asian 13.7
4 NE-Euro 6.68
5 S-Indian 5.25
6 Mediterranean 4.8
7 E-African 1.52
8 W-African 1.35
9 American 0.75
10 San 0.72
11 Beringian 0.69
12 Siberian 0.48
13 Papuan 0.42
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.9% iranian (behar) + 8.1% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.18
2 95.9% iranian (behar) + 4.1% lithuanian (behar) @ 2.38
3 95.2% iranian (behar) + 4.8% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.4
4 95.5% iranian (behar) + 4.5% russian (hgdp) @ 2.4
5 88.6% iranian (behar) + 11.4% pashtun (harappa) @ 2.41
6 96.3% iranian (behar) + 3.7% finnish (1000genomes) @ 2.45
7 95.5% iranian (behar) + 4.5% belorussian (behar) @ 2.46
8 95.5% iranian (behar) + 4.5% russian (behar) @ 2.48
9 95.2% iranian (behar) + 4.8% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 2.5
10 88.2% iranian (behar) + 11.8% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 2.53
11 92.5% iranian (behar) + 7.5% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 2.55
12 95% iranian (behar) + 5% chuvash (behar) @ 2.56
13 95.6% iranian (behar) + 4.4% orcadian (hgdp) @ 2.58
14 95.4% iranian (behar) + 4.6% n-european (xing) @ 2.59
15 95.4% iranian (behar) + 4.6% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 2.59
16 93.7% iranian (behar) + 6.3% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.6
17 92.2% iranian (behar) + 7.8% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 2.62
18 94.9% iranian (behar) + 5.1% slovenian (xing) @ 2.62
19 95.5% iranian (behar) + 4.5% british (1000genomes) @ 2.64
20 95.5% iranian (behar) + 4.5% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 2.64
Dodecad K12
1 Caucasus 35.66
2 Gedrosia 26.55
3 Southwest_Asian 14.09
4 North_European 8.17
5 South_Asian 6.03
6 Atlantic_Med 4.64
7 Sub_Saharan 2.21
8 Siberian 1.03
9 East_African 1.02
10 Northwest_African 0.6
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 27.4% Pathan (HGDP) @ 3.68
2 93.1% Iranians (Behar) + 6.9% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.07
3 92.7% Iranians (Behar) + 7.3% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.08
4 93.7% Iranians (Behar) + 6.3% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 4.13
5 93.1% Iranians (Behar) + 6.9% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.13
6 93.3% Iranians (Behar) + 6.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.14
7 92.9% Iranians (Behar) + 7.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.15
8 93% Iranians (Behar) + 7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.16
9 94.1% Iranians (Behar) + 5.9% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 4.18
10 77% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 23% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 4.19
11 94.2% Iranians (Behar) + 5.8% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 4.23
12 94.1% Iranians (Behar) + 5.9% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.25
13 93.2% Iranians (Behar) + 6.8% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.28
14 75% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 25% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.33
15 92.7% Iranians (Behar) + 7.3% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.36
16 90.2% Iranians (Behar) + 9.8% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.53
17 63.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 36.2% Pathan (HGDP) @ 4.53
18 89.9% Iranians (Behar) + 10.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.55
19 87.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 12.9% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 4.57
20 90.4% Iranians (Behar) + 9.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.6
MDLP K23b
1 Caucasian 33.36
2 South_Central_Asian 27.28
3 Near_East 11.56
4 South_Indian 6.34
5 European_Early_Farmers 4.87
6 European_Hunters_Gatherers 3.77
7 North_African 3.74
8 Ancestral_Altaic 2.92
9 Subsaharian 2.26
10 Australoid 1.32
11 Arctic 0.94
12 Khoisan 0.41
13 Archaic_African 0.32
14 East_African 0.31
15 Tungus-Altaic 0.25
16 Amerindian 0.2
17 East_Siberian 0.09
18 Archaic_Human 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian ( ) 5.17
2 Kurd_South ( ) 7
3 Kurd_East ( ) 8.74
4 Kurd ( ) 12.25
5 Kurd_North ( ) 12.56
6 Azeri ( ) 13.11
7 Iraki ( ) 14.02
8 Ain_Touta_WGA ( ) 15.73
9 Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) 16.18
10 Baku_WGA ( ) 16.25
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.8% Iranian ( ) + 12.2% Adygei ( ) @ 2.33
2 91.4% Iranian ( ) + 8.6% Abkhasian ( ) @ 2.34
3 88.4% Iranian ( ) + 11.6% North_Ossetian ( ) @ 2.37
4 92% Iranian ( ) + 8% Georgian_Svan ( ) @ 2.37
5 86.1% Iranian ( ) + 13.9% Chechen ( ) @ 2.38
6 85% Iranian ( ) + 15% Kumyk ( ) @ 2.38
7 92.4% Iranian ( ) + 7.6% Georgian_Tbilisi ( ) @ 2.39
8 91.6% Iranian ( ) + 8.4% Georgian ( ) @ 2.39
9 92% Iranian ( ) + 8% Georgian_Megrelia ( ) @ 2.39
10 88.8% Iranian ( ) + 11.2% Ossetian ( ) @ 2.4
11 88.3% Iranian ( ) + 11.7% Balkar ( ) @ 2.4
12 91.7% Iranian ( ) + 8.3% Adjara ( ) @ 2.41
13 86.4% Iranian ( ) + 13.6% Kabardin ( ) @ 2.41
14 92.5% Iranian ( ) + 7.5% Georgian_Imereti ( ) @ 2.42
15 85.7% Iranian ( ) + 14.3% Cirkassian ( ) @ 2.46
16 93% Iranian ( ) + 7% Georgian_Laz ( ) @ 2.47
17 88.5% Iranian ( ) + 11.5% Circassian ( ) @ 2.47
18 90.3% Iranian ( ) + 9.7% Kakheti ( ) @ 2.49
19 82% Iranian ( ) + 18% Azeri_Dagestan ( ) @ 2.52
20 91.4% Iranian ( ) + 8.6% Turk_Trabzon ( ) @ 2.6
Eurogene K15
1 East_Med 31.64
2 West_Asian 31.29
3 South_Asian 12.28
4 Eastern_Euro 7.98
5 Red_Sea 5.15
6 Baltic 4.03
7 Sub-Saharan 2.51
8 Atlantic 2.32
9 West_Med 1.13
10 Amerindian 0.8
11 Northeast_African 0.65
12 Oceanian 0.22
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95% Iranian + 5% MA-1 @ 3.65
2 96.8% Iranian + 3.2% Erzya @ 4.14
3 98.1% Iranian + 1.9% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 4.15
4 98.1% Iranian + 1.9% Bantu_N.E. @ 4.15
5 98.2% Iranian + 1.8% Biaka_Pygmy @ 4.15
6 98.1% Iranian + 1.9% Luhya @ 4.15
7 98% Iranian + 2% San @ 4.16
8 98.3% Iranian + 1.7% Bantu_S.E. @ 4.16
9 97.2% Iranian + 2.8% Lithuanian @ 4.16
10 98.3% Iranian + 1.7% Bantu_S.W. @ 4.16
11 96.8% Iranian + 3.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.16
12 96.8% Iranian + 3.2% Southwest_Russian @ 4.16
13 97.1% Iranian + 2.9% Estonian_Polish @ 4.18
14 97% Iranian + 3% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.18
15 98.4% Iranian + 1.6% Mandenka @ 4.18
16 98.5% Iranian + 1.5% Yoruban @ 4.19
17 96.9% Iranian + 3.1% Ukrainian @ 4.19
18 97.1% Iranian + 2.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.19
19 97.2% Iranian + 2.8% Belorussian @ 4.2
20 97% Iranian + 3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.22
I would have expected Qashqai to be closer to Azeris than persians. But doesn't look like it from this result.
Half Persian half Qasghai
Strange results. The Qashqais are supposedly Turkic and this person is barely Mongoloid but 3% black.
Iran Chalcolithic
Ydna: J2a-M410
Dodecad k12b
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 50.79
2 Gedrosia 34.58
3 Southwest_Asian 14.63
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 12.87
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 13.32
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 13.92
4 Iranians (Behar) 15.22
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 16.67
6 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 17.16
7 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 17.57
8 Assyrian (Dodecad) 17.9
9 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 18.08
10 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 18.37
11 Armenian (Dodecad) 19.61
12 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 20.81
13 Armenians (Behar) 21.89
14 Turks (Behar) 22.89
15 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 25.43
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 25.65
17 Lezgins (Behar) 26.65
18 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 26.91
19 Druze (HGDP) 27.62
20 Lebanese (Behar) 27.83
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.6% Iranians (Behar) + 26.4% Georgians (Behar) @ 11.29
2 79.8% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 20.2% Brahui (HGDP) @ 11.51
3 77.8% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 22.2% Balochi (HGDP) @ 11.55
4 76.8% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 23.2% Makrani (HGDP) @ 11.6
5 81.3% Kurd (Dodecad) + 18.7% Georgians (Behar) @ 11.61
6 84.6% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 15.4% Georgians (Behar) @ 11.8
7 73.4% Iranians (Behar) + 26.6% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 11.84
8 82.1% Kurd (Dodecad) + 17.9% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 12.01
9 85.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 14.3% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 12.11
10 61.9% Georgians (Behar) + 38.1% Makrani (HGDP) @ 12.22
11 75.1% Armenians (Behar) + 24.9% Brahui (HGDP) @ 12.22
12 71.6% Armenians (Behar) + 28.4% Makrani (HGDP) @ 12.27
13 81.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 18.7% Georgians (Behar) @ 12.32
14 72.9% Armenians (Behar) + 27.1% Balochi (HGDP) @ 12.32
15 76.2% Armenian (Dodecad) + 23.8% Balochi (HGDP) @ 12.43
16 66.1% Georgians (Behar) + 33.9% Brahui (HGDP) @ 12.45
17 78.3% Armenian (Dodecad) + 21.7% Brahui (HGDP) @ 12.45
18 80.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 19.5% Balochi (HGDP) @ 12.47
19 75.2% Armenian (Dodecad) + 24.8% Makrani (HGDP) @ 12.49
20 82.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 17.6% Brahui (HGDP) @ 12.57
Iran Late Medieval
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.23
2 Gedrosia 26.23
3 Southwest_Asian 14.29
4 North_European 9.46
5 Atlantic_Med 5.9
6 South_Asian 1.29
7 Northwest_African 0.38
8 Sub_Saharan 0.13
9 Siberian 0.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 3.31
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 4.87
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 5.67
4 Iranians (Behar) 8.7
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 8.87
6 Turks (Behar) 12.78
7 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 14.18
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 14.41
9 Assyrian (Dodecad) 14.99
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 15.01
11 Turkish (Dodecad) 15.24
12 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 15.44
13 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 16.31
14 Armenian (Dodecad) 16.54
15 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 16.78
16 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 18.12
17 Lebanese (Behar) 18.97
18 Lezgins (Behar) 19.45
19 Armenians (Behar) 19.64
20 Syrians (Behar) 21.03
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4.3% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.88
2 96.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.7% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 1.9
3 96.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.9% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.9
4 96% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.9
5 96.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.5% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 1.93
6 95.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4.1% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.96
7 96.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.9% Russian (Dodecad) @ 1.99
8 96% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.03
9 96% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.05
10 96.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.8% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.08
11 96.8% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.2% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.12
12 96.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.3% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.15
13 93.8% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.16
14 94.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 5.9% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.19
15 94.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 5.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.2
16 95.6% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.3
17 96.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.6% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 2.46
18 88% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 12% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.47
19 91% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 9% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.54
20 96.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.6% German (Dodecad) @ 2.57
Hadouken's results for comparison (Zaza from Tunceli, Turkey).
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Dersim_in_Turkey.svg/640px-Dersim_in_Turkey.svg.png
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 36.06
2 East_Med 30.76
3 West_Med 8.27
4 South_Asian 6.84
5 Red_Sea 6.06
6 North_Atlantic 4.67
7 Baltic 2.74
8 Sub-Saharan 1.29
9 Siberian 1.29
10 East_Asian 1.21
11 Amerindian 0.82
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Azeri 4.05
2 Kurdish 4.87
3 Iranian 6.25
4 Armenian 7.54
5 Turkish 7.58
6 Georgian_Jewish 7.94
7 Assyrian 9.88
8 Iranian_Jewish 12.29
9 Kurdish_Jewish 12.78
10 Kumyk 15.67
11 Lebanese_Muslim 15.98
12 Turkmen 17.02
13 Georgian 17.02
14 Syrian 17.03
15 Adygei 18.28
16 Abhkasian 18.51
17 Balkar 19.44
18 Ossetian 19.85
19 Cyprian 20.27
20 Kabardin 20.71
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.2% Kurdish + 13.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.94
2 85.3% Kurdish + 14.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.02
3 85.6% Kurdish + 14.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.09
4 86.4% Kurdish + 13.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.13
5 67.9% Azeri + 32.1% Armenian @ 2.19
6 86% Kurdish + 14% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.22
7 89.8% Kurdish + 10.2% Tunisian @ 2.26
8 82.4% Kurdish + 17.6% Cyprian @ 2.3
9 90.2% Kurdish + 9.8% Algerian @ 2.4
10 85.7% Kurdish + 14.3% South_Italian @ 2.42
11 90.5% Kurdish + 9.5% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.43
12 63.1% Kurdish + 36.9% Turkish @ 2.47
13 86.6% Kurdish + 13.4% Ashkenazi @ 2.48
14 79% Kurdish + 21% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.48
15 70.4% Azeri + 29.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.53
16 80.3% Kurdish + 19.7% Syrian @ 2.58
17 90.8% Kurdish + 9.2% Moroccan @ 2.64
18 86.3% Kurdish + 13.7% East_Sicilian @ 2.64
19 88% Kurdish + 12% West_Sicilian @ 2.66
20 55.7% Iranian + 44.3% Turkish @ 2.75
Hadouken has asked me from beyond his ban to add that he is only part Zaza (the rest is Kurmanji) :D
Iran Chalcolithic
Ydna: J2a-M410
He totally lacks any white, Mongoloid and black admixture.
Annihilus
08-17-2019, 05:31 PM
He totally lacks any white, Mongoloid and black admixture.
True causasus isn't white (euro), he is pure asian
He totally lacks any white, Mongoloid and black admixture.
Iran Late Neolithic
Kit M937770
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 61.52
2 Caucasus 29.82
3 Southwest_Asian 7.75
4 South_Asian 0.91
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Makrani (HGDP) 23.28
2 Balochi (HGDP) 24.66
3 Brahui (HGDP) 29.39
4 Iranians (Behar) 30.28
5 Iranian (Dodecad) 32.73
6 Kurd (Dodecad) 32.96
7 Pathan (HGDP) 33.54
8 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 34.07
9 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 34.41
10 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 34.97
11 Burusho (HGDP) 37.49
12 Sindhi (HGDP) 38.53
13 Lezgins (Behar) 40.87
14 Jatt (Dodecad) 41.2
15 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 42.25
16 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 44.85
17 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 45.42
18 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 45.68
19 Assyrian (Dodecad) 46.35
20 Turks (Behar) 46.71
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.9% Brahui (HGDP) + 32.1% Georgians (Behar) @ 12.45
2 67.2% Brahui (HGDP) + 32.8% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 13.07
3 73.2% Balochi (HGDP) + 26.8% Georgians (Behar) @ 13.67
4 72.6% Balochi (HGDP) + 27.4% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 14.18
5 75.3% Makrani (HGDP) + 24.7% Georgians (Behar) @ 14.46
6 74.9% Makrani (HGDP) + 25.1% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 14.88
7 65.9% Brahui (HGDP) + 34.1% Armenians (Behar) @ 15.63
8 71.9% Balochi (HGDP) + 28.1% Armenians (Behar) @ 15.97
9 64.3% Brahui (HGDP) + 35.7% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 16.02
10 66.6% Brahui (HGDP) + 33.4% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 16.17
11 70.4% Balochi (HGDP) + 29.6% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 16.23
12 66.4% Brahui (HGDP) + 33.6% Adygei (HGDP) @ 16.27
13 65.1% Brahui (HGDP) + 34.9% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 16.36
14 67% Brahui (HGDP) + 33% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 16.38
15 55.1% Brahui (HGDP) + 44.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 16.44
16 71.3% Balochi (HGDP) + 28.7% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 16.47
17 62% Balochi (HGDP) + 38% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 16.55
18 54% Brahui (HGDP) + 46% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 16.64
19 72.8% Balochi (HGDP) + 27.2% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 16.64
20 72.7% Balochi (HGDP) + 27.3% Adygei (HGDP) @ 16.71
Babak
08-17-2019, 05:48 PM
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Arhat
08-18-2019, 06:18 PM
Iran Chalcolithic
Ydna: J2a-M410
Dodecad k12b
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 50.79
2 Gedrosia 34.58
3 Southwest_Asian 14.63
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 12.87
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 13.32
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 13.92
4 Iranians (Behar) 15.22
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 16.67
6 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 17.16
7 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 17.57
8 Assyrian (Dodecad) 17.9
9 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 18.08
10 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 18.37
11 Armenian (Dodecad) 19.61
12 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 20.81
13 Armenians (Behar) 21.89
14 Turks (Behar) 22.89
15 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 25.43
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 25.65
17 Lezgins (Behar) 26.65
18 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 26.91
19 Druze (HGDP) 27.62
20 Lebanese (Behar) 27.83
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.6% Iranians (Behar) + 26.4% Georgians (Behar) @ 11.29
2 79.8% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 20.2% Brahui (HGDP) @ 11.51
3 77.8% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 22.2% Balochi (HGDP) @ 11.55
4 76.8% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 23.2% Makrani (HGDP) @ 11.6
5 81.3% Kurd (Dodecad) + 18.7% Georgians (Behar) @ 11.61
6 84.6% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 15.4% Georgians (Behar) @ 11.8
7 73.4% Iranians (Behar) + 26.6% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 11.84
8 82.1% Kurd (Dodecad) + 17.9% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 12.01
9 85.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 14.3% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 12.11
10 61.9% Georgians (Behar) + 38.1% Makrani (HGDP) @ 12.22
11 75.1% Armenians (Behar) + 24.9% Brahui (HGDP) @ 12.22
12 71.6% Armenians (Behar) + 28.4% Makrani (HGDP) @ 12.27
13 81.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 18.7% Georgians (Behar) @ 12.32
14 72.9% Armenians (Behar) + 27.1% Balochi (HGDP) @ 12.32
15 76.2% Armenian (Dodecad) + 23.8% Balochi (HGDP) @ 12.43
16 66.1% Georgians (Behar) + 33.9% Brahui (HGDP) @ 12.45
17 78.3% Armenian (Dodecad) + 21.7% Brahui (HGDP) @ 12.45
18 80.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 19.5% Balochi (HGDP) @ 12.47
19 75.2% Armenian (Dodecad) + 24.8% Makrani (HGDP) @ 12.49
20 82.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 17.6% Brahui (HGDP) @ 12.57
Iran Late Medieval
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.23
2 Gedrosia 26.23
3 Southwest_Asian 14.29
4 North_European 9.46
5 Atlantic_Med 5.9
6 South_Asian 1.29
7 Northwest_African 0.38
8 Sub_Saharan 0.13
9 Siberian 0.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 3.31
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 4.87
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 5.67
4 Iranians (Behar) 8.7
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 8.87
6 Turks (Behar) 12.78
7 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 14.18
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 14.41
9 Assyrian (Dodecad) 14.99
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 15.01
11 Turkish (Dodecad) 15.24
12 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 15.44
13 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 16.31
14 Armenian (Dodecad) 16.54
15 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 16.78
16 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 18.12
17 Lebanese (Behar) 18.97
18 Lezgins (Behar) 19.45
19 Armenians (Behar) 19.64
20 Syrians (Behar) 21.03
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4.3% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.88
2 96.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.7% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 1.9
3 96.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.9% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.9
4 96% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.9
5 96.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.5% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 1.93
6 95.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4.1% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.96
7 96.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.9% Russian (Dodecad) @ 1.99
8 96% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.03
9 96% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.05
10 96.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.8% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.08
11 96.8% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.2% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.12
12 96.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.3% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.15
13 93.8% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.16
14 94.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 5.9% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.19
15 94.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 5.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.2
16 95.6% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.3
17 96.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.6% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 2.46
18 88% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 12% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.47
19 91% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 9% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.54
20 96.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.6% German (Dodecad) @ 2.57
Calculators based on modern pops should not used for ancient populations. Iran_Chalcolithic was a mix of Iran_Neo + EEF. The results shown here are very inaccurate and Kurds have too much steppe ancestry to be a copy of them.
Calculators based on modern pops should not used for ancient populations. Iran_Chalcolithic was a mix of Iran_Neo + EEF. The results shown here are very inaccurate and Kurds have too much steppe ancestry to be a copy of them.
Well, the distance to Kurds is still quite big (12 points). I think that's the kind of ancestry Central Asians have although it lacks the South Asian.
Calculators based on modern pops should not used for ancient populations. Iran_Chalcolithic was a mix of Iran_Neo + EEF. The results shown here are very inaccurate and Kurds have too much steppe ancestry to be a copy of them.
This result looks exactly like Iran_Neo + Anatolian. Other results show a bit of Atlantic_med shift but not much. The distance to kurds is still very big (12).
The one that is close to Kurds is a medieval iranian result not Chalcolithic.
hussein khan
08-21-2019, 04:34 PM
You always wanted to see results of heratis, babak.
Here are what i assume are heratis:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 27.82
2 Caucasian 22.25
3 NE-Euro 14.4
4 S-Indian 10.41
5 SW-Asian 6.59
6 NE-Asian 6.1
7 Siberian 4.77
8 Mediterranean 4.18
9 American 1.99
10 San 0.55
11 Papuan 0.54
12 W-African 0.39
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 tajik (yunusbayev) 7.11
2 turkmen (yunusbayev) 9.92
3 pashtun (harappa) 12.38
4 pathan (hgdp) 19.91
5 iranian (harappa) 20.62
6 kalash (hgdp) 20.63
7 romanian-b (behar) 20.85
8 burusho (hgdp) 20.97
9 iranian (behar) 21.13
10 stalskoe (xing) 21.4
11 uzbek (behar) 21.9
12 sindhi (harappa) 22.16
13 kurd (harappa) 22.22
14 nogai (yunusbayev) 22.28
15 haryana-jatt (harappa) 22.53
16 kashmiri (harappa) 22.68
17 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 22.72
18 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 23.73
19 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 24.1
20 bhatia (harappa) 24.2
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.8% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 29.2% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.84
2 77.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 22.1% romanian-b (behar) @ 4.1
3 87.4% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.6% yemenese (behar) @ 4.52
4 90.4% tajik (yunusbayev) + 9.6% yemen-jew (behar) @ 4.52
5 88.3% tajik (yunusbayev) + 11.7% egypt (henn2012) @ 4.63
6 87.6% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.4% palestinian (hgdp) @ 4.68
7 88.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 11.5% egyptian (behar) @ 4.69
8 91.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 8.9% saudi (behar) @ 4.72
9 90.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 9.1% bedouin (hgdp) @ 4.76
10 90.4% tajik (yunusbayev) + 9.6% qatari (henn2012) @ 4.8
11 83.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 16.8% bene-israel-jew (behar) @ 4.8
12 87% tajik (yunusbayev) + 13% jordanian (behar) @ 4.82
13 89.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 10.8% samaritian (behar) @ 4.89
14 86.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 13.9% syrian (behar) @ 4.9
15 83.3% tajik (yunusbayev) + 16.7% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 4.91
16 53.6% burusho (hgdp) + 46.4% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 4.93
17 86% tajik (yunusbayev) + 14% palestinian (harappa) @ 5.05
18 73.1% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 26.9% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 5.06
19 86.7% tajik (yunusbayev) + 13.3% lebanese (behar) @ 5.07
20 76.7% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 23.3% nepalese-a (xing)
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 31.74
2 Caucasian 23.57
3 NE-Euro 14.27
4 S-Indian 9.09
5 SW-Asian 7.46
6 NE-Asian 3.19
7 Mediterranean 2.8
8 Siberian 2.4
9 American 1.94
10 Beringian 1.31
11 Papuan 0.74
12 W-African 0.6
13 SE-Asian 0.5
14 E-African 0.4
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 tajik (yunusbayev) 7.7
2 pashtun (harappa) 11.09
3 turkmen (yunusbayev) 11.55
4 pathan (hgdp) 18.34
5 kalash (hgdp) 18.43
6 iranian (harappa) 19.03
7 iranian (behar) 19.29
8 stalskoe (xing) 20.58
9 burusho (hgdp) 20.75
10 kurd (harappa) 20.78
11 sindhi (harappa) 21.08
12 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 21.86
13 haryana-jatt (harappa) 22.32
14 bhatia (harappa) 22.58
15 kashmiri (harappa) 22.59
16 urkarah (xing) 22.84
17 kurd (xing) 23
18 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 23.09
19 romanian-b (behar) 23.37
20 kurd (yunusbayev) 23.5
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.3% tajik (yunusbayev) + 23.7% iranian (behar) @ 5.08
2 81.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 18.1% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 5.3
3 85.6% tajik (yunusbayev) + 14.4% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 5.59
4 90.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 9.2% yemen-jew (behar) @ 5.6
5 79.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 20.8% kurd (harappa) @ 5.61
6 91.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 8.8% saudi (behar) @ 5.62
7 87.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.1% yemenese (behar) @ 5.63
8 85.4% tajik (yunusbayev) + 14.6% palestinian (harappa) @ 5.65
9 86% tajik (yunusbayev) + 14% syrian (behar) @ 5.68
10 90.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 9.5% qatari (henn2012) @ 5.7
11 86.7% tajik (yunusbayev) + 13.3% iraq-jew (behar) @ 5.71
12 84.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 15.9% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 5.73
13 86.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 13.5% iranian-jew (behar) @ 5.75
14 91.3% tajik (yunusbayev) + 8.7% bedouin (hgdp) @ 5.81
15 87.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.5% jordanian (behar) @ 5.82
16 89.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 10.2% samaritian (behar) @ 5.93
17 51.4% pashtun (harappa) + 48.6% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 5.98
18 65.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 34.1% pashtun (harappa) @ 5.99
19 68.6% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 31.4% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 6.02
20 87.3% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.7% lebanese (behar) @ 6.03
hussein khan
08-21-2019, 04:36 PM
some more....
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 32.05
2 Caucasian 22.37
3 NE-Euro 14.47
4 S-Indian 10.49
5 NE-Asian 5.39
6 SW-Asian 5.13
7 Mediterranean 3.44
8 Siberian 2.04
9 American 1.78
10 Beringian 1.08
11 Papuan 1.02
12 W-African 0.4
13 E-African 0.29
14 San 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 tajik (yunusbayev) 6.22
2 pashtun (harappa) 10.09
3 turkmen (yunusbayev) 12.34
4 pathan (hgdp) 16.92
5 kalash (hgdp) 17.14
6 burusho (hgdp) 18.48
7 sindhi (harappa) 19.7
8 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 20.41
9 haryana-jatt (harappa) 20.52
10 kashmiri (harappa) 20.83
11 iranian (harappa) 21.05
12 bhatia (harappa) 21.09
13 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 21.49
14 iranian (behar) 21.63
15 stalskoe (xing) 21.83
16 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 22.85
17 kurd (harappa) 22.93
18 romanian-b (behar) 23.25
19 urkarah (xing) 23.99
20 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 24.11
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 15.8% bene-israel-jew (behar) @ 3.81
2 65.7% tajik (yunusbayev) + 34.3% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.87
3 84.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 15.5% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 4.44
4 89% tajik (yunusbayev) + 11% cochin-jew (behar) @ 4.56
5 82.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 17.1% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 4.69
6 63.7% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 36.3% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 4.75
7 83.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 16.5% kashmiri (harappa) @ 4.75
8 84.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 15.1% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 4.78
9 82.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 17.2% sindhi (harappa) @ 4.79
10 86.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 13.5% up-muslim (harappa) @ 4.86
11 91.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 8.9% kerala-christian (harappa) @ 4.91
12 86.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 13.5% punjabi (harappa) @ 4.92
13 81.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 18.9% pathan (hgdp) @ 4.95
14 92.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 7.1% tamil-nadu-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 4.95
15 91.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 8.2% ap-hyderabad (harappa) @ 4.97
16 92.4% tajik (yunusbayev) + 7.6% karnataka (harappa) @ 4.99
17 92.7% tajik (yunusbayev) + 7.3% velama (reich) @ 4.99
18 86.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 13.5% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 5
19 92.3% tajik (yunusbayev) + 7.7% andhra-pradesh (harappa) @ 5
20 93.3% tajik (yunusbayev) + 6.7% naidu (reich) @ 5.01
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 30.33
2 Caucasian 24.7
3 NE-Euro 11.56
4 S-Indian 9.77
5 SW-Asian 5.72
6 Mediterranean 5.4
7 Siberian 4.83
8 NE-Asian 4.83
9 American 1.23
10 W-African 0.91
11 Papuan 0.45
12 SE-Asian 0.18
13 E-African 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 tajik (yunusbayev) 7.72
2 turkmen (yunusbayev) 8.68
3 pashtun (harappa) 12.06
4 iranian (harappa) 17.91
5 iranian (behar) 18.58
6 pathan (hgdp) 19.3
7 kalash (hgdp) 19.4
8 kurd (harappa) 19.73
9 stalskoe (xing) 20.56
10 burusho (hgdp) 21.03
11 romanian-b (behar) 21.71
12 sindhi (harappa) 21.8
13 kurd (xing) 22.39
14 turkish (harappa) 22.48
15 kurd (yunusbayev) 22.63
16 kashmiri (harappa) 22.65
17 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 22.66
18 azeri (harappa) 22.75
19 nogai (yunusbayev) 22.94
20 haryana-jatt (harappa) 23.5
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.3% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 25.7% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.21
2 74.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 25.5% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.3
3 74.8% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 25.2% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.34
4 70.4% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 29.6% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.36
5 77.8% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 22.2% sindhi (hgdp) @ 3.74
6 77.8% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 22.2% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 3.77
7 59.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 40.5% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.83
8 71% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 29% kalash (hgdp) @ 3.87
9 73.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 26.5% sindhi (harappa) @ 3.9
10 74.3% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 25.7% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 3.94
11 78.6% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 21.4% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 4.03
12 79.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 20.8% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 4.03
13 78.4% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 21.6% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 4.06
14 78.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 21.1% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 4.16
15 77.4% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 22.6% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 4.31
16 76.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 23.5% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 4.35
17 77.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 22.1% punjabi (harappa) @ 4.36
18 79.3% tajik (yunusbayev) + 20.7% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 4.38
19 74% tajik (yunusbayev) + 26% iranian (behar) @ 4.41
20 79.6% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 20.4% nepalese-a (xing) @ 4.42
hussein khan
08-21-2019, 04:41 PM
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 28.68
2 Caucasian 24.77
3 NE-Euro 13.1
4 S-Indian 9.02
5 SW-Asian 5.59
6 NE-Asian 5.11
7 Siberian 4.57
8 Mediterranean 3.75
9 American 2.18
10 W-African 1.43
11 Beringian 1.39
12 Papuan 0.42
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 tajik (yunusbayev) 7.04
2 turkmen (yunusbayev) 8.17
3 pashtun (harappa) 12.72
4 iranian (harappa) 18.16
5 iranian (behar) 18.96
6 stalskoe (xing) 19.26
7 kurd (harappa) 19.98
8 pathan (hgdp) 20.44
9 kalash (hgdp) 20.49
10 nogai (yunusbayev) 21.36
11 romanian-b (behar) 21.75
12 burusho (hgdp) 21.97
13 turkish (harappa) 22.35
14 azeri (harappa) 22.41
15 urkarah (xing) 22.45
16 kurd (xing) 22.58
17 kurd (yunusbayev) 22.8
18 sindhi (harappa) 22.94
19 uzbek (behar) 23.13
20 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 23.19
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 24% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.18
2 80.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 19.8% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 3.53
3 83.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 16.1% syrian (behar) @ 3.71
4 84.4% tajik (yunusbayev) + 15.6% lebanese-muslim (haber) @ 3.79
5 85.6% tajik (yunusbayev) + 14.4% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 3.83
6 86% tajik (yunusbayev) + 14% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 3.86
7 87.7% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.3% samaritian (behar) @ 3.87
8 83.6% tajik (yunusbayev) + 16.4% palestinian (harappa) @ 3.87
9 87.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.2% druze (hgdp) @ 3.91
10 85.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 14.5% jordanian (behar) @ 3.92
11 76% tajik (yunusbayev) + 24% iranian (behar) @ 3.93
12 85% tajik (yunusbayev) + 15% iraq-jew (behar) @ 3.94
13 84.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 15.5% lebanese (behar) @ 3.95
14 84.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 15.9% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 3.96
15 77.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 22.5% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.97
16 62.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 37.1% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.97
17 84.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 15.2% iranian-jew (behar) @ 4.02
18 82.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 17.8% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 4.05
19 85.3% tajik (yunusbayev) + 14.7% georgia-jew (behar) @ 4.09
20 77.4% tajik (yunusbayev) + 22.6% kurd (harappa) @ 4.11
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 33.59
2 Caucasian 22.34
3 NE-Euro 11.67
4 S-Indian 11.05
5 SW-Asian 6.31
6 Siberian 5.68
7 NE-Asian 3.26
8 Mediterranean 2.84
9 E-African 1.04
10 American 0.87
11 Beringian 0.57
12 Papuan 0.52
13 W-African 0.25
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 tajik (yunusbayev) 8.03
2 pashtun (harappa) 9.03
3 turkmen (yunusbayev) 12.2
4 pathan (hgdp) 15.81
5 kalash (hgdp) 15.9
6 burusho (hgdp) 18
7 sindhi (harappa) 18.41
8 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 19.7
9 bhatia (harappa) 20.11
10 kashmiri (harappa) 20.13
11 iranian (harappa) 20.54
12 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 20.79
13 iranian (behar) 20.81
14 haryana-jatt (harappa) 20.83
15 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 21.87
16 kurd (harappa) 22.44
17 balochi (hgdp) 22.7
18 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 22.99
19 makrani (hgdp) 23.08
20 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 23.29
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 37.1% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.5
2 56.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 43.1% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.68
3 57.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 42.8% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.2
4 64.1% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 35.9% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 4.36
5 67.8% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 32.2% sindhi (hgdp) @ 4.43
6 59.1% pashtun (harappa) + 40.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 4.44
7 61.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 38.8% sindhi (harappa) @ 4.49
8 54.3% tajik (yunusbayev) + 45.7% pashtun (harappa) @ 4.73
9 54% balochi (hgdp) + 46% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 4.76
10 68.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 31.8% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 4.79
11 64.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 35.5% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 5
12 79.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 20.1% bene-israel-jew (behar) @ 5.02
13 63.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 36.8% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 5.18
14 70.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 29.5% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 5.46
15 69.6% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 30.4% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 5.49
16 61.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 38.8% burusho (hgdp) @ 5.53
17 69.4% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 30.6% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 5.54
18 79.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 20.5% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 5.59
19 70.1% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 29.9% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 5.68
20 66.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 33.8% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 5.69
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 32.98
2 Caucasian 25.33
3 NE-Euro 12.38
4 S-Indian 7.97
5 SW-Asian 5.7
6 Mediterranean 4.16
7 Siberian 2.93
8 NE-Asian 2.07
9 American 1.73
10 SE-Asian 1.51
11 Beringian 1.42
12 Papuan 0.83
13 W-African 0.61
14 Pygmy 0.22
15 E-African 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 tajik (yunusbayev) 8.29
2 turkmen (yunusbayev) 10.97
3 pashtun (harappa) 11.94
4 iranian (harappa) 17.41
5 iranian (behar) 18.04
6 kalash (hgdp) 18.3
7 pathan (hgdp) 18.81
8 kurd (harappa) 19.33
9 stalskoe (xing) 19.52
10 kurd (xing) 21.46
11 burusho (hgdp) 21.56
12 sindhi (harappa) 21.8
13 kurd (yunusbayev) 21.95
14 urkarah (xing) 21.98
15 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 22.68
16 lezgin (behar) 22.83
17 turkish (harappa) 22.99
18 azeri (harappa) 23.08
19 bhatia (harappa) 23.08
20 kashmiri (harappa) 23.37
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.6% tajik (yunusbayev) + 28.4% iranian (behar) @ 4.56
2 50.3% balochi (hgdp) + 49.7% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 4.89
3 73.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 26.1% kurd (harappa) @ 5.02
4 83.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 16.9% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 5.49
5 53.1% nogai (yunusbayev) + 46.9% brahui (hgdp) @ 5.58
6 50.3% makrani (hgdp) + 49.7% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 5.59
7 81.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 18.9% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 5.61
8 84.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 15.9% iranian-jew (behar) @ 5.67
9 65% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 35% kalash (hgdp) @ 5.68
10 80.4% tajik (yunusbayev) + 19.6% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 5.7
11 84.6% tajik (yunusbayev) + 15.4% iraq-jew (behar) @ 5.74
12 56.1% stalskoe (xing) + 43.9% balochi (hgdp) @ 5.76
13 84% tajik (yunusbayev) + 16% assyrian (harappa) @ 5.77
14 84.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 15.1% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 5.91
15 51.1% balochi (hgdp) + 48.9% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 5.91
16 70.8% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 29.2% bhatia (harappa) @ 5.98
17 85.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 14.8% georgia-jew (behar) @ 5.99
18 64.3% pashtun (harappa) + 35.7% stalskoe (xing) @ 6
19 66% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 34% pathan (hgdp) @ 6
20 58.9% kalash (hgdp) + 41.1% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 6.09
i guess theyre all siblings...
You always wanted to see results of heratis, babak.
Here are what i assume are heratis:
Can you post Eurogenes K13 too? At least 2-3 persons.
hussein khan
08-23-2019, 02:33 PM
Can you post Eurogenes K13 too? At least 2-3 persons.
Sure:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 38.26
2 South_Asian 19.39
3 East_Med 11.15
4 Baltic 11.14
5 North_Atlantic 6.9
6 Siberian 4.99
7 East_Asian 2.58
8 Amerindian 2.05
9 Red_Sea 1.84
10 Oceanian 0.9
11 Sub-Saharan 0.81
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Pashtun 7.09
2 Tadjik 7.61
3 Afghan_Tadjik 9.52
4 Turkmen 14.28
5 Tabassaran 16.54
6 Kumyk 16.73
7 Makrani 17.28
8 Lezgin 17.39
9 Chechen 17.43
10 Kalash 17.71
11 Kabardin 18.08
12 Burusho 18.88
13 Balkar 18.98
14 Pathan 19.04
15 Adygei 19.1
16 Balochi 19.33
17 North_Ossetian 19.61
18 Ossetian 19.86
19 Brahui 20.14
20 Iranian 20.88
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 31.2% Turkmen @ 3.2
2 72.9% Afghan_Pashtun + 27.1% Kumyk @ 3.68
3 77.6% Afghan_Pashtun + 22.4% Azeri @ 3.83
4 81% Afghan_Pashtun + 19% Turkish @ 4.05
5 55.8% Turkmen + 44.2% Kalash @ 4.22
6 78.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 21.5% Nogay @ 4.22
7 53.2% Kumyk + 46.8% Burusho @ 4.25
8 69.5% Makrani + 30.5% Tatar @ 4.28
9 84.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 15.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.38
10 70.6% Lezgin + 29.4% Bangladeshi @ 4.44
11 88.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 11.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.45
12 85.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 14.5% Assyrian @ 4.48
13 78.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 21.2% Iranian @ 4.49
14 79.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 20.2% Kurdish @ 4.53
15 77.2% Afghan_Pashtun + 22.8% Balkar @ 4.53
16 76.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 23.7% Kabardin @ 4.55
17 86.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 13.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.55
18 88.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 11.9% Jordanian @ 4.55
19 88.9% Afghan_Pashtun + 11.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.57
20 87.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 12.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.58
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 35.92
2 South_Asian 18.26
3 East_Med 10.72
4 Baltic 10.14
5 North_Atlantic 7.69
6 Siberian 6.05
7 East_Asian 4.56
8 Red_Sea 2.94
9 Amerindian 1.98
10 West_Med 0.76
11 Oceanian 0.61
12 Northeast_African 0.24
13 Sub-Saharan 0.14
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Tadjik 5.51
2 Afghan_Tadjik 7.05
3 Afghan_Pashtun 9.13
4 Turkmen 12.18
5 Kumyk 16.7
6 Tabassaran 17.55
7 Kabardin 18.09
8 Chechen 18.12
9 Lezgin 18.36
10 Nogay 18.81
11 Balkar 18.83
12 Makrani 19.44
13 Burusho 19.53
14 Adygei 19.64
15 Kalash 19.73
16 Ossetian 19.93
17 North_Ossetian 19.99
18 Azeri 20.27
19 Pathan 20.57
20 Iranian 21.06
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.9% Afghan_Pashtun + 42.1% Turkmen @ 3.3
2 82.5% Tadjik + 17.5% Iranian @ 3.3
3 84.1% Tadjik + 15.9% Kurdish @ 3.67
4 89.5% Tadjik + 10.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.89
5 88.5% Tadjik + 11.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.91
6 89.9% Tadjik + 10.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.94
7 62.7% Turkmen + 37.3% Kalash @ 3.96
8 89.4% Tadjik + 10.6% Assyrian @ 4.01
9 84.1% Tadjik + 15.9% Azeri @ 4.04
10 69.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 30.7% Nogay @ 4.15
11 89% Tadjik + 11% Armenian @ 4.16
12 84.6% Tadjik + 15.4% Makrani @ 4.3
13 92.6% Tadjik + 7.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.37
14 91.3% Tadjik + 8.7% Syrian @ 4.39
15 92.5% Tadjik + 7.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.41
16 92.2% Tadjik + 7.8% Jordanian @ 4.42
17 94.3% Tadjik + 5.7% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.43
18 91.5% Tadjik + 8.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.43
19 93.9% Tadjik + 6.1% Saudi @ 4.45
20 92.9% Tadjik + 7.1% Samaritan @ 4.45
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 40.45
2 South_Asian 17.94
3 East_Med 9.25
4 Baltic 9.05
5 North_Atlantic 8.86
6 Red_Sea 3.99
7 Siberian 3.93
8 East_Asian 2.47
9 Amerindian 2.44
10 Oceanian 1.05
11 Sub-Saharan 0.38
12 West_Med 0.21
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Pashtun 7.74
2 Tadjik 8.38
3 Afghan_Tadjik 11.33
4 Tabassaran 15.12
5 Turkmen 15.57
6 Chechen 16.22
7 Lezgin 16.35
8 Kumyk 16.38
9 Makrani 16.44
10 Kabardin 17.25
11 Balochi 17.97
12 Kalash 18.04
13 Ossetian 18.17
14 Balkar 18.18
15 Adygei 18.2
16 North_Ossetian 18.53
17 Brahui 18.89
18 Burusho 20.11
19 Pathan 20.45
20 Iranian 21.22
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 29.2% Kumyk @ 4.15
2 73.6% Afghan_Pashtun + 26.4% Ossetian @ 4.49
3 72.6% Afghan_Pashtun + 27.4% Kabardin @ 4.52
4 71.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 28.7% Chechen @ 4.54
5 73.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 26.3% Balkar @ 4.54
6 74.2% Afghan_Pashtun + 25.8% North_Ossetian @ 4.59
7 73.9% Afghan_Pashtun + 26.1% Adygei @ 4.61
8 71.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 28.2% Lezgin @ 4.71
9 70.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 29.5% Tabassaran @ 4.91
10 69.9% Tadjik + 30.1% Makrani @ 5
11 77.9% Afghan_Pashtun + 22.1% Azeri @ 5.04
12 79.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 20.3% Georgian @ 5.06
13 81.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 18.7% Turkish @ 5.22
14 79% Afghan_Pashtun + 21% Kurdish @ 5.29
15 72.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 27.7% Turkmen @ 5.33
16 55.6% Lezgin + 44.4% Burusho @ 5.35
17 81.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 18.5% Abhkasian @ 5.37
18 84.6% Afghan_Pashtun + 15.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.44
19 72.9% Tadjik + 27.1% Balochi @ 5.44
20 74.1% Tadjik + 25.9% Brahui @ 5.49
hussein khan
08-23-2019, 02:35 PM
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 36.96
2 South_Asian 18.06
3 East_Med 11.71
4 Baltic 9.01
5 Siberian 7.02
6 North_Atlantic 5.95
7 Red_Sea 2.68
8 Amerindian 2.42
9 East_Asian 2.14
10 West_Med 2.14
11 Sub-Saharan 1.32
12 Oceanian 0.61
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Tadjik 7.3
2 Afghan_Tadjik 7.75
3 Afghan_Pashtun 9.5
4 Turkmen 11.98
5 Kumyk 15.96
6 Kabardin 17.3
7 Tabassaran 17.68
8 Balkar 17.87
9 Chechen 17.88
10 Makrani 18.1
11 Lezgin 18.23
12 Adygei 18.57
13 Ossetian 18.89
14 North_Ossetian 19.03
15 Azeri 19.16
16 Nogay 19.33
17 Iranian 19.48
18 Kalash 19.91
19 Burusho 20.03
20 Kurdish 20.55
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 43.5% Turkmen @ 3.57
2 63.3% Turkmen + 36.7% Kalash @ 3.91
3 75.7% Tadjik + 24.3% Iranian @ 3.96
4 77.6% Tadjik + 22.4% Kurdish @ 4.46
5 73.2% Afghan_Pashtun + 26.8% Turkish @ 4.81
6 83.9% Tadjik + 16.1% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.85
7 56.1% Kumyk + 43.9% Burusho @ 4.96
8 83.8% Tadjik + 16.2% Armenian @ 4.99
9 69.6% Afghan_Pashtun + 30.4% Azeri @ 5
10 85.7% Tadjik + 14.3% Iranian_Jewish @ 5.02
11 85.3% Tadjik + 14.7% Assyrian @ 5.05
12 86.2% Tadjik + 13.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.07
13 78.2% Tadjik + 21.8% Azeri @ 5.17
14 77.4% Tadjik + 22.6% Makrani @ 5.26
15 70.2% Afghan_Pashtun + 29.8% Nogay @ 5.3
16 68.5% Makrani + 31.5% Tatar @ 5.34
17 77.1% Afghan_Tadjik + 22.9% Iranian @ 5.41
18 83.6% Tadjik + 16.4% Abhkasian @ 5.45
19 75.4% Afghan_Tadjik + 24.6% Tabassaran @ 5.48
20 76.1% Afghan_Tadjik + 23.9% Lezgin @ 5.5
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 39.05
2 South_Asian 17.38
3 East_Med 13.85
4 North_Atlantic 8.47
5 Baltic 8.16
6 Siberian 4.15
7 Red_Sea 2.96
8 Amerindian 2.44
9 East_Asian 1.89
10 Sub-Saharan 0.82
11 Oceanian 0.7
12 West_Med 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Tadjik 9.52
2 Afghan_Pashtun 9.72
3 Afghan_Tadjik 11.41
4 Turkmen 12.7
5 Kumyk 14.78
6 Tabassaran 15.3
7 Lezgin 15.9
8 Chechen 16.18
9 Kabardin 16.95
10 Makrani 16.99
11 Adygei 17.26
12 Balkar 17.5
13 Iranian 17.72
14 Ossetian 17.78
15 Azeri 17.85
16 North_Ossetian 18.09
17 Kurdish 18.55
18 Balochi 19.82
19 Kalash 20.38
20 Brahui 20.51
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.9% Afghan_Pashtun + 34.1% Azeri @ 3.5
2 67.2% Afghan_Pashtun + 32.8% Kurdish @ 4.11
3 71.6% Afghan_Pashtun + 28.4% Turkish @ 4.33
4 66.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 33.6% Iranian @ 4.35
5 75.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 24.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.43
6 77.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 22.6% Assyrian @ 4.59
7 78.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 21.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.64
8 75.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 24.5% Armenian @ 4.74
9 58.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 41.9% Turkmen @ 4.77
10 78.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 21.7% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.78
11 82% Afghan_Pashtun + 18% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.81
12 62.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 37.6% Kumyk @ 4.87
13 67.6% Tadjik + 32.4% Iranian @ 4.88
14 80.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 19.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.02
15 69% Tadjik + 31% Kurdish @ 5.13
16 83.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 16.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.14
17 82.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 17.2% Palestinian @ 5.23
18 82% Afghan_Pashtun + 18% Jordanian @ 5.25
19 80.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 19.7% Syrian @ 5.25
20 83.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 16.5% Samaritan @ 5.4
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 41.77
2 South_Asian 20.93
3 East_Med 9.62
4 North_Atlantic 7.59
5 Baltic 7.45
6 Siberian 7.19
7 Red_Sea 2.06
8 East_Asian 1.86
9 Sub-Saharan 0.76
10 Amerindian 0.68
11 Northeast_African 0.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Pashtun 6.54
2 Tadjik 8.56
3 Afghan_Tadjik 10.19
4 Makrani 14.55
5 Turkmen 15.97
6 Balochi 16.13
7 Kalash 16.53
8 Brahui 16.84
9 Burusho 17.83
10 Tabassaran 18.21
11 Pathan 18.52
12 Kumyk 19
13 Lezgin 19.13
14 Chechen 19.22
15 Kabardin 19.4
16 Ossetian 19.81
17 Balkar 19.98
18 North_Ossetian 20.33
19 Adygei 20.33
20 Iranian 22.36
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.8% Tadjik + 36.2% Makrani @ 2.75
2 67.7% Tadjik + 32.3% Brahui @ 3.31
3 66.9% Tadjik + 33.1% Balochi @ 3.58
4 75.9% Afghan_Pashtun + 24.1% Turkmen @ 4.36
5 80.6% Afghan_Pashtun + 19.4% Ossetian @ 4.6
6 81.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 18.7% Balkar @ 4.77
7 85.2% Afghan_Pashtun + 14.8% Abhkasian @ 4.78
8 81.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 18.3% North_Ossetian @ 4.81
9 85% Afghan_Pashtun + 15% Georgian @ 4.89
10 63.3% Afghan_Tadjik + 36.7% Balochi @ 4.94
11 84.2% Afghan_Pashtun + 15.8% Kurdish @ 4.97
12 84.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 15.9% Azeri @ 4.99
13 81.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 18.3% Kabardin @ 5.01
14 82.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 17.3% Adygei @ 5.07
15 84.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 15.5% Nogay @ 5.09
16 84.2% Afghan_Pashtun + 15.8% Iranian @ 5.09
17 81.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 18.2% Kumyk @ 5.1
18 68.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 31.6% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.11
19 50.9% Turkmen + 49.1% Kalash @ 5.12
20 88.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 11.6% Armenian @ 5.15
hussein khan
08-23-2019, 03:12 PM
I know this is kind of sudden and all, but i couldnt post anything to you in pms, i dont have anyone else to ask and anyway this isnt much private stuff, so...
How many people are in this project with dilawer? The ones i met are you and some chick from forumbiodiveristy who are both iraqi kurds(if you arent the same person). Dont know how many else are there?
Also, are you sure all southern pashtuns from quetta to farah are all closer to kurds and iranians than to south asians? Because i found some samples that get like 18-20,5% south indian in harrappaworld. Thats not really super far from NW south asians. Where did you get that information from? Also, even kurd said himself he's not 100% of the clustering of souther pashtuns.
Also, why do you think kurds and pakis look really similiar? Not saying they DONT look like each other at all and there isnt an overlap. I even saw a comment from hadouken from some forum talking about how youre wrong about the appearence of kurds. But i kind of agree with him there: Kurds and most south asians(including afghans) dont look super similiar to kurds. I think youre overdoing it a bit.
But anyway, i look forward to when dilawer's project is done
hussein khan
08-23-2019, 03:32 PM
You sound very retarded and again and don’t get what I’m saying so I’m going to educate you only once
Everything MUST add to 100% in a calculator. To make it simple for YOU let’s talk about k3 calculator and this will apply to any K calculator
Let’s say I have
0 SSA alleles
1 E. Eurasian allele
6 W. Eurasian alleles
What’s my admixture percentages?
E. Eurasian = 1/7 = 14.3%
W. Eurasian = 6/7 =85.7%
Now for you let’s say you have
0 SSA alleles
1 E. Eurasian allele
10 W. Eurasian alleles
What’s your admixture percentages?
E. Eurasian = 1/11= 9.1%
W. Eurasian = 10/11=90.9%
So You see even though we both have the same amount of East Eurasian alleles, we both have 1 each your east Eurasian admixture percentage is much less than mine. why? because you have many more west Eurasian alleles than me
Now buzz off
I dont know if you can get my reply or not without the quote, so just quoting you...
Babak
08-23-2019, 06:37 PM
I know this is kind of sudden and all, but i couldnt post anything to you in pms, i dont have anyone else to ask and anyway this isnt much private stuff, so...
How many people are in this project with dilawer? The ones i met are you and some chick from forumbiodiveristy who are both iraqi kurds(if you arent the same person). Dont know how many else are there?
Also, are you sure all southern pashtuns from quetta to farah are all closer to kurds and iranians than to south asians? Because i found some samples that get like 18-20,5% south indian in harrappaworld. Thats not really super far from NW south asians. Where did you get that information from? Also, even kurd said himself he's not 100% of the clustering of souther pashtuns.
Also, why do you think kurds and pakis look really similiar? Not saying they DONT look like each other at all and there isnt an overlap. I even saw a comment from hadouken from some forum talking about how youre wrong about the appearence of kurds. But i kind of agree with him there: Kurds and most south asians(including afghans) dont look super similiar to kurds. I think youre overdoing it a bit.
But anyway, i look forward to when dilawer's project is done
Pashtuns and tajiks are closer to south asians than Iranians overall.
I know this is kind of sudden and all, but i couldnt post anything to you in pms, i dont have anyone else to ask and anyway this isnt much private stuff, so...
How many people are in this project with dilawer? The ones i met are you and some chick from forumbiodiveristy who are both iraqi kurds(if you arent the same person). Dont know how many else are there?
Also, are you sure all southern pashtuns from quetta to farah are all closer to kurds and iranians than to south asians? Because i found some samples that get like 18-20,5% south indian in harrappaworld. Thats not really super far from NW south asians. Where did you get that information from? Also, even kurd said himself he's not 100% of the clustering of souther pashtuns.
Also, why do you think kurds and pakis look really similiar? Not saying they DONT look like each other at all and there isnt an overlap. I even saw a comment from hadouken from some forum talking about how youre wrong about the appearence of kurds. But i kind of agree with him there: Kurds and most south asians(including afghans) dont look super similiar to kurds. I think youre overdoing it a bit.
But anyway, i look forward to when dilawer's project is done
I’m not exactly sure how many people in Dilawer ‘s project but there are a couple more Kurds and some Feyli kurds also and S. Asians.
I emailed Dilawer a couple of weeks ago about whether he had IBS tables comparing Pashtuns with Punjabis and Kurds. He said he did and that he would get them to me when he has a little time but I haven’t received anything yet. I reminded him again today. I’ll post them when he sends them but you shouldn’t use admixture oracles or pca to figure this out. I think it’s best to compare them allele by allele and see who has more matching alleles
As far as Kurds and Pakis looking similar (especially baloch pashtuns and Kurds) its just based on all the people i met and have seen online. I have also seen on this forum and some forum (don’t remember which one) that people confuse the two and guess wrong as to who is Kurd vs Pakis.
Also when I go out with my Kurdish friends and relatives to Paki restaurants or shops people start speaking to us in Urdu thinking we are one of them. Same thing when a couple of my Paki friends used to come to out Kurdish parties the Kurds eould speak to them in Kurdish thinking they are Kurds . A couple of my close female relatives in American schools The kids always used to think that they are Indians lol
Anyways since you asked I think I’ll post some pictures of Kurds and Pakis and let’s see how many people here will gas them correctly . It should be fun. Although my guess is that some of the people here will not try to guess because they’re wiil be worried about guessing wrong, but that’s fine because by not guessing we can surmise that those people who always say they can tell Kurds or MENAS apart from Pakis are full of crap :) But I suppose I can also be wrong and that those people may have sharper eyes than I do
lameduck
08-24-2019, 12:27 AM
I’m not exactly sure how many people in Dilawer ‘s project but there are a couple more Kurds and some Feyli kurds also and S. Asians.
I emailed Dilawer a couple of weeks ago about whether he had IBS tables comparing Pashtuns with Punjabis and Kurds. He said he did and that he would get them to me when he has a little time but I haven’t received anything yet. I reminded him again today. I’ll post them when he sends them but you shouldn’t use admixture oracles or pca to figure this out. I think it’s best to compare them allele by allele and see who has more matching alleles
As far as Kurds and Pakis looking similar (especially baloch pashtuns and Kurds) its just based on all the people i met and have seen online. I have also seen on this forum and some forum (don’t remember which one) that people confuse the two and guess wrong as to who is Kurd vs Pakis.
Also when I go out with my Kurdish friends and relatives to Paki restaurants or shops people start speaking to us in Urdu thinking we are one of them. Same thing when a couple of my Paki friends used to come to out Kurdish parties the Kurds eould speak to them in Kurdish thinking they are Kurds . A couple of my close female relatives in American schools The kids always used to think that they are Indians lol
Anyways since you asked I think I’ll post some pictures of Kurds and Pakis and let’s see how many people here will gas them correctly . It should be fun. Although my guess is that some of the people here will not try to guess because they’re wiil be worried about guessing wrong, but that’s fine because by not guessing we can surmise that those people who always say they can tell Kurds or MENAS apart from Pakis are full of crap :) But I suppose I can also be wrong and that those people may have sharper eyes than I do
Individuals guessing don't mean much , many MENAs come to me all the time and speak in their language but I look Paki its because most multiethnic societies are in western European countries where white people are very different from every type of Asian.
these are Kurds
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroworld/kurdish-people-t806.html
and these are Pakis
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroworld/pakistani-people-t804.html
you guys overlap with your Turkish neighbours much better .
Negah
08-24-2019, 01:05 AM
It is interesting that Herati samples are like northern afghans rather than northeast Iranians
Negah
08-24-2019, 01:08 AM
I’m not exactly sure how many people in Dilawer ‘s project but there are a couple more Kurds and some Feyli kurds also and S. Asians.
I emailed Dilawer a couple of weeks ago about whether he had IBS tables comparing Pashtuns with Punjabis and Kurds. He said he did and that he would get them to me when he has a little time but I haven’t received anything yet. I reminded him again today. I’ll post them when he sends them but you shouldn’t use admixture oracles or pca to figure this out. I think it’s best to compare them allele by allele and see who has more matching alleles
As far as Kurds and Pakis looking similar (especially baloch pashtuns and Kurds) its just based on all the people i met and have seen online. I have also seen on this forum and some forum (don’t remember which one) that people confuse the two and guess wrong as to who is Kurd vs Pakis.
Also when I go out with my Kurdish friends and relatives to Paki restaurants or shops people start speaking to us in Urdu thinking we are one of them. Same thing when a couple of my Paki friends used to come to out Kurdish parties the Kurds eould speak to them in Kurdish thinking they are Kurds . A couple of my close female relatives in American schools The kids always used to think that they are Indians lol
Anyways since you asked I think I’ll post some pictures of Kurds and Pakis and let’s see how many people here will gas them correctly . It should be fun. Although my guess is that some of the people here will not try to guess because they’re wiil be worried about guessing wrong, but that’s fine because by not guessing we can surmise that those people who always say they can tell Kurds or MENAS apart from Pakis are full of crap :) But I suppose I can also be wrong and that those people may have sharper eyes than I do
Where do you live? Pakistan?
Where do you live? Pakistan?
USA. I used to live in DC area where there’s a big international community
You always wanted to see results of heratis, babak.
Here are what i assume are heratis:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 27.82
2 Caucasian 22.25
3 NE-Euro 14.4
4 S-Indian 10.41
5 SW-Asian 6.59
6 NE-Asian 6.1
7 Siberian 4.77
8 Mediterranean 4.18
9 American 1.99
10 San 0.55
11 Papuan 0.54
12 W-African 0.39
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 tajik (yunusbayev) 7.11
2 turkmen (yunusbayev) 9.92
3 pashtun (harappa) 12.38
4 pathan (hgdp) 19.91
5 iranian (harappa) 20.62
6 kalash (hgdp) 20.63
7 romanian-b (behar) 20.85
8 burusho (hgdp) 20.97
9 iranian (behar) 21.13
10 stalskoe (xing) 21.4
11 uzbek (behar) 21.9
12 sindhi (harappa) 22.16
13 kurd (harappa) 22.22
14 nogai (yunusbayev) 22.28
15 haryana-jatt (harappa) 22.53
16 kashmiri (harappa) 22.68
17 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 22.72
18 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 23.73
19 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 24.1
20 bhatia (harappa) 24.2
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.8% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 29.2% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.84
2 77.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 22.1% romanian-b (behar) @ 4.1
3 87.4% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.6% yemenese (behar) @ 4.52
4 90.4% tajik (yunusbayev) + 9.6% yemen-jew (behar) @ 4.52
5 88.3% tajik (yunusbayev) + 11.7% egypt (henn2012) @ 4.63
6 87.6% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.4% palestinian (hgdp) @ 4.68
7 88.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 11.5% egyptian (behar) @ 4.69
8 91.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 8.9% saudi (behar) @ 4.72
9 90.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 9.1% bedouin (hgdp) @ 4.76
10 90.4% tajik (yunusbayev) + 9.6% qatari (henn2012) @ 4.8
11 83.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 16.8% bene-israel-jew (behar) @ 4.8
12 87% tajik (yunusbayev) + 13% jordanian (behar) @ 4.82
13 89.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 10.8% samaritian (behar) @ 4.89
14 86.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 13.9% syrian (behar) @ 4.9
15 83.3% tajik (yunusbayev) + 16.7% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 4.91
16 53.6% burusho (hgdp) + 46.4% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 4.93
17 86% tajik (yunusbayev) + 14% palestinian (harappa) @ 5.05
18 73.1% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 26.9% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 5.06
19 86.7% tajik (yunusbayev) + 13.3% lebanese (behar) @ 5.07
20 76.7% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 23.3% nepalese-a (xing)
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 31.74
2 Caucasian 23.57
3 NE-Euro 14.27
4 S-Indian 9.09
5 SW-Asian 7.46
6 NE-Asian 3.19
7 Mediterranean 2.8
8 Siberian 2.4
9 American 1.94
10 Beringian 1.31
11 Papuan 0.74
12 W-African 0.6
13 SE-Asian 0.5
14 E-African 0.4
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 tajik (yunusbayev) 7.7
2 pashtun (harappa) 11.09
3 turkmen (yunusbayev) 11.55
4 pathan (hgdp) 18.34
5 kalash (hgdp) 18.43
6 iranian (harappa) 19.03
7 iranian (behar) 19.29
8 stalskoe (xing) 20.58
9 burusho (hgdp) 20.75
10 kurd (harappa) 20.78
11 sindhi (harappa) 21.08
12 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 21.86
13 haryana-jatt (harappa) 22.32
14 bhatia (harappa) 22.58
15 kashmiri (harappa) 22.59
16 urkarah (xing) 22.84
17 kurd (xing) 23
18 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 23.09
19 romanian-b (behar) 23.37
20 kurd (yunusbayev) 23.5
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.3% tajik (yunusbayev) + 23.7% iranian (behar) @ 5.08
2 81.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 18.1% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 5.3
3 85.6% tajik (yunusbayev) + 14.4% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 5.59
4 90.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 9.2% yemen-jew (behar) @ 5.6
5 79.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 20.8% kurd (harappa) @ 5.61
6 91.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 8.8% saudi (behar) @ 5.62
7 87.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.1% yemenese (behar) @ 5.63
8 85.4% tajik (yunusbayev) + 14.6% palestinian (harappa) @ 5.65
9 86% tajik (yunusbayev) + 14% syrian (behar) @ 5.68
10 90.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 9.5% qatari (henn2012) @ 5.7
11 86.7% tajik (yunusbayev) + 13.3% iraq-jew (behar) @ 5.71
12 84.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 15.9% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 5.73
13 86.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 13.5% iranian-jew (behar) @ 5.75
14 91.3% tajik (yunusbayev) + 8.7% bedouin (hgdp) @ 5.81
15 87.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.5% jordanian (behar) @ 5.82
16 89.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 10.2% samaritian (behar) @ 5.93
17 51.4% pashtun (harappa) + 48.6% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 5.98
18 65.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 34.1% pashtun (harappa) @ 5.99
19 68.6% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 31.4% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 6.02
20 87.3% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.7% lebanese (behar) @ 6.03
What makes you think these are specifically Heratis ?
Mingle
08-24-2019, 03:06 AM
It is interesting that Herati samples are like northern afghans rather than northeast Iranians
There are no northeast Iranian samples.
Negah
08-24-2019, 07:32 AM
There are no northeast Iranian samples.
I was referring to northeast of Iran the country
Negah
08-24-2019, 07:35 AM
What makes you think these are specifically Heratis ?
Just the question I was going to ask. Are these samples of native Heratis
Copy from the Talysh thread:
Talysh results(Dodecad k12b) :
Kit NP9156736
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 43.65
2 Gedrosia 21.52
3 North_European 9.09
4 Southwest_Asian 8.71
5 Atlantic_Med 5.39
6 South_Asian 3.31
7 Siberian 3.16
8 East_African 1.84
9 Southeast_Asian 1.66
10 Northwest_African 1
11 East_Asian 0.67
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian (Dodecad) 8.97
2 Turks (Behar) 9.03
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 9.57
4 Kurd (Dodecad) 9.92
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 11.32
6 Turkish (Dodecad) 11.63
7 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 11.91
8 Iranians (Behar) 12.98
9 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 14.54
10 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 14.91
11 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.15
12 Armenian (Dodecad) 15.57
13 Assyrian (Dodecad) 16.12
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.04
15 Armenians (Behar) 17.22
16 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 17.26
17 Lezgins (Behar) 17.81
18 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 17.83
19 Adygei (HGDP) 18.56
20 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 18.95
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.4% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 32.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.51
2 60.2% Iranians (Behar) + 39.8% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 4.52
3 63.2% Armenians (Behar) + 36.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.54
4 70.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 29.6% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 4.58
5 50.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 49.7% Armenians (Behar) @ 4.75
6 70.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 29.3% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.77
7 60.3% Iranians (Behar) + 39.7% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.79
8 70.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 29.7% Adygei (HGDP) @ 4.82
9 65.8% Armenian (Dodecad) + 34.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.89
10 59.8% Iranians (Behar) + 40.2% Adygei (HGDP) @ 4.92
11 59.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 40.8% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.98
12 50.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 49.8% Turks (Behar) @ 5.01
13 68.2% Kurd (Dodecad) + 31.8% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 5.12
14 54.4% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 45.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.13
15 51.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 48.4% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.27
16 68.5% Kurd (Dodecad) + 31.5% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.31
17 68% Kurd (Dodecad) + 32% Adygei (HGDP) @ 5.33
18 58.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 41.1% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 5.35
19 56% Kurd (Dodecad) + 44% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.37
20 52.7% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 47.3% Iranians (Behar) @ 5.44
Kit HU4997660
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 40.91
2 Gedrosia 25.97
3 Southwest_Asian 11.03
4 Atlantic_Med 7.73
5 North_European 7.43
6 East_Asian 2.88
7 South_Asian 2.83
8 Siberian 0.71
9 Northwest_African 0.4
10 Southeast_Asian 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian (Dodecad) 4.85
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 5.24
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 5.39
4 Iranians (Behar) 8.09
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 10.57
6 Turks (Behar) 11.67
7 Turkish (Dodecad) 14
8 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 14.99
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.34
10 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 15.85
11 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 15.86
12 Assyrian (Dodecad) 16.12
13 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 16.14
14 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 16.76
15 Armenian (Dodecad) 17.1
16 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 18.43
17 Armenians (Behar) 19.85
18 Lebanese (Behar) 19.96
19 Lezgins (Behar) 20.11
20 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 21.94
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.1% Iranian (Dodecad) + 21.9% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.97
2 63.9% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 36.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.11
3 75.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 24.8% Turks (Behar) @ 3.12
4 89.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 10.6% Greek (Dodecad) @ 3.2
5 60.2% Iranians (Behar) + 39.8% Turks (Behar) @ 3.26
6 88.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.5% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 3.28
7 89% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 3.34
8 64.9% Iranians (Behar) + 35.1% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 3.36
9 89.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 10.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.37
10 62.7% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 37.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.38
11 90.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 9.2% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.39
12 62.8% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 37.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.4
13 89.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 10.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.42
14 91.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.5% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 3.42
15 91.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.45
16 91.1% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.47
17 91.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.1% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 3.5
18 91.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.51
19 77.8% Kurd (Dodecad) + 22.2% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 3.52
20 92.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 7.8% Romanians (Behar) @ 3.57
Harappaworld
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 45.28
2 Baloch 21.03
3 SW-Asian 8.81
4 NE-Euro 8.03
5 Mediterranean 5.13
6 S-Indian 4.5
7 Siberian 1.68
8 E-African 1.63
9 Beringian 1.52
10 SE-Asian 1.27
11 NE-Asian 0.54
12 Papuan 0.43
13 San 0.1
14 Pygmy 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 azeri (harappa) 3.71
2 turkish (harappa) 6.51
3 kurd (yunusbayev) 7.58
4 iranian (harappa) 7.95
5 kurd (harappa) 8.03
6 turk (behar) 8.15
7 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 8.83
8 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 8.98
9 kurd (xing) 9.37
10 armenian (harappa) 9.41
11 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 10.5
12 kumyk (yunusbayev) 10.85
13 iranian (behar) 10.87
14 armenian (behar) 12.83
15 assyrian (harappa) 13.22
16 armenian (yunusbayev) 13.3
17 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 13.56
18 georgia-jew (behar) 14.5
19 stalskoe (xing) 14.85
20 balkar (yunusbayev) 15.26
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.5% armenian (behar) + 29.5% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.06
2 94.9% azeri (harappa) + 5.1% kalash (hgdp) @ 3.16
3 95.3% azeri (harappa) + 4.7% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 3.16
4 95.7% azeri (harappa) + 4.3% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 3.19
5 96% azeri (harappa) + 4% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.19
6 96.1% azeri (harappa) + 3.9% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 3.2
7 95.2% azeri (harappa) + 4.8% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.2
8 95.8% azeri (harappa) + 4.2% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 3.2
9 95.7% azeri (harappa) + 4.3% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 3.21
10 96.1% azeri (harappa) + 3.9% sindhi (hgdp) @ 3.21
11 95.8% azeri (harappa) + 4.2% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.21
12 96.1% azeri (harappa) + 3.9% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 3.21
13 95.5% azeri (harappa) + 4.5% sindhi (harappa) @ 3.21
14 96% azeri (harappa) + 4% punjabi (harappa) @ 3.21
15 96.1% azeri (harappa) + 3.9% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 3.22
16 95.6% azeri (harappa) + 4.4% kashmiri (harappa) @ 3.23
17 96.7% azeri (harappa) + 3.3% gujarati-b (hapmap) @ 3.23
18 96.8% azeri (harappa) + 3.2% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) @ 3.23
19 96.5% azeri (harappa) + 3.5% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.24
20 96.8% azeri (harappa) + 3.2% tn-brahmin (xing) @ 3.24
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 43.51
2 Baloch 25.6
3 SW-Asian 9.97
4 Mediterranean 6.71
5 NE-Euro 6.49
6 S-Indian 3.37
7 NE-Asian 2.53
8 Siberian 0.92
9 Papuan 0.59
10 SE-Asian 0.24
11 American 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (harappa) 4.08
2 kurd (yunusbayev) 4.28
3 kurd (harappa) 4.76
4 kurd (xing) 5.88
5 azeri (harappa) 6.73
6 turkish (harappa) 7.17
7 iranian (behar) 7.52
8 armenian (harappa) 9.72
9 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 9.97
10 turk (behar) 10.71
11 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 11.04
12 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 11.17
13 kumyk (yunusbayev) 13.22
14 assyrian (harappa) 13.29
15 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 14.59
16 iraqi-arab (harappa) 14.62
17 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 14.67
18 armenian (yunusbayev) 14.86
19 armenian (behar) 15.04
20 iranian-jew (behar) 15.38
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.2% iranian (harappa) + 17.8% armenian (behar) @ 2.52
2 78.1% iranian (harappa) + 21.9% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 2.72
3 93.6% kurd (yunusbayev) + 6.4% nepalese-c (xing) @ 2.73
4 77.4% iranian (harappa) + 22.6% turk (behar) @ 2.74
5 95.2% kurd (yunusbayev) + 4.8% nepalese-b (xing) @ 2.74
6 86.1% iranian (harappa) + 13.9% balkar (yunusbayev) @ 2.77
7 86.6% iranian (harappa) + 13.4% adygei (hgdp) @ 2.79
8 90.5% iranian (harappa) + 9.5% georgian (behar) @ 2.79
9 82.6% kurd (yunusbayev) + 17.4% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 2.8
10 89.8% iranian (harappa) + 10.2% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 2.81
11 86.4% iranian (harappa) + 13.6% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 2.82
12 92.9% kurd (yunusbayev) + 7.1% uyghur (hgdp) @ 2.84
13 91.7% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.3% uzbek (behar) @ 2.85
14 92.9% kurd (yunusbayev) + 7.1% hazara (hgdp) @ 2.91
15 89.6% kurd (yunusbayev) + 10.4% romanian-b (behar) @ 2.92
16 68% iranian (harappa) + 32% azeri (harappa) @ 2.92
17 78.9% iranian (harappa) + 21.1% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 2.93
18 87.7% kurd (yunusbayev) + 12.3% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 2.93
19 83.4% kurd (harappa) + 16.6% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 2.94
20 83.2% kurd (harappa) + 16.8% balkar (yunusbayev) @ 2.96
hussein khan
08-24-2019, 12:22 PM
What makes you think these are specifically Heratis ?
They all have the surname "haidari"
hussein khan
08-24-2019, 12:26 PM
Actually, there's a herati sample thats more south asian shifted compared to the ones i posted:
Kit T574842
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 29.25
2 Caucasian 23.06
3 S-Indian 13.14
4 NE-Euro 10.28
5 SW-Asian 6.29
6 Mediterranean 5.3
7 Siberian 5.25
8 NE-Asian 4.04
9 Beringian 0.97
10 American 0.94
11 SE-Asian 0.65
12 Papuan 0.56
13 Pygmy 0.2
14 San 0.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 pashtun (harappa) 9.79
2 tajik (yunusbayev) 9.92
3 turkmen (yunusbayev) 10.65
4 pathan (hgdp) 17.53
5 kalash (hgdp) 18.11
6 burusho (hgdp) 19.3
7 sindhi (harappa) 19.49
8 iranian (harappa) 19.53
9 romanian-b (behar) 19.87
10 iranian (behar) 19.92
11 kashmiri (harappa) 19.95
12 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 20.17
13 kurd (harappa) 21.19
14 haryana-jatt (harappa) 21.43
15 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 21.58
16 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 21.94
17 bhatia (harappa) 22.13
18 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 22.31
19 bene-israel-jew (behar) 22.5
20 stalskoe (xing) 23.16
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 32.5% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 2.68
2 72.3% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 27.7% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 2.97
3 74.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 25.1% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.06
4 71.6% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 28.4% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 3.07
5 68.1% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 31.9% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 3.09
6 71.3% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 28.7% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.13
7 70% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 30% punjabi (harappa) @ 3.17
8 67.6% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 32.4% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.19
9 69.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 30.1% up-muslim (harappa) @ 3.22
10 76.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 23.8% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 3.23
11 66.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 33.8% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 3.24
12 71.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 28.1% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 3.26
13 71.3% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 28.7% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 3.29
14 77.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 22.5% gujarati-b (hapmap) @ 3.33
15 77.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 22.8% vaish (reich) @ 3.35
16 69.7% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 30.3% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 3.41
17 77.7% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 22.3% up-kshatriya (metspalu) @ 3.42
18 52.4% pashtun (harappa) + 47.6% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 3.46
19 68.7% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 31.3% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 3.52
20 65.6% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 34.4% sindhi (harappa) @ 3.56
an assumingly herati pashtun:
Kit QX9447281
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 30.93
2 Caucasian 27.23
3 S-Indian 18.46
4 NE-Euro 10.69
5 SW-Asian 5.87
6 Mediterranean 1.37
7 SE-Asian 1.36
8 Siberian 1.34
9 Beringian 0.85
10 American 0.84
11 W-African 0.71
12 E-African 0.3
13 Pygmy 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 pashtun (harappa) 8.31
2 pathan (hgdp) 15.32
3 kalash (hgdp) 15.33
4 tajik (yunusbayev) 15.68
5 turkmen (yunusbayev) 16.17
6 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 16.88
7 sindhi (harappa) 17.02
8 kashmiri (harappa) 17.36
9 bene-israel-jew (behar) 19.03
10 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 19.3
11 burusho (hgdp) 19.42
12 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 19.53
13 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 19.86
14 iranian (harappa) 19.98
15 bhatia (harappa) 20.24
16 iranian (behar) 20.27
17 haryana-jatt (harappa) 20.33
18 romanian-b (behar) 20.48
19 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 20.62
20 punjabi (harappa) 21.42
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.7% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 40.3% azeri (harappa) @ 2.56
2 74.2% pathan (hgdp) + 25.8% druze (hgdp) @ 3.12
3 63.4% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 36.6% turk (behar) @ 3.27
4 67.8% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 32.2% armenian (behar) @ 3.32
5 52.3% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 47.7% azeri (harappa) @ 3.37
6 64% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 36% armenian (behar) @ 3.42
7 51.6% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 48.4% azeri (harappa) @ 3.5
8 65.4% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 34.6% georgian (harappa) @ 3.57
9 60.4% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 39.6% turkish (harappa) @ 3.59
10 58% gujarati-muslim (harappa) + 42% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 3.64
11 63.5% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 36.5% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 3.66
12 59.7% sindhi (harappa) + 40.3% azeri (harappa) @ 3.68
13 53.6% kurd (yunusbayev) + 46.4% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.7
14 55.8% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 44.2% azeri (harappa) @ 3.71
15 54.8% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 45.2% azeri (harappa) @ 3.72
16 62.9% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 37.1% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 3.76
17 67.7% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 32.3% georgia-jew (behar) @ 3.78
18 59.4% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 40.6% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 3.79
19 67.4% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 32.6% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 3.8
20 60.5% gujarati-muslim (harappa) + 39.5% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 3.81
Maybe theyre not all much less south asian shifted than their eastern neighbors.
hussein khan
08-24-2019, 12:29 PM
I’m not exactly sure how many people in Dilawer ‘s project but there are a couple more Kurds and some Feyli kurds also and S. Asians.
I emailed Dilawer a couple of weeks ago about whether he had IBS tables comparing Pashtuns with Punjabis and Kurds. He said he did and that he would get them to me when he has a little time but I haven’t received anything yet. I reminded him again today. I’ll post them when he sends them but you shouldn’t use admixture oracles or pca to figure this out. I think it’s best to compare them allele by allele and see who has more matching alleles
As far as Kurds and Pakis looking similar (especially baloch pashtuns and Kurds) its just based on all the people i met and have seen online. I have also seen on this forum and some forum (don’t remember which one) that people confuse the two and guess wrong as to who is Kurd vs Pakis.
Also when I go out with my Kurdish friends and relatives to Paki restaurants or shops people start speaking to us in Urdu thinking we are one of them. Same thing when a couple of my Paki friends used to come to out Kurdish parties the Kurds eould speak to them in Kurdish thinking they are Kurds . A couple of my close female relatives in American schools The kids always used to think that they are Indians lol
Anyways since you asked I think I’ll post some pictures of Kurds and Pakis and let’s see how many people here will gas them correctly . It should be fun. Although my guess is that some of the people here will not try to guess because they’re wiil be worried about guessing wrong, but that’s fine because by not guessing we can surmise that those people who always say they can tell Kurds or MENAS apart from Pakis are full of crap :) But I suppose I can also be wrong and that those people may have sharper eyes than I do
Well, i hope you get thpse results from dilawer soon. Thanks for answering...
hussein khan
08-24-2019, 12:31 PM
Individuals guessing don't mean much , many MENAs come to me all the time and speak in their language but I look Paki its because most multiethnic societies are in western European countries where white people are very different from every type of Asian.
these are Kurds
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroworld/kurdish-people-t806.html
and these are Pakis
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroworld/pakistani-people-t804.html
you guys overlap with your Turkish neighbours much better .
I think he meant also getting confused for paks too, but not he could pass as paks more than turks.
Mingle
08-24-2019, 02:06 PM
I was referring to northeast of Iran the country
What makes you think I wasn't? There are no samples from the northeast of Iran the country.
Negah
08-24-2019, 04:43 PM
What makes you think I wasn't? There are no samples from the northeast of Iran the country.
I have seen samples of Northeastern Iranians while they tend to be somewhat different than west Iranians, they are not similar to the Persians (Tajiks) of Northern Afghanistan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan either. There is no uniformity of genetics it seems in what used to be the greater Khorasan region.
Herat and Balkh are an interesting case because of the regions history and its proximity and shared history to Iran.
But yes, I like to see more samples from Northeastern Iranians and Northern Afghanistan because of the closeness of history of the region, it would be interesting to see samples from east of Tehran all the way to the Tajiks of Northern Afghanistan.
Babak
08-24-2019, 05:49 PM
I have seen samples of Northeastern Iranians while they tend to be somewhat different than west Iranians, they are not similar to the Persians (Tajiks) of Northern Afghanistan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan either. There is no uniformity of genetics its seems in what used to be the greater Khorasan region.
Herat and Balkh are an interesting case because of the regions history and its proximity and shared history to Iran.
But yes, I like to more samples from Northeastern Iranians and Northern Afghanistan because of the closeness of history of the region, it would be interesting to see samples from east of Tehran all the way to the Tajiks of Northern Afghanistan.
Khorasanis speak a dialect thats extremely close to Dari and some of them even identify as Tajiks. I believe what happened was Tajiks mixed with the remaining Iranian population and created this unique distinction between west and east iranians. Thats why theyre not similiar to either population. Its the same with Heratis because many of them can not only speak with a Dari accent, but with an Iranian one too.
Mingle
08-24-2019, 06:08 PM
I have seen samples of Northeastern Iranians while they tend to be somewhat different than west Iranians, they are not similar to the Persians (Tajiks) of Northern Afghanistan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan either. There is no uniformity of genetics it seems in what used to be the greater Khorasan region.
Herat and Balkh are an interesting case because of the regions history and its proximity and shared history to Iran.
But yes, I like to see more samples from Northeastern Iranians and Northern Afghanistan because of the closeness of history of the region, it would be interesting to see samples from east of Tehran all the way to the Tajiks of Northern Afghanistan.I have yet to see a sample of a Northeastern Iranian. Can you post one?
Negah
08-24-2019, 06:25 PM
I have yet to see a sample of a Northeastern Iranian. Can you post one?
I’ll see if I can find the kit number on gedmatch
Individuals guessing don't mean much , many MENAs come to me all the time and speak in their language but I look Paki its because most multiethnic societies are in western European countries where white people are very different from every type of Asian.
these are Kurds
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroworld/kurdish-people-t806.html
and these are Pakis
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroworld/pakistani-people-t804.html
you guys overlap with your Turkish neighbours much better .
Ok i kind of see where you’re coming from. Haduken posts pictures of kurds from his area. Some of them overlap the Iraqi kurds from my family but many don’t. He himself has said Iraqi kurds look foreign to him. By Pakis i’m including all types of pashtuns and balochis too. Actually some of his pictures do overlap pashtuns and Balochis.
But ok the challenge is on and maybe you do have an extra sharp eye. We shall see :) I’ll post some pics of random Pakis and kurds some from my family and some from my area with a poll and ask to say which are kurds and which are pakis.
Now don’t wimp out on me because if you don’t guess I’ll assume you can’t tell the difference. This is your chance to prove me wrong. I’ll make sure the pics i post are verifiable. Good luck.
lameduck
08-24-2019, 09:38 PM
Ok i kind of see where you’re coming from. Haduken posts pictures of kurds from his area. Some of them overlap the Iraqi kurds from my family but many don’t. He himself has said Iraqi kurds look foreign to him. By Pakis i’m including all types of pashtuns and balochis too. Actually some of his pictures do overlap pashtuns and Balochis.
But ok the challenge is on and maybe you do have an extra sharp eye. We shall see :) I’ll post some pics of random Pakis and kurds some from my family and some from my area with a poll and ask to say which are kurds and which are pakis.
Now don’t wimp out on me because if you don’t guess I’ll assume you can’t tell the difference. This is your chance to prove me wrong. I’ll make sure the pics i post are verifiable. Good luck.
well i am not denying we doesnt look same specie , you can feel assocaition to Pakistan as much as you want afterall Pakistan is indo iranian heartland with Gandhara and IVC, but these forums attract very immature people who might think you are trying to darkwash kurds and think i want to whitewash pakis , i dont want such comments , personally i think iraqi arabs are more deserving of your assocaition as your country has lot of fractured faultlines.
The Pakistanis are South Asians and considered Asian in the US and UK. Someone who is half Paki half European is considered mixed race. The Kurds are West Asians and counted as white in the US because the ME & NA region is included in that category. Kurds have less South Asian in them than many Iranians of Iran, let alone South-Central Asians.
well i am not denying certain similarities , you can feel assocaition to Pakistan as much as you want afterall Pakistan is indo iranian heartland with Gandhara and IVC, but these forums attract very immature people who might think you are trying to darkwash kurds and think i want to whitewash pakis , i dont want such comments , personally i think iraqi arabs are more deserving of your assocaition as your country has lot of fractured faultlines.
You are right there’s a bunch of losers and idiots here who get a kick out of belittling others or have complexes and try to whitewash themselves or their ethnicities , but who cares about them.
When I was in college i had friends from Iraq, iran, Afganistan, Saudi, Assyrians, Pakis, and Israelis. They all treated me like one of their own and i did the same. I judge a person by their character and not about the politics of their country.
There are alot of keyboard warriors though who have created a bad image for their ethnicity but i think those people whether they are kurds, pashtuns, punjabis, turks, persians are 2nd generation in other words born outside their countries.
For example Kurds such as myself who are raised in Kurdistan or Pashtuns or Punjabis raised in Pakistan you’ll find are very hospitable and respectful by nature. Alot of The ones born and raised overseas you ‘ll will find are idiots
You probably have a better eye than me that’s why I want to see how good you are at guessing kurds from my area from pakis
Negah
08-25-2019, 12:26 AM
well i am not denying we doesnt look same specie , you can feel assocaition to Pakistan as much as you want afterall Pakistan is indo iranian heartland with Gandhara and IVC, but these forums attract very immature people who might think you are trying to darkwash kurds and think i want to whitewash pakis , i dont want such comments , personally i think iraqi arabs are more deserving of your assocaition as your country has lot of fractured faultlines.
The problem is that a good number of south Asian and mena members join these forums to whitewash their countries. It is so easy to troll them. Sometimes I am so tempted. I have seen some members from these countries photoshop their pictures for classification, so they look light. And they only post the lightest people from their respective countries for classification. IMO there is definitely a colorism problem in these countries which manifest itself on these forums
Negah
08-25-2019, 12:27 AM
You are right there’s a bunch of losers and idiots here who get a kick out of belittling others or have complexes and try to whitewash themselves or their ethnicities , but who cares about them.
When I was in college i had friends from Iraq, iran, Afganistan, Saudi, Assyrians, Pakis, and Israelis. They all treated me like one of their own and i did the same. I judge a person by their character and not about the politics of their country.
There are alot of keyboard warriors though who have created a bad image for their ethnicity but i think those people whether they are kurds, pashtuns, punjabis, turks, persians are 2nd generation in other words born outside their countries.
For example Kurds such as myself who are raised in Kurdistan or Pashtuns or Punjabis raised in Pakistan you’ll find are very hospitable and respectful by nature. Alot of The ones born and raised overseas you ‘ll will find are idiots
You probably have a better eye than me that’s why I want to see how good you are at guessing kurds from my area from pakis
+1
hussein khan
08-25-2019, 02:40 PM
You are right there’s a bunch of losers and idiots here who get a kick out of belittling others or have complexes and try to whitewash themselves or their ethnicities , but who cares about them.
When I was in college i had friends from Iraq, iran, Afganistan, Saudi, Assyrians, Pakis, and Israelis. They all treated me like one of their own and i did the same. I judge a person by their character and not about the politics of their country.
There are alot of keyboard warriors though who have created a bad image for their ethnicity but i think those people whether they are kurds, pashtuns, punjabis, turks, persians are 2nd generation in other words born outside their countries.
For example Kurds such as myself who are raised in Kurdistan or Pashtuns or Punjabis raised in Pakistan you’ll find are very hospitable and respectful by nature. Alot of The ones born and raised overseas you ‘ll will find are idiots
You probably have a better eye than me that’s why I want to see how good you are at guessing kurds from my area from pakis
Cant wait to see these classifiction threads then. Take care and i hope the project is going well.
hussein khan
08-25-2019, 02:40 PM
You are right there’s a bunch of losers and idiots here who get a kick out of belittling others or have complexes and try to whitewash themselves or their ethnicities , but who cares about them.
When I was in college i had friends from Iraq, iran, Afganistan, Saudi, Assyrians, Pakis, and Israelis. They all treated me like one of their own and i did the same. I judge a person by their character and not about the politics of their country.
There are alot of keyboard warriors though who have created a bad image for their ethnicity but i think those people whether they are kurds, pashtuns, punjabis, turks, persians are 2nd generation in other words born outside their countries.
For example Kurds such as myself who are raised in Kurdistan or Pashtuns or Punjabis raised in Pakistan you’ll find are very hospitable and respectful by nature. Alot of The ones born and raised overseas you ‘ll will find are idiots
You probably have a better eye than me that’s why I want to see how good you are at guessing kurds from my area from pakis
Cant wait to see these classifiction threads then. Take care and i hope the project is going well.
hussein khan
08-25-2019, 02:52 PM
Ok i kind of see where you’re coming from. Haduken posts pictures of kurds from his area. Some of them overlap the Iraqi kurds from my family but many don’t. He himself has said Iraqi kurds look foreign to him. By Pakis i’m including all types of pashtuns and balochis too. Actually some of his pictures do overlap pashtuns and Balochis.
But ok the challenge is on and maybe you do have an extra sharp eye. We shall see :) I’ll post some pics of random Pakis and kurds some from my family and some from my area with a poll and ask to say which are kurds and which are pakis.
Now don’t wimp out on me because if you don’t guess I’ll assume you can’t tell the difference. This is your chance to prove me wrong. I’ll make sure the pics i post are verifiable. Good luck.
TBH dude, i think they(turkish kurds) are as common as iraqi kurds. I only seen one iraqi kurd in my life and most other kurds were from turkey. I also seen one single iranian kurd(the guy is named keyhan the freeman….i guess you seen him before on youtube). They kind of did look more eastern compared to the kurds i seen.
But when you mention kurds, i think you only limit it to iranian and iraq kurds…..the ones looking more similiar to paks?
TBH dude, i think they(turkish kurds) are as common as iraqi kurds. I only seen one iraqi kurd in my life and most other kurds were from turkey. I also seen one single iranian kurd(the guy is named keyhan the freeman….i guess you seen him before on youtube). They kind of did look more eastern compared to the kurds i seen.
But when you mention kurds, i think you only limit it to iranian and iraq kurds…..the ones looking more similiar to paks?
Correct, Iraq and Iran
hussein khan
08-27-2019, 03:52 PM
Correct, Iraq and Iran
Seems like it. Most, if not all turkey kurds seems too different from south asians(although some indeed had a little overlap with pashtuns and some are even brown-skinned).
But i only seen two eastern kurds in my life(iranian and iraqi ones). They actually seems different from the turkish kurds i seen and could pass a little better in the more eastern parts...
Copper Age Iran
#1
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 51.39
2 Baloch 21.01
3 SW-Asian 16.8
4 Mediterranean 7.99
5 Papuan 1.49
6 Beringian 0.68
7 W-African 0.49
8 S-Indian 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 assyrian (harappa) 2.56
2 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 4.49
3 iranian-jew (behar) 5.77
4 georgia-jew (behar) 6.07
5 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 6.34
6 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 6.42
7 armenian (harappa) 7.06
8 armenian (yunusbayev) 7.33
9 iraq-jew (behar) 7.7
10 armenian (behar) 10.09
11 kurd (yunusbayev) 10.12
12 lebanese-druze (haber) 10.72
13 kurd (xing) 10.93
14 turkish (harappa) 11.43
15 kurd (harappa) 11.92
16 lebanese-muslim (haber) 12.16
17 azeri (harappa) 12.27
18 lebanese-christian (haber) 12.39
19 turk (behar) 13.12
20 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 13.22
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.2% assyrian (harappa) + 2.8% makrani (hgdp) @ 2.19
2 97.4% assyrian (harappa) + 2.6% brahui (hgdp) @ 2.2
3 97.4% assyrian (harappa) + 2.6% balochi (hgdp) @ 2.22
4 99.1% assyrian (harappa) + 0.9% papuan (hgdp) @ 2.28
5 90.2% assyrian (harappa) + 9.8% kurd (xing) @ 2.28
6 99% assyrian (harappa) + 1% melanesian (hgdp) @ 2.32
7 99% assyrian (harappa) + 1% aus (reich) @ 2.34
8 97.8% assyrian (harappa) + 2.2% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.34
9 98.1% assyrian (harappa) + 1.9% sindhi (hgdp) @ 2.36
10 92.4% assyrian (harappa) + 7.6% kurd (harappa) @ 2.37
11 93.6% assyrian (harappa) + 6.4% iranian (behar) @ 2.38
12 98.3% assyrian (harappa) + 1.7% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 2.38
13 98.2% assyrian (harappa) + 1.8% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.39
14 98.1% assyrian (harappa) + 1.9% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.4
15 98.2% assyrian (harappa) + 1.8% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.41
16 98.3% assyrian (harappa) + 1.7% burusho (hgdp) @ 2.41
17 98.3% assyrian (harappa) + 1.7% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 2.41
18 98.5% assyrian (harappa) + 1.5% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 2.42
19 98.5% assyrian (harappa) + 1.5% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 2.43
20 98.3% assyrian (harappa) + 1.7% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 2.43
#2
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 50.11
2 Baloch 21.77
3 SW-Asian 15.54
4 Mediterranean 7.55
5 W-African 2.41
6 S-Indian 1.38
7 Siberian 1.07
8 Pygmy 0.18
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 assyrian (harappa) 4.6
2 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 6.04
3 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 6.44
4 armenian (harappa) 7.07
5 iranian-jew (behar) 7.11
6 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 7.29
7 georgia-jew (behar) 7.67
8 armenian (yunusbayev) 8.3
9 kurd (yunusbayev) 8.86
10 iraq-jew (behar) 9.09
11 kurd (xing) 9.72
12 kurd (harappa) 10.53
13 turkish (harappa) 10.53
14 armenian (behar) 10.64
15 azeri (harappa) 10.97
16 lebanese-druze (haber) 12.13
17 iranian (harappa) 12.37
18 iranian (behar) 12.49
19 turk (behar) 12.49
20 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 12.67
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.3% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 10.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 2.88
2 90.4% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 9.6% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.11
3 89.9% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 10.1% balochi (hgdp) @ 3.15
4 93.3% assyrian (harappa) + 6.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 3.34
5 93.7% assyrian (harappa) + 6.3% balochi (hgdp) @ 3.4
6 93.4% assyrian (harappa) + 6.6% kalash (hgdp) @ 3.45
7 95.7% assyrian (harappa) + 4.3% siddi (reich) @ 3.45
8 94.4% assyrian (harappa) + 5.6% sindhi (hgdp) @ 3.45
9 94.1% assyrian (harappa) + 5.9% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.46
10 80.1% assyrian (harappa) + 19.9% iranian (harappa) @ 3.52
11 94.6% assyrian (harappa) + 5.4% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 3.53
12 94.3% assyrian (harappa) + 5.7% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.54
13 71% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 29% iranian (behar) @ 3.55
14 80.4% assyrian (harappa) + 19.6% iranian (behar) @ 3.56
15 93.8% assyrian (harappa) + 6.2% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.56
16 94.1% assyrian (harappa) + 5.9% sindhi (harappa) @ 3.59
17 94.3% assyrian (harappa) + 5.7% burusho (hgdp) @ 3.59
18 94.6% assyrian (harappa) + 5.4% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 3.6
19 94.9% assyrian (harappa) + 5.1% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 3.61
20 94.8% assyrian (harappa) + 5.2% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 3.61
Yagnobi Result (Eastern Iranics)
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 28.81
2 Caucasian 25.74
3 NE-Euro 22.5
4 Mediterranean 5.99
5 S-Indian 4.1
6 SW-Asian 3.9
7 Siberian 3.46
8 NE-Asian 1.86
9 American 1.26
10 Beringian 0.94
11 SE-Asian 0.72
12 Papuan 0.72
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 tajik (yunusbayev) 9.79
2 turkmen (yunusbayev) 14.47
3 stalskoe (xing) 15.06
4 urkarah (xing) 17.48
5 pashtun (harappa) 19.3
6 lezgin (behar) 20.17
7 nogai (yunusbayev) 20.3
8 iranian (harappa) 21.75
9 kumyk (yunusbayev) 21.86
10 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 22.57
11 iranian (behar) 23.09
12 kurd (harappa) 23.27
13 romanian-b (behar) 24.28
14 azeri (harappa) 24.29
15 chechen (yunusbayev) 24.34
16 turkish (harappa) 24.49
17 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 24.64
18 kurd (yunusbayev) 25.09
19 kurd (xing) 25.13
20 kalash (hgdp) 25.27
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 21.5% bulgarian (yunusbayev) @ 5.71
2 78.6% tajik (yunusbayev) + 21.4% romanian-a (behar) @ 5.93
3 64.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 35.5% stalskoe (xing) @ 6.23
4 69% tajik (yunusbayev) + 31% urkarah (xing) @ 6.52
5 84.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 15.9% slovenian (xing) @ 6.75
6 83.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 16.2% hungarian (behar) @ 6.78
7 85.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 14.2% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 6.99
8 81.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 18.9% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 7.05
9 82.7% tajik (yunusbayev) + 17.3% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 7.06
10 87.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.8% russian (behar) @ 7.14
11 87.6% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.4% belorussian (behar) @ 7.23
12 74.3% tajik (yunusbayev) + 25.7% lezgin (behar) @ 7.31
13 78.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 21.8% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 7.34
14 85.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 14.9% italian (hgdp) @ 7.39
15 82.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 17.8% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 7.44
16 66.6% stalskoe (xing) + 33.4% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 7.53
17 87.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.8% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 7.58
18 89.6% tajik (yunusbayev) + 10.4% lithuanian (behar) @ 7.61
19 87.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.5% n-european (xing) @ 7.62
20 87.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.9% french (hgdp) @ 7.72
hussein khan
08-31-2019, 06:20 PM
Yagnobi Result (Eastern Iranics)
Kit HE9694596
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 28.81
2 Caucasian 25.74
3 NE-Euro 22.5
4 Mediterranean 5.99
5 S-Indian 4.1
6 SW-Asian 3.9
7 Siberian 3.46
8 NE-Asian 1.86
9 American 1.26
10 Beringian 0.94
11 SE-Asian 0.72
12 Papuan 0.72
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 tajik (yunusbayev) 9.79
2 turkmen (yunusbayev) 14.47
3 stalskoe (xing) 15.06
4 urkarah (xing) 17.48
5 pashtun (harappa) 19.3
6 lezgin (behar) 20.17
7 nogai (yunusbayev) 20.3
8 iranian (harappa) 21.75
9 kumyk (yunusbayev) 21.86
10 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 22.57
11 iranian (behar) 23.09
12 kurd (harappa) 23.27
13 romanian-b (behar) 24.28
14 azeri (harappa) 24.29
15 chechen (yunusbayev) 24.34
16 turkish (harappa) 24.49
17 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 24.64
18 kurd (yunusbayev) 25.09
19 kurd (xing) 25.13
20 kalash (hgdp) 25.27
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 21.5% bulgarian (yunusbayev) @ 5.71
2 78.6% tajik (yunusbayev) + 21.4% romanian-a (behar) @ 5.93
3 64.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 35.5% stalskoe (xing) @ 6.23
4 69% tajik (yunusbayev) + 31% urkarah (xing) @ 6.52
5 84.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 15.9% slovenian (xing) @ 6.75
6 83.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 16.2% hungarian (behar) @ 6.78
7 85.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 14.2% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 6.99
8 81.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 18.9% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 7.05
9 82.7% tajik (yunusbayev) + 17.3% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 7.06
10 87.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.8% russian (behar) @ 7.14
11 87.6% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.4% belorussian (behar) @ 7.23
12 74.3% tajik (yunusbayev) + 25.7% lezgin (behar) @ 7.31
13 78.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 21.8% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 7.34
14 85.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 14.9% italian (hgdp) @ 7.39
15 82.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 17.8% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 7.44
16 66.6% stalskoe (xing) + 33.4% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 7.53
17 87.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.8% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 7.58
18 89.6% tajik (yunusbayev) + 10.4% lithuanian (behar) @ 7.61
19 87.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.5% n-european (xing) @ 7.62
20 87.1% tajik (yunusbayev) + 12.9% french (hgdp) @ 7.72
Seems like leto likes to share kits...
Seems like leto likes to share kits...
No, I didn't share anything. Those Yagnobis have been floating around the internet for months. They're from Anthrogenica, Khanabadoshi uploaded them, I believe.
hussein khan
08-31-2019, 06:23 PM
I know. Thought most of you forgot about them, until i posted them to you in PM's.
Seems like leto likes to share kits...
i've got them from anthrogenica
Are the Yagnobis the best fit for iranic migration into Iran?
Most iranians could be modeled 50%Assyrian or Armenian 50%Yagnobi basically
hussein khan
08-31-2019, 06:28 PM
i've got them from anthrogenica
Are the Yagnobis the best fit for iranic migration into Iran?
Most iranians could be modeled 50%Assyrian or Armenian 50%Yagnobi basically
i dont know. But i know you got them from AG. I did myself too. Just bad all the tajikstani kits dont work...
Babak
08-31-2019, 06:56 PM
i've got them from anthrogenica
Are the Yagnobis the best fit for iranic migration into Iran?
Most iranians could be modeled 50%Assyrian or Armenian 50%Yagnobi basically
Yep. Yaghnobis and Pamiris are in fact the best proxy for Early Iranics.
SharpFork
08-31-2019, 09:56 PM
Yep. Yaghnobis and Pamiris are in fact the best proxy for Early Iranics.
Question is are they good proxy for most historical Bactrians or Sogdians(pre Gokturks) too?
Babak
08-31-2019, 10:42 PM
Question is are they good proxy for most historical Bactrians or Sogdians(pre Gokturks) too?
Oh yea, early iranics in general.
SharpFork
08-31-2019, 10:49 PM
Oh yea, early iranics in general.
Did they generally have so little South Asian?
Edit:Nevermind, it's South Indian it would be nice to see the Eurogenes 13k results.
Did they generally have so little South Asian?
Edit:Nevermind, it's South Indian it would be nice to see the Eurogenes 13k results.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 39.42
2 Baltic 14.57
3 North_Atlantic 12.3
4 South_Asian 11.92
5 East_Med 8.24
6 West_Med 3.74
7 Siberian 3.61
8 East_Asian 1.74
9 Amerindian 1.7
10 Red_Sea 1.24
11 Northeast_African 1.07
12 Sub-Saharan 0.39
13 Oceanian 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Tabassaran 9.79
2 Tadjik 10.09
3 Chechen 11.01
4 Lezgin 11.75
5 Kabardin 12.47
6 Kumyk 12.64
7 Afghan_Pashtun 13.55
8 Balkar 14.27
9 Afghan_Tadjik 14.63
10 Adygei 14.69
11 North_Ossetian 14.92
12 Ossetian 15.61
13 Turkmen 16.81
14 Nogay 18.11
15 Azeri 21.71
16 Georgian 22.54
17 Kalash 23.03
18 Kurdish 23.14
19 Iranian 23.43
20 Makrani 23.53
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.9% Tabassaran + 49.1% Tadjik @ 3.72
2 52.6% Tadjik + 47.4% Chechen @ 4.1
3 54.6% Tadjik + 45.4% Lezgin @ 4.53
4 61.9% Tabassaran + 38.1% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.85
5 89% Tabassaran + 11% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 4.88
6 84.8% Tabassaran + 15.2% Bangladeshi @ 4.88
7 81% Chechen + 19% Brahmin_UP @ 4.94
8 87.8% Tabassaran + 12.2% Chenchu @ 5.16
9 83% Chechen + 17% Bangladeshi @ 5.26
10 87.2% Tabassaran + 12.8% Uttar_Pradesh @ 5.26
11 85.4% Chechen + 14.6% Uttar_Pradesh @ 5.29
12 88.7% Tabassaran + 11.3% Chamar @ 5.34
13 86.5% Tabassaran + 13.5% Dharkar @ 5.35
14 87.7% Tabassaran + 12.3% Kol @ 5.38
15 87.9% Tabassaran + 12.1% North_Kannadi @ 5.39
16 82.4% Chechen + 17.6% Kshatriya @ 5.41
17 83.7% Tabassaran + 16.3% Brahmin_UP @ 5.42
18 85.9% Chechen + 14.1% Kol @ 5.44
19 88.8% Tabassaran + 11.2% Sakilli @ 5.44
20 75.7% Tabassaran + 24.3% Burusho @ 5.46
Eline
08-31-2019, 11:15 PM
Copper Age Iran
#1
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 51.39
2 Baloch 21.01
3 SW-Asian 16.8
4 Mediterranean 7.99
5 Papuan 1.49
6 Beringian 0.68
7 W-African 0.49
8 S-Indian 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 assyrian (harappa) 2.56
2 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 4.49
3 iranian-jew (behar) 5.77
4 georgia-jew (behar) 6.07
5 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 6.34
6 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 6.42
7 armenian (harappa) 7.06
8 armenian (yunusbayev) 7.33
9 iraq-jew (behar) 7.7
10 armenian (behar) 10.09
11 kurd (yunusbayev) 10.12
12 lebanese-druze (haber) 10.72
13 kurd (xing) 10.93
14 turkish (harappa) 11.43
15 kurd (harappa) 11.92
16 lebanese-muslim (haber) 12.16
17 azeri (harappa) 12.27
18 lebanese-christian (haber) 12.39
19 turk (behar) 13.12
20 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 13.22
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.2% assyrian (harappa) + 2.8% makrani (hgdp) @ 2.19
2 97.4% assyrian (harappa) + 2.6% brahui (hgdp) @ 2.2
3 97.4% assyrian (harappa) + 2.6% balochi (hgdp) @ 2.22
4 99.1% assyrian (harappa) + 0.9% papuan (hgdp) @ 2.28
5 90.2% assyrian (harappa) + 9.8% kurd (xing) @ 2.28
6 99% assyrian (harappa) + 1% melanesian (hgdp) @ 2.32
7 99% assyrian (harappa) + 1% aus (reich) @ 2.34
8 97.8% assyrian (harappa) + 2.2% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.34
9 98.1% assyrian (harappa) + 1.9% sindhi (hgdp) @ 2.36
10 92.4% assyrian (harappa) + 7.6% kurd (harappa) @ 2.37
11 93.6% assyrian (harappa) + 6.4% iranian (behar) @ 2.38
12 98.3% assyrian (harappa) + 1.7% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 2.38
13 98.2% assyrian (harappa) + 1.8% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.39
14 98.1% assyrian (harappa) + 1.9% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.4
15 98.2% assyrian (harappa) + 1.8% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.41
16 98.3% assyrian (harappa) + 1.7% burusho (hgdp) @ 2.41
17 98.3% assyrian (harappa) + 1.7% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 2.41
18 98.5% assyrian (harappa) + 1.5% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 2.42
19 98.5% assyrian (harappa) + 1.5% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 2.43
20 98.3% assyrian (harappa) + 1.7% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 2.43
#2
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 50.11
2 Baloch 21.77
3 SW-Asian 15.54
4 Mediterranean 7.55
5 W-African 2.41
6 S-Indian 1.38
7 Siberian 1.07
8 Pygmy 0.18
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 assyrian (harappa) 4.6
2 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 6.04
3 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 6.44
4 armenian (harappa) 7.07
5 iranian-jew (behar) 7.11
6 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 7.29
7 georgia-jew (behar) 7.67
8 armenian (yunusbayev) 8.3
9 kurd (yunusbayev) 8.86
10 iraq-jew (behar) 9.09
11 kurd (xing) 9.72
12 kurd (harappa) 10.53
13 turkish (harappa) 10.53
14 armenian (behar) 10.64
15 azeri (harappa) 10.97
16 lebanese-druze (haber) 12.13
17 iranian (harappa) 12.37
18 iranian (behar) 12.49
19 turk (behar) 12.49
20 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 12.67
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.3% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 10.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 2.88
2 90.4% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 9.6% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.11
3 89.9% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 10.1% balochi (hgdp) @ 3.15
4 93.3% assyrian (harappa) + 6.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 3.34
5 93.7% assyrian (harappa) + 6.3% balochi (hgdp) @ 3.4
6 93.4% assyrian (harappa) + 6.6% kalash (hgdp) @ 3.45
7 95.7% assyrian (harappa) + 4.3% siddi (reich) @ 3.45
8 94.4% assyrian (harappa) + 5.6% sindhi (hgdp) @ 3.45
9 94.1% assyrian (harappa) + 5.9% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.46
10 80.1% assyrian (harappa) + 19.9% iranian (harappa) @ 3.52
11 94.6% assyrian (harappa) + 5.4% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 3.53
12 94.3% assyrian (harappa) + 5.7% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.54
13 71% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 29% iranian (behar) @ 3.55
14 80.4% assyrian (harappa) + 19.6% iranian (behar) @ 3.56
15 93.8% assyrian (harappa) + 6.2% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.56
16 94.1% assyrian (harappa) + 5.9% sindhi (harappa) @ 3.59
17 94.3% assyrian (harappa) + 5.7% burusho (hgdp) @ 3.59
18 94.6% assyrian (harappa) + 5.4% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 3.6
19 94.9% assyrian (harappa) + 5.1% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 3.61
20 94.8% assyrian (harappa) + 5.2% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 3.61Very interesting but I have seen very different results. Where is it from? These people are not from Copper Age Iran.
Here are some legit Copper Age Iranian samples:
M595455 I1670 Iran Chalcolithic [4839-4617 BC] U3a'c -
M902476 I1662 Iran Chalcolithic [4831-4612 BC] K1a12a J2a-M410>PF5008
M155294 I1674 Iran Chalcolithic [3972-3800 BC] I1c G1-M342>GG372
M873184 I1665 Iran Chalcolithic [3956-3796 BC] U7a -
When we take one of those samples, no matter what sample, then I get results like these:
M155294
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 51.95
2 Baloch 31.86
3 SW-Asian 14.26
4 Mediterranean 1.93
# Population (source) Distance
1 kurd (xing) 9.52
2 kurd (yunusbayev) 10.03
3 kurd (harappa) 13.15
4 assyrian (harappa) 13.26
5 iranian (harappa) 13.33
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.7% kurd (xing) + 16.3% georgian (behar) @ 8.24
2 83.7% kurd (xing) + 16.3% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 8.42
3 72.9% georgian (harappa) + 27.1% makrani (hgdp) @ 8.85
4 75.1% georgian (harappa) + 24.9% brahui (hgdp) @ 9.09
5 76.4% armenian (yunusbayev) + 23.6% makrani (hgdp) @ 9.22
6 80.3% kurd (xing) + 19.7% assyrian (harappa) @ 9.23
7 83.5% kurd (xing) + 16.5% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 9.25
8 85.9% kurd (xing) + 14.1% armenian (behar) @ 9.25
Eline
08-31-2019, 11:20 PM
M873184 I1665 Iran Chalcolithic [3956-3796 BC] U7a -
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 54.29
2 Baloch 29.2
3 SW-Asian 16.36
4 Papuan 0.15
# Population (source) Distance
1 kurd (xing) 11.42
2 kurd (yunusbayev) 11.69
3 assyrian (harappa) 12.13
4 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 13.23
5 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 13.25
M595455 I1670 Iran Chalcolithic [4839-4617 BC] U3a'c -
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 48.69
2 Baloch 36.51
3 SW-Asian 8.78
4 Mediterranean 4.94
5 American 0.57
6 E-African 0.44
7 San 0.08
# Population (source) Distance
1 kurd (xing) 11.02
2 kurd (yunusbayev) 11.57
3 iranian (harappa) 13.07
4 kurd (harappa) 13.85
5 iranian (behar) 14.49
Eline
08-31-2019, 11:24 PM
More old Iranian samples:
M381564 F38 Iran EIA [971-832 BC] N1a3a R1b-Z2103>L584>Y23838
T637158 I1955 Iran Late Medieval [1430–1485 AD] U1a1 -
M825671 I1293 Iran Mesolithic [9100-8600 BC] HV2 J2a-M410>CTS1085
M124870 Iran Chalcolithic
M595455 I1670 Iran Chalcolithic [4839-4617 BC] U3a'c -
M902476 I1662 Iran Chalcolithic [4831-4612 BC] K1a12a J2a-M410>PF5008
M155294 I1674 Iran Chalcolithic [3972-3800 BC] I1c G1-M342>GG372
M873184 I1665 Iran Chalcolithic [3956-3796 BC] U7a -
Eline
08-31-2019, 11:27 PM
M124870 Iran Chalcolithic
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 49.91
2 Baloch 37.89
3 SW-Asian 10.97
4 S-Indian 0.98
5 W-African 0.25
# Population (source) Distance
1 kurd (xing) 12.58
2 kurd (yunusbayev) 13.45
3 iranian (harappa) 14.94
4 iranian (behar) 15.79
5 kurd (harappa) 15.86
Very interesting but I have seen very different results. Where is it from? These people are not from Copper Age Iran.
Copied from anthrogenica forum. Maybe from NW Iran? But could be non-legit also..
hussein khan
09-02-2019, 03:42 PM
Half mashdad iranian, half kabuli:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 36.07
2 South_Asian 21.64
3 East_Med 17.7
4 Baltic 8.52
5 West_Med 3.97
6 Red_Sea 3.38
7 Siberian 3.29
8 North_Atlantic 1.92
9 East_Asian 1.79
10 Oceanian 1.27
11 Sub-Saharan 0.44
12 Amerindian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Pashtun 12.62
2 Afghan_Tadjik 13.33
3 Turkmen 14.52
4 Tadjik 14.65
5 Iranian 15.65
6 Makrani 16.63
7 Azeri 16.92
8 Kurdish 17.47
9 Kumyk 17.86
10 Pathan 19.85
11 Adygei 20.4
12 Kabardin 20.68
13 Balkar 20.85
14 Balochi 20.95
15 Kalash 21.02
16 Turkish 21.21
17 Brahui 21.23
18 Chechen 21.23
19 Burusho 21.32
20 Lezgin 21.33
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.1% Azeri + 45.9% Pathan @ 3.17
2 54.2% Burusho + 45.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.36
3 58% Iranian + 42% Burusho @ 3.64
4 55.9% Burusho + 44.1% Assyrian @ 3.76
5 56.1% Pathan + 43.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.96
6 55.2% Kurdish + 44.8% Burusho @ 4.29
7 56.1% Azeri + 43.9% Burusho @ 4.31
8 56.3% Iranian + 43.7% Pathan @ 4.31
9 51.7% Pathan + 48.3% Turkish @ 4.41
10 56.8% Burusho + 43.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.42
11 58% Burusho + 42% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.43
12 53.4% Kurdish + 46.6% Pathan @ 4.51
13 57.2% Kalash + 42.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.56
14 57.9% Pathan + 42.1% Assyrian @ 4.56
15 58.4% Kalash + 41.6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.64
16 64.4% Kalash + 35.6% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.65
17 60.3% Azeri + 39.7% Punjabi_Jat @ 4.67
18 53.9% Burusho + 46.1% Armenian @ 4.74
19 56.4% Kalash + 43.6% Assyrian @ 4.76
20 70.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 29.9% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.81
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 29.89
2 Caucasus 26.8
3 South_Asian 14.1
4 North_European 9.33
5 Southwest_Asian 7.92
6 Atlantic_Med 5.46
7 East_Asian 4.36
8 Siberian 1.65
9 Sub_Saharan 0.48
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 10.99
2 Iranians (Behar) 15.63
3 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 15.79
4 Iranian (Dodecad) 16.98
5 Kurd (Dodecad) 18.92
6 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 20.31
7 Pathan (HGDP) 22.2
8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 24.23
9 Burusho (HGDP) 24.8
10 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 25.4
11 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 25.63
12 Turks (Behar) 25.79
13 Lezgins (Behar) 26.96
14 Turkish (Dodecad) 27.33
15 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 28.8
16 Jatt (Dodecad) 30.12
17 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 30.91
18 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 31.03
19 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 31.16
20 Lebanese (Behar) 31.28
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56% Burusho (HGDP) + 44% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 3.05
2 50.6% Burusho (HGDP) + 49.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.11
3 59.2% Burusho (HGDP) + 40.8% Druze (HGDP) @ 3.15
4 56.2% Burusho (HGDP) + 43.8% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 3.43
5 57.3% Burusho (HGDP) + 42.7% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 3.58
6 55.6% Burusho (HGDP) + 44.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.6
7 56% Turks (Behar) + 44% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 3.63
8 51% Burusho (HGDP) + 49% Turks (Behar) @ 3.74
9 60.3% Burusho (HGDP) + 39.7% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.75
10 56.6% Burusho (HGDP) + 43.4% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 4.03
11 52.5% Burusho (HGDP) + 47.5% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 4.04
12 54.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.4% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 4.11
13 53.9% Pathan (HGDP) + 46.1% Turks (Behar) @ 4.22
14 54% Turks (Behar) + 46% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 4.23
15 55.3% Pathan (HGDP) + 44.7% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 4.34
16 56.6% Burusho (HGDP) + 43.4% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 4.43
17 66.8% Kurd (Dodecad) + 33.2% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 4.54
18 55.8% Burusho (HGDP) + 44.2% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 4.64
19 70.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 29.4% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 4.8
20 56% Burusho (HGDP) + 44% Lebanese (Behar) @ 4.82
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 29.99
2 Caucasian 28.82
3 S-Indian 13.39
4 NE-Euro 8.51
5 SW-Asian 7.53
6 Mediterranean 4.53
7 NE-Asian 3.82
8 Siberian 1.73
9 Papuan 1.23
10 W-African 0.33
11 American 0.13
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 turkmen (yunusbayev) 10.84
2 pashtun (harappa) 12.21
3 tajik (yunusbayev) 13.75
4 iranian (harappa) 14.94
5 iranian (behar) 15.36
6 kurd (harappa) 16.73
7 kalash (hgdp) 19.5
8 kurd (xing) 19.5
9 pathan (hgdp) 19.57
10 kurd (yunusbayev) 19.62
11 romanian-b (behar) 20.26
12 turkish (harappa) 20.3
13 azeri (harappa) 20.47
14 stalskoe (xing) 21.37
15 sindhi (harappa) 21.39
16 kashmiri (harappa) 21.91
17 iraqi-arab (harappa) 21.93
18 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 22.07
19 burusho (hgdp) 22.23
20 bene-israel-jew (behar) 22.27
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.7% burusho (hgdp) + 48.3% armenian (harappa) @ 2.13
2 67% iranian (harappa) + 33% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.32
3 57.7% burusho (hgdp) + 42.3% georgia-jew (behar) @ 2.62
4 51.6% burusho (hgdp) + 48.4% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 2.7
5 60.6% kurd (yunusbayev) + 39.4% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.71
6 51.3% turkish (harappa) + 48.7% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.71
7 52.3% turkish (harappa) + 47.7% burusho (hgdp) @ 2.75
8 64.5% kurd (harappa) + 35.5% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.8
9 57.4% burusho (hgdp) + 42.6% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 2.88
10 50.9% pathan (hgdp) + 49.1% turkish (harappa) @ 2.99
11 52.9% sindhi (harappa) + 47.1% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 3.03
12 56.2% burusho (hgdp) + 43.8% assyrian (harappa) @ 3.06
13 53.1% sindhi (harappa) + 46.9% turk (behar) @ 3.11
14 54.5% turkish (harappa) + 45.5% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.12
15 52.3% sindhi (harappa) + 47.7% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 3.26
16 54.9% pathan (hgdp) + 45.1% armenian (harappa) @ 3.34
17 66.7% pashtun (harappa) + 33.3% armenian (harappa) @ 3.38
18 57.3% kurd (harappa) + 42.7% burusho (hgdp) @ 3.39
19 50.2% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 49.8% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.48
20 59.8% iranian (harappa) + 40.2% kashmiri (harappa) @ 3.48
hussein khan
09-02-2019, 03:56 PM
apparently a persian not claiming to be part turkmen....
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 31.97
2 Baloch 24.24
3 SW-Asian 9.19
4 NE-Euro 7.5
5 Mediterranean 5.76
6 NE-Asian 5.74
7 Siberian 5.18
8 S-Indian 5.1
9 SE-Asian 1.63
10 Papuan 0.97
11 American 0.77
12 Beringian 0.57
13 W-African 0.49
14 Pygmy 0.48
15 San 0.24
16 E-African 0.19
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 turkmen (yunusbayev) 5.22
2 iranian (harappa) 10.25
3 iranian (behar) 11.38
4 kurd (harappa) 11.53
5 turkish (harappa) 12.96
6 azeri (harappa) 13.86
7 kurd (yunusbayev) 14.73
8 kurd (xing) 14.75
9 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 15.97
10 tajik (yunusbayev) 16.09
11 iraqi-arab (harappa) 16.27
12 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 16.31
13 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 16.54
14 turk (behar) 16.66
15 armenian (harappa) 17.32
16 stalskoe (xing) 17.41
17 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 17.71
18 kumyk (yunusbayev) 18.14
19 nogai (yunusbayev) 18.51
20 pashtun (harappa) 21.03
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 23% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 1.96
2 83.4% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 16.6% iraq-jew (behar) @ 2.22
3 81.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 18.1% palestinian (harappa) @ 2.25
4 82.8% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 17.2% lebanese-muslim (haber) @ 2.29
5 82.3% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 17.7% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 2.29
6 78.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 21.1% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 2.31
7 85.1% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 14.9% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 2.33
8 83.1% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 16.9% lebanese (behar) @ 2.35
9 84.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 15.5% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 2.36
10 82.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 17.1% syrian (behar) @ 2.38
11 70.8% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 29.2% kurd (harappa) @ 2.39
12 83.1% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 16.9% iranian-jew (behar) @ 2.39
13 70.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 29.1% iranian (behar) @ 2.56
14 83.1% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 16.9% assyrian (harappa) @ 2.58
15 88% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 12% samaritian (behar) @ 2.6
16 85.3% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 14.7% jordanian (behar) @ 2.62
17 73.8% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 26.2% turkish (harappa) @ 2.63
18 84% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 16% georgia-jew (behar) @ 2.63
19 84.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 15.8% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 2.75
20 86.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 13.8% cypriot (behar) @ 2.88
hussein khan
09-02-2019, 04:03 PM
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 30.23
2 Caucasian 28.69
3 SW-Asian 9.56
4 S-Indian 9.38
5 NE-Euro 8.79
6 Mediterranean 5.53
7 Siberian 2.97
8 NE-Asian 2.45
9 Beringian 1.14
10 American 0.75
11 SE-Asian 0.38
12 E-African 0.08
13 San 0.03
14 Papuan 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 turkmen (yunusbayev) 9.21
2 iranian (harappa) 12.78
3 iranian (behar) 12.89
4 tajik (yunusbayev) 13.19
5 kurd (harappa) 14.39
6 pashtun (harappa) 14.44
7 kurd (xing) 17.14
8 kurd (yunusbayev) 17.56
9 turkish (harappa) 18.41
10 azeri (harappa) 18.87
11 iraqi-arab (harappa) 19.66
12 stalskoe (xing) 19.93
13 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 21.59
14 kalash (hgdp) 21.62
15 romanian-b (behar) 21.66
16 pathan (hgdp) 21.81
17 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 21.81
18 armenian (harappa) 22.03
19 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 22.2
20 kumyk (yunusbayev) 22.39
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.8% kurd (harappa) + 34.2% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.59
2 63.7% kurd (harappa) + 36.3% burusho (hgdp) @ 3.6
3 68.6% iranian (harappa) + 31.4% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.61
4 59% turkish (harappa) + 41% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.68
5 50.1% kurd (harappa) + 49.9% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.71
6 68.5% iranian (behar) + 31.5% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.73
7 53.4% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 46.6% burusho (hgdp) @ 3.85
8 54.4% turkish (harappa) + 45.6% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.97
9 65.7% kurd (harappa) + 34.3% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.98
10 53.1% iranian (behar) + 46.9% pashtun (harappa) @ 4.01
11 68.6% iranian (harappa) + 31.4% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 4.04
12 70.2% kurd (harappa) + 29.8% nepalese-a (xing) @ 4.06
13 72.9% iranian (harappa) + 27.1% nepalese-a (xing) @ 4.07
14 66.6% iranian (behar) + 33.4% burusho (hgdp) @ 4.24
15 54.4% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 45.6% balochi (hgdp) @ 4.25
16 60.9% kurd (harappa) + 39.1% pathan (hgdp) @ 4.26
17 60.5% pashtun (harappa) + 39.5% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 4.27
18 54.3% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 45.7% bhatia (harappa) @ 4.27
19 57.6% turkish (harappa) + 42.4% burusho (hgdp) @ 4.38
20 56.5% pashtun (harappa) + 43.5% turkish (harappa) @ 4.41
either a bandari or some kind of northeast iranian...
apparently a persian not claiming to be part turkmen....
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 31.97
2 Baloch 24.24
3 SW-Asian 9.19
4 NE-Euro 7.5
5 Mediterranean 5.76
6 NE-Asian 5.74
7 Siberian 5.18
8 S-Indian 5.1
9 SE-Asian 1.63
10 Papuan 0.97
11 American 0.77
12 Beringian 0.57
13 W-African 0.49
14 Pygmy 0.48
15 San 0.24
16 E-African 0.19
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 turkmen (yunusbayev) 5.22
2 iranian (harappa) 10.25
3 iranian (behar) 11.38
4 kurd (harappa) 11.53
5 turkish (harappa) 12.96
6 azeri (harappa) 13.86
7 kurd (yunusbayev) 14.73
8 kurd (xing) 14.75
9 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 15.97
10 tajik (yunusbayev) 16.09
11 iraqi-arab (harappa) 16.27
12 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 16.31
13 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 16.54
14 turk (behar) 16.66
15 armenian (harappa) 17.32
16 stalskoe (xing) 17.41
17 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 17.71
18 kumyk (yunusbayev) 18.14
19 nogai (yunusbayev) 18.51
20 pashtun (harappa) 21.03
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 23% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 1.96
2 83.4% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 16.6% iraq-jew (behar) @ 2.22
3 81.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 18.1% palestinian (harappa) @ 2.25
4 82.8% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 17.2% lebanese-muslim (haber) @ 2.29
5 82.3% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 17.7% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 2.29
6 78.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 21.1% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 2.31
7 85.1% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 14.9% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 2.33
8 83.1% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 16.9% lebanese (behar) @ 2.35
9 84.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 15.5% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 2.36
10 82.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 17.1% syrian (behar) @ 2.38
11 70.8% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 29.2% kurd (harappa) @ 2.39
12 83.1% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 16.9% iranian-jew (behar) @ 2.39
13 70.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 29.1% iranian (behar) @ 2.56
14 83.1% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 16.9% assyrian (harappa) @ 2.58
15 88% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 12% samaritian (behar) @ 2.6
16 85.3% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 14.7% jordanian (behar) @ 2.62
17 73.8% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 26.2% turkish (harappa) @ 2.63
18 84% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 16% georgia-jew (behar) @ 2.63
19 84.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 15.8% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 2.75
20 86.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 13.8% cypriot (behar) @ 2.88
from Mashhad?
hussein khan
09-02-2019, 04:08 PM
from Mashhad?
i dont knoww. he just said he's iranian persian. Nothing more
Oghuz
09-02-2019, 04:09 PM
i dont knoww. he just said he's iranian persian. Nothing more
clearly not Persian.
hussein khan
09-02-2019, 04:11 PM
clearly not Persian.
well, he claimed that.
But the thing is, sometimes people just happen to have the kits of their friends or something and by mistake claim it as theirs. I seen that happen a few time. I might ask this guy.
Oghuz
09-02-2019, 04:15 PM
well, he claimed that.
But the thing is, sometimes people just happen to have the kits of their friends or something and by mistake claim it as theirs. I seen that happen a few time. I might ask this guy.
from his results he seems to be a Turkment from Iraq
hussein khan
09-02-2019, 04:22 PM
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 36.37
2 Caucasian 27.54
3 SW-Asian 11.8
4 S-Indian 11.79
5 NE-Euro 6.74
6 W-African 2.56
7 Beringian 0.79
8 E-African 0.76
9 Pygmy 0.41
10 American 0.4
11 Papuan 0.4
12 Siberian 0.39
13 San 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 pashtun (harappa) 13.29
2 iranian (behar) 16.01
3 turkmen (yunusbayev) 16.84
4 iranian (harappa) 17.22
5 tajik (yunusbayev) 17.6
6 kalash (hgdp) 18.19
7 pathan (hgdp) 18.74
8 kurd (harappa) 18.82
9 makrani (hgdp) 20.23
10 kurd (xing) 20.26
11 sindhi (harappa) 20.49
12 balochi (hgdp) 20.92
13 kurd (yunusbayev) 21.33
14 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 22.01
15 bhatia (harappa) 22.54
16 burusho (hgdp) 22.65
17 kashmiri (harappa) 22.89
18 iraqi-arab (harappa) 23.72
19 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 24.04
20 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 24.23
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59% iranian (behar) + 41% bhatia (harappa) @ 4.51
2 62.1% iranian (behar) + 37.9% sindhi (hgdp) @ 4.88
3 55.9% kurd (xing) + 44.1% sindhi (hgdp) @ 5.08
4 54.3% iranian (behar) + 45.7% pathan (hgdp) @ 5.11
5 56.7% iranian (behar) + 43.3% sindhi (harappa) @ 5.13
6 53.5% iranian (behar) + 46.5% kalash (hgdp) @ 5.29
7 56.2% bhatia (harappa) + 43.8% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 5.31
8 50.3% kurd (xing) + 49.7% sindhi (harappa) @ 5.43
9 52.8% kurd (xing) + 47.2% bhatia (harappa) @ 5.45
10 57.7% bhatia (harappa) + 42.3% iranian-jew (behar) @ 5.49
11 63.1% iranian (behar) + 36.9% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 5.61
12 61.9% kalash (hgdp) + 38.1% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 5.79
13 52.1% pathan (hgdp) + 47.9% kurd (xing) @ 5.88
14 61.2% pathan (hgdp) + 38.8% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 5.89
15 56.9% kurd (xing) + 43.1% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 5.93
16 58.7% bhatia (harappa) + 41.3% iraq-jew (behar) @ 5.94
17 53.5% bhatia (harappa) + 46.5% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 5.94
18 61.4% iranian (behar) + 38.6% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 6
19 54.9% kurd (harappa) + 45.1% bhatia (harappa) @ 6.09
20 63.4% kalash (hgdp) + 36.6% iranian-jew (behar) @ 6.1
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 40.16
2 Caucasian 27.12
3 S-Indian 11.11
4 SW-Asian 9.77
5 NE-Euro 6.09
6 Mediterranean 0.85
7 Pygmy 0.85
8 Beringian 0.82
9 American 0.78
10 E-African 0.77
11 NE-Asian 0.71
12 Siberian 0.62
13 SE-Asian 0.34
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 pashtun (harappa) 13.35
2 kalash (hgdp) 16.29
3 tajik (yunusbayev) 17.28
4 pathan (hgdp) 17.4
5 makrani (hgdp) 17.55
6 balochi (hgdp) 17.93
7 turkmen (yunusbayev) 17.97
8 iranian (behar) 18.13
9 iranian (harappa) 18.77
10 sindhi (harappa) 19.56
11 kurd (harappa) 20.6
12 bhatia (harappa) 20.77
13 burusho (hgdp) 21.23
14 brahui (hgdp) 21.37
15 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 21.45
16 kurd (xing) 21.72
17 kashmiri (harappa) 22.4
18 kurd (yunusbayev) 22.83
19 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 23.53
20 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 23.57
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.1% balochi (hgdp) + 39.9% azeri (harappa) @ 3.83
2 51.2% balochi (hgdp) + 48.8% iranian (harappa) @ 4.08
3 67.4% balochi (hgdp) + 32.6% armenian (behar) @ 4.64
4 53.7% balochi (hgdp) + 46.3% kurd (harappa) @ 4.67
5 55.7% brahui (hgdp) + 44.3% azeri (harappa) @ 4.76
6 64% balochi (hgdp) + 36% turk (behar) @ 4.78
7 67.5% balochi (hgdp) + 32.5% balkar (yunusbayev) @ 4.78
8 51.2% bhatia (harappa) + 48.8% kurd (xing) @ 4.83
9 68.5% balochi (hgdp) + 31.5% georgian (harappa) @ 4.84
10 50.3% balochi (hgdp) + 49.7% iranian (behar) @ 4.87
11 62.6% balochi (hgdp) + 37.4% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 4.87
12 67.6% balochi (hgdp) + 32.4% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 4.91
13 67.8% balochi (hgdp) + 32.2% adygei (hgdp) @ 4.91
14 60.4% balochi (hgdp) + 39.6% turkish (harappa) @ 5.03
15 63.9% balochi (hgdp) + 36.1% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 5.12
16 53.5% iranian (harappa) + 46.5% brahui (hgdp) @ 5.14
17 52.6% kurd (xing) + 47.4% sindhi (hgdp) @ 5.18
18 72.3% balochi (hgdp) + 27.7% druze (hgdp) @ 5.21
19 61% makrani (hgdp) + 39% azeri (harappa) @ 5.26
20 64.1% balochi (hgdp) + 35.9% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 5.27
Some south east iranians...
dmix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 29.3
2 Baloch 28.44
3 S-Indian 16.22
4 SW-Asian 13.95
5 Mediterranean 7.07
6 NE-Euro 3.59
7 Beringian 0.91
8 San 0.46
9 American 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 14.33
2 iranian (harappa) 15.8
3 kurd (harappa) 16.29
4 pashtun (harappa) 16.9
5 turkmen (yunusbayev) 17.12
6 iraqi-arab (harappa) 18.07
7 kurd (xing) 19.42
8 bene-israel-jew (behar) 19.59
9 kurd (yunusbayev) 19.75
10 romanian-b (behar) 19.88
11 turkish (harappa) 20.5
12 azeri (harappa) 21.58
13 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 21.66
14 tajik (yunusbayev) 21.78
15 armenian (harappa) 22.2
16 pathan (hgdp) 23.26
17 kalash (hgdp) 23.72
18 palestinian (harappa) 23.84
19 sindhi (harappa) 23.95
20 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 24.31
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.9% iraq-jew (behar) + 46.1% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 2.2
2 53% iraq-jew (behar) + 47% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 2.43
3 51% sindhi (hgdp) + 49% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 2.48
4 53.2% iraq-jew (behar) + 46.8% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 2.64
5 50.9% punjabi-arain (xing) + 49.1% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 2.69
6 51.3% iraq-jew (behar) + 48.7% punjabi (harappa) @ 2.87
7 52.4% iraq-jew (behar) + 47.6% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 2.97
8 56% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 44% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 3.03
9 52.9% iraq-jew (behar) + 47.1% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.04
10 54.8% sindhi (hgdp) + 45.2% samaritian (behar) @ 3.16
11 50.6% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) + 49.4% iraq-jew (behar) @ 3.18
12 58.7% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 41.3% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.2
13 50.3% sindhi (hgdp) + 49.7% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 3.2
14 52% gujarati-muslim (harappa) + 48% iraq-jew (behar) @ 3.21
15 60.8% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 39.2% gujarati-b (hapmap) @ 3.24
16 55.1% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 44.9% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 3.31
17 54.7% punjabi-arain (xing) + 45.3% samaritian (behar) @ 3.32
18 54.4% iranian-jew (behar) + 45.6% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 3.33
19 55.3% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 44.7% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 3.36
20 53% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 47% up-muslim (harappa) @ 3.43
a parsi from india...
hussein khan
09-02-2019, 04:30 PM
more south east iranians:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 42.02
2 Caucasian 24.96
3 S-Indian 13.66
4 SW-Asian 10.75
5 NE-Euro 4.34
6 Beringian 1.82
7 SE-Asian 0.8
8 American 0.79
9 San 0.27
10 Pygmy 0.2
11 E-African 0.18
12 W-African 0.17
13 Papuan 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 pashtun (harappa) 13.33
2 kalash (hgdp) 14.98
3 makrani (hgdp) 15.19
4 balochi (hgdp) 15.26
5 pathan (hgdp) 15.94
6 sindhi (harappa) 17.51
7 bhatia (harappa) 18.81
8 brahui (hgdp) 18.87
9 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 19.7
10 tajik (yunusbayev) 19.92
11 burusho (hgdp) 19.95
12 kashmiri (harappa) 20.78
13 iranian (behar) 21.16
14 sindhi (hgdp) 21.25
15 turkmen (yunusbayev) 21.29
16 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 21.43
17 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 21.8
18 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 21.87
19 iranian (harappa) 22.12
20 punjabi-arain (xing) 22.52
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.8% balochi (hgdp) + 23.2% druze (hgdp) @ 5.01
2 60% balochi (hgdp) + 40% iranian (harappa) @ 5.32
3 67.4% balochi (hgdp) + 32.6% azeri (harappa) @ 5.33
4 58.9% balochi (hgdp) + 41.1% iranian (behar) @ 5.41
5 61.9% balochi (hgdp) + 38.1% kurd (harappa) @ 5.52
6 72.1% balochi (hgdp) + 27.9% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 5.53
7 72.4% balochi (hgdp) + 27.6% georgia-jew (behar) @ 5.54
8 73.3% balochi (hgdp) + 26.7% armenian (behar) @ 5.6
9 68.2% balochi (hgdp) + 31.8% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 5.67
10 74.2% balochi (hgdp) + 25.8% georgian (harappa) @ 5.69
11 71.2% balochi (hgdp) + 28.8% assyrian (harappa) @ 5.9
12 74.1% balochi (hgdp) + 25.9% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 6
13 67.8% balochi (hgdp) + 32.2% turkish (harappa) @ 6.01
14 71.2% balochi (hgdp) + 28.8% iranian-jew (behar) @ 6.03
15 70.9% balochi (hgdp) + 29.1% turk (behar) @ 6.1
16 70.1% balochi (hgdp) + 29.9% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 6.12
17 54.3% sindhi (hgdp) + 45.7% kurd (xing) @ 6.19
18 72% balochi (hgdp) + 28% iraq-jew (behar) @ 6.3
19 78% balochi (hgdp) + 22% georgian (behar) @ 6.3
20 77.2% balochi (hgdp) + 22.8% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 6.31
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 43.8
2 Caucasian 21.58
3 S-Indian 13.49
4 SW-Asian 9.86
5 NE-Euro 3.2
6 Mediterranean 2.94
7 W-African 2.04
8 E-African 0.87
9 SE-Asian 0.84
10 Papuan 0.46
11 American 0.4
12 Siberian 0.29
13 Pygmy 0.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 makrani (hgdp) 11.63
2 balochi (hgdp) 11.84
3 pashtun (harappa) 14.11
4 kalash (hgdp) 14.54
5 pathan (hgdp) 15.1
6 brahui (hgdp) 15.56
7 sindhi (harappa) 16.67
8 bhatia (harappa) 17.26
9 burusho (hgdp) 18.76
10 sindhi (hgdp) 19.08
11 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 19.3
12 kashmiri (harappa) 20.19
13 tajik (yunusbayev) 20.53
14 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 20.55
15 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 20.65
16 punjabi-arain (xing) 20.72
17 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 21.04
18 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 22.29
19 punjabi (harappa) 22.48
20 turkmen (yunusbayev) 23.03
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.5% balochi (hgdp) + 18.5% druze (hgdp) @ 2.8
2 79% balochi (hgdp) + 21% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 3.37
3 74% balochi (hgdp) + 26% turkish (harappa) @ 3.47
4 78% balochi (hgdp) + 22% lebanese-muslim (haber) @ 3.47
5 67.4% balochi (hgdp) + 32.6% iranian (behar) @ 3.48
6 74.2% balochi (hgdp) + 25.8% azeri (harappa) @ 3.51
7 78.1% balochi (hgdp) + 21.9% georgia-jew (behar) @ 3.6
8 69.8% balochi (hgdp) + 30.2% kurd (harappa) @ 3.6
9 77.9% balochi (hgdp) + 22.1% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 3.62
10 79.5% balochi (hgdp) + 20.5% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 3.62
11 76.6% balochi (hgdp) + 23.4% turk (behar) @ 3.65
12 76.5% balochi (hgdp) + 23.5% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 3.69
13 74.7% balochi (hgdp) + 25.3% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 3.69
14 80.3% balochi (hgdp) + 19.7% cypriot (behar) @ 3.7
15 78.9% balochi (hgdp) + 21.1% armenian (behar) @ 3.8
16 76.5% balochi (hgdp) + 23.5% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 3.87
17 73.3% balochi (hgdp) + 26.7% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 3.88
18 77.2% balochi (hgdp) + 22.8% assyrian (harappa) @ 3.92
19 77.5% balochi (hgdp) + 22.5% syrian (behar) @ 4.05
20 78.2% balochi (hgdp) + 21.8% lebanese (behar) @ 4.06
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 35.07
2 Caucasian 23.24
3 SW-Asian 13.91
4 S-Indian 13.34
5 NE-Euro 5.27
6 W-African 4.43
7 Mediterranean 2.16
8 E-African 0.92
9 Pygmy 0.84
10 San 0.52
11 American 0.15
12 Siberian 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 pashtun (harappa) 13.42
2 iranian (behar) 18.28
3 pathan (hgdp) 18.43
4 turkmen (yunusbayev) 18.68
5 kalash (hgdp) 18.9
6 tajik (yunusbayev) 19.05
7 makrani (hgdp) 19.42
8 sindhi (harappa) 19.51
9 balochi (hgdp) 20.22
10 iranian (harappa) 20.24
11 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 21.13
12 kurd (harappa) 21.32
13 kashmiri (harappa) 21.76
14 bhatia (harappa) 21.9
15 burusho (hgdp) 21.95
16 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 22.34
17 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 22.62
18 bene-israel-jew (behar) 22.83
19 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 22.95
20 kurd (xing) 23.34
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.7% kalash (hgdp) + 34.3% yemenese (behar) @ 5.8
2 57.2% iranian (behar) + 42.8% sindhi (hgdp) @ 6.13
3 50.3% sindhi (hgdp) + 49.7% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 6.16
4 55.9% sindhi (hgdp) + 44.1% palestinian (harappa) @ 6.25
5 52.5% bhatia (harappa) + 47.5% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 6.27
6 58.1% bhatia (harappa) + 41.9% palestinian (harappa) @ 6.34
7 57.2% sindhi (hgdp) + 42.8% syrian (behar) @ 6.62
8 61.6% bhatia (harappa) + 38.4% jordanian (behar) @ 6.63
9 73.3% kalash (hgdp) + 26.7% yemen-jew (behar) @ 6.64
10 59.4% bhatia (harappa) + 40.6% syrian (behar) @ 6.66
11 56.4% sindhi (hgdp) + 43.6% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 6.7
12 61.6% balochi (hgdp) + 38.4% syrian (behar) @ 6.82
13 58.4% sindhi (hgdp) + 41.6% iraq-jew (behar) @ 6.84
14 58.4% iranian (behar) + 41.6% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 6.95
15 57.9% sindhi (hgdp) + 42.1% iranian-jew (behar) @ 6.96
16 74.1% kalash (hgdp) + 25.9% saudi (behar) @ 6.97
17 54.8% balochi (hgdp) + 45.2% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 7.05
18 54.1% sindhi (hgdp) + 45.9% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 7.06
19 73.6% kalash (hgdp) + 26.4% bedouin (hgdp) @ 7.11
20 51.9% iranian (behar) + 48.1% sindhi (harappa) @ 7.11
all assumingly iranian balochis....
i dont knoww. he just said he's iranian persian. Nothing more
I know a guy who is half azeri half turkmen but he thinks he's just persian :D Persian nationalistic inception
Oghuz
09-02-2019, 04:44 PM
I know a guy who is half azeri half turkmen but he thinks he's just persian :D Persian nationalistic inception
Its pretty much similar to how most ethnically non Arabs Arab speakers think they descend from Proto Arabids.
I know a guy who is half azeri half turkmen but he thinks he's just persian :D Persian nationalistic inception
In Iran there is no extreme multiculturalism like in the West with a lot of migrant communities with vastly different cultures and lack of social cohesion. In Iran they all are historical communities, all are Muslim and Persian language and culture have been dominant in the region for hundreds of years. So nothing surprising about that. Ethnicity in the Muslim world used to be and probably still is perceived in a different way than in European societies. Persianate culture used to be held in high regard from Iraq all the way to India.
clearly not Persian.
how do you know? I haven't seen confirmed results from Northeastern Persians or southeastern Persians (Kerman etc..) yet.
Would be interesting to see how Persians cluster together or if they just got persianized since the Achaemenids.
either a bandari or some kind of northeast iranian...
What does he get on Eurogenes?
hussein khan
09-03-2019, 02:43 PM
What does he get on Eurogenes?
His results on eurogenes:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 35.4
2 East_Med 20.37
3 South_Asian 9.61
4 Siberian 6.91
5 East_Asian 5.14
6 West_Med 5.11
7 Red_Sea 4.48
8 North_Atlantic 4.41
9 Baltic 3.84
10 Sub-Saharan 2.18
11 Oceanian 1.16
12 Amerindian 0.87
13 Northeast_African 0.53
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmen 7.3
2 Azeri 9.43
3 Iranian 12.04
4 Kurdish 12.43
5 Kumyk 12.67
6 Turkish 12.86
7 Afghan_Tadjik 14.77
8 Balkar 14.95
9 Kabardin 16.02
10 Ossetian 16.13
11 Adygei 16.19
12 Tadjik 16.71
13 North_Ossetian 17.14
14 Nogay 17.93
15 Armenian 18.22
16 Chechen 18.53
17 Georgian 18.87
18 Georgian_Jewish 18.93
19 Lezgin 19.1
20 Abhkasian 20.09
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.6% Kurdish + 31.4% Aghan_Hazara @ 3.26
2 72.3% Kurdish + 27.7% Hazara @ 3.63
3 62.5% Azeri + 37.5% Afghan_Tadjik @ 3.97
4 69.7% Iranian + 30.3% Aghan_Hazara @ 4.05
5 56.6% Afghan_Tadjik + 43.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.15
6 70.3% Kurdish + 29.7% Uzbeki @ 4.18
7 73.1% Kurdish + 26.9% Uygur @ 4.25
8 55.6% Afghan_Tadjik + 44.4% Armenian @ 4.27
9 73.4% Iranian + 26.6% Hazara @ 4.42
10 66% Turkmen + 34% Iranian @ 4.47
11 67% Turkmen + 33% Kurdish @ 4.54
12 59.1% Afghan_Tadjik + 40.9% Assyrian @ 4.57
13 74.1% Iranian + 25.9% Uygur @ 4.66
14 76.2% Turkmen + 23.8% Armenian @ 4.79
15 59.6% Turkmen + 40.4% Azeri @ 4.81
16 69.4% Kurdish + 30.6% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.81
17 76.2% Azeri + 23.8% Aghan_Hazara @ 4.81
18 61% Iranian + 39% Nogay @ 4.82
19 61.9% Afghan_Tadjik + 38.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.83
20 77.3% Turkmen + 22.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.95
docedad 12k
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.02
2 Gedrosia 25.11
3 Southwest_Asian 10.68
4 North_European 8.37
5 Atlantic_Med 7.44
6 East_Asian 6.71
7 South_Asian 5.56
8 Siberian 4.89
9 Southeast_Asian 1.7
10 Sub_Saharan 1.19
11 East_African 0.33
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 6.11
2 Iranians (Behar) 13.48
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 14.04
4 Kurd (Dodecad) 14.82
5 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 16.47
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 17.34
7 Turks (Behar) 19.7
8 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 20.35
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 21.28
10 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 21.89
11 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 23.17
12 Lebanese (Behar) 24.86
13 Syrians (Behar) 25.63
14 Lezgins (Behar) 25.95
15 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 26.05
16 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 26.16
17 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 26.45
18 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 26.66
19 Assyrian (Dodecad) 26.77
20 Jordanians (Behar) 27.5
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 3.07
2 82.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 17.2% Syrians (Behar) @ 3.1
3 85.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 14.7% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.18
4 87.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.9% Yemenese (Behar) @ 3.21
5 84% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 16% Jordanians (Behar) @ 3.22
6 87.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.8% Egyptans (Behar) @ 3.39
7 86% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 14% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.6
8 90.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 9.1% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 3.62
9 83.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 16.5% Lebanese (Behar) @ 3.69
10 92.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 7.5% Saudis (Behar) @ 3.78
11 86.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 13.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.88
12 68% Iranians (Behar) + 32% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 4
13 88.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 11.3% Samaritians (Behar) @ 4.03
14 87.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.7% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.33
15 87.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 4.35
16 87.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 4.4
17 88% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 4.41
18 88.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 11.9% Cypriots (Behar) @ 4.44
19 86.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 13.6% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 4.49
20 87.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 4.51
Thing is though he didnt want to share more about himself, as he didnt feel comfortable about sharing that info to strangers...
hussein khan
09-03-2019, 02:55 PM
What does he get on Eurogenes?
anyways, his results on k13 and docedad:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 35.4
2 East_Med 20.37
3 South_Asian 9.61
4 Siberian 6.91
5 East_Asian 5.14
6 West_Med 5.11
7 Red_Sea 4.48
8 North_Atlantic 4.41
9 Baltic 3.84
10 Sub-Saharan 2.18
11 Oceanian 1.16
12 Amerindian 0.87
13 Northeast_African 0.53
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmen 7.3
2 Azeri 9.43
3 Iranian 12.04
4 Kurdish 12.43
5 Kumyk 12.67
6 Turkish 12.86
7 Afghan_Tadjik 14.77
8 Balkar 14.95
9 Kabardin 16.02
10 Ossetian 16.13
11 Adygei 16.19
12 Tadjik 16.71
13 North_Ossetian 17.14
14 Nogay 17.93
15 Armenian 18.22
16 Chechen 18.53
17 Georgian 18.87
18 Georgian_Jewish 18.93
19 Lezgin 19.1
20 Abhkasian 20.09
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.6% Kurdish + 31.4% Aghan_Hazara @ 3.26
2 72.3% Kurdish + 27.7% Hazara @ 3.63
3 62.5% Azeri + 37.5% Afghan_Tadjik @ 3.97
4 69.7% Iranian + 30.3% Aghan_Hazara @ 4.05
5 56.6% Afghan_Tadjik + 43.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.15
6 70.3% Kurdish + 29.7% Uzbeki @ 4.18
7 73.1% Kurdish + 26.9% Uygur @ 4.25
8 55.6% Afghan_Tadjik + 44.4% Armenian @ 4.27
9 73.4% Iranian + 26.6% Hazara @ 4.42
10 66% Turkmen + 34% Iranian @ 4.47
11 67% Turkmen + 33% Kurdish @ 4.54
12 59.1% Afghan_Tadjik + 40.9% Assyrian @ 4.57
13 74.1% Iranian + 25.9% Uygur @ 4.66
14 76.2% Turkmen + 23.8% Armenian @ 4.79
15 59.6% Turkmen + 40.4% Azeri @ 4.81
16 69.4% Kurdish + 30.6% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.81
17 76.2% Azeri + 23.8% Aghan_Hazara @ 4.81
18 61% Iranian + 39% Nogay @ 4.82
19 61.9% Afghan_Tadjik + 38.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.83
20 77.3% Turkmen + 22.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.95
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.02
2 Gedrosia 25.11
3 Southwest_Asian 10.68
4 North_European 8.37
5 Atlantic_Med 7.44
6 East_Asian 6.71
7 South_Asian 5.56
8 Siberian 4.89
9 Southeast_Asian 1.7
10 Sub_Saharan 1.19
11 East_African 0.33
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 6.11
2 Iranians (Behar) 13.48
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 14.04
4 Kurd (Dodecad) 14.82
5 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 16.47
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 17.34
7 Turks (Behar) 19.7
8 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 20.35
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 21.28
10 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 21.89
11 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 23.17
12 Lebanese (Behar) 24.86
13 Syrians (Behar) 25.63
14 Lezgins (Behar) 25.95
15 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 26.05
16 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 26.16
17 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 26.45
18 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 26.66
19 Assyrian (Dodecad) 26.77
20 Jordanians (Behar) 27.5
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 3.07
2 82.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 17.2% Syrians (Behar) @ 3.1
3 85.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 14.7% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.18
4 87.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.9% Yemenese (Behar) @ 3.21
5 84% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 16% Jordanians (Behar) @ 3.22
6 87.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.8% Egyptans (Behar) @ 3.39
7 86% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 14% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.6
8 90.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 9.1% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 3.62
9 83.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 16.5% Lebanese (Behar) @ 3.69
10 92.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 7.5% Saudis (Behar) @ 3.78
11 86.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 13.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.88
12 68% Iranians (Behar) + 32% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 4
13 88.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 11.3% Samaritians (Behar) @ 4.03
14 87.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.7% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.33
15 87.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 4.35
16 87.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 4.4
17 88% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 4.41
18 88.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 11.9% Cypriots (Behar) @ 4.44
19 86.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 13.6% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 4.49
20 87.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 4.51
unfortunatetly i couldnt get more out of this guy, as he didnt want to give more info about himself.
hussein khan
09-03-2019, 02:56 PM
What does he get on Eurogenes?
anyways, his results on k13 and docedad:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 35.4
2 East_Med 20.37
3 South_Asian 9.61
4 Siberian 6.91
5 East_Asian 5.14
6 West_Med 5.11
7 Red_Sea 4.48
8 North_Atlantic 4.41
9 Baltic 3.84
10 Sub-Saharan 2.18
11 Oceanian 1.16
12 Amerindian 0.87
13 Northeast_African 0.53
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmen 7.3
2 Azeri 9.43
3 Iranian 12.04
4 Kurdish 12.43
5 Kumyk 12.67
6 Turkish 12.86
7 Afghan_Tadjik 14.77
8 Balkar 14.95
9 Kabardin 16.02
10 Ossetian 16.13
11 Adygei 16.19
12 Tadjik 16.71
13 North_Ossetian 17.14
14 Nogay 17.93
15 Armenian 18.22
16 Chechen 18.53
17 Georgian 18.87
18 Georgian_Jewish 18.93
19 Lezgin 19.1
20 Abhkasian 20.09
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.6% Kurdish + 31.4% Aghan_Hazara @ 3.26
2 72.3% Kurdish + 27.7% Hazara @ 3.63
3 62.5% Azeri + 37.5% Afghan_Tadjik @ 3.97
4 69.7% Iranian + 30.3% Aghan_Hazara @ 4.05
5 56.6% Afghan_Tadjik + 43.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.15
6 70.3% Kurdish + 29.7% Uzbeki @ 4.18
7 73.1% Kurdish + 26.9% Uygur @ 4.25
8 55.6% Afghan_Tadjik + 44.4% Armenian @ 4.27
9 73.4% Iranian + 26.6% Hazara @ 4.42
10 66% Turkmen + 34% Iranian @ 4.47
11 67% Turkmen + 33% Kurdish @ 4.54
12 59.1% Afghan_Tadjik + 40.9% Assyrian @ 4.57
13 74.1% Iranian + 25.9% Uygur @ 4.66
14 76.2% Turkmen + 23.8% Armenian @ 4.79
15 59.6% Turkmen + 40.4% Azeri @ 4.81
16 69.4% Kurdish + 30.6% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.81
17 76.2% Azeri + 23.8% Aghan_Hazara @ 4.81
18 61% Iranian + 39% Nogay @ 4.82
19 61.9% Afghan_Tadjik + 38.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.83
20 77.3% Turkmen + 22.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.95
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.02
2 Gedrosia 25.11
3 Southwest_Asian 10.68
4 North_European 8.37
5 Atlantic_Med 7.44
6 East_Asian 6.71
7 South_Asian 5.56
8 Siberian 4.89
9 Southeast_Asian 1.7
10 Sub_Saharan 1.19
11 East_African 0.33
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 6.11
2 Iranians (Behar) 13.48
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 14.04
4 Kurd (Dodecad) 14.82
5 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 16.47
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 17.34
7 Turks (Behar) 19.7
8 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 20.35
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 21.28
10 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 21.89
11 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 23.17
12 Lebanese (Behar) 24.86
13 Syrians (Behar) 25.63
14 Lezgins (Behar) 25.95
15 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 26.05
16 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 26.16
17 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 26.45
18 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 26.66
19 Assyrian (Dodecad) 26.77
20 Jordanians (Behar) 27.5
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 3.07
2 82.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 17.2% Syrians (Behar) @ 3.1
3 85.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 14.7% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.18
4 87.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.9% Yemenese (Behar) @ 3.21
5 84% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 16% Jordanians (Behar) @ 3.22
6 87.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.8% Egyptans (Behar) @ 3.39
7 86% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 14% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.6
8 90.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 9.1% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 3.62
9 83.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 16.5% Lebanese (Behar) @ 3.69
10 92.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 7.5% Saudis (Behar) @ 3.78
11 86.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 13.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.88
12 68% Iranians (Behar) + 32% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 4
13 88.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 11.3% Samaritians (Behar) @ 4.03
14 87.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.7% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.33
15 87.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 4.35
16 87.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 4.4
17 88% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 4.41
18 88.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 11.9% Cypriots (Behar) @ 4.44
19 86.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 13.6% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 4.49
20 87.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 4.51
unfortunatetly i couldnt get more out of this guy, as he didnt want to give more info about himself.
unfortunatetly i couldnt get more out of this guy, as he didnt want to give more info about himself.
Probably Turkmen/Persian mix. But I cannot know for sure because I haven't seen Northeastern or Southeastern persian results yet...
Oghuz
09-03-2019, 03:40 PM
I wonder what a purest form of Persian, Lur, Kurd, Azeri Iranian, Pashtun, Baloch etc score like ? can someone post such results
hussein khan
09-03-2019, 03:44 PM
Probably Turkmen/Persian mix. But I cannot know for sure because I haven't seen Northeastern or Southeastern persian results yet...
I did post south easterner before though. Dont know how you didnt saw that?
Anyway, some kerman persian(north easterner):
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 30.43
2 Baloch 21.55
3 SW-Asian 11.46
4 Mediterranean 8.6
5 S-Indian 7.3
6 NE-Euro 6.81
7 NE-Asian 5.71
8 SE-Asian 2.48
9 Siberian 2.34
10 Beringian 1.61
11 E-African 1.2
12 Papuan 0.51
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 turkmen (yunusbayev) 9.62
2 iranian (harappa) 12.33
3 iranian (behar) 12.42
4 kurd (harappa) 12.66
5 turkish (harappa) 13.35
6 iraqi-arab (harappa) 14.21
7 azeri (harappa) 15.35
8 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 16.09
9 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 16.33
10 kurd (yunusbayev) 16.36
11 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 16.43
12 kurd (xing) 16.53
13 armenian (harappa) 16.84
14 turk (behar) 17.23
15 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 17.54
16 tajik (yunusbayev) 18.64
17 romanian-b (behar) 18.99
18 palestinian (harappa) 19.18
19 syrian (behar) 20.21
20 stalskoe (xing) 20.37
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61% lebanese (behar) + 39% burusho (hgdp) @ 5.09
2 60.5% lebanese-muslim (haber) + 39.5% burusho (hgdp) @ 5.33
3 52.6% tajik (yunusbayev) + 47.4% lebanese (behar) @ 5.38
4 79.4% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 20.6% egypt (henn2012) @ 5.46
5 74.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 25.8% jordanian (behar) @ 5.48
6 75.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 24.1% morocco-jew (behar) @ 5.48
7 62.4% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 37.6% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 5.5
8 55.6% cypriot (behar) + 44.4% burusho (hgdp) @ 5.54
9 71.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 28.5% lebanese (behar) @ 5.55
10 53.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 46.8% lebanese-muslim (haber) @ 5.55
11 76.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 23.5% palestinian (hgdp) @ 5.57
12 62.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 37.1% samaritian (behar) @ 5.57
13 57.7% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 42.3% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 5.67
14 75.9% turkish (harappa) + 24.1% nepalese-c (xing) @ 5.69
15 75.3% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 24.7% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 5.71
16 71.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 28.5% syrian (behar) @ 5.73
17 57.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 42.2% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 5.75
18 52.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 47.8% syrian (behar) @ 5.76
19 70.4% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 29.6% palestinian (harappa) @ 5.77
20 80% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 20% egyptian (behar) @ 5.82
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 30.23
2 Caucasian 28.69
3 SW-Asian 9.56
4 S-Indian 9.38
5 NE-Euro 8.79
6 Mediterranean 5.53
7 Siberian 2.97
8 NE-Asian 2.45
9 Beringian 1.14
10 American 0.75
11 SE-Asian 0.38
12 E-African 0.08
13 San 0.03
14 Papuan 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 turkmen (yunusbayev) 9.21
2 iranian (harappa) 12.78
3 iranian (behar) 12.89
4 tajik (yunusbayev) 13.19
5 kurd (harappa) 14.39
6 pashtun (harappa) 14.44
7 kurd (xing) 17.14
8 kurd (yunusbayev) 17.56
9 turkish (harappa) 18.41
10 azeri (harappa) 18.87
11 iraqi-arab (harappa) 19.66
12 stalskoe (xing) 19.93
13 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 21.59
14 kalash (hgdp) 21.62
15 romanian-b (behar) 21.66
16 pathan (hgdp) 21.81
17 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 21.81
18 armenian (harappa) 22.03
19 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 22.2
20 kumyk (yunusbayev) 22.39
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.8% kurd (harappa) + 34.2% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.59
2 63.7% kurd (harappa) + 36.3% burusho (hgdp) @ 3.6
3 68.6% iranian (harappa) + 31.4% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.61
4 59% turkish (harappa) + 41% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.68
5 50.1% kurd (harappa) + 49.9% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.71
6 68.5% iranian (behar) + 31.5% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.73
7 53.4% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 46.6% burusho (hgdp) @ 3.85
8 54.4% turkish (harappa) + 45.6% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.97
9 65.7% kurd (harappa) + 34.3% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.98
10 53.1% iranian (behar) + 46.9% pashtun (harappa) @ 4.01
11 68.6% iranian (harappa) + 31.4% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 4.04
12 70.2% kurd (harappa) + 29.8% nepalese-a (xing) @ 4.06
13 72.9% iranian (harappa) + 27.1% nepalese-a (xing) @ 4.07
14 66.6% iranian (behar) + 33.4% burusho (hgdp) @ 4.24
15 54.4% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 45.6% balochi (hgdp) @ 4.25
16 60.9% kurd (harappa) + 39.1% pathan (hgdp) @ 4.26
17 60.5% pashtun (harappa) + 39.5% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 4.27
18 54.3% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 45.7% bhatia (harappa) @ 4.27
19 57.6% turkish (harappa) + 42.4% burusho (hgdp) @ 4.38
20 56.5% pashtun (harappa) + 43.5% turkish (harappa) @ 4.41
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.51
2 Baloch 28.64
3 SW-Asian 12.4
4 S-Indian 7.66
5 NE-Euro 6.87
6 Mediterranean 4.07
7 Beringian 1.65
8 Siberian 1.51
9 Pygmy 0.75
10 SE-Asian 0.74
11 W-African 0.66
12 Papuan 0.4
13 E-African 0.14
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 6.59
2 iranian (harappa) 7.22
3 kurd (harappa) 8.49
4 kurd (xing) 11.06
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 11.64
6 turkmen (yunusbayev) 12.32
7 turkish (harappa) 14.01
8 azeri (harappa) 14.23
9 iraqi-arab (harappa) 14.82
10 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 15.54
11 armenian (harappa) 16.72
12 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 18.36
13 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 18.45
14 turk (behar) 18.51
15 stalskoe (xing) 18.95
16 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 19.28
17 tajik (yunusbayev) 19.34
18 kumyk (yunusbayev) 19.57
19 pashtun (harappa) 19.92
20 assyrian (harappa) 20.54
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.9% iranian (behar) + 24.1% pashtun (harappa) @ 1.95
2 83.9% iranian (behar) + 16.1% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 1.96
3 83.9% iranian (behar) + 16.1% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 2.31
4 82.9% iranian (behar) + 17.1% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 2.36
5 86.3% iranian (behar) + 13.7% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.47
6 81.6% iranian (behar) + 18.4% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.48
7 70.9% kurd (harappa) + 29.1% pashtun (harappa) @ 2.54
8 87.1% iranian (behar) + 12.9% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.56
9 85.4% iranian (behar) + 14.6% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.57
10 84% iranian (behar) + 16% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 2.6
11 79.9% kurd (harappa) + 20.1% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 2.6
12 78.2% kurd (harappa) + 21.8% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.62
13 84.7% iranian (behar) + 15.3% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 2.63
14 63.4% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 36.6% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.63
15 82.8% iranian (behar) + 17.2% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.67
16 81.5% iranian (behar) + 18.5% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.68
17 77.1% kurd (harappa) + 22.9% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.68
18 83.4% iranian (behar) + 16.6% kashmiri (harappa) @ 2.69
19 85.7% iranian (behar) + 14.3% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 2.69
20 63.9% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 36.1% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.69
although the first one might be part turkmen, while the second maybe a less south asian shifted indian parsi, the third one is 100% a kerman persian. Had another sample being labelled as kerman persian having 8% SI, 30% caucasian and 28% baloch. I seen another north easterner from anthrogenica et 8,5% SI. Guess kerman persians can range from 10-5% SI.
A south east iranian(for sure):
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 42.02
2 Caucasian 24.96
3 S-Indian 13.66
4 SW-Asian 10.75
5 NE-Euro 4.34
6 Beringian 1.82
7 SE-Asian 0.8
8 American 0.79
9 San 0.27
10 Pygmy 0.2
11 E-African 0.18
12 W-African 0.17
13 Papuan 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 pashtun (harappa) 13.33
2 kalash (hgdp) 14.98
3 makrani (hgdp) 15.19
4 balochi (hgdp) 15.26
5 pathan (hgdp) 15.94
6 sindhi (harappa) 17.51
7 bhatia (harappa) 18.81
8 brahui (hgdp) 18.87
9 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 19.7
10 tajik (yunusbayev) 19.92
11 burusho (hgdp) 19.95
12 kashmiri (harappa) 20.78
13 iranian (behar) 21.16
14 sindhi (hgdp) 21.25
15 turkmen (yunusbayev) 21.29
16 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 21.43
17 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 21.8
18 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 21.87
19 iranian (harappa) 22.12
20 punjabi-arain (xing) 22.52
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.8% balochi (hgdp) + 23.2% druze (hgdp) @ 5.01
2 60% balochi (hgdp) + 40% iranian (harappa) @ 5.32
3 67.4% balochi (hgdp) + 32.6% azeri (harappa) @ 5.33
4 58.9% balochi (hgdp) + 41.1% iranian (behar) @ 5.41
5 61.9% balochi (hgdp) + 38.1% kurd (harappa) @ 5.52
6 72.1% balochi (hgdp) + 27.9% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 5.53
7 72.4% balochi (hgdp) + 27.6% georgia-jew (behar) @ 5.54
8 73.3% balochi (hgdp) + 26.7% armenian (behar) @ 5.6
9 68.2% balochi (hgdp) + 31.8% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 5.67
10 74.2% balochi (hgdp) + 25.8% georgian (harappa) @ 5.69
11 71.2% balochi (hgdp) + 28.8% assyrian (harappa) @ 5.9
12 74.1% balochi (hgdp) + 25.9% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 6
13 67.8% balochi (hgdp) + 32.2% turkish (harappa) @ 6.01
14 71.2% balochi (hgdp) + 28.8% iranian-jew (behar) @ 6.03
15 70.9% balochi (hgdp) + 29.1% turk (behar) @ 6.1
16 70.1% balochi (hgdp) + 29.9% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 6.12
17 54.3% sindhi (hgdp) + 45.7% kurd (xing) @ 6.19
18 72% balochi (hgdp) + 28% iraq-jew (behar) @ 6.3
19 78% balochi (hgdp) + 22% georgian (behar) @ 6.3
20 77.2% balochi (hgdp) + 22.8% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 6.31
Thats a baloch though, but bandaris are considered persians too. And they can just be like this baloch, as they can be very similiar to kerman persians. But have never seen any bandari less south asian shifted than that. Theyre however compared to balochis and northeasterners/khorosanis slightly more african-shifted
Also, an iranian from esfahan and shiraz:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.12
2 Baloch 23.6
3 SW-Asian 11.94
4 NE-Euro 7.85
5 S-Indian 7.2
6 Mediterranean 5.43
7 W-African 1.35
8 American 1.08
9 NE-Asian 0.71
10 Siberian 0.47
11 San 0.24
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (harappa) 5.74
2 kurd (harappa) 5.86
3 iranian (behar) 6.66
4 kurd (yunusbayev) 7.9
5 azeri (harappa) 8.5
6 turkish (harappa) 8.56
7 kurd (xing) 8.68
8 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 10.79
9 armenian (harappa) 11.23
10 turk (behar) 12.42
11 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 12.52
12 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 12.58
13 iraqi-arab (harappa) 12.68
14 turkmen (yunusbayev) 14.55
15 kumyk (yunusbayev) 15.25
16 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 15.38
17 assyrian (harappa) 15.39
18 iranian-jew (behar) 16.4
19 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 16.52
20 stalskoe (xing) 16.75
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.6% kurd (xing) + 26.4% romanian-b (behar) @ 2.78
2 69.7% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 30.3% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.79
3 71.3% assyrian (harappa) + 28.7% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.08
4 69.3% georgia-jew (behar) + 30.7% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.23
5 60.7% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 39.3% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.27
6 60.2% georgia-jew (behar) + 39.8% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.28
7 66.3% georgia-jew (behar) + 33.7% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.41
8 90.4% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.6% chenchu (reich) @ 3.54
9 65.9% georgia-jew (behar) + 34.1% kalash (hgdp) @ 3.54
10 92.1% kurd (yunusbayev) + 7.9% paniya (chaubey) @ 3.67
11 90.5% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.5% sahariya (reich) @ 3.69
12 91.1% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.9% nihali (metspalu) @ 3.69
13 62.5% assyrian (harappa) + 37.5% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.7
14 83.9% iranian (harappa) + 16.1% romanian-b (behar) @ 3.73
15 59.1% armenian (yunusbayev) + 40.9% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.75
16 83.5% kurd (harappa) + 16.5% romanian-b (behar) @ 3.76
17 78.7% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 21.3% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.77
18 90.4% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.6% gond (metspalu) @ 3.77
19 69.3% georgia-jew (behar) + 30.7% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.79
20 91.5% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.5% santhal (reich) @ 3.83
also, what i assumes to be an iranian arab:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SW-Asian 28.8
2 Caucasian 28.13
3 Baloch 15.96
4 W-African 6.47
5 S-Indian 6.3
6 E-African 6.24
7 Mediterranean 3.62
8 SE-Asian 1.32
9 San 1.03
10 Siberian 0.78
11 Pygmy 0.41
12 American 0.34
13 NE-Euro 0.32
14 Beringian 0.18
15 Papuan 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 yemenese (behar) 11.12
2 iraqi-arab (harappa) 14.14
3 jordanian (behar) 15.34
4 palestinian (harappa) 15.34
5 syrian (behar) 15.86
6 palestinian (hgdp) 16.42
7 egyptian (behar) 17.33
8 lebanese (behar) 18.23
9 egypt (henn2012) 19.06
10 lebanese-muslim (haber) 20.59
11 iranian (behar) 20.88
12 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 21.73
13 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 22.13
14 iraq-jew (behar) 22.19
15 kurd (harappa) 22.88
16 iranian-jew (behar) 23.02
17 lebanese-christian (haber) 23.79
18 lebanese-druze (haber) 24.14
19 armenian (harappa) 24.16
20 samaritian (behar) 24.27
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.3% yemenese (behar) + 19.7% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.17
2 77% yemenese (behar) + 23% pashtun (harappa) @ 4.65
3 80.2% yemenese (behar) + 19.8% pathan (hgdp) @ 4.65
4 80.4% yemenese (behar) + 19.6% sindhi (harappa) @ 4.79
5 80.9% yemenese (behar) + 19.1% balochi (hgdp) @ 4.81
6 81.7% yemenese (behar) + 18.3% bhatia (harappa) @ 4.88
7 67.1% yemenese (behar) + 32.9% iranian (behar) @ 4.92
8 80.3% yemenese (behar) + 19.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 5.06
9 81% yemenese (behar) + 19% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 5.09
10 82.4% yemenese (behar) + 17.6% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 5.13
11 81% yemenese (behar) + 19% kashmiri (harappa) @ 5.14
12 82.1% yemenese (behar) + 17.9% brahui (hgdp) @ 5.23
13 81.5% yemenese (behar) + 18.5% burusho (hgdp) @ 5.25
14 82.1% yemenese (behar) + 17.9% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 5.25
15 80.8% yemenese (behar) + 19.2% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 5.29
16 81.4% yemenese (behar) + 18.6% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 5.3
17 82.1% yemenese (behar) + 17.9% punjabi (harappa) @ 5.46
18 82.9% yemenese (behar) + 17.1% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 5.47
19 82.9% yemenese (behar) + 17.1% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 5.55
20 82% yemenese (behar) + 18% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 5.6
now you seen a couple of easterners. They all can be in range from getting 5-10% SI(if we're excluding more south asian shifted bandaris or balochis). They usually get lower caucasian and frequently slightly higher baloch/are more iranian neo shifted.
I wonder what a purest form of Persian, Lur, Kurd, Azeri Iranian, Pashtun, Baloch etc score like ? can someone post such results
That's a typical Persian result:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.86
2 Gedrosia 28.71
3 Southwest_Asian 14.43
4 South_Asian 6.02
5 Atlantic_Med 5.29
6 North_European 5.23
7 East_African 1.76
8 Siberian 1.35
9 Northwest_African 1.13
10 Sub_Saharan 0.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranians (Behar) 3.19
2 Iranian (Dodecad) 5.55
3 Kurd (Dodecad) 6.51
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 8.05
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 13.23
6 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 14.76
7 Turks (Behar) 17.96
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 18.58
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 19.03
10 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 19.67
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 19.71
12 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 19.92
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 20.25
14 Lebanese (Behar) 21.24
15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 21.32
16 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 21.79
17 Syrians (Behar) 22.06
18 Armenian (Dodecad) 22.32
19 Jordanians (Behar) 24.07
20 Lezgins (Behar) 24.31
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 2.19
2 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 2.3
3 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% Ho (Chaubey) @ 2.34
4 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% Savara (Chaubey) @ 2.35
5 97.3% Iranians (Behar) + 2.7% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 2.35
6 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 2.36
7 97.5% Iranians (Behar) + 2.5% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 2.38
8 97.3% Iranians (Behar) + 2.7% Gond (Metspalu) @ 2.43
9 97.5% Iranians (Behar) + 2.5% Juang (Chaubey) @ 2.46
10 97.5% Iranians (Behar) + 2.5% BONDA (Chaubey) @ 2.46
11 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% North_Kannadi (Behar) @ 2.46
12 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 2.49
13 88.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 11.4% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 2.51
14 94.5% Iranians (Behar) + 5.5% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 2.53
15 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% Chamar (Metspalu) @ 2.54
16 97.3% Iranians (Behar) + 2.7% Chenchus (Metspalu) @ 2.57
17 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% SAKILLI (Behar) @ 2.58
18 97.3% Iranians (Behar) + 2.7% Kol (Metspalu) @ 2.6
19 91.3% Kurd (Dodecad) + 8.7% Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 2.62
20 97.3% Iranians (Behar) + 2.7% Dusadh (Metspalu) @ 2.65
Azeri
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.52
2 Gedrosia 21.02
3 Southwest_Asian 12.59
4 North_European 9.97
5 Atlantic_Med 6.17
6 Siberian 3.36
7 Northwest_African 2.42
8 South_Asian 2.33
9 East_Asian 1.92
10 Southeast_Asian 1.74
11 East_African 0.96
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian (Dodecad) 9.11
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 9.14
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 9.66
4 Turks (Behar) 10.81
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 11.23
6 Iranians (Behar) 11.38
7 Turkish (Dodecad) 13.07
8 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 14
9 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 15.07
10 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 16.72
11 Lebanese (Behar) 17.2
12 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 17.27
13 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 17.53
14 Assyrian (Dodecad) 17.92
15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 18.44
16 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 18.58
17 Armenian (Dodecad) 19.17
18 Syrians (Behar) 19.71
19 Lezgins (Behar) 20.64
20 Druze (HGDP) 21.49
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.9% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 39.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.88
2 71% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 29% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.36
3 54.6% Druze (HGDP) + 45.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.52
4 56.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 43.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.63
5 54.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 45.1% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 4.84
6 61.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 38.5% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.98
7 55.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 44.2% Lebanese (Behar) @ 5.12
8 59.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 40.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.14
9 60.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 39.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.17
10 87.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 12.4% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.27
11 60.1% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 39.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.33
12 82.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 17.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.4
13 74.4% Kurd (Dodecad) + 25.6% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 5.42
14 82% Kurd (Dodecad) + 18% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 5.45
15 82.8% Kurd (Dodecad) + 17.2% Romanians (Behar) @ 5.48
16 82.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 17.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.52
17 82.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 17.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 5.56
18 83.6% Turks (Behar) + 16.4% Makrani (HGDP) @ 5.58
19 58.6% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 41.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.62
20 78.2% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 21.8% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.63
I did post south easterner before though. Dont know how you didnt saw that?
I thought you mentioned they were all Baloch.
I've meant southeastern persians like Kerman..
Anyways thank you
hussein khan
09-03-2019, 03:57 PM
I thought you mentioned they were all Baloch.
I've meant southeastern persians like Kerman..
Anyways thank you
kermans are not southeasterners, bandaris are.
But np.
Oghuz
09-03-2019, 04:00 PM
That's a typical Persian result:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.86
2 Gedrosia 28.71
3 Southwest_Asian 14.43
4 South_Asian 6.02
5 Atlantic_Med 5.29
6 North_European 5.23
7 East_African 1.76
8 Siberian 1.35
9 Northwest_African 1.13
10 Sub_Saharan 0.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranians (Behar) 3.19
2 Iranian (Dodecad) 5.55
3 Kurd (Dodecad) 6.51
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 8.05
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 13.23
6 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 14.76
7 Turks (Behar) 17.96
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 18.58
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 19.03
10 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 19.67
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 19.71
12 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 19.92
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 20.25
14 Lebanese (Behar) 21.24
15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 21.32
16 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 21.79
17 Syrians (Behar) 22.06
18 Armenian (Dodecad) 22.32
19 Jordanians (Behar) 24.07
20 Lezgins (Behar) 24.31
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 2.19
2 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 2.3
3 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% Ho (Chaubey) @ 2.34
4 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% Savara (Chaubey) @ 2.35
5 97.3% Iranians (Behar) + 2.7% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 2.35
6 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 2.36
7 97.5% Iranians (Behar) + 2.5% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 2.38
8 97.3% Iranians (Behar) + 2.7% Gond (Metspalu) @ 2.43
9 97.5% Iranians (Behar) + 2.5% Juang (Chaubey) @ 2.46
10 97.5% Iranians (Behar) + 2.5% BONDA (Chaubey) @ 2.46
11 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% North_Kannadi (Behar) @ 2.46
12 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 2.49
13 88.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 11.4% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 2.51
14 94.5% Iranians (Behar) + 5.5% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 2.53
15 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% Chamar (Metspalu) @ 2.54
16 97.3% Iranians (Behar) + 2.7% Chenchus (Metspalu) @ 2.57
17 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% SAKILLI (Behar) @ 2.58
18 97.3% Iranians (Behar) + 2.7% Kol (Metspalu) @ 2.6
19 91.3% Kurd (Dodecad) + 8.7% Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 2.62
20 97.3% Iranians (Behar) + 2.7% Dusadh (Metspalu) @ 2.65
Azeri
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.52
2 Gedrosia 21.02
3 Southwest_Asian 12.59
4 North_European 9.97
5 Atlantic_Med 6.17
6 Siberian 3.36
7 Northwest_African 2.42
8 South_Asian 2.33
9 East_Asian 1.92
10 Southeast_Asian 1.74
11 East_African 0.96
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian (Dodecad) 9.11
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 9.14
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 9.66
4 Turks (Behar) 10.81
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 11.23
6 Iranians (Behar) 11.38
7 Turkish (Dodecad) 13.07
8 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 14
9 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 15.07
10 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 16.72
11 Lebanese (Behar) 17.2
12 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 17.27
13 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 17.53
14 Assyrian (Dodecad) 17.92
15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 18.44
16 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 18.58
17 Armenian (Dodecad) 19.17
18 Syrians (Behar) 19.71
19 Lezgins (Behar) 20.64
20 Druze (HGDP) 21.49
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.9% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 39.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.88
2 71% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 29% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.36
3 54.6% Druze (HGDP) + 45.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.52
4 56.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 43.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.63
5 54.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 45.1% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 4.84
6 61.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 38.5% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.98
7 55.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 44.2% Lebanese (Behar) @ 5.12
8 59.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 40.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.14
9 60.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 39.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.17
10 87.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 12.4% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.27
11 60.1% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 39.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.33
12 82.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 17.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.4
13 74.4% Kurd (Dodecad) + 25.6% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 5.42
14 82% Kurd (Dodecad) + 18% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 5.45
15 82.8% Kurd (Dodecad) + 17.2% Romanians (Behar) @ 5.48
16 82.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 17.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.52
17 82.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 17.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 5.56
18 83.6% Turks (Behar) + 16.4% Makrani (HGDP) @ 5.58
19 58.6% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 41.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.62
20 78.2% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 21.8% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.63
Seems like Azeri and Persians are very close. I think Persians just have bit more CHG in them.
kermans are not southeasterners, bandaris are.
But np.
Oh no Kermanis are southeasternmost persians, since Balochs are not persian.
Bandari are just southern. Also aren't Bandaris more located in the southwest (Gulf)?
hussein khan
09-03-2019, 04:06 PM
Oh no Kermanis are southeasternmost persians, since Balochs are not persian.
Bandari are just southern. Also aren't Bandaris more located in the southwest (Gulf)?
I dont know where bandaris are placed. But i wouldnt find it crazy theyre place south east actually or more to the east, since many can be more similiar to iranian balochs.
But i thought they be more north. Didnt pay any attention about where kerman is placed...
Seems like Azeri and Persians are very close. I think Persians just have bit more CHG in them.
Depends on how you define close. I think Azeris are closer to Iranian Kurds and Caspian Iranians like (Mazandarani and Gilaki) than to Persians. Lurs would be intermediate between Kurds and Persians.
Also note: I don't know on what the Iranian sample on Gedmatch is based on. All Iranians? Only Persians?...
Oghuz
09-03-2019, 04:21 PM
Depends on how you define close. I think Azeris are closer to Iranian Kurds and Caspian Iranians like (Mazandarani and Gilaki) than to Persians. Lurs would be intermediate between Kurds and Persians.
Also note: I don't know on what the Iranian sample on Gedmatch is based on. All Iranians? Only Persians?...
Persian is a very lose term as well. There is a difference between ethnic Persian descended from Zagros area and just a Persian speaking migrant.
Proximity of Azeris with Persians is based on their highest proportions which are same. Only difference is in CHG and Siberian Component.
Persian is a very lose term as well. There is a difference between ethnic Persian descended from Zagros area and just a Persian speaking migrant.
Proximity of Azeris with Persians is based on their highest proportions which are same. Only difference is in CHG and Siberian Component.
Persians have significant more Gedrosian/Baloch admixture overall. Edging 10% difference on average.
Btw. It was a random Iranian azeri sample.
I wonder what a purest form of Persian, Lur, Kurd, Azeri Iranian, Pashtun, Baloch etc score like ? can someone post such results
How about this? The guy is from Tehran, not directly from Western Iran (I was wrong)
From another forum — a Lur from Western Iran
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 42.08
2 East_Med 29.86
3 South_Asian 7.68
4 Red_Sea 6.36
5 West_Med 5
6 North_Atlantic 3.34
7 Baltic 2.98
8 Sub-Saharan 1.04
9 Siberian 0.95
10 Oceanian 0.69
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurdish 2.57
2 Iranian 4.76
3 Azeri 7.82
4 Armenian 9.97
5 Georgian_Jewish 10.75
6 Turkish 13.15
7 Georgian 13.69
8 Assyrian 13.82
9 Abhkasian 14.79
10 Kumyk 14.97
11 Iranian_Jewish 15.9
12 Adygei 16.21
13 Kurdish_Jewish 16.42
14 Ossetian 17.87
15 Balkar 18.37
16 Turkmen 18.37
17 North_Ossetian 18.65
18 Kabardin 19.5
19 Lezgin 19.88
20 Chechen 20.35
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.3% Kurdish + 5.7% Abhkasian @ 2.41
2 94.7% Kurdish + 5.3% Georgian @ 2.45
3 99.5% Kurdish + 0.5% Yoruban @ 2.49
4 99.5% Kurdish + 0.5% Mandenka @ 2.5
5 98% Kurdish + 2% Makrani @ 2.51
6 99.5% Kurdish + 0.5% Bantu_S.W. @ 2.51
7 98.4% Kurdish + 1.6% Brahui @ 2.51
8 99.5% Kurdish + 0.5% Bantu_S.E. @ 2.52
9 98.5% Kurdish + 1.5% Balochi @ 2.52
10 99.6% Kurdish + 0.4% Biaka_Pygmy @ 2.53
11 91.1% Kurdish + 8.9% Iranian @ 2.53
12 99.7% Kurdish + 0.3% Luhya @ 2.54
13 99.7% Kurdish + 0.3% Bantu_N.E. @ 2.55
14 99.8% Kurdish + 0.2% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 2.56
15 99.1% Kurdish + 0.9% Ossetian @ 2.56
16 99.1% Kurdish + 0.9% North_Ossetian @ 2.56
17 99.2% Kurdish + 0.8% Lezgin @ 2.56
18 99.9% Kurdish + 0.1% Papuan @ 2.56
19 99.9% Kurdish + 0.1% San @ 2.56
20 99.7% Kurdish + 0.3% Adygei @ 2.56
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Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.69
2 South_Central_Asian 25.53
3 Near_East 11.44
4 North_African 7.02
5 European_Early_Farmers 6.69
6 European_Hunters_Gatherers 3.95
7 South_Indian 2.23
8 Ancestral_Altaic 1.76
9 Subsaharian 1.35
10 Austronesian 0.95
11 South_East_Asian 0.59
12 African_Pygmy 0.38
13 Tungus-Altaic 0.23
14 Paleo_Siberian 0.17
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurd_South ( ) 5.27
2 Kurd_East ( ) 5.51
3 Kurd_North ( ) 5.98
4 Kurd ( ) 6.2
5 Azeri ( ) 6.84
6 Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) 9.94
7 Turk_Adana ( ) 10.61
8 Iraqi_Mandean ( ) 10.76
9 Baku_WGA ( ) 11.01
10 Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) 11.53
11 Kurd_Jew ( ) 12.78
12 Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) 13.05
13 Iraki ( ) 13.67
14 Iranian ( ) 13.68
15 Georgian_Jew ( ) 14.32
16 Stalskoe_Kumyk ( ) 14.42
17 Turk ( ) 14.5
18 Iranian_Jew ( ) 14.56
19 Turk_Kayseri ( ) 14.6
20 Azeri_Dagestan ( ) 15.31
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.2% Kurd ( ) + 8.8% Shaigi_Sudan ( ) @ 2.33
2 91.7% Kurd ( ) + 8.3% Algerian ( ) @ 2.4
3 92.7% Kurd ( ) + 7.3% Morocco_South ( ) @ 2.44
4 93.2% Kurd ( ) + 6.8% Berber_WGA ( ) @ 2.46
5 91% Kurd ( ) + 9% Tunisian ( ) @ 2.61
6 93.6% Kurd ( ) + 6.4% Saharawi ( ) @ 2.63
7 94.4% Kurd ( ) + 5.6% Mozabite ( ) @ 2.69
8 94.6% Kurd_North ( ) + 5.4% Mozabite ( ) @ 2.71
9 91.8% Kurd ( ) + 8.2% Moroccan ( ) @ 2.81
10 94.2% Kurd_North ( ) + 5.8% Saharawi ( ) @ 3.14
11 93.9% Kurd_North ( ) + 6.1% Berber_WGA ( ) @ 3.18
12 93.7% Kurd_North ( ) + 6.3% Morocco_South ( ) @ 3.43
13 92.9% Kurd_North ( ) + 7.1% Algerian ( ) @ 3.58
14 92.9% Kurd_North ( ) + 7.1% Moroccan ( ) @ 3.61
15 92.6% Kurd_North ( ) + 7.4% Shaigi_Sudan ( ) @ 3.64
16 92.5% Kurd_North ( ) + 7.5% Tunisian ( ) @ 3.75
17 95.9% Kurd_East ( ) + 4.1% Mozabite ( ) @ 3.76
18 92.2% Kurd ( ) + 7.8% Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) @ 3.89
19 87.2% Kurd ( ) + 12.8% Egyptian_Tanta ( ) @ 4.02
20 95.4% Kurd_East ( ) + 4.6% Berber_WGA ( ) @ 4.04
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Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 40.35
2 Gedrosia 26.47
3 Southwest_Asian 13.32
4 North_European 6.57
5 Atlantic_Med 5.34
6 South_Asian 3.76
7 Northwest_African 3.38
8 East_Asian 0.42
9 East_African 0.38
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurd (Dodecad) 4.51
2 Iranian (Dodecad) 4.58
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 5.05
4 Iranians (Behar) 6.32
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 9.82
6 Turks (Behar) 14.13
7 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.31
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 15.54
9 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 15.6
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 16.1
11 Turkish (Dodecad) 16.62
12 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 16.74
13 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 16.86
14 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 17.33
15 Armenian (Dodecad) 17.95
16 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 18.22
17 Lebanese (Behar) 19.07
18 Armenians (Behar) 21.1
19 Syrians (Behar) 21.24
20 Lezgins (Behar) 21.47
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 3.8% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 3.2
2 96.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 3.2% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 3.23
3 95% Iranian (Dodecad) + 5% Moroccans (Behar) @ 3.4
4 95% Iranian (Dodecad) + 5% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 3.42
5 94.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 5.8% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 3.44
6 96.8% Kurd (Dodecad) + 3.2% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 3.45
7 96% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 3.47
8 95.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4.1% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 3.52
9 91.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 8.9% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 3.57
10 95.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4.3% North_Kannadi (Behar) @ 3.59
11 92.1% Iranian (Dodecad) + 7.9% Egyptans (Behar) @ 3.6
12 95.8% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4.2% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 3.6
13 95.6% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4.4% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 3.61
14 96.9% Kurd (Dodecad) + 3.1% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 3.62
15 95.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4.7% Chenchus (Metspalu) @ 3.63
16 87% Iranian (Dodecad) + 13% Lebanese (Behar) @ 3.63
17 95.6% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4.4% Gond (Metspalu) @ 3.63
18 95.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4.5% Chamar (Metspalu) @ 3.64
19 97.4% Kurd (Dodecad) + 2.6% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 3.65
20 96% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 4% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 3.65
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Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 42.1
2 Baloch 25.6
3 SW-Asian 13.76
4 Mediterranean 7
5 NE-Euro 4.73
6 S-Indian 4.03
7 Beringian 1.32
8 Papuan 0.67
9 Siberian 0.3
10 San 0.29
11 E-African 0.2
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 kurd (harappa) 2.08
2 iranian (harappa) 4.07
3 kurd (yunusbayev) 4.36
4 iranian (behar) 4.55
5 kurd (xing) 4.72
6 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 7.63
7 turkish (harappa) 7.9
8 armenian (harappa) 8.73
9 azeri (harappa) 8.78
10 iraqi-arab (harappa) 11.13
11 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 11.81
12 assyrian (harappa) 12
13 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 12.42
14 turk (behar) 12.53
15 iranian-jew (behar) 13.03
16 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 13.3
17 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 13.76
18 georgia-jew (behar) 14.32
19 iraq-jew (behar) 14.37
20 armenian (yunusbayev) 15.34
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.7% kurd (harappa) + 6.3% assyrian (harappa) @ 1.92
2 94.5% kurd (harappa) + 5.5% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 1.92
3 90.8% kurd (harappa) + 9.2% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 1.94
4 95.1% kurd (harappa) + 4.9% georgia-jew (behar) @ 1.95
5 95.7% kurd (harappa) + 4.3% armenian (behar) @ 1.95
6 97.2% kurd (harappa) + 2.8% druze (hgdp) @ 1.95
7 95.4% kurd (harappa) + 4.6% iraq-jew (behar) @ 1.96
8 94.4% kurd (harappa) + 5.6% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 1.96
9 95.1% kurd (harappa) + 4.9% iranian-jew (behar) @ 1.97
10 97.1% kurd (harappa) + 2.9% cypriot (behar) @ 1.97
11 96.9% kurd (harappa) + 3.1% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 2
12 97.9% kurd (harappa) + 2.1% samaritian (behar) @ 2
13 97.2% kurd (harappa) + 2.8% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 2
14 87.6% kurd (harappa) + 12.4% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 2
15 98.3% kurd (harappa) + 1.7% georgian (behar) @ 2.01
16 99.4% kurd (harappa) + 0.6% irula (xing) @ 2.02
17 98.4% kurd (harappa) + 1.6% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 2.03
18 99.5% kurd (harappa) + 0.5% pulliyar (metspalu) @ 2.04
19 97.8% kurd (harappa) + 2.2% lebanese-muslim (haber) @ 2.04
20 98.1% kurd (harappa) + 1.9% syrian (behar) @ 2.05
By the way, what about yourself? Do you think you're not pure enough? :)
Babak
09-03-2019, 11:42 PM
I know a guy who is half azeri half turkmen but he thinks he's just persian :D Persian nationalistic inception
Well a lot people in Iran think they're persian because many have been already assimilated and support Persian culture and language. Its been of the most influenced and dominant cultures in that region so it makes sense why some minorities would identify as such.
Babak
09-03-2019, 11:44 PM
Persian is a very lose term as well. There is a difference between ethnic Persian descended from Zagros area and just a Persian speaking migrant.
Proximity of Azeris with Persians is based on their highest proportions which are same. Only difference is in CHG and Siberian Component.
Tehrani persians are most likely assimilated azeris and kurds who mixed with remaining persian speakers over time. Thats why theres some differences in their Adna since Tehran wasn't that populated back then.
hussein khan
09-04-2019, 08:35 AM
Depends on how you define close. I think Azeris are closer to Iranian Kurds and Caspian Iranians like (Mazandarani and Gilaki) than to Persians. Lurs would be intermediate between Kurds and Persians.
Also note: I don't know on what the Iranian sample on Gedmatch is based on. All Iranians? Only Persians?...
Excluding balochs, many bandaris and some other easterners, mazandaranis would be the most CHG-shifted iranians. ALthough they do get a bit more caucasian than other iranians(like 40-45%), they never seem to get less than 30% baloch(from the 9 samples i seen)and always around 31-32% baloch. THey also seem slightly more SI-shifted. Out of all the 9 samples i seen, only 2 got like below 4,5% SI(one got like 3%, while maybe the other 4%). THe rest just got close to 5% and some even 6%. THey even get less med than the other iranians. TBH, i wouldnt be suprised if theyre inbetween lebanese and afghans and slightly closer to turks than to afghans. That means azeris have some significant differencees(and specially the ones from the west getting less than 20% baloch and some mong in harrappaworld). But thats from only the 9 samples i seen….
Oghuz
09-04-2019, 09:57 AM
How about this? The guy is from Tehran, not directly from Western Iran (I was wrong)
By the way, what about yourself? Do you think you're not pure enough? :)
As per my taxonomy by members here, I am the most typical textbook Kebob Iranian ever to have been born.
Oghuz
09-04-2019, 09:58 AM
Persians have significant more Gedrosian/Baloch admixture overall. Edging 10% difference on average.
Btw. It was a random Iranian azeri sample.
Thats the CHG component. Neolithic influence.
Also depends upon what kind of persian are we talking about.
Oghuz
09-04-2019, 09:59 AM
Tehrani persians are most likely assimilated azeris and kurds who mixed with remaining persian speakers over time. Thats why theres some differences in their Adna since Tehran wasn't that populated back then.
Tehran is full of mixtures of kurds, azeris, caspians and persians, lurs. Someone who is like a Tehran native can not claim to be a pure persian that easily.
As per my taxonomy by members here, I am the most typical textbook Kebob Iranian ever to have been born.
I have never seen you but I meant by DNA.
As per my taxonomy by members here, I am the most typical textbook Kebob Iranian ever to have been born.
Not true. A lot of members say you look a bit Med shifted for an Iranian but you always seem to get offended by it :D
Thats the CHG component. Neolithic influence.
Also depends upon what kind of persian are we talking about.
What's the difference between CHG component and Caucasus related autosomal DNA? I think Iran_Neo is slightly different.
Excluding balochs, many bandaris and some other easterners, mazandaranis would be the most CHG-shifted iranians. ALthough they do get a bit more caucasian than other iranians(like 40-45%), they never seem to get less than 30% baloch(from the 9 samples i seen)and always around 31-32% baloch. THey also seem slightly more SI-shifted. Out of all the 9 samples i seen, only 2 got like below 4,5% SI(one got like 3%, while maybe the other 4%). THe rest just got close to 5% and some even 6%. THey even get less med than the other iranians. TBH, i wouldnt be suprised if theyre inbetween lebanese and afghans and slightly closer to turks than to afghans. That means azeris have some significant differencees(and specially the ones from the west getting less than 20% baloch and some mong in harrappaworld). But thats from only the 9 samples i seen….
That's my fathers result, Azeri mostly with 1 Mazandarani Grandmother
1 Caucasian 39.44
2 Baloch 21.23
3 NE-Euro 10.91
4 SW-Asian 8.6
5 Mediterranean 6.88
6 S-Indian 4.26
7 NE-Asian 3.91
8 Siberian 3.58
9 Beringian 0.52
10 E-African 0.44
11 SE-Asian 0.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 azeri (harappa) 5.96
2 iranian (harappa) 7.14
3 turkish (harappa) 7.16
4 kurd (harappa) 7.68
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 9.44
6 iranian (behar) 9.49
7 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 9.54
8 turk (behar) 10.12
9 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 10.16
10 kurd (xing) 10.58
11 armenian (harappa) 11.68
12 turkmen (yunusbayev) 11.69
13 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 12.43
14 kumyk (yunusbayev) 12.52
15 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 13.37
16 stalskoe (xing) 13.84
17 iraqi-arab (harappa) 15.38
18 assyrian (harappa) 16.75
19 lezgin (behar) 16.92
20 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 18.5
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.4% turk (behar) + 20.6% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.33
2 77.2% turk (behar) + 22.8% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.4
3 78.3% turk (behar) + 21.7% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.57
4 72.3% turk (behar) + 27.7% pashtun (harappa) @ 2.57
5 78.7% turk (behar) + 21.3% burusho (hgdp) @ 2.72
6 77.1% turk (behar) + 22.9% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.78
7 79.5% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 20.5% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.8
8 77.3% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 22.7% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.8
9 77% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 23% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.84
10 80.9% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 19.1% balochi (hgdp) @ 2.91
11 72.4% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 27.6% pashtun (harappa) @ 2.98
12 79.7% turk (behar) + 20.3% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.01
13 85.7% azeri (harappa) + 14.3% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.05
14 78.5% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 21.5% sindhi (harappa) @ 3.05
15 81.1% turk (behar) + 18.9% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 3.09
16 79.6% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 20.4% sindhi (harappa) @ 3.1
17 80.8% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 19.2% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.11
18 77.3% azeri (harappa) + 22.7% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 3.12
19 78.7% turk (behar) + 21.3% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 3.13
20 78.7% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 21.3% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.16
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% armenian_yunusbayev +50% tajik_yunusbayev @ 3.979429
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% georgia-jew_behar +25% nogai_yunusbayev +25% pathan_hgdp @ 2.53400
hussein khan
09-04-2019, 03:29 PM
That's my fathers result, Azeri mostly with 1 Mazandarani Grandmother
1 Caucasian 39.44
2 Baloch 21.23
3 NE-Euro 10.91
4 SW-Asian 8.6
5 Mediterranean 6.88
6 S-Indian 4.26
7 NE-Asian 3.91
8 Siberian 3.58
9 Beringian 0.52
10 E-African 0.44
11 SE-Asian 0.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 azeri (harappa) 5.96
2 iranian (harappa) 7.14
3 turkish (harappa) 7.16
4 kurd (harappa) 7.68
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 9.44
6 iranian (behar) 9.49
7 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 9.54
8 turk (behar) 10.12
9 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 10.16
10 kurd (xing) 10.58
11 armenian (harappa) 11.68
12 turkmen (yunusbayev) 11.69
13 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 12.43
14 kumyk (yunusbayev) 12.52
15 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 13.37
16 stalskoe (xing) 13.84
17 iraqi-arab (harappa) 15.38
18 assyrian (harappa) 16.75
19 lezgin (behar) 16.92
20 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 18.5
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.4% turk (behar) + 20.6% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.33
2 77.2% turk (behar) + 22.8% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.4
3 78.3% turk (behar) + 21.7% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.57
4 72.3% turk (behar) + 27.7% pashtun (harappa) @ 2.57
5 78.7% turk (behar) + 21.3% burusho (hgdp) @ 2.72
6 77.1% turk (behar) + 22.9% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.78
7 79.5% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 20.5% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.8
8 77.3% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 22.7% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.8
9 77% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 23% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.84
10 80.9% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 19.1% balochi (hgdp) @ 2.91
11 72.4% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 27.6% pashtun (harappa) @ 2.98
12 79.7% turk (behar) + 20.3% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.01
13 85.7% azeri (harappa) + 14.3% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.05
14 78.5% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 21.5% sindhi (harappa) @ 3.05
15 81.1% turk (behar) + 18.9% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 3.09
16 79.6% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 20.4% sindhi (harappa) @ 3.1
17 80.8% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 19.2% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.11
18 77.3% azeri (harappa) + 22.7% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 3.12
19 78.7% turk (behar) + 21.3% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 3.13
20 78.7% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 21.3% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.16
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% armenian_yunusbayev +50% tajik_yunusbayev @ 3.979429
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% georgia-jew_behar +25% nogai_yunusbayev +25% pathan_hgdp @ 2.53400
THing is, dude, only your great grandmother is mazandarani.. If you told me you were an azeri with minor mazandarani ancestry without i knew that, i wouldnt be suprised. These are results of iranians labelled as mazandaranis:
Admix Results (sorted): (kit: HY2480849)
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 44.12
2 Baloch 34.89
3 SW-Asian 7.82
4 S-Indian 4.25
5 NE-Euro 3.36
6 Siberian 1.19
7 American 1.17
8 NE-Asian 1.16
9 W-African 0.93
10 Mediterranean 0.76
11 Pygmy 0.23
12 San 0.1
13 Papuan 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (harappa) 9.71
2 kurd (xing) 10.08
3 kurd (yunusbayev) 10.68
4 iranian (behar) 11.51
5 kurd (harappa) 11.76
6 azeri (harappa) 15.78
7 turkish (harappa) 17.41
8 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 17.76
9 lezgin (behar) 18.2
10 kumyk (yunusbayev) 18.53
11 turkmen (yunusbayev) 18.94
12 armenian (harappa) 19.01
13 assyrian (harappa) 20
14 stalskoe (xing) 20.49
15 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 20.62
16 turk (behar) 20.65
17 chechen (yunusbayev) 21.31
18 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 21.33
19 armenian (yunusbayev) 21.39
20 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 21.41
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.6% georgian (harappa) + 40.4% makrani (hgdp) @ 2.67
2 62.5% georgian (harappa) + 37.5% brahui (hgdp) @ 2.74
3 51.3% georgian (behar) + 48.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 2.94
4 60.6% georgian (harappa) + 39.4% balochi (hgdp) @ 3.2
5 53.3% abhkasian (yunusbayev) + 46.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 3.29
6 54.4% georgian (behar) + 45.6% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.73
7 56.4% abhkasian (yunusbayev) + 43.6% brahui (hgdp) @ 4.09
8 52.4% georgian (behar) + 47.6% balochi (hgdp) @ 4.18
9 54.4% abhkasian (yunusbayev) + 45.6% balochi (hgdp) @ 4.54
10 63.3% armenian (behar) + 36.7% brahui (hgdp) @ 7.01
11 60.3% armenian (behar) + 39.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 7.03
12 61.4% armenian (behar) + 38.6% balochi (hgdp) @ 7.19
13 82.1% kurd (xing) + 17.9% kalash (hgdp) @ 7.73
14 83.1% kurd (yunusbayev) + 16.9% brahui (hgdp) @ 7.92
15 81.3% kurd (yunusbayev) + 18.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 7.92
16 59.1% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) + 40.9% makrani (hgdp) @ 8.03
17 84.5% kurd (xing) + 15.5% balochi (hgdp) @ 8.15
18 85.7% kurd (xing) + 14.3% bhatia (harappa) @ 8.15
19 85.9% kurd (xing) + 14.1% brahui (hgdp) @ 8.24
20 84.3% kurd (xing) + 15.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 8.27
Admix Results (sorted):(kit number: MY9565829)
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 44.66
2 Baloch 31.78
3 SW-Asian 10.79
4 NE-Euro 5.23
5 S-Indian 5.12
6 Mediterranean 0.93
7 Siberian 0.71
8 SE-Asian 0.45
9 Pygmy 0.15
10 E-African 0.14
11 Beringian 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 kurd (xing) 7.19
2 iranian (harappa) 7.29
3 kurd (yunusbayev) 7.59
4 iranian (behar) 8.84
5 kurd (harappa) 8.92
6 azeri (harappa) 13.03
7 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 14.26
8 turkish (harappa) 14.78
9 armenian (harappa) 16.05
10 kumyk (yunusbayev) 16.89
11 assyrian (harappa) 17
12 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 17.4
13 lezgin (behar) 17.42
14 turk (behar) 18.04
15 iranian-jew (behar) 18.34
16 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 18.4
17 turkmen (yunusbayev) 18.56
18 iraqi-arab (harappa) 18.57
19 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 18.69
20 armenian (yunusbayev) 18.77
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63% georgian (harappa) + 37% makrani (hgdp) @ 3.57
2 63.9% georgian (harappa) + 36.1% balochi (hgdp) @ 3.64
3 65.7% georgian (harappa) + 34.3% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.75
4 87% kurd (xing) + 13% kalash (hgdp) @ 5.45
5 65.4% armenian (behar) + 34.6% balochi (hgdp) @ 5.67
6 67.3% armenian (behar) + 32.7% brahui (hgdp) @ 5.68
7 64.6% armenian (behar) + 35.4% makrani (hgdp) @ 5.72
8 89.6% kurd (xing) + 10.4% bhatia (harappa) @ 5.76
9 88.4% kurd (xing) + 11.6% pathan (hgdp) @ 5.76
10 90.2% kurd (xing) + 9.8% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 5.77
11 87.6% kurd (yunusbayev) + 12.4% balochi (hgdp) @ 5.78
12 89.1% kurd (xing) + 10.9% sindhi (harappa) @ 5.78
13 89.4% kurd (xing) + 10.6% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 5.79
14 53.8% georgian (behar) + 46.2% makrani (hgdp) @ 5.8
15 90.8% kurd (xing) + 9.2% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 5.81
16 90.7% kurd (xing) + 9.3% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 5.84
17 91% kurd (xing) + 9% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 5.85
18 89.7% kurd (xing) + 10.3% kashmiri (harappa) @ 5.86
19 91.1% kurd (xing) + 8.9% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 5.87
20 88.7% kurd (yunusbayev) + 11.3% brahui (hgdp) @ 5.87
You can look for the others here(i couldnt find the kit of the other mazandaranis though, only these two):
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/s2048x2048/69464691_875564396163713_7695903944945434624_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQl4k1GYLR8Ygi0hXBk2Y-yXmHv9Do5UTqm4EiFOJaMnjpW7r6HuQC3eKLs6TdxXOcs&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=acbf81677c633ce062bd22807752c1d8&oe=5E099A38
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/s2048x2048/69423236_672715689897784_8774160488243134464_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQlqw53d8BgCqMBy3ivGebUkfaB-IbqM5GBKA8Vs_uFBwfzEynGzPLobFS8kfukNqB0&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=85672733b12e89c8967154f20f6ca111&oe=5E09DE96
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/s2048x2048/69949181_651983258647228_6598112700679585792_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQkjzOUhZLgqdrQd8piWi_iRBVWZYPCeRCNLX7wVQNm ep-xmpwfa2lGUPdAtMv7DJo8&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=233ebe7ee6418a37a724cb109f792985&oe=5E007A00
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/s2048x2048/69627062_488454798643858_1807626184402403328_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=110&_nc_oc=AQnLlg8Z5hhw8PUVaBCB8bnKtP_CjlIgFcRxpsIb8V1-VguwQ7GDvPHn873VfKPx8Mk&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=3392b6256ac65654c8c30e18d2a85f58&oe=5DFD6C68
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/s2048x2048/69880949_417972448837959_2007434153275949056_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=101&_nc_oc=AQkGr7fIVQzOf4jhO6Ugk1QOS-qPJy6oXsNuJbTF5So3-T1ELGbfmNaOZZ2bIKwlUr4&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=8b51578d3d5d4baefc9f327dddd79adc&oe=5E14D260
I know it's a bird hard to tell what youre seeing, since the pics seems a bit messy. I would had liked to post the results here, but something went wrng with my openofficee, the program i put the results in.
Anyway, as the pics are suppossed to show you is that all the 9 mazandaranis dont get less than 30% baloch, which is a noticeable difference between iranians like lurs and the mazandaranis and specially many azeris.
hussein khan
09-04-2019, 03:38 PM
Some iranian/kurd without any SI:
Kit YX1351097
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.92
2 Baloch 25.33
3 SW-Asian 14.01
4 Mediterranean 7.62
5 NE-Euro 7.07
6 Siberian 1.63
7 Beringian 1.13
8 SE-Asian 0.94
9 Papuan 0.91
10 W-African 0.89
11 San 0.76
12 NE-Asian 0.71
13 American 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 kurd (harappa) 4.46
2 iranian (harappa) 5.68
3 iranian (behar) 5.77
4 kurd (xing) 6.49
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 6.83
6 turkish (harappa) 8.05
7 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 9.41
8 azeri (harappa) 9.82
9 armenian (harappa) 10.49
10 iraqi-arab (harappa) 11.4
11 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 12.1
12 turk (behar) 12.54
13 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 12.76
14 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 13.81
15 assyrian (harappa) 14.32
16 iranian-jew (behar) 15.01
17 turkmen (yunusbayev) 15.21
18 palestinian (harappa) 15.41
19 iraq-jew (behar) 15.99
20 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 16.2
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.2% kurd (xing) + 9.8% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 3.09
2 92% kurd (xing) + 8% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 3.23
3 95.2% kurd (harappa) + 4.8% orcadian (hgdp) @ 3.25
4 95.1% kurd (harappa) + 4.9% british (1000genomes) @ 3.26
5 95% kurd (harappa) + 5% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 3.27
6 95% kurd (harappa) + 5% n-european (xing) @ 3.29
7 94.6% kurd (harappa) + 5.4% french (hgdp) @ 3.31
8 94.5% kurd (harappa) + 5.5% hungarian (behar) @ 3.34
9 89.6% kurd (xing) + 10.4% puerto-rican (1000genomes) @ 3.36
10 94.6% kurd (harappa) + 5.4% slovenian (xing) @ 3.37
11 96% kurd (harappa) + 4% lithuanian (behar) @ 3.4
12 95.2% kurd (harappa) + 4.8% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 3.4
13 95.6% kurd (harappa) + 4.4% russian (hgdp) @ 3.42
14 95.6% kurd (harappa) + 4.4% belorussian (behar) @ 3.43
15 95.4% kurd (harappa) + 4.6% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 3.43
16 94.9% kurd (harappa) + 5.1% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 3.47
17 95.1% kurd (harappa) + 4.9% chuvash (behar) @ 3.47
18 93.1% kurd (harappa) + 6.9% romanian-a (behar) @ 3.48
19 95.7% kurd (harappa) + 4.3% russian (behar) @ 3.49
20 96.6% kurd (harappa) + 3.4% finnish (1000genomes) @ 3.5
Mazandarani actress Parinaz Izadyar. Iran Neo is strong in her :)
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Parinaz+Izadyar+Pig+Photo+Call+68th+Berlinale+zQKu AC0G8gyl.jpg
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Parinaz+Izadyar+Pig+Photo+Call+68th+Berlinale+mIdH STmsAs2l.jpg
Mazandarani actress Parinaz Izadyar. Iran Neo is strong in her :)
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Parinaz+Izadyar+Pig+Photo+Call+68th+Berlinale+zQKu AC0G8gyl.jpg
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Parinaz+Izadyar+Pig+Photo+Call+68th+Berlinale+mIdH STmsAs2l.jpg
Another one:
https://www.albawaba.com/sites/default/files/styles/de2e_standard/public/im/Iran_2017/Alireza_Jahanbakhsh_iranian.jpg?itok=DtxlXL9l
They were protected from outside influence by their beautiful environment:
https://ariamedtour.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Mazandaran-province.jpg
https://photos.wikimapia.org/p/00/00/34/73/71_big.jpg
https://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-snowy-mountain-in-winter-tonekabon-county-mazandaran-iran-163671728.jpg
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/12e772d1-88f9-43a9-8af6-d600623ba27b/dd9kbjh-3dda3b17-e846-4f5e-83ef-bee7c82fb772.jpg/v1/fill/w_808,h_989,q_70,strp/mazandaran__iran_4_by_maghigol_dd9kbjh-pre.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9 .eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZ DQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTg yMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7Imhla WdodCI6Ijw9MTU2NiIsInBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzEyZTc3MmQxLTg 4ZjktNDNhOS04YWY2LWQ2MDA2MjNiYTI3YlwvZGQ5a2JqaC0zZ GRhM2IxNy1lODQ2LTRmNWUtODNlZi1iZWU3YzgyZmI3NzIuanB nIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTEyODAifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlc nZpY2U6aW1hZ2Uub3BlcmF0aW9ucyJdfQ.S316ls18Ax5Z8oz-cD7e3wYWCjlX7ZPaO9AWD09wJRk
Babak
09-04-2019, 11:47 PM
Mazandaranis are the least mixed out of all Iranians i believe.
hussein khan
09-05-2019, 02:32 PM
Mazandaranis are the least mixed out of all Iranians i believe.
I dont think having more chg makes you more pure.
Also, they have very little, but slightly more aasi than many other west iranians...
hussein khan
09-05-2019, 02:33 PM
Mazandaranis are the least mixed out of all Iranians i believe.
I dont think having more chg makes you more pure.
Also, they have very little, but slightly more aasi than many other west iranians...
Babak
09-06-2019, 01:29 AM
I dont think having more chg makes you more pure.
Also, they have very little, but slightly more aasi than many other west iranians...
They have the least steppe too
SharpFork
09-06-2019, 05:12 AM
They have the least steppe too
How big is the Steppe impact in Iran and in this region?
How big is the Steppe impact in Iran and in this region?
15-25%
In Mazandaran probably around 13%
Another one:
https://www.albawaba.com/sites/default/files/styles/de2e_standard/public/im/Iran_2017/Alireza_Jahanbakhsh_iranian.jpg?itok=DtxlXL9l
Edit: he's from Gilan not Mazandaran
Does anybody got some Gilan results?
Would like to see Gilaki results, if they're closer to Northwest or to Mazandaran
Babak
09-07-2019, 07:56 PM
15-25%
In Mazandaran probably around 13%
Less. Many mazandaranis even score 0-5%
Less. Many mazandaranis even score 0-5%
oh ok.
Ydna are 50% J2 and 25%R1a
SharpFork
09-07-2019, 08:50 PM
Less. Many mazandaranis even score 0-5%
0-5% Steppe? You mean in the last 3 millennia Mazandaranis weren't influencend at all by Indo-Europeans, Eastern Iranians, Turks etc.? This seems unlikely at best.
Babak
09-07-2019, 08:55 PM
0-5% Steppe? You mean in the last 3 millennia Mazandaranis weren't influencend at all by Indo-Europeans, Eastern Iranians, Turks etc.? This seems unlikely at best.
Yea. In fact, they are the most isolated people in Iran. They resisted influence from every invader, including arabs. They do have slightly elevated South asian that makes them closer to tajiks but its probably native.
Mazandaranis=Archaic Iranics
SharpFork
09-07-2019, 09:37 PM
Yea. In fact, they are the most isolated people in Iran. They resisted influence from every invader, including arabs. They do have slightly elevated South asian that makes them closer to tajiks but its probably native.
Mazandaranis=Archaic Iranics
They didn't resist anything, they were conquered and/or ruled by Greeks, Parthians, Sassanids, Arabs, Turks etc.
They followed Iranian polytheism and now Islam, obviously they were influenced culturally at the very least.
Babak
09-07-2019, 10:35 PM
They didn't resist anything, they were conquered and/or ruled by Greeks, Parthians, Sassanids, Arabs, Turks etc.
They followed Iranian polytheism and now Islam, obviously they were influenced culturally at the very least.
No, they heavily resisted Arab influence.
Anyway, the point im trying to make is they barely score any steppe compared to all other Iranic groups despite history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazandaran_Province
hussein khan
09-08-2019, 11:36 AM
Yea. In fact, they are the most isolated people in Iran. They resisted influence from every invader, including arabs. They do have slightly elevated South asian that makes them closer to tajiks but its probably native.
Mazandaranis=Archaic Iranics
but iranics are supposed to be steppe-derived by huge margin.
Wouldnt it be more correct to call them "pre-iranic iranians"?
hussein khan
09-08-2019, 11:37 AM
Yea. In fact, they are the most isolated people in Iran. They resisted influence from every invader, including arabs. They do have slightly elevated South asian that makes them closer to tajiks but its probably native.
Mazandaranis=Archaic Iranics
but iranics are supposed to be steppe-derived by huge margin.
Wouldnt it be more correct to call them "pre-iranic iranians"?
but iranics are supposed to be steppe-derived by huge margin.
Wouldnt it be more correct to call them "pre-iranic iranians"?
agree. But they still have 25% R1a. I think steppe ancestry is bigger than 5%.
They can be modelled as Chalcolithic Iranian (around 75%) plus Early Iranic pastoralist (22%) and around 1 %Mongolian.
That means they're about 13% Steppe.
Edit: if you use Turkmenistan_IA as proxy for early Iranics.
Babak
09-08-2019, 07:36 PM
but iranics are supposed to be steppe-derived by huge margin.
Wouldnt it be more correct to call them "pre-iranic iranians"?
Thats why i said they are Archaic iranians.
Huge margin? Lol 15-25% is nothing for west iranics.
http://oi67.tinypic.com/2a6723q.jpg
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 08:42 AM
Thats why i said they are Archaic iranians.
Huge margin? Lol 15-25% is nothing for west iranics.
http://oi67.tinypic.com/2a6723q.jpg
Well, i thought you meant archaic iranics
But if iran chac is supposed to be yagnobi/sogdian/turkmen IA alike, then im a bit suprised how close you are to them compared to afghans. I thought pashtuns and iranians would be equally as close to turkmen IA.
Well, i thought you meant archaic iranics
But if iran chac is supposed to be yagnobi/sogdian/turkmen IA alike, then im a bit suprised how close you are to them compared to afghans. I thought pashtuns and iranians would be equally as close to turkmen IA.
Iran_Chl is not like yagnobi or sogdian. BMAC was more like Iran_Neolithic. Yagnobi are between Steppe and Iran_Neo. Just like early Iranic pastoralists.
Chalcolithic Iran is between Iran_Neo and Anatolia_Neo.
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 02:41 PM
Some mazandarani harrapaworld admix results(couldnt find the kits though):
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 31,98
2 Caucasian 41,75
3 S-Indian 2,83
4 NE-Euro 4,71
5 SW-Asian 11,33
6 Mediterranean 3,63
7 American 0,06
9 Beringian 0,2
10 Papuan 0,71
11 San 0,85
12 SE-Asian 1,95
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 31,47
2 Caucasian 46,12
3 S-Indian 7,56
4 NE-Euron 1,11
5 SW-Asian 8,26
6 Mediterranean 3,05
8 Siberian 0,6
9 Beringian 0,11
10 Papuan 1,08
11 W-African 0,22
12 San 0,36
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 33,29
2 Caucasian 41,21
3 S-Indian 5,66
4 NE-Euro 2,97
5 SW-Asian 10,38
6 Mediterranean 2,83
7 American 0,8
8 Siberian 0,67
9 Beringian 0,78
11 W-African 0,35
12 SE-Asian 1,06
' # Population Percent (kit number: HY2480849 )
1 Baloch 34,96
2 Caucasian 44,13
3 S-Indian 4,04
4 NE-Euro 3,36
5 SW-Asian 7,82
6 Mediterranean 0,76
7 American 1,09
8 Siberian 0,87
9 Beringian
10 Papuan 0,14
11 W-African 0,83
12 NE-Asian 1,66
13 San 0,17
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 31,77
2 Caucasian 44,64
3 S-Indian 4.95
4 NE-Euro 5,24
5 SW-Asian 10,79
6 Mediterranean 0,93
7 American
8 Siberian 0,38
9 Beringian 0,08
10 Pygmy 0,1
11 E-African 0,18
12 SE-Asian 0,95
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 30,65
2 Caucasian 40,27
3 S-Indian 5,98
4 NE-Euro 5,67
5 SW-Asian 12,24
6 Mediterranean 3,56
7 American
8 Siberian
9 Beringian 0,72
10 Papuan 0,32
11 E-African 0,59
12 NE-Asian
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 31,92
2 Caucasian 45,71
3 S-Indian 3,97
4 NE-Euro 4,53
5 SW-Asian 9,92
6 Mediterranean 0,67
7 Pygmy 0,94
8 Siberian 0,81
9 Beringian 1,41
10 Papuan 0,08
11 E-African
12 NE-Asian
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 33,92
2 Caucasian 42,96
3 S-Indian 6,7
4 NE-Euro 2,51
5 SW-Asian 11,32
6 Pygmy 0,42
7 American 0,14
8 Siberian 0,17
9 Beringian 0,64
10 Papuan 0,15
11 E-African 0,39
12 SE-Asian 0,68
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 33,06
2 Caucasian 40,32
3 S-Indian 5,11
4 NE-Euro 8,27
5 SW-Asian 10,81
6 Mediterranean 0,69
7 American 0,21
11 E-African 0,06
12 NE-Asian 1,47
Kind of interesting there are PAK balochs with as much SI as some of these mazandaranis, with some even having a bit less SI:
PAK baloch:
Admix Results (sorted)(kit):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 60.88
2 Caucasian 13.73
3 SW-Asian 12.37
4 S-Indian 6.16
5 Siberian 1.98
6 Mediterranean 1.83
7 W-African 1.62
8 Papuan 0.52
9 E-African 0.43
10 SE-Asian 0.34
11 San 0.13
Mazandaranis:
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 31,47
2 Caucasian 46,12
3 S-Indian 7,56
4 NE-Euron 1,11
5 SW-Asian 8,26
6 Mediterranean 3,05
8 Siberian 0,6
9 Beringian 0,11
10 Papuan 1,08
11 W-African 0,22
12 San 0,36
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 33,29
2 Caucasian 41,21
3 S-Indian 5,66
4 NE-Euro 2,97
5 SW-Asian 10,38
6 Mediterranean 2,83
7 American 0,8
8 Siberian 0,67
9 Beringian 0,78
11 W-African 0,35
12 SE-Asian 1,06
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 30,65
2 Caucasian 40,27
3 S-Indian 5,98
4 NE-Euro 5,67
5 SW-Asian 12,24
6 Mediterranean 3,56
7 American
8 Siberian
9 Beringian 0,72
10 Papuan 0,32
11 E-African 0,59
12 NE-Asian
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 33,92
2 Caucasian 42,96
3 S-Indian 6,7
4 NE-Euro 2,51
5 SW-Asian 11,32
6 Pygmy 0,42
7 American 0,14
8 Siberian 0,17
9 Beringian 0,64
10 Papuan 0,15
11 E-African 0,39
12 SE-Asian 0,68
Also, some iranian sample:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 42.31
2 Baloch 22.7
3 SW-Asian 13.49
4 NE-Euro 9.04
5 Mediterranean 8.48
6 S-Indian 2.58
7 Papuan 0.81
8 Beringian 0.46
9 NE-Asian 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 kurd (harappa) 5.56
2 turkish (harappa) 5.85
3 kurd (yunusbayev) 6.21
4 iranian (harappa) 7.08
5 azeri (harappa) 7.2
6 kurd (xing) 7.43
7 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 7.62
8 armenian (harappa) 7.92
9 iranian (behar) 8.13
10 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 9.23
11 turk (behar) 9.45
12 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 9.67
13 iraqi-arab (harappa) 11.79
14 assyrian (harappa) 12.28
15 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 12.92
16 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 13.64
17 georgia-jew (behar) 13.72
18 iranian-jew (behar) 13.76
19 kumyk (yunusbayev) 14.49
20 iraq-jew (behar) 14.61
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.3% kurd (yunusbayev) + 13.7% romanian-a (behar) @ 2.47
2 86% kurd (yunusbayev) + 14% bulgarian (yunusbayev) @ 2.47
3 85.2% kurd (yunusbayev) + 14.8% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 2.48
4 87.9% kurd (yunusbayev) + 12.1% italian (hgdp) @ 2.58
5 76.7% kurd (xing) + 23.3% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 2.79
6 82.7% kurd (xing) + 17.3% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 2.85
7 90.4% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.6% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 2.89
8 90.5% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.5% french (hgdp) @ 2.89
9 90.1% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.9% hungarian (behar) @ 2.98
10 90.3% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.7% slovenian (xing) @ 3
11 84.1% kurd (xing) + 15.9% romanian-a (behar) @ 3.04
12 91.4% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.6% n-european (xing) @ 3.09
13 88.4% kurd (harappa) + 11.6% bulgarian (yunusbayev) @ 3.15
14 91.5% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.5% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 3.15
15 91.7% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.3% british (1000genomes) @ 3.21
16 86% kurd (xing) + 14% italian (hgdp) @ 3.23
17 84.5% kurd (harappa) + 15.5% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 3.28
18 81.2% kurd (yunusbayev) + 18.8% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 3.3
19 92.1% kurd (yunusbayev) + 7.9% orcadian (hgdp) @ 3.32
20 83% kurd (yunusbayev) + 17% morocco-jew (behar) @ 3.37
Not sure if kurdish, iranian or turkish. But if the latters, he sure is one of the most steppe-shifted ones....
Also:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 33.51
2 Caucasian 28.96
3 SW-Asian 10.55
4 S-Indian 10.2
5 NE-Euro 5.98
6 Mediterranean 3.69
7 W-African 2.69
8 Siberian 1.54
9 NE-Asian 1.32
10 E-African 1.08
11 Beringian 0.39
12 San 0.06
13 Papuan 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 12.85
2 turkmen (yunusbayev) 13.21
3 iranian (harappa) 13.74
4 pashtun (harappa) 14.56
5 kurd (harappa) 15.34
6 tajik (yunusbayev) 16.2
7 kurd (xing) 17.4
8 kurd (yunusbayev) 18.23
9 kalash (hgdp) 20.43
10 iraqi-arab (harappa) 20.58
11 turkish (harappa) 20.77
12 pathan (hgdp) 20.89
13 azeri (harappa) 21.06
14 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 22.57
15 sindhi (harappa) 22.79
16 makrani (hgdp) 22.89
17 stalskoe (xing) 23.08
18 armenian (harappa) 23.56
19 balochi (hgdp) 23.69
20 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 24.11
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.4% iranian (behar) + 33.6% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.65
2 68.8% iranian (behar) + 31.2% sindhi (hgdp) @ 2.88
3 62.3% iranian (behar) + 37.7% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.9
4 65.8% iranian (behar) + 34.2% burusho (hgdp) @ 3.13
5 64.5% iranian (behar) + 35.5% sindhi (harappa) @ 3.22
6 69.5% iranian (behar) + 30.5% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 3.34
7 61.9% iranian (behar) + 38.1% kalash (hgdp) @ 3.45
8 67.8% iranian (behar) + 32.2% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.46
9 65% kurd (harappa) + 35% sindhi (hgdp) @ 3.79
10 71.6% iranian (behar) + 28.4% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 3.85
11 70.9% iranian (behar) + 29.1% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 3.92
12 70.9% iranian (behar) + 29.1% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 3.93
13 62.5% kurd (harappa) + 37.5% bhatia (harappa) @ 4
14 70.8% iranian (behar) + 29.2% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 4.1
15 66.1% iranian (behar) + 33.9% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 4.11
16 53.4% iranian (behar) + 46.6% pashtun (harappa) @ 4.15
17 69.3% iranian (behar) + 30.7% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 4.17
18 72.7% iranian (behar) + 27.3% nepalese-a (xing) @ 4.17
19 69.6% iranian (behar) + 30.4% punjabi (harappa) @ 4.21
20 67.9% iranian (behar) + 32.1% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 4.29
Not sure if bandari, kerman persian or baloch(not likely a baloch though...).
Kind of interesting how the south easterners can be that aasi-shifted...
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 02:47 PM
Another west asian being 7% NE-Euro:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 42.4
2 Baloch 22.46
3 SW-Asian 11.89
4 Mediterranean 9.43
5 NE-Euro 7.18
6 NE-Asian 2.7
7 S-Indian 2.47
8 Siberian 0.61
9 San 0.57
10 Papuan 0.17
11 Beringian 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 turkish (harappa) 4.4
2 kurd (harappa) 5.61
3 kurd (yunusbayev) 6.4
4 azeri (harappa) 6.46
5 iranian (harappa) 6.74
6 armenian (harappa) 7.22
7 kurd (xing) 7.88
8 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 8.12
9 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 8.26
10 turk (behar) 8.41
11 iranian (behar) 8.57
12 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 8.59
13 assyrian (harappa) 12.14
14 iraqi-arab (harappa) 12.19
15 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 13.28
16 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 13.46
17 georgia-jew (behar) 13.88
18 iranian-jew (behar) 13.96
19 armenian (yunusbayev) 14.32
20 kumyk (yunusbayev) 14.39
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.2% kurd (harappa) + 37.8% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 2.6
2 50.1% iranian (behar) + 49.9% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 2.71
3 81% kurd (yunusbayev) + 19% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 2.78
4 79.7% kurd (yunusbayev) + 20.3% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 2.8
5 85.1% kurd (yunusbayev) + 14.9% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 2.8
6 71.2% kurd (yunusbayev) + 28.8% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 2.86
7 75% iranian (harappa) + 25% cypriot (behar) @ 2.89
8 79.6% armenian (harappa) + 20.4% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 2.91
9 87.8% kurd (yunusbayev) + 12.2% italian (hgdp) @ 2.96
10 61.3% kurd (harappa) + 38.7% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 2.97
11 51.6% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 48.4% iranian (behar) @ 3.1
12 62.7% kurd (harappa) + 37.3% turk (behar) @ 3.15
13 90.3% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.7% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 3.16
14 66.2% turkish (harappa) + 33.8% iranian (harappa) @ 3.19
15 60.5% turkish (harappa) + 39.5% kurd (harappa) @ 3.21
16 91% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9% sardinian (hgdp) @ 3.24
17 50.6% turk (behar) + 49.4% iranian (behar) @ 3.26
18 73% turkish (harappa) + 27% iranian (behar) @ 3.28
19 93.7% turkish (harappa) + 6.3% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.28
20 93.2% turkish (harappa) + 6.8% makrani (hgdp) @ 3.31
Babak
09-09-2019, 02:47 PM
Some mazandarani harrapaworld admix results(couldnt find the kits though):
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 31,98
2 Caucasian 41,75
3 S-Indian 2,83
4 NE-Euro 4,71
5 SW-Asian 11,33
6 Mediterranean 3,63
7 American 0,06
9 Beringian 0,2
10 Papuan 0,71
11 San 0,85
12 SE-Asian 1,95
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 31,47
2 Caucasian 46,12
3 S-Indian 7,56
4 NE-Euron 1,11
5 SW-Asian 8,26
6 Mediterranean 3,05
8 Siberian 0,6
9 Beringian 0,11
10 Papuan 1,08
11 W-African 0,22
12 San 0,36
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 33,29
2 Caucasian 41,21
3 S-Indian 5,66
4 NE-Euro 2,97
5 SW-Asian 10,38
6 Mediterranean 2,83
7 American 0,8
8 Siberian 0,67
9 Beringian 0,78
11 W-African 0,35
12 SE-Asian 1,06
' # Population Percent (kit number: HY2480849 )
1 Baloch 34,96
2 Caucasian 44,13
3 S-Indian 4,04
4 NE-Euro 3,36
5 SW-Asian 7,82
6 Mediterranean 0,76
7 American 1,09
8 Siberian 0,87
9 Beringian
10 Papuan 0,14
11 W-African 0,83
12 NE-Asian 1,66
13 San 0,17
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 31,77
2 Caucasian 44,64
3 S-Indian 4.95
4 NE-Euro 5,24
5 SW-Asian 10,79
6 Mediterranean 0,93
7 American
8 Siberian 0,38
9 Beringian 0,08
10 Pygmy 0,1
11 E-African 0,18
12 SE-Asian 0,95
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 30,65
2 Caucasian 40,27
3 S-Indian 5,98
4 NE-Euro 5,67
5 SW-Asian 12,24
6 Mediterranean 3,56
7 American
8 Siberian
9 Beringian 0,72
10 Papuan 0,32
11 E-African 0,59
12 NE-Asian
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 31,92
2 Caucasian 45,71
3 S-Indian 3,97
4 NE-Euro 4,53
5 SW-Asian 9,92
6 Mediterranean 0,67
7 Pygmy 0,94
8 Siberian 0,81
9 Beringian 1,41
10 Papuan 0,08
11 E-African
12 NE-Asian
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 33,92
2 Caucasian 42,96
3 S-Indian 6,7
4 NE-Euro 2,51
5 SW-Asian 11,32
6 Pygmy 0,42
7 American 0,14
8 Siberian 0,17
9 Beringian 0,64
10 Papuan 0,15
11 E-African 0,39
12 SE-Asian 0,68
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 33,06
2 Caucasian 40,32
3 S-Indian 5,11
4 NE-Euro 8,27
5 SW-Asian 10,81
6 Mediterranean 0,69
7 American 0,21
11 E-African 0,06
12 NE-Asian 1,47
Kind of interesting there are PAK balochs with as much SI as some of these mazandaranis, with some even having a bit less SI:
PAK baloch:
Admix Results (sorted)(kit):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 60.88
2 Caucasian 13.73
3 SW-Asian 12.37
4 S-Indian 6.16
5 Siberian 1.98
6 Mediterranean 1.83
7 W-African 1.62
8 Papuan 0.52
9 E-African 0.43
10 SE-Asian 0.34
11 San 0.13
Mazandaranis:
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 31,47
2 Caucasian 46,12
3 S-Indian 7,56
4 NE-Euron 1,11
5 SW-Asian 8,26
6 Mediterranean 3,05
8 Siberian 0,6
9 Beringian 0,11
10 Papuan 1,08
11 W-African 0,22
12 San 0,36
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 33,29
2 Caucasian 41,21
3 S-Indian 5,66
4 NE-Euro 2,97
5 SW-Asian 10,38
6 Mediterranean 2,83
7 American 0,8
8 Siberian 0,67
9 Beringian 0,78
11 W-African 0,35
12 SE-Asian 1,06
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 30,65
2 Caucasian 40,27
3 S-Indian 5,98
4 NE-Euro 5,67
5 SW-Asian 12,24
6 Mediterranean 3,56
7 American
8 Siberian
9 Beringian 0,72
10 Papuan 0,32
11 E-African 0,59
12 NE-Asian
' # Population Percent
1 Baloch 33,92
2 Caucasian 42,96
3 S-Indian 6,7
4 NE-Euro 2,51
5 SW-Asian 11,32
6 Pygmy 0,42
7 American 0,14
8 Siberian 0,17
9 Beringian 0,64
10 Papuan 0,15
11 E-African 0,39
12 SE-Asian 0,68
Also, some iranian sample:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 42.31
2 Baloch 22.7
3 SW-Asian 13.49
4 NE-Euro 9.04
5 Mediterranean 8.48
6 S-Indian 2.58
7 Papuan 0.81
8 Beringian 0.46
9 NE-Asian 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 kurd (harappa) 5.56
2 turkish (harappa) 5.85
3 kurd (yunusbayev) 6.21
4 iranian (harappa) 7.08
5 azeri (harappa) 7.2
6 kurd (xing) 7.43
7 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 7.62
8 armenian (harappa) 7.92
9 iranian (behar) 8.13
10 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 9.23
11 turk (behar) 9.45
12 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 9.67
13 iraqi-arab (harappa) 11.79
14 assyrian (harappa) 12.28
15 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 12.92
16 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 13.64
17 georgia-jew (behar) 13.72
18 iranian-jew (behar) 13.76
19 kumyk (yunusbayev) 14.49
20 iraq-jew (behar) 14.61
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.3% kurd (yunusbayev) + 13.7% romanian-a (behar) @ 2.47
2 86% kurd (yunusbayev) + 14% bulgarian (yunusbayev) @ 2.47
3 85.2% kurd (yunusbayev) + 14.8% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 2.48
4 87.9% kurd (yunusbayev) + 12.1% italian (hgdp) @ 2.58
5 76.7% kurd (xing) + 23.3% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 2.79
6 82.7% kurd (xing) + 17.3% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 2.85
7 90.4% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.6% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 2.89
8 90.5% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.5% french (hgdp) @ 2.89
9 90.1% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.9% hungarian (behar) @ 2.98
10 90.3% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.7% slovenian (xing) @ 3
11 84.1% kurd (xing) + 15.9% romanian-a (behar) @ 3.04
12 91.4% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.6% n-european (xing) @ 3.09
13 88.4% kurd (harappa) + 11.6% bulgarian (yunusbayev) @ 3.15
14 91.5% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.5% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 3.15
15 91.7% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.3% british (1000genomes) @ 3.21
16 86% kurd (xing) + 14% italian (hgdp) @ 3.23
17 84.5% kurd (harappa) + 15.5% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 3.28
18 81.2% kurd (yunusbayev) + 18.8% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 3.3
19 92.1% kurd (yunusbayev) + 7.9% orcadian (hgdp) @ 3.32
20 83% kurd (yunusbayev) + 17% morocco-jew (behar) @ 3.37
Not sure if kurdish, iranian or turkish. But if the latters, he sure is one of the most steppe-shifted ones....
Good stuff. Guess they are pretty steppe-shifted.
Here's another result from Gorgan:
Punt K12
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus_HG 44.17
2 Anatolian_NF 19.31
3 South_Asian 13.84
4 Near_East 13.11
5 European_HG 4.94
6 East_Asian 1.78
7 Siberian 1.41
8 South_African_HG 0.66
9 Sub-Saharan 0.65
10 Oceanian 0.14
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian 7.19
2 Kurdish 11.7
3 Turkish 13.74
4 Georgian_Jew 15.97
5 Kumyk 16.29
6 Afghan_Pashtun 16.37
7 Laz 16.72
8 Turkish_Trabzon 17
9 Turkish_Kayseri 17.1
10 Chechen 17.15
11 Assyrian 17.57
12 Iranian_Jew 17.91
13 Armenian 18.04
14 North_Ossetian 18.29
15 Balkar 19.62
16 Adygei 20.04
17 Balochi 20.36
18 Abkhasian 20.66
19 Makrani 21.05
20 Pakistan_Pashtun 21.3
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.3% Georgian_Jew + 35.7% Burusho @ 1.98
2 80.5% Iranian + 19.5% Burusho @ 2
3 63.1% Georgian_Jew + 36.9% Pathan @ 2.45
4 82% Iranian + 18% Kashmir @ 2.57
5 80.2% Iranian + 19.8% Pathan @ 2.7
6 81.4% Iranian + 18.6% Sindhi @ 2.72
7 87.2% Iranian + 12.8% Bengali_Muslim @ 2.74
8 56.1% Makrani + 43.9% Cypriot @ 2.81
9 82.2% Iranian + 17.8% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim @ 2.91
10 80.4% Iranian + 19.6% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh @ 2.99
11 76.4% Iranian + 23.6% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 3.06
12 66.1% Georgian_Jew + 33.9% Kashmir @ 3.08
13 84.3% Iranian + 15.7% UP_Muslim @ 3.16
14 88.2% Iranian + 11.8% Keralam @ 3.19
15 81.9% Iranian + 18.1% Haryana_Jatt @ 3.21
16 86.9% Iranian + 13.1% Gujarati @ 3.22
17 57.4% Georgian_Jew + 42.6% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 3.25
18 63.1% Georgian_Jew + 36.9% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh @ 3.28
19 57.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 42.9% Iraqi_Jew @ 3.28
20 71.6% Iranian + 28.4% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.33
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 02:49 PM
Good stuff. Guess they are pretty steppe-shifted.
Here's another result from Gorgan:
Punt K12
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus_HG 44.17
2 Anatolian_NF 19.31
3 South_Asian 13.84
4 Near_East 13.11
5 European_HG 4.94
6 East_Asian 1.78
7 Siberian 1.41
8 South_African_HG 0.66
9 Sub-Saharan 0.65
10 Oceanian 0.14
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian 7.19
2 Kurdish 11.7
3 Turkish 13.74
4 Georgian_Jew 15.97
5 Kumyk 16.29
6 Afghan_Pashtun 16.37
7 Laz 16.72
8 Turkish_Trabzon 17
9 Turkish_Kayseri 17.1
10 Chechen 17.15
11 Assyrian 17.57
12 Iranian_Jew 17.91
13 Armenian 18.04
14 North_Ossetian 18.29
15 Balkar 19.62
16 Adygei 20.04
17 Balochi 20.36
18 Abkhasian 20.66
19 Makrani 21.05
20 Pakistan_Pashtun 21.3
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.3% Georgian_Jew + 35.7% Burusho @ 1.98
2 80.5% Iranian + 19.5% Burusho @ 2
3 63.1% Georgian_Jew + 36.9% Pathan @ 2.45
4 82% Iranian + 18% Kashmir @ 2.57
5 80.2% Iranian + 19.8% Pathan @ 2.7
6 81.4% Iranian + 18.6% Sindhi @ 2.72
7 87.2% Iranian + 12.8% Bengali_Muslim @ 2.74
8 56.1% Makrani + 43.9% Cypriot @ 2.81
9 82.2% Iranian + 17.8% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim @ 2.91
10 80.4% Iranian + 19.6% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh @ 2.99
11 76.4% Iranian + 23.6% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 3.06
12 66.1% Georgian_Jew + 33.9% Kashmir @ 3.08
13 84.3% Iranian + 15.7% UP_Muslim @ 3.16
14 88.2% Iranian + 11.8% Keralam @ 3.19
15 81.9% Iranian + 18.1% Haryana_Jatt @ 3.21
16 86.9% Iranian + 13.1% Gujarati @ 3.22
17 57.4% Georgian_Jew + 42.6% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 3.25
18 63.1% Georgian_Jew + 36.9% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh @ 3.28
19 57.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 42.9% Iraqi_Jew @ 3.28
20 71.6% Iranian + 28.4% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.33
COuld you post his harrappaworld results?
Seems pretty CHG-shifted. Even gets modelled as 1/3 burusho and 2/3 georgian jew...
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 02:49 PM
But thing is though....im not entirely sure what they are though....the "steppe-shifted" west asians....they could been turks, kurds or iranians...
Babak
09-09-2019, 02:53 PM
But thing is though....im not entirely sure what they are though....the "steppe-shifted" west asians....they could been turks, kurds or iranians...
I only found his K12, couldn't find his harappa on anthrogenica This guy is probably native though.
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?6472-Khorasan
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 02:55 PM
I only found his K12, couldn't find his harappa on anthrogenica This guy is probably native though.
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?6472-Khorasan
aaaw....well, i will compare his k12 puntdal with the other mazandarani:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus_HG 50.18
2 Anatolian_NF 16.2
3 South_Asian 14.05
4 Near_East 9.86
5 European_HG 5.93
6 Amerindian 1.4
7 Sub-Saharan 0.98
8 South_African_HG 0.86
9 East_Asian 0.44
10 Oceanian 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian 11.36
2 Afghan_Pashtun 13.58
3 Kurdish 15.33
4 Balochi 15.42
5 Chechen 15.92
6 Makrani 16.07
7 North_Ossetian 16.27
8 Kumyk 16.59
9 Abkhasian 17.84
10 Brahui 17.97
11 Lezgin 18.35
12 Turkish 18.62
13 Laz 18.99
14 Pakistan_Pashtun 19.12
15 Adygei 19.18
16 Turkish_Trabzon 19.32
17 Balkar 19.65
18 Georgian_Jew 19.67
19 Georgian 20.28
20 Armenian 21.02
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.2% Makrani + 45.8% Laz @ 2.15
2 57.2% Makrani + 42.8% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.49
3 51.2% Kurdish + 48.8% Makrani @ 2.58
4 56.8% Makrani + 43.2% Armenian @ 2.71
5 55.8% Balochi + 44.2% Turkish_Trabzon @ 2.84
6 54.7% Makrani + 45.3% Turkish_Trabzon @ 3.03
7 58.1% Iranian + 41.9% Balochi @ 3.22
8 55.4% Balochi + 44.6% Laz @ 3.24
9 56.3% Balochi + 43.7% Georgian_Jew @ 3.31
10 58% Balochi + 42% Armenian @ 3.45
11 51.4% Brahui + 48.6% Laz @ 3.53
12 51.9% Brahui + 48.1% Turkish_Trabzon @ 3.67
13 59.8% Balochi + 40.2% Assyrian @ 3.67
14 54.5% Brahui + 45.5% Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.78
15 59.3% Iranian + 40.7% Makrani @ 3.78
16 62.1% Iranian + 37.9% Brahui @ 3.79
17 54.2% Kurdish + 45.8% Brahui @ 3.81
18 58.5% Balochi + 41.5% Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.82
19 67.1% Makrani + 32.9% Cypriot @ 3.84
20 59.8% Balochi + 40.2% Iranian_Jew @ 3.96
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 02:57 PM
puntdal seems kind of pretty bad calc...
Babak
09-09-2019, 02:59 PM
puntdal seems kind of pretty bad calc...
Wish i had his kit#, would really help us out
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 02:59 PM
Apparently, if this is a kurd/iranian, seems like west asian iranics with below 1% SI seems to appear frequently....
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 41.09
2 Baloch 23.64
3 SW-Asian 10.68
4 Mediterranean 9.96
5 NE-Euro 6.75
6 NE-Asian 3.6
7 Pygmy 1.13
8 Siberian 1.11
9 Beringian 1.01
10 S-Indian 0.6
11 Papuan 0.26
12 SE-Asian 0.09
13 American 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 turkish (harappa) 5.77
2 kurd (harappa) 6.29
3 iranian (harappa) 6.83
4 kurd (yunusbayev) 7.34
5 azeri (harappa) 7.76
6 kurd (xing) 8.34
7 iranian (behar) 9.01
8 armenian (harappa) 9.03
9 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 9.16
10 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 9.46
11 turk (behar) 9.55
12 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 10.15
13 iraqi-arab (harappa) 13.38
14 assyrian (harappa) 13.76
15 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 14.58
16 kumyk (yunusbayev) 14.61
17 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 14.82
18 turkmen (yunusbayev) 15.21
19 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 15.22
20 iranian-jew (behar) 15.57
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.1% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 17.9% makrani (hgdp) @ 3.77
2 83.6% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 16.4% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.78
3 91.1% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.9% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 3.88
4 91.2% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.8% basque (hgdp) @ 3.88
5 89.2% kurd (yunusbayev) + 10.8% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 3.96
6 83.1% turk (behar) + 16.9% brahui (hgdp) @ 4.02
7 81.6% turk (behar) + 18.4% makrani (hgdp) @ 4.03
8 82.8% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 17.2% balochi (hgdp) @ 4.08
9 91.3% turkish (harappa) + 8.7% brahui (hgdp) @ 4.09
10 87% kurd (yunusbayev) + 13% italian (hgdp) @ 4.13
11 65.9% kurd (xing) + 34.1% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 4.13
12 90.5% turkish (harappa) + 9.5% makrani (hgdp) @ 4.14
13 80.9% iranian (harappa) + 19.1% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 4.16
14 75.2% armenian (harappa) + 24.8% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 4.18
15 90.2% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.8% sardinian (hgdp) @ 4.19
16 61.1% iranian (harappa) + 38.9% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 4.19
17 64.4% kurd (harappa) + 35.6% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 4.19
18 84.8% kurd (yunusbayev) + 15.2% tuscan (hapmap) @ 4.2
19 60.2% iranian (harappa) + 39.8% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 4.22
20 85.8% iranian (harappa) + 14.2% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 4.22
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 03:01 PM
Wish i had his kit#, would really help us out
Might find that a day unexpectingly....kits like these just seems to chill around the other kits in gedmatch...
But thing is though....im not entirely sure what they are though....the "steppe-shifted" west asians....they could been turks, kurds or iranians...
9% Northeuro is average for iranian azeris
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 03:05 PM
9% Northeuro is average for iranian azeris
That might explain the kind of persian names of their accounts....
That might explain the kind of persian names of their accounts....
The result doesn't look Azeri though. It's lacking in east eurasian. So my guess is Kurdish.
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 03:09 PM
The result doesn't look Azeri though. It's lacking in east eurasian. So my guess is Kurdish.
Well....i can always ask the owners of these kits....
Well....i can always ask the owners of these kits....
Yep. Do you have Kits from Gilan province?
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 03:12 PM
fuck....the site(gedmatch) is down for a while....
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 03:13 PM
Yep. Do you have Kits from Gilan province?
dont think so...
dont think so...
Would like to know if they're closer to Talysh and Azeris or to Mazandaranis or regular persian even
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 03:17 PM
Would like to know if they're closer to Talysh and Azeris or to Mazandaranis or regular persian even
dont even know where theyre from, how their names sound or even if i ever will find them in gedmatch.....dont think i ever come with samples from that place...
What about Iranians from Fars (the city of Shiraz)? Do they have any black blood? Arabia is not from there after all.
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 03:21 PM
What about Iranians from Fars (the city of Shiraz)? Do they have any black blood? Arabia is not from there after all.
Actually, many of the samples i found can be quiet diverse. Im not entirely sure if fars or shiraz(i think shiraz too). They can be quiet diverse. SOme are just like other west iranians. SOme are like iranian balochis, while others mixed inbetween balochs and west iranians. SOme have african in them partly and some are like arabs.
Actually, many of the samples i found can be quiet diverse. Im not entirely sure if fars or shiraz(i think shiraz too). They can be quiet diverse. SOme are just like other west iranians. SOme are like iranian balochis, while others mixed inbetween balochs and west iranians. SOme have african in them partly and some are like arabs.
Well, that's like the heartland of Persia. Farsi is named after Fars.
What about Iranians from Fars (the city of Shiraz)? Do they have any black blood? Arabia is not from there after all.
Have seen a couple of results from regular Persians from Shiraz. They seemed to be on the southern end of the usual West Iranian cline, meaning more Gedrosian/Baloch than in the Northwest and a bit less Euro.
Shiraz Persian
Gedrosia 28,47
NW Africa 2,08
Atlantic_med 6,12
Northeuro 5,61
Southasian 5,29
SW_Asian 12,49
Eastasian 1,15
Caucasus 38,78
(Edit this one's not from Shiraz, it's a Shiite result):
Gedrosia 27,33
Southeast_asia1,83
Atlantic_med 3,15
North_euro 5,21
South_asia 4,61
East_african 2,11
SW_Asian 17,63
East_asian 0,76
Caucasus 37,36
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 03:28 PM
Have seen a couple of results from regular Persians from Shiraz. They seemed to be on the usual West Iranian cline, meaning more Gedrosian/Baloch than in the Northwest and a bit less Euro.
i think shirazis, like fars, will be diverse, unlike mazandaranis and complete NW'ers. So hard to give a clear conclusion unless we go with shirazis being very diverse....
i think shirazis, like fars, will be diverse, unlike mazandaranis and complete NW'ers. So hard to give a clear conclusion unless we go with shirazis being very diverse....
I dont think Persians from Shiraz will be diverse. If you're talking about minorities yes it will.
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 03:31 PM
I dont think Persians from Shiraz will be diverse. If you're talking about minorities yes it will.
well, ok then. Guess youre right...
Babak
09-09-2019, 03:38 PM
edit
hussein khan
09-09-2019, 03:40 PM
Have seen a couple of results from regular Persians from Shiraz. They seemed to be on the southern end of the usual West Iranian cline, meaning more Gedrosian/Baloch than in the Northwest and a bit less Euro.
Shiraz Persian
Gedrosia 28,47
NW Africa 2,08
Atlantic_med 6,12
Northeuro 5,61
Southasian 5,29
SW_Asian 12,49
Eastasian 1,15
Caucasus 38,78
Another
Gedrosia 27,33
Southeast_asia1,83
Atlantic_med 3,15
North_euro 5,21
South_asia 4,61
East_african 2,11
SW_Asian 17,63
East_asian 0,76
Caucasus 37,36
could you post their harrappaworld?
could you post their harrappaworld?
when gm is working again
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