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Kaspias
04-13-2019, 06:27 PM
I prepared these charts 3 months ago but haven't shared. Apparently, i'm not going to add more for now so i decided to share them.

Source: FTDNA Y-500 owners for each country.


https://i.ibb.co/5smDb0n/Albania-Haplogroup.png
https://i.ibb.co/hRpPR33/Bulgaria-Haplogroup.png
https://i.ibb.co/chGcMhP/Greece-Haplogroup.png
https://i.ibb.co/2YrRjwj/Montenegro-Haplogroups.png
https://i.ibb.co/FYcbHRX/Serbia-Haplogroup.png
https://i.ibb.co/s2pC91t/Turkey-Haplogroup.png

xripkan
04-14-2019, 12:38 AM
Very interesting! I assume R1b is only Z2103 or there are also other subclades? What about R1a subclades?

Dimitri159
12-04-2022, 12:34 AM
These charts are BS there’s no way Greece has more I1 than J2 or E1 WTF?

Dimitri159
12-04-2022, 12:37 AM
Very interesting! I assume R1b is only Z2103 or there are also other subclades? What about R1a subclades?

This is BS Greece does not have more I1 than E1 or J2.

Eurafricanid
12-04-2022, 12:40 AM
This is BS Greece does not have more I1 than E1 or J2.

Did you see the same image as me??
https://i.ibb.co/chGcMhP/Greece-Haplogroup.png

Dimitri159
12-04-2022, 12:44 AM
Did you see the same image as me??
https://i.ibb.co/chGcMhP/Greece-Haplogroup.png

Yes and this image is BS.

Dimitri159
12-04-2022, 12:45 AM
Did you see the same image as me??
https://i.ibb.co/chGcMhP/Greece-Haplogroup.png

I highly doubt Greeks are more Balkan than Albanians as this is portrays. Greeks have at least 20% of J2 and the Pelepponese is literally 47% E1b1. According to this Albanians are more Mediterranean than Greeks, by a long shot. That doesn’t add up historically nor geographically. Greeks and Albanians are also genetically closer to each other than either of them are to other Balkan ethnicities.

The highest point of I2 is in Bosnia and Croatia but Greeks score closer to Albanians genetically, not Croats.

Kriptc06
12-04-2022, 12:48 AM
Why do you use E as a macrogroup? E is 50 THOUSAND YEARS OLD, it has a shiton of subclades. It is neanderthals were alive at this time old!

I'm however very aware you mean E1b1b (E-M35), but this one is 30 THOUSAND YEARS OLD, as well, old as shit

https://www.yfull.com/tree/E/

https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-M35/

Cybele
12-04-2022, 01:05 AM
Interesting, thanks! Noob question, but which populations is haplogrop N related to? I see there is more of it in Montenegro, however is not very typical for the Balkans, is it? Can you make a chart for Romania too in the future?

Alenka
12-04-2022, 01:35 AM
Interesting, thanks! Noob question, but which populations is haplogrop N related to? I see there is more of it in Montenegro, however is not very typical for the Balkans, is it? Can you make a chart for Romania too in the future?
It was named N after the Nganasan or the Nenets probably.
Highest frequencies:
Forest Nenets 98.8%
Tundra Nenets 97.9%,
Nganassan –94.7%,
Yakuts –94.6%,
Nenets –92.9%
Khakass 90.2%,
Siberian Tatars 89.5%.

Dimitri159
12-04-2022, 02:10 AM
These don’t add up. How does Greece only have 5% of J2 when nearly 70% of modern Greek ancestry stems from Neolithic Farmers who brought J2 to Europe? There’s no way Serbians for example, have more J2 than Greeks. There is also no way that Greeks have 0 R1a.

Cybele
12-04-2022, 02:13 AM
It was named N after the Nganasan or the Nenets probably.
Highest frequencies:
Forest Nenets 98.8%
Tundra Nenets 97.9%,
Nganassan –94.7%,
Yakuts –94.6%,
Nenets –92.9%
Khakass 90.2%,
Siberian Tatars 89.5%.
Thanks! :)