Afrikaner Gedmatch

[FilhoV]

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 44.27
2 Baltic 20.77
3 West_Med 13.52
4 West_Asian 8.05
5 East_Med 6.42
6 Sub-Saharan 3.77
7 South_Asian 1.43
8 East_Asian 1.34
9 Red_Sea 0.32
10 Siberian 0.11
11 Amerindian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 5.36
2 South_Dutch 5.47
3 Southeast_English 8.16
4 North_German 8.52
5 French 9.1
6 Southwest_English 9.24
7 Orcadian 9.33
8 Danish 9.43
9 North_Dutch 9.53
10 Irish 9.93
11 West_Scottish 10.37
12 Austrian 11.32
13 Norwegian 11.65
14 Swedish 12.4
15 East_German 12.71
16 Hungarian 15.32
17 Spanish_Cataluna 15.91
18 North_Swedish 16.97
19 Spanish_Galicia 17.08
20 Portuguese 17.2

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.4% South_Dutch + 3.6% Yoruban @ 3.35
2 96.2% South_Dutch + 3.8% Mandenka @ 3.39
3 96.1% South_Dutch + 3.9% Bantu_S.W. @ 3.42
4 96.1% South_Dutch + 3.9% Bantu_S.E. @ 3.44
5 96% South_Dutch + 4% Biaka_Pygmy @ 3.54
6 95.9% South_Dutch + 4.1% Luhya @ 3.64
7 95.9% South_Dutch + 4.1% Bantu_N.E. @ 3.66
8 96.7% West_German + 3.3% Yoruban @ 3.7
9 96.6% West_German + 3.4% Mandenka @ 3.78
10 95.9% South_Dutch + 4.1% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 3.83
11 96.6% West_German + 3.4% Bantu_S.W. @ 3.84
12 96.5% West_German + 3.5% Bantu_S.E. @ 3.86
13 96.5% West_German + 3.5% Biaka_Pygmy @ 3.98
14 96% South_Dutch + 4% San @ 4.06
15 96.5% West_German + 3.5% Luhya @ 4.08
16 96.5% West_German + 3.5% Bantu_N.E. @ 4.11
17 96.6% West_German + 3.4% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 4.27
18 96.8% West_German + 3.2% San @ 4.49
19 96.9% South_Dutch + 3.1% Sudanese @ 4.69
20 96.6% South_Dutch + 3.4% Sandawe

[FilhoV]

MDLP K23b Oracle results:

MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 33.19
2 European_Early_Farmers 25.18
3 Caucasian 23.58
4 South_Central_Asian 6.12
5 Ancestral_Altaic 5.21
6 Subsaharian 1.57
7 South_Indian 1.1
8 Archaic_African 1
9 African_Pygmy 0.87
10 Khoisan 0.86
11 North_African 0.48
12 East_African 0.38
13 Near_East 0.33
14 Paleo_Siberian 0.11
15 Archaic_Human 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Dutch ( ) 3.5
2 German-Volga ( ) 3.73
3 South_German ( ) 4.2
4 North_German ( ) 4.71
5 Frisian ( ) 4.98
6 Belgian ( ) 5.41
7 Irish ( ) 6.3
8 Dane ( ) 6.6
9 English ( ) 7.18
10 Swede ( ) 7.67
11 Austrian ( ) 8.36
12 Norwegian_East ( ) 8.54
13 North_European ( ) 8.92
14 Swede_Saami ( ) 9.23
15 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 9.53
16 German_East ( ) 9.84
17 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 10.47
18 CEU ( ) 11.06
19 German ( ) 11.18
20 Italian_North ( ) 11.36

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.3% Norwegian_West ( ) + 12.7% Georgian_Laz ( ) @ 2.3
2 86.9% Norwegian_West ( ) + 13.1% Georgian_Tbilisi ( ) @ 2.4
3 87% Norwegian_West ( ) + 13% Georgian_Imereti ( ) @ 2.41
4 76.7% Frisian ( ) + 23.3% Czech ( ) @ 2.41
5 90.5% Belgian ( ) + 9.5% Tabassaran ( ) @ 2.45
6 86.5% Norwegian_West ( ) + 13.5% Georgian_Megrelia ( ) @ 2.48
7 90.5% Dutch ( ) + 9.5% Kosovar ( ) @ 2.48
8 85.1% Norwegian_West ( ) + 14.9% Turk_Trabzon ( ) @ 2.49
9 81.3% Frisian ( ) + 18.7% Ukrainian_West ( ) @ 2.49
10 78.2% Irish ( ) + 21.8% Croat_BH ( ) @ 2.5
11 90.8% Belgian ( ) + 9.2% Avar ( ) @ 2.5
12 78.1% Frisian ( ) + 21.9% Slovak ( ) @ 2.5
13 90.5% Belgian ( ) + 9.5% Dargin_Urkarah ( ) @ 2.51
14 82.9% Frisian ( ) + 17.1% Belarusian_West ( ) @ 2.51
15 90.5% Belgian ( ) + 9.5% Lak ( ) @ 2.52
16 83.5% Frisian ( ) + 16.5% Ukrainian_Center ( ) @ 2.52
17 83.8% Frisian ( ) + 16.2% Ukrainian_East ( ) @ 2.53
18 77.4% Irish ( ) + 22.6% Bosnian ( ) @ 2.53
19 91.8% Dutch ( ) + 8.2% Albanian_Tirana ( ) @ 2.53
20 90.8% Belgian ( ) + 9.2% Lezgin ( )

[FilhoV]

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 0.96
Basque 4.93
Central_African 0.27
Central_Euro 4.20
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.96
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.02
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 2.44
Fennoscandian 9.92
French 9.72
Iberian 9.73
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.22
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 14.04
North_Caucasian 3.53
North_Sea 16.62
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy 0.72
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 4.09
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.55
West_African 1.79
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.29

[Rædwald]

The K15 looks closer to my own, but the K36 shows what I would expect from a native Afrikaner.

[FilhoV]

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[JMack]

SSA admixed. It seems all of them are SSA admixed in some degree.

[Leto]

SSA admixed. It seems all of them are SSA admixed in some degree.
Some Asian too, so it seems. There have been Indians and Chinese in South Africa.

@FilhoV, post Dodecad World9 please.

[Erronkari]

Some Asian too, so it seems. There have been Indians and Chinese in South Africa.

@FilhoV, post Dodecad World9 please.

And some others Indonesian too because dutch people had presence in all that area, especially Moluccan Islands and Timor.
Former SA president Frederick de Klerk have some Indonesian ancestry, himself claimed it I think.

[Rgvgjhvv]

We have family friends who are Afrikaners born and raised. I would expect them to be almost the same to the Dutch genetically

[lonewolfcypriot]

what is interesting is that this sample has some negligible East Asian admix. strange considering this guy is from Africa

[Erronkari]

That East Asian in this case is just noise.
K13 and K15 are very good calculators but it's common in them to lave residuals between 0.5 to 2% of noise or some mistaken contributions.

[Leto]

That East Asian in this case is just noise.
K13 and K15 are very good calculators but it's common in them to lave residuals between 0.5 to 2% of noise or some mistaken contributions.
Yes, but it might as well be Indonesian.

[Cristiano viejo]

Afrikaaners score the higher SSA among the whites of world. Yet it does not affect their phenotypes, which is obvious taking account the amounts are not that big.

[FilhoV]

His result also shows you how unreliable PCA really are

[Cristiano viejo]

His result also shows you how unreliable PCA really are

What do you mean? could you post PCA of Afrikaaners?

[FilhoV]

What do you mean? could you post PCA of Afrikaaners?

Despite being 5% Black he still clusters with Dutch people

I have seen an Irish kit with 10% SSA and he still cluster in the British islands


PCA is bullshit and can be easily manipulated for agendas

[Erronkari]

Despite being 5% Black he still clusters with Dutch people

I have seen an Irish kit with 10% SSA and he still cluster in the British islands


PCA is bullshit and can be easily manipulated for agendas

It's the same case to mine (2.8/3.8% native) but I plot next to Aragón. ;)

[Erronkari]

Yes, but it might as well be Indonesian.

You are right.
It's not rare for a dutch diaspora descendant in South Africa..

[Cumansky]

Despite being 5% Black he still clusters with Dutch people

I have seen an Irish kit with 10% SSA and he still cluster in the British islands


PCA is bullshit and can be easily manipulated for agendas

+1

[FinalFlash]

Despite being 5% Black he still clusters with Dutch people

I have seen an Irish kit with 10% SSA and he still cluster in the British islands


PCA is bullshit and can be easily manipulated for agendas

Some might say that calculators are bullshit as well.

[Cumansky]

Some might say that calculators are bullshit as well.

Depends who control algorithm, if calculators BS or not

There is science to DNA genetic tho if you try dismiss science I don't know what you saying here, but is not refined at this point 100% accurate , I trust MDLP was designed by Belarusian

[FinalFlash]

Depends who control algorithm, if calculators BS or not

There is science to DNA genetic tho if you try dismiss science I don't know what you saying here, but is not refined at this point 100% accurate , I trust MDLP was designed by Belarusian

Which calculators do you think are bullshit?

[Cumansky]

Which calculators do you think are bullshit?

The one controlled by Jews.

[FinalFlash]

The one controlled by Jews.

http://i67.tinypic.com/mmbgpf.gif


Which ones are controlled by Jews?

[Cumansky]

http://i67.tinypic.com/mmbgpf.gif


Which ones are controlled by Jews?

I have better question tho, which one are not?

[FinalFlash]

I have better question tho, which one are not?

Hard to say. It seems like every calculator has a 147,683 Jew references so its possible that they all are. Even MDLP.

[Cumansky]

Hard to say. It seems like every calculator has a 147,683 Jew references so its possible that they all are. Even MDLP.

Utilize Global 25 program

[Kamal900]

Surprising that the guy has some SSA and Mongoloid genes. I expected him to be genetically the most similar to the Dutch.

[FinalFlash]

Utilize Global 25 program

I do. I have level 3 access to it. The guy in charge still hasnt updated the data sheets though and theres a limited sample size for a lot of ethnicities. David wesolowski is his name I think. Probably some jew lool

[Cumansky]

I do. I have level 3 access to it. The guy in charge still hasnt updated the data sheets though and theres a limited sample size for a lot of ethnicities. David wesolowski is his name I think. Probably some jew lool

Learn how to properly read the data, there is enough references ancient and modern.

[Cristiano viejo]

Surprising that the guy has some SSA and Mongoloid genes. I expected him to be genetically the most similar to the Dutch.

It is not only that guy. Afrikaaners score 2% SSA in 23andme, obviously higher in deeper calculators.

[FinalFlash]

Learn how to properly read the data, there is enough references ancient and modern.

I know how to read the data lol. It's still lacks a decent sample size for a lot of modern day populations.

[Kamal900]

It is not only that guy. Afrikaaners score 2% SSA in 23andme, obviously higher in deeper calculators.

Makes sense considering that they had lived with Blacks for many centuries despite the rift between them during the apartheid era of South Africa and so on.

[Cristiano viejo]

Makes sense considering that they had lived with Blacks for many centuries despite the rift between them during the apartheid era of South Africa and so on.
Americans too and they dont score that high, even if Americans did not have a real and official Apartheid.
Afrikaaners are the whites in the world with higher SSA and what is wonderful to me is that they dont show it.

[Cumansky]

I know how to read the data lol. It's still lacks a decent sample size for a lot of modern day populations.

There is many samples

[FinalFlash]

There is many samples

Many samples for certain ethnicities but a lot of ethnicities dont have many samples in the data sheet. No more than 10 and some dont even have 5.

[Cumansky]

I do. I have level 3 access to it. The guy in charge still hasnt updated the data sheets though and theres a limited sample size for a lot of ethnicities. David wesolowski is his name I think. Probably some jew lool

You can't be serious call this dude Wesolowski a Jew, that means "always happy Slav" in our language

Even if some Slavs are indeed Jews, Armenians will be Jews on steroids using HGH compared to us ;)

[Cumansky]

Many samples for certain ethnicities but a lot of ethnicities dont have many samples in the data sheet. No more than 10 and some dont even have 5.

Last time I checked British had 80, Polish had 40, etc, etc

[FinalFlash]

You can't be serious call this dude Wesolowski a Jew, that means "always happy Slav" in our language

Even if some Slavs are indeed Jews, Armenians will be Jews on steroids using HGH compared to us ;)

I wasn't comparing anyone kid. You might want to take it down a notch.

[FinalFlash]

Last time I checked British had 80, Polish had 40, etc, etc

Yes, that's a decent sample size. But I'm not only talking about Brits or Polish.

[Cumansky]

I wasn't comparing anyone kid. You might want to take it down a notch.

I would break your hooknose quick for clever lines that you tried in last 2 pages

In person your nose will be crooked right now internet goof..

[FinalFlash]

I would break your hooknose quick for clever lines that you tried in last 2 pages

In person your nose will be crooked right now internet goof..

http://i63.tinypic.com/213hfrm.jpg

[Leto]

GEDmatch results of a South African filmmaker (link (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219334535247581&set=ecnf.1036732594)). By the way, his wife is originally from Kazakhstan of partially mixed ancestry. She, her brother, and her half Afrikaner daughter are also on GEDmatch in case anyone's interested.

His Y-DNA is R-M198 (presumably from Germany)

North_Atlantic 42.41 Pct
Baltic 22.18 Pct
West_Med 16.58 Pct
West_Asian 2.67 Pct
East_Med 6.87 Pct
Red_Sea 1.24 Pct
South_Asian 1.63 Pct
East_Asian 3.3 Pct
Siberian 0.24 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.7 Pct
Northeast_African 0.9 Pct
Sub-Saharan 1.29 Pct

Distance to: FC
5.08891934 German_South_Hesse
5.30018868 French_Northeast
5.35879651 French_Normandy
5.45774679 Belgian
5.76060761 German_North_Hesse
5.80925985 Flemish
6.00259111 Dutch_South
6.07466048 French_Alsace
6.10734803 German_Saarland
6.39663193 German_North_Rhine
6.62047581 German_Baden-Württemberg
6.62942682 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
6.85153268 Swiss_German
6.85922007 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
7.46019437 German_Bavaria_Proper
7.51711381 French_Central
7.67804663 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
8.09221231 German
8.22432976 French_Brittany
8.27659350 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz

Target: FC
Distance: 1.2949% / 1.29488439 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.5 French_Normandy
23.5 German_East_Prussia_Central
21.1 Spanish_Galicia
3.9 Malay
1.0 Mbuti

Distance to: FC
4.77622236 Afrikaner
5.00903184 US_California
5.08891934 German_South_Hesse
5.30018868 French_Northeast
5.35879651 French_Normandy
5.45774679 Belgian
5.65592610 US_Louisiana
5.68776758 US_Connecticut
5.73447469 Pennsylvania_Dutch
5.76060761 German_North_Hesse
5.80925985 Flemish
6.00259111 Dutch_South
6.01252859 US_New_Jersey
6.07466048 French_Alsace
6.09903271 US_Northeast
6.10734803 German_Saarland
6.35122823 US_Michigan
6.38265619 US_Massachussets
6.39663193 German_North_Rhine
6.41336105 Canada_New_Brunswick

Target: FC
Distance: 1.0470% / 1.04698032 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.2 Afrikaner
24.2 French_South
22.9 German_East_Prussia_Central
8.6 Spanish_Galicia
3.1 Dai