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Kaspias
02-25-2019, 12:44 PM
Hello!

He is from a village on the Rhodope Mountains that belongs to Drama probably with roots from Western Thrace Rhodopes.

y-DNA: E-CTS5856
mt-DNA: W3

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 22.92
2 East_Med 21.63
3 North_Atlantic 17.96
4 West_Med 16.03
5 West_Asian 14.84
6 Red_Sea 3.02
7 South_Asian 1.8
8 Siberian 1.02
9 Oceanian 0.59
10 Amerindian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.19
2 Romanian 7.41
3 Greek_Thessaly 8.44
4 Serbian 11.35
5 Central_Greek 14.06
6 Italian_Abruzzo 14.8
7 Moldavian 15.31
8 East_Sicilian 15.49
9 Tuscan 16.76
10 West_Sicilian 16.85
11 Ashkenazi 16.94
12 South_Italian 18.64
13 Croatian 18.7
14 North_Italian 19.12
15 Hungarian 19.14
16 Austrian 22.26
17 Sephardic_Jewish 23.91
18 Algerian_Jewish 23.99
19 East_German 24.1
20 Italian_Jewish 24.14

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.5% Moldavian + 35.5% Cyprian @ 1.87
2 87.4% Bulgarian + 12.6% Iranian @ 2
3 87.7% Bulgarian + 12.3% Kurdish @ 2.32
4 86% Bulgarian + 14% Azeri @ 2.36
5 87.8% Bulgarian + 12.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.48
6 53% Ukrainian_Lviv + 47% Cyprian @ 2.53
7 59.8% Croatian + 40.2% Cyprian @ 2.54
8 69.8% Central_Greek + 30.2% Erzya @ 2.55
9 51.9% South_Polish + 48.1% Cyprian @ 2.58
10 88.4% Bulgarian + 11.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.65
11 65.9% Moldavian + 34.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.65
12 51.7% Ukrainian + 48.3% Cyprian @ 2.65
13 88% Bulgarian + 12% Assyrian @ 2.68
14 69.6% Moldavian + 30.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.69
15 67% Central_Greek + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.72
16 84.9% Bulgarian + 15.1% Turkish @ 2.74
17 88.7% Bulgarian + 11.3% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.77
18 88.5% Bulgarian + 11.5% Armenian @ 2.82
19 68.9% Moldavian + 31.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.96
20 86.9% Bulgarian + 13.1% Kumyk @ 3.01



Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 19.82
2 Baltic 16.13
3 West_Asian 13.42
4 North_Sea 13.22
5 West_Med 11.5
6 Atlantic 11.1
7 Eastern_Euro 9.26
8 Red_Sea 3.11
9 South_Asian 1.59
10 Oceanian 0.46
11 Siberian 0.37
12 Amerindian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.85
2 Romanian 7.17
3 Greek_Thessaly 8.07
4 Greek 9.2
5 Serbian 11.03
6 Ashkenazi 12.49
7 Central_Greek 13.01
8 Italian_Abruzzo 13.63
9 Moldavian 14.08
10 East_Sicilian 14.19
11 Tuscan 15.19
12 West_Sicilian 15.91
13 South_Italian 16.65
14 Croatian 16.66
15 Hungarian 17.3
16 Austrian 17.94
17 North_Italian 18.34
18 Italian_Jewish 20.55
19 Sephardic_Jewish 21.05
20 Ukrainian_Lviv 21.61

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 46.1% Cyprian @ 2.37
2 64.4% Moldavian + 35.6% Cyprian @ 2.52
3 52.8% South_Polish + 47.2% Cyprian @ 2.68
4 52.6% Ukrainian + 47.4% Cyprian @ 2.71
5 69.8% Moldavian + 30.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.79
6 65.7% Moldavian + 34.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.9
7 69.9% Moldavian + 30.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.96
8 66.2% Croatian + 33.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.09
9 70.1% Moldavian + 29.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.3
10 60.5% Croatian + 39.5% Cyprian @ 3.33
11 83.1% Romanian + 16.9% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.33
12 66.1% Croatian + 33.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.35
13 65.7% Central_Greek + 34.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.35
14 64.4% Croatian + 35.6% Assyrian @ 3.43
15 69.5% Moldavian + 30.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.43
16 61.8% Croatian + 38.2% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.44
17 69.3% Moldavian + 30.7% Samaritan @ 3.45
18 83.7% Romanian + 16.3% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.48
19 65.7% Croatian + 34.3% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.51
20 66.4% Central_Greek + 33.6% Southwest_Russian @ 3.51


PuntDNAL K15


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 37.4
2 Mediterranean 30.59
3 Caucasian 21.25
4 SW_Asian 6.98
5 S_Indian 0.87
6 Oceanian 0.78
7 Wht_Nile_River 0.67
8 Siberian 0.6
9 E_Asian 0.49
10 Amerindian 0.2
11 Horn_Of_Africa 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Macedonian 6.45
2 Bulgarian 6.52
3 Bosnian 6.93
4 Romanian 6.96
5 Montenegrin 7.13
6 Greek_Thessaly 7.32
7 Greek_Central 8.98
8 Italian 9.37
9 Albanian 9.97
10 Tuscan 11.13
11 Serbian 11.48
12 French 16.15
13 Croatian 16.4
14 Spaniard 17.5
15 Brazilian 17.58
16 South_German 17.68
17 Portuguese 17.77
18 Ashkenazy_Jew 18.09
19 Utahn_White 18.38
20 Hungarian 18.51

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.2% Bosnian + 14.8% Turk_Trabzon @ 1.37
2 76.6% Serbian + 23.4% Druze @ 1.5
3 84.4% Bosnian + 15.6% Assyrian @ 1.51
4 84.6% Bosnian + 15.4% Armenian @ 1.68
5 63.2% Orcadian + 36.8% Assyrian @ 1.78
6 83.1% Bosnian + 16.9% Cypriot @ 1.8
7 76.4% Serbian + 23.6% Assyrian @ 1.81
8 81.8% Bosnian + 18.2% Turk_Kayseri @ 1.85
9 85.8% Macedonian + 14.2% Iranian @ 1.88
10 61.7% Scottish + 38.3% Assyrian @ 1.94
11 84.9% Bosnian + 15.1% Druze @ 1.95
12 60.2% Norwegian + 39.8% Assyrian @ 1.96
13 63.5% English + 36.5% Assyrian @ 1.96
14 56.9% Bosnian + 43.1% Greek_Central @ 2.01
15 78.9% Greek_Central + 21.1% Mordovian @ 2.12
16 85.6% Macedonian + 14.4% Azerbaijani @ 2.12
17 66.9% Croatian + 33.1% Cypriot @ 2.13
18 79.1% Greek_Central + 20.9% Russian @ 2.15
19 79.5% Greek_Central + 20.5% Karelian @ 2.18
20 84.9% Macedonian + 15.1% Kurdish @ 2.23


MDLP K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.42
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 23.47
3 European_Early_Farmers 16.92
4 South_Central_Asian 7.64
5 Near_East 7.57
6 Ancestral_Altaic 2.75
7 North_African 2.65
8 Tungus-Altaic 1.12
9 South_Indian 0.98
10 Australoid 0.92
11 Arctic 0.59
12 Melano_Polynesian 0.59
13 Archaic_Human 0.24
14 Amerindian 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian ( ) 5.69
2 Macedonian ( ) 6.18
3 Montenegrian ( ) 6.4
4 Serb_BH ( ) 7.38
5 Bosnian ( ) 7.44
6 Croat ( ) 7.65
7 Croat_BH ( ) 7.78
8 Serb_Serbia ( ) 7.87
9 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 8.06
10 Romanian ( ) 8.64
11 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 9.02
12 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 9.07
13 Sicilian_West ( ) 9.48
14 Greek_Northwest ( ) 9.63
15 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 9.83
16 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 10.46
17 Gagauz ( ) 10.58
18 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 11.17
19 Turk_Aydin ( ) 11.29
20 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 11.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.2% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 24.8% Iraqi_Mandean ( ) @ 1.78
2 68.2% Austrian ( ) + 31.8% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) @ 1.89
3 67.5% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 32.5% Turk_Adana ( ) @ 1.96
4 73.2% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 26.8% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 2
5 76.7% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 23.3% Kurd_Jew ( ) @ 2.13
6 78.6% Montenegrian ( ) + 21.4% Kurd_South ( ) @ 2.16
7 64.1% Austrian ( ) + 35.9% Jew_Tat ( ) @ 2.19
8 68.8% Austrian ( ) + 31.2% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) @ 2.2
9 77.3% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 22.7% Iranian_Jew ( ) @ 2.32
10 81.7% Macedonian ( ) + 18.3% Iranian ( ) @ 2.32
11 79.8% Montenegrian ( ) + 20.2% Kurd_East ( ) @ 2.34
12 76.4% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 23.6% Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) @ 2.4
13 78.7% Bulgarian ( ) + 21.3% Iraki ( ) @ 2.42
14 56.5% Dutch ( ) + 43.5% Druze ( ) @ 2.42
15 68.4% Austrian ( ) + 31.6% Armenian ( ) @ 2.42
16 83.3% Bulgarian ( ) + 16.7% Iranian ( ) @ 2.48
17 63.3% Hungarian ( ) + 36.7% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 2.49
18 64.1% Slovenian ( ) + 35.9% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 2.51
19 54.1% Austrian ( ) + 45.9% Turk_Kayseri ( ) @ 2.51
20 81% Montenegrian ( ) + 19% Kurd ( ) @ 2.55



MDLP K16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.59
2 Neolithic 22.64
3 Steppe 17.37
4 NorthEastEuropean 15.55
5 NearEast 3.98
6 Indian 3.06
7 Oceanic 0.5
8 Australian 0.43
9 NorthAfrican 0.39
10 Arctic 0.36
11 EastAfrican 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Gagauz (Gagauzia) 5.29
2 Greek (Macedonia) 5.84
3 Greek (Greece) 6.04
4 Greek (Peloponnes) 6.13
5 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 6.35
6 Romanian (Romania) 6.52
7 Greek (Thessaloniki) 6.7
8 Albanian (Albania) 6.83
9 Kosovar (Kosovo) 6.98
10 Macedonian (Macedonia) 7.2
11 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 7.33
12 Romanian (Gorj) 8.01
13 Italian (Abruzzo) 8.17
14 Montenegrian (Montenegro) 9.2
15 Romanian (Apuseni) 9.31
16 Greek (Athens) 9.5
17 Italian (SouthItaly) 10.09
18 Serbian (Serbia) 10.13
19 Italian (NorthIitaly) 10.15
20 Moldavian (Molodva) 10.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.3% French (WestFrance) + 40.7% Armenian (Armenia) @ 1.56
2 56.3% English (Kent) + 43.7% Armenian (Armenia) @ 1.66
3 61.9% German (Germany) + 38.1% Armenian (Armenia) @ 1.7
4 59.9% Scottish (Dumfries_Galloway) + 40.1% Armenian (Armenia) @ 1.81
5 58.4% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 41.6% Armenian (Armenia) @ 1.82
6 57.4% English (Kent) + 42.6% Jew (Georgia) @ 1.84
7 59.8% English (England) + 40.2% Armenian (Armenia) @ 1.88
8 58.4% Irish (Connacht) + 41.6% Armenian (Armenia) @ 1.9
9 59.1% Scottish (Borders) + 40.9% Armenian (Armenia) @ 1.99
10 62.3% French (EastFrance) + 37.7% Georgian (Georgia) @ 2.02
11 55.6% Dutch (Netherlands) + 44.4% Armenian (Lebanon) @ 2.04
12 61.4% Welsh (Wales) + 38.6% Armenian (Armenia) @ 2.07
13 54.7% English (Kent) + 45.3% Georgian (Laz) @ 2.15
14 59.1% German (Germany) + 40.9% Adjar (Adjaria) @ 2.16
15 60.1% French (WestFrance) + 39.9% Jew (Georgia) @ 2.17
16 60.4% German (Germany) + 39.6% Georgian (Georgia) @ 2.18
17 75% Montenegrian (Montenegro) + 25% Georgian (Kakheti) @ 2.21
18 79.7% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 20.3% Georgian (Kakheti) @ 2.21
19 60.9% French (EastFrance) + 39.1% Adjar (Adjaria) @ 2.22
20 61.8% Welsh (Wales) + 38.2% Armenian (Armenia) @ 2.29

Kaspias
02-25-2019, 04:09 PM
bump

xripkan
02-25-2019, 04:12 PM
dodecad k12b?

Kaspias
02-25-2019, 04:17 PM
dodecad k12b?

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 30.36
2 Caucasus 27.58
3 Atlantic_Med 23.13
4 Gedrosia 8.86
5 Southwest_Asian 7.47
6 East_Asian 0.88
7 South_Asian 0.79
8 Siberian 0.51
9 Northwest_African 0.41

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.01
2 Romanians (Behar) 7.82
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.78
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 12.86
5 Greek (Dodecad) 14.71
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 17.4
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.02
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 18.18
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.76
10 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.56
11 Hungarians (Behar) 20.64
12 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.72
13 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.93
14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 21.01
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.83
16 German (Dodecad) 25.18
17 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 26.41
18 French (Dodecad) 27.1
19 French (HGDP) 27.21
20 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 27.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 11.1% Brahui (HGDP) @ 1.63
2 87.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 12.3% Makrani (HGDP) @ 1.68
3 88.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 11.9% Balochi (HGDP) @ 1.78
4 91.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 8.8% Brahui (HGDP) @ 2.02
5 90.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 9.8% Makrani (HGDP) @ 2.05
6 90.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 9.5% Balochi (HGDP) @ 2.14
7 52.3% German (Dodecad) + 47.7% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.48
8 60.6% German (Dodecad) + 39.4% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 2.73
9 60.4% German (Dodecad) + 39.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.79
10 60.8% German (Dodecad) + 39.2% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 2.95
11 65.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 34.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.95
12 65.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 34.2% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.99
13 83.6% Romanians (Behar) + 16.4% Iranians (Behar) @ 3.03
14 53.8% German (Dodecad) + 46.2% Turks (Behar) @ 3.06
15 89.6% Romanians (Behar) + 10.4% Makrani (HGDP) @ 3.1
16 61.1% German (Dodecad) + 38.9% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.23
17 56.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.28
18 61.2% German (Dodecad) + 38.8% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 3.29
19 90% Romanians (Behar) + 10% Balochi (HGDP) @ 3.32
20 90.8% Romanians (Behar) + 9.2% Brahui (HGDP) @ 3.39

xripkan
02-25-2019, 04:31 PM
He seems just Balkan. Even his haplogroup is native Balkan. Maybe some traces of Anatolian ancestry.

Kaspias
02-25-2019, 04:36 PM
He seems just Balkan. Even his haplogroup is native Balkan. Maybe some traces of Anatolian ancestry.

I would expect such a result from Greece Pomaks. They are a bit eastern shifted just like Thracian Bulgarians. Probably my mother would get very similar result.

dosas
02-25-2019, 06:07 PM
Drama has Pomaks?

Kaspias
02-25-2019, 06:08 PM
Drama has Pomaks?

All of them migrated to Turkey with population exchange.

Bosniensis
02-25-2019, 06:10 PM
Pomaks! True Thracian Mirmidons!

Achilles lives in you!

Kaspias
02-25-2019, 06:16 PM
Pomaks! True Thracian Mirmidons!

Achilles lives in you!

There are 4 different Proto-Bulgar grave in different Pomak villages. 2 Of them have H2a2a1 mtDNA which is same with me. Of course they have Thracian blood but their origin is Proto-Bulgars with our current knowledge. We need more research though.

Voskos
02-25-2019, 06:17 PM
Is hte south asian proto-bulgar stuff?

Bosniensis
02-25-2019, 06:18 PM
There are 4 different Proto-Bulgar grave in different Pomak villages. 2 Of them have H2a2a1 mtDNA which is same with me. Of course they have Thracian blood but their origin is Proto-Bulgars with our current knowledge. We need more research though.

Do you have a list of proto-bulgarian mtdna?

Kaspias
02-25-2019, 06:25 PM
Is hte south asian proto-bulgar stuff?

Can be found in South Asians, East and Central Europeans.


Do you have a list of proto-bulgarian mtdna?

Article --> https://digitalcommons.wayne.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1069&context=humbiol_preprints

Eurogenes --> http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2015/06/mitochondrial-dna-from-medieval-bulgaria.html

Dorian
02-25-2019, 06:32 PM
Agrianian soldier of Alexander!

dosas
02-25-2019, 06:34 PM
All of them migrated to Turkey with population exchange.

I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.:thumb001: