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Sikeliot
09-22-2018, 09:32 PM
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.15
2 West_Med 23.22
3 North_Atlantic 16.03
4 West_Asian 13.5
5 Baltic 12.26
6 Red_Sea 6.19
7 East_Asian 1.19
8 Sub-Saharan 0.84
9 Oceanian 0.5
10 South_Asian 0.49
11 Siberian 0.4
12 Amerindian 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 4.9
2 East_Sicilian 5.63
3 Greek_Thessaly 5.97
4 West_Sicilian 7.34
5 Italian_Abruzzo 7.39
6 South_Italian 8.32
7 Ashkenazi 9.9
8 Tuscan 10.94
9 Algerian_Jewish 13.76
10 Bulgarian 13.94
11 Sephardic_Jewish 14.32
12 Italian_Jewish 14.6
13 North_Italian 16.01
14 Romanian 16.05
15 Tunisian_Jewish 17.93
16 Libyan_Jewish 18.29
17 Cyprian 19.61
18 Serbian 20.17
19 Turkish 21.65
20 Lebanese_Muslim 22.67

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86% East_Sicilian + 14% Moldavian @ 3.83
2 52.7% East_Sicilian + 47.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.92
3 60.6% Central_Greek + 39.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.93
4 89.6% Central_Greek + 10.4% Moldavian @ 3.94
5 89.7% East_Sicilian + 10.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.96
6 77.6% South_Italian + 22.4% Moldavian @ 3.97
7 92.4% Central_Greek + 7.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.98
8 87.7% East_Sicilian + 12.3% Croatian @ 3.99
9 90.9% Central_Greek + 9.1% Croatian @ 4
10 90.2% East_Sicilian + 9.8% Ukrainian @ 4.01
11 77.2% East_Sicilian + 22.8% Bulgarian @ 4.01
12 92.8% Central_Greek + 7.2% Ukrainian @ 4.02
13 93.8% Central_Greek + 6.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.04
14 93.5% Central_Greek + 6.5% Polish @ 4.07
15 82.7% South_Italian + 17.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.07
16 93.9% Central_Greek + 6.1% Estonian_Polish @ 4.08
17 91.6% East_Sicilian + 8.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.08
18 94.1% Central_Greek + 5.9% Erzya @ 4.08
19 93.8% Central_Greek + 6.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.09
20 91.8% East_Sicilian + 8.2% Erzya @ 4.1

Bobby Martnen
09-22-2018, 09:32 PM
Greek?

Sikeliot
09-22-2018, 09:55 PM
Greek?

Which region of Greece would you assume provided that it is a Greek person?

Rgvgjhvv
09-22-2018, 09:59 PM
Low East Med means most likely not islander. But their single population results are in a very similar order to mine, except our West Sicily and South Italian are flipped.

Hmmmm

Coolguy1
09-22-2018, 10:00 PM
Aegean islander or Maniot

Livin
09-22-2018, 10:02 PM
Aegean

Tauromachos
09-22-2018, 10:04 PM
Could be a Maniot or other type of South Peloponnesian

Rgvgjhvv
09-22-2018, 10:05 PM
Could be a Maniot or other type of South Peloponnesian

That would probably be my guess in the end

Tauromachos
09-22-2018, 10:06 PM
That would probably be my guess in the end

East Med is not to low to be an Islander

But he has also higher Baltic

Livin
09-22-2018, 10:07 PM
East Med is not to low to be an Islander

But he has also higher Baltic

And north atlantic.

Rgvgjhvv
09-22-2018, 10:08 PM
East Med is not to low to be an Islander

But he has also higher Baltic

I am half islander and mine is just over 30. This is what I was basing it off of

Tauromachos
09-22-2018, 10:15 PM
I am half islander and mine is just over 30. This is what I was basing it off of

Yeah thats high for an Islander but also not atypical

Most Islanders get between 25 and 30

Rgvgjhvv
09-22-2018, 10:18 PM
Yeah thats high for an Islander but also not atypical

Most Islanders get between 25 and 30

Islanders would have the highest East Med out of all Greeks correct?

Tauromachos
09-22-2018, 10:26 PM
Islanders would have the highest East Med out of all Greeks correct?

Their average is in the 25% or 30% range i think
Some can have a bit more than 30

Among Islanders i think Cypriots have highest East Med 30%+

Mainland East Med average is definetly lower than Islanders but some of the more Southern shifted Mainlanders
score about 26% to 27%

Livin
09-22-2018, 10:27 PM
Their average is in the 25% or 30% range i think
Some can have a bit more than 30

Among Islanders i think Cypriots have highest East Med 30%+

Mainland East Med average is definetly lower than Islanders but some of the more Southern shifted Mainlanders
score about 26% to 27%

Cretans dosnt have high east med aswell or not?If i remember well some individuals were scoring very high east med.

Tauromachos
09-22-2018, 10:35 PM
Cretans dosnt have high east med aswell or not?If i remember well some individuals were scoring very high east med.

Cretans i think most of them about 30% higher than Aegean Islanders in general

Livin
09-22-2018, 10:38 PM
Cretans i think most of them about 30% higher than Aegean Islanders in general

And whos scoring the highest west asia with exception Pontians and anatolian greeks?

Tauromachos
09-22-2018, 10:39 PM
And whos scoring the highest west asia with exception Pontians or anatolian greeks?

Probably Cypriots,Dodecanese and some Cretans

How much West Asian do Pontians score?

Sikeliot
09-22-2018, 10:44 PM
Hint; they are one of mine.

So guess the region :)

Livin
09-22-2018, 10:44 PM
Probably Cypriots,Dodecanese and some Cretans

How much West Asian do Pontians score?

Very high close to 40 !!!!


We score mostly west asia and east med.

Joso
09-22-2018, 10:45 PM
Which region of Greece would you assume provided that it is a Greek person?

Peloponese Greek

Rgvgjhvv
09-22-2018, 10:46 PM
Hint; they are one of mine.

So guess the region :)

What does that mean?

Sikeliot
09-22-2018, 10:47 PM
What does that mean?

They are from Italy somewhere. But the question is -- where?

Tauromachos
09-22-2018, 10:47 PM
Very high close to 40 !!!!


We score mostly west asia and east med.

No i think no one else scores that high not even Dodecanese

Joso
09-22-2018, 10:47 PM
Hint; they are one of mine.

So guess the region :)

I think you didn't completed the sentence lol
one of your relatives, you mean?

Tauromachos
09-22-2018, 10:48 PM
They are from Italy somewhere. But the question is -- where?

Trapani?

Livin
09-22-2018, 10:50 PM
No i think no one else scores that high not even Dodecanese

Dodecanese and Cretans have ancestry mostly by Minoans thats why the score some west asia.

Joso
09-22-2018, 10:52 PM
They are from Italy somewhere. But the question is -- where?

Puglia?

Sikeliot
09-22-2018, 10:54 PM
Neither Apulia nor Trapani.

Tauromachos
09-22-2018, 10:58 PM
Neither Apulia nor Trapani.

Then somewhere in the North

Venetia?

Joso
09-22-2018, 10:58 PM
Neither Apulia nor Trapani.

Campania?

Sikeliot
09-22-2018, 11:06 PM
They are southern Italian.

Tauromachos
09-22-2018, 11:07 PM
They are southern Italian.

Abruzzo?

Joso
09-22-2018, 11:08 PM
They are southern Italian.

Calabria?

Sikeliot
09-22-2018, 11:14 PM
Calabria?

Do you really think someone scoring 12% Baltic could be Calabrese? :lol:

Tauromachos
09-22-2018, 11:16 PM
Castillia

Joso
09-22-2018, 11:21 PM
Do you really think someone scoring 12% Baltic could be Calabrese? :lol:

lol Ok, he also have nort atlantic, he seens to be a mix of north and south, so maybe he s from the south but near the middle, then i guess Molise

Bobby Martnen
09-23-2018, 01:03 AM
Which region of Greece would you assume provided that it is a Greek person?

Half Rhodian, half Arcadian?

Sikeliot
09-23-2018, 01:39 AM
Half Rhodian, half Arcadian?

They are Sicilian, from Syracuse.

I have never seen a Sicilian with so much Baltic.

Livin
09-23-2018, 01:43 AM
They are Sicilian, from Syracuse.

I have never seen a Sicilian with so much Baltic.


How’s that?

Sikeliot
09-23-2018, 02:03 AM
How’s that?

Syracusans seem to plot close to Mani, Cyclades, and western Crete. This means that they are a bit "northeast" shifted compared to other Sicilians, and end up toward mainland Greeks, likely there was mainland Greek input when it was under Byzantine rule that also included some Slavic, or Greeks settled there more recently in the last 1000 years after they had been mixed with the Slavs.

Compare the result to that of a Palermitan relative of mine who has very little Baltic and much higher East Med:


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.31
2 West_Med 20.91
3 North_Atlantic 18.65
4 West_Asian 13.67
5 Red_Sea 6.71
6 Baltic 4.15
7 Northeast_African 1.17
8 Sub-Saharan 0.91
9 Oceanian 0.7
10 Siberian 0.58
11 East_Asian 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 3.73
2 East_Sicilian 5.28
3 Sephardic_Jewish 5.72
4 West_Sicilian 5.93
5 Italian_Jewish 6.63
6 Central_Greek 6.89
7 Italian_Abruzzo 7.05
8 Ashkenazi 7.51
9 Algerian_Jewish 7.72
10 Tunisian_Jewish 10.36
11 Libyan_Jewish 11.21
12 Tuscan 12.51
13 Greek_Thessaly 12.87
14 Cyprian 14.87
15 Lebanese_Muslim 17.92
16 Syrian 18.91
17 North_Italian 19.05
18 Turkish 20.54
19 Samaritan 20.89
20 Jordanian 21.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 44.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.51
2 54.7% Lebanese_Christian + 45.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.7
3 51% Sephardic_Jewish + 49% West_Sicilian @ 1.82
4 60% Italian_Abruzzo + 40% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.89
5 64.7% Cyprian + 35.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.89
6 55.9% Lebanese_Christian + 44.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.07
7 51.7% Italian_Jewish + 48.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.08
8 56.7% Lebanese_Christian + 43.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.12
9 58.6% Lebanese_Christian + 41.4% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.18
10 70% Sephardic_Jewish + 30% Tuscan @ 2.18
11 66% Cyprian + 34% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.19
12 56.7% Lebanese_Christian + 43.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.21
13 62.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 37.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.22
14 55% Lebanese_Christian + 45% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.23
15 78.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 21.7% North_Italian @ 2.26
16 58.7% Lebanese_Christian + 41.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.34
17 64.3% Cyprian + 35.7% Portuguese @ 2.36
18 52.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 47.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.37
19 54.1% Lebanese_Christian + 45.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.4
20 80.3% West_Sicilian + 19.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.44

Tauromachos
09-23-2018, 02:15 AM
Syracusans seem to plot close to Mani, Cyclades, and western Crete. This means that they are a bit "northeast" shifted compared to other Sicilians, and end up toward mainland Greeks, likely there was mainland Greek input when it was under Byzantine rule that also included some Slavic, or Greeks settled there more recently in the last 1000 years after they had been mixed with the Slavs.

But this is not the average Baltic score for the region

Even many Maniots have lower Baltic than him

So he is clearly an outlier in that direction




Compare the result to that of a Palermitan relative of mine who has very little Baltic and much higher East Med:

Palermitans sometimes have only 1-2% Baltic they are probably the people with the lowest Baltic in all of Europe even lower
than that of Aegean Greeks
So there is nothing to compare realy

Bobby Martnen
09-23-2018, 06:37 AM
They are Sicilian, from Syracuse.

I have never seen a Sicilian with so much Baltic.

Maybe an NPE with a Balkanite?