Ancient Roman samples coming soon!

[XenophobicPrussian]

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Good on you, taking a hit for the team by admitting the Roman Empire declined as it became more South Italian with more "Mediterranean" admixture(aka Middle-Eastern admixture) rather than their more Indo-European/Bell Beaker admixed majority , and that now there's a pretty obvious, blatant explanation why the northern Italians vastly ourperform the south.

Not sure why you're posting houses similar to what Mediterranean neolithic farmers used, though, before the Greeks/Anatolian Etruscans civilized the people of the Appenine peninsula, and ancient Levantine/Anatolian civilizations civilized the Greeks.

Historic Nordicists are stupid though, imagine trying to claim ancient Rome instead of pointing out Germanics defeated ancient Rome, conquered their core territory, won 45 of 105 battles despite non-Roman Europe(including Eastern Europe/European Russia, not just Germanic Europe) having just 7.9 million people in 1 AD, compared to Italy = 7m people, 8m including Sardinia/Sicily, another 7.8m = Spain/Greece, 25m = Roman Europe, 46.9m = total empire(Russel 1958) with nearly all battles being offensive and deep in Roman territory.

[MinervaItalica]

Good on you, taking a hit for the team by admitting the Roman Empire declined as it became more South Italian with more "Mediterranean" admixture(aka Middle-Eastern admixture)

When it declined there were Germanics in power. :rolleyes:


won 45 of 105 battles

Please list these battles. I'm curious.


Historic Nordicists are stupid though, imagine trying to claim ancient Rome instead of pointing out Germanics defeated ancient Rome

False. Ancent Rome is fallen because multiple reasons. Barbarian migrations is just one.

[XenophobicPrussian]

When it declined there were Germanics in power. :rolleyes:



Please list these battles. I'm curious.



False. Ancent Rome is fallen because multiple reasons. Barbarian migrations is just one.
Germanics only had a significant role in running the Empire after 455, the Empire was pretty much ruined by Germanic tribes way before then. Even then, it was still basically run by native Romans other than when Ricimer was in power. There's also the half Vandal general who pretty much dictated things but that was for a short period of time around 400 AD, and the guy got that powerful for a reason over native Romans for a reason, he was a successful general with great military victories.

Google List of the Germanic Wars, it's on Wikipedia. 105 battles listed, Germanics won 45 of them(it includes battles against the Eastern Romans too)

Well, you can keep telling yourself that. It's one thing if barbarian invasions(you can call it migrations all you want, there were both peaceful migrations and forced invasions, most migrations eventually turning into violent military conflicts anyway, but permission was obviously not given out of the kindness of Rome's heart, permission was given out of fear) caused the Empire to split, lose some of its far flung territories in Asia, Britain, but you guys literally lost your core land of the Appenine peninsula, southern Gaulia and Iberia, on one front and had your capital sacked multiple times.

[MinervaItalica]

Well, you can keep telling yourself that. It's one thing if barbarian invasions(you can call it migrations all you want, there were both peaceful migrations and forced invasions, most migrations eventually turning into violent military conflicts anyway, but permission was obviously not given out of the kindness of Rome's heart, permission was given out of fear) caused the Empire to split, lose some of its far flung territories in Asia, Britain, but you guys literally lost your core land of the Appenine peninsula, southern Gaulia and Iberia, on one front and had your capital sacked multiple times.

Germanics immigrated because they wanted to live in a better place like the Roman Empire not because they wanted to conquer it (but this accidentaly also cause conflicts like you also stated) and this mass immigration caused the collapse. Something similar is happening nowadays within the European Union. :rolleyes: It seems history repeats itself.

Rome was sacked multiple times because its importance as strategic/cultural city during history. Who cared anyway to sack, for example, Berlin? lol

Paris was also sacked multiple times as well.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Who cared anyway to sack, for example, Berlin? lol

Soviets did.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J6Sm0SQ91Fg/VjGvFCulWMI/AAAAAAAAKCE/DoHkRJwUPNA/s1600/The%2BSoviet%2Bflag%2Bover%2Bthe%2BReichstag%252C% 2B1945%2B%25281%2529.jpg

[Licantropo]

Germanics immigrated because they wanted to live in a better place like the Roman Empire not because they wanted to conquer it and this mass imigration cause the collapse. Something similar is happening nowadays within the European Union. :rolleyes: It seems history repeats itself.

Rome was sacked multiple times because its importance as strategic/cultural city. Who cared anyway to sack, for example, Berlin? lol

The best part is that when Germans came they needed "Italian Romans" to teach them how to administrate territories , rule a country and all the stuff about bureaucracy..talking about who could run an empire and who was not cut for it eh??

Comunque anche questo sopra e' un altro sock del solito..dicono tutti le solite cazzate che siamo stati conquistati , che abbiamo perso le battaglie e blah, blah ..lui crede che siamo tutti dei cerebrolesi come quelli che scrivono qua sopra.

[XenophobicPrussian]

Germanics immigrated because they wanted to live in a better place like the Roman Empire not because they wanted to conquer it and this mass imigration cause the collapse. Something similar is happening nowadays within the European Union. :rolleyes: It seems history repeats itself.

Rome was sacked multiple times because its importance as strategic/cultural city. Who cared anyway to sack, for example, Berlin? lol
Yeah, you've lost this argument. No one's talking about why it was sacked, the point is it was sacked, by force, by Germanics, and the "superiour" Romans couldn't stop it. Whether they wanted to conquer Rome is irrelevant, they wanted better lives, and they achieved this by force, which is an impressive feat considering how small in numbers they were in comparison.

If you think Rome let in Germanic immigrants because they were SJWs and not because the threat of military conflict, loss of territory and raids based on previous and ongoing experience against other tribes, you're delusional.

[Licantropo]

^
Ehy Minerva...Prime example of what i was saying right here...:picard1:

[Leto]

Soviets did.

I'm against communism but just a quick reminder: only the Eastern bloc European countries have remained racially homogenous, including former East Germany (at least until Ang-Allah Merkel let it be flooded in 2015). France, England, Holland, Belgium, West Germany, now even Spain and Italy... you know the story.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I'm against communism but just a quick reminder: only the Eastern bloc European countries have remained racially homogenous, including former East Germany (at least until Ang-Allah Merkel let it be flooded in 2015). France, England, Holland, Belgium, West Germany, now even Spain and Italy... you know the story.

Yes, fair point bro. I'm not fan of Soviets but of Russia yeah.

[Voskos]

How much is R1b U106 and I1 in Italy? Just because Lega Nord think they're germans, doesn't mean I personally believe these fables.

[Licantropo]

How much is R1b U106 and I1 in Italy? Just because Lega Nord think they're germans, doesn't mean I personally believe these fables.

LOL
Lega North\Padanians never thought they were Germans, that's a myth. In Italy there is a predominance of R1b of Italic stock.

[MinervaItalica]

Whether they wanted to conquer Rome is irrelevant, they wanted better lives, and they achieved this by force.

Dude, you're confirming what i said. The use of force wasn't intentional at first.


Just because Lega Nord think they're germans.

I don't think Lega Nord (now only Lega) ever believed that North Italians were "Germans". lol

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

How much is R1b U106 and I1 in Italy? Just because Lega Nord think they're germans, doesn't mean I personally believe these fables.

North Italy has 10-20% Germanic ydna on average. Extreme alpine areas close to northern borders borders 30-40%.
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/2a455fce-cd74-4375-9833-ba3072ef7b67/d8fztsi-2a9c8929-34f3-4751-946b-fd64d2a7d5b3.png/v1/fill/w_1150,h_695,q_70,strp/germanic_y_dna_combined_haplogroups_by_arminius187 1_d8fztsi-pre.jpg

South Tyrol Germanic ydna is 40-50%. But they are ethnic Germans.

[Peterski]

Coming "soon" indeed:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5qudtunVds

[Roy]

Lol. Africans don't consider them black, maybe some Afrocentrists do but they are a fringe group. Black means African both in Europe and in America.

They - Negritos, Papuans etc. are also much further detached genetically than Europeans are to them.

[Joso]

North Italy has 10-20% Germanic ydna on average. Extreme alpine areas close to northern borders borders 30-40%.
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/2a455fce-cd74-4375-9833-ba3072ef7b67/d8fztsi-2a9c8929-34f3-4751-946b-fd64d2a7d5b3.png/v1/fill/w_1150,h_695,q_70,strp/germanic_y_dna_combined_haplogroups_by_arminius187 1_d8fztsi-pre.jpg

South Tyrol Germanic ydna is 40-50%. But they are ethnic Germans.

Very nice, i will use it a lot in the future

[Etelfrido]

Have there been other papers?

And LOL at people who claim Ancient Romans couldn't have been Southern shifted because some of them were described as blond when people have showed here that Southern and Northern Euros have different standards for blondness.