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Methuselah
06-21-2018, 12:25 AM
This caused some controversy years ago [1]. Eran Elhaik compared Jewish genome to Armenians and Georgians and suggested strong links to Caucasus [2]. Michael Hammer, however, disagrees [3] saying Elhaik is wrong saying so and those similarities could be explained by the fact that both have roots in the Middle East.

[1] https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/01/130116195333.htm
[2] https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fgene.2017.00101/full
[3] https://forward.com/news/israel/175912/jews-a-race-genetic-theory-comes-under-fierce-atta/?p=all&p=all

Either way it seems like Caucasus is a part of many Jews and not only Mountaineers. I even heard somebody reading that Mountain Jews resembled those original Jews the best. Again, i have very little knowledge on this.

Some Jews who possibly have seen Caucasus mountains in their previous lives in not any particular order.

Lil Dicky. A rapper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtl602EL1g

Bob Dylan. A Nobel prize winning musician.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZlsP8LHHAs

Gregory Perelman. One of the greatest mathematicians of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GItmC9lxeco

Zabit Magomedsharipov. Ridiculously talented UFC fighter. Not sure if has Jewish roots, but looks similar to Lil Dicky and comes from Dagestan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg6te3T_Y3Y

Methuselah
06-21-2018, 01:25 PM
Okay. It seems that Dr Eran Elhaik was really arguing that Jews didn't originate in the Middle East. European Jews however, usually lack any significant Central Asian component. So that Caucasus link works only for some Jews like Crimean Karaites and Mountaineers.

https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-religion/99494/a-case-for-genetic-jewishness
https://digitalcommons.wayne.edu/humbiol_preprints/41/

JQP4545
06-23-2018, 04:18 PM
European Jews can get quite of bit of North African DNA on the Gedmatch calculators (I've seen as high as 7-8% on the Dodecad k12b). This component is non-existent in the Caucasus and much higher in the Levant.

Leto
06-23-2018, 05:34 PM
Zabit Magomedsharipov. Ridiculously talented UFC fighter. Not sure if has Jewish roots, but looks similar to Lil Dicky and comes from Dagestan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg6te3T_Y3Y
Zabit doesn't look Jewish to me. In fact, he looks like a very typical person from the North Caucasus.
https://www.riadagestan.ru/upload/iblock/c4d/c4d91d0958c36255e015542a9563ac83.jpg
https://karate.ru/media/images/2017/8/31/image.jpg77235

Methuselah
06-24-2018, 01:38 AM
European Jews can get quite of bit of North African DNA on the Gedmatch calculators (I've seen as high as 7-8% on the Dodecad k12b). This component is non-existent in the Caucasus and much higher in the Levant.

Didn't know Caucasus wolves got none of that... But yeah, i was wondering why some people reject Middle Eastern origins of the Jews.

Methuselah
06-24-2018, 01:45 AM
Zabit doesn't look Jewish to me. In fact, he looks like a very typical person from the North Caucasus.
https://www.riadagestan.ru/upload/iblock/c4d/c4d91d0958c36255e015542a9563ac83.jpg
https://karate.ru/media/images/2017/8/31/image.jpg77235

Agree. I just added him because he looked like Lil Dicky a bit. But i think none of those real Jewish examples i listed could pass in Kavkaz. Lil Dicky looks too Ashkenazi i think. So does Dylan. Maybe Gregory Perelman could pass in parts of Kavkaz, who knows.