Al Andalus (Morisco Kit)

[FilhoV]

Granada, Andalusia
R1b1a and U63ba



Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit ZZ2243872

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 32.69
2 West_Med 29.3
3 East_Med 27.4
4 Northeast_African 6.41
5 South_Asian 3.2
6 Baltic 0.64
7 Oceanian 0.19
8 Red_Sea 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 15.7
2 North_Italian 15.77
3 Spanish_Andalucia 15.94
4 Spanish_Murcia 16.66
5 Spanish_Extremadura 17.03
6 Spanish_Valencia 17.1
7 Portuguese 17.68
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 17.99
9 West_Sicilian 18
10 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.5
11 Spanish_Aragon 19.07
12 Spanish_Galicia 19.15
13 Spanish_Cataluna 19.36
14 Spanish_Cantabria 20.5
15 Italian_Abruzzo 20.95
16 South_Italian 22.32
17 Southwest_French 22.6
18 East_Sicilian 22.79
19 Italian_Jewish 23.02
20 Greek_Thessaly 23.67

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.9% Italian_Jewish + 43.1% French_Basque @ 10.5
2 51.9% Libyan_Jewish + 48.1% French_Basque @ 10.54
3 55.8% Algerian_Jewish + 44.2% French_Basque @ 10.83
4 51.8% Tunisian_Jewish + 48.2% French_Basque @ 10.88
5 61.4% Spanish_Aragon + 38.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 10.95
6 56.5% Spanish_Aragon + 43.5% Italian_Jewish @ 10.98
7 57.7% Spanish_Aragon + 42.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 11.15
8 61.7% Spanish_Aragon + 38.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 11.23
9 68.6% Spanish_Andalucia + 31.4% Libyan_Jewish @ 11.27
10 64% Spanish_Andalucia + 36% Italian_Jewish @ 11.27
11 69.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 30.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 11.48
12 65.5% Spanish_Andalucia + 34.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 11.5
13 66% Spanish_Valencia + 34% Libyan_Jewish @ 11.5
14 61.3% Spanish_Valencia + 38.7% Italian_Jewish @ 11.62
15 59.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 40.9% Italian_Jewish @ 11.63
16 64.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 35.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 11.76
17 66.5% Spanish_Valencia + 33.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 11.76
18 62.7% Spanish_Murcia + 37.3% Italian_Jewish @ 11.77
19 62.6% Spanish_Valencia + 37.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 11.79
20 55.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 44.5% French_Basque @ 11.83

[xripkan]

Very interesting results! I checked his K15 and Dodecad K12b and he seems somehow half Sephardite and half Iberian converted to Islam.

[Erronkari]

Very intetesting!
More italian than iberian genetically talking.

[Lucas]

Very intetesting!
More italian than iberian genetically talking.

This is important remark. I have feelign that those Spaniards who migrated to America were on average more "Italian" than modern ones. Many times when I make reports for Latinos there are in their Euro part quite Italian (for example Italian component in K36 is higher than Iberian, which is not the case for original Spaniards) and I'm not talking of course about Argentina / Urugyay/ Brazilia which are Italian admixed by recent migrations but such case is for Puertoricans many times.
Any theory for that?

[Voskos]

We'd need a kit from exactly before to see how the dna got influenced by the settlers.

[Token]

This is important remark. I have feelign that those Spaniards who migrated to America were on average more "Italian" than modern ones. Many times when I make reports for Latinos there are in their Euro part quite Italian (for example Italian component in K36 is higher than Iberian, which is not the case for original Spaniards) and I'm not talking of course about Argentina / Urugyay/ Brazilia which are Italian admixed by recent migrations but such case is for Puertoricans many times.
Any theory for that?

This has also been perceived by geneticists. They bring up the possibility of Conversos migrating en masse to Latin America.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-07748-z
We also detect South/East Mediterranean ancestry across Latin America, probably stemming mostly from the clandestine colonial migration of Christian converts of non-European origin (Conversos).

[Chaos One]

Hmmm...if he has in fact Moorish background, shouldn't his Red Sea be somewhat higher than only 0.15? It's weird to think it would only affect East Med (which is not THAT high between Moroccans for example - not to a point to make it close to West Med mixing with Iberians) and not Red Sea.

[Erronkari]

This is important remark. I have feelign that those Spaniards who migrated to America were on average more "Italian" than modern ones. Many times when I make reports for Latinos there are in their Euro part quite Italian (for example Italian component in K36 is higher than Iberian, which is not the case for original Spaniards) and I'm not talking of course about Argentina / Urugyay/ Brazilia which are Italian admixed by recent migrations but such case is for Puertoricans many times.
Any theory for that?

Exactly!
In the case of puerto-ricans/mexicans/centralamericans (but also here in the south) it seems that they have an important sephardic jewish background because in colonial times apparently many spaniards who traveled as conquistadores/adelantados had sephardic ancestry.
Probably many of them were cripto-jews or at least partly sephardic.
In many Gedmatch calculators they have some italian as the main population, and we must remember that sephardic cluster is just next to sicilian and others of Italy.

Now I see that Token said the same and better explained than me.
Even it's just a theory, not a fact I think, but it sounds an accurate hyphotesis.

[Gallop]

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NTzCzuM1oHY/XJbeRd3rG0I/AAAAAAAAAKU/uQj5lym4s8QlOUmrKcD6Ng_sucZZIfJXQCLcBGAs/s640/genesis.gedmatch.com_fcgi-bin_admixPaintDiff22.cgi.png
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I have carried out the comparison between your kit and mine. He was Andalusí and I am Andalusian.
What do you think? I honestly do not know how to analyze it.

[FilhoV]

We'd need a kit from exactly before to see how the dna got influenced by the settlers.

GED match results from bronze age Portuguese from lower Alentejo
Kit Number: T277697 Elapsed Time: 4.91 seconds


Population
North_Atlantic 46.80
Baltic 4.86
West_Med 45.59
West_Asian -
East_Med 2.75
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[FilhoV]

The distance is bad I think the Northeast African really effects it but in reality this is probably the best of his mixed mode considering he was from Granada.

11 69.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 30.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 11.48


So more than half Spanish more like 2/3rds

[Voskos]

@filhov that portuguese (not the morisco in OP but the one you posted quoting me) is bronze age, since then a lot mixing happened with phoenicians and romans before the moors arrived.

[Lucas]

This has also been perceived by geneticists. They bring up the possibility of Conversos migrating en masse to Latin America.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-07748-z
We also detect South/East Mediterranean ancestry across Latin America, probably stemming mostly from the clandestine colonial migration of Christian converts of non-European origin (Conversos).





Exactly!
In the case of puerto-ricans/mexicans/centralamericans (but also here in the south) it seems that they have an important sephardic jewish background because in colonial times apparently many spaniards who traveled as conquistadores/adelantados had sephardic ancestry.
Probably many of them were cripto-jews or at least partly sephardic.
In many Gedmatch calculators they have some italian as the main population, and we must remember that sephardic cluster is just next to sicilian and others of Italy.

Now I see that Token said the same and better explained than me.
Even it's just a theory, not a fact I think, but it sounds an accurate hyphotesis.

Yes, this is what is most plausible explanation to me. In the same time Spain was "de-sephardized" because of that...

So modern Spaniards are more Iberian than average Spaniard from XVI century, and modern colonial Creoles are more Italian-like than not only modern Spanairds, but even those average XVI century Spaniards...

[FilhoV]

Bump

[marco]

That’s not a moor as you can clearly see by the results

[Adamm]

That’s not a moor as you can clearly see by the results

It all depends on the definition you give to the word 'Moor', in this case it probably means a resident of Iberia with a muslim background. I have more kits samples from Moorish graves in Spain"

Kit PY9273538

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.1
2 West_Med 29.95
3 East_Med 12.2
4 Northeast_African 9.21
5 Baltic 6.71
6 West_Asian 4.45
7 Red_Sea 3.49
8 Oceanian 1.77
9 Amerindian 0.98
10 East_Asian 0.13



Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Andalucia 11.5
2 Spanish_Extremadura 11.65
3 Portuguese 12.26
4 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 12.63
5 Spanish_Murcia 12.75
6 Spanish_Galicia 12.78
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 12.95
8 North_Italian 13.48
9 Spanish_Valencia 13.84
10 Spanish_Cantabria 14.08
11 Spanish_Cataluna 14.65
12 Spanish_Aragon 14.95
13 Southwest_French 15.89
14 Tuscan 16.58
15 French 19.57
16 West_Sicilian 20.74
17 Italian_Abruzzo 22.16
18 Greek_Thessaly 22.76
19 French_Basque 23.58
20 Romanian 24.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89% Spanish_Andalucia + 11% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 5.74
2 87.3% Spanish_Andalucia + 12.7% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 5.91
3 87.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 12.9% Somali @ 5.92
4 86.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 13.2% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 6.02
5 86.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 13.9% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 6.53
6 86.4% Spanish_Andalucia + 13.6% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 6.56
7 90% Spanish_Andalucia + 10% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 6.8
8 86.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 13.3% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 7.18
9 89.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 10.3% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 7.19
10 86.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 13.9% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 7.2
11 88.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 11.5% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 7.21
12 86.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 13.5% Somali @ 7.27
13 89.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 10.2% Hadza @ 7.37
14 89% Spanish_Andalucia + 11% Maasai @ 7.44
15 85.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 14.7% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 7.51
16 85.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 14.4% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 7.6
17 88.5% Spanish_Extremadura + 11.5% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 7.67
18 83.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 16.7% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 7.67
19 84.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 15.5% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 7.68
20 85.1% Spanish_Cantabria + 14.9% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 7.74



Kit XU2905144

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 27.41
2 North_Atlantic 25.87
3 East_Med 16.73
4 Red_Sea 11.91
5 West_Asian 7.93
6 Sub-Saharan 3.26
7 Baltic 2.89
8 Amerindian 1.75
9 Siberian 1.73
10 South_Asian 0.31
11 Northeast_African 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 12.98
2 North_Italian 13.87
3 West_Sicilian 14.78
4 Spanish_Extremadura 15.41
5 Italian_Abruzzo 16.16
6 Spanish_Andalucia 16.63
7 Portuguese 16.89
8 Spanish_Galicia 17.14
9 Spanish_Murcia 17.31
10 East_Sicilian 18.04
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 18.22
12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.45
13 South_Italian 18.61
14 Central_Greek 18.74
15 Spanish_Valencia 18.75
16 Greek_Thessaly 18.86
17 Spanish_Cataluna 19.69
18 Spanish_Cantabria 20.12
19 Spanish_Aragon 20.41
20 Sephardic_Jewish 21.59

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.1% French_Basque + 46.9% Bedouin @ 6.57
2 51.6% French_Basque + 48.4% Syrian @ 8.07
3 64% Spanish_Aragon + 36% Bedouin @ 8.34
4 69.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 30.2% Bedouin @ 8.45
5 64.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 35.5% Bedouin @ 8.48
6 72.1% Spanish_Extremadura + 27.9% Bedouin @ 8.55
7 67.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 32.7% Bedouin @ 8.58
8 53.6% French_Basque + 46.4% Jordanian @ 8.6
9 74.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 25.2% Saudi @ 8.63
10 61.9% Southwest_French + 38.1% Bedouin @ 8.66
11 59.2% French_Basque + 40.8% Saudi @ 8.71
12 53.9% French_Basque + 46.1% Palestinian @ 8.78
13 63.4% Spanish_Extremadura + 36.6% Moroccan @ 8.9
14 71.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 28.8% Syrian @ 8.99
15 54.2% French_Basque + 45.8% Samaritan @ 9.04
16 60.9% Spanish_Andalucia + 39.1% Moroccan @ 9.05
17 62.8% Spanish_Aragon + 37.2% Syrian @ 9.1
18 77.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 22.8% Saudi @ 9.11
19 63.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 36.7% Syrian @ 9.13
20 63.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 36.3% Mozabite_Berber @ 9.18


Kit HD9863067

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.72
2 West_Med 25.18
3 East_Med 16.72
4 Baltic 10.97
5 Red_Sea 5.85
6 Northeast_African 2.69
7 West_Asian 2.3
8 East_Asian 1.26
9 Sub-Saharan 1.15
10 Amerindian 1.11
11 Oceanian 0.72
12 South_Asian 0.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 6.59
2 Portuguese 6.95
3 Spanish_Extremadura 7.09
4 Spanish_Galicia 7.83
5 Spanish_Murcia 8.41
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 9
7 Spanish_Andalucia 9.22
8 Spanish_Valencia 9.65
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 10.19
10 Spanish_Cataluna 10.29
11 Tuscan 10.44
12 Spanish_Cantabria 11.76
13 Spanish_Aragon 13.04
14 Southwest_French 13.7
15 French 14.27
16 West_Sicilian 16.2
17 Greek_Thessaly 17.23
18 Italian_Abruzzo 17.56
19 Romanian 17.95
20 Bulgarian 18.77

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.4% Southwest_French + 25.6% Egyptian @ 2.19
2 80.3% Spanish_Galicia + 19.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.9
3 84.4% Spanish_Galicia + 15.6% Egyptian @ 2.91
4 77.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 22.5% Egyptian @ 2.98
5 78.2% Spanish_Galicia + 21.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.01
6 82.1% Portuguese + 17.9% Moroccan @ 3.03
7 82.3% Portuguese + 17.7% Tunisian @ 3.06
8 80.5% Spanish_Galicia + 19.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.12
9 86.3% Portuguese + 13.7% Egyptian @ 3.13
10 75% Southwest_French + 25% Bedouin @ 3.14
11 81.9% Portuguese + 18.1% Algerian @ 3.18
12 86.7% Portuguese + 13.3% Bedouin @ 3.21
13 84.8% Spanish_Galicia + 15.2% Jordanian @ 3.24
14 78% Spanish_Cantabria + 22% Bedouin @ 3.26
15 84.9% Spanish_Galicia + 15.1% Bedouin @ 3.28
16 85.2% Spanish_Galicia + 14.8% Samaritan @ 3.29
17 85% Spanish_Galicia + 15% Palestinian @ 3.32
18 78.3% Spanish_Galicia + 21.7% Italian_Jewish @ 3.33
19 76.2% Spanish_Galicia + 23.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.34
20 74.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 25.3% Moroccan @ 3.37


Kit DK7311611

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.8
2 West_Med 27.81
3 East_Med 17.36
4 Baltic 7.57
5 Red_Sea 7.39
6 Northeast_African 4.31
7 Sub-Saharan 1.4
8 Amerindian 0.9
9 West_Asian 0.55
10 Siberian 0.44
11 Oceanian 0.28
12 East_Asian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Extremadura 8.44
2 Portuguese 9.15
3 Spanish_Murcia 9.65
4 North_Italian 9.75
5 Spanish_Andalucia 9.79
6 Spanish_Galicia 9.8
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.48
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 10.91
9 Spanish_Valencia 11.1
10 Tuscan 12.42
11 Spanish_Cataluna 12.49
12 Spanish_Cantabria 12.84
13 Spanish_Aragon 13.25
14 Southwest_French 14.98
15 West_Sicilian 17.25
16 French 17.72
17 Italian_Abruzzo 19.35
18 Greek_Thessaly 20
19 East_Sicilian 21.73
20 Romanian 22.2

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 28.6% Moroccan @ 2.53
2 71.2% Spanish_Valencia + 28.8% Moroccan @ 2.79
3 67.2% Spanish_Aragon + 32.8% Moroccan @ 2.86
4 74.2% Spanish_Murcia + 25.8% Moroccan @ 2.86
5 71.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 28.6% Algerian @ 3
6 72.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 27.5% Moroccan @ 3.04
7 77.1% Spanish_Extremadura + 22.9% Moroccan @ 3.07
8 68% Spanish_Cantabria + 32% Moroccan @ 3.15
9 72.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 27.6% Tunisian @ 3.18
10 74.2% Spanish_Andalucia + 25.8% Moroccan @ 3.32
11 67% Spanish_Aragon + 33% Algerian @ 3.33
12 71.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 28.1% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.38
13 67.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 32.2% Algerian @ 3.4
14 75.7% Portuguese + 24.3% Moroccan @ 3.42
15 64.2% Southwest_French + 35.8% Algerian @ 3.47
16 68.1% Spanish_Aragon + 31.9% Tunisian @ 3.49
17 64.5% Southwest_French + 35.5% Moroccan @ 3.51
18 68.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 31.1% Tunisian @ 3.56
19 77.4% Spanish_Extremadura + 22.6% Algerian @ 3.64
20 68.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 31.1% Moroccan @ 3.65



Kit AN1720805

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 30.68
2 North_Atlantic 26.47
3 East_Med 25.06
4 Baltic 5.79
5 Red_Sea 4.36
6 Sub-Saharan 3.9
7 Amerindian 2.3
8 South_Asian 1.44

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 11.78
2 North_Italian 12.5
3 West_Sicilian 13.91
4 Spanish_Extremadura 15.68
5 Spanish_Andalucia 15.94
6 Spanish_Murcia 16.57
7 Portuguese 16.57
8 Spanish_Valencia 16.74
9 Spanish_Galicia 17.43
10 Italian_Abruzzo 17.51
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 18
12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.18
13 Greek_Thessaly 18.38
14 East_Sicilian 18.48
15 South_Italian 18.53
16 Spanish_Cataluna 18.9
17 Central_Greek 19.27
18 Spanish_Aragon 19.67
19 Spanish_Cantabria 19.74
20 Ashkenazi 20.02

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.2% Algerian_Jewish + 38.8% French_Basque @ 7.87
2 68.9% Tuscan + 31.1% Sardinian @ 7.92
3 50.9% Spanish_Aragon + 49.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 7.99
4 50.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 49.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 8.17
5 51.7% Algerian_Jewish + 48.3% Southwest_French @ 8.18
6 55.9% Spanish_Valencia + 44.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 8.18
7 60.9% Spanish_Valencia + 39.1% Tunisian @ 8.18
8 57.7% Spanish_Andalucia + 42.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 8.42
9 53.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 46.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 8.52
10 62.7% Spanish_Andalucia + 37.3% Tunisian @ 8.53
11 58.4% Spanish_Extremadura + 41.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 8.69
12 56.5% Spanish_Murcia + 43.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 8.76
13 56.2% Spanish_Aragon + 43.8% Tunisian @ 8.82
14 61% Spanish_Valencia + 39% Algerian @ 8.87
15 61.5% Spanish_Valencia + 38.5% Mozabite_Berber @ 8.91
16 72.1% North_Italian + 27.9% Mozabite_Berber @ 8.93
17 72.1% North_Italian + 27.9% Tunisian @ 8.96
18 54.9% Spanish_Galicia + 45.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 8.99
19 53.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 46.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 9.05
20 64.1% West_Sicilian + 35.9% Sardinian @ 9.1

[FilhoV]

It all depends on the definition you give to the word 'Moor', in this case it probably means a resident of Iberia with a muslim background. I have more kits samples from Moorish graves in Spain"

Kit PY9273538

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.1
2 West_Med 29.95
3 East_Med 12.2
4 Northeast_African 9.21
5 Baltic 6.71
6 West_Asian 4.45
7 Red_Sea 3.49
8 Oceanian 1.77
9 Amerindian 0.98
10 East_Asian 0.13



Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Andalucia 11.5
2 Spanish_Extremadura 11.65
3 Portuguese 12.26
4 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 12.63
5 Spanish_Murcia 12.75
6 Spanish_Galicia 12.78
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 12.95
8 North_Italian 13.48
9 Spanish_Valencia 13.84
10 Spanish_Cantabria 14.08
11 Spanish_Cataluna 14.65
12 Spanish_Aragon 14.95
13 Southwest_French 15.89
14 Tuscan 16.58
15 French 19.57
16 West_Sicilian 20.74
17 Italian_Abruzzo 22.16
18 Greek_Thessaly 22.76
19 French_Basque 23.58
20 Romanian 24.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89% Spanish_Andalucia + 11% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 5.74
2 87.3% Spanish_Andalucia + 12.7% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 5.91
3 87.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 12.9% Somali @ 5.92
4 86.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 13.2% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 6.02
5 86.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 13.9% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 6.53
6 86.4% Spanish_Andalucia + 13.6% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 6.56
7 90% Spanish_Andalucia + 10% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 6.8
8 86.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 13.3% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 7.18
9 89.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 10.3% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 7.19
10 86.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 13.9% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 7.2
11 88.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 11.5% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 7.21
12 86.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 13.5% Somali @ 7.27
13 89.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 10.2% Hadza @ 7.37
14 89% Spanish_Andalucia + 11% Maasai @ 7.44
15 85.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 14.7% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 7.51
16 85.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 14.4% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 7.6
17 88.5% Spanish_Extremadura + 11.5% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 7.67
18 83.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 16.7% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 7.67
19 84.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 15.5% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 7.68
20 85.1% Spanish_Cantabria + 14.9% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 7.74



Kit XU2905144

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 27.41
2 North_Atlantic 25.87
3 East_Med 16.73
4 Red_Sea 11.91
5 West_Asian 7.93
6 Sub-Saharan 3.26
7 Baltic 2.89
8 Amerindian 1.75
9 Siberian 1.73
10 South_Asian 0.31
11 Northeast_African 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 12.98
2 North_Italian 13.87
3 West_Sicilian 14.78
4 Spanish_Extremadura 15.41
5 Italian_Abruzzo 16.16
6 Spanish_Andalucia 16.63
7 Portuguese 16.89
8 Spanish_Galicia 17.14
9 Spanish_Murcia 17.31
10 East_Sicilian 18.04
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 18.22
12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.45
13 South_Italian 18.61
14 Central_Greek 18.74
15 Spanish_Valencia 18.75
16 Greek_Thessaly 18.86
17 Spanish_Cataluna 19.69
18 Spanish_Cantabria 20.12
19 Spanish_Aragon 20.41
20 Sephardic_Jewish 21.59

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.1% French_Basque + 46.9% Bedouin @ 6.57
2 51.6% French_Basque + 48.4% Syrian @ 8.07
3 64% Spanish_Aragon + 36% Bedouin @ 8.34
4 69.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 30.2% Bedouin @ 8.45
5 64.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 35.5% Bedouin @ 8.48
6 72.1% Spanish_Extremadura + 27.9% Bedouin @ 8.55
7 67.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 32.7% Bedouin @ 8.58
8 53.6% French_Basque + 46.4% Jordanian @ 8.6
9 74.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 25.2% Saudi @ 8.63
10 61.9% Southwest_French + 38.1% Bedouin @ 8.66
11 59.2% French_Basque + 40.8% Saudi @ 8.71
12 53.9% French_Basque + 46.1% Palestinian @ 8.78
13 63.4% Spanish_Extremadura + 36.6% Moroccan @ 8.9
14 71.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 28.8% Syrian @ 8.99
15 54.2% French_Basque + 45.8% Samaritan @ 9.04
16 60.9% Spanish_Andalucia + 39.1% Moroccan @ 9.05
17 62.8% Spanish_Aragon + 37.2% Syrian @ 9.1
18 77.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 22.8% Saudi @ 9.11
19 63.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 36.7% Syrian @ 9.13
20 63.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 36.3% Mozabite_Berber @ 9.18


Kit HD9863067

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.72
2 West_Med 25.18
3 East_Med 16.72
4 Baltic 10.97
5 Red_Sea 5.85
6 Northeast_African 2.69
7 West_Asian 2.3
8 East_Asian 1.26
9 Sub-Saharan 1.15
10 Amerindian 1.11
11 Oceanian 0.72
12 South_Asian 0.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 6.59
2 Portuguese 6.95
3 Spanish_Extremadura 7.09
4 Spanish_Galicia 7.83
5 Spanish_Murcia 8.41
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 9
7 Spanish_Andalucia 9.22
8 Spanish_Valencia 9.65
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 10.19
10 Spanish_Cataluna 10.29
11 Tuscan 10.44
12 Spanish_Cantabria 11.76
13 Spanish_Aragon 13.04
14 Southwest_French 13.7
15 French 14.27
16 West_Sicilian 16.2
17 Greek_Thessaly 17.23
18 Italian_Abruzzo 17.56
19 Romanian 17.95
20 Bulgarian 18.77

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.4% Southwest_French + 25.6% Egyptian @ 2.19
2 80.3% Spanish_Galicia + 19.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.9
3 84.4% Spanish_Galicia + 15.6% Egyptian @ 2.91
4 77.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 22.5% Egyptian @ 2.98
5 78.2% Spanish_Galicia + 21.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.01
6 82.1% Portuguese + 17.9% Moroccan @ 3.03
7 82.3% Portuguese + 17.7% Tunisian @ 3.06
8 80.5% Spanish_Galicia + 19.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.12
9 86.3% Portuguese + 13.7% Egyptian @ 3.13
10 75% Southwest_French + 25% Bedouin @ 3.14
11 81.9% Portuguese + 18.1% Algerian @ 3.18
12 86.7% Portuguese + 13.3% Bedouin @ 3.21
13 84.8% Spanish_Galicia + 15.2% Jordanian @ 3.24
14 78% Spanish_Cantabria + 22% Bedouin @ 3.26
15 84.9% Spanish_Galicia + 15.1% Bedouin @ 3.28
16 85.2% Spanish_Galicia + 14.8% Samaritan @ 3.29
17 85% Spanish_Galicia + 15% Palestinian @ 3.32
18 78.3% Spanish_Galicia + 21.7% Italian_Jewish @ 3.33
19 76.2% Spanish_Galicia + 23.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.34
20 74.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 25.3% Moroccan @ 3.37


Kit DK7311611

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.8
2 West_Med 27.81
3 East_Med 17.36
4 Baltic 7.57
5 Red_Sea 7.39
6 Northeast_African 4.31
7 Sub-Saharan 1.4
8 Amerindian 0.9
9 West_Asian 0.55
10 Siberian 0.44
11 Oceanian 0.28
12 East_Asian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Extremadura 8.44
2 Portuguese 9.15
3 Spanish_Murcia 9.65
4 North_Italian 9.75
5 Spanish_Andalucia 9.79
6 Spanish_Galicia 9.8
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.48
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 10.91
9 Spanish_Valencia 11.1
10 Tuscan 12.42
11 Spanish_Cataluna 12.49
12 Spanish_Cantabria 12.84
13 Spanish_Aragon 13.25
14 Southwest_French 14.98
15 West_Sicilian 17.25
16 French 17.72
17 Italian_Abruzzo 19.35
18 Greek_Thessaly 20
19 East_Sicilian 21.73
20 Romanian 22.2

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 28.6% Moroccan @ 2.53
2 71.2% Spanish_Valencia + 28.8% Moroccan @ 2.79
3 67.2% Spanish_Aragon + 32.8% Moroccan @ 2.86
4 74.2% Spanish_Murcia + 25.8% Moroccan @ 2.86
5 71.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 28.6% Algerian @ 3
6 72.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 27.5% Moroccan @ 3.04
7 77.1% Spanish_Extremadura + 22.9% Moroccan @ 3.07
8 68% Spanish_Cantabria + 32% Moroccan @ 3.15
9 72.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 27.6% Tunisian @ 3.18
10 74.2% Spanish_Andalucia + 25.8% Moroccan @ 3.32
11 67% Spanish_Aragon + 33% Algerian @ 3.33
12 71.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 28.1% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.38
13 67.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 32.2% Algerian @ 3.4
14 75.7% Portuguese + 24.3% Moroccan @ 3.42
15 64.2% Southwest_French + 35.8% Algerian @ 3.47
16 68.1% Spanish_Aragon + 31.9% Tunisian @ 3.49
17 64.5% Southwest_French + 35.5% Moroccan @ 3.51
18 68.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 31.1% Tunisian @ 3.56
19 77.4% Spanish_Extremadura + 22.6% Algerian @ 3.64
20 68.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 31.1% Moroccan @ 3.65



Kit AN1720805

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 30.68
2 North_Atlantic 26.47
3 East_Med 25.06
4 Baltic 5.79
5 Red_Sea 4.36
6 Sub-Saharan 3.9
7 Amerindian 2.3
8 South_Asian 1.44

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 11.78
2 North_Italian 12.5
3 West_Sicilian 13.91
4 Spanish_Extremadura 15.68
5 Spanish_Andalucia 15.94
6 Spanish_Murcia 16.57
7 Portuguese 16.57
8 Spanish_Valencia 16.74
9 Spanish_Galicia 17.43
10 Italian_Abruzzo 17.51
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 18
12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.18
13 Greek_Thessaly 18.38
14 East_Sicilian 18.48
15 South_Italian 18.53
16 Spanish_Cataluna 18.9
17 Central_Greek 19.27
18 Spanish_Aragon 19.67
19 Spanish_Cantabria 19.74
20 Ashkenazi 20.02

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.2% Algerian_Jewish + 38.8% French_Basque @ 7.87
2 68.9% Tuscan + 31.1% Sardinian @ 7.92
3 50.9% Spanish_Aragon + 49.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 7.99
4 50.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 49.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 8.17
5 51.7% Algerian_Jewish + 48.3% Southwest_French @ 8.18
6 55.9% Spanish_Valencia + 44.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 8.18
7 60.9% Spanish_Valencia + 39.1% Tunisian @ 8.18
8 57.7% Spanish_Andalucia + 42.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 8.42
9 53.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 46.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 8.52
10 62.7% Spanish_Andalucia + 37.3% Tunisian @ 8.53
11 58.4% Spanish_Extremadura + 41.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 8.69
12 56.5% Spanish_Murcia + 43.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 8.76
13 56.2% Spanish_Aragon + 43.8% Tunisian @ 8.82
14 61% Spanish_Valencia + 39% Algerian @ 8.87
15 61.5% Spanish_Valencia + 38.5% Mozabite_Berber @ 8.91
16 72.1% North_Italian + 27.9% Mozabite_Berber @ 8.93
17 72.1% North_Italian + 27.9% Tunisian @ 8.96
18 54.9% Spanish_Galicia + 45.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 8.99
19 53.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 46.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 9.05
20 64.1% West_Sicilian + 35.9% Sardinian @ 9.1

Thanks I appreciate the kits

Also I did a G25 scale with this same populations

https://i.imgur.com/iq9Of0e.jpg

[Hajimurad]

I read many times about crypto-Jews migrated to Latin America, but nothing about crypto-Muslims. Did crypto-Muslims (Moriscos) settled in Spanish and Portuguese colonies?

[Gaditanian]

This is important remark. I have feelign that those Spaniards who migrated to America were on average more "Italian" than modern ones. Many times when I make reports for Latinos there are in their Euro part quite Italian (for example Italian component in K36 is higher than Iberian, which is not the case for original Spaniards) and I'm not talking of course about Argentina / Urugyay/ Brazilia which are Italian admixed by recent migrations but such case is for Puertoricans many times.
Any theory for that?

My theory is that South Iberians in that times they still had their ancient roman roots.

Andalusia was the Baetica, the most romanized region outside of Italian Peninsula so since centuries of roman domination, Baetica received a mass inmigration from there.

The Reconquista expelled this ancients Romanized Spaniards converted to Islam that in fact, were descendant of this first people in Iberian Peninsula.

[marco]

I consider moors to be of a mixed background genetically

[FilhoV]

Bump

[Beowulf]

very cool one but the kit number doesn't work anymore :(

[RogueState]

It's fascinating to see high mixing between Iberians and North Africans, and no populations with such combination remain nowadays in Iberia.

Can we conclude that nearly all the Moriscos migrated back to North Africa or as crypto-conversos in Latin America?

I mean, we hardly find any North African admixture among Andalusians nowadays?

[FilhoV]

very cool one but the kit number doesn't work anymore :(

Not surprised after law enforcement got involved with Gedmatch many kits were deleted by universities and people with an interest in genetics.

[Gallop]

It's fascinating to see high mixing between Iberians and North Africans, and no populations with such combination remain nowadays in Iberia.

Can we conclude that nearly all the Moriscos migrated back to North Africa or as crypto-conversos in Latin America?

I mean, we hardly find any North African admixture among Andalusians nowadays?

#9

I was able to compare this kit with mine back in the day, but they didn't pay any attention to me.



Mi kit with the morisco kit

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NTzCzuM1oHY/XJbeRd3rG0I/AAAAAAAAAKU/uQj5lym4s8QlOUmrKcD6Ng_sucZZIfJXQCLcBGAs/s640/genesis.gedmatch.com_fcgi-bin_admixPaintDiff22.cgi.png
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1AKXQYPIJb8/XJbjnQVv33I/AAAAAAAAAKg/oSGJZ3qouYAB9hrhb4Vdo0okWtnMfnJLACLcBGAs/s640/genesis.gedmatch.com_fcgi-bin_admixPaintDiff22.cgi%2B%25281%2529.png


I have carried out the comparison between your kit and mine. He was Andalusí and I am Andalusian.
What do you think? I honestly do not know how to analyze it.

My first chromosome is Atlantic, they say that the first chromosome is inherited entirely from the mother.


Well, the Moor was much more Mediterranean and Weste Asian and East Med than me who has a NE, Caucasus contribution and he has a practically S.ASIAN chromosome. :p

It is possible that Puerto Ricans and other South Americans are getting a fake Italian due to the residual West Asian of the Moriscos.

Os interesan más los muertos que los vivos, anda!

[Kriptc06]

This is important remark. I have feelign that those Spaniards who migrated to America were on average more "Italian" than modern ones. Many times when I make reports for Latinos there are in their Euro part quite Italian (for example Italian component in K36 is higher than Iberian, which is not the case for original Spaniards) and I'm not talking of course about Argentina / Urugyay/ Brazilia which are Italian admixed by recent migrations but such case is for Puertoricans many times.
Any theory for that?

Didn't know that, that explains a lot then

[Gallop]

This is important remark. I have feelign that those Spaniards who migrated to America were on average more "Italian" than modern ones. Many times when I make reports for Latinos there are in their Euro part quite Italian (for example Italian component in K36 is higher than Iberian, which is not the case for original Spaniards) and I'm not talking of course about Argentina / Urugyay/ Brazilia which are Italian admixed by recent migrations but such case is for Puertoricans many times.
Any theory for that?


Eurogenes K36 offers a larger set of 36 components - but is subject to false positive classifications.


Here is my /Carollo Smith=Gallop/ comparison with Puerto Ricans and random Mexicans and Colombians. The similarity with Spaniards is more than evident.


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj4vfMqYzX0rAYvy41Ho-w7n4MDw5pq3PAffjMsfleHfKTE0KGiSfwkBoKy1pZueCUDUn8R E7NUkb_ZoRv4ATJb79iCtzu_QF5YNo_21CwOKRDP5bSfRLeAEC BbfqMFqFxAa75hWpgjxwUxn4I7tW-TQwvKZZWb1MaTaRubFS1--Hzlj5f53Xuo69Q4=s973

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhSwg1_QYmtJr2qrKUZz0InhGZxxXzwZIkUCrth8nFoHg NdLyFJvzMwbww4r3gA-VnsaZ3Y6t3PIRdSmZXznCNfcNX53T2QmOBceAaeGbiEOxXPzGp kLKdHRGbyAkNgGHpbr3r4TPSjEf4ucsxxzUQwe_3da21XLTwh8 FEqZxOZWGw8UgZCqPLkMV_t=s969

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjOVu3IszWittHxybQ926YwfhC2gmh62BeZwlZ2E4T_WO Aa9HNPDxC_seXzy34bOgTbk8cWVLAC2lum8ht49qOY2KToyHP0 doKMIsiiXiDe61Uk72dd26Y6S6ZqcKnOVAhM2IbxZqVC-aKrKn5Tqz9fzlGXe2ERaEHjGyRCG8iatTyeRWK5AftzwP_2=s9 72

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjhtWeAQx7Xi5KlOY2dUKFW3pA6fsDdja3Go3MTc3ymAg N_00ZqCLaGhYlWSnYGGbg2vEszvO2JyPvdkDJkF8gNPXAFiwkB 8cngL3phcW7Wz-W1VDK-mClGUHhQRk5NU5IISq4lfk8-oxvWvGSURZo6c3xaT5VtxZUg62Bz8-bBeodtPuyaYYrcIyvD=s972

It could be said that Puerto Ricans are the ones who obtain the most Europeans, spaniard evidently.

[Eurafricanid]

This is important remark. I have feelign that those Spaniards who migrated to America were on average more "Italian" than modern ones. Many times when I make reports for Latinos there are in their Euro part quite Italian (for example Italian component in K36 is higher than Iberian, which is not the case for original Spaniards) and I'm not talking of course about Argentina / Urugyay/ Brazilia which are Italian admixed by recent migrations but such case is for Puertoricans many times.
Any theory for that?

That's interesting, because I do match very much Italian Lazio, in my results:


This is my closest match with pop. averages (without Basque and Sardinian):

Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 0.7110% / 0.00710996
47.4 Western_African
23.2 French_Chalosse
13.4 Italian_Lazio
7.0 Spanish_Soria
2.8 French_Bearn
2.6 Armenian_Erzurum
2.4 Native_Brazilian
1.2 Armenian_Van

[Gallop]

Surprise!

I had saved the K36 Gallop versus Moorish with this Moorish from an extinct ethnic group.

Excited?

Comparison of Andalusí Moorish with authentic Andalusian Gallop
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kD2pBAux3OI/XKfP-ym4rVI/AAAAAAAAAUs/_sWMhEITP_ASIfY5YNB9aGvwTfsoqgwXQCLcBGAs/s1600/ZZ2243872_EB4566MORISCOGRANADA.jpeg

The color black signifies everything we do not share between the two. You can see the unbridgeable gap on chromosome 8

On chromosome 10 there is a large euro center entry.

Gray is Italian

Basque is frequently seen and Basque-arabian is repeated on three chromosomes, on one more significantly.

Looking at the other K15 and harrapa World it is quite possible that the Arabian of K36 is Mediterranean rather than Arabian proper.

East-Balcan is present on chromosome 1 and 22.

In 2 we only share Basque.

East Asian, China?

In the collage I made of Al Andalus with the AI, I was surprised to see some Chinese people, I would never have imagined it. :)