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happycow
07-03-2018, 06:06 PM
Gedmatch results of a cousin of mine, related to me on my mothers side. This is quite a bit of Euro admixture for a Jordanian don't you think? The town my moms side of the family is from was a Crusader settlement.




Eurogenes K15

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.3
2 West_Asian 14.9
3 Red_Sea 14.66
4 West_Med 10.44
5 Northeast_African 6.36
6 Eastern_Euro 4.49
7 Atlantic 4.37
8 North_Sea 2.98
9 South_Asian 2.33
10 Sub-Saharan 2.08
11 Siberian 0.59
12 Oceanian 0.51

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jordanian 6.01
2 Syrian 7.14
3 Bedouin 7.95
4 Palestinian 8.32
5 Lebanese_Muslim 9.82
6 Libyan_Jewish 9.88
7 Tunisian_Jewish 10.4
8 Samaritan 10.82
9 Cyprian 12.35
10 Egyptian 12.43
11 Sephardic_Jewish 13.05
12 Lebanese_Christian 13.1
13 Algerian_Jewish 14.02
14 Italian_Jewish 14.26
15 Lebanese_Druze 15.17
16 Kurdish_Jewish 15.83
17 Ashkenazi 15.94
18 Iranian_Jewish 16.01
19 Assyrian 17.5
20 East_Sicilian 17.79

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.6% Jordanian + 10.4% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.99
2 90.5% Jordanian + 9.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.99
3 77.5% Jordanian + 22.5% Ashkenazi @ 3.99
4 89.4% Jordanian + 10.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.02
5 89.6% Jordanian + 10.4% Portuguese @ 4.04
6 90.9% Jordanian + 9.1% Southwest_French @ 4.07
7 90.2% Jordanian + 9.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.09
8 89.9% Jordanian + 10.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.14
9 88.2% Jordanian + 11.8% North_Italian @ 4.14
10 90.8% Jordanian + 9.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.17
11 90.3% Jordanian + 9.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.18
12 89.9% Jordanian + 10.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.18
13 90.6% Jordanian + 9.4% French @ 4.19
14 90.4% Jordanian + 9.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.21
15 90.2% Jordanian + 9.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.21
16 86% Jordanian + 14% Tuscan @ 4.23
17 92.5% Jordanian + 7.5% French_Basque @ 4.26
18 92.3% Jordanian + 7.7% Chuvash @ 4.27
19 88.9% Jordanian + 11.1% Serbian @ 4.27
20 91.4% Jordanian + 8.6% South_Dutch @ 4.31





Dodecad k12b

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.82
2 Southwest_Asian 23.97
3 Atlantic_Med 15.06
4 Gedrosia 11.48
5 Northwest_African 5.21
6 East_African 3.89
7 Sub_Saharan 3.37
8 North_European 2.45
9 Siberian 1.41
10 East_Asian 0.33

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jordanians (Behar) 7.85
2 Syrians (Behar) 8.42
3 Lebanese (Behar) 9
4 Palestinian (HGDP) 10.25
5 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 15.71
6 Egyptans (Behar) 15.83
7 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 16.13
8 Druze (HGDP) 16.27
9 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 16.93
10 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 17.81
11 Cypriots (Behar) 18.74
12 Samaritians (Behar) 19.14
13 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 19.25
14 Yemenese (Behar) 19.79
15 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 20.47
16 Bedouin (HGDP) 20.59
17 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.61
18 Turkish (Dodecad) 20.75
19 Turks (Behar) 20.82
20 Assyrian (Dodecad) 21.09

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.2% Jordanians (Behar) + 9.8% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 3.74
2 86.8% Jordanians (Behar) + 13.2% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 3.82
3 90.7% Jordanians (Behar) + 9.3% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 3.83
4 86.8% Jordanians (Behar) + 13.2% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 3.84
5 87.9% Jordanians (Behar) + 12.1% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 3.85
6 87.8% Jordanians (Behar) + 12.2% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 3.86
7 87.2% Jordanians (Behar) + 12.8% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 3.87
8 88% Jordanians (Behar) + 12% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 3.89
9 88.2% Jordanians (Behar) + 11.8% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 3.89
10 88.4% Jordanians (Behar) + 11.6% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 3.91
11 87% Jordanians (Behar) + 13% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 3.94
12 88.3% Jordanians (Behar) + 11.7% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 3.94
13 87.8% Jordanians (Behar) + 12.2% Spaniards (Behar) @ 3.95
14 86.5% Jordanians (Behar) + 13.5% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 3.97
15 87.6% Jordanians (Behar) + 12.4% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 3.97
16 87.1% Jordanians (Behar) + 12.9% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 4.03
17 87.1% Jordanians (Behar) + 12.9% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 4.1
18 83.1% Syrians (Behar) + 16.9% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 4.16
19 89.8% Jordanians (Behar) + 10.2% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 4.26
20 89.9% Jordanians (Behar) + 10.1% British (Dodecad) @ 4.3


My mothers K15 results in comparison


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 41.45
2 West_Asian 15.28
3 Red_Sea 13.91
4 West_Med 8.66
5 Northeast_African 5.33
6 Atlantic 4.93
7 North_Sea 4.46
8 South_Asian 2.69
9 Sub-Saharan 1.48
10 Eastern_Euro 0.97
11 Amerindian 0.64
12 Baltic 0.1
13 Siberian 0.09
14 Oceanian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jordanian 3.96
2 Palestinian 4.36
3 Syrian 6.33
4 Samaritan 7.9
5 Lebanese_Muslim 8.14
6 Bedouin 8.62
7 Lebanese_Christian 9.64
8 Libyan_Jewish 9.95
9 Tunisian_Jewish 10.42
10 Lebanese_Druze 10.74
11 Cyprian 11.59
12 Kurdish_Jewish 13.41
13 Egyptian 13.51
14 Iranian_Jewish 13.71
15 Sephardic_Jewish 13.86
16 Algerian_Jewish 14.96
17 Italian_Jewish 14.98
18 Assyrian 16.08
19 Ashkenazi 18.27
20 South_Italian 19.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94% Palestinian + 6% Orcadian @ 2.67
2 93% Palestinian + 7% West_German @ 2.69
3 93.8% Palestinian + 6.2% Southwest_English @ 2.73
4 92.9% Palestinian + 7.1% French @ 2.76
5 93.9% Palestinian + 6.1% Southeast_English @ 2.77
6 94.1% Palestinian + 5.9% West_Scottish @ 2.79
7 94.3% Palestinian + 5.7% West_Norwegian @ 2.8
8 93.3% Palestinian + 6.7% South_Dutch @ 2.8
9 94.1% Palestinian + 5.9% Irish @ 2.81
10 94% Palestinian + 6% North_Dutch @ 2.81
11 94% Palestinian + 6% Danish @ 2.81
12 94.2% Palestinian + 5.8% Norwegian @ 2.82
13 87.2% Palestinian + 12.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.84
14 93.8% Palestinian + 6.2% North_German @ 2.86
15 94.3% Palestinian + 5.7% Swedish @ 2.9
16 92.7% Palestinian + 7.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.9
17 92.4% Palestinian + 7.6% Tadjik @ 2.91
18 85.7% Palestinian + 14.3% East_Sicilian @ 2.92
19 92.6% Palestinian + 7.4% Portuguese @ 2.92
20 84.8% Palestinian + 15.2% Ashkenazi @ 2.92


My mothers k12b


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.03
2 Southwest_Asian 23.36
3 Atlantic_Med 13.62
4 Gedrosia 11.47
5 Northwest_African 6.9
6 East_African 4.3
7 North_European 1.97
8 Sub_Saharan 1.25
9 South_Asian 1.17
10 East_Asian 0.44
11 Siberian 0.32
12 Southeast_Asian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jordanians (Behar) 6.37
2 Lebanese (Behar) 6.84
3 Syrians (Behar) 7.79
4 Palestinian (HGDP) 9.17
5 Druze (HGDP) 14.17
6 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 15.01
7 Egyptans (Behar) 15.74
8 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 15.96
9 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 16.07
10 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 16.08
11 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 17.23
12 Samaritians (Behar) 17.49
13 Cypriots (Behar) 17.56
14 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 19.17
15 Assyrian (Dodecad) 19.21
16 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 19.48
17 Turks (Behar) 19.58
18 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.66
19 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 20.54
20 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.57

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.3% Jordanians (Behar) + 10.7% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 3.44
2 86.8% Syrians (Behar) + 13.2% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 3.44
3 90% Jordanians (Behar) + 10% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 3.64
4 90% Jordanians (Behar) + 10% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 3.65
5 90.2% Jordanians (Behar) + 9.8% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 3.65
6 90.6% Jordanians (Behar) + 9.4% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 3.75
7 84.3% Syrians (Behar) + 15.7% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 3.77
8 90.9% Jordanians (Behar) + 9.1% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 3.78
9 90.2% Jordanians (Behar) + 9.8% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 3.8
10 91.2% Jordanians (Behar) + 8.8% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 3.8
11 91% Jordanians (Behar) + 9% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 3.83
12 91.3% Jordanians (Behar) + 8.7% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 3.83
13 91% Jordanians (Behar) + 9% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 3.83
14 90.9% Jordanians (Behar) + 9.1% Spaniards (Behar) @ 3.84
15 90.2% Jordanians (Behar) + 9.8% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 3.84
16 90.2% Jordanians (Behar) + 9.8% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 3.85
17 91.3% Jordanians (Behar) + 8.7% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 3.87
18 87.3% Syrians (Behar) + 12.7% Moroccans (Behar) @ 3.9
19 92.9% Jordanians (Behar) + 7.1% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 3.94
20 93.3% Jordanians (Behar) + 6.7% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 3.96

rein
07-03-2018, 06:09 PM
What percentage of Euro do they have on their original test?

happycow
07-03-2018, 06:12 PM
What percentage of Euro do they have on their original test?

11% South Europe and 2% Europe West. We both got the same amount of Europe West but she scored 5% more South Europe

rein
07-03-2018, 06:13 PM
11% South Europe and 2% Europe West. We both got the same amount of Europe West but she scored 5% more South Europe

I’m assuming that’s AncestryDNA.

happycow
07-03-2018, 06:15 PM
I’m assuming that’s AncestryDNA.

Yeah Ancestry. The only Euro my mother got on Ancestry was <1% Scottish/Irish and Iberian.

Haider
07-03-2018, 07:08 PM
I've noticed Jordanians have more European input than Palestinians, but on the other hand they also have more Bedouin ancestry.

Bobby Martnen
07-03-2018, 07:17 PM
Here's a Jordanian with a lot of Euro admixture

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Abdullah+II+Jordan+King+Abdullah+II+Jordan+edRyRq3 NfLtl.jpg

happycow
07-03-2018, 07:26 PM
I've noticed Jordanians have more European input than Palestinians, but on the other hand they also have more Bedouin ancestry.

Yeah I'm guessing most of my Euro and Bedouin admixture comes from my mothers side. Although I still need to get my dad tested, but my guess is Euro admixture is much less if any on his side. My results that show a shift towards the caucasus is likely from his side.

rein
07-03-2018, 07:30 PM
I have a few DNA relatives from Jordan on 23andme and they have very little Euro (0.5-1.8%). On the other hand, one Palestinian has 3.8% Euro and another who listed 4 grandparents from Palestine has 53.7% European.

Someone from 23andmeforums have also shown me a few Lebanese results and they have quite a lot of Euro (in double digits percentages).

happycow
07-03-2018, 07:48 PM
I have a few DNA relatives from Jordan on 23andme and they have very little Euro (0.5-1.8%). On the other hand, one Palestinian has 3.8% Euro and another who listed 4 grandparents from Palestine has 53.7% European.

Someone from 23andmeforums have also shown me a few Lebanese results and they have quite a lot of Euro (in double digits percentages).

Lebanese muslims seem to have the most European influence compared to Palestinians and Jordanians. Euro elements in my palestinian and jordanian relatives seem to vary, with some having almost none. But I do have a lot of European relatives.

My guess for my dads side not having much Euro influence is because he likely descends from recently converted Christians, and the Lebanese and Palestinian Christians seem to have less Western Europe influence

Aren
07-04-2018, 05:55 PM
Not really, just looks like more Anatolian_N like ancestry, which is why he's getting best match with extra Iberian and Sardinian input in his oracles. Jordanians are obviously very diverse and he just doesn't fit with the Jordanian average on Gedmatch.

happycow
07-04-2018, 06:14 PM
Not really, just looks like more Anatolian_N like ancestry, which is why he's getting best match with extra Iberian and Sardinian input in his oracles. Jordanians are obviously very diverse and he just doesn't fit with the Jordanian average on Gedmatch.

Indeed they are. The other Jordanian kits I've looked at in my gedmatch matches have very different results.