Why do serbs score high on west med on euro 13k

[Ikol]

Why do serbs score high on west med on euro 13k. comparing to croats, bosnians etc.

[Ayetooey]

All Balkanites do, it isn't just Serbs. Cos of more neolithic farmer heritage.

[HungryLion]

Bosnians score the same, I saw some new results...
But, I agree, I am curious what push us western, and it's not usual paleo balkan conection bc they are southern and not that western.

[Ikol]

i got 19, when i look at croats they get, 13-15 including serbs

[Kaspias]

All Balkanites do, it isn't just Serbs. Cos of more neolithic farmer heritage.

this

[HungryLion]

I don't understand why are we ploting so much western on K15, most of Serbs plot north western, I saw one bosnian guy( muslim) who plot same as serbs just even more western...Muslim from "srednja Bosna".

[Ikol]

can u tell me more about neolithic farmer heritage. :o

[HungryLion]

this

But some paleo balkan modern population isn't that much western? Maybe we mixed whit some diferent folks on balkan in 7,8,9 ceuntry?

[HungryLion]

can u tell me more about neolithic farmer heritage. :o

Regular paleo balkan folks...E,J etc...

[Kaspias]

But some paleo balkan modern population isn't that much western? Maybe we mixed whit some diferent folks on balkan in 7,8,9 ceuntry?

First settlers of Balkans are these Neolithic farmers. They were around 80% Med carrier as far as i remember. Then those Illyrians-Dacians-Thracians came there. Their genetic was predominantly Steppe,CHG.(This is the reason why you score West Asian and high North Atlantic). Farmers mixed with them. After that Slavs invaded the Balkans and mixed with the people who formerly mixed.

[Deniz]

First settlers of Balkans are these Neolithic farmers. They were around 80% Med carrier as far as i remember. Then those Illyrians-Dacians-Thracians came there. Their genetic was predominantly Steppe,CHG.(This is the reason why you score West Asian and high North Atlantic). Farmers mixed with them. After that Slavs invaded the Balkans and mixed with the people who formerly mixed.

What happened the other Steppe people?Huns,Avars,Bulgars,Pechenegs,Cumans,Magyars etc ?They didnt mix with Serbs?

[Dušan]

i got 19, when i look at croats they get, 13-15 including serbs

Thats above our national average. I got 18.56%, too.

Serbian average for west-med admixture in K13 is 15.84%, according to gedmatch.

[Ikol]

Thats above our national average. I got 18.56%, too.

Serbian average for west-med admixture in K13 is 15.84%, according to gedmatch.


post ur euro 13k

[North Sea]

Albanians score the highest in the Balkans AFAIK

[Kaspias]

What happened the other Steppe people?Huns,Avars,Bulgars,Pechenegs,Cumans,Magyars etc ?They didnt mix with Serbs?

After the Hunnic Empire fall, ethnic Huns tried to go back to Central Asia but they confronted with Slavs. Some went to the Crimea then Caucasia. But some landed in the Balkans. Settled in between Carpathian Basin and the Rhodope Mountains. In this sense, i don't think they mixed with Western Balkans with high amounts.

The same case with more likelihood, Pecheneks and Cumans used as mercenary soldiers by Germans and Slavs. They settled in Carpathian Basin - Romania in early times of migration. But Byzantine called them and created a whole army with them. The main population of Cumans and Pechenegs permanently settled in N. Macedonia and Bulgaria. This actually could explain why we see some people with 3-4% East Eurasian among Bulgarians.

Croats definitely mixed with Avars so do Serbs. Avars simply assimilated under the Balkan - Slav culture. And this can be the reason why we see ~2% EE in the Western Balkans.

Magyars preferred to be allied with Europeans. They assimilated Magyars on the Carpathian Basin. I don't know if they migrated towards the Balkans. But they went to the Vojvodina, it is clear with the Hungarian guy that i posted 1-2 week ago.

[Dušan]

post ur euro 13k

Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.79
2 North_Atlantic 22.35
3 West_Med 18.56
4 East_Med 12.69
5 West_Asian 8.12
6 Siberian 1.73
7 Red_Sea 1.12
8 Oceanian 0.93
9 South_Asian 0.72

[Ikol]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.39
2 North_Atlantic 27.28
3 West_Med 19.07
4 East_Med 13.42
5 West_Asian 7.32
6 Red_Sea 1.92
7 Amerindian 1.05
8 East_Asian 0.68
9 Oceanian 0.49
10 Northeast_African 0.36


kinda big difference between us

[Dušan]

kinda big difference between us

You have more North Atlantic, I have more Baltic.
The rest is similar.

[HungryLion]

After the Hunnic Empire fall, ethnic Huns tried to go back to Central Asia but they confronted with Slavs. Some went to the Crimea then Caucasia. But some landed in the Balkans. Settled in between Carpathian Basin and the Rhodope Mountains. In this sense, i don't think they mixed with Western Balkans with high amounts.

The same case with more likelihood, Pecheneks and Cumans used as mercenary soldiers by Germans and Slavs. They settled in Carpathian Basin - Romania in early times of migration. But Byzantine called them and created a whole army with them. The main population of Cumans and Pechenegs permanently settled in N. Macedonia and Bulgaria. This actually could explain why we see some people with 3-4% East Eurasian among Bulgarians.

Croats definitely mixed with Avars so do Serbs. Avars simply assimilated under the Balkan - Slav culture. And this can be the reason why we see ~2% EE in the Western Balkans.

Magyars preferred to be allied with Europeans. They assimilated Magyars on the Carpathian Basin. I don't know if they migrated towards the Balkans. But they went to the Vojvodina, it is clear with the Hungarian guy that i posted 1-2 week ago.

Croats are more conected whit Avars, Serbs isn't that much..There is a few theory about Avars and Croats.

[Kaspias]

Croats are more conected whit Avars, Serbs isn't that much..There is a few theory about Avars and Croats.

Yeah because of this i specifically stated Croats. But it is almost clear they mixed with whole Western Balkans

[Voskos]

Early European Gedza aka EEG admixture.

[Ikol]

Serbian 4.31
2 Romanian 7.1
3 Moldavian 7.45
4 Hungarian 8.44
5 Croatian 8.75
6 Bulgarian 9.37
7 Austrian 10.7
8 East_German 12.02
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.33
10 South_Polish 15.82
11 West_German 15.88
12 Ukrainian 16.49
13 French 16.84
14 Greek_Thessaly 17.07
15 North_Italian 17.14
16 South_Dutch 17.19
17 Polish 19.25
18 Portuguese 19.37
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.42
20 Tuscan 19.57


So are all these spanish protuguese tuscan bullcrap.? Including french and north italian ?

[Dick]

because our ancestors liked Med pussy.

[Pribislav]

i got 19, when i look at croats they get, 13-15 including serbs

Average K13 Eurogenes of 23 Serbs from variuos regions - West_Med is 16.4%.
https://forum.krstarica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=534211&d=1550928449