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oszkar07
04-11-2019, 10:32 AM
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Armenian Kit = M890679
Gedmatch Genesis
Oszkar Result
Largest segment = 5.8 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 1074.6 cM (29.985 Pct)
651 shared segments found for this comparison.
303101 SNPs used for this comparison.
53.008 Pct SNPs are full identical
Turul Karom
04-11-2019, 10:45 AM
(1941) No shared DNA segments found
304395 SNPs used for this comparison.
Comparison took 0.16878 seconds.
Impaler
04-11-2019, 10:50 AM
Largest segment = 4.9 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 1072.4 cM (29.912 Pct)
662 shared segments found for this comparison.
299075 SNPs used for this comparison.
52.150 Pct SNPs are full identical
firemonkey
04-11-2019, 11:49 AM
Largest segment = 5.4 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 1154.9 cM (32.210 Pct)
733 shared segments found for this comparison.
439197 SNPs used for this comparison.
53.088 Pct SNPs are full identical
Luke35
04-11-2019, 03:37 PM
Largest segment = 5.7 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 1070.7 cM (29.859 Pct)
666 shared segments found for this comparison.
299803 SNPs used for this comparison.
52.072 Pct SNPs are full identical
Comparison took 0.243 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.039 cpu seconds.
Luke35
04-11-2019, 03:38 PM
What does this demonstrate with the thresholds set so low?
Nazarene
04-11-2019, 03:40 PM
Largest segment = 7.9 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 1064.9 cM (29.704 Pct)
639 shared segments found for this comparison.
292862 SNPs used for this comparison.
52.175 Pct SNPs are full identical
Thambi
04-11-2019, 03:55 PM
Largest segment = 6.2 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 842.8 cM (23.505 Pct)
540 shared segments found for this comparison.
299972 SNPs used for this comparison.
50.542 Pct SNPs are full identical
Turul Karom
04-11-2019, 08:41 PM
Largest segment = 5.7 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 1070.7 cM (29.859 Pct)
666 shared segments found for this comparison.
299803 SNPs used for this comparison.
52.072 Pct SNPs are full identical
Comparison took 0.243 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.039 cpu seconds.
How low have you checked it? What do you get if you leave everything as default?
Ayetooey
04-11-2019, 08:45 PM
Changing the SNP is super meaningless for these kits.
On default SNP.
"Largest segment = 4.5 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 50.3 cM (1.405 Pct)
On 50 SNP
"Largest segment = 7.1 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 1058.4 cM (29.534 Pct)"
Changing the SNP is super meaningless for these kits.
On default SNP.
"Largest segment = 4.5 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 50.3 cM (1.405 Pct)
On 50 SNP
"Largest segment = 7.1 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 1058.4 cM (29.534 Pct)"
probably. we can be related to a banana at 50 snp
Luke35
04-11-2019, 09:04 PM
How low have you checked it? What do you get if you leave everything as default?
I set it to the numbers Oszkar suggested in the OP. I'll try the default when I get home. Does anyone know the what the lowest reasonable settings are for checking relatedness?
Luke35
04-11-2019, 09:06 PM
probably. we can be related to a banana at 50 snp
I checked. I am in fact related to a banana.
Luke35
04-11-2019, 09:06 PM
probably. we can be related to a banana at 50 snp
Double
Luke35
04-11-2019, 09:49 PM
This time I left the SNP at default but reduced the minimum cM to 3:
Largest segment = 3.2 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 9.3 cM (0.260 Pct)
3 shared segments found for this comparison.
299803 SNPs used for this comparison.
52.072 Pct SNPs are full identical
Comparison took 0.340 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.035 cpu seconds.
When I left the SNP and cM at default there is no matching segments.
Ayetooey
04-11-2019, 10:00 PM
I set it to the numbers Oszkar suggested in the OP. I'll try the default when I get home. Does anyone know the what the lowest reasonable settings are for checking relatedness?
For ancient kits the best way is default SNP, but CM taken down to 1 imo.
Turul Karom
04-12-2019, 03:02 AM
For ancient kits the best way is default SNP, but CM taken down to 1 imo.
I'd like to hear why. I'm collecting opinions on this.
Aslo is this an ancient kit or a modern Armenian?
Celestia
04-12-2019, 03:17 AM
No shared DNA segments found
294554 SNPs used for this comparison.
Comparison took 0.233 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.037 cpu seconds
oszkar07
04-12-2019, 03:42 AM
(1941) No shared DNA segments found
304395 SNPs used for this comparison.
Comparison took 0.16878 seconds.
Did you do this as default search or did you try with 50/1 ?
oszkar07
04-12-2019, 03:44 AM
For ancient kits the best way is default SNP, but CM taken down to 1 imo.
I did it now with default and CM to 1 and I got these results ...
Largest segment = 3.6 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 36.7 cM (1.024 Pct)
18 shared segments found for this comparison.
303099 SNPs used for this comparison.
53.008 Pct SNPs are full identical
But without the 1cm I got this ...
No shared DNA segments found
303099 SNPs used for this comparison.
Coastal Elite
04-12-2019, 03:53 AM
I tried default and 50/1
No shared DNA segments found
296521 SNPs used for this comparison.
Comparison took 0.320 seconds
oszkar07
04-12-2019, 04:31 AM
I tried default and 50/1
No shared DNA segments found
296521 SNPs used for this comparison.
Comparison took 0.320 seconds
So does it mean something that some people get matches higher than others on the 50/1 , I even get matches on 1 but nothing on complete default. But if some people get nothing on 50 /1 then Im assuming it means something for people who get matches .
calxpal
04-12-2019, 04:37 AM
Largest segment = 6.7 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 1093.3 cM (30.492 Pct)
682 shared segments found for this comparison.
439003 SNPs used for this comparison.
52.967 Pct SNPs are full identical
With just 1 cM:
Largest segment = 3.6 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 125.7 cM (3.505 Pct)
72 shared segments found for this comparison.
439003 SNPs used for this comparison.
52.967 Pct SNPs are full identical
Egyvalaki
04-12-2019, 05:16 AM
Largest segment = 7.5 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 29.5 cM (0.823 Pct)
7 shared segments found for this comparison.
296714 SNPs used for this comparison.
53.097 Pct SNPs are full identical
Turul Karom
04-12-2019, 11:19 AM
Did you do this as default search or did you try with 50/1 ?
Default. Using the 50/1 I do get matches but I never used adjusted cM. My only logic was that the defaults are there for reason. Any other ranges you would like?
Impaler
04-12-2019, 11:25 AM
Default SNPs
Largest segment = 6.9 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 6.9 cM (0.192 Pct)
1 shared segments found for this comparison.
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Largest segment = 8.2 cM
What do I win?
Kriptc06
04-13-2019, 12:29 AM
match 50/1 settings
Largest segment = 5.7 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 1,400.7 cM
790 matching segments
305896 SNPs used for this comparison.
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