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J. Ketch
01-12-2019, 05:41 AM
Give me your scaled Global 25 coordinates and I'll put you in, so long as you're Northern European or plot somewhere above Iberia, Italy or the Balkans, otherwise it would distort the PCA and not be meaningful for you anyway. Somebody else can do the full European PCA, I don't have the file.

https://i.postimg.cc/T3MWZcgT/g25-pca2.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/WtRhc2D5/g25-pca3.jpg

Grace O'Malley
01-12-2019, 06:09 AM
Thanks. I've had this done already but interested to see if I plot the same.

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Grace_scaled,0.138864,0.136081,0.064488,0.052003,0 .036314,0.017291,0.001645,0.006231,0.004909,-0.00328,-0.009094,0.004646,-0.011298,-0.009771,0.029994,0.005701,-0.007041,-0.004434,0.000377,0.007879,0.007112,0.007296,-0.005793,0.010845,-0.00047

lonewolfcypriot
01-12-2019, 06:11 AM
That's odd, I thought that Hungarians would be more eastern shifted.

J. Ketch
01-12-2019, 06:32 AM
Thanks. I've had this done already but interested to see if I plot the same.

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Grace_scaled,0.138864,0.136081,0.064488,0.052003,0 .036314,0.017291,0.001645,0.006231,0.004909,-0.00328,-0.009094,0.004646,-0.011298,-0.009771,0.029994,0.005701,-0.007041,-0.004434,0.000377,0.007879,0.007112,0.007296,-0.005793,0.010845,-0.00047
There we are:

https://i.postimg.cc/qRV1ZKwY/Grace.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/rmMSrNQ8/grace2.jpg

Hopefully it's the same as I've never done a PCA before.

Cumansky
01-12-2019, 06:40 AM
Cumansky Ukrainian/Polish, thanks

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Cumansky_scaled,0.12862,0.125926,0.06939,0.056202, 0.037545,0.019801,0.00658,0.011076,-0.000205,-0.017859,-0.004872,-0.007943,0.017988,0.017891,-0.013843,0.01127,0.02373,-0.000887,-0.001508,0.009379,-0.006364,-0.002102,0.005423,0.000361,0.000718

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Cumansky,0.0113,0.0124,0.0184,0.0174,0.0122,0.0071 ,0.0028,0.0048,-0.0001,-0.0098,-0.003,-0.0053,0.0121,0.013,-0.0102,0.0085,0.0182,-0.0007,-0.0012,0.0075,-0.0051,-0.0017,0.0044,0.0003,0.0006

J. Ketch
01-12-2019, 06:55 AM
Cumansky Ukrainian/Polish, thanks

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Cumansky_scaled,0.12862,0.125926,0.06939,0.056202, 0.037545,0.019801,0.00658,0.011076,-0.000205,-0.017859,-0.004872,-0.007943,0.017988,0.017891,-0.013843,0.01127,0.02373,-0.000887,-0.001508,0.009379,-0.006364,-0.002102,0.005423,0.000361,0.000718

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Cumansky,0.0113,0.0124,0.0184,0.0174,0.0122,0.0071 ,0.0028,0.0048,-0.0001,-0.0098,-0.003,-0.0053,0.0121,0.013,-0.0102,0.0085,0.0182,-0.0007,-0.0012,0.0075,-0.0051,-0.0017,0.0044,0.0003,0.0006
https://i.postimg.cc/YSqXckBN/cumansky.png
https://i.postimg.cc/wTpQ8Hht/cumansky2.png

Cumansky
01-12-2019, 07:00 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/YSqXckBN/cumansky.png
https://i.postimg.cc/wTpQ8Hht/cumansky2.png

Good work, very accurate

celticdragongod
01-12-2019, 07:40 AM
Give me your scaled Global 25 coordinates and I'll put you in, so long as you're Northern European or plot somewhere above Iberia, Italy or the Balkans, otherwise it would distort the PCA and not be meaningful for you anyway. Somebody else can do the full European PCA, I don't have the file.

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
CDG_scaled,0.134311,0.135065,0.063356,0.04845,0.03 7545,0.019801,0.003995,0.010153,0.007363,0.000911,-0.003735,0.006294,-0.01442,-0.009358,0.020222,-0.000133,-0.014342,0,0.007793,0.006628,-0.000374,0.000989,0.008258,0.016629,-0.001437

Thanks!

J. Ketch
01-12-2019, 08:15 AM
,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
CDG_scaled,0.134311,0.135065,0.063356,0.04845,0.03 7545,0.019801,0.003995,0.010153,0.007363,0.000911,-0.003735,0.006294,-0.01442,-0.009358,0.020222,-0.000133,-0.014342,0,0.007793,0.006628,-0.000374,0.000989,0.008258,0.016629,-0.001437

Thanks!
https://i.postimg.cc/rmgQFw5F/cdg.png
https://i.postimg.cc/QCtSBZqg/cdg2.png

I need to colour these clusters as they're confusing.

celticdragongod
01-12-2019, 09:02 AM
I need to colour these clusters as they're confusing.

Fantastic, thanks!

J. Ketch
01-12-2019, 09:13 AM
Fantastic, thanks!
Is it consistent with other PCA's for you?

celticdragongod
01-12-2019, 05:34 PM
Is it consistent with other PCA's for you?

I would say so yes.

Cumansky
01-13-2019, 05:52 PM
Maybe you consider expand to all Europeans this PCA, you did good work..

Lucas
01-13-2019, 06:29 PM
Maybe you consider expand to all Europeans this PCA, you did good work..

All in what sense?

Cumansky
01-13-2019, 06:34 PM
All in what sense?

Add Balkans, Southern Europe

Few West Eurasian admixed outliers, make it interesting

J. Ketch
01-13-2019, 10:43 PM
Maybe you consider expand to all Europeans this PCA, you did good work..
The European PCA is more messy, but I might make a thread.

firemonkey
01-14-2019, 01:06 AM
Tim_G_scaled,0.129758,0.131003,0.064865,0.047158,0 .043393,0.019243,0.002585,0.003,0.006954,-0.000547,-0.002598,0.005095,-0.010406,-0.011147,0.027823,0.006364,-0.021253,0.005828,0.001885,0.001751,0.004367,0.001 855,-0.002218,0.008555,-0.003113

Tim_G_father_scaled,0.137726,0.139128,0.060339,0.0 39406,0.044008,0.017291,0.00517,0.011538,0.007772,-0.001276,-0.002923,0.004646,-0.010109,-0.003991,0.029858,0.001724,-0.021122,0.005448,0.002514,0.007003,0.009234,0.003 833,-0.004067,0.007832,-0.001676

Tim_Mother_test_Scaled,0.12179,0.122878,0.069391,0 .05491,0.042778,0.021195,0,-0.005538,0.006136,0.000182,-0.002273,0.005544,-0.010703,-0.018303,0.025788,0.011004,-0.021384,0.006208,0.001256,-0.003501,-0.0005,-0.000123,-0.000369,0.009278,-0.00455

J. Ketch
01-14-2019, 01:39 AM
Tim_G_scaled,0.129758,0.131003,0.064865,0.047158,0 .043393,0.019243,0.002585,0.003,0.006954,-0.000547,-0.002598,0.005095,-0.010406,-0.011147,0.027823,0.006364,-0.021253,0.005828,0.001885,0.001751,0.004367,0.001 855,-0.002218,0.008555,-0.003113

Tim_G_father_scaled,0.137726,0.139128,0.060339,0.0 39406,0.044008,0.017291,0.00517,0.011538,0.007772,-0.001276,-0.002923,0.004646,-0.010109,-0.003991,0.029858,0.001724,-0.021122,0.005448,0.002514,0.007003,0.009234,0.003 833,-0.004067,0.007832,-0.001676

Tim_Mother_test_Scaled,0.12179,0.122878,0.069391,0 .05491,0.042778,0.021195,0,-0.005538,0.006136,0.000182,-0.002273,0.005544,-0.010703,-0.018303,0.025788,0.011004,-0.021384,0.006208,0.001256,-0.003501,-0.0005,-0.000123,-0.000369,0.009278,-0.00455
https://i.postimg.cc/GpZZPPQN/firemonkey.png

I doubt that's where your mother plots in reality.

J. Ketch
01-14-2019, 05:08 AM
A new colour scheme for Western Europe to make the clusters more discernable. No idea why the Austrian cluster spreads so far north, it must be a mistake.

https://i.postimg.cc/BbBFBGrz/Weuro.png

firemonkey
01-14-2019, 06:38 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/GpZZPPQN/firemonkey.png

I doubt that's where your mother plots in reality.


My mother was never tested. Her coordinates were worked out from my father's and mine by a person at anthrogenica and confirmed by a second person. That could account for my mother's weird positioning.