Bosnian Muslim Y-DNA results (273 samples)

[Bosniensis]

I2/I2a/I2a1/I2a1a/I2a1b: 43.4%
R1a: 15%
E1b: 11.2%
I1: 7.9%
J2a: 6.4%
R1b-U106: 1.9%
G2: 1.5%
J2b1-M205: 1.5%
J2b2: 1.5%
N2: 1.5%
R1b-U152: 1.5%
I2a2-M223: 1.1%
J1: 1.1%
R1b-L23: 1.1%
R1b-M269+: 1.1%
G/G1: 0.7%
L1: 0.7%
T: 0.7%
R1b-PF7562: 0.4%

[Pribislav]

I2a can not be 55% among Muslims from whole B&H, as it's written on Eupedia.

Only Muslims Herzegovina from can have that % of I2a.

[Bosniensis]

I2a can not be 55% among Muslims from whole B&H.

Only Muslims Herzegovina from can have that % of I2a.

40%-50% avg on whole territory.

[CommonSense]

Looks pretty similar to the Serbian results. They have more i2a and less e1b1b, but that's it.

[Pribislav]

I2/I2a/I2a1/I2a1a/I2a1b: 43.4%
R1a: 15%
E1b: 11.2%
I1: 7.9%
J2a: 6.4%
R1b-U106: 1.9%
G2: 1.5%
J2b1-M205: 1.5%
J2b2: 1.5%
N2: 1.5%
R1b-U152: 1.5%
I2a2-M223: 1.1%
J1: 1.1%
R1b-L23: 1.1%
R1b-M269+: 1.1%
G/G1: 0.7%
L1: 0.7%
T: 0.7%
R1b-PF7562: 0.4%

Sample is 267, this is the original post https://www.poreklo.rs/forum/index.php?topic=1471.msg96244#msg96244

% of haplogroups are very similar as for Herzegovinian Serbs.

Herzegovinian Serbs (sample 328)

https://forum.krstarica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=487276&d=1523881742

[Bosniensis]

267 - 273 same thing xD

[safinator]

More R1b-U106 and U-152 than L-23 and M-269, odd.

[Pribislav]

267 - 273 same thing xD

Total I (I2a1b+ I1+I2-M223) is 52,4%, are you satisfied?

[Bosniensis]

Total I (I2a1b+ I1+I2-M223) is 52,4%, are you satisfied?

Almost :D


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[Pribislav]

I2/I2a/I2a1/I2a1a/I2a1b: 43.4%
R1a: 15%
E1b: 11.2%
I1: 7.9%
J2a: 6.4%
R1b-U106: 1.9%
G2: 1.5%
J2b1-M205: 1.5%
J2b2: 1.5%
N2: 1.5%
R1b-U152: 1.5%
I2a2-M223: 1.1%
J1: 1.1%
R1b-L23: 1.1%
R1b-M269+: 1.1%
G/G1: 0.7%
L1: 0.7%
T: 0.7%
R1b-PF7562: 0.4%

Bosnian Serbs (sample 380), for the comparation
https://i.imgur.com/11TNVjt.png

Y DNA of Bosnian muslims is more similar to Y DNA of Herzegovinian Serbs than of Bosnian Serbs. :rolleyes:

[Bosniensis]

Smart Serbs are from Herzegovina, everything good that happened on Balkans came from Herzegovina.


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[Pribislav]

Smart Serbs are from Herzegovina, everything good that happened on Balkans came from Herzegovina.


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Jovan Deretić is from Herzegovina. :coffee:

Do you agree with him about this? :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3AxvQlWkN4

[Haider]

How much does Bosnian Muslims' Y-Dna distribution differ from their Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Croats counterparts?

[Pribislav]

How much does Bosnian Muslims' Y-Dna distribution differ from their Bosnian Serb and Bosnian Croats counterparts?

I puted results of Bosnian and Herzegovinian Serbs. Bosnian Muslims are closer to Herzegovinian Serbs than to Bosnian Serbs in terms % of Y DNA.

For Bosnian Croatians results are disputable, because sample is to small and it's taken only in few towns not in whole territory where Croatians live in B&H.
Autosomally Bosnian Serbs, Bosnian Muslims and Bosnia Croatians are identical.
Bosniensis mach with one Serbian guy on Y DNA, their ancestor by line probably lived 300-400 years ago.

[Bosniensis]

Jovan Deretić is from Herzegovina. :coffee:

Do you agree with him about this? :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3AxvQlWkN4

Latinized Illyrians (South Slavs) and Thracians (South Slavs + Romanians) are Romans.

Latin language we used to talk in the past was as foreign as Turkish.

Latinized People were considered foreigners just like Turkified people.

Slavic language originated on Balkans and Thrace, Russians before that spoke Germanic and Turkic langauges

All Slavic toponyms and oldest Slavic toponyms are from Balkans.. you can't find any in Russia.

Perun, Kresnik had temples on Balkans in 2nd century A.D.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

All Slavic toponyms and oldest Slavic toponyms are from Balkans.. you can't find any in Russia.

Perun, Kresnik had temples on Balkans in 2nd century A.D.

Totally incorrect. The oldest Slavic toponyms are from Western Ukraine and south-eastern Poland. Why you just don't admit finally that Slavic languages came from there.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

For Bosniensis ----> Here is the truth about Slavic hydronymy:

http://i68.tinypic.com/2m3ha2t.jpg

[Bosniensis]

Totally incorrect. The oldest Slavic toponyms are from Western Ukraine and south-eastern Poland. Why you just don't admit finally that Slavic languages came from there.

I have two theories, both denouncing one another ... It seems that (i mean it is possible) that Slavs had Slavic villages, temples on Balkans even before migrations they probably traded with Balkan people.

Both Illyrian and Slavic temples are mixed with one another like they co-existed.

Mindfuck.

[Hudayar]

I2a can not be 55% among Muslims from whole B&H, as it's written on Eupedia.

Only Muslims Herzegovina from can have that % of I2a.

do you take eupedia seriously

[Bosniensis]

For Bosniensis ----> Here is the truth about Slavic hydronymy:

http://i68.tinypic.com/2m3ha2t.jpg

That is homeplace of Cimmerians who lived there up to 8th century B.C.

Maybe Cimmerians had I2 haplogroup who got assimilated by Slavs.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

That is homeplace of Cimmerians who lived there up to 8th century B.C.

Maybe Cimmerians had I2 haplogroup who got assimilated by Slavs.

Again, Slavic oldest hydronyms have nothing (in any case) with Balkan, but with Ukraine/Belarus/Poland.

See it in this way: Reconstructed proto-Slavic language didn't have many Latin/Greek loanwords (in 4th-5h) century, but adopted many of them later. Which says that Slavs in 4th century were warriors from marshes and villages of Central-Eastern Europe.

[Pribislav]

Bosniaks from East Bosnia (Podrinje, Romanija, Glasinac)
Sample 37
I2 (13) - 35,1%
I1 (7) - 18,9%
E1b (6) - 16,2%
R1a (5) - 13,5%
R1b (2) - 5,4%
J2a (1) - 2,7%
J2b1 (1) - 2,7%
J2b2 (1) - 2,7%
N2-P189.2 (1) - 2,7%

Source: 23andMe, FTDNA, Bosniak DNA project, Serbian DNA project


Bosniaks from Western Bosnia (Pounje, Podgrmečje, Potkozarje, Cazinska Krajina)
Sample 44
I2-M423/Y3120 (16) - 36,4%
R1a-M417 (8) - 18,2%
N-P189.2 (3) - 6,8%
J2b1-M205 (3) - 6,8%
E-V13 (2) - 4,5%
I1-M253 (2) - 4,5%
R1b-M269 (2) - 4,5%
G-M201 (1) - 2,3%
G2a (1) - 2,3%
J2b-M241 (1) - 2,3%
G1 (1) - 2,3%
J2a-M410 (1) - 2,3%
J1 (1) - 2,3%
T1 (1) - 2,3%
L-M22 (1) - 2,3%

Source: Bosniak DNA project, 23andMe

[Dick]

There must be way more haplogroup I in south Slavs than any other haplogroup.

[Pribislav]

There must be way more haplogroup I in south Slavs than any other haplogroup.

Total I (all branches) on average among Serbs is about 46%. Among Croatians is little less due to lower I1. Among Bosniaks (from BiH) is about 50%.

[Pribislav]

Y dna of Bosniaks from Cazinska Krajina (Western Bosnia)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/K1_Una_Sana.png
https://forum.krstarica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=535897&d=1551734459