Turkish Global25 nMonte Modelling

[Karkurdu]

Here is few different modelling combinations of Turkish_Balikesir. I picked a Western Turkish province on purpose. Results show that Turks can be modelled as around half Central Asian and half Anatolian/native.

1:

%20 Greek
%31.67 Greek_Crete
%46.67 Turkmen (Uzbekistan)
%1.67 Turk_Medieval (Göktürk)

https://scontent.fbtz1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44108573_183388735878820_1636032220768501760_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent.fbtz1-3.fna&oh=c04178d09eab188e6b567d8b7f09c9ae&oe=5CE5F5A2

2:

%20.83 Greek
%30.83 Greek_Crete
%44.17 Turkmen (Uzbekistan)
%4.17 Hun_Tian_Shan

https://scontent.fbtz1-10.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44102224_183388995878794_3456264645285773312_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent.fbtz1-10.fna&oh=a466cb0e31cc67c56d5b516c3b8d9d57&oe=5D1BD4E5

3:

%60 Greek_Crete
%0.83 Greek
%19.17 Kipchak
%20 Turk_Medieval

https://scontent.fbtz1-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44037210_183389582545402_592261919805538304_o.jpg? _nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent.fbtz1-4.fna&oh=acfd15551f9a9741ef80c29121fe19c6&oe=5CE409F4

[Karkurdu]

Here is an ADMIXTURE chart comparing Turks, Greeks, Armenians, Central Asian Turkic peoples and Mediveal Turkic peoples:

https://scontent.fbtz1-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45543870_720280008329509_8256926664936652800_o.png ?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent.fbtz1-4.fna&oh=15c796c025f2d374e7a9c5952c9ad5cd&oe=5D245BD3

[Karkurdu]

East and West Eurasian distribution of autosomal components among Turkic Peoples:

https://abload.de/img/111zwi6k.png?fbclid=IwAR3rPaI-anfY1vjfLOAoagQ0bWasnRrP9YtcN9aawINVs2TyLGP5RW68zi Q

[lonewolfcypriot]

how do you do this I want to find out

[Karkurdu]

how do you do this I want to find out

You can do the modelling from here:

http://185.144.156.77:3000/

[lonewolfcypriot]

You can do the modelling from here:

http://185.144.156.77:3000/

bilmiyorum nasil kulanacam. yardim edersin lutfen?

[Crimson Winds]

Göktürks were aliens Lol.

[Karkurdu]

bilmiyorum nasil kulanacam. yardim edersin lutfen?

"Select from Reference Groups (Averaged) "

Burdan modellemek istediğin popülasyonları seç

Select from Test Groups - Group Average will be used

Buradan da modellenecek popülasyonu seç. Öreğin Turkish_Aydın'ı mı modellenmek istiyorsun veya başka bir popülasyonu mu, onu dikkate alacaksın burada.

Yukarıda da hangi popülasyonlarla modellemek istiyorsan 4 tane onu seçiyorsun.

[Proto-Shaman]

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[Kaspias]

With G25 averages


Western Anatolia:

Turkish_Istanbul: 0.7873

Balkanic-Aegean 53.33
Turkic 27.5
Caucasian 19.17

Turkish_Aydin: 1.4531

Balkanic-Aegean 42.35
Turkic 39.17
Caucasian 18.33


Turkish_Balikesir: 1.2226

Balkanic-Aegean 42.5
Turkic 42.5
Caucasian 15


Central Anatolia:


Turkish_Kayseri: 2.0281

Balkanic-Aegean 40
Caucasian 33.33
Turkic 26.67


South Anatolia:


Turkish_Adana:2.0433

Balkanic-Aegean 39.17
Turkic 31.67
Caucasian 29.17


North Anatolia:

Turkish_Trabzon 3.0954

Caucasian 66.67
Balkanic-Aegean 33.33


Ottomans:



Anatolia_Ottoman: 1.7641

Turkic 85.83
Balkanic-Aegean 9.17
Caucasian 2.5
Eastern Balkans 2.5


Greeks:


Greek_Central_Anatolia: 3.7606

Balkanic-Aegean 58.33
Caucasian 41.67


Greek_Trabzon: 2.7124

Caucasian 71.67
Balkanic-Aegean 28.33


Greek_Crete: 2.6698

Balkanic-Aegean 82.5
Caucasian 17.5


Greek_Mainland-Average: 0.1314

Balkanic-Aegean 87.5
Eastern Balkans 9.17
Caucasian 3.33

[Bosniensis]

East and West Eurasian distribution of autosomal components among Turkic Peoples:

https://abload.de/img/111zwi6k.png?fbclid=IwAR3rPaI-anfY1vjfLOAoagQ0bWasnRrP9YtcN9aawINVs2TyLGP5RW68zi Q

Well isn't it obvious to anyone who can read that Turks aren't Turkic people but Anatolian people!

Check Kazakhs and Uyghurs... those are TRUE Turkic people who invaded Anatolia.

[Proto-Shaman]

Well isn't it obvious to anyone who can read that Turks aren't Turkic people but Anatolian people!

Check Kazakhs and Uyghurs... those are TRUE Turkic people who invaded Anatolia.
No. There is no connection to them. They are Kipchak and Karluk speaking groups who admixed with East Asians during the last 1000 years. So, wrong propaganda choice, own goal.

NEXT

[Bosniensis]

No. There is no connection to them. They are Kipchak and Karluk speaking groups who admixed with East Asians during the last 1000 years. So, wrong propaganda choice, own goal.

NEXT

You are Turk who want to make everyone else Turk.

Don't forget that we lived with Anatolians/Ottomans hundreds of years and that we can differ Turk from Anatolian.

You behave like we fell from the sky knowing nothing waiting for you to enlighten us.

[Rgvgjhvv]

Doesn't this show they're half Greek half 'Central Asian'?

[Crimson Winds]

Doesn't this show they're half Greek half 'Central Asian'?

Yeah. Proclamation of the obvious.

[Karkurdu]

Well isn't it obvious to anyone who can read that Turks aren't Turkic people but Anatolian people!

Check Kazakhs and Uyghurs... those are TRUE Turkic people who invaded Anatolia.

LeL you Balkanshit. Get the fuck out of my thread.

[Rgvgjhvv]

Yeah. Proclamation of the obvious.

He said Anatolian in the OP, that's why I asked

[Gangrel]

Well isn't it obvious to anyone who can read that Turks aren't Turkic people but Anatolian people!

Check Kazakhs and Uyghurs... those are TRUE Turkic people who invaded Anatolia.

Wtf Kazakhs and Uyghurs have to do with Seljuks and Ottomans? Shouldn't you be out pimping your sisters Balkanshit?

[Crimson Winds]

He said Anatolian in the OP, that's why I asked

Greek speaking Anatolians that means. Anatolian Greeks aren't much closer to mainland as I know.

[Rgvgjhvv]

Greek speaking Anatolians that means. Anatolian Greeks aren't much closer to mainland as I know.

Anatolian Greeks are Greeks though. They are Greeks who lived in Anatolia, not ones who mixed with native Anatolians. Unless all Greek Islnders all have native Anatolian admixture. The only Greeks who are documented to have native Anatolian admixture once upon a time are the Pontic Greeks of the Caucuses region, and the Cappadocian Greeks of Central Anatolia

[Kamal900]

Wtf Kazakhs and Uyghurs have to do with Seljuks and Ottomans? Shouldn't you be out pimping your sisters Balkanshit?

You should tell him that they're not of Oghuz Turkic stock.

[Proto-Shaman]

You are Turk who want to make everyone else Turk.
And yu ar idyot who want make every Turk to non-Turk.


Don't forget that we lived with Anatolians/Ottomans hundreds of years and that we can differ Turk from Anatolian.
Not really that much:
https://i.imgur.com/MUnqRb7.png

What u need to understand this chart is:


# 1. BRAIN
# 2. EYES
# 3. LITERACY
# 4. 2nd BRAIN


You behave like we fell from the sky knowing nothing waiting for you to enlighten us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNUsOaB5V2c

[Crimson Winds]

Anatolian Greeks are Greeks though. They are Greeks who lived in Anatolia, not ones who mixed with native Anatolians. Unless all Greek Islnders all have native Anatolian admixture. The only Greeks who are documented to have native Anatolian admixture once upon a time are the Pontic Greeks of the Caucuses region, and the Cappadocian Greeks of Central Anatolia

That doesn't seem Greek to me. (Sample is from Central Anatolia.)

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 48.6
2 European_Early_Farmers 16.45
3 South_Central_Asian 15.63
4 Near_East 11.88
5 North_African 3.5
6 European_Hunters_Gatherers 2.14
7 East_Siberian 0.88
8 Archaic_Human 0.28
9 Tungus-Altaic 0.27
10 Ancestral_Altaic 0.21
11 Melano_Polynesian 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Cypriot ( ) 10.64
2 Azov_Greek ( ) 10.67
3 Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) 11.1
4 Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) 11.15
5 Armenian ( ) 11.28
6 Jew_Tat ( ) 11.87
7 Turk_Kayseri ( ) 11.88
8 Lebanese_Druze ( ) 12.06
9 Georgian_Jew ( ) 12.59
10 Assyrian_Arzni ( ) 12.69
11 Greek_Smyrna ( ) 12.97
12 Armenian_Yerevan ( ) 13.01
13 Iraqi_Jew ( ) 13.01
14 Greek_Islands ( ) 13.26
15 Turk ( ) 13.57
16 Lebanese_Christian ( ) 14.03
17 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 14.14
18 Druze ( ) 14.32
19 Christian_Arabs_Israel ( ) 14.47
20 Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) 15.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.4% Armenian ( ) + 12.6% Sardinian ( ) @ 2.29
2 85.8% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) + 14.2% Sardinian ( ) @ 3.08
3 53.7% Armenian ( ) + 46.3% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 3.17
4 73.1% Armenian ( ) + 26.9% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) @ 3.58
5 63.9% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 36.1% Kakheti ( ) @ 3.66
6 75.9% Armenian ( ) + 24.1% Italian_Tuscan ( ) @ 3.75
7 77.4% Armenian ( ) + 22.6% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 3.8
8 54.5% Armenian ( ) + 45.5% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 3.89
9 50.1% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 49.9% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) @ 3.92
10 80.5% Armenian ( ) + 19.5% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 3.93
11 86.4% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) + 13.6% Sardinian ( ) @ 4.05
12 67% Armenian ( ) + 33% Sicilian_East ( ) @ 4.09
13 69.9% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 30.1% Georgian ( ) @ 4.12
14 90.3% Armenian ( ) + 9.7% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 4.2
15 90.5% Armenian ( ) + 9.5% Basque_French ( ) @ 4.27
16 69.4% Armenian ( ) + 30.6% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) @ 4.28
17 65.7% Armenian ( ) + 34.3% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 4.31
18 68.6% Armenian ( ) + 31.4% French_Jew ( ) @ 4.32
19 83.5% Armenian ( ) + 16.5% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) @ 4.32
20 86.3% Armenian ( ) + 13.7% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) @ 4.33

[Rgvgjhvv]

That doesn't seem Greek to me. (Sample is from Central Anatolia.)

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 48.6
2 European_Early_Farmers 16.45
3 South_Central_Asian 15.63
4 Near_East 11.88
5 North_African 3.5
6 European_Hunters_Gatherers 2.14
7 East_Siberian 0.88
8 Archaic_Human 0.28
9 Tungus-Altaic 0.27
10 Ancestral_Altaic 0.21
11 Melano_Polynesian 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Cypriot ( ) 10.64
2 Azov_Greek ( ) 10.67
3 Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) 11.1
4 Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) 11.15
5 Armenian ( ) 11.28
6 Jew_Tat ( ) 11.87
7 Turk_Kayseri ( ) 11.88
8 Lebanese_Druze ( ) 12.06
9 Georgian_Jew ( ) 12.59
10 Assyrian_Arzni ( ) 12.69
11 Greek_Smyrna ( ) 12.97
12 Armenian_Yerevan ( ) 13.01
13 Iraqi_Jew ( ) 13.01
14 Greek_Islands ( ) 13.26
15 Turk ( ) 13.57
16 Lebanese_Christian ( ) 14.03
17 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 14.14
18 Druze ( ) 14.32
19 Christian_Arabs_Israel ( ) 14.47
20 Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) 15.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.4% Armenian ( ) + 12.6% Sardinian ( ) @ 2.29
2 85.8% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) + 14.2% Sardinian ( ) @ 3.08
3 53.7% Armenian ( ) + 46.3% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 3.17
4 73.1% Armenian ( ) + 26.9% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) @ 3.58
5 63.9% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 36.1% Kakheti ( ) @ 3.66
6 75.9% Armenian ( ) + 24.1% Italian_Tuscan ( ) @ 3.75
7 77.4% Armenian ( ) + 22.6% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 3.8
8 54.5% Armenian ( ) + 45.5% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 3.89
9 50.1% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 49.9% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) @ 3.92
10 80.5% Armenian ( ) + 19.5% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 3.93
11 86.4% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) + 13.6% Sardinian ( ) @ 4.05
12 67% Armenian ( ) + 33% Sicilian_East ( ) @ 4.09
13 69.9% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 30.1% Georgian ( ) @ 4.12
14 90.3% Armenian ( ) + 9.7% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 4.2
15 90.5% Armenian ( ) + 9.5% Basque_French ( ) @ 4.27
16 69.4% Armenian ( ) + 30.6% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) @ 4.28
17 65.7% Armenian ( ) + 34.3% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 4.31
18 68.6% Armenian ( ) + 31.4% French_Jew ( ) @ 4.32
19 83.5% Armenian ( ) + 16.5% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) @ 4.32
20 86.3% Armenian ( ) + 13.7% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) @ 4.33

I don't understand what you're showing me? Why is this relevant to our conversation? Lol

[Ryuk]

Turkish_Kayseri: 2.0281

Balkanic-Aegean 40
Caucasian 33.33
Turkic 26.67


Is that too much balkan/aegean for Kayseri?
I doubt about validity of this calculator.

[Karkurdu]

Is that too much balkan/aegean for Kayseri?
I doubt about validity of this calculator.

Which calc. is this?

[Kaspias]

Is that too much balkan/aegean for Kayseri?
I doubt about validity of this calculator.

Not too much. In same parallel with GR_Central Anatolia

Greek_Central_Anatolia: 3.7606

Balkanic-Aegean 58.33
Caucasian 41.67


Which means basically Turkmen + Anatolian.

[Yaglakar]

You should tell him that they're not of Oghuz Turkic stock.

Our medieval ancestors traced their origins to Oghuz Kaghan in their epics.


http://i64.tinypic.com/2581fdz.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/2ekj6zr.jpg

When you say Oghuz, that is a very broad term that manifested itself in different forms and ways throughout history.

[Ryuk]

Not too much. In same parallel with GR_Central Anatolia

Greek_Central_Anatolia: 3.7606

Balkanic-Aegean 58.33
Caucasian 41.67


Which means basically Turkmen + Anatolian.

Thanks:thumb001: