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Thambi
04-15-2019, 08:00 PM
http://185.144.156.77:3000/custom_calculators.html
You need the G25 coordinates for this.
Bmoney's calc from AG.


Share your results.

Here's mine

"fit": 3.0461,
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian": 57.5,
"AASI": 41.67,
"East_Asian": 0.83,
"Excess_West_Eurasian": 0,
"Proto_IE": 0,

"closestDistances": [
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1793: 22.03719",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I3374: 22.11780",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1784: 22.60528",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1790: 22.94286",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1782: 23.43825",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I2116: 24.07779",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1788: 24.23497",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1781: 24.54555",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I2121: 24.79100",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I6124: 25.32207",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I2085: 26.48436",
"AASI:Simulated_by_traject: 29.85148",
"Proto_IE:I0122: 34.68080",
"Proto_IE:I0433: 35.87866",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1103: 40.44280",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1098: 40.74820",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1100: 40.78902",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0708: 41.10801",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0745: 41.27894",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1102: 41.37701",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1585: 41.69340",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0746: 41.83562",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1101: 41.86968",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0736: 42.00889",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1099: 42.16067",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1097: 42.39667",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1583: 42.50811",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1580: 42.52156",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1096: 42.57326",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1581: 42.83346",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0707: 42.88466",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1579: 43.03926",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0709: 43.07009",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0744: 43.44055",
"East_Asian:HGDP00777: 47.24135",
"East_Asian:HGDP00780: 48.09939",
"East_Asian:S_Han-1: 48.21203",
"East_Asian:HGDP00783: 48.32363",
"East_Asian:HGDP00782: 48.56953",
"East_Asian:HGDP00778: 48.67786",
"East_Asian:B_Han-3: 48.75657",
"East_Asian:HGDP00779: 48.83280",
"East_Asian:HGDP00776: 48.85593",
"East_Asian:HGDP00775: 48.93881",
"East_Asian:HGDP00781: 49.35956",
"East_Asian:HGDP00774: 49.64265"
Thambi
04-16-2019, 05:17 AM
bump
Mortimer
04-16-2019, 05:18 AM
My coordinates are in my Signature "Mortimers-G25" very interesting for me as I have southasian ancestry. Will and can you run it for me? Thanks.
Thambi
04-16-2019, 05:25 AM
My coordinates are in my Signature "Mortimers-G25" very interesting for me as I have southasian ancestry. Will and can you run it for me? Thanks.

surprising you barely get any ASI. I think its mostly getting pulled into the IVC/BMAC component.

"Custom:Svetozar_scaled",
"fit": 3.4951,
"Excess_West_Eurasian": 44.17,
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian": 25,
"Proto_IE": 25,
"East_Asian": 4.17,
"AASI": 1.67,

"closestDistances": [
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I6124: 15.44000",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1793: 15.57541",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I2085: 16.70172",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1098: 17.64228",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I3374: 17.64986",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1788: 18.20578",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1784: 18.21740",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1103: 18.23632",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1782: 18.26953",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0708: 18.38365",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1790: 18.39409",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1100: 18.42564",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1102: 18.50089",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1781: 18.56294",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1585: 18.70716",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0745: 18.79970",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0736: 18.90909",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1101: 19.01520",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0746: 19.05557",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I2116: 19.06169",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1099: 19.19998",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1580: 19.49047",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1096: 19.76361",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1583: 19.85837",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1097: 20.00080",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I2121: 20.05587",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0707: 20.24821",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1579: 20.26655",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1581: 20.37331",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0744: 20.48575",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0709: 20.61302",
"Proto_IE:I0122: 23.31920",
"Proto_IE:I0433: 24.32420",
"AASI:Simulated_by_traject: 52.42971",
"East_Asian:HGDP00777: 54.59580",
"East_Asian:S_Han-1: 55.35531",
"East_Asian:HGDP00783: 55.50951",
"East_Asian:HGDP00780: 55.56301",
"East_Asian:HGDP00782: 55.72908",
"East_Asian:HGDP00778: 56.04776",
"East_Asian:HGDP00779: 56.10995",
"East_Asian:B_Han-3: 56.19179",
"East_Asian:HGDP00775: 56.40813",
"East_Asian:HGDP00776: 56.70484",
"East_Asian:HGDP00781: 56.84595",
"East_Asian:HGDP00774: 57.82319"
Mortimer
04-16-2019, 05:27 AM
^Thanks Thambi
Borealis
04-16-2019, 05:30 AM
Reppin my nigga I see:

"fit": 2.2528,
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian": 53.33,
"AASI": 39.17,
"Proto_IE": 5.83,
"East_Asian": 1.67,
"Excess_West_Eurasian": 0,

No penalty-I think the components are dissimilar enough that it can be done without penalty. And I think Im closer to 8% steppe and 42% ASI anyway.
"fit": 1.7652,
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian": 49.17,
"AASI": 41.67,
"Proto_IE": 8.33,
"East_Asian": 0.83,
"Excess_West_Eurasian": 0,

42% Jalu:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0NMhW_QA9fvF4WkyHKGc5O7vVWl_RL EuprDJsx7VNskYi4-6rPQ
Borealis
04-16-2019, 05:33 AM
surprising you barely get any ASI. I think its mostly getting pulled into the IVC/BMAC component.

"Custom:Svetozar_scaled",
"fit": 3.4951,
"Excess_West_Eurasian": 44.17,
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian": 25,
"Proto_IE": 25,
"East_Asian": 4.17,
"AASI": 1.67,

"closestDistances": [
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I6124: 15.44000",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1793: 15.57541",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I2085: 16.70172",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1098: 17.64228",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I3374: 17.64986",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1788: 18.20578",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1784: 18.21740",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1103: 18.23632",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1782: 18.26953",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0708: 18.38365",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1790: 18.39409",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1100: 18.42564",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1102: 18.50089",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I1781: 18.56294",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1585: 18.70716",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0745: 18.79970",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0736: 18.90909",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1101: 19.01520",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0746: 19.05557",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I2116: 19.06169",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1099: 19.19998",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1580: 19.49047",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1096: 19.76361",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1583: 19.85837",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1097: 20.00080",
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian:I2121: 20.05587",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0707: 20.24821",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1579: 20.26655",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I1581: 20.37331",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0744: 20.48575",
"Excess_West_Eurasian:I0709: 20.61302",
"Proto_IE:I0122: 23.31920",
"Proto_IE:I0433: 24.32420",
"AASI:Simulated_by_traject: 52.42971",
"East_Asian:HGDP00777: 54.59580",
"East_Asian:S_Han-1: 55.35531",
"East_Asian:HGDP00783: 55.50951",
"East_Asian:HGDP00780: 55.56301",
"East_Asian:HGDP00782: 55.72908",
"East_Asian:HGDP00778: 56.04776",
"East_Asian:HGDP00779: 56.10995",
"East_Asian:B_Han-3: 56.19179",
"East_Asian:HGDP00775: 56.40813",
"East_Asian:HGDP00776: 56.70484",
"East_Asian:HGDP00781: 56.84595",
"East_Asian:HGDP00774: 57.82319"

Some of it, I think, is going into east Asian category(weirdly). He is only like 16% South Asian anyway I think. Anyway use no pen its better fit:

"sample": "Custom:Svetozar_scaled",
"fit": 2.5847,
"Excess_West_Eurasian": 46.67,
"Proto_IE": 26.67,
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian": 17.5,
"AASI": 6.67,
"East_Asian": 2.5,
Mortimer
04-16-2019, 05:37 AM
Some of it, I think, is going into east Asian category(weirdly). He is only like 16% South Asian anyway I think. Anyway use no pen its better fit:

"sample": "Custom:Svetozar_scaled",
"fit": 2.5847,
"Excess_West_Eurasian": 46.67,
"Proto_IE": 26.67,
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian": 17.5,
"AASI": 6.67,
"East_Asian": 2.5,

I respectfully disagree. I think Iam 20-30% Southasian. Look at my modern matches. 70% European 30% Southasian. It makes no sense that I am only 16% southasian to me, I know what my famiy looks like it is like telling Bill Cosby he is only 16% black african.
Thambi
04-16-2019, 05:47 AM
Reppin my nigga I see:

"fit": 2.2528,
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian": 53.33,
"AASI": 39.17,
"Proto_IE": 5.83,
"East_Asian": 1.67,
"Excess_West_Eurasian": 0,

No penalty-I think the components are dissimilar enough that it can be done without penalty. And I think Im closer to 8% steppe and 42% ASI anyway.
"fit": 1.7652,
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian": 49.17,
"AASI": 41.67,
"Proto_IE": 8.33,
"East_Asian": 0.83,
"Excess_West_Eurasian": 0,

42% Jalu:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0NMhW_QA9fvF4WkyHKGc5O7vVWl_RL EuprDJsx7VNskYi4-6rPQ

LOL

yeah tried the no penalty. Looks better in terms of fit and breakdown. 44% Jalu :)

got 2.5% steppe shift with 0% east asian now.
"fit": 2.6515,
"IVC_BMAC_West_Eurasian": 53.33,
"AASI": 44.17,
"Proto_IE": 2.5,
"East_Asian": 0,
"Excess_West_Eurasian": 0,
Borealis
04-16-2019, 05:49 AM
I respectfully disagree. I think Iam 20-30% Southasian. Look at my modern matches. 70% European 30% Southasian. It makes no sense that I am only 16% southasian to me, I know what my famiy looks like it is like telling Bill Cosby he is only 16% black african.

You are free to disagree however keep in mind that Romanian Romas score like this on nmonte:

"sample": "Roma:Average",
"fit": 1.3954,
"Serbian": 38.33,
"Assyrian": 33.33,
"Chamar": 28.33,

Roughly one third Dalit. You are half Serbian so it makes sense you would be around 15%. Its just that ASI genes are dominant which is why Roma can look so south asian.
Mortimer
04-16-2019, 06:53 AM
You are free to disagree however keep in mind that Romanian Romas score like this on nmonte:

"sample": "Roma:Average",
"fit": 1.3954,
"Serbian": 38.33,
"Assyrian": 33.33,
"Chamar": 28.33,

Roughly one third Dalit. You are half Serbian so it makes sense you would be around 15%. Its just that ASI genes are dominant which is why Roma can look so south asian.

They would be probably more if you model them with another southasian population. I believe roma are 50-60% southasian, well some are less though.
Mortimer
04-16-2019, 07:03 AM
You are free to disagree however keep in mind that Romanian Romas score like this on nmonte:

"sample": "Roma:Average",
"fit": 1.3954,
"Serbian": 38.33,
"Assyrian": 33.33,
"Chamar": 28.33,

Roughly one third Dalit. You are half Serbian so it makes sense you would be around 15%. Its just that ASI genes are dominant which is why Roma can look so south asian.

ASI genes are not more dominant then black genes are or aboriginal australian genes and someone with that amount wouldnt look straight up aboriginal or black. 23andme did a study that people roughly 30% black and less tend to identify as white. Im sure it is wrong. Gypsies look like straight out of india. And even if the original gypsies have been the blackest darkest southasians they still would be 50-60% because they are almost as black as that. They cant be that few. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjju97_hdThAhXODOwKHRnHB3wQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcollections.museumvictoria.com.a u%2Fitems%2F1496210&psig=AOvVaw3_eapHH0SHct7kiSw3U117&ust=1555484644105003
Mortimer
04-16-2019, 07:06 AM
The half blood looks alot lighter and more european then my Uncles and Mum. Let alone the quadroon. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjju97_hdThAhXODOwKHRnHB3wQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcollections.museumvictoria.com.a u%2Fitems%2F1496210&psig=AOvVaw3_eapHH0SHct7kiSw3U117&ust=1555484644105003
Borealis
04-16-2019, 07:25 AM
They would be probably more if you model them with another southasian population. I believe roma are 50-60% southasian, well some are less though.

Gypsies are descended from dalits so chamars are the best source population. There may be variation among them. Those in more rural areas might be more south asian. Even among your relatives there could be some variation.
Mortimer
04-16-2019, 07:28 AM
Gypsies are descended from dalits so chamars are the best source population. There may be variation among them. Those in more rural areas might be more south asian. Even among your relatives there could be some variation.

I dont know if that is certain that gypsies are descended from dalits. They had several populations compared to them like Kashmiri Pandit too and those are not dalits. I mean that autosomally their southasian is like Kashmiri Pandit. Also Meghwal but those are dalits. Their southasian is Northwestern Indian. I dont know if they are neccessarily dalits though. A DNA study Tracing y-DNA did say so though. Another study very recent said gypsies have alot in common with populations in Pakistan like Sindi etc. I posted that.