how to distinguish Arab from Berber ethnicity in Gedmatch tests?

[Congolese Rice]

Like, if you are 1/3 berber for example, what would you score in components in a test with no north african components in it?

for example: West med, east med, Red Sea, and SSA? is Berber "West Med" on gedmatch tests IF you are not mediterranean in ethnicity but you do score mediterranean? for example in my case i have this:


https://i.imgur.com/KqP5Oli.png


https://i.imgur.com/xBMHWQS.png


https://i.imgur.com/79cLbM3.png


And this is what Doug McDonald said:

"and THOSE ARE NOT RELIABLE! The “Mideast” on the chromosomes seems to actually be
either East coast Africa (Ethiopis) or north African.

I doubt if ANY systen current can do a really reliable job for you.


Doug McDonald"

"For your case its impossible to clearly tell east from north African.

Doug"

"Its just a difficult case. I am clearly seeing as East African what others see as North African.

These are related long ago my having Middle Eastern people mugrate both to
the Horn of Africa and along the southern Mediterranean coast.

I can’t clarify the results! either could be right"


and now for my gedmatch results, MyGenomeBox and YourDNAportal results.


==========


gedrosia K6 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 30.45
2 Natufian 27.76
3 Sub_Saharan 23.28
4 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 14.74
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.42
6 East_Asian 1.34


Finished reading population data. 136 populations found.
6 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Moroccan @ 19.881178
2 Algerian @ 20.177343
3 Saharawi @ 23.123322
4 GoyetQ116 @ 26.824112
5 Libyan @ 26.871412
6 Bulgarian @ 27.774874
7 Hungarian @ 27.984194
8 Ukrainian @ 28.123915
9 Croatian @ 28.133266
10 Romanian @ 28.206146
11 Russian @ 28.245659
12 Spanish @ 28.378586
13 Steppe_MLBA @ 28.516495
14 Czech @ 28.744583
15 Scottish @ 28.818592
16 Norwegian @ 28.908331
17 English @ 28.919888
18 French @ 28.978497
19 Finnish @ 29.012388
20 Europe_LNBA @ 29.401033

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +50% Somali @ 6.784506


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese +25% Mota +25% Motala12 @ 1.296267


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 BedouinA + Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iran_ChL @ 0.000000
2 BedouinA + Hadza + Iran_ChL + WHG @ 0.000000
3 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iranian_Mazandarani + Palestinian @ 0.000000
4 Hadza + Iranian_Mazandarani + Palestinian + WHG @ 0.000000
5 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Jordanian + Kurd_F @ 0.422032
6 Hadza + Jordanian + Kurd_F + WHG @ 0.422032
7 Armenia_ChL + BedouinA + Hadza + SHG @ 0.481609
8 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iranian_Shirazi + Palestinian @ 0.488010
9 Hadza + Iranian_Shirazi + Palestinian + WHG @ 0.488010
10 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iran_LN + Jordanian @ 0.575826
11 Hadza + Iran_LN + Jordanian + WHG @ 0.575826
12 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Jordanian + Kurd_C @ 0.598981
13 Hadza + Jordanian + Kurd_C + WHG @ 0.598981
14 Armenia_ChL + BedouinA + Hadza + Motala12 @ 0.673160
=====

Gedrosia K12 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 27.71
2 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 24.79
3 SUB_SAHARAN 23.56
4 CAUCASUS 8.63
5 SW_ASIAN 5.09
6 BALOCHI 3.96
7 E_AFRICAN 2.23
8 S_INDIAN 1.81
9 E_SIBERIAN 1.09


Finished reading population data. 87 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek @ 34.219196
2 Norwegian @ 36.381535
3 Sicilian @ 37.193859
4 Turks_Istanbul @ 40.075687
5 Russian @ 41.206917
6 Turkmen_Afghan @ 41.296894
7 Uzbek @ 41.709469
8 Turks_Aydin @ 41.990959
9 Turks_Balikesir @ 43.604202
10 Tajik_Pomiri @ 44.808521
11 Kurds_C @ 45.098789
12 Finnish @ 45.211155
13 Kurds_N @ 45.991249
14 Tajik_Afghan @ 46.464764
15 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 46.733707
16 Uzbek_Afghan @ 46.897259
17 Turks_Adana @ 47.049088
18 Kurds_F @ 47.279957
19 Estonian @ 48.021648
20 Kurds_E @ 48.111187

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +50% Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 27.064121


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +25% Turks_Istanbul +25% Yoruba @ 5.212138


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_F + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.167013
2 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_F + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.167013
3 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_F + Sardinian @ 4.181566
4 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_F + Sardinian @ 4.181566
5 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_C + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.418146

========


MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Subsaharian 25.41
2 NorthEastEuropean 18.99
3 Neolithic 17.47
4 Steppe 17.21
5 Caucasian 15.65
6 NearEast 2.54
7 Amerindian 1.29

====

MDLP World-22 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 31.24
2 Sub-Saharian 24.23
3 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 21.76
4 West-Asian 5.49
5 Near_East 4.65
6 North-European-Mesolithic 4.05
7 Samoedic 1.77
8 Indo-Iranian 1.67
9 South-America_Amerind 1.36
10 South-African 1.00

======

on some tests i score very high SW_asian, and on others with the mediterranean component i score very high Mediterranean_Neolithic. does that mean my "Arabian" is probably berber?


Now for my GenomeBox results, and mind you. I am 21% west african, check these results out:

See Earth and Admix Results

35.75%
Africa

15.43%
South
Europe

14.89%
West
Europe

12.36%
North
Europe

11.46%
East
Europe

3.74%
East
Asia

3.07%
South
America

2.23%
Asia

1.07%
North
America


^ i literally scored 35% African! to be exact you can just say 36% african. and only 2.23% Asia (arabia). 36-15 = 21%, so 15% berber, 2.23% Arab, = 17.23% MENA + 3.74% East asia (because i am not this asian, i am only 4% amerindian max) = 20.97% MENA. close enough i guess, only i dont think my South European is higher than my west european and north european. so there's probably some berber admix in my south european aswell.


now for my YourDNAportal results:


Population Percentage
Sub Saharan 25.68%
Oceanian 0.30%
Amerindian 2.27%
Euro Hunter Gatherer 42.32%
Siberian 0.26%
South East Asian 1.46%
Near Eastern 27.70%

^ very alike to my Gedrosia Ancient Eurasia K6 results, only a 00.06% difference in Near Eastern/Natufian. 25.68% African - 4.50% Berber = 21.18% West african.

4.50% + 27.70% = 32.20% = almost 1/3 Berber or Arab


what do you guys think?


Is berber Mediterranean on many tests, or a mix of red sea + west med? thanks for reading

[Congolese Rice]

anyone have a opinion about my ethnic breakdown? like am i still more arab than berber or am i more Berber. these are my africa9 results:

Africa9 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Europe 46.71
2 SW_Asia 21.84
3 W_Africa 21.07
4 NW_Africa 5.17
5 S_Africa 2.20
6 San 1.83
7 Biaka 1.18


Finished reading population data. 54 populations found.
9 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Morocco_Jews @ 27.378761
2 North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 31.523413
3 Tuscan @ 32.231964
4 North_Italian @ 34.155674
5 Druze @ 39.301552
6 Egypt @ 39.909996
7 Jordanians @ 40.360577
8 Egyptans @ 42.036186
9 Yemenese @ 44.171303
10 Libya @ 46.390274
11 North_African_Dodecad @ 47.745167
12 Algeria @ 53.506958
13 Bedouin @ 57.382694
14 Morocco_N @ 59.759953
15 French_Basque @ 60.481731
16 Yemen_Jews @ 62.802704
17 Moroccans @ 63.570690
18 Morocco_S @ 63.636944
19 Luhya @ 64.830467
20 Bantu_N.E. @ 65.287796

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Fulani +50% Tuscan @ 19.305805


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Morocco_Jews +25% North_Italian +25% Yoruba @ 5.560930


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Brong + French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.292991
2 French_Basque + Mandenka + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.523308
3 French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + Yoruba @ 2.658659
4 Brong + French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.698521
5 French_Basque + Igbo + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.975921
6 French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + Yoruba @ 2.985883
7 French_Basque + Mandenka + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 3.000863
8 Brong + French_Basque + Jordanians + Morocco_Jews @ 3.191340
9 French_Basque + Igbo + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 3.200177
10 Mandenka + Morocco_Jews + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 3.284655
11 French_Basque + Jordanians + Mandenka + Morocco_Jews @ 3.290316
12 Mandenka + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.294896
13 French_Basque + Hausa + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 3.328845
14 Mandenka + Morocco_Jews + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.338498
15 Brong + Morocco_Jews + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.393985

==========


EthioHelix Africa + French

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 French 58.53
2 West-Africa 20.48
3 North-Africa 14.17
4 Eastern-Bantu 2.94
5 Biaka-Pygmy 1.96


Finished reading population data. 59 populations found.
10 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 egypt @ 28.436947
2 egyptans @ 29.843468
3 libya @ 37.148422
4 french @ 48.514793
5 algeria @ 51.793137
6 morocco-n @ 53.296841
7 EtA @ 58.839912
8 EtT @ 59.205017
9 ethiopian-jews @ 59.574738
10 moroccans @ 59.989388
11 morocco-s @ 62.576019
12 EtT-P @ 63.774693
13 EtA-P @ 66.219421
14 EtO-P @ 67.785980
15 Afar @ 67.821465
16 fulani @ 67.871010
17 hema @ 69.191284
18 EtO @ 69.218773
19 fang @ 73.385963
20 sahara-occ @ 73.605812

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% french +50% fulani @ 10.784990


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% french +25% morocco-n +25% yoruba @ 2.858610


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 algeria + bambaran + french + french @ 1.866526
2 bambaran + french + french + morocco-n @ 1.937596
3 algeria + brong + french + french @ 2.001741
4 brong + french + french + morocco-n @ 2.077469
5 brong + french + french + moroccans @ 2.676510
6 algeria + french + french + yoruba @ 2.727184
7 algeria + french + french + yoruba @ 2.727184
8 french + french + morocco-n + yoruba @ 2.858610
9 french + french + morocco-n + yoruba @ 2.858610
10 bambaran + french + french + moroccans @ 2.894958

[Congolese Rice]

waddup my boiz? any opinions or wot. i just want to know real quick cuz then i'll just let this thread die, i want to know if i am either part berber or part arab lmao, dont feel like telling my family members and etc that we are part yemeni for example whilst that was far from the truth y'know wut im saying.


i value honesty over everything else so if you want to give your opinion do so.

[Gründig]

Glad to see Mortimer Jr is still living up to his name.

[Gangrel]

Yo post your eurogenes k13 for mw

[Congolese Rice]

Glad to see Mortimer Jr is still living up to his name.

yes ofcourse, i gotta keep the name alive yknow wut im saying


eitherway this isnt a taxonomy post so you shouldnt even be mad xd

[Congolese Rice]

Yo post your eurogenes k13 for mw

eurogenes k13 isnt very accurate for me at all, it gives me high oracle distances and lower mediterranean/arab, but idc ill post some of it anyway.


btw, do you happen to know why some tests are so bad with my ethnicity? i am 100% convinced of the fact that i am not 60%+ european, yet all tests give me different results. Even Doug McDonald said his test and DNA fits werent reliable for me at all XD now that's some serious shit right there.

West_Med 5.56
West_Asian 1.23
East_Med 4.28
Red_Sea 3.55
South_Asian 1.40
East_Asian 1.58
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.99
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.98
Sub-Saharan 24.56

=====

and for comparison here's my africa9:


Population
Europe 46.71
NW_Africa 5.17
SW_Asia 21.84
E_Africa -
S_Africa 2.20
Mbuti -
W_Africa 21.07
Biaka 1.18
San 1.83

idk, eurogenes is very weird for people with my ethnic breakdown.

[Gangrel]

Yep as I thought, your Arabic ancestry is negligible.

[Congolese Rice]

Yep as I thought, your Arabic ancestry is negligible.

??? do you mean i am more berber than arab or what xd most tests give me high mediterranean (15-21%) and around 3-5% near eastern and some other west asian percentages that are around 9-10% combined.

[Gangrel]

You have minimal of either, stop your OAD. Shit, I'm more arab than you lmao, I actually have Arabian mtdna subclade

[Alessio]

eurogenes k13 isnt very accurate for me at all, it gives me high oracle distances and lower mediterranean/arab, but idc ill post some of it anyway.


btw, do you happen to know why some tests are so bad with my ethnicity? i am 100% convinced of the fact that i am not 60%+ european, yet all tests give me different results. Even Doug McDonald said his test and DNA fits werent reliable for me at all XD now that's some serious shit right there.

West_Med 5.56
West_Asian 1.23
East_Med 4.28
Red_Sea 3.55
South_Asian 1.40
East_Asian 1.58
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.99
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.98
Sub-Saharan 24.56

=====

and for comparison here's my africa9:


Population
Europe 46.71
NW_Africa 5.17
SW_Asia 21.84
E_Africa -
S_Africa 2.20
Mbuti -
W_Africa 21.07
Biaka 1.18
San 1.83

idk, eurogenes is very weird for people with my ethnic breakdown.

XD

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 36.91
2 Sub-Saharan 24.56
3 Baltic 17.91
4 West_Med 5.56
5 East_Med 4.28
6 Red_Sea 3.55
7 Amerindian 1.99
8 East_Asian 1.58
9 South_Asian 1.4
10 West_Asian 1.23
11 Northeast_African 0.98
12 Siberian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 30.7
2 South_Dutch 31.02
3 North_German 31.44
4 French 31.82
5 Austrian 31.96
6 Danish 32.03
7 Southeast_English 32.18
8 North_Dutch 32.19
9 Swedish 32.24
10 Orcadian 32.24
11 East_German 32.32
12 Irish 32.66
13 Southwest_English 32.68
14 Hungarian 32.7
15 West_Scottish 32.8
16 Norwegian 32.82
17 North_Swedish 33.67
18 Spanish_Galicia 33.86
19 Portuguese 34
20 Serbian 34.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.3% Danish + 27.7% Mandenka @ 5.36
2 72.2% North_Dutch + 27.8% Mandenka @ 5.43
3 73.7% Danish + 26.3% Yoruban @ 5.45
4 73.7% North_Dutch + 26.3% Yoruban @ 5.58
5 71.8% Norwegian + 28.2% Mandenka @ 5.79
6 72.2% Orcadian + 27.8% Mandenka @ 5.81
7 73.7% Orcadian + 26.3% Yoruban @ 5.98
8 71.8% West_Scottish + 28.2% Mandenka @ 6.01
9 74.2% North_German + 25.8% Yoruban @ 6.06
10 73.3% Norwegian + 26.7% Yoruban @ 6.09
11 72.7% North_German + 27.3% Mandenka @ 6.11
12 72.3% Southeast_English + 27.7% Mandenka @ 6.12
13 71.9% Irish + 28.1% Mandenka @ 6.15
14 73.7% Southeast_English + 26.3% Yoruban @ 6.19
15 71.6% North_Dutch + 28.4% Bantu_S.W. @ 6.23
16 71.8% Danish + 28.2% Bantu_S.W. @ 6.25
17 73.3% West_Scottish + 26.7% Yoruban @ 6.26
18 73.4% Irish + 26.6% Yoruban @ 6.36
19 71.3% Norwegian + 28.7% Bantu_S.W. @ 6.51
20 71.3% North_Dutch + 28.7% Bantu_S.E. @ 6.54

[Congolese Rice]

You have minimal of either, stop your OAD. Shit, I'm more arab than you lmao, I actually have Arabian mtdna subclade


lmao, nah i dont. after having picked up my research again i realized i might not be arab but berber is still definitely a possibility xd doug mcdonald said so, take a look at my chromosome paintings yourself why would i lie about what i am lmao.

[Gangrel]

Smh...

[Congolese Rice]

XD

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 36.91
2 Sub-Saharan 24.56
3 Baltic 17.91
4 West_Med 5.56
5 East_Med 4.28
6 Red_Sea 3.55
7 Amerindian 1.99
8 East_Asian 1.58
9 South_Asian 1.4
10 West_Asian 1.23
11 Northeast_African 0.98
12 Siberian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 30.7
2 South_Dutch 31.02
3 North_German 31.44
4 French 31.82
5 Austrian 31.96
6 Danish 32.03
7 Southeast_English 32.18
8 North_Dutch 32.19
9 Swedish 32.24
10 Orcadian 32.24
11 East_German 32.32
12 Irish 32.66
13 Southwest_English 32.68
14 Hungarian 32.7
15 West_Scottish 32.8
16 Norwegian 32.82
17 North_Swedish 33.67
18 Spanish_Galicia 33.86
19 Portuguese 34
20 Serbian 34.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.3% Danish + 27.7% Mandenka @ 5.36
2 72.2% North_Dutch + 27.8% Mandenka @ 5.43
3 73.7% Danish + 26.3% Yoruban @ 5.45
4 73.7% North_Dutch + 26.3% Yoruban @ 5.58
5 71.8% Norwegian + 28.2% Mandenka @ 5.79
6 72.2% Orcadian + 27.8% Mandenka @ 5.81
7 73.7% Orcadian + 26.3% Yoruban @ 5.98
8 71.8% West_Scottish + 28.2% Mandenka @ 6.01
9 74.2% North_German + 25.8% Yoruban @ 6.06
10 73.3% Norwegian + 26.7% Yoruban @ 6.09
11 72.7% North_German + 27.3% Mandenka @ 6.11
12 72.3% Southeast_English + 27.7% Mandenka @ 6.12
13 71.9% Irish + 28.1% Mandenka @ 6.15
14 73.7% Southeast_English + 26.3% Yoruban @ 6.19
15 71.6% North_Dutch + 28.4% Bantu_S.W. @ 6.23
16 71.8% Danish + 28.2% Bantu_S.W. @ 6.25
17 73.3% West_Scottish + 26.7% Yoruban @ 6.26
18 73.4% Irish + 26.6% Yoruban @ 6.36
19 71.3% Norwegian + 28.7% Bantu_S.W. @ 6.51
20 71.3% North_Dutch + 28.7% Bantu_S.E. @ 6.54


yeh, those are my population approx. for the test yeah, watsup with it xd you see the oracle distances urself, mixed mode isnt accurate at all for me i am too mixed for that. the 4th population approx gives me a oracle of 7 on almost every approx lmao

[Congolese Rice]

Smh...

lmao k, whatever son.


what can i do about it that some tests arent good for my ethnic breakdown. SMH indeed, people see one test where my european admix is higher and immediately i get shit like this

fucking retards on some real shit

[Gangrel]

lmao k, whatever son.


what can i do about it that some tests arent good for my ethnic breakdown. SMH indeed, people see one test where my european admix is higher and immediately i get shit like this

fucking retards on some real shit

Are you on speed or dumb as fuck? You are genetically modeled as quadroon, get over your obsession.

[Congolese Rice]

Are you on speed or dumb as fuck? You are genetically modeled as quadroon, get over your obsession.

bitch shut yo ass up, YOU are dumb as fuck, plenty of tests show me to have 42% to 55% european, boohoo eurogenes K13 shows me to have 60%+ european, big deal. shut your fucking mouth boy retarded ass niggas on this forum man

[Gangrel]

bitch shut yo ass up, YOU are dumb as fuck, plenty of tests show me to have 42% to 55% european, boohoo eurogenes K13 shows me to have 60%+ european, big deal. shut your fucking mouth boy retarded ass niggas on this forum man

Loooooool stfu White boi

[rein]

XD

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 36.91
2 Sub-Saharan 24.56
3 Baltic 17.91
4 West_Med 5.56
5 East_Med 4.28
6 Red_Sea 3.55
7 Amerindian 1.99
8 East_Asian 1.58
9 South_Asian 1.4
10 West_Asian 1.23
11 Northeast_African 0.98
12 Siberian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 30.7
2 South_Dutch 31.02
3 North_German 31.44
4 French 31.82
5 Austrian 31.96
6 Danish 32.03
7 Southeast_English 32.18
8 North_Dutch 32.19
9 Swedish 32.24
10 Orcadian 32.24
11 East_German 32.32
12 Irish 32.66
13 Southwest_English 32.68
14 Hungarian 32.7
15 West_Scottish 32.8
16 Norwegian 32.82
17 North_Swedish 33.67
18 Spanish_Galicia 33.86
19 Portuguese 34
20 Serbian 34.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.3% Danish + 27.7% Mandenka @ 5.36
2 72.2% North_Dutch + 27.8% Mandenka @ 5.43
3 73.7% Danish + 26.3% Yoruban @ 5.45
4 73.7% North_Dutch + 26.3% Yoruban @ 5.58
5 71.8% Norwegian + 28.2% Mandenka @ 5.79
6 72.2% Orcadian + 27.8% Mandenka @ 5.81
7 73.7% Orcadian + 26.3% Yoruban @ 5.98
8 71.8% West_Scottish + 28.2% Mandenka @ 6.01
9 74.2% North_German + 25.8% Yoruban @ 6.06
10 73.3% Norwegian + 26.7% Yoruban @ 6.09
11 72.7% North_German + 27.3% Mandenka @ 6.11
12 72.3% Southeast_English + 27.7% Mandenka @ 6.12
13 71.9% Irish + 28.1% Mandenka @ 6.15
14 73.7% Southeast_English + 26.3% Yoruban @ 6.19
15 71.6% North_Dutch + 28.4% Bantu_S.W. @ 6.23
16 71.8% Danish + 28.2% Bantu_S.W. @ 6.25
17 73.3% West_Scottish + 26.7% Yoruban @ 6.26
18 73.4% Irish + 26.6% Yoruban @ 6.36
19 71.3% Norwegian + 28.7% Bantu_S.W. @ 6.51
20 71.3% North_Dutch + 28.7% Bantu_S.E. @ 6.54

I win.
Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.01
2 East_Med 23.22
3 North_Atlantic 16.19
4 West_Asian 11.17
5 West_Med 10.3
6 Red_Sea 6.86
7 Siberian 2.58
8 South_Asian 1.82
9 Sub-Saharan 1.17
10 Northeast_African 0.96
11 Amerindian 0.83
12 Oceanian 0.72
13 East_Asian 0.17

[Congolese Rice]

here, for the little retard turk and dutch boy:


Population
Europe 46.71
NW_Africa 5.17
SW_Asia 21.84
E_Africa -
S_Africa 2.20
Mbuti -
W_Africa 21.07
Biaka 1.18
San 1.83
====

Population
Amerindian 2.22
East_Asian 1.05
African 25.69
Atlantic_Baltic 51.00
Australasian -
Siberian 0.38
Caucasus_Gedrosia 8.60
Southern 9.89
South_Asian 1.17

========

Gedrosia K12 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 27.71
2 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 24.79
3 SUB_SAHARAN 23.56
4 CAUCASUS 8.63
5 SW_ASIAN 5.09
6 BALOCHI 3.96
7 E_AFRICAN 2.23
8 S_INDIAN 1.81
9 E_SIBERIAN 1.09


Finished reading population data. 87 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek @ 34.219196
2 Norwegian @ 36.381535
3 Sicilian @ 37.193859
4 Turks_Istanbul @ 40.075687
5 Russian @ 41.206917
6 Turkmen_Afghan @ 41.296894
7 Uzbek @ 41.709469
8 Turks_Aydin @ 41.990959
9 Turks_Balikesir @ 43.604202
10 Tajik_Pomiri @ 44.808521
11 Kurds_C @ 45.098789
12 Finnish @ 45.211155
13 Kurds_N @ 45.991249
14 Tajik_Afghan @ 46.464764
15 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 46.733707
16 Uzbek_Afghan @ 46.897259
17 Turks_Adana @ 47.049088
18 Kurds_F @ 47.279957
19 Estonian @ 48.021648
20 Kurds_E @ 48.111187

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +50% Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 27.064121


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +25% Turks_Istanbul +25% Yoruba @ 5.212138



^ go learn how to wipe your asses, fucking retarded niggas.

[Congolese Rice]

I win.
Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.01
2 East_Med 23.22
3 North_Atlantic 16.19
4 West_Asian 11.17
5 West_Med 10.3
6 Red_Sea 6.86
7 Siberian 2.58
8 South_Asian 1.82
9 Sub-Saharan 1.17
10 Northeast_African 0.96
11 Amerindian 0.83
12 Oceanian 0.72
13 East_Asian 0.17



yeh, u do on the eurogenes k13 test yeah. you are definitely more arab than i am i realized lmao. it aint a big deal to me, i am more berber than arab so what lmao i dont care. that renders me half african half european, you win nigga xd

[Gangrel]

You talk a lot of shit for a midget, white boi

[Babak]

Since when did you two start beefing with each other lmao

[Congolese Rice]

You talk a lot of shit for a midget, white boi

lmao, i aint a white boi thats where your wrong my friend xd 1 test shows me to have more european i am suddenly a "white boi" shut your bitch ass up son. you wouldn't even do shit if you were to meet me irl, weak ass turk. Ive beaten up many of you little faggots, all you do is cry and call your 2000 cousins and brothers xd bitch nigga

[Alessio]

I win.
Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.01
2 East_Med 23.22
3 North_Atlantic 16.19
4 West_Asian 11.17
5 West_Med 10.3
6 Red_Sea 6.86
7 Siberian 2.58
8 South_Asian 1.82
9 Sub-Saharan 1.17
10 Northeast_African 0.96
11 Amerindian 0.83
12 Oceanian 0.72
13 East_Asian 0.17

I posted the OP's results.

[Gangrel]

here, for the little retard turk and dutch boy:


Population
Europe 46.71
NW_Africa 5.17
SW_Asia 21.84
E_Africa -
S_Africa 2.20
Mbuti -
W_Africa 21.07
Biaka 1.18
San 1.83
====

Population
Amerindian 2.22
East_Asian 1.05
African 25.69
Atlantic_Baltic 51.00
Australasian -
Siberian 0.38
Caucasus_Gedrosia 8.60
Southern 9.89
South_Asian 1.17

========

Gedrosia K12 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 27.71
2 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 24.79
3 SUB_SAHARAN 23.56
4 CAUCASUS 8.63
5 SW_ASIAN 5.09
6 BALOCHI 3.96
7 E_AFRICAN 2.23
8 S_INDIAN 1.81
9 E_SIBERIAN 1.09


Finished reading population data. 87 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek @ 34.219196
2 Norwegian @ 36.381535
3 Sicilian @ 37.193859
4 Turks_Istanbul @ 40.075687
5 Russian @ 41.206917
6 Turkmen_Afghan @ 41.296894
7 Uzbek @ 41.709469
8 Turks_Aydin @ 41.990959
9 Turks_Balikesir @ 43.604202
10 Tajik_Pomiri @ 44.808521
11 Kurds_C @ 45.098789
12 Finnish @ 45.211155
13 Kurds_N @ 45.991249
14 Tajik_Afghan @ 46.464764
15 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 46.733707
16 Uzbek_Afghan @ 46.897259
17 Turks_Adana @ 47.049088
18 Kurds_F @ 47.279957
19 Estonian @ 48.021648
20 Kurds_E @ 48.111187

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +50% Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 27.064121


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +25% Turks_Istanbul +25% Yoruba @ 5.212138



^ go learn how to wipe your asses, fucking retarded niggas.


lmao, i aint a white boi thats where your wrong my friend xd 1 test shows me to have more european i am suddenly a "white boi" shut your bitch ass up son. you wouldn't even do shit if you were to meet me irl, weak ass turk. Ive beaten up many of you little faggots, all you do is cry and call your 2000 cousins and brothers xd bitch nigga

You are 5'9 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Congolese Rice]

Since when did you two start beefing with each other lmao

since he's a faggot lmao, recently i have beef with more people cause more people are starting to talk bullshit. what people dont realize is that i dont give a single fuck about any nigga on this forum, i score higher european on a fucking EUROGENES test, a test that is specifically designed for fucking europeans, and they go off at me calling me a white boy


i am still half european, 1/3 berber, and 1/4 SSA. nothing has changed to me, they are just being bitches about it.

[Alessio]

here, for the little retard turk and dutch boy:


Population
Europe 46.71
NW_Africa 5.17
SW_Asia 21.84
E_Africa -
S_Africa 2.20
Mbuti -
W_Africa 21.07
Biaka 1.18
San 1.83
====

Population
Amerindian 2.22
East_Asian 1.05
African 25.69
Atlantic_Baltic 51.00
Australasian -
Siberian 0.38
Caucasus_Gedrosia 8.60
Southern 9.89
South_Asian 1.17

========

Gedrosia K12 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 27.71
2 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 24.79
3 SUB_SAHARAN 23.56
4 CAUCASUS 8.63
5 SW_ASIAN 5.09
6 BALOCHI 3.96
7 E_AFRICAN 2.23
8 S_INDIAN 1.81
9 E_SIBERIAN 1.09


Finished reading population data. 87 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek @ 34.219196
2 Norwegian @ 36.381535
3 Sicilian @ 37.193859
4 Turks_Istanbul @ 40.075687
5 Russian @ 41.206917
6 Turkmen_Afghan @ 41.296894
7 Uzbek @ 41.709469
8 Turks_Aydin @ 41.990959
9 Turks_Balikesir @ 43.604202
10 Tajik_Pomiri @ 44.808521
11 Kurds_C @ 45.098789
12 Finnish @ 45.211155
13 Kurds_N @ 45.991249
14 Tajik_Afghan @ 46.464764
15 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 46.733707
16 Uzbek_Afghan @ 46.897259
17 Turks_Adana @ 47.049088
18 Kurds_F @ 47.279957
19 Estonian @ 48.021648
20 Kurds_E @ 48.111187

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +50% Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 27.064121


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +25% Turks_Istanbul +25% Yoruba @ 5.212138



^ go learn how to wipe your asses, fucking retarded niggas.

You're more Dutch than I am :p

[Congolese Rice]

You are 5'9 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

and? as ive said before height has nothing to do with the person's strength and skill. boy i'd dare you to provoke me if we met irl, id whoop your fucking ass on some real shit xd you're just a turk you cant fight. bitch boy

[Congolese Rice]

You're more Dutch than I am :p

yes totally, i am 80% dutch beat that

[Gangrel]

and? as ive said before height has nothing to do with the person's strength and skill. boy i'd dare you to provoke me if we met irl, id whoop your fucking ass on some real shit xd you're just a turk you cant fight. bitch boy

My fart would knock you out you 57kg faggot

[Congolese Rice]

My fart would knock you out you 57kg faggot

try it then little bitch i dare you xd i'd love to see your ass get knocked to the ground and crying. i've beaten up plenty of people older than me who thought i was just a little midget mexican looking boy, proved them all wrong. try me bitch, i've been fighting since i was 6 years old you cant even compete with me fucking mama boy little turk bitch xd


tabon yemek sharmoota

[Alessio]

yes totally, i am 80% dutch beat that

That's the first little truth that came out of your mouth today.

[Gangrel]

try it then little bitch i dare you xd i'd love to see your ass get knocked to the ground and crying. i've beaten up plenty of people older than me who thought i was just a little midget mexican looking boy, proved them all wrong. try me bitch, i've been fighting since i was 6 years old you cant even compete with me fucking mama boy little turk bitch xd


tabon yemek sharmoota

I'll fuck you till you love me faggot

[Babak]

try it then little bitch i dare you xd i'd love to see your ass get knocked to the ground and crying. i've beaten up plenty of people older than me who thought i was just a little midget mexican looking boy, proved them all wrong. try me bitch, i've been fighting since i was 6 years old you cant even compete with me fucking mama boy little turk bitch xd


tabon yemek sharmoota

lol sounds like a angry rap song

[Congolese Rice]

That's the first little truth that came out of your mouth today.

yes you are right. i am 100% dutch even, try to beat me son i bet you wont



fucking retard dutch boy xDDD you and that turk are chanceless in life. if you cant understand that i am half european then i dont know what you do understand, probably only how to sit and stand up, dont even know how to wipe your ass little faggot boy xD

[Gründig]

Why do you say "xd" so much?

Are You really making that face every time?

[Congolese Rice]

I'll fuck you till you love me faggot

oh are you gay now? i thought being gay was haram, go fuck yourself howabout that. bet no bitch has ever come close to your dick before, explains your bitter salty attitude xD meanwhile im showering in pussy, go get a life motherfucker

[Gründig]

try it then little bitch i dare you xd i'd love to see your ass get knocked to the ground and crying. i've beaten up plenty of people older than me who thought i was just a little midget mexican looking boy, proved them all wrong. try me bitch, i've been fighting since i was 6 years old you cant even compete with me fucking mama boy little turk bitch xd


tabon yemek sharmoota

You're so mad LOL

[Gangrel]

oh are you gay now? i thought being gay was haram, go fuck yourself howabout that. bet no bitch has ever come close to your dick before, explains your bitter salty attitude xD meanwhile im showering in pussy, go get a life motherfucker

You are definitely gay damn

[Congolese Rice]

Why do you say "xd" so much?

Are You really making that face every time?

is it a problem to you? if so go fuck yourself and fuck off i dont give a single shit about anyone in this forum, yall internet addicted little retards with no life go find yourself a job

[Gründig]

is it a problem to you? if so go fuck yourself and fuck off i dont give a single shit about anyone in this forum, yall internet addicted little retards with no life go find yourself a job

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

xd xd xd xd xd

[Congolese Rice]

You're so mad LOL

lmao, im not mad.

2-3 people are going off at me, expect me to fucking swear at your ass, you bitches have nothing better to do than troll a 17 year old making a deadass post. Yknow i dont mind, i love trolling people myself but yall should know when to stfu and when enough is enough xd yall aint funny. think yall comedians go fuck yourself

[Congolese Rice]

You are definitely gay damn

you say you'd fuck me till i love you, and you call me gay xD you turks really are inbred retarded faggots. your logic is completely opposite. if you want to fuck me i am gay? go fuck yourself gay little faggot boy i aint want nothing 2 do with yo ass, get the fuck away from me nigga xD

[Gangrel]

you say you'd fuck me till i love you, and you call me gay xD you turks really are inbred retarded faggots. your logic is completely opposite. if you want to fuck me i am gay? go fuck yourself gay little faggot boy i aint want nothing 2 do with yo ass, get the fuck away from me nigga xD

Bruh y u so mad

[Congolese Rice]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

xd xd xd xd xd

oh oh so funny xd nigga get the fuq off my thread boy, thinking you's some sort of comedian ass nigga. damn son, all of you are completely chanceless in life i swear to god XDDD that's the funny part about this.


trust me karma will come and bite yall in the ass, i will always have the last laugh dont worry about me.

[Gründig]

you say you'd fuck me till i love you, and you call me gay xD you turks really are inbred retarded faggots. your logic is completely opposite. if you want to fuck me i am gay? go fuck yourself gay little faggot boy i aint want nothing 2 do with yo ass, get the fuck away from me nigga xD

Why are you so mad?

[Alessio]

you say you'd fuck me till i love you, and you call me gay xD you turks really are inbred retarded faggots. your logic is completely opposite. if you want to fuck me i am gay? go fuck yourself gay little faggot boy i aint want nothing 2 do with yo ass, get the fuck away from me nigga xD

xD
xD
xD
xD

[Congolese Rice]

Why are you so mad?

i aint mad son. you people are annoying as FUCK.

3 people are going off at me, what am i gonna do? i will insult your ass. if you were infront of me i'd beaten you niggas into a coma already but you aint, so thank the lord for that.

praise your allah, jesus, god whatever the fuck you believe in. i dont let people disrespect me never. i take 0% disrespect from little geeky bitches like you, so if you disrespect me you gone see. you'll end up like the rest who tried to fuck around with me IRL. trust me i am way more loco than you think i am

[Gangrel]

Making inbred jokes when he wants to be Arab :clap:

[Congolese Rice]

Making inbred jokes when he wants to be Arab :clap:

never said i wanted to be arab. i THOUGHT i was arab, seems i am not. whats the big deal? you seem like a retarded mothafucka to me, besides what does inbred have to do with arabs? says more about you then me.

[Gangrel]

never said i wanted to be arab. i THOUGHT i was arab, seems i am not. whats the big deal? you seem like a retarded mothafucka to me, besides what does inbred have to do with arabs? says more about you then me.

Xdddddddddddddddddd fucking cancer

[Congolese Rice]

Bruh y u so mad

also bitch gtfo of my thread pls, you two are getting annoying as fuck. dont bother talking to me or commenting on my threads i aint gon talk to bitches like you 2.

saying i am 70% european. foh, retard ass nigga. dumb bitch.

[Gangrel]

I'm dying loooooooool

[Gründig]

i aint mad son. you people are annoying as FUCK.

3 people are going off at me, what am i gonna do? i will insult your ass. if you were infront of me i'd beaten you niggas into a coma already but you aint, so thank the lord for that.

praise your allah, jesus, god whatever the fuck you believe in. i dont let people disrespect me never. i take 0% disrespect from little geeky bitches like you, so if you disrespect me you gone see. you'll end up like the rest who tried to fuck around with me IRL. trust me i am way more loco than you think i am

Oh stop with the internet tough guy crap.

You wouldn't have "beaten you niggas into a coma already". You sound like an idiot.

[rein]

Making inbred jokes when he wants to be Arab :clap:

Ouch!

[Congolese Rice]

Xdddddddddddddddddd fucking cancer

yeah, thats what i'd define you, that dutch gay boy, and the retarded germanic faggot. you could make the "Faggot trio's" because thats exactly what you are


XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[Gangrel]

Ouch!

Sorry B, sad truf tho

[Congolese Rice]

Ouch!

lmao, aight fuck yall niggas im out. all of yall think your comedians all out of the sudden i aint up for this bullshit.

thalla niggas

[Gangrel]

Stop saying nigga fuckin white boi

[Congolese Rice]

Stop saying nigga fuckin white boi

sorry, what was that? retarded weeb ass nigga. go watch yourself some naruto xD

[Gründig]

lmao, aight fuck yall niggas im out. all of yall think your comedians all out of the sudden i aint up for this bullshit.

thalla niggas

I would just like to know why you're so mad....

[Alessio]

yeah, thats what i'd define you, that dutch gay boy, and the retarded germanic faggot. you could make the "Faggot trio's" because thats exactly what you are


XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

You're technically more Dutch than I am, so stop making false claims. I bet we both have a Dutch passport, only you also have a genetic passport ingrained in your DNA which makes you more Germanic thus more ''at place'' than I am.

[Lauχum]

You might find these useful considering this discussion of "Berber ancestry":

Guanche (Indigenous Canary Islanders) GEDmatch kits:
UA6666190
RS8302292


IAM (Neolithic Nth African) GEDmatch kit:
DX6002255

KEB (Neolithic Nth African heavily mixed with European Farmers) GEDmatch kit:
PR8550657

[Congolese Rice]

I would just like to know why you're so mad....

1st of all im not mad, i am annoyed.

and please, allow me to explain.


that bitch nigga of a turk asked me for my k13 eurogenes results, i told him prior that my eurogenes and puntdnal results are least accurate for me.

i post results

people start calling me a "wanna-be arab" and white boy, whilst i am goddamn 50%, 50 fucking % european. it's annoying as hell if people constantly bombard me with "white boy" "wanna-be arab" "obsession boy" whatever the fuck they say.


i am not obsessed with anything, i was just mistaken and i thought i was arab because i scored high near eastern/natufian on many tests, i am 1/3 berber, wow big deal. now i am suddenly a "dutch white boy" and they think it's super funny XD


i started this post just to get serious awsners not this type of shit, i am not in the mood for jokes like that

[Gangrel]

You are modelled three quarters Dutch LOL

[Congolese Rice]

You're technically more Dutch than I am, so stop making false claims. I bet we both have a Dutch passport, only you also have a genetic passport which makes you more Germanic than I am.

technically i am LESS dutch than you are because i am.

if i am dutch i'll only be 6% of it or even less. German = not dutch, my father = not dutch, my mom's family = 12.5% dutch, rest african, berber, amerindian, and some hispanic or sephardic jewish.

i am NOT dutch. and fun fact, you are 80%+ european and half of that is dutch, which mst definitely makes you the superior germanic here, dont be a stupid hoe lmao i am only 50% european, i cant be more germanic than you are.

[Gründig]

1st of all im not mad, i am annoyed.

and please, allow me to explain.


that bitch nigga of a turk asked me for my k13 eurogenes results, i told him prior that my eurogenes and puntdnal results are least accurate for me.

i post results

people start calling me a "wanna-be arab" and white boy, whilst i am goddamn 50%, 50 fucking % european. it's annoying as hell if people constantly bombard me with "white boy" "wanna-be arab" "obsession boy" whatever the fuck they say.


i am not obsessed with anything, i was just mistaken and i thought i was arab because i scored high near eastern/natufian on many tests, i am 1/3 berber, wow big deal. now i am suddenly a "dutch white boy" and they think it's super funny XD


i started this post just to get serious awsners not this type of shit, i am not in the mood for jokes like that

Well my little wanna-be Arab boy, you sound angry to me xd xd xd xd xd

[Congolese Rice]

You are modelled three quarters Dutch LOL

yes no shit, because my middle eastern gets counted up by my european because it only divides TWO components, not THREE. if mixed mode gave you 3 populations you'd see that i am most definitely half european xd im not even gonna argue with you retards it is no use.

at this point yall are just trolling me i dont even care what you say anymore lmao

[happycow]

You have minimal of either, stop your OAD. Shit, I'm more arab than you lmao, I actually have Arabian mtdna subclade

LOOOOOL @ OAD

hahaha :D

[Babak]

Ayyyyyyyyyy

[Gangrel]

yes no shit, because my middle eastern gets counted up by my european because it only divides TWO components, not THREE. if mixed mode gave you 3 populations you'd see that i am most definitely half european xd im not even gonna argue with you retards it is no use.

at this point yall are just trolling me i dont even care what you say anymore lmao

Are you dumb?

[Congolese Rice]

Well my little wanna-be Arab boy, you sound angry to me xd xd xd xd xd

wElL mY lItTlE wAnNa-Be ArAb BoY, yOu SoUnD aNgRy To Me


xddddd

ok whatever son, bye white boy xd i dont even care what you say. weak attempts at trolling me.


if you wanna troll me atleast try to do it better lmao, adios faggitos

[Alessio]

technically i am LESS dutch than you are because i am.

if i am dutch i'll only be 6% of it or even less. German = not dutch, my father = not dutch, my mom's family = 12.5% dutch, rest african, berber, amerindian, and some hispanic or sephardic jewish.

i am NOT dutch. and fun fact, you are 80%+ european and half of that is dutch, which mst definitely makes you the superior germanic here, dont be a stupid hoe lmao i am only 50% european, i cant be more germanic than you are.

Nope, you are the übermensch Arian race guy with a little Rhineland ''thing'' going on.

[Gründig]

wElL mY lItTlE wAnNa-Be ArAb BoY, yOu SoUnD aNgRy To Me


xddddd

ok whatever son, bye white boy xd i dont even care what you say. weak attempts at trolling me.


if you wanna troll me atleast try to do it better lmao, adios faggitos

Still mad I see :(

[Lauχum]

Lets look at an nMonte model to see an ancestral breakdown of a modern North African population:

"distance%=2.7444"
Moroccan
Levant_N,24
Iberomaurusian,23.8
Levant_BA,18
Yoruba,12.2
Iberia_BA,7.2
Iberia_N,6.8
Ganj_Dareh_N,6
WHG,2

Iberomaurusian is Palaeolithic North African admixture.
Levant_N came during the neolithic from SW Asia. (Fregel et al 2018)
Iberia_N +WHG due to migrations to North African from Europe during prehistory. (Fregel et al 2018)
Iberia_BA has steppe ancestry, may also largely be due to prehistoric migrations but could also partially be explained by more recent European settlement (Expelled Muslim Iberians/Sicilians).
Levant_BA-related stuff may have come during prehistory but also likely arrived later due to Phoenician settlement and the Arab invasions.
Yoruba due to continuous Trans-saharan contact (May partly predate the Arab slave trade).

So based on this, you can see how Maghrebis differentiate from SW Asian groups. This would translate into higher West Med (and Atlantic) on GEDmatch yes, but also higher Sub-Saharan and NE African.
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Northeast_African 34.68
2 Red_Sea 27.64
3 West_Med 22.16
4 Sub-Saharan 10.75
5 East_Med 4.76

IAM GEDmatch results. You can see how historically Red Sea, West Med, Sub-Saharan and NE_African are probably all important components in Maghrebis. So "Berber" isn't just represented by one component, but many.

[Congolese Rice]

Lets look at an nMonte model to see an ancestral breakdown of a modern North African population:

"distance%=2.7444"
Moroccan
Levant_N,24
Iberomaurusian,23.8
Levant_BA,18
Yoruba,12.2
Iberia_BA,7.2
Iberia_N,6.8
Ganj_Dareh_N,6
WHG,2

Iberomaurusian is Palaeolithic North African admixture.
Levant_N came during the neolithic from SW Asia. (Fregel et al 2018)
Iberia_N +WHG due to migrations to North African from Europe during prehistory. (Fregel et al 2018)
Iberia_BA has steppe ancestry, may also largely be due to prehistoric migrations but could also partially be explained by more recent European settlement (Expelled Muslim Iberians/Sicilians).
Levant_BA-related stuff may have come during prehistory but also likely arrived later due to Phoenician settlement and the Arab invasions.
Yoruba due to continuous Trans-saharan contact (May partly predate the Arab slave trade).

So based on this, you can see how Maghrebis differentiate from SW Asian groups. This would translate into higher West Med (and Atlantic) on GEDmatch yes, but also higher Sub-Saharan and NE African.
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Northeast_African 34.68
2 Red_Sea 27.64
3 West_Med 22.16
4 Sub-Saharan 10.75
5 East_Med 4.76

IAM GEDmatch results. You can see how historically Red Sea, West Med, Sub-Saharan and NE_African are probably all important components in Maghrebis. So "Berber" isn't just represented by one component, but many.

hm, thats cool i suppose. then my middle eastern is probably mostly berber and minor arabid then. if that's the case

then im technically 50/50 african and european lol.

[Aren]

eurogenes k13 isnt very accurate for me at all, it gives me high oracle distances and lower mediterranean/arab, but idc ill post some of it anyway.


btw, do you happen to know why some tests are so bad with my ethnicity? i am 100% convinced of the fact that i am not 60%+ european, yet all tests give me different results. Even Doug McDonald said his test and DNA fits werent reliable for me at all XD now that's some serious shit right there.

West_Med 5.56
West_Asian 1.23
East_Med 4.28
Red_Sea 3.55
South_Asian 1.40
East_Asian 1.58
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.99
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.98
Sub-Saharan 24.56

=====

and for comparison here's my africa9:


Population
Europe 46.71
NW_Africa 5.17
SW_Asia 21.84
E_Africa -
S_Africa 2.20
Mbuti -
W_Africa 21.07
Biaka 1.18
San 1.83

idk, eurogenes is very weird for people with my ethnic breakdown.
You are niether Arab nor Berber. Post all of the components from K13 please aswell as Oracle + 4 way mix mode.

[Congolese Rice]

You are niether Arab nor Berber. Post all of the components from K13 please aswell as Oracle + 4 way mix mode.

lmao, oh forget it i dont care enough to proof to you niggas that i aint 70%+ european. if you dont find that i am arab or berber ok good for you idc, move on find another thread to post on.

[Congolese Rice]

apparently its so hard for people to believe that eurogenes and puntDNAL are not good tests for me. because they work for yo ass doesnt mean they work perfectly for me. dodecad and gedrosia are my best calculators and dodecad gives me 51% atlantic-baltic or whatever, 51% isnt 70% sorry to pop your bubble :(

World9 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 51.00
2 African 25.69
3 Southern 9.89
4 Caucasus_Gedrosia 8.60
5 Amerindian 2.22
6 South_Asian 1.17
7 East_Asian 1.05


Finished reading population data. 250 populations found.
9 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 PUR30 @ 21.669155
2 Puerto_Rican @ 22.433193
3 Brazilian_Dodecad @ 25.210340
4 Dominican @ 27.945721
5 Romanians_Behar @ 31.003141
6 Extremadura_1000 Genomes @ 31.430727
7 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 31.541395
8 Canarias_1000 Genomes @ 31.571606
9 Portuguese_Dodecad @ 31.618629
10 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 31.808084
11 Hungarians_Behar @ 31.983232
12 Galicia_1000 Genomes @ 32.182503
13 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 32.335743
14 Murcia_1000 Genomes @ 32.483116
15 Baleares_1000 Genomes @ 32.550945
16 Andalucia_1000 Genomes @ 32.563145
17 Spaniards_Behar @ 32.835537
18 French_HGDP @ 32.920883
19 Castilla_La_Mancha_1000 Genomes @ 32.979599
20 North_Italian_HGDP @ 32.980614

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Dominican +50% Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 6.056516


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Polish_Dodecad +25% San_He +25% PUR30 @ 1.695446


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Brazilian_Dodecad + San + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.426385
2 Brazilian_Dodecad + Bantu_S.W._Herero_HGDP + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.431525
3 Brazilian_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP + San + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.472408
4 Brazilian_Dodecad + Bantu_S.E._Tswana_HGDP + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.503502
5 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Brazilian_Dodecad + San + Russian_B_Behar @ 1.503895
6 Brazilian_Dodecad + Bantu_S.E._Zulu_HGDP + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.506195
7 Polish_Dodecad + Brazilian_Dodecad + Bantu_S.W._Herero_HGDP + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.511248
8 Brazilian_Dodecad + Bantu_S.W._Ovambo_HGDP + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.513936
9 Brazilian_Dodecad + YRI30_HGDP + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.513987
10 Brazilian_Dodecad + Yoruba_HGDP + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.518726

[Chaos One]

Yemeni, there's a problem with guys like you and me cause West Med is an important number to define Berbers and since most West Europeans have a good amount of it (specially Portuguese/Spanish/Italians), things can get really mixed.

For example, look at my results:

Eurogenes K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 23.43
Baltic 6.52
West_Med 18.53
West_Asian 5.98
East_Med 15.97
Red_Sea 2.57

MDLP K23b:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 21.35
2 European_Early_Farmers 18.17
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 16.42
4 Subsaharian 10.45
5 Amerindian 9.72
6 North_African 9.05
7 Near_East 3.98

Africa9:

Europe 46.13
NW_Africa 13.84
SW_Asia 26.29
E_Africa 0.13
S_Africa 4.03
Mbuti -
W_Africa 6.37



So, it's hard to tell how much I'm Berber. The fact is, my NW African is somewhat high when this factor is alone like Africa9 or MDLP, but since I'm more Italian than anything my West Med will be somewhat high either way (and my Red Sea is par with Southern Italians, for example). Worst, my East Med has some Turkic or Iranic factor and things get even more weird.

At least MyHeritage gave me 10% North African, so I know I have some background.

[Aren]

lmao, oh forget it i dont care enough to proof to you niggas that i aint 70%+ european. if you dont find that i am arab or berber ok good for you idc, move on find another thread to post on.

Just post Eurogenes K13 and the Oracle 4 way mix.
Dude btw look at your Red Sea and East Med components. If you are 32% Arab you would score much more of those components. I think your mother was half black and the rest of her ancestry probably Dutch + some minor native. Your Red Sea comes from your black side. Many Africans score Red Sea.
So basically 70-75% Dutch/Northern Euro + 25% SSA + 1-5% Native.

Remove Falafel and Kebab from profile ty.

[Congolese Rice]

Yemeni, there's a problem with guys like you and me cause West Med is an important number to define Berbers and since most West Europeans have a good amount of it (specially Portuguese/Spanish/Italians), things can get really mixed.

For example, look at my results:

Eurogenes K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 23.43
Baltic 6.52
West_Med 18.53
West_Asian 5.98
East_Med 15.97
Red_Sea 2.57

MDLP K23b:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 21.35
2 European_Early_Farmers 18.17
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 16.42
4 Subsaharian 10.45
5 Amerindian 9.72
6 North_African 9.05
7 Near_East 3.98

Africa9:

Europe 46.13
NW_Africa 13.84
SW_Asia 26.29
E_Africa 0.13
S_Africa 4.03
Mbuti -
W_Africa 6.37



So, it's hard to tell how much I'm Berber. The fact is, my NW African is somewhat high when this factor is alone like Africa9 or MDLP, but since I'm more Italian than anything my West Med will be somewhat high either way (and my Red Sea is par with Southern Italians, for example). Worst, my East Med has some Turkic or Iranic factor and things get even more weird.

At least MyHeritage gave me 10% North African, so I know I have some background.

well yeah, i scored east med on DNA.LAND, and gencove too. 35% african on MyGenomeBox and roughly 54% european on there, however my south european was higher than my west european and other european components so that was kinda weird.

But yeah, i'm definitely around the 42-55% european range most definitely, a good chunk of my ethnicity is all european, then my second largest is probably berber, then SSA, and then amerindian. im too mixed to be doing these tests lol.

[Congolese Rice]

Just post Eurogenes K13 and the Oracle 4 way mix.
Dude btw look at your Red Sea and East Med components. If you are 32% Arab you would score much more of those components. I think your mother was half black and the rest of her ancestry probably Dutch + some minor native. Your Red Sea comes from your black side. Many Africans score Red Sea.
So basically 70-75% Dutch/Northern Euro + 25% SSA + 1-5% Native.

Remove Falafel and Kebab from profile ty.

lol. how about you go fuck yourself and have a nice day

everybody takes 1 test as 100% proof and fact and their comments are completely biased off of it. nigga shut your ass up the only reason you say i am 75% dutch is because those 3 faggots have been trolling me about it and saying it. i know i am not 70%+ northern euro, end of story.

have a good day

[Congolese Rice]

these are my MDLP k23b results, i guess i am kinda mixed. i only dont know what neolithic/EEF stands for. probably my berber/mediterranean and or something else im not sure



Population
Amerindian 0.98
Ancestral_Altaic 3.08
South_Central_Asian 4.44
Arctic 0.10
South_Indian 0.60
Australoid -
Austronesian 0.68
Caucasian 17.10
Archaic_Human -
East_African 0.39
East_Siberian -
European_Early_Farmers 16.31
Khoisan -
Melano_Polynesian -
Archaic_African 4.47
Near_East 2.04
North_African 0.10
Paleo_Siberian -
African_Pygmy 0.05
South_East_Asian 0.69
Subsaharian 21.37
Tungus-Altaic -
European_Hunters_Gatherers 27.61


^ strangely i never score berber on gedmatch tests. its always either SW_asian or a mix of middle eastern components.


yet Doug McDonald did say that my Mideast was North african or ethiopian. i guess im just that weird case, no test on gedmatch is really 100% accurate for me, some are more accurate than others. ppl are just hating because they arent as mixed as i am lmao

[Chaos One]

I think this

Ancestral_Altaic 3.08
South_Central_Asian 4.44

Is more interesting than this

North_African 0.10


My point of view, of course. Maybe you're looking to the wrong side.

[Aren]

lol. how about you go fuck yourself and have a nice day

everybody takes 1 test as 100% proof and fact and their comments are completely biased off of it. nigga shut your ass up the only reason you say i am 75% dutch is because those 3 faggots have been trolling me about it and saying it. i know i am not 70%+ northern euro, end of story.

have a good day

You are handpicking some low K calculators made for non-Euro admixed people and coming to false conclusions. Why do you refuse to post your 4 way mixed mode for Eurogenes K13?
How can you think you have significant amount of Berber/Arab with that low East Med and Red Sea?

No Nigga you are S I C K

[Congolese Rice]

You are handpicking some low K calculators made for non-Euro admixed people and coming to false conclusions. Why do you refuse to post your 4 way mixed mode for Eurogenes K13?
How can you think you have significant amount of Berber/Arab with that low East Med and Red Sea?

No Nigga you are S I C K

i aint handpicking fucking shit son, i am non-euro ADMIXED incase you dont fucking know retarded ass boy, secondly here you go son of a bitch:



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Danish +25% Southeast_English +25% Yoruban @ 6.055470


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Danish + Danish + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.055470
2 Danish + Danish + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.055470
3 Danish + Danish + Danish + Yoruban @ 6.081134
4 Danish + Danish + Danish + Yoruban @ 6.081134
5 Danish + North_German + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.108428
6 Danish + North_German + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.108428
7 Danish + Danish + North_Dutch + Yoruban @ 6.125859
8 Danish + Danish + North_Dutch + Yoruban @ 6.125859
9 Danish + North_Dutch + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.132771
10 Danish + North_Dutch + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.132771
11 Danish + Danish + Orcadian + Yoruban @ 6.155766
12 Danish + Danish + Orcadian + Yoruban @ 6.155766
13 North_Dutch + North_German + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.177406
14 North_Dutch + North_German + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.177406
15 Danish + Danish + North_German + Yoruban @ 6.178460
16 Danish + Danish + North_German + Yoruban @ 6.178460
17 Danish + North_German + Orcadian + Yoruban @ 6.180493
18 Danish + North_German + Orcadian + Yoruban @ 6.180493
19 Danish + North_German + West_Scottish + Yoruban @ 6.180878
20 Danish + North_German + West_Scottish + Yoruban @ 6.180878

^ see these oracle distances? yeah, super accurate wow. 10/10 would eurogenes again, go fuck yourself son.


i aint handpick shit, i aint come to no false conclusions. the reason why i pick low K calculators is because i find them most accurate, and because i am non-euro admixed you fucking retard. tests like eurogenes arent accurate for me because i am not 100% west asian or 100% european, dodecad, gedrosia, and mdlp are good.


i aint sick, you faggots are for trying SOOO hard to make me seem 70% european. if i were i'd already know by now.

[Congolese Rice]

I think this

Ancestral_Altaic 3.08
South_Central_Asian 4.44

Is more interesting than this

North_African 0.10


My point of view, of course. Maybe you're looking to the wrong side.

well whatever, tbh i dont really care anymore. all these people trolling and hating because my eurogenes k13 show little MENA, my dodecad and mdlp results show more MENA than eurogenes and still they keep coming back to my K13 results, jesus christ this is getting sooo old.


MDLP World 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 29.36
2 North_and_East_European 27.39
3 Sub_Saharian 21.84
4 Caucaus_Parsia 7.70
5 Middle_East 5.33
6 Paleo_African 3.86
7 Mesoamerican 2.11
8 Arctic_Amerind 1.03


Finished reading population data. 257 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lumbee @ 8.783614
2 Puerto-Rican @ 22.101797
3 Bosnian @ 28.201881
4 Macedonian @ 28.351553
5 Bulgarian @ 28.510197
6 Serbian @ 28.558668
7 Colville @ 28.774231
8 Gagauz @ 28.780857
9 Hungarian @ 28.949675
10 Latvian_V @ 28.965096
11 Croatian @ 29.021526
12 Montenegrin @ 29.137178
13 Romania @ 29.433310
14 Croatian_V @ 29.473038
15 Swiss @ 29.598436
16 Austrian @ 30.128340
17 Tatar_Kryashen @ 30.135967
18 Slovenian @ 30.255627
19 Ashkenazim_V @ 30.462284
20 German @ 30.496473

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lumbee +50% Lumbee @ 8.783614


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Latvian_V +25% Bantu +25% Puerto-Rican @ 2.521659


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Latvian_V + Bantu + Ukrainian-West + Puerto-Rican @ 2.062522
2 Latvian_V + Bantu + Ukrainian_V + Puerto-Rican @ 2.091951
3 Latvian_V + Bantu + Slovakian + Puerto-Rican @ 2.101343
4 Latvian_V + Lemba + Puerto-Rican + Sorb @ 2.191796
5 Latvian_V + Lemba + Swedish_V + Puerto-Rican @ 2.201354


=====

Population Percentage
Sub Saharan 25.68%
Oceanian 0.30%
Amerindian 2.27%
Euro Hunter Gatherer 42.32%
Siberian 0.26%
South East Asian 1.46%
Near Eastern 27.70%
=======

Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 32.90
2 Sub_Saharan 25.10
3 Atlantic_Med 24.07
4 Gedrosia 5.40
5 Caucasus 5.30
6 Southwest_Asian 2.82
7 Southeast_Asian 1.24
8 South_Asian 1.09


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 German_Dodecad @ 31.198839
2 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 31.616970
3 Hungarians_Behar @ 31.662771
4 Dutch_Dodecad @ 32.357471
5 French_Dodecad @ 32.458168
6 French_HGDP @ 32.843708
7 Kent_1000Genomes @ 33.263981
8 CEU30_1000Genomes @ 33.360668
9 English_Dodecad @ 33.424427
10 Argyll_1000Genomes @ 34.196392
11 British_Isles_Dodecad @ 34.235237
12 Cornwall_1000Genomes @ 34.299873
13 British_Dodecad @ 34.402660
14 Romanians_Behar @ 34.518970
15 Orkney_1000Genomes @ 34.756279
16 Irish_Dodecad @ 34.775875
17 Orcadian_HGDP @ 34.803265
18 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 35.626453
19 Norwegian_Dodecad @ 35.978722
20 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 36.172871

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% ASW30_HapMap3 +50% Norwegian_Dodecad @ 18.250799


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Dodecad +25% Mordovians_Yunusbayev +25% Yoruba_HGDP @ 3.269624


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++
1 Argyll_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Yoruba_HGDP @ 2.744940
2 Argyll_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + YRI30_HGDP @ 2.744940
3 Galicia_1000Genomes + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Orkney_1000Genomes + Yoruba_HGDP @ 2.821002
4 Galicia_1000Genomes + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Orkney_1000Genomes + YRI30_HGDP @ 2.821002
5 Galicia_1000Genomes + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Orcadian_HGDP + Yoruba_HGDP @ 2.858568
6 Galicia_1000Genomes + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Orcadian_HGDP + YRI30_HGDP @ 2.858568
7 Galicia_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Yoruba_HGDP @ 2.893577
8 Galicia_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + YRI30_HGDP @ 2.893577
9 Argyll_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + Russian_HGDP + Yoruba_HGDP @ 2.899794
10 Argyll_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + Russian_HGDP + YRI30_HGDP @ 2.899794

=========


Eurasia K3 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 70.71
2 SSA 24.63
3 E_Eurasian 4.66


Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
3 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Yemen @ 6.961379
2 BedouinA @ 16.483727
3 Jordanian @ 21.202770
4 Palestinian @ 22.186718
5 Syrian @ 22.687027
6 Makrani @ 23.260059
7 Yemenite_Jew @ 23.740688
8 Saudi @ 24.097925
9 Lebanese @ 24.929094
10 Brahui @ 26.553122
11 Balochi @ 26.774252
12 Iranian @ 27.331972
13 Kurd_C @ 28.814047
14 Turkish @ 28.826607
15 Tajik_Pomiri @ 30.079639
16 Kurd_SE @ 30.190075
17 Balkar @ 30.339142
18 Pashtun_Afghan @ 30.998453
19 Iraqi_Jew @ 31.145370
20 Kurd_N @ 31.159136

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Chechen +50% Ethiopian_Jew @ 0.652094
2 50% Adygei +50% Ethiopian_Jew @ 0.696663
3 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Mordovian @ 1.432484
4 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Finnish @ 1.551258
5 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Russian @ 1.786772
6 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Kurd_N @ 1.798264
7 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Loschbour @ 1.887879
8 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Kurd_C @ 2.108809
9 50% Abkhasian +50% Ethiopian_Jew @ 2.230215
10 50% Estonian +50% Ethiopian_Jew @ 2.392141
11 50% Belarusian +50% Ethiopian_Jew @ 2.721415
12 50% Balkar +50% Ethiopian_Jew @ 2.774813
13 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Turkish @ 2.802476
14 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Georgian_Jew @ 2.912771
15 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Iranian @ 3.001159
16 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Ukrainian @ 3.183280
17 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Georgian @ 3.487983
18 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Iranian_Jew @ 3.580578
19 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Lithuanian @ 3.592305
20 50% Ethiopian_Jew +50% Hungarian @ 3.660554

=====

they are sooo sad, i cant be 75% north european cuz im only 70% caucasoid, mixed caucasoid at that. but whatever, im not concerned about my ethnicity i know what i am. half european quarter berber quarter african, done lmao

[Gründig]

i aint handpicking fucking shit son, i am non-euro ADMIXED incase you dont fucking know retarded ass boy, secondly here you go son of a bitch:



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Danish +25% Southeast_English +25% Yoruban @ 6.055470


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Danish + Danish + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.055470
2 Danish + Danish + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.055470
3 Danish + Danish + Danish + Yoruban @ 6.081134
4 Danish + Danish + Danish + Yoruban @ 6.081134
5 Danish + North_German + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.108428
6 Danish + North_German + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.108428
7 Danish + Danish + North_Dutch + Yoruban @ 6.125859
8 Danish + Danish + North_Dutch + Yoruban @ 6.125859
9 Danish + North_Dutch + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.132771
10 Danish + North_Dutch + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.132771
11 Danish + Danish + Orcadian + Yoruban @ 6.155766
12 Danish + Danish + Orcadian + Yoruban @ 6.155766
13 North_Dutch + North_German + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.177406
14 North_Dutch + North_German + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.177406
15 Danish + Danish + North_German + Yoruban @ 6.178460
16 Danish + Danish + North_German + Yoruban @ 6.178460
17 Danish + North_German + Orcadian + Yoruban @ 6.180493
18 Danish + North_German + Orcadian + Yoruban @ 6.180493
19 Danish + North_German + West_Scottish + Yoruban @ 6.180878
20 Danish + North_German + West_Scottish + Yoruban @ 6.180878

^ see these oracle distances? yeah, super accurate wow. 10/10 would eurogenes again, go fuck yourself son.


i aint handpick shit, i aint come to no false conclusions. the reason why i pick low K calculators is because i find them most accurate, and because i am non-euro admixed you fucking retard. tests like eurogenes arent accurate for me because i am not 100% west asian or 100% european, dodecad, gedrosia, and mdlp are good.


i aint sick, you faggots are for trying SOOO hard to make me seem 70% european. if i were i'd already know by now.

:picard2:

[Congolese Rice]

:picard2:

oh now you're back too, nice. only a matter of time before your faggy friends join you xd

let me tell you. this is the ONLY test on gedmatch that gives me these results, what makes you think it's accurate? on some real shit jesus christ. Every test gives me different results, but no test comes near these results on the entirety of gedmatch. only eurogenes manages to do this shit, check my dodecad, mdlp, gedrosia, harappaworld, puntdnal, etc all the results are different from eurogenes. if you guys srsly biase your opinion on 1 test then please get off my thread, i aint gon bother talking to braindead niggas

[Gründig]

oh now you're back too, nice. only a matter of time before your faggy friends join you xd

let me tell you. this is the ONLY test on gedmatch that gives me these results, what makes you think it's accurate? on some real shit jesus christ. Every test gives me different results, but no test comes near these results on the entirety of gedmatch. only eurogenes manages to do this shit, check my dodecad, mdlp, gedrosia, harappaworld, puntdnal, etc all the results are different from eurogenes. if you guys srsly biase your opinion on 1 test then please get off my thread, i aint gon bother talking to braindead niggas

Why are you so obsessed with being Arab? Do you have any paper trail proof or anything that would even point in this direction ? Of course not all the tests will be accurate for you BUT your results are showing differently.

You're contiously making yourself sound like an idiot. Relax.

[Aren]

i aint handpicking fucking shit son, i am non-euro ADMIXED incase you dont fucking know retarded ass boy, secondly here you go son of a bitch:



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Danish +25% Southeast_English +25% Yoruban @ 6.055470


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Danish + Danish + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.055470
2 Danish + Danish + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.055470
3 Danish + Danish + Danish + Yoruban @ 6.081134
4 Danish + Danish + Danish + Yoruban @ 6.081134
5 Danish + North_German + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.108428
6 Danish + North_German + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.108428
7 Danish + Danish + North_Dutch + Yoruban @ 6.125859
8 Danish + Danish + North_Dutch + Yoruban @ 6.125859
9 Danish + North_Dutch + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.132771
10 Danish + North_Dutch + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.132771
11 Danish + Danish + Orcadian + Yoruban @ 6.155766
12 Danish + Danish + Orcadian + Yoruban @ 6.155766
13 North_Dutch + North_German + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.177406
14 North_Dutch + North_German + Southeast_English + Yoruban @ 6.177406
15 Danish + Danish + North_German + Yoruban @ 6.178460
16 Danish + Danish + North_German + Yoruban @ 6.178460
17 Danish + North_German + Orcadian + Yoruban @ 6.180493
18 Danish + North_German + Orcadian + Yoruban @ 6.180493
19 Danish + North_German + West_Scottish + Yoruban @ 6.180878
20 Danish + North_German + West_Scottish + Yoruban @ 6.180878

^ see these oracle distances? yeah, super accurate wow. 10/10 would eurogenes again, go fuck yourself son.


i aint handpick shit, i aint come to no false conclusions. the reason why i pick low K calculators is because i find them most accurate, and because i am non-euro admixed you fucking retard. tests like eurogenes arent accurate for me because i am not 100% west asian or 100% european, dodecad, gedrosia, and mdlp are good.


i aint sick, you faggots are for trying SOOO hard to make me seem 70% european. if i were i'd already know by now.

Looks like you are indeed atleast 50% Dutch, 25% probably mix of Dutch with smaller amounts of Spanish and Amerindian. K13 doesn't have a Carribean reference that's why the fit is bad. Also Niggah Eurogenes K13 is totally fine for non-Whites and admixed people.
MDLP K23 is quite accurate for you

5 Latvian_V + Lemba + Swedish_V + Puerto-Rican @ 2.201354

Latvian + Swedish + the Spanish part of Puerto Rican = Dutch at aprox 70%, the rest being Black + some Amerindian.

There you go easy peasy, now stop culturally appropriating the word Falafel.

[Congolese Rice]

Why are you so obsessed with being Arab? Do you have any paper trail proof or anything that would even point in this direction ? Of course not all the tests will be accurate for you BUT your results are showing differently.

You're contiously making yourself sound like an idiot. Relax.

ommgg, bro please trust me. i am NOT obsessed with being arab at fucking all.

but its extremely frustrating if i try to explain to people why my results might differ they just call me a white boy, a obsessed arab wanna be, and a OAD whatever the fuck that is. i am NOT 70% european and people biase their opinion on 1 test, how can you even do that? that's not logical and factual in any way shape or form.

there are more than 20+ tests on gedmatch and only 1 or 2 give me results like these. ill leave the rest for you to figure out.

every test shows me to be ATLEAST 49% european, yes i agree i am partially european, i am partially germanic/french/iberian whatever you want to call it. but i am not 3/4's european thats stupid and unrealistic.

[Gründig]

ommgg, bro please trust me. i am NOT obsessed with being arab at fucking all.

but its extremely frustrating if i try to explain to people why my results might differ they just call me a white boy, a obsessed arab wanna be, and a OAD whatever the fuck that is. i am NOT 70% european and people biase their opinion on 1 test, how can you even do that? that's not logical and factual in any way shape or form.

there are more than 20+ tests on gedmatch and only 1 or 2 give me results like these. ill leave the rest for you to figure out.

every test shows me to be ATLEAST 49% european, yes i agree i am partially european, i am partially germanic/french/iberian whatever you want to call it. but i am not 3/4's european thats stupid and unrealistic.

You're obsessed....

[Congolese Rice]

Looks like you are indeed atleast 50% Dutch, 25% probably mix of Dutch with smaller amounts of Spanish and Amerindian. K13 doesn't have a Carribean reference that's why the fit is bad. Also Niggah Eurogenes K13 is totally fine for non-Whites and admixed people.
MDLP K23 is quite accurate for you

5 Latvian_V + Lemba + Swedish_V + Puerto-Rican @ 2.201354

Latvian + Swedish + the Spanish part of Puerto Rican = Dutch at aprox 70%, the rest being Black + some Amerindian.

There you go easy peasy, now stop culturally appropriating the word Falafel.

population references cant even be taken super literally in my case. i am not 70% dutch jesus christ xD you are insane dude. all you people focus the population references, they arent accurate for me. look at my percentages, they show otherwise. no test shows me to be above 60%+ european percentage wise, the population references i wont even begin to take seriously. If Doug McDonald's DNA fit cant do it for me, neither will your eurogenes K13.

and no, it isnt as i am not partially swedish or latvian. i am partially german, french, british, irish, scottish, and maybe minor east european. all that adds up to 45+%, try again.

[Congolese Rice]

You're obsessed....

lol, whats the use of saying otherwise if you faggots keep saying the exact opposite.


yes, i am completely obsessed 100%, i couldnt agree more omg you speak the truth into my life.


go fuck yourself and leave my thread lmao if you have nothing better to say.


i am not obsessed in the slightest but if you tell me i am 70% european i will tell you otherwise with straight up facts, anyways here for you retards:


YOURDNAPORTAL:

eurogenes K7 europees: 42.32%

Ancient Near East K13: 55.32%

======

MDLP:

MDLP K11: 44.59%

MDLP K16: 51.85%

MDLP K23b: 44.71%

MDLP-22: 46.17%

MDLP world: 56.75%

=====

Eurogenes:

Euro HG/Farmer: 41.50% Baltic HG

Eurogenes K13: 54.82%

Jtest: 57.65%

Eurogenes K9b: 51.41%

Eurogenes K9: 48.53%

Eurogenes K10: 56.82%



=====

Dodecad:

Dodecad V3: 46.53%

Africa9: 46.71%

World9: 51.00%

Dodecad K7b: 51.63%

Dodecad K12b: 44.93%

=====

HarappaWorld: 46.87%

=====

EthioHelix K10 + French: 58.53%

=====

PUNTDNAL:

puntDNAL K10: 50.67%

puntDNAL K12: 43.61%

puntDNAL K13: 46.77%

puntDNAL K15: 49.71%

=====

Gedrosia:


Gedrosia K12: 52.50%

Ancient Eurasia K6: 45.19%

=====


total tests = 26

total percentage / 26 = 49.50%


^ my average european percentage = 49.50%


you're welcome

[Gründig]

population references cant even be taken super literally in my case. i am not 70% dutch jesus christ xD you are insane dude. all you people focus the population references, they arent accurate for me. look at my percentages, they show otherwise. no test shows me to be above 60%+ european percentage wise, the population references i wont even begin to take seriously. If Doug McDonald's DNA fit cant do it for me, neither will your eurogenes K13.

and no, it isnt as i am not partially swedish or latvian. i am partially german, french, british, irish, scottish, and maybe minor east european. all that adds up to 45+%, try again.

My little dutch boy is also obsessed with this 45% number and Doug McDonald.

[Congolese Rice]

also gtfo my thread now, yall completely killed it with your dumbass trolling. i started this thread to get serious awsners not bullshit like this.


"wow your eurogenes k13 shows u 2 be 64% europien, l0l, u must be 70% dutch!1!"


childish motherfuckers omg.

[Gründig]

lol, whats the use of saying otherwise if you faggots keep saying the exact opposite.


yes, i am completely obsessed 100%, i couldnt agree more omg you speak the truth into my life.


go fuck yourself and leave my thread lmao if you have nothing better to say.


i am not obsessed in the slightest but if you tell me i am 70% european i will tell you otherwise with straight up facts, anyways here for you retards:


YOURDNAPORTAL:

eurogenes K7 europees: 42.32%

Ancient Near East K13: 55.32%

======

MDLP:

MDLP K11: 44.59%

MDLP K16: 51.85%

MDLP K23b: 44.71%

MDLP-22: 46.17%

MDLP world: 56.75%

=====

Eurogenes:

Euro HG/Farmer: 41.50% Baltic HG

Eurogenes K13: 54.82%

Jtest: 57.65%

Eurogenes K9b: 51.41%

Eurogenes K9: 48.53%

Eurogenes K10: 56.82%



=====

Dodecad:

Dodecad V3: 46.53%

Africa9: 46.71%

World9: 51.00%

Dodecad K7b: 51.63%

Dodecad K12b: 44.93%

=====

HarappaWorld: 46.87%

=====

EthioHelix K10 + French: 58.53%

=====

PUNTDNAL:

puntDNAL K10: 50.67%

puntDNAL K12: 43.61%

puntDNAL K13: 46.77%

puntDNAL K15: 49.71%

=====

Gedrosia:


Gedrosia K12: 52.50%

Ancient Eurasia K6: 45.19%

=====


total tests = 26

total percentage / 26 = 49.50%


^ my average european percentage = 49.50%


you're welcome

If is was "facts" why are all those numbers different?

[rein]

ommgg, bro please trust me. i am NOT obsessed with being arab at fucking all.

but its extremely frustrating if i try to explain to people why my results might differ they just call me a white boy, a obsessed arab wanna be, and a OAD whatever the fuck that is. i am NOT 70% european and people biase their opinion on 1 test, how can you even do that? that's not logical and factual in any way shape or form.

there are more than 20+ tests on gedmatch and only 1 or 2 give me results like these. ill leave the rest for you to figure out.

every test shows me to be ATLEAST 49% european, yes i agree i am partially european, i am partially germanic/french/iberian whatever you want to call it. but i am not 3/4's european thats stupid and unrealistic.

I believe eggyolk meant Off-Arab Dillema by OAD.

[Aren]

population references cant even be taken super literally in my case. i am not 70% dutch jesus christ xD you are insane dude. all you people focus the population references, they arent accurate for me. look at my percentages, they show otherwise. no test shows me to be above 60%+ european percentage wise, the population references i wont even begin to take seriously. If Doug McDonald's DNA fit cant do it for me, neither will your eurogenes K13.

and no, it isnt as i am not partially swedish or latvian. i am partially german, french, british, irish, scottish, and maybe minor east european. all that adds up to 45+%, try again.

AHAHA you don't even know the basics. Just because the 4 way mix gives you Swedish or Latvian doesn't mean you have Swedish/Latvian ancestry. LMAO you are totally lost. You just posted Eurogenes K13 4 way mix which gave you 75% Danish/Dutch/German yeah you are close to 75% European deal with it Yemeni falafel God.

You are not going to find many accurate calculators for you on Gedmatch because you have a rare and rather unique mix. Most calculators don't have carribean references so it's gonna give worse fits than normally. Niggah you just posted the 4 way mix from MDLP K23 and you get basically 70% Euro.

[Alessio]

also gtfo my thread now, yall completely killed it with your dumbass trolling. i started this thread to get serious awsners not bullshit like this.


"wow your eurogenes k13 shows u 2 be 64% europien, l0l, u must be 70% dutch!1!"


childish motherfuckers omg.

Not ''just European'' but rather Northwestern Euro.

[Congolese Rice]

If is was "facts" why are all those numbers different?

no numbers are different lmao, i added up the 100% european components. not my SW_asian, berber, west asian, amerindian, SSA, or anything admix. then you get this.

since yall be saying i am 70% dutch, that must mean i have no mediterranean ancestry right? well i do score it and so it's my berber ancestry. these are the results i score im not even gonna argue, if you dont wanna believe me thats fine too.


my european is exactly in this range- 42%-55%. i don't believe it's 49.50%, but that's my average. it's probably somewhere in the range of 52 or 54%. would be more realistic since my mom's side also has 12.5% european.

[Aren]

lol, whats the use of saying otherwise if you faggots keep saying the exact opposite.


yes, i am completely obsessed 100%, i couldnt agree more omg you speak the truth into my life.


go fuck yourself and leave my thread lmao if you have nothing better to say.


i am not obsessed in the slightest but if you tell me i am 70% european i will tell you otherwise with straight up facts, anyways here for you retards:


YOURDNAPORTAL:

eurogenes K7 europees: 42.32%

Ancient Near East K13: 55.32%

======

MDLP:

MDLP K11: 44.59%

MDLP K16: 51.85%

MDLP K23b: 44.71%

MDLP-22: 46.17%

MDLP world: 56.75%

=====

Eurogenes:

Euro HG/Farmer: 41.50% Baltic HG

Eurogenes K13: 54.82%

Jtest: 57.65%

Eurogenes K9b: 51.41%

Eurogenes K9: 48.53%

Eurogenes K10: 56.82%



=====

Dodecad:

Dodecad V3: 46.53%

Africa9: 46.71%

World9: 51.00%

Dodecad K7b: 51.63%

Dodecad K12b: 44.93%

=====

HarappaWorld: 46.87%

=====

EthioHelix K10 + French: 58.53%

=====

PUNTDNAL:

puntDNAL K10: 50.67%

puntDNAL K12: 43.61%

puntDNAL K13: 46.77%

puntDNAL K15: 49.71%

=====

Gedrosia:


Gedrosia K12: 52.50%

Ancient Eurasia K6: 45.19%

=====


total tests = 26

total percentage / 26 = 49.50%


^ my average european percentage = 49.50%


you're welcome

HAHAHAHAHAH TROLLL.

You think Europeans score 100% "Euro" on these Calcs? Check the averages you lost teenager.

[Congolese Rice]

AHAHA you don't even know the basics. Just because the 4 way mix gives you Swedish or Latvian doesn't mean you have Swedish/Latvian ancestry. LMAO you are totally lost. You just posted Eurogenes K13 4 way mix which gave you 75% Danish/Dutch/German yeah you are close to 75% European deal with it Yemeni falafel God.

You are not going to find many accurate calculators for you on Gedmatch because you have a rare and rather unique mix. Most calculators don't have carribean references so it's gonna give worse fits than normally. Niggah you just posted the 4 way mix from MDLP K23 and you get basically 70% Euro.

ok good for you. im still not 70% euro.

have a good day

[Congolese Rice]

HAHAHAHAHAH TROLLL.

You think Europeans score 100% "Euro" on these Calcs? Check the averages you lost teenager.

lmao, i never fucking said europeans score 100% euro. they definitely dont score 49% or 52% either, unless they are MIXED. good job you figured something new out today, i am proud of you go celebrate it

[Gründig]

ok good for you. im still not 70% euro.

have a good day

I thought you believe in "facts"?

Aren just laid it out for you plain and simple but you're still denying......

[Congolese Rice]

Not ''just European'' but rather Northwestern Euro.

ok.


well idk what you fgts wanna hear from me. i am not gonna tell you i am 70% euro because i am not, big deal eurogenes gives me more euro ancestry, wow surprising.


my dad's family is anywhere from 85% euro to 100% euro from what i know, my mom's family is 12.5% euro, doesnt add up to be 75% euro i think but ok.

[Congolese Rice]

I thought you believe in "facts"?

Aren just laid it out for you plain and simple but you're still denying......

Population
Amerindian 2.22
East_Asian 1.05
African 25.69
Atlantic_Baltic 51.00
Australasian -
Siberian 0.38
Caucasus_Gedrosia 8.60
Southern 9.89
South_Asian 1.17


"Atlantic_Baltic 51.00"

"""Atlantic_Baltic 51.00"""

ok, cool.

[Gründig]

ok.


well idk what you fgts wanna hear from me. i am not gonna tell you i am 70% euro because i am not, big deal eurogenes gives me more euro ancestry, wow surprising.


my dad's family is anywhere from 85% euro to 100% euro from what i know, my mom's family is 12.5% euro, doesnt add up to be 75% euro i think but ok.

Are You pulling these percentages out of your ass?
Were they even tested?

[GreentheViper]

Things are a bit heated in this thread, huh?

[Congolese Rice]

Are You pulling these percentages out of your ass?
Were they even tested?

lmao. you guys wanted me to use genealogy right? well here you go.


my mom's family has 1 white ancestor, the rest are all black and or berber admixed i am not sure.

my dad's family are mainly german, UK, some other shit and 12.5-17% french. their french ancestor was super dark and swarthy/berber looking and so i assume my berber partially comes from there.


no they weren't tested, my aunt has a ancestryDNA kit but she still hasnt taken it yet. about time she does.

[Congolese Rice]

Things are a bit heated in this thread, huh?

lol, sure. people wont stop giving up calling me 70% euro just because my eurogenes k13 results show me to be roughly 10-13% MENA or so. now they are calling me dutch, 70% dutch boy, white boy, etc name it lmao.


meanwhile all my other tests are in the 45-57% range, very mature people lmao, i give up xd i aint even gone argue anymore.

[Gründig]

lmao. you guys wanted me to use genealogy right? well here you go.


my mom's family has 1 white ancestor, the rest are all black and or berber admixed i am not sure.

my dad's family are mainly german, UK, some other shit and 12.5-17% french. their french ancestor was super dark and swarthy/berber looking and so i assume my berber partially comes from there.


no they weren't tested, my aunt has a ancestryDNA kit but she still hasnt taken it yet. about time she does.

So yes, on a scientific level you're pulling it out of your ass. They need to be tested in order to made factual claims about their true genetic make up.

Therefore applying to YOUR percentages.

I can sit here and pretend I'm japanese....but it doesn't make it true...

[rein]

Europeans from different countries score different percentages of components on this test.
https://i.imgur.com/LWME5Iql.jpg

If you’re interested to find out more about your ancestry, consider hiring a genealogist later in life.

[Congolese Rice]

So yes, on a scientific level you're pulling it out of your ass. They need to be tested in order to made factual claims about their true genetic make up.

Therefore applying to YOUR percentages.

ok cool, if i dont know their ethnic breakdown then who are you to say i am 75% european? xD i dont believe a single test. what i would believe is if every test gave me 65%+ european, then i would accept it and i wouldn't even be here arguing with you and that other dutch buy and the turk.

but ok who cares, it's my ethnicity not yours. i know that i am only roughly half european, its not a big deal to me. why do you niggas care so much? xD i am obviously part european, i am not denying any part of my european ancestry, i dont hate europeans either, i know i am white, or part white whatever you want to call it.


still most tests clearly show me to be about equal non-european to european, or slightly less so non-european than european.


here you go, my last gift to you take it and PLEASE for the love of god stop commenting on this thread, yall are giving me a srs headache and your keeping me from doing things that are more productive, like doing homework for school that i havent done lmao:



Africa
35.75%
South Europe
15.43%
West Europe
14.89%
North Europe
12.36%
East Europe
11.46%

minor percentages:


3.74% East asia

3.07% south america

2.23% Asia (arab)

1.07% north america


thanks for reading :) now please do fuck off im done arguing with you guys

[Congolese Rice]

Europeans from different countries score different percentages of components on this test.
https://i.imgur.com/LWME5Iql.jpg

If you’re interested to find out more about your ancestry, consider hiring a genealogist later in life.

thanks, but tbh i dont care anymore really. all this arguing got me giving 0 fucks about my ethnicity now, im just not interested anymore lol so dont expect any further posts from me, im done with this shit cuz every time i try to provide them with tests that do show me to be less than 70% european, and it's NOT that i dont want to be 70% european, its because i am not lmao.


but whatever, hope yall have a good day imma take a break from this shit

[Alessio]

He's an attention whore, just ignore him. His denial will take a while.

[Gründig]

ok cool, if i dont know their ethnic breakdown then who are you to say i am 75% european? xD i dont believe a single test. what i would believe is if every test gave me 65%+ european, then i would accept it and i wouldn't even be here arguing with you and that other dutch buy and the turk.

but ok who cares, it's my ethnicity not yours. i know that i am only roughly half european, its not a big deal to me. why do you niggas care so much? xD i am obviously part european, i am not denying any part of my european ancestry, i dont hate europeans either, i know i am white, or part white whatever you want to call it.


still most tests clearly show me to be about equal non-european to european, or slightly less so non-european than european.


here you go, my last gift to you take it and PLEASE for the love of god stop commenting on this thread, yall are giving me a srs headache and your keeping me from doing things that are more productive, like doing homework for school that i havent done lmao:



frica
35.75%
South Europe
15.43%
West Europe
14.89%
North Europe
12.36%
East Europe
11.46%

minor percentages:


3.74% East asia

3.07% south america

2.23% Asia (arab)

1.07% north america


thanks for reading :) now please do fuck off im done arguing with you guys

Your actions speed louder than your words.

You seem to be very much obsessed with your European side. You're losing your shit and threatening to put people in comas because they say your less Arab and more European.....because you're 70% instead of 46.849%......because you don't know how to read the test properly.....

Who are you kidding here?

You talked ALOT of shit on northern Europeans and the Dutch recently.......I think it may have something to do with that.

[Congolese Rice]

Your actions speed louder than your words.

You seem to be very much obsessed with your European side. You're losing your shit and threatening to put people in comas because they say your less Arab and more European.....because you're 70% instead of 46.849%......because you don't know how to read the test properly.....

Who are you kidding here?

You talked ALOT of shit on northern Europeans and the Dutch recently.......I think it may have something to do with that.

lol, if you srsly think that you're retarded. it has nothing 2 do with me talking shit on scandinavians and dutch.

i just dont like the dutch people and culture, and i dont like the way scandinavian women look.

problem?


you speak like me being 70% european is a fact, it isnt so stfu. who are YOU kidding here lmao, you dont know how to read the test properly because im pretty sure world9 gives me 51% european, not 70% wow

infact, not even eurogenes k13 gives me 70% european keep trying.


and no, i never threatened to put ppl in comas because they said i am less arab and more european, i have ALWAYS been more european than arab, i got pissed because people said i was a arab-wannabe, and a obsessed white boy etc etc. stop trolling and foh

you've seen my test results yet you keep on stomping down the so called "fact" that i am 70% european, if thats what you wanna believe bro then go for it. i'll specially be 70% european just for you, how kind am i right? :)

[Congolese Rice]

He's an attention whore, just ignore him. His denial will take a while.

im not a attention whore. im just saying you that i aint 70% european and i am not. however if you want to believe so so badly then go for it i wont stop you. i know better anyway.

[Gründig]

lol, if you srsly think that you're retarded. it has nothing 2 do with me talking shit on scandinavians and dutch.

i just dont like the dutch people and culture, and i dont like the way scandinavian women look.

problem?


you speak like me being 70% european is a fact, it isnt so stfu. who are YOU kidding here lmao, you dont know how to read the test properly because im pretty sure world9 gives me 51% european, not 70% wow

infact, not even eurogenes k13 gives me 70% european keep trying.


and no, i never threatened to put ppl in comas because they said i am less arab and more european, i have ALWAYS been more european than arab, i got pissed because people said i was a arab-wannabe, and a obsessed white boy etc etc. stop trolling and foh

you've seen my test results yet you keep on stomping down the so called "fact" that i am 70% european, if thats what you wanna believe bro then go for it. i'll specially be 70% european just for you, how kind am i right? :)

You confirmed it....You're an obsessed idiot.

Xd

[Congolese Rice]

let me simplify my eurogenes K13 results for people who are too stupid to understand:



Population
North_Atlantic 36.91
Baltic 17.91
West_Med 5.56
West_Asian 1.23
East_Med 4.28
Red_Sea 3.55
South_Asian 1.40
East_Asian 1.58
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.99
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.98
Sub-Saharan 24.56.


North_Atlantic 36.91
Baltic 17.91 + = 54.82% NORTHWESTERN EUROPEAN, yes thats correct.

5.56% west med (berber) + 1.23% + 4.28% + 3.55% + 0.98% + 3.40% = 19% + 1.40% south asian (as ancestryDNA gave me 2-4% afghan or southcentral asian as result) = 20.40%, not even eurogenes gives me 70% european so i dont know where you are coming from.

but whatever it's not important, yall are getting sooo mad over trying to "proof" that i am 70% european, just let it be jesus christ.

[rein]

let me simplify my eurogenes K13 results for people who are too stupid to understand:



Population
North_Atlantic 36.91
Baltic 17.91
West_Med 5.56
West_Asian 1.23
East_Med 4.28
Red_Sea 3.55
South_Asian 1.40
East_Asian 1.58
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.99
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.98
Sub-Saharan 24.56.


North_Atlantic 36.91
Baltic 17.91 + = 54.82% NORTHWESTERN EUROPEAN, yes thats correct.

5.56% west med (berber) + 1.23% + 4.28% + 3.55% + 0.98% + 3.40% = 19% + 1.40% south asian (as ancestryDNA gave me 2-4% afghan or southcentral asian as result) = 20.40%, not even eurogenes gives me 70% european so i dont know where you are coming from.

but whatever it's not important, yall are getting sooo mad over trying to "proof" that i am 70% european, just let it be jesus christ.

I think West Med is a Spanish/Basque component. So your European components are up to 60% on this test. Mine are 50%

[Alessio]

let me simplify my eurogenes K13 results for people who are too stupid to understand:



Population
North_Atlantic 36.91
Baltic 17.91
West_Med 5.56
West_Asian 1.23
East_Med 4.28
Red_Sea 3.55
South_Asian 1.40
East_Asian 1.58
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.99
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.98
Sub-Saharan 24.56.


North_Atlantic 36.91
Baltic 17.91 + = 54.82% NORTHWESTERN EUROPEAN, yes thats correct.

5.56% west med (berber) + 1.23% + 4.28% + 3.55% + 0.98% + 3.40% = 19% + 1.40% south asian (as ancestryDNA gave me 2-4% afghan or southcentral asian as result) = 20.40%, not even eurogenes gives me 70% european so i dont know where you are coming from.

but whatever it's not important, yall are getting sooo mad over trying to "proof" that i am 70% european, just let it be jesus christ.

Now you're beginning to look extremely silly..

:picard2: :picard1: :speechless-smiley-0:icon12:

Please don't make even a worse a fool of yourself and just stop.. gewoon kappen ermee gappie.

[Congolese Rice]

You confirmed it....You're an obsessed idiot.

Xd

lmao tell me, how did i confirm that i am a "obsessed idiot" tell me lmao

all i said is that i got pissed because people started going off at me like crazy only because of my K13 results. no wonder i am going to defend myself.

eurogenes K13 doesnt give me 70% european, it gives me 54% or something.

call me obsessed all you want, i know i am not. your words do nothing to me xd


you call me obsessed for trying to proof you otherwise, ok cool. what a nice logic you europeans have, all retards. If you can 100% proof to me that i am above 70% european then i will accept that how about that :) so far you havent proved anything besides ranting about my K13 results, that'll get you far in proving that i am 70% euro.


infact, i dont even care about my euro percentage. you guys seem to give more fucks about my ethnicity than that i do, how sad xD who's obsessed now lmao

[Congolese Rice]

I think West Med is a Spanish/Basque component. So your European components are up to 60% on this test. Mine are 50%

oh, lol. someone told me that berber was a mix of red sea, east med, and west med on this test. but ok. then it's 60% i dont care really xD i really dont care if i am 60% european, 70% european, 10% european, 40% european but i dont like it when people bullshit me.

[Zuh]

Yemeni you and i are berbers :)

[Alessio]

Do you suffer from schizophrenia or do you just have OCD and narcissism? Je bent best wel een maf ventje eigenlijk vind ik, wannabe Mokro xD Welke Nederlander/Antiliaan wilt er nou een Mokro zijn hahahaha. Oké liever een Mokro als een Anti dat dan weer wél.

[rein]

oh, lol. someone told me that berber was a mix of red sea, east med, and west med on this test. but ok. then it's 60% i dont care really xD i really dont care if i am 60% european, 70% european, 10% european, 40% european but i dont like it when people bullshit me.

Berbers also score quite highly of this component - approx 20%, but it peaks in French Basque at 35%.

You should look up the reference populations on these tests.

[Gründig]

lmao tell me, how did i confirm that i am a "obsessed idiot" tell me lmao

all i said is that i got pissed because people started going off at me like crazy only because of my K13 results. no wonder i am going to defend myself.

eurogenes K13 doesnt give me 70% european, it gives me 54% or something.

call me obsessed all you want, i know i am not. your words do nothing to me xd


you call me obsessed for trying to proof you otherwise, ok cool. what a nice logic you europeans have, all retards. If you can 100% proof to me that i am above 70% european then i will accept that how about that :) so far you havent proved anything besides ranting about my K13 results, that'll get you far in proving that i am 70% euro.


infact, i dont even care about my euro percentage. you guys seem to give more fucks about my ethnicity than that i do, how sad xD who's obsessed now lmao

:picard2:

O B S E S S E D

[Congolese Rice]

Now you're beginning to look extremely silly..

:picard2: :picard1: :speechless-smiley-0:icon12:

Please don't make even a worse a fool of yourself and just stop.. gewoon kappen ermee gappie.

ok ik ben 100% europees, is dat wat je wil horen? klaar nu opkankeren jezus christus xd mongolen hier

[Congolese Rice]

Berbers also score quite highly of this component - approx 20%, but it peaks in French Basque at 35%.

You should look up the reference populations on these tests.

Ohh, ok i will lol. if i care enough, apparently according to these people i am 70% european, so it must be true right? :) because 2 people say so its a fact.

[Congolese Rice]

:picard2:

O B S E S S E D

yes i am 100% obsessed with my ethnicity, i dont think about anything else throughout the day, when im eating i think "ethnicity" when i am showering i think "ethnicity" when i am walking the dog i think "i am not european at all, i am 100% non-white" you are correct, and so is your dutch buddy over here.

you seem to be very knowledgable on the term obsessed, please bestow your knowledge upon me so i can learn


:)

[Zuh]

فقط تجاهلهم

[rein]

Ohh, ok i will lol. if i care enough, apparently according to these people i am 70% european, so it must be true right? :) because 2 people say so its a fact.

Just identify as a mix of what your parents identify as, as its more important than these tests.

[rein]

فقط تجاهلهم


What does that say?

[Congolese Rice]

Just identify as a mix of what your parents identify as, as its more important than these tests.

i have always said on this forum that i identify as a "afro-caribbean" or if people asked me to go indepth "arab-caribbean" now i figured out i am not arab but berber. people are still hating, i dont care really, i am afro-caribbean they can call me dutch white boy whatever they want i'm still a antillean.

[Alessio]

Well your top matches at GEDmatch are in fact of Dutch ancestry..Even that first one who shares around 35 cM with you and the ones that follow also have Dutch names in their e-mail and their matching-list. From this I can already see your Dutch ancestry is higher than your British (I'd bet it's neglegible) because GEDmatch is full of Brits, Irish and Scotts due to the majority of tested people are from the US and UK; everyone that does genetic genealogy knows this fact. Don't hate yourself boy, Dutch people are in fact very nice and hospitable people and this is reflected by all the foreigners and quadroons walking around with a loud mouth. Just accept your roots as they're nothing to be ashamed of. I would rather be ashamed of SSA input than anything else.

[rein]

i have always said on this forum that i identify as a "afro-caribbean" or if people asked me to go indepth "arab-caribbean" now i figured out i am not arab but berber. people are still hating, i dont care really, i am afro-caribbean they can call me dutch white boy whatever they want i'm still a antillean.

Afro-Carribean sounds fine.

[Congolese Rice]

فقط تجاهلهم


its not like me to ignore people, i just respond to comments i get.


ok so what, i am not arab, i am partially berber big deal. apparently its a HUGE deal cause they go on to assault me call me stupid a idiot a obsessed white guy etc. i dont care really.

at the end of the day i will always be a afro-caribbean, with or without the berber. with or without the 70% european, i dont give a damn.

[Congolese Rice]

Afro-Carribean sounds fine.

yeah it is. i am afro-caribbean, thats the only thing i truly identify with, not my arab/berber, not my european, not my amerindian. lmao.

[Congolese Rice]

Well your top matches at GEDmatch are in fact of Dutch ancestry..Even that first one who shares around 35 cM with you and the ones that follow also have Dutch names in their e-mail and their matching-list. From this I can already see your Dutch ancestry is higher than your British because GEDmatch is full of Brits, Irish and Scotts; everyone that does genetic genealogy knows this fact. Don't hate yourself boy, Dutch people are in fact very nice and hospitable people and this is reflected by all the foreigners and quadroons walking around with a loud mouth. Just accept your roots as they're nothing to be ashamed of. I would rather be ashamed of SSA input than anything else.

OK, it's cool. so what, ok i am partially dutch, it's not a big deal. My british percentage is btw also only 12.5% or something in that area. my european just isnt that high.

and i dont hate myself, i appreciate myself and every bit of my ethnicity, but you guys are giving me a massive headache by consistently saying i am 70% european, a dutch boy, a white boy, listen man im not in the mood for that shit. a family member of mine recently died and tomorrow ill go to their crimation of whatever you call it.

so a bunch of guys on a forum insulting me and forcing me to accept that i am 70% which is not true is the last thing i want or need.


sure, dutch people can be very nice, some are very hospitable. some are also nasty racists and i know this.

its weird because i have no other dutch ancestors other than my great great grandfather. maybe my father's side is partially dutch im not sure. germans and dutch are almost indistinguishable anyway..

[Alessio]

Yeah as long as it isn't Dutch right?? This is soooo Dutch, to not be proud of one's ancestry, this is the funniest thing about partially Dutch people ever. They don't realize it's part of the protestant character which influenced the Netherlands significantly. Then being anything Afro is seen as interesting, mainly because of popular media - also this way you can feel yourself ''special'' in some way because you're somewhat exotic. The fact is that almost no one in this world knows Aruba and the ones that know Aruba, know that it is an island which was used as a dumping place for slaves that had to work the fields (sad little piece of history). Also there are huge social problems in Aruba as well as Curacao. On the other hand the Netherlands is extremely famous and respected for it's achievements all over the world! (yes, I know it's still part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands).

[Gründig]

Yeah as long as it isn't Dutch right?? This is soooo Dutch, to not be proud of one's ancestry, this is the funniest thing about partially Dutch people ever. They don't realize it's part of the protestant character which influenced the Netherlands significantly. Then being anything Afro is seen as interesting, mainly because of popular media - also this way you can feel yourself ''special'' in some way because you're somewhat exotic. The fact is that almost no one in this world knows Aruba. ON the other hand the Netherlands is extremely famous respected for it's achievements all over the world!

These "exotic wannabes" are what you call mentally retarded.

[Congolese Rice]

Yeah as long as it isn't Dutch right?? This is soooo Dutch, to not be proud of one's ancestry, this is the funniest thing about partially Dutch people ever. They don't realize it's part of the protestant character which influenced the Netherlands significantly.

aye, to be honest with you beforehand i didn't even realize i was strongly partially dutch. i didnt check my DNA matches like that, i usually just compared my DNA to moroccans, latinos, and hispanics etc to see how much DNA i shared with them.

even if i am partially dutch i dont even know how much it is. and no, definitely not all of my european is dutch, or 70%. my european side is very mixed too just like the rest of my ethnicity. i agree with you the fact that i might be part dutch. but not 70%.


what i can conclude from all my tests is that i am roughly 45-57% european, MyGenomeBox says i am 54% european, many gedmatch tests say i am around 49% or 52% european, DNA.LAND gives me 54% european i think. why is it so difficult for you guys to agree that i am not 70% european? 1 test cannot conclude that, i send you plenty of other tests yet you COMPLETELY ignore those results. its just frustrating.

[Congolese Rice]

These "exotic wannabes" are what you call mentally retarded.

lol, to clarify i am definitely not a exotic-wannabe. i have never been a "wannabe" because all i wanted to find out about my ethnicity was the truth. you guys didnt help me discover it you only insulted me for this and that and tried to force the believe upon me that i am 70% european. who cares if i am or not, i am afro-caribbean. mind your own damn business.

[Zuh]

Arab berber mestizo pride!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dandelion]

Yeah as long as it isn't Dutch right?? This is soooo Dutch, to not be proud of one's ancestry, this is the funniest thing about partially Dutch people ever. They don't realize it's part of the protestant character which influenced the Netherlands significantly. Then being anything Afro is seen as interesting, mainly because of popular media - also this way you can feel yourself ''special'' in some way because you're somewhat exotic. The fact is that almost no one in this world knows Aruba. ON the other hand the Netherlands is extremely famous respected for it's achievements all over the world!

Een echte Nederlander kankert graag op zijn kikkerlandje, maar hij houdt er wel van. :) Gelukkig ben jij trots op zowel je Zuid-Italiaanse als Noord-Nederlandse afkomsten. Dat kan ook.

[Gründig]

lol, to clarify i am definitely not a exotic-wannabe. i have never been a "wannabe" because all i wanted to find out about my ethnicity was the truth. you guys didnt help me discover it you only insulted me for this and that and tried to force the believe upon me that i am 70% european. who cares if i am or not, i am afro-caribbean. mind your own damn business.

70% or 69.5454%?

[Congolese Rice]

Arab berber mestizo pride!!!!!!!!!!!

lol, i'll always be proud of being afro-caribbean, european, berber, amerindian, etc everything.


i KNOW i am not 70% european because doug mcdonald said so, plus my chromosome painting says otherwise too, but yknow. who am i to judge people their opinions.

im proud of being afro-caribbean lmao thats all i can say :P

[Congolese Rice]

70% or 69.5454%?

neither, roughly 45-57%.

[Congolese Rice]

Een echte Nederlander kankert graag op zijn kikkerlandje, maar hij houdt er wel van. :) Gelukkig ben jij trots op zowel je Zuid-Italiaanse als Noord-Nederlandse afkomsten. Dat kan ook.

ik ben trots op al mijn afkomsten, maar zeggen dat ik 70% europees ben is gwn niet correct. dat is alles, natuurlijk ben ik deels nederlands omdat mijn moeder's kant dat ook is. het zou raar zijn als ik letterlijk 0% van die 6% ofzo heb geerft.


ik ben gwn half europees, en daar ben ik trots op. toen ik een kind was was ik altijd trots op mijn duitse en ierse afkomst nadat mijn vader mij dat had verteld. niks mis mee.

[Zuh]

lol, i'll always be proud of being afro-caribbean, european, berber, amerindian, etc everything.


i KNOW i am not 70% european because doug mcdonald said so, plus my chromosome painting says otherwise too, but yknow. who am i to judge people their opinions.

im proud of being afro-caribbean lmao thats all i can say :P

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?253245-Where-do-i-fit-better

[Dandelion]

Wat ook symptomatisch is voor het gebrek aan trots bij sommige Nederlanders (en het is vaak erger bij Vlamingen).

Ik heb onlangs een Nederlander gesproken (op het internet) die niet begreep waarom Vlamingen 'Nederlands' als taal hebben omdat het gebaseerd is op een standaardtaal die ontwikkeld werd in Holland in de late 16de eeuw. Die kerel gaf rare argumenten als 'waarom een taal spreken van een cultuur die niets voorstelt als de Nederlandse?' Walgelijk gewoon. Gelukkig behoort hij tot een minderheid van zelfhaters. ;)

Maar dat is niet wat ik hier zie, ik wil dit gewoon even delen dat er rare personen in de wereld bestaan. :)

[Congolese Rice]

Wat ook symptomatisch is voor het gebrek aan trots bij sommige Nederlanders (en het is vaak erger bij Vlamingen).

Ik heb onlangs een Nederlander gesproken (op het internet) die niet begreep waarom Vlamingen 'Nederlands' als taal hebben omdat het gebaseerd is op een standaardtaal die ontwikkeld werd in Holland in the late 16de eeuw. Die kerel gaf rare argumenten als 'waarom een taal spreken van een cultuur die niets voorstelt als de Nederlandse?' Walgelijk gewoon. Gelukkig behoort hij tot een minderheid van zelfhaters. ;)

Maar dat is niet wat ik hier zie, ik wil dit gewoon even delen dat er rare personen in de wereld bestaan. :)

tja, dat is waar.

ik heb nooit gezegt dat ik niet europees was toch en dat ik er niet trots op was. maar ik ga er niet mee akkoord dat ik meer dan 70% europees ben, anders had ik dat allang terug gezien op meeste testen, als zelfs het niet elke test was. De minder gemixed je bent, de makkelijker het is voor die "Calculators" om jouw afkomst te berekenen, en dus zul je makkelijker zien wat je bent. Elke test geeft mij andere resultaten, maar op geen 1 test heb ik ooit 70% europees gescoort. nou dat zegt al genoeg.

Ja, misschien 60%, of 61% maximaal. maar dat is geen 70%. als ik terug kijk naar al mijn resultaten dan kan ik alsnog concluderen dat ik <60% europees ben. niks mis mee, ik heb opzich wel respect voor die Alessio hoor. hij lijkt mij een goede genealoog maar gwn al dat trollen enzo en mij uitschelden en shit daar had ik vandaag gewoon geen zin in.

het gaat al niet zo goed met mijn familie, jaar geleden ofzo mijn moeder overleden, daarna mijn opa, nu weer iemand in mijn familie. 2 van mijn tantes zijn aardig ziek. Daarom wil ik gwn serieus genomen worden en niet een stelletje trolls mij een beetje 70% europees noemen "white boy" "obsessed boy" etc, snap je?

[Alessio]

Een echte Nederlander kankert graag op zijn kikkerlandje, maar hij houdt er wel van. :) Gelukkig ben jij trots op zowel je Zuid-Italiaanse als Noord-Nederlandse afkomsten. Dat kan ook.

Ja, dat is deels waar. Al ken ik er extreem veel Nederlanders die én zeuren over het ''koude kikkerlandje'' én iets wat ook maar doet denken aan chauvinisme totaal niet dulden; doe maar gewoon dan doe je gek genoeg en soberheid als levensstijl! Jezelf uitlaten over echt trots zijn op je land wordt snel aangezien als nationalistisch (rechts) PVV gedrag. Maar waar ik vooral op doelde zijn de deels buitenlands, deels Nederlandse Nederlanders. Deze verkiezen vaak hun niet-Nederlandse kant boven hun Nederlandse kant en gedragen zich hiernaar (behalve de hogeropgeleide); dit patroon is vooral vaak te zien bij (deels) donkere mensen.

[Congolese Rice]

Ja, dat is deels waar. Al ken ik er extreem veel Nederlanders die én zeuren over het ''koude kikkerlandje'' én iets wat ook maar doet denken aan chauvinisme totaal niet dulden; doe maar gewoon dan doe je gek genoeg en soberheid als levensstijl! Jezelf uitlaten over echt trots zijn op je land wordt snel aangezien als nationalistisch PVV gedrag. Maar waar ik vooral op doelde zijn de deels buitenlands, deels Nederlandse Nederlanders. Deze verkiezen vaak hun niet-Nederlandse kant boven hun Nederlandse kant en gedragen zich hiernaar (behalve de hogeropgeleide); dit patroon is vooral vaak te zien bij (deels) donkere mensen.

tja, natuurlijk als je deels buitenlands ben ben je daar trots op. ik had nooit echt door dat ik zo veel deels nederlands zou zijn. maar ewaja. als het zo is dan ben ik er trots op. ik ben hier opgegroeit, ik heb wel wat nederlandse vrienden, ongv 4 of 5. de rest allemaal buitenlanders XD

en ja, verder voel ik me gwn niet echt "connected" tot de nederlandse cultuur, ik vind het gwn niet interessant, en ik vind het persoonlijk niet veel om trots op te zijn want ik voel me niet nederlands. zeker nederlanders zijn echt hardwerkende mensen en ze zijn ook rechtvaardig maar ik voel me niet echt als een nederlander lol. verder ben ik wel opzich trots op me europese kant haha. toen ik een kind was wou ik altijd duits of iers zijn, ik had zelfs zo'n duits zelfleerboek gekocht. dus denk niet dat ik perse niet europees wil zijn ofzo haha, ik weet dat ik het ben.

[Gründig]

neither, roughly 45-57%.

not 71%?

[Congolese Rice]

not 71%?

Hmmm, maybe 85.853%. who knows :^)


tbh man, i really dont feel like arguing and fighting with you guys anymore. i have enough problems with my family irl already, like two of my aunts are sick, a family member of mine died, my aunts still are having problems that their sister is gone (my mother) and yeah, their father passed away a few months ago aswell so it's just hard times here.

i aint have no hard feelings against you but im just not in the mood for people who wanna call me a "white boy" or "obsessed" or a "70% white kid". i know who and what i am but i just dont wanna argue about it.

ill leave you in your worth, i hope you'll leave me in my worth.

[Gründig]

Hmmm, maybe 85.853%. who knows :^)


tbh man, i really dont feel like arguing and fighting with you guys anymore. i have enough problems with my family irl already, like two of my aunts are sick, a family member of mine died, my aunts still are having problems that their sister is gone (my mother) and yeah, their father passed away a few months ago aswell so it's just hard times here.

i aint have no hard feelings against you but im just not in the mood for people who wanna call me a "white boy" or "obsessed" or a "70% white kid". i know who and what i am but i just dont wanna argue about it.

ill leave you in your worth, i hope you'll leave me in my worth.

fair enough.

[Aren]

lmao, i never fucking said europeans score 100% euro. they definitely dont score 49% or 52% either, unless they are MIXED. good job you figured something new out today, i am proud of you go celebrate it

So why would you be only 50% European then? If the Average Dutch scores 70% "Euro" with your method then you are 50/70= 71% European.
But you are not telling us everything. What does your mother score have she gotten tested?

[Gründig]

So why would you be only 50% European then? If the Average Dutch scores 70% "Euro" with your method then you are 50/70= 71% European.
But you are not telling us everything. What does your mother score have she gotten tested?

I asked before, she hasnt.

[Alessio]

lol, i'll always be proud of being afro-caribbean, european, berber, amerindian, etc everything.


i KNOW i am not 70% european because doug mcdonald said so, plus my chromosome painting says otherwise too, but yknow. who am i to judge people their opinions.

im proud of being afro-caribbean lmao thats all i can say :P

Doug told me I was probably part Sepharic Jewish and the rest Northwestern Euro :p He is just overly cautious and doesn't really look at IBD-matches but just runs your RAW data through one of his calculators spits out a few vague PCA's and that's it. Those on GEDmatch did a much better job. Anyway he's a fossil now.

[Congolese Rice]

aye, to be honest with you beforehand i didn't even realize i was strongly partially dutch. i didnt check my DNA matches like that, i usually just compared my DNA to moroccans, latinos, and hispanics etc to see how much DNA i shared with them.

even if i am partially dutch i dont even know how much it is. and no, definitely not all of my european is dutch, or 70%. my european side is very mixed too just like the rest of my ethnicity. i agree with you the fact that i might be part dutch. but not 70%.


what i can conclude from all my tests is that i am roughly 45-57% european, MyGenomeBox says i am 54% european, many gedmatch tests say i am around 49% or 52% european, DNA.LAND gives me 54% european i think. why is it so difficult for you guys to agree that i am not 70% european? 1 test cannot conclude that, i send you plenty of other tests yet you COMPLETELY ignore those results. its just frustrating.



oh, mirror trees? dats opzich wel cool. ik check het straks wel ff uit om te kijken hoe dat werkt. verder, ik ben niet zo goed in genealogie. ik doe vaak alleen maar testen en ik vraag mijn familie leden wat voor achternamen we hebben en waar mijn familie leden geboren zijn. voor de rest weet ik niet 100% mijn afkomst, maar duidend uit mijn onderzoek weet ik ongv dit:

47-57% europees

21% west afrikaan, 4-27% berber, dat weet ik nog niet zeker.

2-4% arabisch

2-4% Taino/indiaan. voor de rest tja, ik kijk wel. ik vraag mijn tante nog wel FF of ze die test kan doen voordat ik terug ga naar nederland, dan weten jullie ook 100% wat ik ben qua europese kant en dan weet ik dat ook.

[Congolese Rice]

Doug told me I was probably part Sepharic Jewish and the rest Northwestern Euro :p He is just overy cautious and doesn't look at IBD-matches at all. He's a fossil now.

ohh.. well i dont know, chromosome paintings probably dont lie, there is definitely SOME MENA influence in my DNA atleast, i just dont know exactly how much. it could be 10-22%, it could be 14-33%, all i know is that it's there.

[Congolese Rice]

So why would you be only 50% European then? If the Average Dutch scores 70% "Euro" with your method then you are 50/70= 71% European.
But you are not telling us everything. What does your mother score have she gotten tested?

??? idk mayn, but i calculated my average european over almost all tests on gedmatch, to be exact 24 tests on gedmatch, and 2 tests outside of gedmatch and my average was 49.50% european.

i personally think i am more in the 52-55% range though.

[Congolese Rice]

I asked before, she hasnt.

nope. unfortunately ill never get to test my mom either because she passed away 2 years ago, so i guess i'll have to ask one of her sisters to see. :T

[Aren]

??? idk mayn, but i calculated my average european over almost all tests on gedmatch, to be exact 24 tests on gedmatch, and 2 tests outside of gedmatch and my average was 49.50% european.

i personally think i am more in the 52-55% range though.

But what did you include as European? Just the typical Northern Euro based components? That's a very dishonest method. You should look at the mixed oracle instead.

Tell us about your parents backgrounds. So far it seems your dad must be fully Northern Euro and your mother could be Dutch/Northern Euro, Spanish, Black with some Amerindian. Is this a common mix in the Dutch Antilles?

[Alessio]

oh, mirror trees? dats opzich wel cool. ik check het straks wel ff uit om te kijken hoe dat werkt. verder, ik ben niet zo goed in genealogie. ik doe vaak alleen maar testen en ik vraag mijn familie leden wat voor achternamen we hebben en waar mijn familie leden geboren zijn. voor de rest weet ik niet 100% mijn afkomst, maar duidend uit mijn onderzoek weet ik ongv dit:

47-57% europees

21% west afrikaan, 4-27% berber, dat weet ik nog niet zeker.

2-4% arabisch

2-4% Taino/indiaan. voor de rest tja, ik kijk wel. ik vraag mijn tante nog wel FF of ze die test kan doen voordat ik terug ga naar nederland, dan weten jullie ook 100% wat ik ben qua europese kant en dan weet ik dat ook.

Vraag je ouders (als dat mogelijk is) naar de namen, geboorte/sterfdata van hun ouders en grootouders. Hiermee kan je verder bouwen via publieke bronnen (wiewaswie.nl bijvoorbeeld in het geval van Nederlanders) en als dat niet lukt kan je een abonnement nemen via Ancestry (wereldwijd als je ook buitenlandse bronnen wilt gebruiken) en daar verder zoeken. Ik heb een stamboom van 1500 verwanten weten te bouwen op basis van alleen wat info over mijn over en deels over-overgrootouders (heb geprobeerd alleen échte verwanten toe te voegen en geen zijtakken van zijtakken etc.)

[Congolese Rice]

But what did you include as European? Just the typical Northern Euro based components? That's a very dishonest method. You should look at the mixed oracle instead.

Tell us about your parents backgrounds. So far it seems your dad must be fully Northern Euro and your mother could be Dutch/Northern Euro, Spanish, Black with some Amerindian. Is this a common mix in the Dutch Antilles?

Uhmm, in Aruba it is. but my mom's family is very mixed, we have ancestors from St Eustatia that were very black, da Costa Gomez was also black with afro-textured hair what i heard from my aunt just now. because i asked her if we had any white people in the family, and she said "no, we only made my grandpa, he was a dutch surinamer, you know?" thats why, the european influence in my mom's family is fairly low, however my grandpa looks very eritrean or arab admixed to me, he doesnt look like a typical nigerian man to say at the least. and considering that both of his parents were black, how does he have straight black hair?

This is my grandpa, could you classify him perhaps?


78340

^ he was fairly old in this picture though, but i think he looks fairly eritrean compared to a nigerian.


and also. if you want me to go very in depth. My mom's family has ancestors from St Eustatia, Jamaica, St Maarten, Curacao, Bonaire, Aruba, and perhaps other places too.

My dad's family is mixed German, british, irish, scottish, french, maybe minor east european, and perhaps minor berber/moor ancestry.


but yeah, about the mix. What's most common for most Aruban people is this:


Spanish, Dutch, Taino/Amerindian, SSA. they are usually roughly half european, 20-30% SSA, and the rest going to Taino.

people from Curacao are more African admixed than Arubans, less european admixed, and less Amerindian.

And people from St Eustatia are probably very black aswell. Most of my mom's family is mixed black and probably east african or berber.


and no, i included the north euro components and mediterranean.

[Congolese Rice]

Vraag je ouders (als dat mogelijk is) naar de namen, geboorte/sterfdata van hun ouders en grootouders. Hiermee kan je verder bouwen via publieke bronnen (wiewaswie.nl bijvoorbeeld in het geval van Nederlanders) en als dat niet lukt kan je een abonnement nemen via Ancestry (wereldwijd als je ook buitenlandse bronnen wilt gebruiken) en daar verder zoeken. Ik heb een stamboom van 1500 verwanten weten te bouwen op basis van alleen wat info over mijn over en deels over-overgrootouders (heb geprobeerd alleen échte verwanten toe te voegen en geen zijtakken van zijtakken etc.)

ik zou mijn vader en tantes aan mijn moeders kant vragen ja, misschien kom ik er dan achter of ik werkelijk 1/4 of 1/3rde berber ben of niet. in ieder geval zou ik wel kijken hoe ik dit ga oppakken haha. Het zou in iedergeval wel cool zijn als ik toch idd 1/4 of 1/3 berber ben,ik vind het gwn cool om deel te zijn van meerdere culturen. ik ben niet geobsesseerd met mijn afkomst ik ben gwn super nieuwschierig lol.


maar in iedergeval, alsnog bedankt. ondanks ik jullie de tering in heb gescholden. dit is niet mijn beste dag haha


edit: en ja dat's waar. meestal respecteer ik iemands mening wel maar vandaag was gwn in algemeen best wel een kut dag om t maar zo te zeggen haha. in iedergeval we zien wel nadat mijn tante die test heeft gedaan en nadat ik zo'n mirror tree dinges heb als ik werkelijk 70% europees ben of niet. mensen zijn altijd vast in hun mening dat ik er niet europees uit zie. ik vraag ook vaak aan nederlanders of ze wat nederlands of europees in mij zien. ook nederlanders die veel met arabieren en perzen omgaan. Die zeggen vaak "Nee, jij lijkt eerder op een Marokkaan of iemand uit Iran" lol.

[Congolese Rice]

thanks for the condolences alessio and aren btw. haha

[Alessio]

Uhmm, in Aruba it is. but my mom's family is very mixed, we have ancestors from St Eustatia that were very black, da Costa Gomez was also black with afro-textured hair what i heard from my aunt just now. because i asked her if we had any white people in the family, and she said "no, we only made my grandpa, he was a dutch surinamer, you know?" thats why, the european influence in my mom's family is fairly low, however my grandpa looks very eritrean or arab admixed to me, he doesnt look like a typical nigerian man to say at the least. and considering that both of his parents were black, how does he have straight black hair?

This is my grandpa, could you classify him perhaps?


78340

^ he was fairly old in this picture though, but i think he looks fairly eritrean compared to a nigerian.


and also. if you want me to go very in depth. My mom's family has ancestors from St Eustatia, Jamaica, St Maarten, Curacao, Bonaire, Aruba, and perhaps other places too.

My dad's family is mixed German, british, irish, scottish, french, maybe minor east european, and perhaps minor berber/moor ancestry.


but yeah, about the mix. What's most common for most Aruban people is this:


Spanish, Dutch, Taino/Amerindian, SSA. they are usually roughly half european, 20-30% SSA, and the rest going to Taino.

people from Curacao are more African admixed than Arubans, less european admixed, and less Amerindian.

And people from St Eustatia are probably very black aswell. Most of my mom's family is mixed black and probably east african or berber.


and no, i included the north euro components and mediterranean.

Clearly he was partially white/Dutch(?) hence his phenotype leaning towards what you call ''East Africa'', although I don't agree with this observation. Yes Aruba is full of Dutch people, as it has lots of resorts for rich Dutch folks as well as numerous villa's.

[Congolese Rice]

@alessio


en ja dat ZOU kunnen, hij zou sws wat europees moeten hebben. maar hij ziet er niet super typisch west afrikaans uit, toen ik hem voor het laatst zag in het echt had hij geen platte neus, hij heeft een grote wijde neus maar hij heeft zo'n "hooked" shape zoals dat in arabieren en berbers, niet typische west afrikanen. Misschien is dat ook het europese invloed maar waarschijnlijk ook mijn supposed "berber" invloed misschien.

in iedergeval mijn familie blijft altijd sterk en ja ik ga sws wel me tantes vragen of ze me kunnen helpen

[Congolese Rice]

Clearly he was partially white/Dutch hence his phenotype leaning towards what you call ''East Africa'', although I don't agree with this observation. Yes Aruba is full of Dutch people, as it has lots of resorts for rich Dutch folks as well as numerous villa's.

well yeah, he could easily be part dutch for all i know, both of his parents were black with afro-textured hair though. maybe it was minor dutch ancestry, like 10 or 20%. but enough to make a difference in his phenotype. and IF, only IF the berber side is from his part of the family, it could also make more sense why he looks like this. im not saying hes part berber but there is a possiblity, you never know with my family they are super mixed.

[Aren]

Uhmm, in Aruba it is. but my mom's family is very mixed, we have ancestors from St Eustatia that were very black, da Costa Gomez was also black with afro-textured hair what i heard from my aunt just now. because i asked her if we had any white people in the family, and she said "no, we only made my grandpa, he was a dutch surinamer, you know?" thats why, the european influence in my mom's family is fairly low, however my grandpa looks very eritrean or arab admixed to me, he doesnt look like a typical nigerian man to say at the least. and considering that both of his parents were black, how does he have straight black hair?

This is my grandpa, could you classify him perhaps?


78340

^ he was fairly old in this picture though, but i think he looks fairly eritrean compared to a nigerian.


and also. if you want me to go very in depth. My mom's family has ancestors from St Eustatia, Jamaica, St Maarten, Curacao, Bonaire, Aruba, and perhaps other places too.

My dad's family is mixed German, british, irish, scottish, french, maybe minor east european, and perhaps minor berber/moor ancestry.


but yeah, about the mix. What's most common for most Aruban people is this:


Spanish, Dutch, Taino/Amerindian, SSA. they are usually roughly half european, 20-30% SSA, and the rest going to Taino.

people from Curacao are more African admixed than Arubans, less european admixed, and less Amerindian.

And people from St Eustatia are probably very black aswell. Most of my mom's family is mixed black and probably east african or berber.


and no, i included the north euro components and mediterranean.

I guess in his younger years he would've looked quite mixed but more on the white side. Not sure if you can tell if hes part white or part Arab/North African though. He could easily be triracial but more on the white side. But from your MLDP K23b 4 way oracle you got a good fit with basically 50% North Euro(Latvian/Swedish) and 25% Puerto Rican for your non-Black side. Now Dutch and Brits are slightly more Med shifted than Latvians/Swedes which is why it's a good fit since the Spanish part in Puerto Ricans act as a proxy for the Med shift.
And I guess it's your maternal grandfather that you owe your Puerto Rican-like ancestry.

[Alessio]

ik zou mijn vader en tantes aan mijn moeders kant vragen ja, misschien kom ik er dan achter of ik werkelijk 1/4 of 1/3rde berber ben of niet. in ieder geval zou ik wel kijken hoe ik dit ga oppakken haha. Het zou in iedergeval wel cool zijn als ik toch idd 1/4 of 1/3 berber ben,ik vind het gwn cool om deel te zijn van meerdere culturen. ik ben niet geobsesseerd met mijn afkomst ik ben gwn super nieuwschierig lol.


maar in iedergeval, alsnog bedankt. ondanks ik jullie de tering in heb gescholden. dit is niet mijn beste dag haha

Ja, multiculti heeft ook wel zijn charme. Probleem alleen is dat bepaalde populaties relatief makkelijk van elkaar te onderscheiden zijn. Zelfs in Italië heb je 5 ''genetische populaties'' die relatief makkelijk van elkaar te onderscheiden zijn (noord/zuid extreem makkelijk en ook Sardinië is een peulenschil). Ik ben half Zuid Italiaans/Nederlands en dit is ook kinderspel, aangezien ik een East Med component hebt die nagenoeg absent is in mijn moeder en opa en een significant hogere West Asian score heb. Berber/Noord Afrikaans is helemaal easy vergeleken het hierboven genoemde.

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[Congolese Rice]

Ja, multiculti heeft ook wel zijn charme. Probleem alleen is dat bepaalde populaties relatief makkelijk van elkaar te onderscheiden zijn. Zelfs in Italië heb je 5 ''genetische populaties'' die relatief makkelijk van elkaar te onderscheiden zijn. Ik ben half Zuid Italiaans/Nederlands en dit is ook kinderspel, aangezien ik een East Med component hebt die compleet absent is in mijn moeder en opa en een hogere West Asian score heb.






ja dat is waar. In mijn geval is het best wel moeilijk om alles te onderscheiden van elkaar want ik weet niet eens van welke kant van de familie het kan zijn XD

maar in iedergeval wat ik wel zie is dat ik redelijk wat "MENA" scoor op de meeste testen (als we eurogenes er buiten laten) en verder ja, sterk noordwest europees, meestal Duits, brits, iers, en scots. soms ook Spaans of Tuscany, ik denk dat dat in italie ligt xD

maar als ik jou zou kunnen vragen. waar moet je voor uit kijken als je naar "Berberse" afkomst kijkt? hogere hoeveelheden van mediterraans, west aziatisch/arabisch, en east med? offf wat denk jij. aangezien ik duidelijk niet 1/3 arabier ben, anders zou ik inderdaad 27% of gwn 33% scoren voor "Near Eastern" dus ja. zoals Doug McDonald zei denk ik dat hij wel gelijk heeft dat mijn midden oosters berber is, en niet levantijns, arabisch, of west aziatisch. Vaak scoor ik hoger west aziatisch dan arabisch ook XD ik weet niet eens hoe ik zo dom was om te denken dat ik letterlijk 1/3 arabier was, eigenlijk best wel dom. 1/3 berber zou zelfs dichter bij de waarheid zijn

[Alessio]

ja dat is waar. In mijn geval is het best wel moeilijk om alles te onderscheiden van elkaar want ik weet niet eens van welke kant van de familie het kan zijn XD

maar in iedergeval wat ik wel zie is dat ik redelijk wat "MENA" scoor op de meeste testen (als we eurogenes er buiten laten) en verder ja, sterk noordwest europees, meestal Duits, brits, iers, en scots. soms ook Spaans of Tuscany, ik denk dat dat in italie ligt xD

maar als ik jou zou kunnen vragen. waar moet je voor uit kijken als je naar "Berberse" afkomst kijkt? hogere hoeveelheden van mediterraans, west aziatisch/arabisch, en east med? offf wat denk jij. aangezien ik duidelijk niet 1/3 arabier ben, anders zou ik inderdaad 27% of gwn 33% scoren voor "Near Eastern" dus ja. zoals Doug McDonald zei denk ik dat hij wel gelijk heeft dat mijn midden oosters berber is, en niet levantijns, arabisch, of west aziatisch. Vaak scoor ik hoger west aziatisch dan arabisch ook XD ik weet niet eens hoe ik zo dom was om te denken dat ik letterlijk 1/3 arabier was, eigenlijk best wel dom. 1/3 berber zou zelfs dichter bij de waarheid zijn

Berber Eurogenes K13:

Leef jezelf uit!

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 25.87
2 East_Med 23.08
3 North_Atlantic 16.43
4 Red_Sea 14.42
5 Northeast_African 10.94
6 Sub-Saharan 7.45
7 Siberian 1.15
8 Amerindian 0.42
9 Oceanian 0.22
10 East_Asian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moroccan 7.59
2 Algerian 8.25
3 Mozabite_Berber 8.42
4 Tunisian 10.48
5 Algerian_Jewish 20.47
6 West_Sicilian 20.68
7 Libyan_Jewish 21.08
8 East_Sicilian 22.01
9 Tunisian_Jewish 22.23
10 Sephardic_Jewish 22.29
11 Italian_Jewish 22.39
12 Tuscan 22.88
13 South_Italian 22.9
14 Ashkenazi 23.23
15 Egyptian 23.75
16 Italian_Abruzzo 24.02
17 Central_Greek 24.33
18 Greek_Thessaly 25.54
19 North_Italian 25.68
20 Spanish_Extremadura 27.5


Dodecad V3:

dmix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 29.96
2 Northwest_African 28.54
3 West_European 11.82
4 Southwest_Asian 10.57
5 East_African 7.85
6 Neo_African 5.54
7 West_Asian 3.84
8 Palaeo_African 1.38
9 Southeast_Asian 0.5
10 South_Asian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Morocco_N (Henn) 3.98
2 North_African (Dodecad) 7.9
3 TUNISIA (Henn) 10.68
4 Algeria (Henn) 10.78
5 Moroccans (Behar) 15.79
6 Sahara_OCC (Henn) 16.53
7 Libya (Henn) 20.34
8 Morocco_S (Henn) 22.02
9 Egypt (Henn) 27.74
10 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 28.22
11 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 31.42
12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 31.89
13 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 32.12
14 Egyptans (Behar) 32.87
15 Sicilian (Dodecad) 33.77
16 Tuscan (Xing) 34.2
17 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 34.43
18 O_Italian (Dodecad) 34.51
19 Tuscan (Henn) 34.58
20 C_Italian (Dodecad) 34.78

[Congolese Rice]

Berber Eurogenes K13:

Leef jezelf uit!

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 25.87
2 East_Med 23.08
3 North_Atlantic 16.43
4 Red_Sea 14.42
5 Northeast_African 10.94
6 Sub-Saharan 7.45
7 Siberian 1.15
8 Amerindian 0.42
9 Oceanian 0.22
10 East_Asian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moroccan 7.59
2 Algerian 8.25
3 Mozabite_Berber 8.42
4 Tunisian 10.48
5 Algerian_Jewish 20.47
6 West_Sicilian 20.68
7 Libyan_Jewish 21.08
8 East_Sicilian 22.01
9 Tunisian_Jewish 22.23
10 Sephardic_Jewish 22.29
11 Italian_Jewish 22.39
12 Tuscan 22.88
13 South_Italian 22.9
14 Ashkenazi 23.23
15 Egyptian 23.75
16 Italian_Abruzzo 24.02
17 Central_Greek 24.33
18 Greek_Thessaly 25.54
19 North_Italian 25.68
20 Spanish_Extremadura 27.5


Dodecad V3:

dmix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 29.96
2 Northwest_African 28.54
3 West_European 11.82
4 Southwest_Asian 10.57
5 East_African 7.85
6 Neo_African 5.54
7 West_Asian 3.84
8 Palaeo_African 1.38
9 Southeast_Asian 0.5
10 South_Asian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Morocco_N (Henn) 3.98
2 North_African (Dodecad) 7.9
3 TUNISIA (Henn) 10.68
4 Algeria (Henn) 10.78
5 Moroccans (Behar) 15.79
6 Sahara_OCC (Henn) 16.53
7 Libya (Henn) 20.34
8 Morocco_S (Henn) 22.02
9 Egypt (Henn) 27.74
10 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 28.22
11 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 31.42
12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 31.89
13 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 32.12
14 Egyptans (Behar) 32.87
15 Sicilian (Dodecad) 33.77
16 Tuscan (Xing) 34.2
17 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 34.43
18 O_Italian (Dodecad) 34.51
19 Tuscan (Henn) 34.58
20 C_Italian (Dodecad) 34.78

lol dat is cool, ze scoren idd veel mediterraans. dat is waarschijnlijk gemixed Noord afrikaans en italiaans en spaans ofzo though. In iedergeval bedankt, ik doe wel ff wat goed onderzoek om idd te kijken of ik berbers heb of niet, ik ga ook mijn DNA vergelijken met dat van berbers, dus dan zoek ik wat kit numbers op. Wie weet misschien had ik toch gelijk ;)

[Alessio]

lol dat is cool, ze scoren idd veel mediterraans. dat is waarschijnlijk gemixed Noord afrikaans en italiaans en spaans ofzo though. In iedergeval bedankt, ik doe wel ff wat goed onderzoek om idd te kijken of ik berbers heb of niet, ik ga ook mijn DNA vergelijken met dat van berbers, dus dan zoek ik wat kit numbers op. Wie weet misschien had ik toch gelijk ;)

Je hebt al genoeg gedeeld om dat eigenlijk vrijwel uit te sluiten. Ergens in het verre verleden..wie weet..maar dat is amper terug te halen. Er zijn er al zovele gedeeld hier op TA. Je leert dus ook om te kijken naar wat mensen scoren en waar ze precies vandaan komen.

[Congolese Rice]

Je hebt al genoeg gedeeld om dat eigenlijk vrijwel uit te sluiten. Ergens in het verre verleden..wie weet..maar dat is amper terug te halen. Er zijn er al zovele gedeeld hier op TA. Je leert dus ook om te kijken naar wat mensen scoren en waar ze precies vandaan komen.

ja da's true. ik kijk wel als ik matches heb met berbers enzo, en hoeveel mediterraans, arabisch, west aziatisch, enzo ik scoor. sinds jullie zeiden dat mijn europees waarschijnlijk pred. noordwest europees is zou het niet raar zijn als het meeste mediterraans dat ik scoor berber zou kunnen zijn. maar ik zie wel, zo erg maakt het mij niet uit. ik doe wel wat onderzoek en vraag het aan me tantes enz, als ik wat interessants vind dan doe ik je wel misskien een bericht ofzo XD

[Alessio]

lol dat is cool, ze scoren idd veel mediterraans. dat is waarschijnlijk gemixed Noord afrikaans en italiaans en spaans ofzo though. In iedergeval bedankt, ik doe wel ff wat goed onderzoek om idd te kijken of ik berbers heb of niet, ik ga ook mijn DNA vergelijken met dat van berbers, dus dan zoek ik wat kit numbers op. Wie weet misschien had ik toch gelijk ;)

Valt mee, dit is die van mijn moeder (van Nederlandse komaf):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European 56.18
2 Mediterranean 22.71
3 East_European 12.77
4 West_Asian 7.12
5 South_Asian 1.23

Dit is die van mij:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European 37.76
2 Mediterranean 31.96
3 West_Asian 17.61
4 East_European 6.38
5 Southwest_Asian 5.76
6 East_African 0.26
7 Northeast_Asian 0.18
8 South_Asian 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 TSI (HapMap) 8.61
2 Tuscan (Henn) 8.84
3 Tuscan (Xing) 8.93
4 N_Italian (Dodecad) 13.2
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.64
6 French (HGDP) 16.35
7 French (Dodecad) 16.94
8 North_Italian (HGDP) 18.08
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.17
10 Slovenian (Xing) 18.22
11 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.24
12 Portuguese (Dodecad) 18.74
13 CEU (HapMap) 19.01
14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.38
15 N._European (Xing) 19.69
16 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.86
17 Spaniards (Behar) 20.37
18 IBS (1000Genomes) 20.43
19 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 20.8
20 Romanians_14 (Behar) 20.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.7% TSI (HapMap) + 20.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.7
2 54.8% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 45.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.74
3 57.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 42.1% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.1
4 79.2% Tuscan (Xing) + 20.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.11
5 54.2% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 45.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.13
6 70.1% TSI (HapMap) + 29.9% N._European (Xing) @ 2.13
7 80.3% TSI (HapMap) + 19.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.2
8 72.9% Tuscan (Xing) + 27.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.21
9 79.7% Tuscan (Xing) + 20.3% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.24
10 64.8% Orcadian (HGDP) + 35.2% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.24
11 71.3% TSI (HapMap) + 28.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) @ 2.26
12 64.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 35.6% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.27
13 57.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 42.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.29
14 51.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 48.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.34
15 70.6% Tuscan (Xing) + 29.4% Argyll (1000 Genomes) @ 2.45
16 69.5% Tuscan (Xing) + 30.5% N._European (Xing) @ 2.47
17 54.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 45.4% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.53
18 54.6% Greek (Dodecad) + 45.4% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.55
19 67.4% French (Dodecad) + 32.6% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.55
20 72.1% TSI (HapMap) + 27.9% German (Dodecad) @ 2.58

Volboed Zuid Italiaanse en tevens achternicht (V3):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 34.18
2 West_Asian 26.43
3 West_European 19
4 Southwest_Asian 12.14
5 Northwest_African 4.4
6 East_European 3.74
7 Neo_African 0.06
8 Northeast_Asian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 2.8
2 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 3.5
3 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 7.37
4 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 10.91
5 C_Italian (Dodecad) 12.01
6 Tuscan (Xing) 13.03
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 13.29
8 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 13.48
9 Sicilian (Dodecad) 13.51
10 S_Italian (Dodecad) 13.75
11 TSI (HapMap) 13.82
12 Tuscan (Henn) 13.83
13 Greek (Dodecad) 14.48
14 Tuscan (HGDP) 17.8
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 18.74
16 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 19.4
17 Cypriots (Behar) 19.89
18 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 20.68
19 Lebanese (Behar) 20.99
20 Druze (HGDP) 21.15

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 3.4% Georgians (Behar) @ 2.29
2 95.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 4.4% Armenians_16 (Behar) @ 2.38
3 96.7% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 3.3% Adygei (HGDP) @ 2.41
4 97.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 2.9% Lezgins (Behar) @ 2.43
5 95.4% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 4.6% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 2.43
6 96% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 4% Urkarah (Xing) @ 2.52
7 96.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 3.9% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.55
8 95.4% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 4.6% Turks (Behar) @ 2.57
9 96.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 3.5% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 2.57
10 94.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 5.5% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.58
11 95.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 4.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.59
12 98.7% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 1.3% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 2.62
13 96.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 3.9% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.63
14 97% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 3% Iranians (Behar) @ 2.65
15 95.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 4.5% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.66
16 95.9% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 4.1% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.66
17 96.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 3.9% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.67
18 96.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 3.5% Stalskoe (Xing) @ 2.67
19 96.4% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 3.6% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.68
20 96.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 3.5% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.68

[Congolese Rice]

Valt mee, dit is die van mijn moeder (van Nederlandse komaf):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European 56.18
2 Mediterranean 22.71
3 East_European 12.77
4 West_Asian 7.12
5 South_Asian 1.23

Ooo.

well shit lol, het beste in mijn geval zou het vergelijken van DNA zijn dan en mijn test resultaten gwn goed bekijken. want op andere testen dan Eurogenes scoor ik in het algemeen 10-17% Midden Oostenaar, en dan nog meer mediterraans alleen ik weet niet of dat berber is, of van mijn europese kant. tja,

maar ik heb wel dit gevonden. ik heb die cM omlaag gedaan en de SNP ook dus ik weet niet hoe "accuraat" dit zou zijn. maar dit is een marokkaanse berber:

====


Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 250 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
4 30,249,370 34,032,949 3.4 342
7 149,267,437 151,077,013 4.3 331
15 64,220,003 65,837,831 3.6 274
20 54,870,990 55,886,697 3.1 314
Largest segment = 4.3 cM
Total of segments > 3 cM = 14.4 cM
4 matching segments

======

en dit:


Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 250 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
2 23,464,343 28,172,383 3.2 364
8 6,961,460 9,192,957 3.4 278
12 77,176,276 79,812,044 3.1 307
16 14,344,524 17,461,789 4.1 385
18 4,480,289 5,830,255 4.9 298
21 18,635,692 20,230,652 3.1 282
Largest segment = 4.9 cM
Total of segments > 3 cM = 21.8 cM
6 matching segments

397020 SNPs used for this comparison.


^ dit is ook een marokkaanse berber, ik heb deze twee kit numbers gebruikt respectively

T454022

en

T715648

ff verder kijken.

Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
20 6,628,670 7,905,766 3.4 273
Largest segment = 3.4 cM
Total of segments > 3 cM = 3.4 cM
1 matching segments


^ een algerijer met de zelfde SNP en cM, zoals je kan zien scoor ik wel hooger bij de marokkanen lol.


Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 250 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
6 41,582,705 43,840,647 4.9 280
8 72,905,414 75,039,905 3.8 297
11 27,268,390 32,034,079 3.2 302
12 53,605,328 57,794,160 3.4 325
12 83,585,776 90,145,786 3.3 362
17 66,798,276 68,638,727 4.2 363
Largest segment = 4.9 cM
Total of segments > 3 cM = 22.7 cM
6 matching segments


^ een andere algerijer berber, dit is zijn kitnumber M770771


^ wat denk jij? is dit gwn inaccuraat/noise of wat vind jij? aangezien ik de cM op 3 cM heb gezet denk ik niet dat ik het serieus zou moeten nemen. maar 22.5 cm is best wel hoog XD

[mashail]

Making Inbred jokes when he wants to be Arab :clap:

ئه م روژه زور ناخوشه,,كيشه نييه چارهسه ر نه كرى
mashallah am rozah zor nah khwsha bay the way kesha nya charhsar nakreh!!!! so just stop it SMH

[Alessio]

Ooo.

well shit lol, het beste in mijn geval zou het vergelijken van DNA zijn dan en mijn test resultaten gwn goed bekijken. want op andere testen dan Eurogenes scoor ik in het algemeen 10-17% Midden Oostenaar, en dan nog meer mediterraans alleen ik weet niet of dat berber is, of van mijn europese kant. tja,

maar ik heb wel dit gevonden. ik heb die cM omlaag gedaan en de SNP ook dus ik weet niet hoe "accuraat" dit zou zijn. maar dit is een marokkaanse berber:

====


Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 250 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
4 30,249,370 34,032,949 3.4 342
7 149,267,437 151,077,013 4.3 331
15 64,220,003 65,837,831 3.6 274
20 54,870,990 55,886,697 3.1 314
Largest segment = 4.3 cM
Total of segments > 3 cM = 14.4 cM
4 matching segments

======

en dit:


Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 250 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
2 23,464,343 28,172,383 3.2 364
8 6,961,460 9,192,957 3.4 278
12 77,176,276 79,812,044 3.1 307
16 14,344,524 17,461,789 4.1 385
18 4,480,289 5,830,255 4.9 298
21 18,635,692 20,230,652 3.1 282
Largest segment = 4.9 cM
Total of segments > 3 cM = 21.8 cM
6 matching segments

397020 SNPs used for this comparison.


^ dit is ook een marokkaanse berber, ik heb deze twee kit numbers gebruikt respectively

T454022

en

T715648

ff verder kijken.

Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
20 6,628,670 7,905,766 3.4 273
Largest segment = 3.4 cM
Total of segments > 3 cM = 3.4 cM
1 matching segments


^ een algerijer met de zelfde SNP en cM, zoals je kan zien scoor ik wel hooger bij de marokkanen lol.


Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 250 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
6 41,582,705 43,840,647 4.9 280
8 72,905,414 75,039,905 3.8 297
11 27,268,390 32,034,079 3.2 302
12 53,605,328 57,794,160 3.4 325
12 83,585,776 90,145,786 3.3 362
17 66,798,276 68,638,727 4.2 363
Largest segment = 4.9 cM
Total of segments > 3 cM = 22.7 cM
6 matching segments


^ een andere algerijer berber, dit is zijn kitnumber M770771


^ wat denk jij? is dit gwn inaccuraat/noise of wat vind jij? aangezien ik de cM op 3 cM heb gezet denk ik niet dat ik het serieus zou moeten nemen. maar 22.5 cm is best wel hoog XD

Heb er nog een paar bijgezet.

Vanaf 3 cM is te weinig, je moet het op zijn minst op 5 cM zetten.

[Congolese Rice]

Heb er nog een paar bijgezet.

Vanaf 3 cM is te weinig, je moet het op zijn minst op 5 cM zetten.

Ooooh okay, ik ga wel ff verder kijken dan. ik ga nu ff weg me tante weg brengen ajo

[Alessio]

Ooooh okay, ik ga wel ff verder kijken dan. ik ga nu ff weg me tante weg brengen ajo

Ja, leuk geweest weer, ciao!

[mashail]

فقط تجاهلهم

as a middle eastern I understood it I hope he will do !!!!!!!!!!!!
انهم مقززون

[Zuh]

as a middle eastern I understood it I hope he will do !!!!!!!!!!!!
انهم مقززين

To many haters out there sista they need to leave us middle easterns alone!!!

[mashail]

To many haters out there sista they need to leave us middle easterns alone!!!
I am so discusted of their responds to him they are such a bad people and disrespectful he's young but he has a good morals and he's handsome and if he wanna be arab let him be since he score some westasian on him.
I am done with everyone the way they keep attacking him is barbarian,at least he's not a self hater he likes and proud to be mixed arab,euro,berber,black.

[rein]

To many haters out there sista they need to leave us middle easterns alone!!!

Or they shall know the true meaning of Arab wrath!

[mashail]

EVEN IF HE IS 1% ARAB OR LESS HE IS WELCOME TO ARABIA AND NORTH AFRICA SINCE YOUR ANCESTORS WERE APART OF US WHY NOT YOU TOO?

[Zuh]

I am so discusted of their responds to him they are such a bad people and disrespectful he's young but he has a good morals and he's handsome and if he wanna be arab let him be since he score some westasian on him.
I am done with everyone the way they keep attacking him is barbarian,at least he's not a self hater he likes and proud to be mixed arab,euro,berber,black.

Well what can you expect from European douchebags ? According by some they're civilized. I also been thrown a lot shade but he needs to take negative opinions like a grain of salt.

I have been call dirty mestizo by some while i'm pred Caucasian not necessarily European.

[mashail]

Well what can you expect from European douchebags ? According by some they're civilized. I also been thrown a lot shade but he needs to take negative opinions like a grain of salt.

I have been call dirty mestizo by some while i'm pred Caucasian not necessarily European.

what the f*** (dirty mestizo) how nasty and racist they are!!!!!!! omg this is too much!! you know whats the funny part that arabs call them as pink pigs LOL!!

[Congolese Rice]

I am so discusted of their responds to him they are such a bad people and disrespectful he's young but he has a good morals and he's handsome and if he wanna be arab let him be since he score some westasian on him.
I am done with everyone the way they keep attacking him is barbarian,at least he's not a self hater he likes and proud to be mixed arab,euro,berber,black.

well i gotta be honest with you i wasnt really respectful either but thats how i get when people attack me out of nowhere. i think it's very far fetched for me to be 70% european, from what my research tells me i should be either around 1/3 arab or 1/3 berber, tending more to the berber side i think because on many tests i dont score very high near eastern, only 3-4%. Africa9 gives me 21.83% SW_asian, Ancient Eurasia K6 gives me 27.76% natufian, and eurogenes K7 ane yourdnaportal gives me 27.70 near eastern. i think its most likely berber though otherwise i would've known wayyy ago.

and thanks :D and ofc you should be proud of who you are. europeans were my ancestors, african slaves were my ancestors, berbers/arabs, amerindians, i feel connected to all of them in some way

[Congolese Rice]

what the f*** (dirty mestizo) how nasty and racist they are!!!!!!! omg this is too much!! you know whats the funny part that arabs call them as pink pigs LOL!!

XDDD i can see why lol

[Congolese Rice]

i found a new match :O and this time it's a minimum of 5 cm and higher than 500 snps, interesting XD



Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 250 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 5.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
20 18,847,166 22,052,421 5.3 545
Largest segment = 5.3 cM
Total of segments > 5 cM = 5.3 cM
1 matching segments

400457 SNPs used for this comparison.

kit number : T365742

this guy is a algerian btw


a tunisian:


Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 250 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 5.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
10 2,384,389 3,815,343 6.3 401
Largest segment = 6.3 cM
Total of segments > 5 cM = 6.3 cM
1 matching segments

kit: T313649


a moroccan:

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 250 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 5.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
9 36,957,063 70,542,313 6.0 284
Largest segment = 6.0 cM
Total of segments > 5 cM = 6.0 cM
1 matching segments

290903 SNPs used for this comparison.

kit: M009453


another tunisian




Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 250 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 5.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
10 1,806,298 3,421,825 5.1 318
Largest segment = 5.1 cM
Total of segments > 5 cM = 5.1 cM
1 matching segments

302673 SNPs used for this comparison.



^ lol, if i put the cm down im pretty sure i'll score way more haha XD

[rein]

well i gotta be honest with you i wasnt really respectful either but thats how i get when people attack me out of nowhere. i think it's very far fetched for me to be 70% european, from what my research tells me i should be either around 1/3 arab or 1/3 berber, tending more to the berber side i think because on many tests i dont score very high near eastern, only 3-4%. Africa9 gives me 21.83% SW_asian, Ancient Eurasia K6 gives me 27.76% natufian, and eurogenes K7 ane yourdnaportal gives me 27.70 near eastern. i think its most likely berber though otherwise i would've known wayyy ago.

and thanks :D and ofc you should be proud of who you are. europeans were my ancestors, african slaves were my ancestors, berbers/arabs, amerindians, i feel connected to all of them in some way

Ancient Eurasia K6 is generous with Natufian. Even Norwegians are 33.43%. :D

[Congolese Rice]

Ancient Eurasia K6 is generous with Natufian. Even Norwegians are 33.43%. :D

yeah thats true i suppose. but even so, considering the fact that im half european, and still score a generous amount indicates that there is some other admixture interfering with it or is it not? i score almost 28% and thats pretty high up for a supposed half european, then again i probably have berber admix so doesnt surprise me in that case

[mashail]

well i gotta be honest with you i wasnt really respectful either but thats how i get when people attack me out of nowhere. i think it's very far fetched for me to be 70% european, from what my research tells me i should be either around 1/3 arab or 1/3 berber, tending more to the berber side i think because on many tests i dont score very high near eastern, only 3-4%. Africa9 gives me 21.83% SW_asian, Ancient Eurasia K6 gives me 27.76% natufian, and eurogenes K7 ane yourdnaportal gives me 27.70 near eastern. i think its most likely berber though otherwise i would've known wayyy ago.

and thanks :D and ofc you should be proud of who you are. europeans were my ancestors, african slaves were my ancestors, berbers/arabs, amerindians, i feel connected to all of them in some way
EDIT: I meant about your 27.76% natufian they are an ancient semitic people from modern day Jordan and Lebanon and Palestine, oh btw semitic ppl r the natives of Arabian peninsula and levant and some jewish but not the euoprean or the African ones though.

[Congolese Rice]

Ancient Eurasia K6 gives me 27.76% natufian. they are ancient semitic people from modern day Jordan and Lebanon and Palestine, oh btw semitic ppl r the natives of Arabian peninsula and levant and some jewish but not the euoprean or the African ones though.

would you say my berber admix got sucked into the natufian percentage?

and lol, do you really score 27.76% natufian or did you mistake ur percentage with mine? XD if you didnt mistake it then we is natufian twinsies XDDD


Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 14.74
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.42
East_Asian 1.34
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 30.45
Natufian 27.76
Sub_Saharan 23.28

[Congolese Rice]

also WTF, i found my berber tuareg brother on internet lmao XD



https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/3d/bb/d23dbb117ed30fc6aa6653bbe7249ca3.jpg

this guy has the exact same eyebrows and nose that i have lol

[mashail]

maybe you got your middle eastern genes from your Southern European ancestors and from your black side you got berber genes on u I bit your black ancestors were from sangal genetically they are a mixture of black subsaharan and berber. you will never know this is only guesses!!

[rein]

yeah thats true i suppose. but even so, considering the fact that im half european, and still score a generous amount indicates that there is some other admixture interfering with it or is it not? i score almost 28% and thats pretty high up for a supposed half european, then again i probably have berber admix so doesnt surprise me in that case

Almost as high as a Somali who score 30%. Anyways, this is ancient component calculator. I find modern population ones more useful for me.

[mashail]

would you say my berber admix got sucked into the natufian percentage?

and lol, do you really score 27.76% natufian or did you mistake ur percentage with mine? XD if you didnt mistake it then we is natufian twinsies XDDD
Population

Ancestral_North_Eurasian 14.74
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.42
East_Asian 1.34
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 30.45
Natufian 27.76
Sub_Saharan 23.28

lol noooo im not i was trying to reply for your Ancient natufian!!!!! im fully middle eastern thats why im not interested to do the test LOL!

[rein]

lol noooo im not i was trying to reply for your Ancient natufian!!!!! im fully middle eastern thats why im not interested to do the test LOL!

Lol, I also thought they were your results and was wondering why you scored so low for a Middle Easterner who score about 50%

[mashail]

also WTF, i found my berber tuareg brother on internet lmao XD




https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/3d/bb/d23dbb117ed30fc6aa6653bbe7249ca3.jpg

this guy has the exact same eyebrows and nose that i have lol

wow!!!!! you guys look alike!!!!!!!!!!

[Congolese Rice]

lol noooo im not i was trying to reply for your Ancient natufian!!!!! im fully middle eastern thats why im not interested to do the test LOL!

Ooooh hahaha makes more sense now. i was like "wot" and the exact same percentage as i was aswell XD anyways cool. you'd probably score 50% or higher yeah. I'm pretty sure 27.80% is pretty high up there, even though there are european populations who score higher. it isn't always necessarily "natufian" or "middle eastern" for them. like the test says if you are european it doesnt necessarily mean that natufians interacted wif ur ancestors. only via ur intermediaries the EEF or whatever.

well as much as i know my Mediterranean is pretty low, unless we include my berber haha

[Congolese Rice]

Almost as high as a Somali who score 30%. Anyways, this is ancient component calculator. I find modern population ones more useful for me.

well yes, but i tend to use every calculator really. This one stood out to me most of all really, more modern calculators give me usually 13-17% middle eastern/west asian, and some mediterranean percentages like 10 or 20%. which are most likely partially berber and minor hispanic haha.

and lmao, that says enough. If a somali scores 30% then im pretty sure it can be comparible to mine, and thus both of our natufian scores are arab/north african based lol

[mashail]

Lol, I also thought they were your results and was wondering why you scored so low for a Middle Easterner who score about 50%
LOL:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Congolese Rice]

wow!!!!! you guys look alike!!!!!!!!!!

yes, like wtf. i am not even trying to make myself seem more berber. i am actually legit he has the same eyebrows as i do. the exact same shape. only his eyebrows are a littleee bit thicker. probably because he is older than i am.


well now atleast i know were i got my good looks from B^) IF i am actually 1/4 or 1/3 berber then i'd actually be proud since i'd be half african then. that would be very cool haha

[rein]

well yes, but i tend to use every calculator really. This one stood out to me most of all really, more modern calculators give me usually 13-17% middle eastern/west asian, and some mediterranean percentages like 10 or 20%. which are most likely partially berber and minor hispanic haha.

and lmao, that says enough. If a somali scores 30% then im pretty sure it can be comparible to mine, and thus both of our natufian scores are arab/north african based lol

Mine are 38.63%.

[Congolese Rice]

Mine are 38.63%.

lol. then yeah, it's probably definitely arab/north african based if you are half european i think. You are half arab and i only score roughly 10-11% lower than you do haha theres definitely some strong berber or arab admix in my results i think, i am only 1/4 or 1/3 though, not as much as you so obviously i will score lower haha

[rein]

lol. then yeah, it's probably definitely arab/north african based if you are half european i think. You are half arab and i only score roughly 10-11% lower than you do haha theres definitely some strong berber or arab admix in my results i think, i am only 1/4 or 1/3 though, not as much as you so obviously i will score lower haha

You definitely can have some Berber admix. However, as I said this is an ancient test so North Europeans can score 30% Natufian and high West Hunter Gatherer, whilst Middle Easterners score around 50% Natufian.
Funnily Sicilians also score around 48% Natufian. You can look up the percentages in reference table.
Anyways, don’t forget to run the results of your aunt through gedmatch calculators to see what she scores.

[mashail]

Guys I started to be curious omg I know that I’m 100% middle eastern but who knows I might have Chinese on me or 2% African LOL.
Even though I look like typical middle eastern lamo.

[Congolese Rice]

You definitely can have some Berber admix. However, as I said this is an ancient test so North Europeans can score 30% Natufian and high West Hunter Gatherer, whilst Middle Easterners score around 50% Natufian.
Funnily Sicilians also score around 48% Natufian. You can look up the percentages in reference table.
Anyways, don’t forget to run the results of your aunt through gedmatch calculators to see what she scores.

yes man, i definitely will help my aunt make a gedmatch account once she has her results and then i can finally know what i am mostly from my european side. i am super curious to know if i am actually majority german and british XD i am super curious haha but yeah i guess only time will tell.

and yeah this is a ancient test indeed, europeans will 100% score some "Natufian" aswell. only the natufian for us middle eastern admixed people is different than the natufian definition for europeans i think. i guess its just a matter of knowing your ancestry.

from what i've heard from McDonald is that i definitely have some ancestry from north africa, as is shown by my chromosome painting and bgas etc. i am curious to see if my dad's family also has berber or moor ancestry. if they do it'll probably be minor, like 6%, 12% maybe. but yeah i am curious to see.

I'll definitely do some more research on my DNA though, if anyone has any berber or north african kit numbers could you send them over to me? I am curious to see if i match with any other berber's DNA. since 6.2 cM for a complete stranger is definitely something i guess. it's larger than 3 cM atleast so that's a start haha ^^

[Congolese Rice]

Guys I started to be curious omg I know that I’m 100% middle eastern but who knows I might have Chinese on me or 2% African LOL.
Even though I look like typical middle eastern lamo.

lmao, you definitely have some admixture. look at me, i always thought i was half black and half white. never knew i'd even get close to being berber or arab.


and also, even though you might score very high middle eastern you probably COULD have minor african, maybe some north african too perhaps. then u can join the #BerberGang XD

but yeah. look at me, if i didn't tell you my ethnicity and i'd ask you to guess, look how many ppl would classify me for berber or arabid admixed XD i look very north african to some people and im only 21% SSA and maybe 1/3 or 1/4 berber. it makes no damn sense lol

i always expected to look caribbean apparently i dont XD

[rein]

yes man, i definitely will help my aunt make a gedmatch account once she has her results and then i can finally know what i am mostly from my european side. i am super curious to know if i am actually majority german and british XD i am super curious haha but yeah i guess only time will tell.

and yeah this is a ancient test indeed, europeans will 100% score some "Natufian" aswell. only the natufian for us middle eastern admixed people is different than the natufian definition for europeans i think. i guess its just a matter of knowing your ancestry.

from what i've heard from McDonald is that i definitely have some ancestry from north africa, as is shown by my chromosome painting and bgas etc. i am curious to see if my dad's family also has berber or moor ancestry. if they do it'll probably be minor, like 6%, 12% maybe. but yeah i am curious to see.

I'll definitely do some more research on my DNA though, if anyone has any berber or north african kit numbers could you send them over to me? I am curious to see if i match with any other berber's DNA. since 6.2 cM for a complete stranger is definitely something i guess. it's larger than 3 cM atleast so that's a start haha ^^

Do you keep in contact with any uncles or aunts from dad’s side? If so, maybe you can convince them to test.

[Congolese Rice]

Do you keep in contact with any uncles or aunts from dad’s side? If so, maybe you can convince them to test.

nope, i only have contact with my dad's sister. i have no contact with the other entirety of his family XD kinda sad really. but yeah, i never knew him so i dont care. i'll app my aunt tomorrow to see what she's up to, she said she'd also send some money to Aruba for me, so i could buy myself some stuff so that's very nice of her :D

and also tomorrow i'll be going to a arabian restaurant called "Sultan". finally gonna eat some good ass middle eastern food in the first time in damn months XDD

but yeah, i'll see, i hope my aunt does the test :P

[StonyArabia]

Berbers are more northwest African and Arabians are southwest Asian .

[mashail]

Berbers are more northwest African and Arabians are southwest Asian .
merhaba areed as2lk hassa ani lw 3mlet alf7a9 tba3 Algenat ttw8a3 ra7 ykon 3ndi shnu??? ani ahlii 6raf omi mn west al3raq like snjar w aboy ahwa mn kirkuk shmal sharq al3raq.

[Congolese Rice]

Berbers are more northwest African and Arabians are southwest Asian .

Yes that's true haha, but do you happen to know how to seperate berber components on gedmatch? if im not mistaken they should be sucked into Mediterranean/arabian and north african components right? like Red sea, east med, west med, or neolithic etc.


and can you tell by my results that i am partially berber or no? from what i've heard somali's score 30% natufian on the eurasia K6 test and i score almost 28%. and since somali's are roughly 30-40% arab i think it could def be berber influenced, what do you think friend? you seem to be well informed on MENA's XD



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my eurasia K6:


gedrosia K6 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 30.45
2 Natufian 27.76
3 Sub_Saharan 23.28
4 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 14.74
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.42
6 East_Asian 1.34


Finished reading population data. 136 populations found.
6 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Moroccan @ 19.881178
2 Algerian @ 20.177343
3 Saharawi @ 23.123322
4 GoyetQ116 @ 26.824112
5 Libyan @ 26.871412
6 Bulgarian @ 27.774874
7 Hungarian @ 27.984194
8 Ukrainian @ 28.123915
9 Croatian @ 28.133266
10 Romanian @ 28.206146
11 Russian @ 28.245659
12 Spanish @ 28.378586
13 Steppe_MLBA @ 28.516495
14 Czech @ 28.744583
15 Scottish @ 28.818592
16 Norwegian @ 28.908331
17 English @ 28.919888
18 French @ 28.978497
19 Finnish @ 29.012388
20 Europe_LNBA @ 29.401033

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +50% Somali @ 6.784506


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese +25% Mota +25% Motala12 @ 1.296267


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 BedouinA + Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iran_ChL @ 0.000000
2 BedouinA + Hadza + Iran_ChL + WHG @ 0.000000
3 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iranian_Mazandarani + Palestinian @ 0.000000
4 Hadza + Iranian_Mazandarani + Palestinian + WHG @ 0.000000
5 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Jordanian + Kurd_F @ 0.422032
6 Hadza + Jordanian + Kurd_F + WHG @ 0.422032
7 Armenia_ChL + BedouinA + Hadza + SHG @ 0.481609
8 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iranian_Shirazi + Palestinian @ 0.488010
9 Hadza + Iranian_Shirazi + Palestinian + WHG @ 0.488010
10 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iran_LN + Jordanian @ 0.575826
11 Hadza + Iran_LN + Jordanian + WHG @ 0.575826
12 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Jordanian + Kurd_C @ 0.598981
13 Hadza + Jordanian + Kurd_C + WHG @ 0.598981
14 Armenia_ChL + BedouinA + Hadza + Motala12 @ 0.673160
=====


Gedrosia K12 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 27.71
2 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 24.79
3 SUB_SAHARAN 23.56
4 CAUCASUS 8.63
5 SW_ASIAN 5.09
6 BALOCHI 3.96
7 E_AFRICAN 2.23
8 S_INDIAN 1.81
9 E_SIBERIAN 1.09


Finished reading population data. 87 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek @ 34.219196
2 Norwegian @ 36.381535
3 Sicilian @ 37.193859
4 Turks_Istanbul @ 40.075687
5 Russian @ 41.206917
6 Turkmen_Afghan @ 41.296894
7 Uzbek @ 41.709469
8 Turks_Aydin @ 41.990959
9 Turks_Balikesir @ 43.604202
10 Tajik_Pomiri @ 44.808521
11 Kurds_C @ 45.098789
12 Finnish @ 45.211155
13 Kurds_N @ 45.991249
14 Tajik_Afghan @ 46.464764
15 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 46.733707
16 Uzbek_Afghan @ 46.897259
17 Turks_Adana @ 47.049088
18 Kurds_F @ 47.279957
19 Estonian @ 48.021648
20 Kurds_E @ 48.111187

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +50% Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 27.064121


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +25% Turks_Istanbul +25% Yoruba @ 5.212138


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_F + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.167013
2 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_F + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.167013
3 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_F + Sardinian @ 4.181566
4 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_F + Sardinian @ 4.181566
5 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_C + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.418146
6 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_C + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.418146
7 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_C + Sardinian @ 4.431383
8 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_C + Sardinian @ 4.431383
9 BA_Sintashta + Iranian + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.469152
10 Corded_Ware_LN + Iranian + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.469152
11 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Iranian + Sardinian @ 4.483259
12 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Iranian + Sardinian @ 4.483259
13 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_N + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.641801

=========
MyGenomeBox (this gives me super high african, and since genomebox includes the whole of africa it could definitely be berber)

Africa
35.75%
South Europe
15.43%
West Europe
14.89%
North Europe
12.36%
East Europe
11.46%

3.74%
East
Asia

3.07%
South
America

2.23% (near eastern/arabia)
Asia

1.07%
North
America

[StonyArabia]

^ you are both Arab and Berber influenced. You seem to have Bedouin ancestors.

[Aren]

Ooooh hahaha makes more sense now. i was like "wot" and the exact same percentage as i was aswell XD anyways cool. you'd probably score 50% or higher yeah. I'm pretty sure 27.80% is pretty high up there, even though there are european populations who score higher. it isn't always necessarily "natufian" or "middle eastern" for them. like the test says if you are european it doesnt necessarily mean that natufians interacted wif ur ancestors. only via ur intermediaries the EEF or whatever.

well as much as i know my Mediterranean is pretty low, unless we include my berber haha

All Europeans score higher Natufian than you including Finns. You cannot just look at what you score and go with that. You have to look at the oracle and the 3-4 way mix mode. If it gives you Northern Euro + SSA + Berber then yes you are partly Berber but I doubt any calculator does that.
Man seriously it's quite clear you don't have Berber/Arab admixture.

[Congolese Rice]

^ you are both Arab and Berber influenced. You seem to have Bedouin ancestors.

huh lol, that's interesting. seems like i am partially arab after all, but still im not sure XD i have no arabic surnames in my family so i assume the bedouin is from way back. eitherway what i DO know is that i am super mixed if i am actually berber and arab influenced, all my components will be mixed then XD

[StonyArabia]

merhaba areed as2lk hassa ani lw 3mlet alf7a9 tba3 Algenat ttw8a3 ra7 ykon 3ndi shnu??? ani ahlii 6raf omi mn west al3raq like snjar w aboy ahwa mn kirkuk shmal sharq al3raq.

I don't understand the Latinization of Arabic hehe. If your Arab side is from Sanjar it's possible you are Mesopotamian based like a lot of northwest Iraqis with Arabian influence. It also depends on what tribe your mom is from. If your father is Kurdish from Kirkuk, it mostly likely be close to Azeris and north Iranians. It would be cool to see your results.

[Congolese Rice]

All Europeans score higher Natufian than you including Finns. You cannot just look at what you score and go with that. You have to look at the oracle and the 3-4 way mix mode. If it gives you Northern Euro + SSA + Berber then yes you are partly Berber but I doubt any calculator does that.
Man seriously it's quite clear you don't have Berber/Arab admixture.

ok, no problem friend. i'll send you a few 3-4 population approx if that helps you.


Ancient Eurasia K6:


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese +25% Mota +25% Motala12 @ 1.296267


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 BedouinA + Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iran_ChL @ 0.000000
2 BedouinA + Hadza + Iran_ChL + WHG @ 0.000000
3 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iranian_Mazandarani + Palestinian @ 0.000000
4 Hadza + Iranian_Mazandarani + Palestinian + WHG @ 0.000000
5 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Jordanian + Kurd_F @ 0.422032
6 Hadza + Jordanian + Kurd_F + WHG @ 0.422032
7 Armenia_ChL + BedouinA + Hadza + SHG @ 0.481609
8 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iranian_Shirazi + Palestinian @ 0.488010
9 Hadza + Iranian_Shirazi + Palestinian + WHG @ 0.488010
10 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iran_LN + Jordanian @ 0.575826
11 Hadza + Iran_LN + Jordanian + WHG @ 0.575826
12 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Jordanian + Kurd_C @ 0.598981
13 Hadza + Jordanian + Kurd_C + WHG @ 0.598981
14 Armenia_ChL + BedouinA + Hadza + Motala12 @ 0.673160
15 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iranian_Shirazi + Lebanese @ 0.680161
16 Hadza + Iranian_Shirazi + Lebanese + WHG @ 0.680161
17 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iranian_Mazandarani + Jordanian @ 0.743273
18 Hadza + Iranian_Mazandarani + Jordanian + WHG @ 0.743273
19 Kumyk + Libyan + Masai + SHG @ 0.778317
20 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Kurd_C + Palestinian @ 0.802877

=========


Gedrosia K12:


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +50% Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 27.064121


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +25% Turks_Istanbul +25% Yoruba @ 5.212138


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_F + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.167013
2 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_F + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.167013
3 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_F + Sardinian @ 4.181566
4 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_F + Sardinian @ 4.181566
5 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_C + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.418146
6 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_C + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.418146
7 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_C + Sardinian @ 4.431383
8 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_C + Sardinian @ 4.431383
9 BA_Sintashta + Iranian + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.469152
10 Corded_Ware_LN + Iranian + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.469152
11 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Iranian + Sardinian @ 4.483259
12 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Iranian + Sardinian @ 4.483259
13 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_N + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.641801
14 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_N + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.641801
15 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_N + Sardinian @ 4.655050
16 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_N + Sardinian @ 4.655050
17 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_E + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.735190
18 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_E + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.735190
19 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_E + Sardinian @ 4.747951
20 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_E + Sardinian @ 4.747951

==========

EthioHelix K10 + French:


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% french +25% morocco-n +25% yoruba @ 2.858610


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 algeria + bambaran + french + french @ 1.866526
2 bambaran + french + french + morocco-n @ 1.937596
3 algeria + brong + french + french @ 2.001741
4 brong + french + french + morocco-n @ 2.077469
5 brong + french + french + moroccans @ 2.676510
6 algeria + french + french + yoruba @ 2.727184
7 algeria + french + french + yoruba @ 2.727184
8 french + french + morocco-n + yoruba @ 2.858610
9 french + french + morocco-n + yoruba @ 2.858610
10 bambaran + french + french + moroccans @ 2.894958
11 french + french + moroccans + yoruba @ 3.262558
12 french + french + moroccans + yoruba @ 3.262558
13 dogon + french + french + morocco-n @ 3.613788
14 algeria + french + french + mandenka @ 3.645414
15 french + french + mandenka + morocco-n @ 3.725548
16 algeria + dogon + french + french @ 3.743774
17 dogon + french + french + moroccans @ 4.410098
18 algeria + french + french + hausa @ 4.434712
19 french + french + mandenka + moroccans @ 4.485708
20 french + french + hausa + morocco-n @ 4.611527

===========

Africa9 Dodecad:



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Morocco_Jews +25% North_Italian +25% Yoruba @ 5.560930


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Brong + French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.292991
2 French_Basque + Mandenka + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.523308
3 French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + Yoruba @ 2.658659
4 Brong + French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.698521
5 French_Basque + Igbo + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.975921
6 French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + Yoruba @ 2.985883
7 French_Basque + Mandenka + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 3.000863
8 Brong + French_Basque + Jordanians + Morocco_Jews @ 3.191340
9 French_Basque + Igbo + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 3.200177
10 Mandenka + Morocco_Jews + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 3.284655
11 French_Basque + Jordanians + Mandenka + Morocco_Jews @ 3.290316
12 Mandenka + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.294896
13 French_Basque + Hausa + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 3.328845
14 Mandenka + Morocco_Jews + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.338498
15 Brong + Morocco_Jews + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.393985
16 Brong + Morocco_Jews + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 3.409166
17 Druze + French_Basque + Mandenka + Morocco_Jews @ 3.435745
18 Brong + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.442931
19 French_Basque + Jordanians + Morocco_Jews + Yoruba @ 3.470489
20 Morocco_Jews + North_Italian + North_Italian + Yoruba @ 3.547149

=========

the oracle approx give me mixed european, middle eastern, and SSA. is that what you ment?


also look at the oracle distances:


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% french +25% morocco-n +25% yoruba @ 2.858610


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 algeria + bambaran + french + french @ 1.866526
2 bambaran + french + french + morocco-n @ 1.937596
3 algeria + brong + french + french @ 2.001741

they are very low, i am not sure what to think of this but many calculators give me this effect of being 50% european, 25% mideast, and 25% SSA in the 3rd pop approx.

[mashail]

I don't understand the Latinization of Arabic hehe. If your Arab side is from Sanjar it's possible you are Mesopotamian based like a lot of northwest Iraqis with Arabian influence. It also depends on what tribe your mom is from. If your father is Kurdish from Kirkuk, it mostly likely be close to Azeris and north Iranians. It would be cool to see your results.
inshAllah im going to do the test and maybe I have lots of surprises LOL!!
my dad is kurd from prophet Muhammed tribe while mother she's Bedouin from sanjar shimmer tribe they my mother tribe resemble yazidis very well!!!!!!

[Congolese Rice]

All Europeans score higher Natufian than you including Finns. You cannot just look at what you score and go with that. You have to look at the oracle and the 3-4 way mix mode. If it gives you Northern Euro + SSA + Berber then yes you are partly Berber but I doubt any calculator does that.
Man seriously it's quite clear you don't have Berber/Arab admixture.

also, according to this "ethiohelix k10 + french" test in the 4th population approx i am closer to Algerians than moroccans lol. these are one of the lowest oracles i've gotten on any test, how the fuq havent i used this test before XDDD

[Aren]

ok, no problem friend. i'll send you a few 3-4 population approx if that helps you.


Ancient Eurasia K6:


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese +25% Mota +25% Motala12 @ 1.296267


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 BedouinA + Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iran_ChL @ 0.000000
2 BedouinA + Hadza + Iran_ChL + WHG @ 0.000000
3 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iranian_Mazandarani + Palestinian @ 0.000000
4 Hadza + Iranian_Mazandarani + Palestinian + WHG @ 0.000000
5 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Jordanian + Kurd_F @ 0.422032
6 Hadza + Jordanian + Kurd_F + WHG @ 0.422032
7 Armenia_ChL + BedouinA + Hadza + SHG @ 0.481609
8 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iranian_Shirazi + Palestinian @ 0.488010
9 Hadza + Iranian_Shirazi + Palestinian + WHG @ 0.488010
10 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iran_LN + Jordanian @ 0.575826
11 Hadza + Iran_LN + Jordanian + WHG @ 0.575826
12 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Jordanian + Kurd_C @ 0.598981
13 Hadza + Jordanian + Kurd_C + WHG @ 0.598981
14 Armenia_ChL + BedouinA + Hadza + Motala12 @ 0.673160
15 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iranian_Shirazi + Lebanese @ 0.680161
16 Hadza + Iranian_Shirazi + Lebanese + WHG @ 0.680161
17 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Iranian_Mazandarani + Jordanian @ 0.743273
18 Hadza + Iranian_Mazandarani + Jordanian + WHG @ 0.743273
19 Kumyk + Libyan + Masai + SHG @ 0.778317
20 Hadza + Hungarian_KO1 + Kurd_C + Palestinian @ 0.802877

=========


Gedrosia K12:


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +50% Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 27.064121


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +25% Turks_Istanbul +25% Yoruba @ 5.212138


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_F + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.167013
2 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_F + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.167013
3 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_F + Sardinian @ 4.181566
4 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_F + Sardinian @ 4.181566
5 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_C + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.418146
6 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_C + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.418146
7 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_C + Sardinian @ 4.431383
8 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_C + Sardinian @ 4.431383
9 BA_Sintashta + Iranian + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.469152
10 Corded_Ware_LN + Iranian + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.469152
11 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Iranian + Sardinian @ 4.483259
12 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Iranian + Sardinian @ 4.483259
13 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_N + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.641801
14 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_N + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.641801
15 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_N + Sardinian @ 4.655050
16 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_N + Sardinian @ 4.655050
17 BA_Sintashta + Kurds_E + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.735190
18 Corded_Ware_LN + Kurds_E + Sardinian + Yoruba @ 4.735190
19 BA_Sintashta + Esan + Kurds_E + Sardinian @ 4.747951
20 Corded_Ware_LN + Esan + Kurds_E + Sardinian @ 4.747951

==========

EthioHelix K10 + French:


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% french +25% morocco-n +25% yoruba @ 2.858610


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 algeria + bambaran + french + french @ 1.866526
2 bambaran + french + french + morocco-n @ 1.937596
3 algeria + brong + french + french @ 2.001741
4 brong + french + french + morocco-n @ 2.077469
5 brong + french + french + moroccans @ 2.676510
6 algeria + french + french + yoruba @ 2.727184
7 algeria + french + french + yoruba @ 2.727184
8 french + french + morocco-n + yoruba @ 2.858610
9 french + french + morocco-n + yoruba @ 2.858610
10 bambaran + french + french + moroccans @ 2.894958
11 french + french + moroccans + yoruba @ 3.262558
12 french + french + moroccans + yoruba @ 3.262558
13 dogon + french + french + morocco-n @ 3.613788
14 algeria + french + french + mandenka @ 3.645414
15 french + french + mandenka + morocco-n @ 3.725548
16 algeria + dogon + french + french @ 3.743774
17 dogon + french + french + moroccans @ 4.410098
18 algeria + french + french + hausa @ 4.434712
19 french + french + mandenka + moroccans @ 4.485708
20 french + french + hausa + morocco-n @ 4.611527

===========

Africa9 Dodecad:



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Morocco_Jews +25% North_Italian +25% Yoruba @ 5.560930


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Brong + French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.292991
2 French_Basque + Mandenka + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.523308
3 French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + Yoruba @ 2.658659
4 Brong + French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.698521
5 French_Basque + Igbo + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.975921
6 French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + Yoruba @ 2.985883
7 French_Basque + Mandenka + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 3.000863
8 Brong + French_Basque + Jordanians + Morocco_Jews @ 3.191340
9 French_Basque + Igbo + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 3.200177
10 Mandenka + Morocco_Jews + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 3.284655
11 French_Basque + Jordanians + Mandenka + Morocco_Jews @ 3.290316
12 Mandenka + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.294896
13 French_Basque + Hausa + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 3.328845
14 Mandenka + Morocco_Jews + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.338498
15 Brong + Morocco_Jews + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.393985
16 Brong + Morocco_Jews + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 3.409166
17 Druze + French_Basque + Mandenka + Morocco_Jews @ 3.435745
18 Brong + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.442931
19 French_Basque + Jordanians + Morocco_Jews + Yoruba @ 3.470489
20 Morocco_Jews + North_Italian + North_Italian + Yoruba @ 3.547149

=========

the oracle approx give me mixed european, middle eastern, and SSA. is that what you ment?


also look at the oracle distances:


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% french +25% morocco-n +25% yoruba @ 2.858610


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 algeria + bambaran + french + french @ 1.866526
2 bambaran + french + french + morocco-n @ 1.937596
3 algeria + brong + french + french @ 2.001741

they are very low, i am not sure what to think of this but many calculators give me this effect of being 50% european, 25% mideast, and 25% SSA in the 3rd pop approx.

Ethiohelix is made for pred Sub Saharans. Everyone who's not African gets fucked up results on that Calc. The rest are ancient samples very far from modern people today you know that right? KO1= Hunter-gatherer from Hungary, Sintashta= Steppe pastoralist and so on. They are several thousand years old.
Post results that shows you a mix of modern people.

[StonyArabia]

inshAllah im going to do the test and maybe I have lots of surprises LOL!!
my dad is kurd from prophet Muhammed tribe while mother she's Bedouin from sanjar shimmer tribe they my mother tribe resemble yazidis very well!!!!!!

Cool my mother is also from the Shammar tribe to from the Jebali clan and with some Howetiat Bedouins from Jordan . The Jebalis live around the desert areas of Nineveh and northwest of Anbar near Jordan. The Sanjar clan I believe did merge with some of the local people in Sanjar. The Aljablis did not merge but often intermix or merge and if they do it's with another Bedouin tribe. Cool yeah you should do a test. Nice to see someone from my tribe on here lol.

[Congolese Rice]

Ethiohelix is made for pred Sub Saharans. Everyone who's not African gets fucked up results on that Calc. The rest are ancient samples very far from modern people today you know that right? KO1= Hunter-gatherer from Hungary, Sintashta= Steppe pastoralist and so on. They are several thousand years old.
Post results that shows you a mix of modern people.

It could be yeah, but ethiohelix K10 + french is made of both african, and european admixed individuals. and thus perfect for my ethnic breakdown. IF i am partially berber then i am technically half african. and thus this test is perfect for my genotype, it gives me very low oracles, it divides my european, from my mideast, and from my SSA quite well. gedrosia K12 gives the same effect.

and yes ur correct though. EthioHelix is originally a test made for africans, and africans only. but K10 + french is fairly good for me. i dont think my oracles in ancient eurasia K6 are that accurate. Gedrosia K12 gets a bit closer i guess. But then again is still a ancient pop calculator i think.

Other calculators dont show me to have these mixtures, but the percentages are virtually the same. Roughly 50% european, roughly 25% MENA, and roughly 25% SSA. PERCENTAGE wise, not in the oracles visible.


anyways mayn, you doubted that any test showed me to be half european, quarter mena, and quarter african. here you go i pretty much provided you with proof.

EthioHelix K10 + French is not an ancient calc and shows modern populations for as far as i am concerned. It accurately predicts my european, MENA, and SSA. so i am fairly satisified with those results.


if i weren't partially MENA ethiohelix wouldn't have picked up on it, and it would've given me something like this:

1 50% French + 25% french + 25% Yoruba.

anyways thanks for responding. Im pretty sure though ethiohelix predicts my genotype well, better so than many calculators ive tried.

anyways, more info on the K10 french calc:


"EthioHelix Africa K10 + French - French acts as a proxy for European ancestry in this case. Results are currently most meaningful for persons who are a mix of African and European. "

^ i am a mix of european, and african. and thus i think this test is accurate for people like me, especially with the additional info McDonald gave me i cluster closest to Algerians and Moroccans. seems accurate to me tbh.

however u can give ur opinion on the matter xd

[Aren]

It could be yeah, but ethiohelix K10 + french is made of both african, and european admixed individuals. and thus perfect for my ethnic breakdown. IF i am partially berber then i am technically half african. and thus this test is perfect for my genotype, it gives me very low oracles, it divides my european, from my mideast, and from my SSA quite well. gedrosia K12 gives the same effect.

and yes ur correct though. EthioHelix is originally a test made for africans, and africans only. but K10 + french is fairly good for me. i dont think my oracles in ancient eurasia K6 are that accurate. Gedrosia K12 gets a bit closer i guess. But then again is still a ancient pop calculator i think.

Other calculators dont show me to have these mixtures, but the percentages are virtually the same. Roughly 50% european, roughly 25% MENA, and roughly 25% SSA. PERCENTAGE wise, not in the oracles visible.


anyways mayn, you doubted that any test showed me to be half european, quarter mena, and quarter african. here you go i pretty much provided you with proof.

EthioHelix K10 + French is not an ancient calc and shows modern populations for as far as i am concerned. It accurately predicts my european, MENA, and SSA. so i am fairly satisified with those results.


if i weren't partially MENA ethiohelix wouldn't have picked up on it, and it would've given me something like this:

1 50% French + 25% french + 25% Yoruba.

anyways thanks for responding. Im pretty sure though ethiohelix predicts my genotype well, better so than many calculators ive tried.

anyways, more info on the K10 french calc:


"EthioHelix Africa K10 + French - French acts as a proxy for European ancestry in this case. Results are currently most meaningful for persons who are a mix of African and European. "

^ i am a mix of european, and african. and thus i think this test is accurate for people like me, especially with the additional info McDonald gave me i cluster closest to Algerians and Moroccans. seems accurate to me tbh.

however u can give ur opinion on the matter xd

It litteraly breaks up your non-Black side into just French. Here's my results. I'm 100% Assyrian

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 egypt 12.41
2 egyptans 16.6
3 libya 28.03
4 algeria 46.16
5 french 46.69
6 morocco-n 47.35
7 moroccans 57.15
8 EtA 58
9 EtT 59.44
10 ethiopian-jews 60.05
11 EtT-P 61.83
12 EtA-P 64.78
13 Afar 66.25
14 EtO-P 68.23
15 morocco-s 70.2
16 sahara-occ 72.57
17 EtO 73.79
18 EtS-P 78.32
19 Somali 78.61
20 Wolayta 79.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.5% libya + 37.5% french @ 1.56
2 60.9% french + 39.1% sahara-occ @ 5.34
3 50.3% algeria + 49.7% french @ 5.41
4 55.1% french + 44.9% moroccans @ 5.68
5 50.4% french + 49.6% morocco-n @ 6.32
6 81.9% egypt + 18.1% french @ 7.03
7 76.8% egyptans + 23.2% french @ 9.13
8 69.4% french + 30.6% mozabite @ 9.34
9 60.4% french + 39.6% morocco-s @ 10.07
10 100% egypt + 0% !kung @ 12.41
11 100% egypt + 0% ARI-B @ 12.41
12 100% egypt + 0% ARI-C @ 12.41
13 100% egypt + 0% Afar @ 12.41
14 100% egypt + 0% Anuak @ 12.41
15 100% egypt + 0% EtA @ 12.41
16 100% egypt + 0% EtA-P @ 12.41
17 100% egypt + 0% EtO @ 12.41
18 100% egypt + 0% EtO-P @ 12.41
19 100% egypt + 0% EtS-P @ 12.41
20 100% egypt + 0% EtT @ 12.41

But hurr durr Ethiohelix is telling me I'm 62% Libyan and 38% French IT MUST BE TRUE. And with a great fit aswell.
You think everything from Gedmatch is 100% accurate?

There are loads of other calculators who are not solely based for Africans.

Eurogenes K13 gave you 75% Dutch + 25 Yoruba. MDLP gave you 50% north Euro 25% Puerto Rican and 25% some Black reference. No MENA no Berber in the more sane calculators.

[Congolese Rice]

It litteraly breaks up your non-Black side into just French. Here's my results. I'm 100% Assyrian

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 egypt 12.41
2 egyptans 16.6
3 libya 28.03
4 algeria 46.16
5 french 46.69
6 morocco-n 47.35
7 moroccans 57.15
8 EtA 58
9 EtT 59.44
10 ethiopian-jews 60.05
11 EtT-P 61.83
12 EtA-P 64.78
13 Afar 66.25
14 EtO-P 68.23
15 morocco-s 70.2
16 sahara-occ 72.57
17 EtO 73.79
18 EtS-P 78.32
19 Somali 78.61
20 Wolayta 79.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.5% libya + 37.5% french @ 1.56
2 60.9% french + 39.1% sahara-occ @ 5.34
3 50.3% algeria + 49.7% french @ 5.41
4 55.1% french + 44.9% moroccans @ 5.68
5 50.4% french + 49.6% morocco-n @ 6.32
6 81.9% egypt + 18.1% french @ 7.03
7 76.8% egyptans + 23.2% french @ 9.13
8 69.4% french + 30.6% mozabite @ 9.34
9 60.4% french + 39.6% morocco-s @ 10.07
10 100% egypt + 0% !kung @ 12.41
11 100% egypt + 0% ARI-B @ 12.41
12 100% egypt + 0% ARI-C @ 12.41
13 100% egypt + 0% Afar @ 12.41
14 100% egypt + 0% Anuak @ 12.41
15 100% egypt + 0% EtA @ 12.41
16 100% egypt + 0% EtA-P @ 12.41
17 100% egypt + 0% EtO @ 12.41
18 100% egypt + 0% EtO-P @ 12.41
19 100% egypt + 0% EtS-P @ 12.41
20 100% egypt + 0% EtT @ 12.41

But hurr durr Ethiohelix is telling me I'm 62% Libyan and 38% French IT MUST BE TRUE. And with a great fit aswell.
You think everything from Gedmatch is 100% accurate?

There are loads of other calculators who are not solely based for Africans.

Eurogenes K13 gave you 75% Dutch + 25 Yoruba. MDLP gave you 50% north Euro 25% Puerto Rican and 25% some Black reference. No MENA no Berber in the more sane calculators.

no, but still on both calculators i scored MENA percentages, dont forget that. eitherway man, you asked me to show you calculators which broke down my ethnicity to be european, berber, and SSA. i showed you the calculator, it gives me decent percentages, and decent oracles. its obviously not good for differentiating MENA, SSA, or European at ALL but it shows you your overal percentages. if the test tells you you are like 62% libyan and 38% french you are probably 62% middle eastern and 38% european. which is not weird at all for a assyrian lmao.

and no, not everything from gedmatch is 100% accurate, eurogenes isnt, gedrosia isnt, dodecad isnt, but they give you a good overal view. some tests are better for me than others. ethiohelix is apparently one of them. It's no big deal dude.



Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.3% french + 41.7% fulani @ 4.36
2 57% french + 43% morocco-s @ 15.99
3 60.5% french + 39.5% kaba @ 16.1
4 61.7% french + 38.3% hausa @ 16.68
5 62.9% french + 37.1% mandenka @ 16.69
6 61.7% french + 38.3% igbo @ 16.76
7 62.9% french + 37.1% bambaran @ 16.96
8 60.8% french + 39.2% bamoun @ 17.04
9 62.6% french + 37.4% yoruba @ 17.18
10 62.7% french + 37.3% brong @ 17.32
11 60.5% french + 39.5% fang @ 18.03
12 60.8% french + 39.2% kongo @ 18.14
13 60.6% french + 39.4% mada @ 18.28
14 64.2% french + 35.8% dogon @ 18.46
15 82.4% egypt + 17.6% brong @ 19.35
16 83.3% egypt + 16.7% dogon @ 19.43
17 82.7% egypt + 17.3% bambaran @ 19.49
18 82.5% egypt + 17.5% yoruba @ 19.53
19 82.9% egypt + 17.1% mandenka @ 19.71
20 82.3% egypt + 17.7% hausa @ 19.91

[Aren]

no, but still on both calculators i scored MENA percentages, dont forget that. eitherway man, you asked me to show you calculators which broke down my ethnicity to be european, berber, and SSA. i showed you the calculator, it gives me decent percentages, and decent oracles. its obviously not good for differentiating MENA, SSA, or European at ALL but it shows you your overal percentages. if the test tells you you are like 62% libyan and 38% french you are probably 62% middle eastern and 38% european. which is not weird at all for a assyrian lmao.

and no, not everything from gedmatch is 100% accurate, eurogenes isnt, gedrosia isnt, dodecad isnt, but they give you a good overal view. some tests are better for me than others. ethiohelix is apparently one of them. It's no big deal dude.



Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.3% french + 41.7% fulani @ 4.36
2 57% french + 43% morocco-s @ 15.99
3 60.5% french + 39.5% kaba @ 16.1
4 61.7% french + 38.3% hausa @ 16.68
5 62.9% french + 37.1% mandenka @ 16.69
6 61.7% french + 38.3% igbo @ 16.76
7 62.9% french + 37.1% bambaran @ 16.96
8 60.8% french + 39.2% bamoun @ 17.04
9 62.6% french + 37.4% yoruba @ 17.18
10 62.7% french + 37.3% brong @ 17.32
11 60.5% french + 39.5% fang @ 18.03
12 60.8% french + 39.2% kongo @ 18.14
13 60.6% french + 39.4% mada @ 18.28
14 64.2% french + 35.8% dogon @ 18.46
15 82.4% egypt + 17.6% brong @ 19.35
16 83.3% egypt + 16.7% dogon @ 19.43
17 82.7% egypt + 17.3% bambaran @ 19.49
18 82.5% egypt + 17.5% yoruba @ 19.53
19 82.9% egypt + 17.1% mandenka @ 19.71
20 82.3% egypt + 17.7% hausa @ 19.91

Alright this is borderline trolling from your side. Ofc no Middle easterner in any type of way should accurately be moedeled as 40% French and 60% North African that's just insane. Ethiohelix is mainly for African-Americans and New World Blacks who want to figure out their European input. You are much more Euro than Black so so it's not going to give you accurate results.
Basically your arguments are very weak.

Post the oracle mixes, especially the 4 way mixes from Eurogenes, MDLP and Dodecad see what you get there. Those are much more accurate and designed for pred West Eurasians.

[Congolese Rice]

Alright this is borderline trolling from your side. Ofc no Middle easterner in any type of way should accurately be moedeled as 40% French and 60% North African that's just insane. Ethiohelix is mainly for African-Americans and New World Blacks who want to figure out their European input. You are much more Euro than Black so so it's not going to give you accurate results.
Basically your arguments are very weak.

Post the oracle mixes, especially the 4 way mixes from Eurogenes, MDLP and Dodecad see what you get there. Those are much more accurate and designed for pred West Eurasians.

no, i never said that. you are taking it too literally.

I said your results show you to be roughly 62.5% Middle Eastern and 37.5% european, you dont take the reference populations seriously at all. They just break down your components, your SSA, european, and additional North african/Middle eastern ancestry you might have. i am not trolling at all i am deadass serious XD do you know how many Assyrians have european ancestry? Along with Lebanese, Israeli's, and basically the rest of the levant. it's no surprise.


and no, it doesnt give accurate results but it gives accurate breakdowns. And this test probably considers north african to be african aswell, either way it's in africa anyway. and yes, once again ethiohelix is for blacks. but ethiohelix K10 + french is for people with african and european ancestry, it doesnt necessarily have to be 50/50 european and black african i assume.


eitherway you've seen my mixed mode, my 3/4th oracle pops. there's not much more to show you.


I know another guy that has similar ethnic breakdowns to mine, he's is Puerto Rican, and he also scores very similarily to me when it comes to tests, Eurogenes predicts him to be slightly more european than he really is, he also has minor MENA, strong Amerindian, and a bit more SSA than i had, he was also slightly less european, like roughly 45%, or 46%. our results were extremely similar.


my arguments are not weak, i'm showing you want you wanted to see bro, you can clearly see they model me as less than 70% european. it's accurate trust me.

Both MDLP and Dodecad give me good chunks of MENA ancestry aswell, which i showed you before. And yes, MDLP and Dodecad are both fairly accurate for me. Eurogenes is not. McDonald recommended Dodecad to me first, he didnt say anything about Eurogenes being specifically good for people with my genotype.

eitherway, you can clearly see in both Gedrosia K12, EthioHelix K10 + French, and there also used to be 2 other tests in Gedrosia, Eurasia K9 ASI, and Ancient Near East K13 or something like that. they also rendered me as 50% european, 25% mideast, and 25% SSA in the 3rd pop approx.

yes i am much more euro than black, but my other percentages are almost equal to that of my european.


Anyways i gave you proof right here, EthioHelix K10 + French is specifically designed for european and african people. and even if you are 100% european and you take this test it will still show you to be 50% French + 25% french + 25% french, why doesnt it show me to be 50% french + 25% french and 25% yoruba then? if we are talking about my genetic breakdown on this test i'd say it's accurate. if we are talking about populations - obviously not, i am not 50% french, but i am 25% yoruba, and possibly 25%+ algerian or moroccan.

thats the message of my story, you can check my chromosome paintings again on the first page on this thread, my overal gedmatch results, and other factors and you can see that not every test portraits me to be 70% european like eurogenes K13. this is solid proof.

[Aren]

no, i never said that. you are taking it too literally.

I said your results show you to be roughly 62.5% Middle Eastern and 37.5% european, you dont take the reference populations seriously at all. They just break down your components, your SSA, european, and additional North african/Middle eastern ancestry you might have. i am not trolling at all i am deadass serious XD do you know how many Assyrians have european ancestry? Along with Lebanese, Israeli's, and basically the rest of the levant. it's no surprise.


and no, it doesnt give accurate results but it gives accurate breakdowns. And this test probably considers north african to be african aswell, either way it's in africa anyway. and yes, once again ethiohelix is for blacks. but ethiohelix K10 + french is for people with african and european ancestry, it doesnt necessarily have to be 50/50 european and black african i assume.


eitherway you've seen my mixed mode, my 3/4th oracle pops. there's not much more to show you.


I know another guy that has similar ethnic breakdowns to mine, he's is Puerto Rican, and he also scores very similarily to me when it comes to tests, Eurogenes predicts him to be slightly more european than he really is, he also has minor MENA, strong Amerindian, and a bit more SSA than i had, he was also slightly less european, like roughly 45%, or 46%. our results were extremely similar.


my arguments are not weak, i'm showing you want you wanted to see bro, you can clearly see they model me as less than 70% european. it's accurate trust me.

Both MDLP and Dodecad give me good chunks of MENA ancestry aswell, which i showed you before. And yes, MDLP and Dodecad are both fairly accurate for me. Eurogenes is not. McDonald recommended Dodecad to me first, he didnt say anything about Eurogenes being specifically good for people with my genotype.

eitherway, you can clearly see in both Gedrosia K12, EthioHelix K10 + French, and there also used to be 2 other tests in Gedrosia, Eurasia K9 ASI, and Ancient Near East K13 or something like that. they also rendered me as 50% european, 25% mideast, and 25% SSA in the 3rd pop approx.

yes i am much more euro than black, but my other percentages are almost equal to that of my european.


Anyways i gave you proof right here, EthioHelix K10 + French is specifically designed for european and african people. and even if you are 100% european and you take this test it will still show you to be 50% French + 25% french + 25% french, why doesnt it show me to be 50% french + 25% french and 25% yoruba then? if we are talking about my genetic breakdown on this test i'd say it's accurate. if we are talking about populations - obviously not, i am not 50% french, but i am 25% yoruba, and possibly 25%+ algerian or moroccan.

thats the message of my story, you can check my chromosome paintings again on the first page on this thread, my overal gedmatch results, and other factors and you can see that not every test portraits me to be 70% european like eurogenes K13. this is solid proof.

Assyrians don't have any European blood at all. We score 0%. So that gives you an idea of how retarded Ethiohelix is when it gives me 38% French. You are insane tbh, let's end this here. You pick out one calculator that gives most people sick results and think it's more accurate for you when you don't even know if you actually have Berber or Arab ancestry, you just want to have it. So stop saying one calculator is more accurate for you than the others cause you don't properly know your heritage. You don't know you are less than 70% European.
You are not posting any of the calculators I'm telling you how can I know? Give me your kit number maybe.

Chromosome painting is garbage aswell. Many mixed people get something inbetween. Like Assyrian-North Euro mixes get a lot of South Euro even though neither parent get it.

[Aren]

Muh Ethiohelix is accurate xD

North Dutch guy

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 French 82.3
2 North-Africa 14.5
3 Omotic 3.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 french 25.01
2 egypt 32.27
3 egyptans 35.92
4 libya 49.75
5 algeria 67.29
6 morocco-n 68.31
7 EtA 75.14
8 EtT 76.19
9 ethiopian-jews 76.59
10 EtT-P 77.28
11 moroccans 78.31
12 EtA-P 80.08
13 Afar 81.18
14 EtO-P 83.63
15 EtO 89.61
16 morocco-s 90.76
17 Wolayta 92.96
18 EtS-P 93.41
19 sahara-occ 93.82
20 Somali 93.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79% french + 21% sahara-occ @ 1.66
2 72.9% french + 27.1% algeria @ 1.69
3 66.6% french + 33.4% libya @ 1.84
4 75.8% french + 24.2% moroccans @ 1.9
5 73.3% french + 26.7% morocco-n @ 2.18
6 83.5% french + 16.5% mozabite @ 3.79
7 56.5% french + 43.5% egypt @ 4.98
8 78.7% french + 21.3% morocco-s @ 5.19
9 59.3% french + 40.7% egyptans @ 6.09
10 82.1% french + 17.9% fulani @ 11.35
11 77.2% french + 22.8% EtA @ 12.16
12 77.7% french + 22.3% EtT @ 12.64
13 77.9% french + 22.1% ethiopian-jews @ 12.88
14 78.6% french + 21.4% EtT-P @ 14.09
15 81.1% french + 18.9% EtO @ 14.18
16 79.4% french + 20.6% EtA-P @ 14.4
17 80.2% french + 19.8% EtO-P @ 14.48
18 79.8% french + 20.2% Afar @ 14.8
19 82.3% french + 17.7% Somali @ 15.05
20 82.9% french + 17.1% hema @ 15.11

North Italian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 French 72.69
2 North-Africa 24.42
3 Omotic 2.89

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 egypt 20.91
2 egyptans 25.05
3 libya 35.74
4 french 39.71
5 algeria 52.52
6 morocco-n 53.5
7 moroccans 63.55
8 EtA 66.21
9 EtT 67.57
10 ethiopian-jews 68.12
11 EtT-P 69.83
12 EtA-P 72.75
13 Afar 74.13
14 EtO-P 76.19
15 morocco-s 76.76
16 sahara-occ 79.07
17 EtO 81.52
18 EtS-P 86.23
19 Somali 86.57
20 Wolayta 86.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.9% french + 43.1% algeria @ 0.62
2 66.6% french + 33.4% sahara-occ @ 0.87
3 57.4% french + 42.6% morocco-n @ 1.05
4 61.6% french + 38.4% moroccans @ 1.4
5 73.5% french + 26.5% mozabite @ 3.39
6 52.7% libya + 47.3% french @ 5.44
7 66.3% french + 33.7% morocco-s @ 8.5
8 67.9% egypt + 32.1% french @ 10.48
9 63.3% egyptans + 36.7% french @ 12.21
10 71.8% french + 28.2% fulani @ 18.66
11 100% egypt + 0% !kung @ 20.91
12 100% egypt + 0% ARI-B @ 20.91
13 100% egypt + 0% ARI-C @ 20.91
14 100% egypt + 0% Afar @ 20.91
15 100% egypt + 0% Anuak @ 20.91
16 100% egypt + 0% EtA @ 20.91
17 100% egypt + 0% EtA-P @ 20.91
18 100% egypt + 0% EtO @ 20.91
19 100% egypt + 0% EtO-P @ 20.91
20 100% egypt + 0% EtS-P @ 20.91

Actual French from central France

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 French 80.29
2 North-Africa 16.54
3 Omotic 2.12
4 Hadza 1.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 french 27.99
2 egypt 30.07
3 egyptans 33.85
4 libya 46.99
5 algeria 64.27
6 morocco-n 65.26
7 EtA 73.57
8 EtT 74.68
9 ethiopian-jews 75.1
10 moroccans 75.28
11 EtT-P 76.12
12 EtA-P 78.92
13 Afar 80.1
14 EtO-P 82.41
15 morocco-s 87.82
16 EtO 88.14
17 sahara-occ 90.8
18 Wolayta 92.05
19 EtS-P 92.29
20 Somali 92.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.5% french + 23.5% sahara-occ @ 1.26
2 69.7% french + 30.3% algeria @ 1.43
3 72.9% french + 27.1% moroccans @ 1.51
4 70% french + 30% morocco-n @ 1.63
5 81.4% french + 18.6% mozabite @ 3.26
6 62.8% french + 37.2% libya @ 3.41
7 76.2% french + 23.8% morocco-s @ 5.58
8 51.9% french + 48.1% egypt @ 6.92
9 55.1% french + 44.9% egyptans @ 8.12
10 79.9% french + 20.1% fulani @ 12.68
11 75.1% french + 24.9% EtA @ 14.59
12 75.6% french + 24.4% EtT @ 15.11
13 75.8% french + 24.2% ethiopian-jews @ 15.34
14 79.4% french + 20.6% EtO @ 16.62
15 76.8% french + 23.2% EtT-P @ 16.79
16 77.7% french + 22.3% EtA-P @ 17.09
17 78.5% french + 21.5% EtO-P @ 17.13
18 81% french + 19% hema @ 17.23
19 78.2% french + 21.8% Afar @ 17.55
20 81.4% french + 18.6% maasai @ 17.55

[Congolese Rice]

Assyrians don't have any European blood at all. We score 0%. So that gives you an idea of how retarded Ethiohelix is when it gives me 38% French. You are insane tbh, let's end this here. You pick out one calculator that gives most people sick results and think it's more accurate for you when you don't even know if you actually have Berber or Arab ancestry, you just want to have it. So stop saying one calculator is more accurate for you than the others cause you don't properly know your heritage. You don't know you are less than 70% European.
You are not posting any of the calculators I'm telling you how can I know? Give me your kit number maybe.

Chromosome painting is garbage aswell. Many mixed people get something inbetween. Like Assyrian-North Euro mixes get a lot of South Euro even though neither parent get it.

Well didnt you guys do the exact same thing to me before? you pick out a single calculator and use that as a reference for my entire ethnic breakdown. Trust me, if anybody knows my breakdown better than anyone on this forum it's me. I know my families better than you guys, not 100%, but i know them better. So i can get a better picture of my ethnicity.

Besides, i could easily believe it that many assyrians dont necessarily have to score alot of european. But frankly some do, whether it be 5%, 6%, or 20% it's still there.

And no shit ethiohelix gives you less informative results than me because you arent even african to begin with. I am not insane, i have proof that i have north african/berber ancestry. and im not saying one calculator is more accurate for me because many are accurate for me, Dodecad is, MDLP is, Gedrosia is, some puntDNAL tests are too, just not the K15 or K10 african test. Because i am not fully african.

and who's most people? Europeans? Arabs? West asians? East asians? yes ofcourse it's a bullshit test for them because they dont have any significant SSA ancestry, i do. 21% west african and and roughly 1/4 berber is enough to make the test work for me.


yknow, i can see that you are trying really hard to proof me otherwise that i am not berber or arab at all. but what will you gain from all this commotion? nothing. at the end of the day i still know i am 1/4 ssa, 1/4 berber, and 1/2 european and thats the end of that story exactly.


and you are correct, i dont properly know my heritage but what i do know from 1/2 years of research is that i am definitely not 70% european.


have a good day/night wherever you are my middle eastern friend.

[Congolese Rice]

Muh Ethiohelix is accurate xD

North Dutch guy

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 French 82.3
2 North-Africa 14.5
3 Omotic 3.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 french 25.01
2 egypt 32.27
3 egyptans 35.92
4 libya 49.75
5 algeria 67.29
6 morocco-n 68.31
7 EtA 75.14
8 EtT 76.19
9 ethiopian-jews 76.59
10 EtT-P 77.28
11 moroccans 78.31
12 EtA-P 80.08
13 Afar 81.18
14 EtO-P 83.63
15 EtO 89.61
16 morocco-s 90.76
17 Wolayta 92.96
18 EtS-P 93.41
19 sahara-occ 93.82
20 Somali 93.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79% french + 21% sahara-occ @ 1.66
2 72.9% french + 27.1% algeria @ 1.69
3 66.6% french + 33.4% libya @ 1.84
4 75.8% french + 24.2% moroccans @ 1.9
5 73.3% french + 26.7% morocco-n @ 2.18
6 83.5% french + 16.5% mozabite @ 3.79
7 56.5% french + 43.5% egypt @ 4.98
8 78.7% french + 21.3% morocco-s @ 5.19
9 59.3% french + 40.7% egyptans @ 6.09
10 82.1% french + 17.9% fulani @ 11.35
11 77.2% french + 22.8% EtA @ 12.16
12 77.7% french + 22.3% EtT @ 12.64
13 77.9% french + 22.1% ethiopian-jews @ 12.88
14 78.6% french + 21.4% EtT-P @ 14.09
15 81.1% french + 18.9% EtO @ 14.18
16 79.4% french + 20.6% EtA-P @ 14.4
17 80.2% french + 19.8% EtO-P @ 14.48
18 79.8% french + 20.2% Afar @ 14.8
19 82.3% french + 17.7% Somali @ 15.05
20 82.9% french + 17.1% hema @ 15.11

North Italian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 French 72.69
2 North-Africa 24.42
3 Omotic 2.89

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 egypt 20.91
2 egyptans 25.05
3 libya 35.74
4 french 39.71
5 algeria 52.52
6 morocco-n 53.5
7 moroccans 63.55
8 EtA 66.21
9 EtT 67.57
10 ethiopian-jews 68.12
11 EtT-P 69.83
12 EtA-P 72.75
13 Afar 74.13
14 EtO-P 76.19
15 morocco-s 76.76
16 sahara-occ 79.07
17 EtO 81.52
18 EtS-P 86.23
19 Somali 86.57
20 Wolayta 86.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.9% french + 43.1% algeria @ 0.62
2 66.6% french + 33.4% sahara-occ @ 0.87
3 57.4% french + 42.6% morocco-n @ 1.05
4 61.6% french + 38.4% moroccans @ 1.4
5 73.5% french + 26.5% mozabite @ 3.39
6 52.7% libya + 47.3% french @ 5.44
7 66.3% french + 33.7% morocco-s @ 8.5
8 67.9% egypt + 32.1% french @ 10.48
9 63.3% egyptans + 36.7% french @ 12.21
10 71.8% french + 28.2% fulani @ 18.66
11 100% egypt + 0% !kung @ 20.91
12 100% egypt + 0% ARI-B @ 20.91
13 100% egypt + 0% ARI-C @ 20.91
14 100% egypt + 0% Afar @ 20.91
15 100% egypt + 0% Anuak @ 20.91
16 100% egypt + 0% EtA @ 20.91
17 100% egypt + 0% EtA-P @ 20.91
18 100% egypt + 0% EtO @ 20.91
19 100% egypt + 0% EtO-P @ 20.91
20 100% egypt + 0% EtS-P @ 20.91

Actual French from central France

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 French 80.29
2 North-Africa 16.54
3 Omotic 2.12
4 Hadza 1.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 french 27.99
2 egypt 30.07
3 egyptans 33.85
4 libya 46.99
5 algeria 64.27
6 morocco-n 65.26
7 EtA 73.57
8 EtT 74.68
9 ethiopian-jews 75.1
10 moroccans 75.28
11 EtT-P 76.12
12 EtA-P 78.92
13 Afar 80.1
14 EtO-P 82.41
15 morocco-s 87.82
16 EtO 88.14
17 sahara-occ 90.8
18 Wolayta 92.05
19 EtS-P 92.29
20 Somali 92.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.5% french + 23.5% sahara-occ @ 1.26
2 69.7% french + 30.3% algeria @ 1.43
3 72.9% french + 27.1% moroccans @ 1.51
4 70% french + 30% morocco-n @ 1.63
5 81.4% french + 18.6% mozabite @ 3.26
6 62.8% french + 37.2% libya @ 3.41
7 76.2% french + 23.8% morocco-s @ 5.58
8 51.9% french + 48.1% egypt @ 6.92
9 55.1% french + 44.9% egyptans @ 8.12
10 79.9% french + 20.1% fulani @ 12.68
11 75.1% french + 24.9% EtA @ 14.59
12 75.6% french + 24.4% EtT @ 15.11
13 75.8% french + 24.2% ethiopian-jews @ 15.34
14 79.4% french + 20.6% EtO @ 16.62
15 76.8% french + 23.2% EtT-P @ 16.79
16 77.7% french + 22.3% EtA-P @ 17.09
17 78.5% french + 21.5% EtO-P @ 17.13
18 81% french + 19% hema @ 17.23
19 78.2% french + 21.8% Afar @ 17.55
20 81.4% french + 18.6% maasai @ 17.55


yes, accurate for people with actual SSA ancestry, not europeans and people like you.

[Aren]

Well didnt you guys do the exact same thing to me before? you pick out a single calculator and use that as a reference for my entire ethnic breakdown. Trust me, if anybody knows my breakdown better than anyone on this forum it's me. I know my families better than you guys, not 100%, but i know them better. So i can get a better picture of my ethnicity.

Besides, i could easily believe it that many assyrians dont necessarily have to score alot of european. But frankly some do, whether it be 5%, 6%, or 20% it's still there.

And no shit ethiohelix gives you less informative results than me because you arent even african to begin with. I am not insane, i have proof that i have north african/berber ancestry. and im not saying one calculator is more accurate for me because many are accurate for me, Dodecad is, MDLP is, Gedrosia is, some puntDNAL tests are too, just not the K15 or K10 african test. Because i am not fully african.

and who's most people? Europeans? Arabs? West asians? East asians? yes ofcourse it's a bullshit test for them because they dont have any significant SSA ancestry, i do. 21% west african and and roughly 1/4 berber is enough to make the test work for me.


yknow, i can see that you are trying really hard to proof me otherwise that i am not berber or arab at all. but what will you gain from all this commotion? nothing. at the end of the day i still know i am 1/4 ssa, 1/4 berber, and 1/2 european and thats the end of that story exactly.


and you are correct, i dont properly know my heritage but what i do know from 1/2 years of research is that i am definitely not 70% european.


have a good day/night wherever you are my middle eastern friend.

How do you know you have Berber or Arab? Actual documentation or cherry picked calculators from Gedmatch?
PM me your Gedmatch kit and I'll run it through the calcs myself, let me help you here.

No one who is partly Berber or Arab would score that low East Med and Red Sea with Eurogenes K13, I knew already from there that you are confused regarding your heritage.

[Aren]

yes, accurate for people with actual SSA ancestry, not europeans and people like you.

If Europeans are already scoring 15% North African and 75% French + 25% North African in the oracle then your results are gonna be skewed that's my point. It doesn't matter how much European or black you are it's a really really bad and outdated calculator. Dunno why you are so focused on it.

[Congolese Rice]

How do you know you have Berber or Arab? Actual documentation or cherry picked calculators from Gedmatch?
PM me your Gedmatch kit and I'll run it through the calcs myself, let me help you here.

No one who is partly Berber or Arab would score that low East Med and Red Sea with Eurogenes K13, I knew already from there that you are confused regarding your heritage.

and he goes back to eurogenes K13 again. eurogenes K13 has nothing to do with my results. i have proof from Doug McDonald Mephisto from Anthrogenica, he said i definitely had matches from the Maghreb/Egypt region, and that it was ATLEAST 14%>. I have gedmatch, and many other tests outside of gedmatch that i can use to proof to you but no, you are a stubborn fella and you just dont believe me. you have this vision of eurogenes K13 being accurate for every single individual, and if you dont score it there. then you arent it at all.

look at my gedrosia K12, my ethiohelix result, look at the pop approx. and there's your evidence.


nothing is cherry picked because i tried out every calculator to see which one gave me lowest oracles and which ones gave me most accurate percentages, i am so sorry that Eurogenes K13 is not one of them. i cant help it.


you dont have to help me because after doing all these tests, and calculating my average european from 26 gedmatch tests i know that what i say is correct.


besides why do you bother so much with me and my ethnic breakdown? does your live depend on it? will you lose a bet? did you tell the devil that if i was berber he'd have your soul? xD what's the problem friend, you can clearly see that i am not 70% european, definitely not 75% dutch, and many other things alike.

do you feel like its your duty to go harass people who are just trying to share their results? So far everything i've posted to you you said it's either bullshit, inaccurate, or all trash. But who are you to tell me what tests are trash for me and what my ethnic breakdown is?

ive been through this argument with too many people today, i am done with it. I wish you a pleasant day/night. this conversation is closed.

[Congolese Rice]

If Europeans are already scoring 15% North African and 75% French + 25% North African in the oracle then your results are gonna be skewed that's my point. It doesn't matter how much European or black you are it's a really really bad and outdated calculator. Dunno why you are so focused on it.

you are super focused on my ethnic breakdown and on eurogenes K13. yes it might be a really really super ultra bad calculator but it still manages to break my ethnicity down better than your splinter new eurogenes k13 ;)

have a pleasant day.

[Aren]

and he goes back to eurogenes K13 again. eurogenes K13 has nothing to do with my results. i have proof from Doug McDonald Mephisto from Anthrogenica, he said i definitely had matches from the Maghreb/Egypt region, and that it was ATLEAST 14%>. I have gedmatch, and many other tests outside of gedmatch that i can use to proof to you but no, you are a stubborn fella and you just dont believe me. you have this vision of eurogenes K13 being accurate for every single individual, and if you dont score it there. then you arent it at all.

look at my gedrosia K12, my ethiohelix result, look at the pop approx. and there's your evidence.


nothing is cherry picked because i tried out every calculator to see which one gave me lowest oracles and which ones gave me most accurate percentages, i am so sorry that Eurogenes K13 is not one of them. i cant help it.


you dont have to help me because after doing all these tests, and calculating my average european from 26 gedmatch tests i know that what i say is correct.


besides why do you bother so much with me and my ethnic breakdown? does your live depend on it? will you lose a bet? did you tell the devil that if i was berber he'd have your soul? xD what's the problem friend, you can clearly see that i am not 70% european, definitely not 75% dutch, and many other things alike.

do you feel like its your duty to go harass people who are just trying to share their results? So far everything i've posted to you you said it's either bullshit, inaccurate, or all trash. But who are you to tell me what tests are trash for me and what my ethnic breakdown is?

ive been through this argument with too many people today, i am done with it. I wish you a pleasant day/night. this conversation is closed.

HAHAHAH McDonald that old bastard. I mean man you are lost.

I keep mentioning Eurogenes K13 because it's the most accurate calculator on Gedmatch along some others like Harappa world.

You are obsessed with a calculator no one uses anymore, Ethiofelix is not accurate for anyone except those who are pred. SSA.

Hey just PM me your kit nr. What are you scared of?

[Aren]

you are super focused on my ethnic breakdown and on eurogenes K13. yes it might be a really really super ultra bad calculator but it still manages to break my ethnicity down better than your splinter new eurogenes k13 ;)

have a pleasant day.

You don't even know your ancestry lol. You want to be part Berber/Arabian even though you have no clue. So all calculators that aren't giving you what you want to see are inaccurate. That's why you've restorted to using the most inaccurate and oldest ones on Gedmatch.

[Congolese Rice]

HAHAHAH McDonald that old bastard. I mean man you are lost.

I keep mentioning Eurogenes K13 because it's the most accurate calculator on Gedmatch along some others like Harappa world.

You are obsessed with a calculator no one uses anymore, Ethiofelix is not accurate for anyone except those who are pred. SSA.

Hey just PM me your kit nr. What are you scared of?


yes, it may be accurate for some people along with harappaworld (which is a calculator made for south asians by the way but np) but not all.

there are even europeans that consider gedrosia to have better results for them, i think its you who needs to get better at gedmatch and not me. You think Eurogenes K13 works well for everybody's ethnicity well you are wrong. Go ask people around you, you will hear many different opinions.

one finds dodecad V3 best for their ethnicity, the other picks harappaworld, the other picks MDLP K16 because he thinks its best with his known ethnicity.

And I pick Gedrosia, and EthioHelix because they are most accurate for me.

i think you really need to read up on some basics and calculators because you are completely generalizing the eurogenes calculator. but what i hear from your experience is that its very good for your ethnic breakdown. well, good for you. but i am not a assyrian or european. it's not good for me and you need to learn to respect that.

I respect your opinion you have to respect mine.

And no, i will not pm you my kit nr. because i already gave it 2 someone else. i prefer to keep it mostly personal. I am scared of nothing, you are just denying all evidence i bring you, and you come up with some dumb excuse for it "well yeah, eurogenes K13 is the most accurate calculator on gedmatch, nobody uses your stupid calculator anymore hehe nerdd"

the thing you dont understand is, there's no such thing as "The most accurate calculator on gedmatch" because every calculator works differently with one's ethnic background, i dont know how many times i have to explain it to you but i think you're the lost sheep ;)


have a good day