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Impaler
01-04-2020, 08:20 PM
My first cousin on mother side results:

Thuringii + Roman (11.99)
Gaul + Roman (12.39)
Roman (14.01)
Gaul (16.16)
Thuringii (17.77)
Gallo-Roman (18.54)
Frank (18.9)


https://i.ibb.co/BZCks9P/alexdi.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Seya
01-04-2020, 08:42 PM
my mom's last

https://i.imgur.com/ciGTsxw.jpg

**JC**
01-05-2020, 02:26 AM
My ancient sample breakdown

Celts 20.1%
Saxons 15.7%
Danish Vikings 15%
Longobards 10.7%
Vikings (Swedish) 10.7%
Franks 8.1%
Norwegian Vikings 5.35%
Vandals 4.3%
Visigoths 3.73%
Vikings (Icelandic) 3.61%
Ostrogoths 2.83%

And my mum's

Celts 27.9%
Danish Vikings 13.5%
Saxons 12.4%
Vikings (Swedish) 11.7%
Longobards 9.53%
Norwegian Vikings 7.69%
Vikings (Icelandic) 5.5%
Vandals 4.88%
Franks 3.15%
Alemanni 1.77%
Visigoths 1.76%

Expanded Populations
Me
Visigoth + Saxon (3.073)
Viking Danish + Frank (3.099)
Saxon (3.555)
Viking Danish (5.199)
Frank (5.83)
Visigoth (7.0)
Vandal (8.529)

Mum
Viking Norwegian + Celt (2.252)
Celt + Vandal (2.346)
Saxon (3.447)
Viking Danish (4.591)
Vandal (5.875)
Celt (6.448)
Viking Norwegian (7.11)

Gallop
01-05-2020, 06:07 PM
Mine

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wumi1O8NdFM/XhIyRl_p5zI/AAAAAAAACAE/X3xAaKFqGOcyfwu257bn__65qQTbfNShQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/meCOMPOSICION.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dvzkCW9zscg/XhIxTbnmBII/AAAAAAAAB_g/LWXwBKS7rccbqOSCXZcw8lLx0EMnqPtAQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MineWheel.JPEG


Some old examples
(Some specific values have been marked in the screenshot randomly when you move the mouse, not because I would like to highlight any results)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jyk9S9Vkg-8/XhIw80-FnJI/AAAAAAAAB-s/b1bOishEEq0yQY8RwbjiHCQjmGsIZxLhgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/ETRUSCANcIVITAVECCHIAR474.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JuDAuZEFDrM/XhIw6ZVio1I/AAAAAAAAB-o/Mue2RsNu_B0I0RcBUJ1UohesWoC4Dr6swCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/ETRUSCANcivitavecchiaR473.JPEG

Obtaining Al-Andalus in these ancient samples is anachronistic, so it must be some genetic contribution similar to that in a heterogeneous Al-Andalus.

Al-Andalus in this Etruscan show what can you attend?

Likewise, the results of Illyrians in modern Spaniards are there modern Spaniards who get twice as much as I do...?

πολεμιστής
01-07-2020, 03:58 PM
https://i.imgur.com/oysYi7j.jpg

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I got the same thing on my old one. :)

Roman, Thracian, Illyrian.

Gallop
01-08-2020, 11:46 AM
Kit: Illyrian / Dalmatian (I4331)

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
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1. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 2.89 - R55 -
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2. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 6.104 - R33 -
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3. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 6.682 - I4332 -
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4. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 7.366 - scy192 -
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5. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 7.45 - R36 -
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6. Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) ..... 7.683 - SLC1006 - ?
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7. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 7.879 - I12514 -
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8. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 7.939 - R1287 -
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9. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 8.328 - I2515
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10. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 8.347 - I12515 -
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11. Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 8.523 - DA198 -
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12. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 9.012 - scy197b - ?
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13. Medieval Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 9.133 - I12649 -
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14. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 9.596 - I3313 -
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15. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 9.607 - I12516 -
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16. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 9.612 - I2649
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17. Iberian / Piedmont (580 AD) ..... 9.867 - CL94 -
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18. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) ..... 10.22 - R1221 -
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19. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 10.26 - I7498 -
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20. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 10.34 - SZ28 - ?
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21. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 10.46 - I2514
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22. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 10.65 - R474 -
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23. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 10.73 - I12647 -
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24. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 11.03 - NS3c - ?
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25. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (1060 AD) ..... 11.04 - I10853 -
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26. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 11.2 - FN_2
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27. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 11.22 - R61 -
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28. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 11.73 - CL36 - ?
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29. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2385 BC) ..... 11.89 - UNTA58_68Sk1 -
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30. Roman Mix San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 11.89 - R118 -
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31. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 11.92 - I3499 -
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32. Medieval Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 12.18 - I12645 -
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33. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 12.19 - R1 -
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34. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 12.22 - I3981 -
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35. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 12.23 - R970 -
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36. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 12.46 - I2647
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37. Late Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 12.53 - R105 -
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38. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1005 AD) ..... 12.6 - R1285 -
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39. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) ..... 12.69 - R63 -
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40. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 12.77 - MJ12 -
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41. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 12.8 - scy300 -
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42. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 13.1 - R111 -
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43. Ostrogoth Mix (495 AD) ..... 13.18 - AEH_1 - ?
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44. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 13.25 - I12034 -
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45. Medieval Piedmont (580 AD) ..... 13.3 - CL57 -
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46. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 13.5 - I3585 -
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47. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 13.55 - R1540
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48. Roman Villa Granada Spain (300 AD) ..... 13.7 - I4055 -
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49. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 13.85 - I7425 -
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50. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (580 AD) ..... 13.95 - CL47b
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51. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 14.06 - R1283 -
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52. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.11 - scy305 -
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53. Medieval Iberian (580 AD) ..... 14.37 - CL23 -
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54. Villanovan Etruscan Italy VGG (850 BC) ..... 14.38 - R1015 -
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55. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.41 - scy311 -
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56. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (1060 AD) ..... 14.41 - I10851 -
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57. Gallo-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 14.44 - R108 -
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58. High Status Burial Mound Haunstetten (2112 BC) ..... 14.48 - POST_50 -
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59. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 14.52 - SZ43 -
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60. High Status Male Haunstetten (2059 BC) ..... 14.52 - POST_44 -
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61. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (880 AD) ..... 14.55 - I10895 -
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62. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 14.61 - FN_2
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63. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 14.63 - BSS31
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64. North Alpine Bronze Age (1794 BC) ..... 14.89 - AITI_43 -
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65. Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) ..... 14.9 - I7457 -
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66. Roman Villa Granada Spain (300 AD) ..... 14.93 - I3982 -
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67. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 15.02 - I12644 -
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68. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 15.07 - SZ45 -
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69. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 15.16 - LM_406_T -
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70. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 15.16 - OBS137 - ?
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71. Justinian Plague Victim (760 AD) ..... 15.18 - LSD021 - ?
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72. Gallo-Roman Celt Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 15.24 - I10866 -
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73. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona (165 AD) ..... 15.24 - R835 -
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74. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 15.31 - I3581 -
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75. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (990 AD) ..... 15.39 - I10892 -
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76. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 15.46 - R473 -
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77. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (1060 AD) ..... 15.47 - I10852 -
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78. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 15.5 - DA199 -
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79. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 15.51 - I2644
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80. Carthago-Roman San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 15.59 - R120 -
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81. Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 15.66 - DA195 -
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82. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (580 AD) ..... 15.66 - CL47 - ?
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83. Roman Villa Granada Spain (350 AD) ..... 15.83 - I3983 -
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84. North Alpine Bronze Age (1815 BC) ..... 16.04 - AITI_72 -
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85. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 16.05 - I3582 -
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86. Roman Villa Granada Spain (300 AD) ..... 16.19 - I4054 -
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87. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 16.2 - SZ36 -
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88. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 16.22 - R973 -
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89. Roman-Carthago Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 16.26 - I8475 -
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90. Gallo-Roman Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 16.29 - R109 -
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91. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 16.33 - OBS116 - ?
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92. North Central Lombard (580 AD) ..... 16.39 - CL63 - ?
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93. Iron Age Catalan (680 BC) ..... 16.53 - I12641 -
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94. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 16.66 - R32 -
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95. North Alpine Middle Bronze Age (1563 BC) ..... 16.66 - OTTM_151ind2 -
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96. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 16.68 - I3576 -
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97. Vasconic-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 16.99 - R110 -
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98. Hispano-Roman-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate (950 AD) ..... 17.04 - I7497 -
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99. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 17.06 - R60 -
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100. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 17.28 - R969 -
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101. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 17.44 - R1290 -
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102. Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) ..... 17.59 - I12032 -
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103. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) ..... 17.66 - I4556 -
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104. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 17.72 - R107 -
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105. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 17.77 - SZ32 - ?
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106. Franco Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1215 AD) ..... 17.78 - R62 -
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107. Swiss Germanic (580 AD) ..... 17.96 - CL102 - ?
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108. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 17.99 - SZ18 -
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109. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 18.01 - R57 -
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110. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 18.08 - R54 -
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111. Crusader Knight French / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 18.16 - SI-40 -
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112. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) ..... 18.27 - AED_1108 -
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113. North Alpine Bronze Age (1677 BC) ..... 18.28 - AITI_98 -
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114. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 18.28 - R59 -
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115. Celtoiberian Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 18.43 - R116 -
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116. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 18.43 - I3575 -
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117. Latin Tribe Inland BE (650 BC) ..... 18.57 - R1021 -
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118. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 18.59 - NS3b - ?
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119. Medieval Tyrolian (580 AD) ..... 18.71 - CL53 -
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120. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 18.76 - R52 -
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121. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 18.77 - R113 -
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122. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) ..... 18.8 - R1220 -
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123. Rugii Tribe Oder-Vistula (135 AD) ..... 18.83 - PCA36 - ?
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124. North Alpine Bronze Age (1790 BC) ..... 19.03 - AITI_78 -
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125. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 19.11 - I7424 -
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126. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 19.27 - I12208 -
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127. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 19.27 - R117 -
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128. Celtiberian Mix Tribe Northern Spain (2300 BC) ..... 19.34 - I3238 -
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129. Germanic Mixed Tribe (505 AD) ..... 19.34 - AED513 - ?
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130. Imperial Rome Centocelle (282 AD) ..... 19.55 - R47 -
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131. Central Roman Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 19.56 - R35 -
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132. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 19.57 - I12209 -
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133. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 19.71 - SI-41 -
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134. Carthago Outlier San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 19.73 - R121 -
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135. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PC (400 BC) ..... 19.77 - R435 -
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136. North Alpine Bronze Age (1797 BC) ..... 19.8 - AITI_66 -
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137. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 19.81 - I5769 -
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138. North Alpine Bronze Age (1752 BC) ..... 19.84 - AITI_120 -
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139. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 19.9 - SZ19 -
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140. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona (165 AD) ..... 19.9 - R836 -
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141. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 19.92 - R64 -
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142. Central Roman (580 AD) ..... 20.04 - CL121 -
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143. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 20.12 - I12163 -
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144. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 20.16 - LM_306_T -
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145. Iron Age Catalan (620 BC) ..... 20.19 - I12640 -
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146. Imperial Rome Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 20.22 - R131 -
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147. Latin Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 20.32 - R37 -
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148. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) ..... 20.46 - I12878 -
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149. Carthaginian Roman (275 BC) ..... 20.52 - I8204 -
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150. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 20.59 - LM_913_T -
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151. Central Roman Casale del Dolce (200 AD) ..... 20.59 - R125 -
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152. Roman Villa Tarragona (350 AD) ..... 20.6 - I6491 -
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153. Pre-Roman Girona (280 BC) ..... 20.64 - I3324 -
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154. Roman Era Girona (80 AD) ..... 20.68 - I8339 -
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155. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 20.78 - R56 -
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156. Greuthungi / Ostrogoth (310 AD) ..... 20.82 - MJ37 -
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157. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) ..... 20.83 - BIM33
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158. Celtibertian Mix (275 BC) ..... 20.83 - I8203 -
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159. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 20.83 - LM_403_T -
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160. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 20.87 - R51 -
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161. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 20.92 - R1289 -
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162. Ilergetes Outlier Catalan (440 BC) ..... 21.01 - I12410 -
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163. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 21.07 - R437 -
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164. North Alpine Bronze Age (1950 BC) ..... 21.12 - AITI_70 -
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165. Vascones Tribe Vasconia (280 BC) ..... 21.14 - I3759 -
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166. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 21.2 - Niedertiefenbach1 - ?
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167. Celtiberian Alemannic Mix (520 AD) ..... 21.29 - STR_535 -
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168. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 21.3 - R136 -
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169. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 21.37 - I12031 -
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170. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 21.38 - R436 -
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171. Vasconic Tribe (275 BC) ..... 21.4 - I8209 -
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172. North Alpine Bronze Age (1788 BC) ..... 21.4 - AITI_40 -
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173. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 21.47 - SI-53 -
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174. Boscombe Bowmen Amesbury (2300 BC) ..... 21.53 - I2416-BB -
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175. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 21.56 - SZ23 -
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176. Bronze Age Haunstetten Germany (1966 BC) ..... 21.64 - POST_28 -
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177. Vasconic Tribe Empuries (275 BC) ..... 21.65 - I8214 -
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178. Latin Aristocrat Castel di Decima (800 BC) ..... 21.65 - R1016 -
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179. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1440 BC) ..... 21.67 - I2472 -
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180. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 21.72 - I12162 -
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181. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 21.91 - SZ38 - ?
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182. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (200 BC) ..... 21.92 - I3320 -
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183. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 22.03 - R851 -
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184. Czech Velke Prilepy (2050 BC) ..... 22.04 - Rise577 -
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185. Vascones Tribe (460 BC) ..... 22.05 - I12879 -
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186. Vascones Tribe Vasconia (280 BC) ..... 22.07 - I3758 -
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187. High Status North Alpine Bronze Age (1789 BC) ..... 22.16 - AITI_119 -
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188. Post Medieval Ellwangen Germany (1550 AD) ..... 22.17 - ELW098A_549O
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189. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 22.25 - GTE-A1 -
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190. Tartessian Archaic Andalusia (600 BC) ..... 22.29 - I12561 -
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191. Basque Carolingian (650 AD) ..... 22.39 - I3777 -
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192. Medieval Sardinia (1300 AD) ..... 22.45 - Geridu2568-1 -
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193. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 22.55 - SZ40 - ?
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194. Celtic-Mix Visigoth Girona Spain (550 AD) ..... 22.57 - I12164 -
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195. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 22.64 - R58 -
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196. Pre-Slav Medieval Poland (1100 AD) ..... 22.73 - PCA157_Mar6 - ?
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197. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 22.81 - SZ5 -
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198. Germanic Tribe Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 22.86 - R106 -
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199. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 22.94 - VAD001 -
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200. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 23.03 - I7499 -
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BreakingBed
01-11-2020, 06:13 PM
My ancient sample breakdown

Safavid Dynasty 20.9%
Hellenic Romans 14.6%
Romans 14%
Canaanites and Semites 9.89%
Hittites 8.79%
Alans 8.69%
Maurya Empire 5.5%
Minoans 5.02%
Ancient Greeks 4.78%
Ghaznavid Dynasty 4.69%
Pontic Empire 2.94%

My expanded populations

Safavid (10.9)
Hellenic Roman + Safavid (12.67)
Alan + Safavid (13.43)

Helen
01-11-2020, 06:36 PM
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (3.391)
Al-Andalus + Illyrian (4.64)
Illyrian (6.491)
Al-Andalus (8.219)
Roman Hispania (8.482)
Gallo-Roman (8.844)
Etruscan (12.16)

Illyrians 18.5%
Roman Hispania 16.1%
Romans 13.8%
Gallo-Romans 12.8%
Etruscans 8.34%
Iberians 7.46%
Al-Andalus 6.25%
Vascones 5.57%
Visigoths 3.88%
Franks 3.72%
Carthaginians 3.34%

**JC**
01-12-2020, 12:01 AM
A couple of my more "exotic" outliers after last update.

178. Gallo-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 14.32 - R108

Closest Ancient
Gallo-Roman + Frank (3.723)
Vascones + Frank (4.46)
Visigoth (7.62)
Frank (8.358)
Gallo-Roman (9.042)
Etruscan (10.23)
Vascones (11.91)

Top 85% match vs all users

191. Bronze Age Haunstetten Germany (1966 BC) ..... 14.62 - POST_28

Closest Ancient
Vandal + Vascones (3.06)
Latin + Saxon (3.849)
Ostrogoth (10.69)
Latin (11.46)
Saxon (11.46)
Vandal (11.64)
Vascones (11.85)

Top 90% match vs all users

JohnnyP
01-16-2020, 06:14 AM
Roman + Scythian (9.311)
Roman + Gaul (13.51)
Gaul (15.45)
Roman (15.99)
Scythian (17.81)
Frank (19.73)

Romans - 25.8%,
Scythians 14.9%,
Illyrians 11.1%,
Gauls 8.04%,
Roman Hispania 7.81%,
Franks 7.8%,
Sarmatians 7.03%,
Gallo-Romans 5.06%,
Visigoths 4.79%,
Hellenic Romans 3.74%,
Avars 3.7%

1. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) .....
Top 98% match vs all users

2. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) .....
Top 78% match vs all users

3. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) .....
Top 95% match vs all users

4. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) .....
Top 75% match vs all users

5. Central Roman (590 AD) .....
Top 90% match vs all users


Scythian Southern Moldova
270 BC
scy192
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 21)
5 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 46.36 cM
Largest segment=154 SNPs / 20.09 cM

Your raw DNA is 93% closer than other matching users

Central Roman / Mixed
590 AD
SZ19
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 17)
4 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 18.09 cM
Largest segment=215 SNPs / 12.72 cM

Your raw DNA is 95% closer than other matching users


Medieval Piedmont
580 AD
CL57
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 17)
5 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 21.86 cM
Largest segment=143 SNPs / 11.19 cM

Your raw DNA is 97% closer than other matching users


Avar
590 AD
AV1
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see] ?
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 36)
5 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 25.76 cM
Largest segment=284 SNPs / 8.87 cM

Your raw DNA is 93% closer than other matching users


Scythian Moldova
300 BC
scy301
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 28)
2 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 8.11 cM
Largest segment=135 SNPs / 5.32 cM

Your raw DNA is 65% closer than other matching users


Celtic Briton Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-22
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 24)
4 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 17.33 cM
Largest segment=181 SNPs / 5.2 cM

Your raw DNA is 90% closer than other matching users



Ptolemaic Egypt
50 BC
JK2888
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 2)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 2.38 cM
Largest segment=112 SNPs / 2.38 cM

Your raw DNA is 38% closer than other matching users

Lemminkäinen
01-17-2020, 10:10 AM
My timeline from the Iron Age to the present. I set up very conservative limits, over 5 cM segment value, which is seen as most reliable by all testers, and maximum required SNP's.

http://www.elisanet.fi/mauri_my/myancestralline.jpg

Adamm
01-17-2020, 10:30 AM
https://i.imgur.com/huU3rRq.png

Lemminkäinen
01-17-2020, 10:40 AM
Limiting only ten samples the picture still shows certain Merovingian connection. This is a recently disputed idea, although was before recent linguistic "realization" in Finland a generally accepted theory based on archaeology.

There are obviously several weaknesses regarding generated ancient segments and for that reason these results should be taken with a grain of salt, but everything looks fine if we look only at archaeology and forget newer linguistic theories made after the 80's.

http://www.elisanet.fi/mauri_my/myancestralline2.jpg

Gallop
01-17-2020, 11:58 AM
At the moment I get two samples at 400 snp and one at 300 snp

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PYItAmtBfJE/XiGubpgcYHI/AAAAAAAACNA/ndIVrbXjt-QM3vdTftIlDDgTZke5sLbGwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MedievalVillaMagnaItalyANDImperialRomeMausoleo400s np%252Cjpeg.jpg


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TQz32849zH8/XiGueykR8bI/AAAAAAAACNE/_gAf2oW2qusxl-NkcOIqvnGGKSpfaerPgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/NeolithicIrelandBallynahatty300snp.jpg

War Chef
01-17-2020, 02:48 PM
Limiting only ten samples the picture still shows certain Merovingian connection. This is a recently disputed idea, although was before recent linguistic "realization" in Finland a generally accepted theory based on archaeology.

There are obviously several weaknesses regarding generated ancient segments and for that reason these results should be taken with a grain of salt, but everything looks fine if we look only at archaeology and forget newer linguistic theories made after the 80's.

http://www.elisanet.fi/mauri_my/myancestralline2.jpg

Merovingians and Langobards because they both originated in Denmark/Sweden.
Coastal Finns have a lot of Swedish ancestry maybe from norse settlement

nittionia
01-17-2020, 11:22 PM
Matching all of these?
https://i.imgur.com/WpF7loU.png

Adamm
01-18-2020, 02:31 AM
New Minoan DNA spotlight, check yours.

https://i.imgur.com/cLDXCvK.png

https://i.imgur.com/dgtQr1h.png

SUPREEEEEME
01-18-2020, 07:58 AM
New Minoan DNA spotlight, check yours.

https://i.imgur.com/cLDXCvK.png

https://i.imgur.com/dgtQr1h.png

I match 5 of them

Minoan Lasithi

mtDNA Haplogroup: U5a1
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 29.046
Sample Match! 94% closer than others users

Minoan Lasithi

mtDNA Haplogroup: H5
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 31.378
Sample Match! 94% closer than others users

Minoan Lasithi

mtDNA Haplogroup: H2c1
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 27.960
Sample Match! 94% closer than others users

Minoan Moni Odigitira

mtDNA Haplogroup: X2h
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 24.831
Sample Match! 95% closer than others users

Minoan Moni Odigitria

mtDNA Haplogroup: ?
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a2b2a

Genetic Distance: 31.034
Sample Match! 94% closer than others users

Kamal900
01-18-2020, 07:59 AM
I match 5 of them

Minoan Lasithi

mtDNA Haplogroup: U5a1
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 29.046
Sample Match! 94% closer than others users

Minoan Lasithi

mtDNA Haplogroup: H5
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 31.378
Sample Match! 94% closer than others users

Minoan Lasithi

mtDNA Haplogroup: H2c1
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 27.960
Sample Match! 94% closer than others users

Minoan Moni Odigitira

mtDNA Haplogroup: X2h
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 24.831
Sample Match! 95% closer than others users

Minoan Moni Odigitria

mtDNA Haplogroup: ?
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a2b2a

Genetic Distance: 31.034
Sample Match! 94% closer than others users

Doesn't surprise me considering that western Jewish peoples mtDNA is mostly Southern European.

SUPREEEEEME
01-18-2020, 08:03 AM
Doesn't surprise me considering that western Jewish peoples mtDNA is mostly Southern European.

Mine isn't :)

These are autosomal matches, right? My matches keep changing every now and then.

Kamal900
01-18-2020, 08:14 AM
Mine isn't :)

These are autosomal matches, right? My matches keep changing every now and then.

Yup, they are. It means you share genetic similarities between you and the ancient Minoans who had significant west asian ancestry in their genepool.

whoibe
01-18-2020, 08:19 AM
New Minoan DNA spotlight, check yours.

We match the same samples:

Minoan Lasithi

mtDNA Haplogroup: U5a1
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 24.547
Sample Match! 96% closer than others users
Minoan Lasithi

mtDNA Haplogroup: H1bm
Y-DNA Haplogroup: J2a1

Genetic Distance: 36.677
Sample Match! 95% closer than others users
Minoan Lasithi

mtDNA Haplogroup: H5
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 25.201
Sample Match! 97% closer than others users
Minoan Lasithi

mtDNA Haplogroup: H2c1
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 25.449
Sample Match! 95% closer than others users
Minoan Moni Odigitira

mtDNA Haplogroup: L3'4
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 33.760
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
Minoan Moni Odigitira

mtDNA Haplogroup: ?
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 34.400
Sample Match! 97% closer than others users
Minoan Moni Odigitira

mtDNA Haplogroup: X2h
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 21.940
Sample Match! 96% closer than others users
Minoan Moni Odigitria

mtDNA Haplogroup: ?
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a2b2a

Genetic Distance: 30.889
Sample Match! 94% closer than others users
Minoan Moni Odigitria

mtDNA Haplogroup: ?
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 31.537
Sample Match! 94% closer than others users

Adamm
01-18-2020, 09:12 AM
We match the same samples:

Minoan Lasithi

mtDNA Haplogroup: U5a1
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 24.547
Sample Match! 96% closer than others users
Minoan Lasithi

mtDNA Haplogroup: H1bm
Y-DNA Haplogroup: J2a1

Genetic Distance: 36.677
Sample Match! 95% closer than others users
Minoan Lasithi

mtDNA Haplogroup: H5
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 25.201
Sample Match! 97% closer than others users
Minoan Lasithi

mtDNA Haplogroup: H2c1
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 25.449
Sample Match! 95% closer than others users
Minoan Moni Odigitira

mtDNA Haplogroup: L3'4
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 33.760
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
Minoan Moni Odigitira

mtDNA Haplogroup: ?
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 34.400
Sample Match! 97% closer than others users
Minoan Moni Odigitira

mtDNA Haplogroup: X2h
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 21.940
Sample Match! 96% closer than others users
Minoan Moni Odigitria

mtDNA Haplogroup: ?
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a2b2a

Genetic Distance: 30.889
Sample Match! 94% closer than others users
Minoan Moni Odigitria

mtDNA Haplogroup: ?
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 31.537
Sample Match! 94% closer than others users

Can I see your DNA results?

whoibe
01-18-2020, 09:45 AM
Can I see your DNA results?

Which calc?

talombo
01-18-2020, 10:06 AM
I match all the Minoans
--------------------------------------------------------------
Minoan Lasithi
I0071 (2000 BC)

mtDNA Haplogroup: U5a1
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Deep Dive Match! 31% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 16.946
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
--------------------------------------------------------------
Minoan Lasithi
I0073 (2000 BC)

mtDNA Haplogroup: H1bm
Y-DNA Haplogroup: J2a1

Genetic Distance: 29.791
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
--------------------------------------------------------------
Minoan Lasithi
I0074 (2000 BC)

mtDNA Haplogroup: H5
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 18.809
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
--------------------------------------------------------------
Minoan Lasithi
I9005 (2000 BC)

mtDNA Haplogroup: H2c1
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 17.155
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
--------------------------------------------------------------
Minoan Moni Odigitira
I9127 (2000 BC)

mtDNA Haplogroup: L3'4
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 31.093
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
--------------------------------------------------------------
Minoan Moni Odigitira
I9128 (2000 BC)

mtDNA Haplogroup: ?
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 29.875
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
--------------------------------------------------------------
Minoan Moni Odigitira
I9129 (2000 BC)

mtDNA Haplogroup: X2h
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 15.662
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
--------------------------------------------------------------
Minoan Moni Odigitria
I9130 (2000 BC)

mtDNA Haplogroup: ?
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a2b2a

Genetic Distance: 22.670
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users
--------------------------------------------------------------
Minoan Moni Odigitria
I9131 (2000 BC)

mtDNA Haplogroup: ?
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 24.076
Sample Match! 99% closer than others users

Adamm
01-18-2020, 10:16 AM
Which calc?

I mean autosomal results (23andMe/MyHeritage/Ancestry).

whoibe
01-18-2020, 10:33 AM
I mean autosomal results (23andMe/MyHeritage/Ancestry).

MH:
Middle Eastern 37.3%
Mizrahi Jewish Iranian/Iraqi 17.4%
Greek and South Italian 14.1%
North African 13.7%
Italian 6%
Ashkenazi 2.7%
Nigerian 2.7%
West Asian 2.6%
South Asian 2.1%
Central Asian 1.4%

Lemminkäinen
01-18-2020, 11:42 AM
Merovingians and Langobards because they both originated in Denmark/Sweden.
Coastal Finns have a lot of Swedish ancestry maybe from norse settlement

This is very correct. The problem is that the Finnish history research is in a big crisis. Few Finnish historians have courage today to search times before the 14th century, because all dominant theories have been based on linguistics since the 80s and linguists say that Finns came from Urals. Today Finnish linguists say that the Finns came from Urals, not only Finnic languages. The problem is that Germanic loan words in Baltic Finnic languages are too old to serve these peculiar ideas. So, if you want to be a reputable researcher in Finland you have to deny many things, including archaeological evidences, be quietly or fabricate stories, for instance how Germans hail from Volga and were pushed to Scandinavia and Germany by Finnic warriors. This is something that can work in a small linguistic area, because these clowns hold two realities, one in home land and another abroad. Bad thing is that Finnish geneticists have to follow if they want to be reputable researchers in Finland, because our universities are small and you have to ensure your career.

Dick
01-18-2020, 12:17 PM
This is very correct. The problem is that the Finnish history research is in a big crisis. Few Finnish historians have courage today to search times before the 14th century, because all dominant theories have been based on linguistics since the 80s and linguists say that Finns came from Urals. Today Finnish linguists say that the Finns came from Urals, not only Finnic languages. The problem is that Germanic loan words in Baltic Finnic languages are too old to serve these peculiar ideas. So, if you want to be a reputable researcher in Finland you have to deny many things, including archaeological evidences, be quietly or fabricate stories, for instance how Germans hail from Volga and were pushed to Scandinavia and Germany by Finnic warriors. This is something that can work in a small linguistic area, because these clowns hold two realities, one in home land and another abroad. Bad thing is that Finnish geneticists have to follow if they want to be reputable researchers in Finland, because our universities are small and you have to ensure your career.

Heikka, the ancestor of all I1 men today, lived 4600 years ago. The timing coincides with the arrival of the indo-European steppe herders.

mitalit
01-18-2020, 12:20 PM
Al-Andalus + Frank (4.503)
Frank + Illyrian (5.195)
Gaul + Al-Andalus (5.933)
Visigoth + Al-Andalus (6.28)
Visigoth + Frank (6.468)
Illyrian (8.933)
Frank (10.42)
Gaul (11.69)
Al-Andalus (12.07)
Visigoth (12.5)

Lemminkäinen
01-18-2020, 01:27 PM
Heikka, the ancestor of all I1 men today, lived 4600 years ago. The timing coincides with the arrival of the indo-European steppe herders.

Only problem is that almost all paternal haplogroups went through a genetic bottle neck around 5000 years ago. For that reason we have to find ancient samples to find out where did our ancestors lived and where they came from. Some random Neolithic or Mesolithic I1 samples have been found, all from Europe outside steppe.

War Chef
01-18-2020, 02:11 PM
This is very correct. The problem is that the Finnish history research is in a big crisis. Few Finnish historians have courage today to search times before the 14th century, because all dominant theories have been based on linguistics since the 80s and linguists say that Finns came from Urals. Today Finnish linguists say that the Finns came from Urals, not only Finnic languages. The problem is that Germanic loan words in Baltic Finnic languages are too old to serve these peculiar ideas. So, if you want to be a reputable researcher in Finland you have to deny many things, including archaeological evidences, be quietly or fabricate stories, for instance how Germans hail from Volga and were pushed to Scandinavia and Germany by Finnic warriors. This is something that can work in a small linguistic area, because these clowns hold two realities, one in home land and another abroad. Bad thing is that Finnish geneticists have to follow if they want to be reputable researchers in Finland, because our universities are small and you have to ensure your career.


In calendar dates, Finns are estimated to have mixed with an East Eurasian CDX-like population between 170BC-320AD and with a NW European GBR-like population between 1100-1380AD.

The central date of the latter estimate is 1,240AD, which corresponds quite closely to the beginning of Swedish rule and is in the middle of the 13th. century, between the time when Finland was initially claimed for western Christendom (12th c.) and the time when the conflict between Sweden and Russia was settled (14th c.).

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/11/medieval-signal-of-swedish-admixture-in.html

Anywho here are my top matches:

https://i.imgur.com/0xlzew8.png

https://i.imgur.com/sVVoq8D.png

https://i.imgur.com/Cum13rO.png

https://i.imgur.com/EJR9O6x.png

https://i.imgur.com/LYaGeMk.png

https://i.imgur.com/u5XKK72.png

https://i.imgur.com/WCsD4Cy.png

https://i.imgur.com/iv5RR3L.png

https://i.imgur.com/qCqtQiq.png

Rędwald
01-18-2020, 02:22 PM
Ancient Populations (Updated)


Saxon + Frank (4.336)
Saxon (4.393)
Viking Danish + Frank (4.5)
Viking Danish + Saxon (4.568)
Visigoth + Saxon (4.601)
Viking Danish + Visigoth (4.612)
Viking Danish (5.984)
Frank (6.819)
Visigoth (7.729)
Vandal (8.684)

PaleoEuropean
01-18-2020, 02:24 PM
My updated ancient populations as well:

kit 1

Celt + Frank (4.869)
Viking Icelandic + Frank (5.463)
Viking Icelandic + Celt (5.788)
Celt + Saxon (5.892)
Celt (6.539)
Viking Danish + Celt (6.725)
Frank (10.13)
Viking Icelandic (10.34)
Viking Danish (10.4)
Saxon (10.79)

Kit 2

Viking Icelandic + Celt (5.376)
Celt + Frank (6.167)
Celt (6.297)
Viking Icelandic + Frank (6.305)
Viking Danish + Celt (6.609)
Viking Danish + Frank (7.404)
Viking Danish (8.925)
Frank (9.409)
Saxon (10.83)
Viking Icelandic (12.29)

Lemminkäinen
01-18-2020, 03:01 PM
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/11/medieval-signal-of-swedish-admixture-in.html



Dienekes is a poor author in this case. All glory for him in many matters, but he has a little clue regarding the Finnish history. Simply taking into account Finnish I1, no other female or male haplogroups, we can say that D. was too straightforward and simplified his results to correspond his point of view. Finnish I1 is a son of the Scandinavian L22-CTS2208 branch and is in Finland exclusively around 2000 years old. The result is proven by FtDna's Big-Y results and Y-Full. He made also an error with Siberian-Finnish admixture timings; his conclusion was that the source was Nganasan, it might be of same ancestry, but the method he used gives same dates for all Siberian-Finnish admixtures, no matter who the Siberians are, they can be Chukchi as well. This happens because small IBD's he used tend to approximate statistic noise.

Impaler
01-18-2020, 03:07 PM
Kit 1:

Seleucid + Gaul (10.8)
Hellenic Roman + Gepid (11.87)
Seleucid + Roman (11.95)
Seleucid + Gepid (12.08)
Roman + Gepid (12.15)
Roman (15.06)
Seleucid (16.77)
Hellenic Roman (17.72)
Gaul (17.77)
Gepid (18.39)


Kit 2:

Hellenic Roman + Gepid (14.7)
Pontic + Gepid (15.64)
Seleucid + Hellenic Roman (15.83)
Seleucid + Gepid (16.06)
Seleucid + Roman (16.1)
Hellenic Roman (18.68)
Roman (18.97)
Seleucid (19.74)

Bosniensis
01-18-2020, 03:17 PM
My updated ancient ancestry

Roman + Kievan Rus (6.278)
Scythian + Roman (9.228)
Gaul + Kievan Rus (12.32)
Scythian + Gaul (13.67)
Thuringii + Kievan Rus (14.11)
Scythian (15.07)
Gaul (17.39)
Roman (19.32)

Bosniensis
01-18-2020, 03:22 PM
Who is this 5th century Gepid Goth, any info, any autosomal results?

https://i.imgur.com/Ezu8BJm.png

Ford
01-18-2020, 03:25 PM
Gaul + Kievan Rus (9.715)
Thuringii + Kievan Rus (11.42)
Scythian + Gaul (11.69)
Gaul + Avar (11.82)
Scythian + Kievan Rus (12.28)
Scythian (12.85)
Gaul (16.24)
Avar (17.48)
Kievan Rus (18.0)
Thuringii (18.6)

Impaler
01-18-2020, 03:31 PM
Who is this 5th century Gepid Goth, any info, any autosomal results?

https://i.imgur.com/Ezu8BJm.png


Gepid_Serbia_ACD:VIM_2

Balkans_IA,35.2
Nordic_IA,28.6
Scythian_ZevakinoChilikta,26.4
Han,6
Nganassan,3.8

Dick
01-18-2020, 04:38 PM
Only problem is that almost all paternal haplogroups went through a genetic bottle neck around 5000 years ago. For that reason we have to find ancient samples to find out where did our ancestors lived and where they came from. Some random Neolithic or Mesolithic I1 samples have been found, all from Europe outside steppe.

Yes that’s because the ratio of women to men was like 20:1

Lemminkäinen
01-18-2020, 05:08 PM
Yes that’s because the ratio of women to men was like 20:1

I don't buy this. It was more about male clans. Men were relatives, because the world was cruel and warlike. They had to have trust and relatives protected each other. Still today cruel and lawless organizations prefer "blood brothers". Some European male haplogroups died almost out, some survived.

Dick
01-18-2020, 11:01 PM
I don't buy this. It was more about male clans. Men were relatives, because the world was cruel and warlike. They had to have trust and relatives protected each other. Still today cruel and lawless organizations prefer "blood brothers". Some European male haplogroups died almost out, some survived.

I got that info from the fb group that i see you're a part of so i wondered what are your thoughts. I think it's not true either especially the man's name, Heikka. How would anyone know that.

Dick
01-18-2020, 11:32 PM
My father got a Gold Laurel wreath for his exceptional relationship with the Hohol


https://i.imgur.com/Ya7xZQO.png

**JC**
01-19-2020, 02:12 AM
New match for me.

7. Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire (205 BC) ..... Genetic Distance 6.597 - Linton -
Top 88% match vs all users

This individual was a 50+ year old female buried in a shallow oval grave near the Linton settlement near Cambridge. The burial was aligned north to south, and she was laid on her right side with head facing west. She was approximately 1.58m tall and had Osteoarthritis and spondylosis deformans in her spine and wrist. Enamel hypoplasia indicates she had experienced health stress during childhood.

Closest Ancient
Celt + Saxon (3.637)
Celt + Vandal (3.828)
Celt + Frank (4.023)
Vandal + Saxon (4.161)
Longobard + Saxon (4.299)
Saxon (4.331)
Vandal (6.557)
Celt (7.647)
Longobard (8.3)
Frank (8.65)

Closest Modern
1. Southwest_English (4.808)
2. Southeast_English (5.292)
3. West_Scottish (5.767)
4. Orcadian (5.884)
5. Welsh (6.112)
6. North_Dutch (6.237)
7. Irish (6.317)
8. Danish (6.381)

Similar Samples
Late Medieval Icelandic Murderer (1678 AD) (3.103)
Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) (3.943)
Early Bronze Age Thames (1800 BC) (4.217)
Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) (4.331)
Bronze Age Dagger Koenigsbrunn (2046 BC) (4.907)

Haplogroups
mtDNA: H1e

**JC**
01-19-2020, 02:27 AM
Updated closest Ancient populations

Visigoth + Saxon (3.073)
Viking Danish + Frank (3.099)
Saxon + Frank (3.367)
Viking Danish + Visigoth (3.392)
Saxon (3.555)
Viking Danish + Saxon (3.626)
Viking Danish (5.199)
Frank (5.83)
Visigoth (7.0)
Vandal (8.529)

Updated Ancient Sample Breakdown:

Saxons 19.3%
Celts 16.2%
Danish Vikings 13.2%
Longobards 12.1%
Vikings Swedish 10%
Franks 9.51%
Vandals 5.64%
Norwegian Vikings 5.45%
Visigoths 3.59%
Ostrogoths 3.01%
Vikings Icelandic 1.67%

Germanic 83.47%
Celtic 16.2%
Other? 0.24%

Rędwald
01-19-2020, 02:31 AM
Modern Populations Updated


1. Southwest_English (4.893)
2. Welsh (4.923)
3. Southeast_English (5.438)
4. Flemish (6.008)
5. South_Dutch (6.697)
6. Danish (7.055)
7. Irish (7.060)
8. North_Dutch (7.109)

Coastal Elite
01-19-2020, 02:58 AM
Ancient Populations Update

Gaul + Frank (3.741)
Visigoth + Frank (4.351)
Visigoth + Gaul (5.184)
Frank (5.269)
Scythian + Frank (5.887)
Thuringii + Frank (6.135)
Gaul (7.082)
Visigoth (8.484)
Thuringii (9.386)
Scythian (12.65)

Modern Populations Update

1. South_Dutch (8.117)
2. West_German (8.120)
3. Flemish (8.163)
4. French (9.238)
5. East_German (11.05)
6. North_German (11.17)
7. Austrian (11.51)
8. Hungarian (11.99)

oszkar07
01-19-2020, 03:35 AM
I got gold sheath for this Avar sample.

Avar
590 AD
AV1
mtDNA: X2m'n ?
You are a top 96% match to this sample! This makes your relationship to this individual exceptional.

PaleoEuropean
01-19-2020, 04:10 AM
My father got a Gold Laurel wreath for his exceptional relationship with the Hohol


https://i.imgur.com/Ya7xZQO.png

I never noticed these before, apparently I am #2 for a Scotland match from the Bronze Age
https://i.imgur.com/g5Fu9A4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sXSxb9K.jpg

Dick
01-19-2020, 04:15 AM
I never noticed these before, apparently I am #2 for a Scotland match from the Bronze Age
https://i.imgur.com/g5Fu9A4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sXSxb9K.jpg


https://youtu.be/uhLCSjrtDzg

Impaler
01-19-2020, 04:17 AM
I never noticed these before, apparently I am #2 for a Scotland match from the Bronze Age
https://i.imgur.com/g5Fu9A4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sXSxb9K.jpg

How is that possible to have 28 cM with an ancient sample? :D

PaleoEuropean
01-19-2020, 04:23 AM
How is that possible to have 28 cM with an ancient sample? :D
180 and 50 XD

https://i.imgur.com/YQHBXpF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CGVTi7W.jpg

**JC**
01-19-2020, 07:15 AM
How is that possible to have 28 cM with an ancient sample? :D

4th Cousin 100x removed :p :thumb001:

Lemminkäinen
01-19-2020, 08:03 AM
I got that info from the fb group that i see you're a part of so i wondered what are your thoughts. I think it's not true either especially the man's name, Heikka. How would anyone know that.

I don't know who is Heikka and nothing about his/her opinions.

Historians know many genocides and also haplogroup replacements in Europe, the biggest one was when R1a and R1b replaced western G and I2.

Norb
01-19-2020, 08:30 AM
new 'RESULTS'
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=94686&d=1579426343
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=94687&d=1579426358

**JC**
01-19-2020, 11:45 AM
Breaking my ancient Germanic ancestry down into clearer sub-categories

North Germanic - Norsemen
33.91% Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, Icelandic, Gothic (Visigoths)
North Sea Germanic - Ingvaeonic peoples
19.3% Saxons
Elbe Germanic - Herminonic/Irminonic peoples
12.1% Longobards
Weser-Rhine Germanic - Istvaeonic peoples
9.57% Franks
East Germanic - Vandilic
8.65% Vandals, Gothic (Ostrogoths)

Gaditanian
01-19-2020, 12:46 PM
The Truest Illyrian in TA :victory0:

https://i.ibb.co/5rqqwLv/proto-Illyrian.jpg

Dick
01-19-2020, 12:49 PM
The Truest Illyrian in TA :victory0:

https://i.ibb.co/5rqqwLv/proto-Illyrian.jpg

Bosniensis will commit suicide

Gaditanian
01-19-2020, 01:03 PM
Bosniensis will commit suicide

https://media.giphy.com/media/HyDAt79JnlY4M/giphy.gif

Pubiczar
01-19-2020, 01:14 PM
I am apparently third strongest match to a BA Mycenaean out of 4083 users who match this sample...

https://i.postimg.cc/Hxs5cTM5/Screenshot-20200119-101517-Samsung-Internet.jpg (https://postimg.cc/94Kzs5JF)
https://i.postimg.cc/tCy1YqHg/Screenshot-20200119-140954-Samsung-Internet.jpg (https://postimg.cc/RqsCYzhr)

If the ancient Macedonians were Greeks than this wouldn't be a surprise.
I wonder who is the first and the second strongest match?

Lemminkäinen
01-19-2020, 02:13 PM
Ancestry proportions. Uralic ancestry is too old to seen by IBD segments outside Finland. I have never seen Uralic IBD. Smaller segments are still present in my Estonian ancestry (=Oeselians).
http://www.elisanet.fi/mauri_my/props.png

Lucas
01-19-2020, 02:19 PM
Recently on Anthrogenica Davidski (Generalissimo) started to tell the truth about MTA... I think everyone here knows who he is.

Some quotes from him for THOSE who think they share something with those ancients.



Quote Originally Posted by CelticGypsy View Post
I matched Cheddar Man on three markers at 33, with the largest segment being 13.8. So why couldn't you?
-----------------------------------------------------
Generalissimo
It's an individual from the Mesolithic, that's why.
You should expect only to share IBD hits that are less than 1cM with such people, and such shared segments are very difficult to detect unless you have full genome sequences and can use rare alleles in your IBD run.

So your IBD results are bullshit.





You can't match an ancient sample at 30 cM. It's impossible.


https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?16836-Any-experience-with-mytrueancestry-com&p=638664&viewfull=1#post638664

Lemminkäinen
01-19-2020, 02:30 PM
Recently on Anthrogenica Davidski (Generalissimo) started to tell the truth about MTA... I think everyone here knows who he is.

Some quotes from him for idiots who think they share something with those ancients.

As I already wrote there is much debatable about IBDs regarding ancient samples, but no fire without smoke. There ARE many IBD fixations, expecially near centromeres and those false IBDs can last thousands years. But again, there are also a positive correlation and it is pure logic to see it. South Europeans tend to get Mediterranean segments and Germanic speakers North European segments. It is logical, not debatable. I know Davidski. Davidski simplifies things now.

Dick
01-19-2020, 02:33 PM
Recently on Anthrogenica Davidski (Generalissimo) started to tell the truth about MTA... I think everyone here knows who he is.

Some quotes from him for morons who think they share something with those ancients.




https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?16836-Any-experience-with-mytrueancestry-com&p=638664&viewfull=1#post638664

The default is set at 1.5cm that is why the cms are high. Then all of this is nonsense including gedmatch unless you do a full genomes test if you can afford it

Pubiczar
01-19-2020, 02:34 PM
Recently on Anthrogenica Davidski (Generalissimo) started to tell the truth about MTA... I think everyone here knows who he is.

Some quotes from him for morons who think they share something with those ancients.





https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?16836-Any-experience-with-mytrueancestry-com&p=638664&viewfull=1#post638664

Maybe the real idiots are those who think that Davidski is some God of genetics or whateva...
I am not saying that they MTA are correct but at least MTA successfully predicted that I am a Macedonian, unlike you who made me a Thessalian or Bulgarian etc.
Funny how you label people as idiots, the same way Davidski does, probably as often as he changes his socks.
Are Poles so uncultured?

Lucas
01-19-2020, 02:34 PM
As I already wrote there is much debatable about IBDs regarding ancient samples, but no fire without smoke. There ARE many IBD fixations, expecially near centromeres and those false IBDs can last thousands years. But again, there are also a positive correlation and it is pure logic to see it. South Europeans tend to get Mediterranean segments and Germanic speakers North European segments. It is logical, not debatable. I know Davidski. Davidski simplifies things now.

But main thing is all those values are too big. If they would show proper few cM max, nobody would complain. But they must amuse people with extreamly high IBD matches.

Lucas
01-19-2020, 02:36 PM
Maybe the real idiots are those who think that Davidski is some God of genetics or whateva...
I am not saying that they MTA are correct but at least MTA successfully predicted that I am a Macedonian, unlike you who made me a Thessalian or Bulgarian etc.
Funny how you label people as idiots, the same way Davidski does, probably as often as he changes his socks.
Are Poles so uncultured?

What I quoted is about IBD matches not their modern population distances which are by most people detected as simple K15 (I saw many examples where ordering on the list was the same). So don't compare apples to oranges.

Lucas
01-19-2020, 02:40 PM
The default is set at 1.5cm that is why the cms are high. Then all of this is nonsense including gedmatch unless you do a full genomes test if you can afford it

And this is wrong method. They would use 0,5 cM treshold, why not then? But it is nonsene.

Dick
01-19-2020, 02:41 PM
And this is wrong method. They would use 0,5 cM treshold, why not then? But it is nonsene.

Because most people can’t afford a full genomes test

PaleoEuropean
01-19-2020, 02:43 PM
The default is set at 1.5cm that is why the cms are high. Then all of this is nonsense including gedmatch unless you do a full genomes test if you can afford it

Yea all these commercial tests are novelty, even Y and M downstream clade tests aren't 100% accurate.

Lucas
01-19-2020, 02:44 PM
Because most people can’t afford a full genomes test

So they show wrong, too high values because most people can't afford full genome test? I don't understand such logic maybe for you is ok.

So someone could create website which would show wrong medical predictions, and they excuse would be they do it for people without full genome test?

Lemminkäinen
01-19-2020, 02:45 PM
But main thing is all those values are too big. If they would show proper few cM max, nobody would complain. But they must amuse people with extreamly high IBD matches.

There will always be false segments, but you have to look all this as statistics. Weather forecast can't say exactly where rain drops fall, but it can say that rain is coming. Davidski maybe is now overjoyed because MTA equates Langobards and Goths with ancient Scandinavians. He has always objected it.

Lucas
01-19-2020, 03:06 PM
There will always be false segments, but you have to look all this as statistics. Weather forecast can't say exactly where rain drops fall, but it can say that rain is coming. Davidski maybe is now overjoyed because MTA equates Langobards and Goths with ancient Scandinavians. He has always objected it.

Generally true but in specific MTA case their statistics is based on false assumptions (too low initial treshold caused too high IBD values).

Lemminkäinen
01-19-2020, 03:09 PM
And I wrote also about statistical noise. Some ones believe, even researchers, that the IBD noise level is fixed, around 1-2 cM or something near it. But it is not true. IBD noise depends on the population, the effective population size. In big populations the noise level can be very low, but for example Saamis' IBD noise is around 3-4 cM. Then those centromere fixations make sure exceptions. And some commercial testers delete chromosomal areas to avoid unwanted results following purely their false historical ideas.

Lemminkäinen
01-19-2020, 03:10 PM
Generally true but in specific MTA case their statistics is based on false assumptions (too low initial treshold caused too high IBD values).

My previous message

Lucas
01-19-2020, 03:23 PM
And some commercial testers delete chromosomal areas to avoid unwanted results following purely their false historical ideas.

About what company you said? 23&me? They have different method of calculating autosomal similarity. Kurd form EurasiaDNA explained it but I don't have link at hand.

War Chef
01-19-2020, 03:36 PM
Maybe the real idiots are those who think that Davidski is some God of genetics or whateva...
I am not saying that they MTA are correct but at least MTA successfully predicted that I am a Macedonian, unlike you who made me a Thessalian or Bulgarian etc.
Funny how you label people as idiots, the same way Davidski does, probably as often as he changes his socks.
Are Poles so uncultured?

All 3 of these guys are Poles, including founder of MTA xD Maybe that's why PLC fell apart because they fight so much

Adamastor
01-19-2020, 03:40 PM
I always wondered why Eastern Europeans care so much about such stuff. I mean, I did a DNA test and all, but it's a pastime to me. Nothing more and not really important.

It seems they have big identity issues there. Look at member Peterski, nigga is complexed as a mixed/mongrel Latino even being 100% European.

Lucas
01-19-2020, 03:45 PM
All 3 of these guys are Poles, including founder of MTA xD Maybe that's why PLC fell apart because they fight so much

Oh interesting, who is MTA founder?:) Tell us.

Dick
01-19-2020, 03:50 PM
All 3 of these guys are Poles, including founder of MTA xD Maybe that's why PLC fell apart because they fight so much

My favorite calculator is Puntdnal and he is a Somali.

Lemminkäinen
01-19-2020, 03:51 PM
About what company you said? 23&me? They have different method of calculating autosomal similarity. Kurd form EurasiaDNA explained it but I don't have link at hand.


No, I dont mean 23, they have their own methods tailored for American white people. I meant FtDna's autosomal ancestry. Once I got Scottish ancestral links and I reported them to see how they react. They simply removed those segments in a week after my email and were sorry that "shit happens"! This is hilarious because I know, I have Scottish ancestry from the 17th century proven by church registers. I can't dispute my ancestral birth records, but either I can't say why they decided to delete those IDBs. This kind of events set a dark cloud over the credibility of commercial testers. Should I believe the result after mods they decide to do?

Lemminkäinen
01-19-2020, 03:54 PM
All 3 of these guys are Poles, including founder of MTA xD Maybe that's why PLC fell apart because they fight so much

Actually my first guess was Davidski, lol.

Lucas
01-19-2020, 03:55 PM
No, I dont mean 23, they have their own methods tailored for American white people. I meant FtDna's autosomal ancestry. Once I got Scottish ancestral links and I reported them to see how they react. They simply removed those segments in a week after my email and were sorry that "shit happens"! This is hilarious because I know, I have Scottish ancestry from the 17th century proven by church registers. I can't dispute my ancestral birth records, but either I can't say why they decided to delete those IDBs. This kind of events set a dark cloud over the credibility of commercial testers. Should I believe the result after mods they decide to do?

Wow, this is new to me... Strange reaction they had.
I tell you I have in FTDNA very high (comparing to other, except my family) Scottish link too. I asked this woman by email and she she isn't aware of any Polish ancestry. I ask FTDNA about it and will see if they will remove it too:)

War Chef
01-19-2020, 03:55 PM
Say what you will, the setup of MyTrueAncestry is well organized and even gives links to the studies, all these other noob DNA services (dnaland, etc. etc.) don't even compare. But yeah, as a rule the older a sample is, the less long each cM will be. Getting 50 cM is very suspicious, but might have to do with the way the raw data is sequenced: like 23andme doesn't do entire DNA sequencing obviously, but they hit just like 3 % of the entire genome.

War Chef
01-19-2020, 03:59 PM
I think Davidski is just mad (as always lol) that he has serious competition. I wish him the best though, Eurogenes is pretty legit it just needs to be comercialized.... global 25 is kind of flimsy and amateur looking (not marketed well) even though Davidski probably knows his DNA stuff very well........
It needs an entire website, not just some blogspot site and a paypal account

Dick
01-19-2020, 04:01 PM
I think Davidski is just mad (as always lol) that he has serious competition. I wish him the best though, Eurogenes is pretty legit it just needs to be comercialized.... global 25 is kind of flimsy and amateur looking (not marketed well) even though Davidski probably knows his DNA stuff very well........
It needs an entire website, not just some blogspot site and a paypal account

I'm pretty sure MTA is based on Eurogenes k15 calculator anyway

Lucas
01-19-2020, 04:02 PM
I think Davidski is just mad (as always lol) that he has serious competition. I wish him the best though, Eurogenes is pretty legit it just needs to be comercialized.... global 25 is kind of flimsy and amateur looking (not marketed well) even though Davidski probably knows his DNA stuff very well........
It needs an entire website, not just some blogspot site and a paypal account

Writing such things may urge him to do it lol. Maybe he is lazy.

But again, tell us who is MTA creator?:) First you wrote as you knew and then...

War Chef
01-19-2020, 04:13 PM
I'm pretty sure MTA is based on Eurogenes k15 calculator anyway

Maybe. That would be the most money-saving way - You don't even have to write the alogorithim just plug it into GEDmatch Eurogenes every time someone pays you 150$ and uploads their shit


Writing such things may urge him to do it lol. Maybe he is lazy.

But again, tell us who is MTA creator?:) First you wrote as you knew and then...

Didn't realize he reads this regularly, but good for him if he does. It'll give him better revenue.

Lucas
01-19-2020, 04:16 PM
Maybe. That would be the most money-saving way - You don't even have to write the alogorithim just plug it into GEDmatch Eurogenes every time someone pays you 150$ and uploads their shit




But you payed MTA 150$ for it??????

Lemminkäinen
01-19-2020, 04:16 PM
Wow, this is new to me... Strange reaction they had.
I tell you I have in FTDNA very high (comparing to other, except my family) Scottish link too. I asked this woman by email and she she isn't aware of any Polish ancestry. I ask FTDNA about it and will see if they will remove it too:)

Actuslly FtDna serves us in Europe much better

Lemminkäinen
01-19-2020, 04:18 PM
Wow, this is new to me... Strange reaction they had.
I tell you I have in FTDNA very high (comparing to other, except my family) Scottish link too. I asked this woman by email and she she isn't aware of any Polish ancestry. I ask FTDNA about it and will see if they will remove it too:)

Actually FtDna does better for us living in Europe.

nittionia
01-19-2020, 04:46 PM
Is ftdna still worth uploading to? I was thinking about uploading my dad's data.

PaleoEuropean
01-19-2020, 04:56 PM
I think Davidski is just mad (as always lol) that he has serious competition. I wish him the best though, Eurogenes is pretty legit it just needs to be comercialized.... global 25 is kind of flimsy and amateur looking (not marketed well) even though Davidski probably knows his DNA stuff very well........
It needs an entire website, not just some blogspot site and a paypal account

Definitely outdated in many respects. Reminds me of like the late 90's XD

Dick
01-19-2020, 05:01 PM
Is ftdna still worth uploading to? I was thinking about uploading my dad's data.

Why not. I uploaded my father’s and found he has a match from this forum. Matching is free

Lemminkäinen
01-19-2020, 05:01 PM
Is ftdna still worth uploading to? I was thinking about uploading my dad's data.

I think it is. I get my close relatives just right at FtDna. 23andme doesn't make difference between relatives. Real second and fifth cousins are just the same.

Lucas
01-19-2020, 05:13 PM
Why not. I uploaded my father’s and found he has a match from this forum. Matching is free

Among most popular surnames for your matches you have English like Smith?

Dick
01-19-2020, 05:21 PM
Among most popular surnames for your matches you have English like Smith?

Most Common Surnames:
5 Anderson 5 Williams 4 Johnson

Lemminkäinen
01-19-2020, 05:23 PM
Wow, this is new to me... Strange reaction they had.
I tell you I have in FTDNA very high (comparing to other, except my family) Scottish link too. I asked this woman by email and she she isn't aware of any Polish ancestry. I ask FTDNA about it and will see if they will remove it too:)

This happened just after they launched FF, so they probably still made tweaks. These companies make always tweaks, because autosomal dna is not a piece of cake. For example I have very looong IBDs with Latvians giving false results, but they obviously delete them in a standard process.

Lemminkäinen
01-19-2020, 05:36 PM
Most common surnames of my FF are
46 Johansson 45 Andersson 39 Eriksson. Sounds stupid.

Lemminkäinen
01-19-2020, 07:54 PM
It is now proven, can no one question the urheimat of my Uralic language :coffee: I regret to inform that Srubnayas, Scythians, Cimmerian and Sarmatians probably spoke Uralic language. At least many of them.

http://www.elisanet.fi/mauri_my/srub.png

Lemminkäinen
01-20-2020, 09:03 AM
This is fascinating. My top outlier sample is figured as Finnic Sarmatian. Even though it is in my rank 142th, this is really strange, because she/he was probably an adopted child in a Merovingian burial.


142. Finnic Sarmatian Warrior (605 AD) ..... 18.64 - NS12a - ?
Culture: MerovingianThe Alemanni were a confederation of Germanic tribes located in the Upper Rhine basin. With the defeat of the Alemanni by Clovis I of the Franks in 497 AD, Alamannia became a Duchy of the Merovingian Kingdom. Integration between the Alemanni and Franks from the 5th to 8th century AD was reflected in the changed burial practices and richly furnished graves of the ruling families (Adelsgrablege). The splendor of these graves depicted the family structure, wealth, and status of the familia and also the power of the Franks. The 7th century Alemannic burial site at Niederstotzingen in southern Germany was used from 580 to 630 AD and rerepresents the best preserved example of such an Alemannic Adelsgrablege. Discovered in 1962, 13 human skeletal remains (10 adults and 3 infants - seemingly all male), along with a varied assemblage of weapons, armor, jewelry, equestrian gear, and remains of three horses, were excavated from 12 graves. The grave goods indicated contacts with Byzantines, Lombards, and Franks.

These remains are of an exotic warrior from the East who has some Finnic and Sarmatian elements.

nittionia
01-20-2020, 11:51 AM
Is ftdna still worth uploading to? I was thinking about uploading my dad's data.

My dad's matches just finished processing and there are a ton in eastern europe, is this the place where they all test?

Lemminkäinen
01-20-2020, 12:19 PM
My dad's matches just finished processing and there are a ton in eastern europe, is this the place where they all test?

IDK. I have around 3600 non-Finnish matches, up to 60 cM, mostly from USA and Sweden, but I can't identify all. Surnames can be from Russia to Italy. The rest of all 10000 matches I can identify Finnish of partly Finnish.

nittionia
01-20-2020, 12:32 PM
IDK. I have around 3600 non-Finnish matches, up to 60 cM, mostly from USA and Sweden, but I can't identify all. Surnames can be from Russia to Italy. The rest of all 10000 matches I can identify Finnish of partly Finnish.

My parents and I have pages of Finnish matches on ftdna, much more than 23andme or ancestry :D

Lucas
01-20-2020, 12:38 PM
My dad's matches just finished processing and there are a ton in eastern europe, is this the place where they all test?

In Poland FTDNa is most popular. 23&me is nearly non-existent. Ancestry too.
MH is quite popular, LivingDNA on third place I think.

Dick
01-22-2020, 12:33 AM
My parents and I have pages of Finnish matches on ftdna, much more than 23andme or ancestry :D

Ftdna is more popular in Finland

Rędwald
01-22-2020, 04:01 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/d324ZyfJ/111.png

Ancient Populations


Saxon + Frank (4.336)
Saxon (4.393)
Viking Danish + Frank (4.5)
Viking Danish + Saxon (4.568)
Visigoth + Saxon (4.601)
Viking Danish + Visigoth (4.612)
Viking Danish (5.984)
Frank (6.819)
Visigoth (7.729)
Vandal (8.684)

Rędwald
01-22-2020, 07:57 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/8zTDCPQh/Capture.png

I got a medal :thumb001:

**JC**
01-26-2020, 04:47 AM
Celts! Finally!

Your closest Ancient populations...

Visigoth + Saxon (3.073)
Viking Danish + Frank (3.099)
Saxon + Frank (3.367)
Viking Danish + Visigoth (3.392)
Saxon (3.555)
Viking Danish + Saxon (3.626)
Viking Danish (5.199)
Frank (5.83)
Visigoth (7.0)
Celt (8.517)

Ancient Sample Breakdown:

Saxons 20.7%
Celts 17.3%
Danish Vikings 12.8%
Longobards 11.6%
Vikings (Swedish) 9.68%
Franks 9.18%
Norwegian Vikings 5.27%
Vandals 5.09%
Visigoths 3.47%
Ostrogoths 2.99%
Alemanni 1.73%

Top 10 samples updated

1. Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) ..... 3.555 - HinxtonO1 -
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) ..... 5.116 - I5471 -
Top 98% match vs all users

3. Post Viking Denmark Odense (1250 AD) ..... 5.199 - G48 -
Top 96% match vs all users

4. Viking Saxon Iceland (1104 AD) ..... 5.387 - TSK-A26 -
Top 99% match vs all users

5. Celtic-Saxon Hinxton Iron Age (67 BC) ..... 5.429 - HI1 -
Top 94% match vs all users

6. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 5.83 - SZ23 -
Top 93% match vs all users

7. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 5.912 - ALH_1 -
Top 98% match vs all users

8. Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire (205 BC) ..... 6.597 - Linton -
Top 88% match vs all users

9. Late Medieval Icelandic Murderer (1678 AD) ..... 6.63 - KOV-A2 -
Top 95% match vs all users

10. Anglo Saxon (780 AD) ..... 6.804 - Hinxton HS3 -
Top 97% match vs all users

Mortimer
01-26-2020, 04:58 AM
Im now Byzantine not Roman anymore new update

https://mytrueancestry.com/img/Byzantine.jpghttps://mytrueancestry.com/img/Scythian.jpg

Gallop
01-26-2020, 01:40 PM
New entry


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Rędwald
01-26-2020, 03:09 PM
Ancient Populations


Saxon + Frank (4.336)
Saxon (4.393)
Viking Danish + Frank (4.5)
Viking Danish + Saxon (4.568)
Visigoth + Saxon (4.601)
Viking Danish + Visigoth (4.612)
Viking Danish (5.984)
Frank (6.819)
Visigoth (7.729)
Celt (8.591)

Top 10 Samples


1. Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) ..... 4.393 - HinxtonO1 -
Top 98% match vs all users

2. Celtic-Saxon Hinxton Iron Age (67 BC) ..... 5.825 - HI1 -
Top 92% match vs all users

3. Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire (205 BC) ..... 5.866 - Linton -
Top 93% match vs all users

4. Post Viking Denmark Odense (1250 AD) ..... 5.984 - G48 -
Top 93% match vs all users

5. Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 6.129 - G24 -
Top 98% match vs all users

6. Celto-Germanic Medieval Denmark (1270 AD) ..... 6.269 - G21 -
Top 93% match vs all users

7. Late Medieval Icelandic Murderer (1678 AD) ..... 6.557 - KOV-A2 -
Top 95% match vs all users

8. Cambridgeshire Iron Age (205 BC) ..... 6.702 - 15594A -
Top 94% match vs all users

9. Viking Saxon Iceland (1104 AD) ..... 6.757 - TSK-A26 -
Top 96% match vs all users

10. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 6.819 - SZ23 -
Top 86% match vs all users

Modern Populations


1. Southwest_English (4.893)
2. Welsh (4.923)
3. Southeast_English (5.438)
4. Flemish (6.008)
5. South_Dutch (6.697)
6. Danish (7.055)
7. Irish (7.060)
8. North_Dutch (7.109)

tipirneni
01-26-2020, 03:14 PM
new entries

Ancient Japan Funadomari Jomon (610 BC) ..... - Funadomari5

Jomon entries

someonenotyou
01-26-2020, 10:04 PM
https://i.imgur.com/IUqlRk5.png

Only change here is Franks and Visigoths are added.

jalapeno
01-26-2020, 10:21 PM
I heard that it's all based on genetic distance and not admixture :(

Pater Patota
01-28-2020, 06:43 AM
Romans 17.9%
Hellenic Romans 17%
Safavid Dynasty 12.7%
Alans 10.4%
Hittites 9.72%
Canaanites&Semites 8.49%
Pontic Empire 5.73%
Ancient Greeks 5.16%
Minoans 4.67%
Byzantine Empire 4.31%
Seleucid Empire 3.79%

Somewhat, Irano-Greek.

Lemminkäinen
01-28-2020, 07:52 AM
I heard that it's all based on genetic distance and not admixture :(

Yeah, genetic distances give misleading results to mixed people, but if the distance figures admixtures, like a+b, the result can be correct. But admixture tests can give false results too. Admixture results depends on the used reference bundle. So getting things right calls always brain work. For example for me admixture tests give results between 100% Finnish to 40% Finnish + 60% German and all testers believe that their tests are scientifically perfect. All depends on methods

- using IBD's give different results than using allele distributions and again using autosomal haplotypes gives different results

- using different IBD cutoffs give different results

- additionally some commercial players fine tune results and in some cases the result can become even worse

Davystayn
01-28-2020, 09:37 AM
Hi newbie here, I am from South West England, father is Welsh + Irish, mother from Derbyshire, English north midlands:



Your closest Ancient populations...
Viking Norwegian
Viking Norwegian + Celt (5.891)
Alemanni + Longobard (5.923)
Celt + Alemanni (6.003)
Viking Norwegian + Longobard (6.412)
Alemanni + Saxon (6.72)
Viking Norwegian (6.948)
Longobard (7.442)
Celt (7.563)
Saxon (8.878)
Alemanni (8.921)


Your closest genetic modern populations...


1. Orcadian (8.043)
2. West_Norwegian (8.182)
3. Welsh (8.473)
4. Norwegian (8.493)
5. North_Dutch (8.909)
6. Danish (9.102)
7. Southwest_English (9.163)
8. West_German (9.316)


Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...


1. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) ..... 5.309 -
Top 98% match vs all users

2. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 6.547 -
Top 94% match vs all users

3. Norwegian Viking Iceland (1000 AD) ..... 6.948 -
Top 95% match vs all users

4. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 7.412 -
Top 82% match vs all users

5. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 7.442 -
Top 97% match vs all users

6. Medieval Norway Sankt Nikolai B (1448 AD) ..... 7.482 -
Top 90% match vs all users

7. Medieval Netherlands Plague II (1360 AD) ..... 7.505 - ?
Top 86% match vs all users

8. Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire (205 BC) ..... 7.557 -
Top 81% match vs all users

9. Celtic Briton (70 BC) ..... 7.563
Top 94% match vs all users

10. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) ..... 8.44 -
Top 84% match vs all users

11. North Sea Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 8.448 -
Top 92% match vs all users

12. Early Bronze Age Thames (1800 BC) ..... 8.471 -
Top 73% match vs all users

13. Cambridgeshire Iron Age (205 BC) ..... 8.495 -
Top 82% match vs all users

14. Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 8.767 -
Top 99% match vs all users

15. Nordic Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 8.827
Top 99% match vs all users

16. Anglo Saxon Oakington (470 AD) ..... 8.841 -
Top 86% match vs all users

17. Anglo Saxon (720 AD) ..... 8.878 -
Top 95% match vs all users

18. Alemanni Tribe Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 8.921 -
Top 97% match vs all users

19. Norwegian Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 8.943
Top 98% match vs all users

20. Medieval Denmark Revshale (1315 AD) ..... 9.057
Top 92% match vs all users


Fascinating stuff this!

gixajo
01-31-2020, 09:39 PM
Ancient populations mytrueancestry

Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (5.494)
Visigoth + Illyrian (6.287)
Al-Andalus + Gallo-Roman (6.463)
Visigoth + Al-Andalus (6.628)
Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (6.887)
Gallo-Roman (7.995)
Visigoth (8.182)
Etruscan (9.448)
Al-Andalus (10.69)
Illyrian (10.85)

Your closest genetic modern populations...

Info
1. Spanish_Cantabria (4.357)
2. Southwest_French (4.930)
3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (6.283)
4. Spanish_Aragon (6.486)
5. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (6.513)
6. Spanish_Valencia (7.676)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (7.774)
8. Spanish_Andalucia (8.285)

ancient population%

Gallo-Romans 18%
Iberians 14,8%
Etruscans 12,4%
Vascones 11,2%
Illiryans 9,99%
Visigoths 8,49%
Roman Hispania 7,02%
Latins 6,59%
Franks 4,44%
Al-Andalus 3,78%
Celts 3,1%

gixajo
01-31-2020, 09:41 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/qvBbfSn1/mtadist.jpg (https://postimages.org/)lincoln's repeater location (https://falloutfacts.com/top-10-fallout-weapons)

Rędwald
02-01-2020, 12:30 AM
Viking Age England Samples


Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
V2P (1002 AD)

Genetic Distance: 14.137
Sample Match! 86% closer than other users



Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
V4P (1002 AD)


Genetic Distance: 14.480
Sample Match! 83% closer than other users



Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
V5P (1002 AD)


Genetic Distance: 13.178
Sample Match! 83% closer than other users



Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
V6P (1002 AD)

Genetic Distance: 14.136
Sample Match! 86% closer than other users

Ancient Breakdown

https://i.postimg.cc/rpGGMdYG/closeness.png

Coastal Elite
02-01-2020, 12:53 AM
23andMe data

Me
https://i.imgur.com/xRADeHY.jpg

Mom
https://i.imgur.com/xTkdKAZ.jpg

Gallop
02-01-2020, 01:14 AM
Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (5.991)
Iberian + Illyrian (5.994)
Visigoth + Illyrian (6.582)
Iberian + Gallo-Roman (6.952)
Etruscan + Illyrian (7.765)
Visigoth (8.765)
Gallo-Roman (9.032)
Etruscan (10.31)
Illyrian (10.75)
Iberian (12.19)

Your closest genetic modern populations...

1. Spanish_Cantabria (6.258)
2. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (7.723)
3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (8.458)
4. Southwest_French (8.469)
5. Spanish_Aragon (8.66)
6. Spanish_Cataluna (9.217)
7. Spanish_Extremadura (9.510)
8. Spanish_Andalucia (9.892)

Gallo-Roman 17,1%
Iberian 15,6%
Vascones 11,1%
Illyrian 10,8%
Etruscan 10,6%
Visigoths 8.96%
Latins 8,24%
Franks 6.52%
Roman Hispania 5,15%
Celts 3,25%
Al Andalus 2,42%

Gaditanian
02-01-2020, 08:14 AM
Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford

Genetic Distance: 22.239
Sample Match! 35% closer than other users

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford

Genetic Distance: 25.871
Sample Match! 27% closer than other users

https://i.ibb.co/X4X4YBt/plot.png

Rocinante
02-01-2020, 08:31 AM
Gaul + Roman Hispania (3.54)
Gaul + Roman (6.009)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (7.441)
Gallo-Roman + Roman Hispania (7.821)
Roman + Illyrian (8.116)
Roman (10.52)
Illyrian (10.59)
Gaul (11.15)
Roman Hispania (11.33)
Gallo-Roman (12.52)

Romans 26.8
Roman Hispania 16.3
Illyrians 15.7
Franks 9.01
Gallo-Romans 8.57
Gauls 5.58
Visigoths 5.04
Etruscans 4.22
Thracians 3.16
Al-Andalus 2.93
Scythians 2.5

Rocinante
02-01-2020, 08:44 AM
Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford

Genetic Distance: 22.239
Sample Match! 35% closer than other users

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford

Genetic Distance: 25.871
Sample Match! 27% closer than other users

https://i.ibb.co/X4X4YBt/plot.png

Gaditano could you post distances with ancient populations and % breadown? I think you will have high Celt % because i remember your k15 and k36

J. Ketch
02-01-2020, 09:24 AM
Where the hell are they getting the St Brice Day victims from? Going to assume it's fake like many of the others.

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford

Genetic Distance: 8.8523
Sample Match! 99% closer than other users

Updated Breakdown:

Viking Icelandic + Celt (1.595)
Viking Icelandic + Saxon (2.884)
Celt + Saxon (3.389)
Viking + Celt (4.458)
Viking Danish + Celt (4.589)
Celt (5.137)
Viking Icelandic (6.265)
Viking Danish (6.844)
Viking (7.21)
Saxon (8.277)

Mother:

Viking Norwegian + Celt (2.764)
Celt + Saxon (3.43)
Celt + Longobard (3.507)
Viking Danish + Celt (3.742)
Longobard + Saxon (4.052)
Saxon (5.168)
Celt (6.443)
Viking Danish (6.464)
Viking Norwegian (6.51)
Longobard (6.825)

Father:

Viking + Celt (2.235)
Viking Danish + Saxon (2.309)
Viking Norwegian + Celt (2.325)
Viking Danish + Celt (2.708)
Celt + Saxon (3.15)
Viking (4.273)
Viking Danish (4.705)
Celt (5.757)
Viking Norwegian (7.34)
Saxon (7.447)

17571imre
02-01-2020, 09:46 AM
95044

paradox
02-01-2020, 10:10 AM
Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford V11P (1002 AD)
Genetic Distance: 28.460
Sample Match! 22% closer than other users

Father

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford V4P (1002 AD)
Genetic Distance: 23.573
Sample Match! 31% closer than other users

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford V11P (1002 AD)
Genetic Distance: 18.778
Sample Match! 66% closer than other users

RandomGuy20
02-01-2020, 11:39 AM
Me -
https://i.imgur.com/GtfYHFM.png

Dads results (mostly N. Croat & SW. German).

https://i.imgur.com/TuI6TDC.png
https://i.imgur.com/DuA9Cvs.png

Dušan
02-01-2020, 11:56 AM
Could someone explain this?

https://i.imgur.com/dAc7eWl.png

vbnetkhio
02-01-2020, 12:08 PM
Could someone explain this?

https://i.imgur.com/dAc7eWl.png

sharing snps- actually identical parts of the dna
longest snp- the longest consequtive chunk of dna you share with that sample, that's more likely to be a real match than the ones which you share many small chunks with.
genetic closeness - you have similar k15 results.

Bosniensis
02-01-2020, 12:57 PM
Could someone explain this?

https://i.imgur.com/dAc7eWl.png

ima li kakve sličnosti

https://i.imgur.com/ej9h5pR.png

Dušan
02-01-2020, 03:06 PM
sharing snps- actually identical parts of the dna
longest snp- the longest consequtive chunk of dna you share with that sample, that's more likely to be a real match than the ones which you share many small chunks with.
genetic closeness - you have similar k15 results.

Thanks for explanation.
What do you think, why do I have so many samples here, and other members not?

Gallop
02-01-2020, 04:15 PM
New results this week

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KU0O7pKhecs/XjWxiDm8pVI/AAAAAAAACnY/HRs7EMjcEnk995BL9VCVL0lrAiJv47FbACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/vikingmassacre.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mEoDb5IKrDs/XjWxnUACfII/AAAAAAAACnc/NFm-WqEZaZQNzQNfK9DJZSl4_ZUvd7Q4gCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/vikingmasacre2.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tZPzg5BU90U/XjWxqiVi0HI/AAAAAAAACng/h5gtixQR7Yk79U5O5gByDzD1cGwBHBk8QCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/vikingmasacre3.jpeg

Chaos One
02-01-2020, 04:28 PM
Lol

https://i.imgur.com/3fvg99I.png

bained
02-01-2020, 04:39 PM
:) 95056

vbnetkhio
02-01-2020, 04:45 PM
Thanks for explanation.
What do you think, why do I have so many samples here, and other members not?

you have better raw data(old ftdna?)

Coastal Elite
02-01-2020, 07:20 PM
List of associated massacres and plagues:

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford - V11P (1002 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H17
Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain
Genetic Distance: 11.578
Sample Match! 98% closer than other users

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford - V4P (1002 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H17c
Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain
Genetic Distance: 14.304
Sample Match! 85% closer than other users

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford - V8P (1002 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: U4b1
Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain
Genetic Distance: 19.935
Sample Match! 75% closer than other users

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford - V2P (1002 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H2c1
Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain
Genetic Distance: 16.770
Sample Match! 61% closer than other users

Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 13.82 - OBS116 - ?
Top 83% match vs all users

PaleoEuropean
02-01-2020, 07:30 PM
Some of my newer stuff a mix of both kits

https://i.imgur.com/dFdWMSV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vVIOapI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tjHWSbq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gvK7p2j.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rkhyGq1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ciBBm3S.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MRYh5FB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Nut2P1d.jpg

**JC**
02-01-2020, 10:16 PM
St. Brice's Day Massacre

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
V2P (1002 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: H2c1
Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain

Genetic Distance: 11.784
Sample Match! 98% closer than other users

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
V4P (1002 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: H17c
Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain

Genetic Distance: 14.303
Sample Match! 85% closer than other users

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
V5P (1002 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: H1a1
Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain

Genetic Distance: 14.369
Sample Match! 75% closer than other users

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
V6P (1002 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: H82
Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain

Genetic Distance: 13.616
Sample Match! 89% closer than other users

New Ancient matches

47. Medieval Upper Bavaria Germany (1068 AD) ..... 9.173 - Petersberg -
Top 82% match vs all users

108. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford (1002 AD) ..... 11.78 - V2P -
Top 98% match vs all users

126. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2273 BC) ..... 12.23 - UNTA85_1343 -
Top 80% match vs all users

New Outlier

108. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford (1002 AD) ..... 11.78 - V2P -
Top 98% match vs all users

Closest Ancient
Ostrogoth (4.726)
Longobard + Ostrogoth (5.831)
Viking + Ostrogoth (6.663)
Ostrogoth + Frank (7.3)
Alemanni + Ostrogoth (7.525)
Alemanni + Longobard (8.361)
Longobard (11.1)
Alemanni (11.67)
Viking (11.78)
Frank (12.34)

Closest Modern
1. Welsh (11.05)
2. Southwest_English (13.65)
3. West_German (14.32)
4. Flemish (14.87)
5. South_Dutch (15.09)
6. French (15.28)
7. Southeast_English (15.47)
8. North_Dutch (15.59)

Similar Samples
Greuthungi / Ostrogoth (310 AD) (4.726)
Germanic Mixed Tribe (505 AD) (7.543)
Germanic Tribe Crypta Balbi (500 AD) (8.3)
North Alpine Bronze Age (1790 BC) (8.483)
North Alpine Bronze Age (1815 BC) (9.808)

Haplogroups
mtDNA: H2c1
Y-DNA: ?

PT Tagus
02-02-2020, 10:31 PM
DNA Spotlight updates


Viking Age England

https://i.postimg.cc/XY73mWJk/1.png


Revolutionary France

https://i.postimg.cc/0Nzv5C76/2.png


Crusader Knights

https://i.postimg.cc/zGt51QHZ/3.png


Ancient Britain

https://i.postimg.cc/W4xvdJ75/4.png


Roman Gladiators

https://i.postimg.cc/xCHSMTxn/5.png

noricum
02-05-2020, 07:31 PM
Joining in on the Oxford Viking Bandwagon.
Weired thing is that V11P is closest to modern Hungarians, not what I would expect from a Viking sample.

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
V11P (1002 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H17
Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain
Deep Dive Match! (New sample - try later to compare to other users)
Genetic Distance: 11.282
Sample Match! 98% closer than other users

Benyzero
02-06-2020, 07:17 AM
https://i.imgur.com/DnHb08h.png

https://i.imgur.com/X8qkkM0.png

Lemminkäinen
02-06-2020, 10:14 AM
My Deep Dive Breakdown

http://www.elisanet.fi/mauri_my/kuvat/mta1.jpg

I am waiting for other Finnish results, because I asked MTA to add Bolshoy Oleni Ostrov samples and all N1c1 in Fennoscandia and Baltic region descends from Bolshoy Oleni Ostrov or its cousin clades.

Lemminkäinen
02-07-2020, 10:11 AM
Comparing me and my wife. This really makes sense, because she has true Karelian ancestry.

My results

Viking + Longobard (4.557)
Viking + Avar (5.131)
Longobard + Avar (6.685)
Viking + Scythian (8.055)
Viking + Ostrogoth (8.937)
Viking (8.967)
Longobard (12.7)
Ostrogoth (13.33)
Avar (13.98)
Scythian (14.08)

http://www.elisanet.fi/mauri_my/kuvat/me.jpg


My wife's results

Oeselian + Kievan Rus (9.422)
Viking + Scythian (9.431)
Viking + Kievan Rus (9.645)
Viking + Avar (10.68)
Oeselian + Scythian (10.94)
Viking (11.67)
Kievan Rus (12.96)
Avar (13.14)
Scythian (15.2)
Oeselian (19.4)

http://www.elisanet.fi/mauri_my/kuvat/wf.jpg

Matty74
02-08-2020, 04:11 AM
Viking + Celt (2.149)
Viking Danish + Vandal (3.46)
Celt + Saxon (3.622)
Celt + Vandal (3.737)
Viking + Saxon (3.995)
Celt (5.432)
Vandal (5.617)
Saxon (5.708)
Viking Danish (6.759)
Viking (7.302)

Matty74
02-08-2020, 04:13 AM
https://i.imgur.com/OImkQyx.png

https://i.imgur.com/U3tEOzE.png

https://i.imgur.com/iH8kIM0.png

Matty74
02-08-2020, 04:16 AM
Merovingian Noble
NS12b (605 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: X2b4
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1
Genetic Distance: 9.3657
Sample Match! 95% closer than other users

Merovingian Lord
NS9 (605 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: X2b4
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1
Genetic Distance: 9.6598
Sample Match! 98% closer than other users


Merovingian Noble
NS1 (605 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: K1a
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1
Genetic Distance: 5.7398
Sample Match! 98% closer than other users



Young Merovingian Noble
NS6 (605 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H65a
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b
Genetic Distance: 7.3890
Sample Match! 85% closer than other users


Merovingian Noble
NS3a (605 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: K1a
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1
Genetic Distance: 11.651
Sample Match! 95% closer than other users

Matty74
02-08-2020, 04:18 AM
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=h8hdue4lav&s=pcak

Matty74
02-08-2020, 04:25 AM
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)
Info

1. Celtic Mix Lombard (580 AD) ..... 4.462 - CL83 - ?
Top 99 % match vs all users

2. Early Bronze Age Thames (1800 BC) ..... 5.02 - I5377 -
Top 96 % match vs all users

3. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 5.297 - I2860 -
Top 96 % match vs all users

4. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) ..... 5.432 - I2097 -
Top 98 % match vs all users

5. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) ..... 5.435 - I5383 -
Top 99 % match vs all users

6. Medieval Upper Bavaria Germany (1068 AD) ..... 5.441 - Petersberg -
Top 99 % match vs all users

7. Lugii Tribe Iron Age Maslomecz (300 AD) ..... 5.617 - PCA100_Mas13 - ?
Top 99 % match vs all users

8. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) ..... 5.646 - I2452 -
Top 97 % match vs all users

9. Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) ..... 5.708 - HinxtonO1 -
Top 90 % match vs all users

10. Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 5.739 - NS1 -
Top 98 % match vs all users

11. Celto-Germanic Medieval Denmark (1270 AD) ..... 5.82 - G21 -
Top 96 % match vs all users

12. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 5.824 - I2859 -
Top 97 % match vs all users

13. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 5.968 - SZ15 -
Top 92 % match vs all users

14. Celtic Briton (1 AD) ..... 6.111 - Hinxton 4
Top 96 % match vs all users

15. Celt Hinxton Iron Age (45 BC) ..... 6.127 - HI2 -
Top 93 % match vs all users

16. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) ..... 6.262 - I1767 -
Top 85 % match vs all users

17. Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire (205 BC) ..... 6.463 - Linton -
Top 89 % match vs all users

18. North Alpine Bronze Age (1812 BC) ..... 6.524 - AITI_50 -
Top 98 % match vs all users

19. Bronze Age Scotland (1450 BC) ..... 6.54 - I2573 -
Top 98 % match vs all users

20. Post Viking Denmark Odense (1250 AD) ..... 6.759 - G48 -
Top 87 % match vs all users

21. Celtic-Saxon Hinxton Iron Age (67 BC) ..... 6.788 - HI1 -
Top 84 % match vs all users

22. Viking Celtic Boat Burial Iceland (925 AD) ..... 6.814 - VDP-A6 -
Top 93 % match vs all users

23. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 6.864 - 6DRIF-18 -
Top 92 % match vs all users

24. Bronze Age Amesbury (1450 BC) ..... 7.094 - I2458 -
Top 87 % match vs all users

25. Anglo Saxon (780 AD) ..... 7.242 - Hinxton HS3 -
Top 95 % match vs all users

26. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) ..... 7.253 - Unknown
Top 91 % match vs all users

27. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) ..... 7.281 - I2981 -
Top 86 % match vs all users

28. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 7.302 - SSJ-A2 -
Top 98 % match vs all users

29. Medieval Norway Sankt Nikolai B (1448 AD) ..... 7.33 - OSL9B -
Top 91 % match vs all users

30. Nordic Lombard (580 AD) ..... 7.336 - CL92 -
Top 99 % match vs all users

31. Viking Saxon Iceland (1104 AD) ..... 7.341 - TSK-A26 -
Top 93 % match vs all users

32. Middle Bronze Age England (1575 BC) ..... 7.369 - I7573 -
Top 97 % match vs all users

33. Young Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 7.389 - NS6 -
Top 85 % match vs all users

34. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) ..... 7.498 - I3875 -
Top 90 % match vs all users

35. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 7.624 - SZ12 -
Top 92 % match vs all users

36. Nordic Lombard (580 AD) ..... 7.653 - CL146 -
Top 96 % match vs all users

37. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 7.677 - SZ14 -
Top 95 % match vs all users

38. Philip Calvert Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) ..... 7.69 - 2099 -
Top 98 % match vs all users

39. Food Vessel Scotland (1900 BC) ..... 7.723 - I5515 -
Top 96 % match vs all users

40. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 7.729 - KNS-A1 -
Top 97 % match vs all users

41. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) ..... 7.749 - I2568 -
Top 85 % match vs all users

42. Bronze Age Scotland (1450 BC) ..... 7.886 - I2653 -
Top 90 % match vs all users

43. Saxon Germanic Empuries (275 BC) ..... 7.932 - I8206 -
Top 98 % match vs all users

44. Alemannic Saxon Bavaria (485 AD) ..... 7.98 - AED_249 -
Top 96 % match vs all users

45. Medieval Denmark Revshale (1315 AD) ..... 8.031 - G154
Top 95 % match vs all users

46. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 8.042 - 6DRIF-23 -
Top 95 % match vs all users

47. Alemannic Frankish Bavaria (465 AD) ..... 8.052 - NW_255
Top 97 % match vs all users

48. Nordic Lombard (580 AD) ..... 8.06 - CL84 -
Top 94 % match vs all users

49. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.087 - ORE-A1 -
Top 86 % match vs all users

50. High Status Male Haunstetten (1946 BC) ..... 8.103 - POST_6 -
Top 85 % match vs all users

51. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) ..... 8.115 - Rathlin2 -
Top 96 % match vs all users

52. Norwegian Viking Iceland (1000 AD) ..... 8.134 - STT-A2 -
Top 90 % match vs all users

53. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.141 - SZ4 -
Top 96 % match vs all users

54. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (990 AD) ..... 8.149 - 97029 -
Top 97 % match vs all users

55. Post Viking Denmark Tirup (1200 AD) ..... 8.265 - G300 -
Top 85 % match vs all users

56. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) ..... 8.268 - Shohola -
Top 85 % match vs all users

57. Late Medieval Icelandic Murderer (1678 AD) ..... 8.333 - KOV-A2 -
Top 84 % match vs all users

58. Cambridgeshire Iron Age (205 BC) ..... 8.341 - 15594A -
Top 83 % match vs all users

59. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 8.342 - ALH_1 -
Top 85 % match vs all users

60. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) ..... 8.411 - I5367 -
Top 94 % match vs all users

61. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.439 - GTE-A1 -
Top 83 % match vs all users

62. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.476 - GRS-A1 -
Top 93 % match vs all users

63. Iron Age Melton England (85 BC) ..... 8.506 - M1489 -
Top 98 % match vs all users

64. Vandal Chieftain (375 AD) ..... 8.557 - DA119
Top 97 % match vs all users

65. Proto-Celtic Bronze Age Wehringen (2240 BC) ..... 8.585 - WEHR_1192SkA -
Top 93 % match vs all users

66. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 8.623 - 6DRIF-3 -
Top 89 % match vs all users

67. Early Bronze Age Hexham (1900 BC) ..... 8.634 - I2609 -
Top 96 % match vs all users

68. Early Bronze Age Northern England (1750 BC) ..... 8.688 - I6680 -
Top 85 % match vs all users

69. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.727 - Sigtuna grt035
Top 98 % match vs all users

70. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.796 - stg021 - ?
Top 88 % match vs all users

71. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.8 - 84035 -
Top 92 % match vs all users

72. Anglo Saxon Oakington (470 AD) ..... 8.802 - OakO4 -
Top 86 % match vs all users

73. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.836 - DKS-A1 -
Top 99 % match vs all users

74. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.875 - SZ7 -
Top 91 % match vs all users

75. Celtic Briton (70 BC) ..... 8.877 - Hinxton 1
Top 88 % match vs all users

76. Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 8.889 - G24 -
Top 82 % match vs all users

77. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.898 - SZ22 -
Top 96 % match vs all users

78. Medieval Netherlands Plague (1359 AD) ..... 8.946 - Ber37 - ?
Top 89 % match vs all users

79. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 8.962 - SZ23 -
Top 67 % match vs all users

80. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.977 - Sigtuna stg021 -
Top 87 % match vs all users

81. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 9.007 - ALH_10 -
Top 94 % match vs all users

82. Medieval Netherlands Plague II (1360 AD) ..... 9.022 - Ber45 - ?
Top 71 % match vs all users

83. Bell Beaker Cambridge (2075 BC) ..... 9.036 - I3255 -
Top 88 % match vs all users

84. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.058 - SSG-A2 -
Top 76 % match vs all users

85. Viking Denmark Revshale (1100 AD) ..... 9.065 - G43 -
Top 98 % match vs all users

86. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (990 AD) ..... 9.093 - 97002 -
Top 99 % match vs all users

87. Medieval Denmark (1270 AD) ..... 9.133 - G149 -
Top 91 % match vs all users

88. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) ..... 9.21 - Rathlin2B -
Top 96 % match vs all users

89. Viking Gaelic Child Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.338 - YGS-B2 -
Top 98 % match vs all users

90. Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 9.365 - NS12b -
Top 95 % match vs all users

91. Viking Denmark Revshale (1080 AD) ..... 9.381 - Revshale16 -
Top 81 % match vs all users

92. Danish-Celtic Medieval Denmark (1270 AD) ..... 9.407 - G730 -
Top 95 % match vs all users

93. Celtic Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 9.411 - G973 -
Top 89 % match vs all users

94. Bronze Age Dagger Koenigsbrunn (2046 BC) ..... 9.476 - OBKR_80 -
Top 78 % match vs all users

95. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 9.499 - SZ38 - ?
Top 66 % match vs all users

96. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.554 - SSG-A4 -
Top 95 % match vs all users

97. Czech Velke Prilepy (2050 BC) ..... 9.572 - Rise577 -
Top 74 % match vs all users

98. Western Scythian Hungary (550 BC) ..... 9.617 - DA194 -
Top 94 % match vs all users

99. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) ..... 9.659 - I0112 -
Top 85 % match vs all users

100. Merovingian Lord (605 AD) ..... 9.659 - NS9 -
Top 98 % match vs all users

**JC**
02-08-2020, 08:56 AM
Ancient Sample Breakdown: updated
Saxons 20.3%
Celts 16.8%
Danish Vikings 12.4%
Longobards 11.3%
Vikings (Swedish) 9.5%
Franks 8.98%
Vandals 5.47%
Norwegian Vikings 4.61%
Visigoths 3.4%
Ostrogoths 3.05%
Alemanni 1.83%
Vikings (Icelandic) 1.65%
Scythians 0.13%
Gauls 0.11%
Rugii 0.11%

New sample match
128. Holmens Church Copenhagen (1750 AD) ..... Genetic Distance 12.28 - M1T
Top 87 % match vs all users

My new deep dive match

Medieval Upper Bavaria Germany
1068 AD Petersberg
mtDNA: H31Y-DNA: Uncertain
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 65)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 12.85 cM
Largest segment=121 SNPs / 12.85 cM

Your raw DNA is 34 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 2
121 SNPs

Mothers new deep dive matches

Medieval Upper Bavaria Germany
1068 AD Petersberg
mtDNA: H31Y-DNA: Uncertain
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 65)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 11.07 cM
Largest segment=134 SNPs / 11.07 cM

Your raw DNA is 41 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 8
134 SNPs

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
1002 AD V1P
mtDNA: J1c3e1Y-DNA: Uncertain
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 4)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 6.11 cM
Largest segment=111 SNPs / 6.11 cM

Your raw DNA is 39 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 2
111 SNPs

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
1002 AD V7P
mtDNA: K2a5Y-DNA: Uncertain
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 4)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 5.66 cM
Largest segment=103 SNPs / 5.66 cM

Your raw DNA is 14 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 7
103 SNPs

Adamm
02-08-2020, 10:08 AM
https://i.imgur.com/wWCfcGE.png

https://i.imgur.com/xyeivsQ.png

https://i.imgur.com/7heutP5.png

https://i.imgur.com/gg9PACy.png

nittionia
02-08-2020, 11:47 AM
https://i.imgur.com/e8O1SAG.png

gixajo
02-08-2020, 12:11 PM
Breakdown (datos nuevos)

Gallo-Romans 16,3
Iberians 13,3
Etruscans 12,6
Vascones 10,3
Illiyrians, 9,06
Visigoths 7,7
Roman Hispania 6,36
Latins 6,05
Franks 4,03
Al-Andalus 3,43
Celts 2,81
Gauls 1,64
Thracians 1,38
Ostrogoths 1,35
Carthaginians 1,07
Romans 0,94
Thuringii 0,62
Saxons 0,3
Danish Vikings 0,2
Celtiberians 0,19

mitalit
02-08-2020, 12:34 PM
Illiyrians 16,7
Franks 14
Gallo-Romans 9,23
Visigoths 7,21
Etruscans 6,74
Roman Hispania 6,12
Celts 5,8
Vascones 5,31
Romans 4,19
Saxons 4,13
Al-Andalus 4
Gauls 3,81
Ostrogoths 2,43
Danish Vikings 2,33
Iberians 1,94
Thuringii 1,85
Latins 1,71
Thracians 1,11
Vikings (Icelandic) 0,63
Vandals 0,53

Benyzero
02-08-2020, 12:46 PM
Scythians 15,4
Franks 11,8
Celts 10
Danish Vikings 8,82
Saxons 7,11
Longobard 7,1
Gaul 6.4
Vikings 6.19
Ostrogoths 5.25
Visigoth 4.9
Avars 4.4
Gallo-Roman 2.84
Thuringi 2.63
Illirians 2.38
Kievan rus 1.59
Sarmatians 1.3
Icelandic Vikings 1.1
Romans 0.11
Vandals 0.22

Benyzero
02-08-2020, 12:48 PM
This means these populations together make up your genetics ? Or means the numbers of the samples from the populations you have match with.

Cumansky
02-08-2020, 12:48 PM
7. Avar (590 AD) ..... 12.03 - ?
Top 98 % match vs all users

After 568 AD the nomadic Avars settled in the Carpathian Basin and founded their empire, which was an important force in Central Europe until the beginning of the 9th century AD. The Avar elite was probably of Inner Asian origin; its identification with the Rourans (who ruled the region of todays Mongolia and North China in the 4th-6th centuries AD) is widely accepted in the historical research. This sample is from a well-characterised Avar elite group of burials excavated in Hungary buried with high value prestige artifacts and their skulls showed Mongoloid morphological traits.

Cumansky
02-08-2020, 12:50 PM
Get on my level "Magyars"

Gaditanian
02-08-2020, 01:10 PM
https://i.ibb.co/MsqhLb7/Barbarian-invasion.jpg

Much more new results that before, the barbarian invasion has started...

https://i.ibb.co/YfBHshg/who-would-win-one-of-the-largest-empires-ever-some-41902265.png

Benyzero
02-08-2020, 01:15 PM
Get on my level "Magyars"

Actually I didn't have Avar dislplayed until the previous update came out, but it gives about 2 number closer compared to the other one. Iam not close to avars as pure population but Avar+Germanic/Gaul is 5. pretty close.

Cumansky
02-08-2020, 01:16 PM
Actually I didn't have Avar dislplayed until the previous update came out, but it gives about 2 number closer compared to the other one. Iam not close to avars as pure population but Avar+Germanic/Gaul is 5. pretty close.

Your not Avar

Cumansky
02-08-2020, 01:19 PM
https://i.ibb.co/MsqhLb7/Barbarian-invasion.jpg

Much more new results that before, the barbarian invasion has started...

https://i.ibb.co/YfBHshg/who-would-win-one-of-the-largest-empires-ever-some-41902265.png

You know that boxer Canelo Alvarez, that lost to Gennady Golovkin. Isn't that nigga a ginger hippy? That's what I think of when I heard "Ginger Hippy"

Benyzero
02-08-2020, 01:19 PM
Your not Avar

Iam 10. close to a Danish wiking that doesnt make me one either lol, you arent one aswell

Cumansky
02-08-2020, 01:23 PM
Iam 10. close to a Danish wiking that doesnt make me one either lol, you arent one aswell

Austrians niggas like you are simply not in the same bracket as me my Grandfather/Forefathers told me many times already

I'm not Avar either I don't have any paper trail to the 6th century, but I am Bulgarian and carry the family name of Bulgarians so is obvious Avars and Bulgarians mixing for a long time in their migration this is fact

Gaditanian
02-08-2020, 01:57 PM
You know that boxer Canelo Alvarez, that lost to Gennady Golovkin. Isn't that nigga a ginger hippy? That's what I think of when I heard "Ginger Hippy"

Didn't know, but glad to know, very good looking boi

Cumansky
02-08-2020, 02:13 PM
Didn't know, but glad to know, very good looking boi

95314

Gaditanian
02-08-2020, 03:20 PM
95314

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/4f/cc/424fccf2d689eb6cb4c3e8282d92512c.gif

Rędwald
02-08-2020, 03:27 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Vsqj48m6/111.png

jalapeno
02-08-2020, 06:14 PM
Is this pie chart based just on genetic distance to the samples, or on actual admixture??

https://i.imgur.com/lurhag3.jpg

RyoHazuki
02-08-2020, 06:22 PM
100% Germanic, purest Aryan noble blood bred within the swamps of Friesland and the peoples of greater Döggerland. My ancestors must be proud to know their pure white bloodline has remain unsoiled. Hail Odinn!
https://i.imgur.com/jxYpq4m_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Benyzero
02-08-2020, 06:25 PM
100% Germanic, purest Aryan noble blood bred within the swamps of Friesland and the people's of greater Döggerland. My ancestors must be proud to know their pure white bloodline has remain unsoiled. Hail Odinn!

they would not favor your roman catholicness tho lol

RyoHazuki
02-08-2020, 06:32 PM
they would not favor your roman catholicness tho lol

suffice it to say i dont think this site is very accurate at all, lol

gixajo
02-09-2020, 10:59 AM
This one remains similar:

https://i.postimg.cc/fT2xBC5v/mtafebr.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Lemminkäinen
02-09-2020, 05:01 PM
I know now how people of full Finnish ancestry living in Southwest Finland look like. Compared to me they have similar Viking ancestry, they lack of the Scythian ancestry I have and they have much more Celtic ancestry. I am also happy to get a Finnish-Saami result very soon.

Benyzero
02-09-2020, 05:05 PM
I know now how people of full Finnish ancestry living in Southwest Finland look like. Compared to me they have similar Viking ancestry, they lack of the Scythian ancestry I have and they have much more Celtic ancestry. I am also happy to get a Finnish-Saami result very soon.

Is there significant genetic difference between east and west finland ? I know you guys speak swedish as a second language, because there is close connection to them on the west. I know two guys from koupio. Also heard that names ending with "nen" are eastern. Is there any significance of that?

Dick
02-09-2020, 05:06 PM
I know now how people of full Finnish ancestry living in Southwest Finland look like. Compared to me they have similar Viking ancestry, they lack of the Scythian ancestry I have and they have much more Celtic ancestry. I am also happy to get a Finnish-Saami result very soon.
Do you match with this one:


Finnic Sarmatian Warrior (605 AD)

the label(Sarmatian) must be wrong I assume



The Alemanni were a confederation of Germanic tribes located in the Upper Rhine basin. With the defeat of the Alemanni by Clovis I of the Franks in 497 AD, Alamannia became a Duchy of the Merovingian Kingdom. Integration between the Alemanni and Franks from the 5th to 8th century AD was reflected in the changed burial practices and richly furnished graves of the ruling families (Adelsgrablege). The splendor of these graves depicted the family structure, wealth, and status of the familia and also the power of the Franks. The 7th century Alemannic burial site at Niederstotzingen in southern Germany was used from 580 to 630 AD and rerepresents the best preserved example of such an Alemannic Adelsgrablege. Discovered in 1962, 13 human skeletal remains (10 adults and 3 infants - seemingly all male), along with a varied assemblage of weapons, armor, jewelry, equestrian gear, and remains of three horses, were excavated from 12 graves. The grave goods indicated contacts with Byzantines, Lombards, and Franks.

These remains are of an exotic warrior from the East who has some Finnic and Sarmatian elements.

Lemminkäinen
02-09-2020, 06:09 PM
Do you match with this one:


Finnic Sarmatian Warrior (605 AD)

the label(Sarmatian) must be wrong I assume

Avars (2) and East European Scyths (4) are closer. Finnic Sarmatian is at position 146, distant 18.64, Scyths and Avars inside top 50.

Lemminkäinen
02-09-2020, 06:19 PM
Is there significant genetic difference between east and west finland ? I know you guys speak swedish as a second language, because there is close connection to them on the west. I know two guys from koupio. Also heard that names ending with "nen" are eastern. Is there any significance of that?

I know the difference, but now silent is golden. Look at my message:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?285335-My-true-ancestry-com&p=6489951&viewfull=1#post6489951

Impaler
02-09-2020, 06:40 PM
http://i.imgur.com/zQYs9LB.png (https://imgur.com/zQYs9LB)


http://i.imgur.com/N1B3Rip.png (https://imgur.com/N1B3Rip)

Impaler
02-09-2020, 06:40 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ZW20Xui.png (https://imgur.com/ZW20Xui)

Melki
02-09-2020, 08:30 PM
Where is all the Iberian gone?

Gaul + Saxon (3.983)
Viking Danish + Gaul (4.662)
Gaul + Frank (5.884)
Viking Danish + Frank (6.062)
Visigoth + Frank (6.206)
Frank (7.651)
Visigoth (8.633)
Gaul (10.18)
Saxon (10.59)
Viking Danish (11.49)

CommonSense
02-11-2020, 04:27 PM
Uploaded my mom's kit:

https://i.imgur.com/j2QmFbS.png

https://i.imgur.com/fGyyDEM.png

https://i.imgur.com/9syximi.png

https://i.imgur.com/WAlqjcc.png

https://i.imgur.com/shepjPD.png

Gallop
02-12-2020, 11:11 PM
Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (5.991)
Iberian + Illyrian (5.994)
Visigoth + Illyrian (6.582)
Iberian + Gallo-Roman (6.952)
Etruscan + Illyrian (7.765)
Visigoth (8.765)
Gallo-Roman (9.032)
Etruscan (10.31)
Illyrian (10.75)
Iberian (12.19)

Coastal Elite
02-12-2020, 11:18 PM
Has anyone see Thuringii, Proto-Hungarians, Oeselians, or Rugii as anyone's top population? These seem like the oddball ones.

Impaler
02-12-2020, 11:21 PM
https://i.ibb.co/6WbkZBY/Minoan.png (https://ibb.co/HHYj2d7)
https://i.ibb.co/HGZrCtt/Imperial.png (https://ibb.co/1Rc9Mrr)
https://i.ibb.co/KDtHRB5/Piedmont.png (https://ibb.co/ZSQCtvf)
https://i.ibb.co/y6qt9Cg/Roman.png (https://ibb.co/rxHYjh5)
https://i.ibb.co/zQbzwK2/Tivoli.png (https://ibb.co/S50zpqm)

Impaler
02-12-2020, 11:26 PM
https://i.ibb.co/LpH9KwD/mhghg.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Lucas
02-12-2020, 11:27 PM
Has anyone see Thuringii, Proto-Hungarians, Oeselians, or Rugii as anyone's top population? These seem like the oddball ones.

Lol MTA is able to differentiate Rugii genome? On what basis. Is there any skeleton tested, described by archeologists as Rugii warrior? Please tell me which one:)

Also Thuringii:)

Coastal Elite
02-12-2020, 11:34 PM
Lol MTA is able to differentiate Rugii genome? On what basis. Is there any skeleton tested, described by archeologists as Rugii warrior? Please tell me which one:)

Also Thuringii:)

You tell me. All I know is these are civilizations TrueAncestryDNA claims to document but I have yet to see anyone get these as top results.

Lucas
02-12-2020, 11:36 PM
You tell me. All I know is these are civilizations TrueAncestryDNA claims to document but I have yet to see anyone get these as top results.

It was general question, not for you of course. I just saw in your comment they added Rugii now so I had to quote it. But they should add some link to paper (I know it is impossible) if they assign such population for users as based on real genomes.

What else? Scirii, Bastarnae, Herulii? It's not even funny.

Coastal Elite
02-12-2020, 11:40 PM
It was general question, not for you of course. I just saw in your comment they added Rugii now so I had to quote it.

What else? Scirii, Bastarnae, Herulii?

It's probably made up. My Irish mom got Danish Viking as a top population...lol. I want to know how they can tell the difference between a Vandal, a Danish Viking, a Norwegian Viking, Icelandic Vikings, and regular vikings.

Lucas
02-12-2020, 11:44 PM
It's probably made up. My Irish mom got Danish Viking as a top population...lol. I want to know how they can tell the difference between a Vandal, a Danish Viking, a Norwegian Viking, Icelandic Vikings, and regular vikings.

I't magic apaprently:)
But I guess all their Franks, Thuringii, Rugii are offshot of Baiuvar and Szolad samples. You know I made for fun PCA with modern clusters for those samples some time ago and yes, some cluster with NE French so they are Franks for MTA, some with central Germans so they are probably MTA's Thuringii... And so on... Problem is they were Baiuvars and Langobards.

The same is for those Vikings. Modern PCA (in K15) and they superimpose Sigtuna and medieval Icelandic academic vikings on modern Scandinavian clusters. No matter if it is real connection or not.

Matty74
02-13-2020, 01:07 AM
I don't pay too much attention to it. My sister and I got similar examples after she got her ancestry.com test results this past weekend. As for the Rugii, aren't they supposedly from SW Norway but migrated south as did many other Germanic tribes? My mother has much of her ancestry from that region.

gixajo
02-13-2020, 06:24 PM
It's probably made up. My Irish mom got Danish Viking as a top population...lol. I want to know how they can tell the difference between a Vandal, a Danish Viking, a Norwegian Viking, Icelandic Vikings, and regular vikings.

It“s easy, the horns they wore in their helmets had different size.:cool:

Lucas
02-13-2020, 06:57 PM
As for the Rugii, aren't they supposedly from SW Norway but migrated south as did many other Germanic tribes? My mother has much of her ancestry from that region.

Yes, but I asked from what study are Rugii samples.

So I guess judging from your mother example, they use for them those Szolad or Baiuvar samples which clustered near Norway... Very clever.

I'm waiting for creation of other Germanic tribes in such way:)

Matty74
02-14-2020, 12:01 AM
I have no idea. I’d have to read more about it.

Rędwald
02-14-2020, 09:52 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/MTySMCSS/Screenshot-20200214-191915.jpg

I have Alemanni now :cool:

Rędwald
02-15-2020, 01:18 AM
My 23andMe

Modern Populations:


1. Welsh (6.034)
2. Flemish (6.172)
3. West_German (6.734)
4. North_Dutch (7.665)
5. North_German (7.772)
6. South_Dutch (7.815)
7. German_Central (7.929)
8. Danish (8.003)

Ancient Populations


Visigoth + Saxon (4.568)
Saxon + Frank (4.848)
Viking Danish + Visigoth (5.106)
Viking Danish + Frank (5.376)
Viking Danish + Longobard (5.426)
Saxon (6.32)
Frank (6.522)
Viking Danish (7.555)
Visigoth (8.183)
Longobard (8.64)

Top Ten Ancient Samples


1. Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 5.51 - G24 -
Top 99 % match vs all users

2. Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) ..... 6.32 - HinxtonO1 -
Top 85 % match vs all users

3. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 6.378 - ALH_1 -
Top 97 % match vs all users

4. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 6.522 - SZ23 -
Top 88 % match vs all users

5. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) ..... 6.96 - Shohola -
Top 93 % match vs all users

6. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) ..... 7.287 - I5471 -
Top 89 % match vs all users

7. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) ..... 7.394 - I0112 -
Top 97 % match vs all users

8. Post Viking Denmark Odense (1250 AD) ..... 7.555 - G48 -
Top 80 % match vs all users

9. Viking Saxon Iceland (1104 AD) ..... 7.73 - TSK-A26 -
Top 91 % match vs all users

10. Anglo Saxon (780 AD) ..... 7.879 - Hinxton HS3 -
Top 92 % match vs all users

Closest Deep Dive:


Norwegian Viking Iceland
1000 AD
STT-A2
mtDNA: U4b1b1Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2c1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 93)
17 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 211.66 cM
Largest segment=252 SNPs / 29.6 cM

Your raw DNA is 63 % closer than other matching users


Viking Sweden
1100 AD
stg021
mtDNA: J1d1 ?
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 89)
3 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 41.93 cM
Largest segment=156 SNPs / 25.04 cM

Your raw DNA is 31 % closer than other matching users

Matty74
02-15-2020, 03:27 AM
My sister is finally onboard. She got her Ancestry.com results last weekend. Here are her deep dive results compared to mine:

Kit: Sibling Kit

Analysis Summary (New Deep Dive Breakdown!)
Ancient Populations
Ancient Breakdown (NEW!)
Ancient Samples
Top 10 Samples by Era
Outlier Samples
Americas Samples
Deep Dive (Updated!)
Deep Dive Breakdown (NEW!)
Modern Populations (Updated!)

Min cM Length: 1.5

Min SNP Length: 60
You have ancient relatives! (you share identified DNA segments)
Info
Bronze Age Amesbury
1450 BC
I2458
mtDNA: U5b3

You are a top 98 % match to this sample! This makes your relationship to this individual exceptional.
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 41)
5 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 23.11 cM
Largest segment=339 SNPs / 8.69 cM

Your raw DNA is 98 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 5

207 SNPs






Chr. 9

339 SNPs






Chr. 11

153 SNPs






Chr. 16

146 SNPs






Chr. 18

121 SNPs





Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
SSG-A4
mtDNA: J1b1a1b
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 95)
3 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 115.19 cM
Largest segment=228 SNPs / 55.13 cM

Your raw DNA is 17 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 1

123 SNPs






Chr. 16

211 SNPs






Chr. 20

228 SNPs





Cheddar Man Somerset England
7150 BC
Cheddar
mtDNA: U5b1Y-DNA: I2a2
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 77)
2 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 53.46 cM
Largest segment=127 SNPs / 38.87 cM

Your raw DNA is 35 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 11

127 SNPs






Chr. 16

120 SNPs





Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland
935 AD
SSG-A2
mtDNA: J1c3gY-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2c1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 99)
7 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 130.28 cM
Largest segment=382 SNPs / 23.39 cM

Your raw DNA is 32 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 2

159 SNPs






Chr. 6

382 SNPs






Chr. 8

236 SNPs






Chr. 10

116 SNPs






Chr. 11

325 SNPs






Chr. 17

220 SNPs






Chr. 20

192 SNPs





Trumpington Meadows Bronze Age
2705 BC
TRM101
mtDNA: K1a20Y-DNA: I2a2a
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 70)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 13.68 cM
Largest segment=107 SNPs / 13.68 cM

Your raw DNA is 7 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 11

107 SNPs





Trumpington Meadows Bronze Age
2705 BC
TRM102
mtDNA: K1a20Y-DNA: I2a2a
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 64)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 10.9 cM
Largest segment=129 SNPs / 10.9 cM

Your raw DNA is 27 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 5

129 SNPs





Scotland Late Bronze Age
900 BC
I2859
mtDNA: K1a2cY-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2c1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 43)
4 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 29.25 cM
Largest segment=154 SNPs / 10.66 cM

Your raw DNA is 59 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 8

150 SNPs






Chr. 11

154 SNPs






Chr. 15

153 SNPs






Chr. 17

140 SNPs





Early Bronze Age Thames
1800 BC
I5377
mtDNA: T2bY-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2c1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 42)
2 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 17.6 cM
Largest segment=146 SNPs / 9.85 cM

Your raw DNA is 49 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 8

123 SNPs






Chr. 20

146 SNPs





Early Bronze Age Northern England
1750 BC
I6680
mtDNA: H1Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2c1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 45)
2 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 12.45 cM
Largest segment=113 SNPs / 8.83 cM

Your raw DNA is 27 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

106 SNPs






Chr. 16

113 SNPs





Halstatt Celt
775 BC
DA111
mtDNA: H6a1aY-DNA: R1b
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 42)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 8.79 cM
Largest segment=126 SNPs / 8.79 cM

Your raw DNA is 57 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

126 SNPs





Viking Iceland
1270 AD
FOV-A1
mtDNA: HV17Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2c1a1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 33)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 7.86 cM
Largest segment=106 SNPs / 7.86 cM

Your raw DNA is 12 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 11

106 SNPs





Scotland Late Bronze Age
900 BC
I2860
mtDNA: H5a1Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 45)
4 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 23.27 cM
Largest segment=142 SNPs / 7.78 cM

Your raw DNA is 42 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 5

101 SNPs






Chr. 8

101 SNPs






Chr. 10

142 SNPs






Chr. 22

118 SNPs





Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
1002 AD
V4P
mtDNA: H17cY-DNA: Uncertain
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 4)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 7.31 cM
Largest segment=106 SNPs / 7.31 cM

Your raw DNA is 24 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

106 SNPs





Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy
580 AD
CL47b
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 39)
2 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 10.64 cM
Largest segment=124 SNPs / 7.3 cM

Your raw DNA is 43 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 7

109 SNPs






Chr. 8

124 SNPs





Celtic Briton Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-3
mtDNA: J1b1a1Y-DNA: R1b1a2a1a1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 29)
3 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 13.94 cM
Largest segment=166 SNPs / 6.46 cM

Your raw DNA is 76 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

166 SNPs






Chr. 6

116 SNPs






Chr. 11

140 SNPs





Bronze Age Scotland
1450 BC
I2653
mtDNA: H2a1aY-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2c1e2b3a1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 25)
2 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 8.32 cM
Largest segment=119 SNPs / 5.98 cM

Your raw DNA is 65 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 11

103 SNPs






Chr. 18

119 SNPs





High Status Male Haunstetten
1946 BC
POST_6
mtDNA: U5a1a1+16362Y-DNA: R1b1a2a1a2*
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 48)
3 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 13.92 cM
Largest segment=179 SNPs / 5.88 cM

Your raw DNA is 41 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 8

102 SNPs






Chr. 17

110 SNPs






Chr. 22

179 SNPs





Medieval Upper Bavaria Germany
1068 AD
Petersberg
mtDNA: H31Y-DNA: Uncertain
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 65)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 5.73 cM
Largest segment=171 SNPs / 5.73 cM

Your raw DNA is 54 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 16

171 SNPs





Viking Gaelic Boat Burial Iceland
925 AD
VDP-A7
mtDNA: H4a1a1Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a1b
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 63)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 5.62 cM
Largest segment=110 SNPs / 5.62 cM

Your raw DNA is 18 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 17

110 SNPs





North Central Lombard
580 AD
CL63
mtDNA: H ?
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 19)
4 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 12.17 cM
Largest segment=131 SNPs / 4.85 cM

Your raw DNA is 87 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 1

123 SNPs






Chr. 10

103 SNPs






Chr. 20

252 SNPs







Anglo Saxon
780 AD
Hinxton HS3
mtDNA: H2a2a1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 37)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 4.46 cM
Largest segment=136 SNPs / 4.46 cM

Your raw DNA is 58 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

136 SNPs





Middle Bronze Age England
1575 BC
I7573
mtDNA: Uncertain
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 37)
2 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 7.8 cM
Largest segment=144 SNPs / 4.15 cM

Your raw DNA is 57 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 7

144 SNPs






Chr. 17

142 SNPs





Bell Beaker Augsburg
2215 BC
HUGO_168
mtDNA: H1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 12)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 3.61 cM
Largest segment=101 SNPs / 3.61 cM

Your raw DNA is 7 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 17

101 SNPs





Bronze Age Scotland
1450 BC
I2573
mtDNA: H3
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 27)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 3.02 cM
Largest segment=107 SNPs / 3.02 cM

Your raw DNA is 16 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

107 SNPs





Celtic Briton Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-23
mtDNA: H6a1b2Y-DNA: R1b1a2a1a
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 18)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 2.73 cM
Largest segment=138 SNPs / 2.73 cM

Your raw DNA is 41 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 16

138 SNPs





Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-18
mtDNA: H1bsY-DNA: R1b1a2a1a
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 24)
2 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 4.78 cM
Largest segment=160 SNPs / 2.67 cM

Your raw DNA is 54 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 7

128 SNPs






Chr. 15

160 SNPs





Celtic Briton Gladiator York
250 AD
3DRIF-16
mtDNA: H6a1aY-DNA: R1b1a2a1a1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 18)
2 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 4.15 cM
Largest segment=123 SNPs / 2.4 cM

Your raw DNA is 72 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 2

123 SNPs






Chr. 5

122 SNPs





Celtic-Saxon Hinxton
700 AD
HinxtonO2
mtDNA: K1a4
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 25)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 2.16 cM
Largest segment=158 SNPs / 2.16 cM

Your raw DNA is 79 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

158 SNPs





Celto-Germanic Medieval Denmark
1270 AD
G21
mtDNA: H2a1Y-DNA: Uncertain
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 16)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 1.83 cM
Largest segment=105 SNPs / 1.83 cM

Your raw DNA is 22 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

105 SNPs





Ireland Copper Age
1635 BC
Rathlin3B
mtDNA: J2bY-DNA: R1b1a2a1a2c
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 21)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 1.82 cM
Largest segment=155 SNPs / 1.82 cM

Your raw DNA is 45 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

155 SNPs

Matty74
02-15-2020, 03:28 AM
My kit:


Analysis Summary (New Deep Dive Breakdown!)
Ancient Populations
Ancient Breakdown (NEW!)
Ancient Samples
Top 10 Samples by Era
Outlier Samples
Americas Samples
Deep Dive (Updated!)
Deep Dive Breakdown (NEW!)
Modern Populations (Updated!)

Min cM Length: 1.5

Min SNP Length: 60
You have ancient relatives! (you share identified DNA segments)
Info
Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland
935 AD
SSG-A2
mtDNA: J1c3gY-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2c1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 99)
8 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 153.71 cM
Largest segment=383 SNPs / 40.78 cM

Your raw DNA is 36 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 2

130 SNPs






Chr. 5

151 SNPs






Chr. 6

383 SNPs






Chr. 15

533 SNPs








Chr. 16

115 SNPs






Chr. 17

178 SNPs






Chr. 20

186 SNPs





Viking Sweden
1100 AD
stg021
mtDNA: J1d1 ?
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 89)
4 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 45.65 cM
Largest segment=170 SNPs / 17.01 cM

Your raw DNA is 53 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 2

138 SNPs






Chr. 5

101 SNPs






Chr. 19

170 SNPs






Chr. 22

165 SNPs





Saxon Oakington
495 AD
OakO1
mtDNA: U5a2a1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 63)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 13.53 cM
Largest segment=141 SNPs / 13.53 cM

Your raw DNA is 48 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 11

141 SNPs





Early Bronze Age Thames
1800 BC
I5377
mtDNA: T2bY-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2c1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 42)
3 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 18.86 cM
Largest segment=170 SNPs / 9.85 cM

Your raw DNA is 75 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

125 SNPs






Chr. 15

170 SNPs






Chr. 20

140 SNPs





Anglo Saxon
780 AD
NO3423
mtDNA: H1aY-DNA: I1-S107
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 54)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 9.09 cM
Largest segment=108 SNPs / 9.09 cM

Your raw DNA is 10 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 11

108 SNPs





Early Bronze Age Northern England
1750 BC
I6680
mtDNA: H1Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2c1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 45)
2 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 12.98 cM
Largest segment=171 SNPs / 8.83 cM

Your raw DNA is 41 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

104 SNPs






Chr. 17

171 SNPs





Halstatt Celt
775 BC
DA111
mtDNA: H6a1aY-DNA: R1b
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 42)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 8.79 cM
Largest segment=124 SNPs / 8.79 cM

Your raw DNA is 56 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

124 SNPs





Bronze Age Amesbury
1450 BC
I2458
mtDNA: U5b3
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 41)
3 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 15.97 cM
Largest segment=327 SNPs / 8.69 cM

Your raw DNA is 85 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 9

327 SNPs






Chr. 11

153 SNPs






Chr. 18

115 SNPs





Nordic Lombard
580 AD
CL92
mtDNA: H2c1Y-DNA: R1b
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 36)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 7.84 cM
Largest segment=101 SNPs / 7.84 cM

Your raw DNA is 2 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 2

101 SNPs





Scotland Late Bronze Age
900 BC
I2859
mtDNA: K1a2cY-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2c1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 43)
4 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 19.18 cM
Largest segment=171 SNPs / 7.47 cM

Your raw DNA is 49 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

110 SNPs






Chr. 11

117 SNPs






Chr. 17

284 SNPs







Trumpington Meadows Bronze Age
2705 BC
TRM102
mtDNA: K1a20Y-DNA: I2a2a
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 64)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 5.32 cM
Largest segment=192 SNPs / 5.32 cM

Your raw DNA is 42 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 14

192 SNPs





Ireland Copper Age
1880 BC
Rathlin2B
mtDNA: U5b2a2aY-DNA: R1b1a2a1a2c1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 35)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 4.82 cM
Largest segment=201 SNPs / 4.82 cM

Your raw DNA is 49 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 15

201 SNPs





Food Vessel Scotland
1900 BC
I5515
mtDNA: H3Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2c
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 7)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 4.75 cM
Largest segment=136 SNPs / 4.75 cM

Your raw DNA is 69 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 2

136 SNPs





Czech Velke Prilepy
2050 BC
Rise577
mtDNA: T2b
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 42)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 4.46 cM
Largest segment=105 SNPs / 4.46 cM

Your raw DNA is 9 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 8

105 SNPs





Bell Beaker Germany
2500 BC
I0112
mtDNA: H13a1a2Y-DNA: Uncertain
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 43)
4 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 15.91 cM
Largest segment=127 SNPs / 4.35 cM

Your raw DNA is 32 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 1

104 SNPs






Chr. 10

120 SNPs






Chr. 13

120 SNPs






Chr. 19

127 SNPs





Scotland Late Bronze Age
900 BC
I2860
mtDNA: H5a1Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 45)
4 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 16.54 cM
Largest segment=183 SNPs / 4.27 cM

Your raw DNA is 53 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 8

130 SNPs






Chr. 14

183 SNPs






Chr. 17

114 SNPs






Chr. 22

118 SNPs





Bronze Age Scotland
1450 BC
I2573
mtDNA: H3
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 27)
3 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 9.39 cM
Largest segment=123 SNPs / 3.65 cM

Your raw DNA is 83 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 3

111 SNPs






Chr. 22

228 SNPs







Middle Bronze Age England
1575 BC
I7573
mtDNA: Uncertain
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 37)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 3.57 cM
Largest segment=105 SNPs / 3.57 cM

Your raw DNA is 5 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 15

105 SNPs





Boscombe Bowmen Amesbury
2300 BC
I2416-BB
mtDNA: K1b1a1Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 5)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 3.28 cM
Largest segment=182 SNPs / 3.28 cM

Your raw DNA is 70 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

182 SNPs





St Marys Coffin Maryland
1683 AD
I2097
mtDNA: HV0Y-DNA: R-S10067
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 30)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 2.99 cM
Largest segment=412 SNPs / 2.99 cM

Your raw DNA is 67 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

412 SNPs





Medieval Norway Sankt Nikolai B
1448 AD
OSL9B
mtDNA: U5b2a2b
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 33)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 2.65 cM
Largest segment=117 SNPs / 2.65 cM

Your raw DNA is 38 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 22

117 SNPs





Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-18
mtDNA: H1bsY-DNA: R1b1a2a1a
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 24)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 2.57 cM
Largest segment=828 SNPs / 2.57 cM

Your raw DNA is 88 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

828 SNPs





Saxon Settler Viking Iceland
935 AD
GRS-A1
mtDNA: K1a1b1bY-DNA: R1a1a1b1a3b
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 24)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 2.46 cM
Largest segment=104 SNPs / 2.46 cM

Your raw DNA is 11 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 4

104 SNPs





Celtic Mix Lombard
580 AD
CL83
mtDNA: H1b1d ?
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 15)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 2.4 cM
Largest segment=120 SNPs / 2.4 cM

Your raw DNA is 30 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 22

120 SNPs





Bronze Age Scotland
1450 BC
I2653
mtDNA: H2a1aY-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2c1e2b3a1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 25)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 2.34 cM
Largest segment=120 SNPs / 2.34 cM

Your raw DNA is 36 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 18

120 SNPs





Nordic Lombard
580 AD
CL84
mtDNA: H49a2Y-DNA: R1b
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 18)
2 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 3.84 cM
Largest segment=120 SNPs / 1.93 cM

Your raw DNA is 52 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 16

120 SNPs






Chr. 20

119 SNPs





Philip Calvert Coffin Maryland
1683 AD
2099
mtDNA: T2bY-DNA: R-S10067
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 14)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 1.87 cM
Largest segment=109 SNPs / 1.87 cM

Your raw DNA is 36 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 6

109 SNPs





Ireland Copper Age
1635 BC
Rathlin3B
mtDNA: J2bY-DNA: R1b1a2a1a2c
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 21)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 1.75 cM
Largest segment=111 SNPs / 1.75 cM

Your raw DNA is 19 % closer than other matching users


Chr. 5

111 SNPs

Matty74
02-15-2020, 03:31 AM
Me:

https://i.imgur.com/KDxjVWB.png


Sister:

https://i.imgur.com/fR47JqC.png

Coastal Elite
02-15-2020, 03:47 AM
Me

https://i.imgur.com/GCNqGgB.jpg

Sister

https://i.imgur.com/kMfePZb.jpg

Mom

https://i.imgur.com/PI08stn.jpg

Cumansky
02-15-2020, 06:41 AM
Lol, who will pay for MyTrueAncestry

Coastal Elite
02-15-2020, 06:56 AM
Lol, who will pay for MyTrueAncestry

Freemasons paid for mine

Rędwald
02-16-2020, 03:33 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/k4h0kKrk/wehr-1192-Sl-A.png

https://i.postimg.cc/FRRtWG6y/I0112.png

https://i.postimg.cc/Dz5kPRxf/6DRIF-18.png

Interesting matches from my 23andMe v3 chip.

Epirus DNA
02-16-2020, 03:55 PM
ME:
https://i.imgur.com/2w0UKyy.jpg


DAD:
https://i.imgur.com/RrJbbJM.jpg


MOM:
https://i.imgur.com/Frjx5xr.jpg

Lemminkäinen
02-16-2020, 03:57 PM
Has anyone see Thuringii, Proto-Hungarians, Oeselians, or Rugii as anyone's top population? These seem like the oddball ones.

Oeselians is on my top list with Vikings, some Germanic tribes, followed by Avars and Scyths.

Lemminkäinen
02-16-2020, 04:11 PM
Me

https://i.imgur.com/GCNqGgB.jpg

Sister

https://i.imgur.com/kMfePZb.jpg

Mom

https://i.imgur.com/PI08stn.jpg

It is coincidence between those North European groups, because their results are based on randomly survived IBD-segmens and distandes between ancient samples of low quality. Particularly, if your family is of mixed North European ancestry, your family will get imprecise results.

Matty74
02-16-2020, 04:38 PM
I agree, especially for Americans. Even though I'm in a relatively homogenous part of the USA, I'm a mix of northern european populations. Mostly Danish, northern German and Norwegian.

Coastal Elite
02-16-2020, 04:55 PM
It is coincidence between those North European groups, because their results are based on randomly survived IBD-segmens and distandes between ancient samples of low quality. Particularly, if your family is of mixed North European ancestry, your family will get imprecise results.

Yeah, I consider it inaccurate for people of mixed European ancestry. Even my mom had weird results for being fully Irish. Had her closest to Danish Vikings and Danes for modern populations.

IceQueen
02-16-2020, 05:17 PM
My ancient populations:
95607

Ancient breakdown:
95608

Lemminkäinen
02-16-2020, 07:15 PM
Yeah, I consider it inaccurate for people of mixed European ancestry. Even my mom had weird results for being fully Irish. Had her closest to Danish Vikings and Danes for modern populations.

They have not proper Irish samples. Another thing is that so called Jutes, despite the fact that they are considered as a Germanic tribe, had Celtic background. We can't straightforwardly equate ancient and modern people.

asuvis
02-16-2020, 08:03 PM
Highest closeness to an ancient sample I've ever seen.

https://i.imgur.com/9V47VFG.png

Lemminkäinen
02-17-2020, 07:11 AM
Highest closeness to an ancient sample I've ever seen.

https://i.imgur.com/9V47VFG.png

This is amazing, but more meaningful would be to know two things: sample quality and your distance to it.

Gallop
02-17-2020, 02:51 PM
PCA of old kits covered with my own with an amazing similarity.


Mine
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MtDqgJ0lIPI/XkazbKUpEtI/AAAAAAAAC0c/wRpdojrDMGcw_Hvi8wo55PWdo42MolrFACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/PCAmodernM%25C3%258DAenero2019.jpeg

Kit: Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (I10853)
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5ITA-R7Edqc/XkazJFv_MgI/AAAAAAAAC0U/JodfKrjVkjo1Jh4Fm3gnf4l5DdRTDSblgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/PcaMedievalVillaMagnaR63.jpeg

High Status Male Haunstetten (POST_44)
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/--gW17uqQGqM/Xka4pY3gfHI/AAAAAAAAC0o/-X5Dq0IsXOEgWuyLM2cFJOgmdEkGo2R-QCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/PCAGironaSantjulia892.jpeg

asuvis
02-19-2020, 06:18 AM
This is amazing, but more meaningful would be to know two things: sample quality and your distance to it.

How do I do that?

**JC**
03-07-2020, 12:51 AM
DNA Spotlight
Hrafna-Flóki's Vilgeršarson's Expedition

excerpt:
located in Vatnsdalur (VDP) near Flóki's first settlement Vatnsfjöršur in the Westfjords of Iceland and date to this early settlement period. A wealthy Nordic Viking woman (VDP-A5) was buried with her boat and later six more individuals were buried alongside her. The others were typical Icelandic males being part Norse and part Gaelic. The gravesite included a silver Thor's hammer, jewelry, 30 beads, a knife and a near eastern coin dating from as early as 870 AD. The items seen here from this boat burial can be seen in the National Museum in Reykjavik. Not far to the south in Öndveršarnes the last sample shown DKS-A1 was found buried with a sword, a spearhead, a knife, shield-boss, bone-pin and fragments of iron.

My mothers result

Viking Boat Burial Iceland
VDP-A5 (925 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: H2a2a

Deep Dive Match! 9% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 11.936
Sample Match! 90% closer than other users

Viking Celtic Boat Burial Iceland
VDP-A6 (925 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: H1c3a
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1a1a1b1a3a

Genetic Distance: 7.5108
Sample Match! 90% closer than other users

Viking Gaelic Boat Burial Iceland
VDP-A7 (925 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: H4a1a1
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2a1a1b

Genetic Distance: 11.094
Sample Match! 85% closer than other users

Viking Norse Iceland
DKS-A1 (935 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: U5a1h
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1a1a1b1a3

Genetic Distance: 10.726
Sample Match! 95% closer than other users

My result

Viking Boat Burial Iceland
VDP-A5 (925 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: H2a2a

Genetic Distance: 14.311
Sample Match! 76% closer than other users

Viking Celtic Boat Burial Iceland
VDP-A6 (925 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: H1c3a
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1a1a1b1a3a

Genetic Distance: 10.220
Sample Match! 69% closer than other users

Viking Gaelic Boat Burial Iceland
VDP-A7 (925 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: H4a1a1
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2a1a1b

Genetic Distance: 12.622
Sample Match! 71% closer than other users

Viking Norse Iceland
DKS-A1 (935 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: U5a1h
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1a1a1b1a3

Genetic Distance: 13.929
Sample Match! 77% closer than other users

Thorns
03-07-2020, 01:08 AM
Viking Norwegian + Frank
Viking Norwegian + Visigoth
Longboard + Frank
Visigoth + Longobard
Longobard + Saxon
Viking Norwegian
Saxon
Frank
Longobard
Visigoth

Matty74
03-07-2020, 01:32 AM
Hrafna-Flóki's Vilgeršarson's Expedition
data slide
A Norseman from West Norway named Naddošr was en-route to the Faroe Islands and got lost accidentally landing in Iceland - seeing no signs of life and the snow falling, he named this land Snęland (snow land). Around the same period, a Swedish Viking named Garšarr Svavarsson was on his way to the Hebrides islands to claim an inheritance. He had difficulty navigating the Orkney islands and ended up drifting to Iceland. Instead of making landfall, he circumnavigated Iceland to discover this piece of land was indeed an island and spent the winter in a northern bay he called Hśsavķk (house bay). After returning to Norway stories were told of Garšarr's adventures. Hrafna-Flóki Vilgeršarson decided he would be the first Viking to head to Iceland and settle it.

Viking Boat Burial Iceland
VDP-A5 (925 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H2a2a
Y-DNA Haplogroup:
Genetic Distance: 12.644
Sample Match! 87% closer than other users

Viking Celtic Boat Burial Iceland
VDP-A6 (925 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H1c3a
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1a1a1b1a3a
Genetic Distance: 6.8148
Sample Match! 93% closer than other users

Viking Gaelic Boat Burial Iceland
VDP-A7 (925 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H4a1a1
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2a1a1b
Genetic Distance: 10.942
Sample Match! 86% closer than other users

Viking Norse Iceland
DKS-A1 (935 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: U5a1h
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1a1a1b1a3
Genetic Distance: 8.8369
Sample Match! 99% closer than other users

Matty74
03-07-2020, 01:34 AM
Viking + Celt (2.149)
Viking Danish + Vandal (3.46)
Celt + Saxon (3.622)
Celt + Vandal (3.737)
Viking + Saxon (3.995)
Celt (5.432)
Vandal (5.617)
Saxon (5.708)
Viking Danish (6.759)
Viking (7.302)

Coastal Elite
03-07-2020, 01:45 AM
Updated

Me
Gaul + Frank (3.741)
Visigoth + Frank (4.351)
Visigoth + Gaul (5.184)
Frank (5.269)
Scythian + Frank (5.887)
Thuringii + Frank (6.135)
Gaul (7.082)
Visigoth (8.484)
Thuringii (9.386)
Scythian (12.65)

Sister
Visigoth (5.75)
Visigoth + Gaul (6.132)
Visigoth + Frank (6.313)
Visigoth + Longobard (6.983)
Gaul + Longobard (7.289)
Visigoth + Thuringii (7.35)
Gaul (10.01)
Frank (10.01)
Thuringii (11.53)
Longobard (12.08)

Mom
Viking Norwegian + Celt (2.258)
Viking Norwegian + Saxon (3.303)
Celt + Saxon (3.481)
Viking Danish + Saxon (3.859)
Viking Danish + Celt (3.879)
Viking Danish (5.077)
Saxon (5.201)
Celt (6.117)
Viking Norwegian (6.497)
Vandal (6.514)

Coastal Elite
03-07-2020, 01:54 AM
My Mom

DNA Spotlight - Hrafna-Flóki's Expedition
"A Norseman from West Norway named Naddošr was en-route to the Faroe Islands and got lost accidentally landing in Iceland - seeing no signs of life and the snow falling, he named this land Snęland (snow land). Around the same period, a Swedish Viking named Garšarr Svavarsson was on his way to the Hebrides islands to claim an inheritance. He had difficulty navigating the Orkney islands and ended up drifting to Iceland. Instead of making landfall, he circumnavigated Iceland to discover this piece of land was indeed an island and spent the winter in a northern bay he called Hśsavķk (house bay). After returning to Norway stories were told of Garšarr's adventures. Hrafna-Flóki Vilgeršarson decided he would be the first Viking to head to Iceland and settle it."

Viking Boat Burial Iceland
VDP-A5 (925 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H2a2a
Y-DNA Haplogroup:
Genetic Distance: 11.502
Sample Match! 92% closer than other users

Viking Celtic Boat Burial Iceland
VDP-A6 (925 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H1c3a
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1a1a1b1a3a
Genetic Distance: 6.1393
Sample Match! 96% closer than other users

Viking Gaelic Boat Burial Iceland
VDP-A7 (925 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H4a1a1
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2a1a1b
Genetic Distance: 8.7813
Sample Match! 97% closer than other users

Viking Norse Iceland
DKS-A1 (935 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: U5a1h
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1a1a1b1a3
Genetic Distance: 9.7109
Sample Match! 97% closer than other users

Rędwald
03-08-2020, 12:08 AM
Viking Boat Burial Iceland
VDP-A5 (925 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: H2a2a
Y-DNA Haplogroup:

Genetic Distance: 14.351
Sample Match! 76% closer than other users

Viking Celtic Boat Burial Iceland
VDP-A6 (925 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: H1c3a
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1a1a1b1a3a

Genetic Distance: 10.441
Sample Match! 68% closer than other users

Viking Gaelic Boat Burial Iceland
VDP-A7 (925 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: H4a1a1
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2a1a1b

Genetic Distance: 13.201
Sample Match! 66% closer than other users

Viking Norse Iceland
DKS-A1 (935 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: U5a1h
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1a1a1b1a3

Genetic Distance: 13.782
Sample Match! 78% closer than other users

Benyzero
03-14-2020, 10:46 AM
https://i.imgur.com/iErjebL.png

paradox
03-14-2020, 01:03 PM
Jean-Paul Marat Revolutionary France
Marat (1793 AD)

Genetic Distance: 29.626
Sample Match! 21% closer than other users


My father's

Jean-Paul Marat Revolutionary France
Marat (1793 AD)

Genetic Distance: 20.204
Sample Match! 51% closer than other users

Gallop
03-14-2020, 01:23 PM
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4hOVflKK5Ts/XmzX8NKaZXI/AAAAAAAADMw/0VTlwhN6lacMokBMfjOn0uJ8YcE-8rodwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MenorcaLateBronzeI3315.JPEG

Iberos of the South of Spain inhabitants of the Balearic Islands?

42. Menorca Late Bronze Age (861 BC) ..... 13.55 - I3315
97. Mallorca Early Bronze Age (2350 BC) ..... 16.0 - I4329

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4yFja-DGkns/XmzXyPmAMgI/AAAAAAAADMs/0WJZhXJCb2MeTarFNiu5Ubv3I_hoqIQBwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/ItalyBellBeakerI2478.jpg
And this Deep Dive that I had promised in another thread and since the MTA cloud is so crazy now it has reappeared.

Gallop a safe value. Betting on sincerity and honesty, the truth above all.

Seya
03-14-2020, 02:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/HBGXDAq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1wG0jLP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/X7w79wa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xwHtg7h.jpg

joanna_38
03-14-2020, 03:48 PM
https://scontent.fath5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89140770_847541632385116_2445209247655395328_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=07e735&_nc_ohc=4oxP7C7LmjQAX_BnlDN&_nc_ht=scontent.fath5-1.fna&oh=fc74a23523e6c023fa8f96bc90b78fc9&oe=5E9180BD
https://scontent.fath5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89437196_847536139052332_8571476824016551936_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=07e735&_nc_ohc=FMq4waAG7MQAX9rDl_G&_nc_ht=scontent.fath5-1.fna&oh=76b24546aca02e4591eb16b1515f4823&oe=5E92FFEC
https://scontent.fath5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/89517711_847538919052054_5200243241177317376_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=07e735&_nc_ohc=Q-SmQrIual0AX-x3R9I&_nc_ht=scontent.fath5-1.fna&_nc_tp=7&oh=2210dfcae17c3269b755be49fdcf568d&oe=5E934EEE
https://scontent.fath5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89571440_847539155718697_3526919503004827648_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=07e735&_nc_ohc=GMcsWLiD4R0AX9Mxrfl&_nc_ht=scontent.fath5-1.fna&oh=e02638f5f207fd099e860435a663f132&oe=5E93E164
https://scontent.fath5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89602084_847539585718654_140595707189919744_n.jpg? _nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=07e735&_nc_ohc=REJ45hlZBAIAX-OJmn4&_nc_ht=scontent.fath5-1.fna&oh=2d97a8c062013219df3d19a35bcd1722&oe=5E92204A
https://scontent.fath5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89447623_847541015718511_8805841760451297280_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=07e735&_nc_ohc=qL3Jk1tEekgAX9Lhs7n&_nc_ht=scontent.fath5-1.fna&oh=b25aaab710a0a99668f74b9f4cd96005&oe=5E9159EC

MYTRUEANCESTRY RESULTS:
1. Serbian (4.608)
2. Romanian (7.686)
3. Moldavian (7.863)
4. Austrian (8.189)
5. Bosnian (8.305)
6. Croatian (8.668)
7. Hungarian (9.095)
8. Slovenian (9.802)
Your closest Ancient populations...
Scythian + Hungarian Conqueror (7.268)
Scythian + Gaul (8.136)
Scythian + Thuringii (9.09)
Scythian + Frank (9.352)
Gaul + Hungarian Conqueror (10.02)
Scythian (11.35)
Gaul (12.62)
Thuringii (14.45)
Frank (15.31)
Hungarian Conqueror (16.57)
Y-DNA Summary for R1b
R1b1a1a2 - Scythian Moldovan
R1b - Medieval Tyrolian
R1b - Medieval Tyrolian
R1b1a1a2a1a2 - Germanic Lombard
R1b1a1b1a1a1 - Hungarian Conqueror Karos III
E1b1b1a1b1a - Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona
E1b - Medieval Tyrolian
-
Roman Outlier Lombard Grave
590 AD
SZ1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 100)
16 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 288.59 cM
Largest segment=274 SNPs / 81.28 cM
Your Top 10 Archaeogenetic matches by Era...
Early Bronze Age
19. Western Pomerania Unetice (2000 BC) ..... 16.77 -
Late Bronze Age
13. Hungary Iron Age (800 BC) ..... 15.71 -
Iron Age
3. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 11.35 -
4. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 12.08 -
6. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 12.78 -
Roman Age
8. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 14.45 -
Dark Ages
1. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 6.011 -
5. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 12.62 -
7. Medieval Tyrolian (580 AD) ..... 14.19 -
9. North Central Lombard (580 AD) ..... 15.31 - ?
11. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 15.68 -
15. Roman Outlier Lombard Grave (590 AD) ..... 15.94
Medieval Age
17. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford (1002 AD) ..... 16.38 -
Your Outlier Samples...
(These are the most genetically unique among your broader matching samples)
98. Hungarian Late Conqueror Sarretudvari-Hizofold (950 AD) ..... 22.38 -
121. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 23.32 - ?
Your European Ancestral Timelapse map...

https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=hwyhggztzj&slide=1
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=hwyhggztzj&slide=2
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=hwyhggztzj&slide=3
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=hwyhggztzj&slide=4
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=hwyhggztzj&slide=5
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=hwyhggztzj
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=hwyhggztzj&slide=2
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=hwyhggztzj&slide=3
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=hwyhggztzj&slide=4
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=hwyhggztzj&slide=5
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=hwyhggztzj

Gallop
03-14-2020, 03:50 PM
I had forgotten this match

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Of0ZO-0p_qg/Xmz8Lj6CXoI/AAAAAAAADNQ/fj76qSy2CLMIwASnlJlSykokDaVzmOLGgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/JeanPaulMarat.jpeg

Apparently they say he was from a Sardinian father and a French mother and that a certain Charlotte ended her life while giving her an interview in a bathtub.

joanna_38
03-14-2020, 03:56 PM
I had forgotten this match

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Of0ZO-0p_qg/Xmz8Lj6CXoI/AAAAAAAADNQ/fj76qSy2CLMIwASnlJlSykokDaVzmOLGgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/JeanPaulMarat.jpeg

Apparently they say he was from a Sardinian father and a French mother and that a certain Charlotte ended her life while giving her an interview in a bathtub.

We have the same match?

Helen
03-14-2020, 05:40 PM
Jean-Paul Marat Revolutionary France

"Genetic Distance: 15.653
Sample Match! 87% closer than other users"

Gallop
03-14-2020, 05:42 PM
We have the same match?

I don't quite understand the question. Do you mean that you have also obtained this match?

mitalit
03-14-2020, 05:45 PM
https://i.gyazo.com/5a80442ea9e339ed7d646006c5a68136.jpg

joanna_38
03-14-2020, 05:50 PM
I don't quite understand the question. Do you mean that you have also obtained this match?

yes :P

Gallop
03-14-2020, 06:39 PM
Others of my matches that in turn have obtained Jean Paul Marat.


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-a_rDkiFySHI/Xm0jELdeqXI/AAAAAAAADNc/W0gN-QCPJhwVEgR23nGec5c6QOi779NCACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/PhilCalvert.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Az1i4HbonS0/Xm0jJw0B7oI/AAAAAAAADNg/_BiR6oZwtsAvPVNuuSdYvkTi2H6-vQ5pACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/JEANpaulI7498.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dLMf9xRwWuw/Xm0jOqHJsaI/AAAAAAAADNk/se304MPsQ_4A5SqAFSllQtESMmhCeBYMQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/JeanPaulI10853.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-X3aNxVTA7C4/Xm0jWK8oY4I/AAAAAAAADNs/0D0Tz67GwoMvulK_ZC0FEpsQggsSB9IVgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/JeanPaulPOST44.JPEG

gixajo
03-14-2020, 08:38 PM
https://i.imgur.com/OU94u4G.png

gixajo
03-14-2020, 08:40 PM
https://i.imgur.com/n2O4hzf.png

gixajo
03-14-2020, 08:47 PM
Ancient Britain

Boscombe Bowmen Amesbury

mtDNA Haplogroup: K1b1a1
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2a1a

Genetic Distance: 11.002
Sample Match! 99% closer than other users

Crusader knights

Crusader Knight French / Lebanon

mtDNA Haplogroup: U5a1g
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a

Genetic Distance: 10.305
Sample Match! 99% closer than other users

Roman Gladiators
Celtic Briton Gladiator York

mtDNA Haplogroup: H
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a2b

Genetic Distance: 19.022
Sample Match! 38% closer than other users

Viking Age England

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford

mtDNA Haplogroup: H17c
Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain

Genetic Distance: 17.787
Sample Match! 58% closer than other users

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford

mtDNA Haplogroup: U4b1
Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain

Genetic Distance: 19.619
Sample Match! 77% closer than other users

gixajo
03-14-2020, 08:58 PM
https://i.gyazo.com/5a80442ea9e339ed7d646006c5a68136.jpg

Tś ganas!

gixajo
03-14-2020, 09:00 PM
The only top match I can see without paying...

https://i.imgur.com/Dn2l9g9.png

Gallop
03-21-2020, 05:48 AM
New Results

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-38GFyUZtMaU/XnWo5By-EzI/AAAAAAAADQ0/l-fl2yH5u9wKDsLrIdoRrO-tJnczZC8QwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Lu%25C3%25ADs16.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xqKfmSKCaKw/XnWo_LzfLqI/AAAAAAAADQ4/lTwGOCbAhgA1grJgZj5qvjpS5HvBYlTmQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Singe15.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nwQzqfwcQmc/XnWpC5KruPI/AAAAAAAADQ8/UDehf6wnelgQPYRMN1xqcQtIAlOWruuxgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Singen16.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9alYyImaZ7g/XnWpGm99xvI/AAAAAAAADRA/jYqXxQmUbgoat0hz4Mw9wzlJwxnIv_JxgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Singen19.jpeg

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Helen
03-22-2020, 05:18 AM
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Gallop
03-28-2020, 03:14 PM
New

10. Late Copper Age Italy (2600 BC) ..... 10.49 - 9314_Oss
Visigoth + Iberian (9.084)
Iberian + Gallo-Roman (9.114)
Visigoth + Vascones (9.679)
Iberian + Vascones (9.813)
Iberian + Latin (9.971)
Iberian (10.6)
Vascones (11.13)
Visigoth (11.38)
Latin (12.12)
Gallo-Roman (12.58)

99. Bronze Age Singen am Hohentwiel (2000 BC) ..... 15.97 - MX256

Gallo-Roman + Latin (7.377)
Visigoth + Latin (7.847)
Latin + Etruscan (9.247)
Gallo-Roman (9.417)
Visigoth + Etruscan (10.22)
Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (10.27)
Latin (10.41)
Etruscan (11.72)
Visigoth (11.82)
Iberian (14.62)

111. Bronze Age Singen am Hohentwiel (2000 BC) ..... 16.53 - MX283

Gallo-Roman + Ostrogoth (6.004)
Etruscan + Ostrogoth (7.085)
Visigoth + Ostrogoth (7.445)
Gallo-Roman + Frank (9.604)
Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (10.13)
Gallo-Roman (10.93)
Ostrogoth (11.19)
Visigoth (12.19)
Etruscan (12.33)
Frank (14.12)

112. Bronze Age Singen am Hohentwiel (2000 BC) ..... 16.55 - MX254_2

Gallo-Roman + Ostrogoth (3.291)
Visigoth + Ostrogoth (3.962)
Etruscan + Ostrogoth (4.466)
Gallo-Roman + Frank (6.739)
Ostrogoth + Frank (7.146)
Ostrogoth (7.447)
Frank (10.98)
Gallo-Roman (11.79)
Visigoth (11.79)
Etruscan (12.71)

140. Bronze Age Singen am Hohentwiel (2000 BC) ..... 17.55 - MX258

Celt + Vascones (2.092)
Celt + Latin (3.333)
Vascones + Saxon (3.568)
Latin + Saxon (5.223)
Celt + Saxon (5.561)
Celt (8.592)
Vascones (10.1)
Saxon (11.4)
Latin (12.55)
Frank (13.97)

150. Bronze Age Singen am Hohentwiel (2000 BC) ..... 17.85 - MX252

Visigoth + Saxon (5.352)
Visigoth + Alemanni (5.695)
Visigoth + Vandal (6.172)
Vandal + Frank (7.914)
Saxon + Frank (7.999)
Frank (9.958)
Saxon (10.82)
Alemanni (11.98)
Visigoth (12.19)
Vandal (12.41)

181. Bronze Age Singen am Hohentwiel (2000 BC) ..... 19.06 - MX279

Celt + Ostrogoth (5.428)
Saxon + Ostrogoth (5.459)
Saxon + Frank (6.168)
Celt + Frank (6.328)
Saxon (6.405)
Ostrogoth + Frank (6.664)
Celt (9.486)
Ostrogoth (10.11)
Vandal (10.85)
Frank (11.92)

189. Bronze Age Singen am Hohentwiel (2000 BC) ..... 19.49 - MX286

Alemanni + Latin (2.819)
Latin + Ostrogoth (4.142)
Vandal + Latin (4.875)
Alemanni + Ostrogoth (7.152)
Latin + Frank (7.334)
Ostrogoth (7.587)
Alemanni (9.488)
Vandal (10.72)
Frank (11.69)
Latin (12.44)

bained
03-28-2020, 09:49 PM
Hungarian Late Conqueror Sarretudvari-Hizofold (950 AD) ..... 19.56 -
Top 99 % match vs all users

Hungarian Conqueror Karos III (900 AD) ..... 24.26 -
Top 73 % match vs all users

It keeps happening, first the same y-haplo, then the same mt-haplo, now autosomal...

PaleoEuropean
03-28-2020, 09:53 PM
The only top match I can see without paying...

https://i.imgur.com/Dn2l9g9.png

First R1a Spaniard I ever seen

gixajo
03-28-2020, 10:00 PM
First R1a Spaniard I ever seen

We are 1.2/1.5% of total population, about 6.5% in Cantabria.

It“s quite rare, I am searching why my paternal line has this haplogroup, many options for now are possible.

Till confinement and against coronavirus measures end I cannot make any aditional test to find out the exact subclade.I have only Morley“s prediction till now, could be wrong.

Helen
03-29-2020, 12:56 AM
Smaller circle: Illyrian, Vascones, Etruscans, Iberian, Visigoth, Latin, Ostrogoth and Carthaginian

Second circle: Illyrian, Etruscan, Thracian, Gallo-Roman, Iberian and Latin

Third circle: Etruscan, Iberian, Carthaginian, Vascones, Gallo-Roman, Illyrian, Latin and Gaul

Fourth circle: Roman Hispania, Gallo-Roman, Roman, Illyrian, Visigoth, Thuringii, Iberian, Carthaginian, Etruscan and Vascones

Last circle: Roman, Gallo-Roman, Frank, Visigoth, Illyrian, Vascones, Gaul, Roman Hispania and Iberian

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Gallop
03-29-2020, 01:42 AM
Smaller circle: Illyrian, Vascones, Etruscans, Iberian, Visigoth, Latin, Ostrogoth and Carthaginian
Second circle: Illyrian, Etruscan, Thracian, Gallo-Roman, Iberian and Latin
Third circle: Etruscan, Iberian, Carthaginian, Vascones, Gallo-Roman, Latin and Gaul
Fourth circle: Roman Hispania, Gallo-Roman, Roman, Illyrian, Visigoth, Thuringii, Iberian, Etruscan and Vascones
Last circle: Roman, Gallo-Roman, Frank, Visigoth, Illyrian, Vascones, Gaul, Roman Hispania and Iberian

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Ilirio desde el primer cķrculo hasta el śltimo si te fijas en la lķnea divisora que han puesto arriba partiendo el cķrculo.