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Sikeliot
07-05-2018, 10:54 PM
MDLP K23:


# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.13
2 European_Early_Farmers 22.98
3 Near_East 12.44
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 11.37
5 North_African 8.07
6 South_Central_Asian 6.03
7 Austronesian 1.43
8 South_Indian 1.22
9 Ancestral_Altaic 1.18


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_West_ @ 3.608667
2 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 4.012041
3 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 4.486511
4 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 4.493800
5 Maltese_ @ 4.514469
6 Sicilian_East_ @ 5.211127
7 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 5.212102
8 French_Jew_ @ 6.068253
9 Ashkenazi_ @ 7.474073
10 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 7.754427
11 Turk_Jew_ @ 7.793294
12 Italian_Jew_ @ 8.039906
13 Romanian_Jew_ @ 8.253792
14 Cretan_ @ 8.561618
15 Sicilian_Center_ @ 9.135354
16 Moroccan_Jew_ @ 9.390061
17 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 9.529661
18 Italian_South_ @ 10.209891
19 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 11.067384
20 Greek_Athens_ @ 11.231257

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Druze_ +50% Portugese_ @ 2.091060


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi_Jew_ +25% Portugese_ +25% Samaritian_ @ 1.838418


MDLP World:


# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 39.35
2 Middle_East 25.38
3 Caucaus_Parsia 19.05
4 North_and_East_European 11.4
5 Indian 2.39
6 Sub_Saharian 1.64
7 East_Asian 0.5
8 Paleo_African 0.28

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jew_Romania 4.27
2 Sicilian 5.75
3 Greek_Cretan 6.86
4 Ashkenazim 7.48
5 Jew_France 7.5
6 Greek_East 7.6
7 Jew_Italia 7.75
8 Italian-Center 7.83
9 Italian-South 8.37
10 Greek_Center 8.86
11 Greek_South 9.08
12 Sephardim 9.85
13 Ashkenazim_V 9.85
14 Greek_North 10.1
15 Jew_Algeria 11.27
16 Jew_Tunisia 13.13
17 Jew_Morocco 13.19
18 Greek_Azov 13.95
19 Cypriot 14.61
20 Jew_Libya 15.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.8% Lebanese + 45.2% Iberian @ 1.38
2 52.1% Lebanese + 47.9% Portugese @ 1.39
3 59.3% Greek_South + 40.7% Jew_Tunisia @ 1.68
4 56.6% Lebanese + 43.4% Spaniard @ 1.71
5 51.4% Druze + 48.6% Portugese @ 1.73
6 63.4% Greek_South + 36.6% Jew_Libya @ 1.76
7 53.7% Syrian + 46.3% Spaniard @ 1.84
8 61.9% Jew_Tunisia + 38.1% Romania @ 1.84
9 55.6% Greek_South + 44.4% Jew_Algeria @ 1.88
10 51.9% Syrian + 48.1% Iberian @ 1.9
11 61.6% Syrian + 38.4% Basque @ 2.01
12 54.3% Corsican + 45.7% Syrian @ 2.14
13 56.8% Greek_North + 43.2% Jew_Tunisia @ 2.17
14 60.9% Greek_North + 39.1% Jew_Libya @ 2.18
15 54.2% Druze + 45.8% Iberian @ 2.22
16 84.7% Greek_Center + 15.3% Bedouin @ 2.24
17 52.9% Greek_North + 47.1% Jew_Algeria @ 2.28
18 55.8% Portugese + 44.2% Jew_Iraqi @ 2.33
19 76% Greek_South + 24% Palestinian @ 2.36
20 52.5% Portugese + 47.5% Jew_Georgia @ 2.38



Eurogenes K13:


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.04
2 West_Med 23.51
3 North_Atlantic 15.98
4 West_Asian 13.92
5 Baltic 5.97
6 Red_Sea 5.56
7 South_Asian 1.39
8 Sub-Saharan 1.22
9 East_Asian 0.85
10 Northeast_African 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 2.12
2 East_Sicilian 3.95
3 Central_Greek 5.26
4 West_Sicilian 5.95
5 Ashkenazi 7.54
6 Italian_Abruzzo 7.59
7 Algerian_Jewish 7.61
8 Sephardic_Jewish 7.91
9 Italian_Jewish 8.2
10 Greek_Thessaly 11.44
11 Tunisian_Jewish 11.99
12 Libyan_Jewish 12.63
13 Tuscan 12.73
14 Cyprian 14.52
15 Lebanese_Muslim 18.32
16 North_Italian 18.95
17 Syrian 19.3
18 Turkish 20.22
19 Bulgarian 20.31
20 Samaritan 21.29

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.4% South_Italian + 5.6% Mozabite_Berber @ 1.59
2 94.6% South_Italian + 5.4% Moroccan @ 1.61
3 94.5% South_Italian + 5.5% Algerian @ 1.67
4 94.3% South_Italian + 5.7% Tunisian @ 1.67
5 98.6% South_Italian + 1.4% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 1.85
6 98.6% South_Italian + 1.4% Tibeto-Burman_Burmese @ 1.85
7 98.8% South_Italian + 1.2% Cambodian @ 1.85
8 98.8% South_Italian + 1.2% Malay @ 1.85
9 96.9% South_Italian + 3.1% Sardinian @ 1.89
10 99% South_Italian + 1% Vietnamese @ 1.89
11 99% South_Italian + 1% Dai @ 1.89
12 99% South_Italian + 1% Luhya @ 1.9
13 99% South_Italian + 1% Bantu_N.E. @ 1.9
14 99% South_Italian + 1% Lahu @ 1.9
15 99% South_Italian + 1% Biaka_Pygmy @ 1.9
16 99.1% South_Italian + 0.9% Bantu_S.E. @ 1.9
17 99.1% South_Italian + 0.9% Mandenka @ 1.9
18 99.1% South_Italian + 0.9% Bantu_S.W. @ 1.9
19 99.2% South_Italian + 0.8% Yoruban @ 1.9
20 99% South_Italian + 1% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 1.91


Dodecad K12b:


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.28
2 Atlantic_Med 28.9
3 Southwest_Asian 13.21
4 North_European 11.51
5 Gedrosia 6.83
6 Northwest_African 5.61
7 South_Asian 0.94
8 Southeast_Asian 0.84
9 East_African 0.69
10 Sub_Saharan 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.69
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.79
3 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 8.36
4 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 8.74
5 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 8.9
6 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 9
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 9.52
8 Greek (Dodecad) 11.67
9 O_Italian (Dodecad) 12.66
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.35
11 TSI30 (Metspalu) 14.05
12 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.64
13 Cypriots (Behar) 19.76
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 20.58
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.13
16 Lebanese (Behar) 22.33
17 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 23.6
18 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 24
19 Turks (Behar) 24.37
20 Syrians (Behar) 24.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 15.8% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.59
2 83.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 16.5% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.6
3 83.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 16.3% British (Dodecad) @ 1.6
4 84% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 16% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.6
5 84.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 15.8% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.6
6 84.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 15.6% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.66
7 83.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 16.7% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.76
8 83.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 16.5% English (Dodecad) @ 1.77
9 83.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 16.5% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.79
10 83.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 16.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.82
11 52.4% Druze (HGDP) + 47.6% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 1.88
12 58.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 41.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.98
13 80.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 19.2% French (HGDP) @ 2.01
14 82.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 17.3% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.03
15 83.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 16.7% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.03
16 52.3% Druze (HGDP) + 47.7% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 2.21
17 54.2% Druze (HGDP) + 45.8% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 2.4
18 52.2% Druze (HGDP) + 47.8% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 2.41
19 85.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 14.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.58
20 55.5% Druze (HGDP) + 44.5% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 2.9



HarappaWorld:


# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 32.43
2 Mediterranean 26.81
3 NE-Euro 15.32
4 SW-Asian 14.24
5 Baloch 7.2
6 SE-Asian 1.42
7 S-Indian 0.84
8 E-African 0.84
9 W-African 0.52
10 Pygmy 0.38

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 3.55
2 ashkenazi (harappa) 5.19
3 sephardic-jew (behar) 7.83
4 morocco-jew (behar) 8.56
5 tuscan (1000genomes) 11.65
6 tuscan (hgdp) 12.24
7 tuscan (hapmap) 12.82
8 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 16.52
9 cypriot (behar) 18.84
10 italian (hgdp) 20.15
11 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 20.96
12 lebanese (behar) 21.19
13 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 21.81
14 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 21.83
15 romanian-a (behar) 21.89
16 turk (behar) 23.37
17 syrian (behar) 23.75
18 turkish (harappa) 23.77
19 lebanese-muslim (haber) 23.97
20 palestinian (harappa) 24.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.2% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 7.8% sardinian (hgdp) @ 1.99
2 84.9% sephardic-jew (behar) + 15.1% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 2.03
3 82.2% sephardic-jew (behar) + 17.8% french (hgdp) @ 2.05
4 85.3% sephardic-jew (behar) + 14.7% british (1000genomes) @ 2.08
5 94.1% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 5.9% basque (hgdp) @ 2.09
6 94% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 6% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 2.12
7 85% sephardic-jew (behar) + 15% n-european (xing) @ 2.14
8 65.6% tuscan (hapmap) + 34.4% jordanian (behar) @ 2.16
9 86.1% sephardic-jew (behar) + 13.9% orcadian (hgdp) @ 2.18
10 53.8% lebanese-christian (haber) + 46.2% spaniard (behar) @ 2.24
11 62.6% tuscan (hapmap) + 37.4% lebanese (behar) @ 2.32
12 60.4% sephardic-jew (behar) + 39.6% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 2.33
13 92.1% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 7.9% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 2.34
14 67% tuscan (hapmap) + 33% palestinian (hgdp) @ 2.35
15 67.9% tuscan (1000genomes) + 32.1% jordanian (behar) @ 2.38
16 54.2% lebanese-christian (haber) + 45.8% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 2.4
17 51.3% italian (hgdp) + 48.7% lebanese (behar) @ 2.41
18 82.9% sephardic-jew (behar) + 17.1% hungarian (behar) @ 2.46
19 53.9% lebanese-druze (haber) + 46.1% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 2.5
20 94.6% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 5.4% tunisia (henn2012) @ 2.5



PuntDNA-L K13:


# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 39.28
2 West_Asia 24.5
3 SW_Asia 16.56
4 NE_Europe 13.38
5 South_Asia 2.24
6 West_Africa 1.63
7 SE_Asia 1.51
8 Siberia 0.59
9 East_Africa 0.31

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Sicilian 3.58
2 Ashkenazy_Jew 4.54
3 Sephardic_Jew 5.2
4 Italian_Abruzzo 8.44
5 Greek_Central 9.47
6 Cypriot 12.22
7 Greek_Thessaly 13.93
8 Albanian 14.5
9 Turkish 14.85
10 Italian_Tuscan 15.63
11 Kosovar 15.91
12 Turkish_Kayseri 16.8
13 Syrian 17.32
14 Lebanese_Christian 17.43
15 Lebanese_Druze 17.98
16 Turkish_Aydin 18.1
17 Lebanese_Muslim 18.83
18 Jordanian 19
19 Bulgarian 20.58
20 Macedonian 20.99

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.1% Italian_Sicilian + 2.9% Mawasi @ 2.84
2 97.5% Italian_Sicilian + 2.5% Paniya @ 2.96
3 97.4% Italian_Sicilian + 2.6% Pulliyar @ 2.97
4 97.1% Italian_Sicilian + 2.9% Gond @ 2.97
5 97.3% Italian_Sicilian + 2.7% North_Kannadi @ 3
6 97.2% Italian_Sicilian + 2.8% Chenchus @ 3.01
7 97.4% Italian_Sicilian + 2.6% Hakkipikki @ 3.02
8 97.4% Italian_Sicilian + 2.6% Sakilli @ 3.02
9 97.5% Italian_Sicilian + 2.5% Malayan @ 3.03
10 97.3% Italian_Sicilian + 2.7% Piramalai_Kallars @ 3.04
11 97.4% Italian_Sicilian + 2.6% Cambodian @ 3.04
12 97.2% Italian_Sicilian + 2.8% Tamil_Nadu_Caste @ 3.04
13 97.8% Italian_Sicilian + 2.2% Murut @ 3.05
14 97.3% Italian_Sicilian + 2.7% Kurumba @ 3.06
15 97.7% Italian_Sicilian + 2.3% Visayan @ 3.06
16 97.8% Italian_Sicilian + 2.2% Dusun @ 3.06
17 98.2% Italian_Sicilian + 1.8% Igorot @ 3.08
18 97.3% Italian_Sicilian + 2.7% Velamas @ 3.08
19 97.8% Italian_Sicilian + 2.2% Filipino @ 3.1
20 97.9% Italian_Sicilian + 2.1% Luzon @ 3.1

catgeorge
07-05-2018, 11:10 PM
That's an eastern Greek from Asia Minor ex Seleukian

Sikeliot
07-05-2018, 11:33 PM
That's an eastern Greek from Asia Minor ex Seleukian

What makes you say this? Just wondering.

kleenex
07-05-2018, 11:34 PM
Cretan possibly or East Aegean Islander.

Kivan
07-05-2018, 11:37 PM
Crete.

Sikeliot
07-05-2018, 11:37 PM
Crete.



Cretan possibly or East Aegean Islander.


Explain?

Kivan
07-05-2018, 11:40 PM
Explain?

I'm just guessing. Many Cretan samples i have seen had similar results(half SE and half Levant, for example).

kleenex
07-05-2018, 11:41 PM
Explain?

Higher North African.

catgeorge
07-05-2018, 11:42 PM
What makes you say this? Just wondering.

This person originates from around here

https://i.imgur.com/MdIaKV2.png

Sikeliot
07-05-2018, 11:44 PM
This is so interesting! Let's keep the guesses coming :)

wvwvw
07-05-2018, 11:50 PM
Cretan possibly or East Aegean Islander.

What makes you think that? I don’t see Greek in any of his oracles.

wvwvw
07-05-2018, 11:52 PM
This is so interesting! Let's keep the guesses coming :)

Why you put Greece as an option when this person gets 99% Southern Italian, I don’t get it :confused:

DarknessWin
07-06-2018, 12:25 AM
Sicilian

kleenex
07-06-2018, 12:26 AM
Why you put Greece as an option when this person gets 99% Southern Italian, I don’t get it :confused:

Greek Islanders, including Cretans, get Sicilians as their first population. It's their closest genetic match not their ancestry. Just like Ashkenazis getting Siclian as their closest population they're not genetically Italian but compare genetically (based on their genetic makeup; i.e., NE or NW Euro and Levantine) to Southern Italian populations.

Sikeliot
07-06-2018, 01:50 AM
Others?

Tauromachos
07-06-2018, 01:54 AM
Calabrian

Sikeliot
07-06-2018, 10:11 PM
Anyone else before I say?

Figaro
03-13-2023, 02:33 AM
Anyone else before I say?

He never said!