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gıulıoımpa
05-08-2019, 09:17 PM
Hello again, the time has come for me too. let's go.

keep in mind i am:
-half south italian (campania)
- one quarter center transitioning to south or rather south transitioning to center (Lazio)
-one quarter from northwest (piedmont) althoughit seemed my grandmother was closer to ligurians than piedmontese.


Let's talk haplogroups first.


https://i.ibb.co/vzkGxLv/ecccolo-2.jpg

it seems like i am of J2 stock of which mine is a particular subclade. Let me know if you know something about this haplo

J2------J-M172 ----J-L26

The maternal one too seems pretty in the norm as i seemed to grasp it is distributed all over europe.

composition:

https://i.ibb.co/vqyLvhk/eccolo.jpg (https://ibb.co/RbrQ4Nc)

it seems i score more italian than many italians. cool thing

...and i also have the N word pass if you look down below, haha. btw i really doubt i had " an ancestor between 1750 and 1820 who was 100% Senegambian or Guinean" as 23 and me says

edit : results gor updated no more senegambian for me.




now to Neanderthal variants.

https://i.ibb.co/gZxhB5B/eccolo-3.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

they seem low compared to other users.



talking about the use of gedmatch i am still walking in the dark i really don't know how to use it very well or what i am doing.

here some random screenshot, sorry many don't even include the oracle denomination up there
i hope they can give a comprehensive picture nonetheless.




https://i.ibb.co/cQRb0H7/Cattura-2.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

https://i.ibb.co/Ypd1mmt/eccolo-5.jpg (https://ibb.co/vZdTppJ)

j test

https://i.ibb.co/Rhx4D9P/j-test.jpg (https://ibb.co/TKVqgkR)


from this seems like there is a pull towards the east/caucasus

https://i.ibb.co/MgCLpn7/cattura-5.jpg (https://ibb.co/10mxKZT)

in single population it always seem i come very close to mainland Greeks.

this too looks Ancient greek pretty much, at least seems like it

https://i.ibb.co/PMJcpfV/Cattura-fg.jpg (https://ibb.co/w78SHx2)
https://i.ibb.co/qr7CKgR/Cattura-s.jpg (https://ibb.co/yQdptk8)

let me know whatever you think since there are many people more knowledgable than me on this.

Teutonski
05-08-2019, 09:31 PM
congrats to your results, true italian

Damiăo de Góis
05-08-2019, 09:35 PM
To use gedmatch try Eurogenes K13 and K15, those two are the best in my opinion. Then click on Oracle to see your closest populations.
Dodecad k12b is also ok, and Eurogenes EuTest.

Also you might want to consider to remove your kit id from the screenshots.

GreentheViper
05-08-2019, 09:40 PM
Interesting results dude, pretty Italian lol

Morena
05-08-2019, 09:42 PM
Congrats! A true Italian. :D

Rgvgjhvv
05-08-2019, 09:45 PM
Yeah if you could post your Eurogenes K13 and K15 oracles that would be sweet

kaltar
05-08-2019, 09:49 PM
Can you post your results on Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle-4? And your results on Eurogenes K13 Oracle-4?

TheMaestro
05-08-2019, 09:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syc78JzHGTs

gıulıoımpa
05-08-2019, 09:57 PM
Can you post your results on Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle-4? And your results on Eurogenes K13 Oracle-4?




Yeah if you could post your Eurogenes K13 and K15 oracles that would be sweet
incoming!



Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.11
2 West_Med 21.80
3 North_Atlantic 20.53
4 West_Asian 12.66
5 Baltic 9.15
6 Red_Sea 3.84


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 West_Sicilian @ 3.587744
2 Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.440066
3 Central_Greek @ 5.034242
4 East_Sicilian @ 5.115398
5 South_Italian @ 6.093432
6 Ashkenazi @ 8.577339
7 Greek_Thessaly @ 8.932351
8 Tuscan @ 9.744919
9 Italian_Jewish @ 12.286121
10 Sephardic_Jewish @ 12.504947
11 Algerian_Jewish @ 13.133003
12 North_Italian @ 17.150087
13 Tunisian_Jewish @ 17.363338
14 Libyan_Jewish @ 17.936560
15 Bulgarian @ 18.533463
16 Romanian @ 20.598269
17 Cyprian @ 21.528742
18 Serbian @ 25.160666
19 Lebanese_Muslim @ 25.236637
20 Tunisian @ 25.563900

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +50% West_Sicilian @ 2.519452


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +25% Italian_Jewish +25% North_Italian @ 1.894132


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Ashkenazi + Italian_Abruzzo + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.820252
2 Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + North_Italian @ 1.894132
3 Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + Tuscan @ 1.994686
4 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.032150
5 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Cyprian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.071874
6 Ashkenazi + North_Italian + South_Italian + South_Italian @ 2.080838
7 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + West_Sicilian @ 2.116526
8 Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Tuscan @ 2.122281
9 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + North_Italian + South_Italian @ 2.130068
10 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Cyprian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.131778
11 Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.143741
12 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + Tuscan @ 2.146883
13 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Tuscan @ 2.159620
14 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish @ 2.169216
15 Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 2.201099
16 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.207187
17 Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 2.212412
18 Ashkenazi + Cyprian + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.222682
19 Ashkenazi + Cyprian + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.254997
20 Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.259527

Done.

Elapsed time 0.6882 seconds.














Gedmatch.Com

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.76
2 North_Sea 19.04
3 West_Med 18.14
4 West_Asian 10.51
5 Atlantic 7.85
6 Baltic 6.51
7 Red_Sea 2.99
8 Eastern_Euro 1.64


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Central_Greek @ 12.992952
2 East_Sicilian @ 13.096887
3 Greek_Thessaly @ 13.141953
4 Ashkenazi @ 13.338105
5 South_Italian @ 13.566120
6 Italian_Jewish @ 14.119174
7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 14.798048
8 West_Sicilian @ 15.318481
9 Algerian_Jewish @ 16.513840
10 Libyan_Jewish @ 17.010914
11 Greek @ 17.121796
12 Tuscan @ 17.362545
13 Sephardic_Jewish @ 17.579092
14 Tunisian_Jewish @ 20.183149
15 Cyprian @ 22.078655
16 Bulgarian @ 22.828274
17 North_Italian @ 23.134779
18 Romanian @ 24.150013
19 Lebanese_Muslim @ 25.357981
20 Syrian @ 25.806568

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Thessaly +50% Libyan_Jewish @ 9.947433


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Sardinian +25% West_Norwegian @ 8.764882


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 8.764882
2 Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 8.802076
3 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Swedish @ 8.911170
4 Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Christian + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 8.994588
5 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 9.073474
6 Greek_Thessaly + Libyan_Jewish + Samaritan + West_German @ 9.208558
7 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 9.261070
8 Cyprian + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + West_Norwegian @ 9.303852
9 Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + South_Italian + West_German @ 9.319478
10 Greek_Thessaly + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 9.360364
11 Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 9.372175
12 Central_Greek + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 9.385078
13 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Swedish @ 9.416773
14 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 9.418671
15 Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 9.492063
16 Cyprian + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Norwegian @ 9.503184
17 Lebanese_Druze + Libyan_Jewish + South_Italian + West_Norwegian @ 9.508064
18 Lebanese_Christian + Libyan_Jewish + South_Italian + West_Norwegian @ 9.508166
19 Cyprian + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Swedish @ 9.511118
20 Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Christian + Libyan_Jewish + West_Norwegian @ 9.536736

Done.

Elapsed time 2.2373 seconds.

+ organigrams



since i am really not good with this i hope those were the ones. Pretty greek like heh?



+ the J test



Jtest 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Jtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 31.67
2 WEST_MED 16.81
3 ATLANTIC 11.64
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.01
5 WEST_ASIAN 9.10
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.20
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.17
8 ASHKENAZI 4.55
9 EAST_EURO 1.86


Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
14 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 GR @ 6.321928
2 South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 8.328507
3 Tuscan @ 14.247843
4 North_Italian @ 19.166016
5 RO @ 22.041517
6 TR @ 24.077679
7 Serbian @ 24.503483
8 PT @ 27.348568
9 Assyrian @ 28.348797
10 AJ @ 28.689375
11 Druze @ 29.299229
12 ES @ 29.375961
13 Samaritan @ 29.531013
14 Armenian @ 29.596951
15 IQ @ 29.644573
16 Mandean @ 30.521423
17 Kurdish @ 31.309402
18 HU @ 31.617722
19 IR @ 31.637751
20 AT @ 31.702225

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Druze +50% North_Italian @ 6.122202


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% GR +25% GR +25% Tuscan @ 5.244005


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Druze + GR + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.544908
2 Druze + GR + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 3.654326
3 Druze + FR + GR + GR @ 4.346043
4 Druze + ES + GR + GR @ 4.498130
5 Druze + GR + RO + Tuscan @ 4.589308
6 Druze + GR + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 4.694237
7 Druze + North_Italian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian + Tuscan @ 4.730712
8 Druze + GR + GR + PT @ 4.736326
9 Druze + North_Italian + North_Italian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.764301
10 Druze + RO + South_Italian_&_Sicilian + Tuscan @ 4.815320
11 Druze + GR + North_Italian + RO @ 4.852113
12 Druze + FR + GR + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.041197
13 Druze + GR + PT + Tuscan @ 5.105392
14 Druze + GR + Serbian + Tuscan @ 5.112957
15 Druze + North_Italian + RO + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.173559
16 Druze + GR + GR + North_Italian @ 5.226989
17 GR + GR + GR + Tuscan @ 5.244005
18 Druze + RO + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 5.255725
19 Druze + ES + GR + Tuscan @ 5.256226
20 Druze + ES + GR + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.309115

Done.

Elapsed time 0.0947 seconds.

gıulıoımpa
05-08-2019, 09:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syc78JzHGTs

this is the highest honor . thanks.

haha

Teutonski
05-08-2019, 09:59 PM
https://youtu.be/C532kGa7j1A

Impaler
05-08-2019, 09:59 PM
Congrats, mate!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkksaaTg9MM

kaltar
05-08-2019, 10:03 PM
since i am really not good with this i hope those were the ones. Pretty greek like heh?

You plot with Central Greece and Southern Italy.

gıulıoımpa
05-08-2019, 10:14 PM
Can you post your results on Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle-4? And your results on Eurogenes K13 Oracle-4?



https://youtu.be/C532kGa7j1A


Congrats, mate!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkksaaTg9MM


hehe, you posted the right stuff! thanks :)

barkoo
05-08-2019, 10:26 PM
You're probably J2a1 just like me, i'm not J-L26 though but only one different number.

gıulıoımpa
05-08-2019, 10:30 PM
You're probably J2a1 just like me, i'm not J-L26 though but only one different number.

i ve seen many italian flags when looking at it in the tree of people who got the clade search. might be. i don't know if ill do something to look more deeply into it though, at least for now.

alas!

Alenka
05-08-2019, 10:33 PM
Congrats Giulio!
:)

Rgvgjhvv
05-08-2019, 10:33 PM
incoming!



Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.11
2 West_Med 21.80
3 North_Atlantic 20.53
4 West_Asian 12.66
5 Baltic 9.15
6 Red_Sea 3.84


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 West_Sicilian @ 3.587744
2 Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.440066
3 Central_Greek @ 5.034242
4 East_Sicilian @ 5.115398
5 South_Italian @ 6.093432
6 Ashkenazi @ 8.577339
7 Greek_Thessaly @ 8.932351
8 Tuscan @ 9.744919
9 Italian_Jewish @ 12.286121
10 Sephardic_Jewish @ 12.504947
11 Algerian_Jewish @ 13.133003
12 North_Italian @ 17.150087
13 Tunisian_Jewish @ 17.363338
14 Libyan_Jewish @ 17.936560
15 Bulgarian @ 18.533463
16 Romanian @ 20.598269
17 Cyprian @ 21.528742
18 Serbian @ 25.160666
19 Lebanese_Muslim @ 25.236637
20 Tunisian @ 25.563900

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +50% West_Sicilian @ 2.519452


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +25% Italian_Jewish +25% North_Italian @ 1.894132


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Ashkenazi + Italian_Abruzzo + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.820252
2 Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + North_Italian @ 1.894132
3 Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + Tuscan @ 1.994686
4 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.032150
5 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Cyprian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.071874
6 Ashkenazi + North_Italian + South_Italian + South_Italian @ 2.080838
7 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + West_Sicilian @ 2.116526
8 Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Tuscan @ 2.122281
9 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + North_Italian + South_Italian @ 2.130068
10 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Cyprian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.131778
11 Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.143741
12 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + Tuscan @ 2.146883
13 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Tuscan @ 2.159620
14 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish @ 2.169216
15 Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 2.201099
16 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.207187
17 Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 2.212412
18 Ashkenazi + Cyprian + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.222682
19 Ashkenazi + Cyprian + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.254997
20 Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.259527

Done.

Elapsed time 0.6882 seconds.














Gedmatch.Com

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.76
2 North_Sea 19.04
3 West_Med 18.14
4 West_Asian 10.51
5 Atlantic 7.85
6 Baltic 6.51
7 Red_Sea 2.99
8 Eastern_Euro 1.64


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Central_Greek @ 12.992952
2 East_Sicilian @ 13.096887
3 Greek_Thessaly @ 13.141953
4 Ashkenazi @ 13.338105
5 South_Italian @ 13.566120
6 Italian_Jewish @ 14.119174
7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 14.798048
8 West_Sicilian @ 15.318481
9 Algerian_Jewish @ 16.513840
10 Libyan_Jewish @ 17.010914
11 Greek @ 17.121796
12 Tuscan @ 17.362545
13 Sephardic_Jewish @ 17.579092
14 Tunisian_Jewish @ 20.183149
15 Cyprian @ 22.078655
16 Bulgarian @ 22.828274
17 North_Italian @ 23.134779
18 Romanian @ 24.150013
19 Lebanese_Muslim @ 25.357981
20 Syrian @ 25.806568

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Thessaly +50% Libyan_Jewish @ 9.947433


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Sardinian +25% West_Norwegian @ 8.764882


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 8.764882
2 Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 8.802076
3 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Swedish @ 8.911170
4 Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Christian + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 8.994588
5 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 9.073474
6 Greek_Thessaly + Libyan_Jewish + Samaritan + West_German @ 9.208558
7 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 9.261070
8 Cyprian + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + West_Norwegian @ 9.303852
9 Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + South_Italian + West_German @ 9.319478
10 Greek_Thessaly + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 9.360364
11 Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 9.372175
12 Central_Greek + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 9.385078
13 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Swedish @ 9.416773
14 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 9.418671
15 Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 9.492063
16 Cyprian + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Norwegian @ 9.503184
17 Lebanese_Druze + Libyan_Jewish + South_Italian + West_Norwegian @ 9.508064
18 Lebanese_Christian + Libyan_Jewish + South_Italian + West_Norwegian @ 9.508166
19 Cyprian + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Swedish @ 9.511118
20 Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Christian + Libyan_Jewish + West_Norwegian @ 9.536736

Done.

Elapsed time 2.2373 seconds.

+ organigrams



since i am really not good with this i hope those were the ones. Pretty greek like heh?



+ the J test



Jtest 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Jtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 31.67
2 WEST_MED 16.81
3 ATLANTIC 11.64
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.01
5 WEST_ASIAN 9.10
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.20
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.17
8 ASHKENAZI 4.55
9 EAST_EURO 1.86


Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
14 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 GR @ 6.321928
2 South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 8.328507
3 Tuscan @ 14.247843
4 North_Italian @ 19.166016
5 RO @ 22.041517
6 TR @ 24.077679
7 Serbian @ 24.503483
8 PT @ 27.348568
9 Assyrian @ 28.348797
10 AJ @ 28.689375
11 Druze @ 29.299229
12 ES @ 29.375961
13 Samaritan @ 29.531013
14 Armenian @ 29.596951
15 IQ @ 29.644573
16 Mandean @ 30.521423
17 Kurdish @ 31.309402
18 HU @ 31.617722
19 IR @ 31.637751
20 AT @ 31.702225

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Druze +50% North_Italian @ 6.122202


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% GR +25% GR +25% Tuscan @ 5.244005


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Druze + GR + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.544908
2 Druze + GR + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 3.654326
3 Druze + FR + GR + GR @ 4.346043
4 Druze + ES + GR + GR @ 4.498130
5 Druze + GR + RO + Tuscan @ 4.589308
6 Druze + GR + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 4.694237
7 Druze + North_Italian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian + Tuscan @ 4.730712
8 Druze + GR + GR + PT @ 4.736326
9 Druze + North_Italian + North_Italian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.764301
10 Druze + RO + South_Italian_&_Sicilian + Tuscan @ 4.815320
11 Druze + GR + North_Italian + RO @ 4.852113
12 Druze + FR + GR + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.041197
13 Druze + GR + PT + Tuscan @ 5.105392
14 Druze + GR + Serbian + Tuscan @ 5.112957
15 Druze + North_Italian + RO + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.173559
16 Druze + GR + GR + North_Italian @ 5.226989
17 GR + GR + GR + Tuscan @ 5.244005
18 Druze + RO + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 5.255725
19 Druze + ES + GR + Tuscan @ 5.256226
20 Druze + ES + GR + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.309115

Done.

Elapsed time 0.0947 seconds.



We would probably plot near each other. You have high East Med for someone only part South Italian.

Kivan
05-08-2019, 10:38 PM
Congratulations, my 44% Turkish friend. :D

just kidding.

barkoo
05-08-2019, 10:41 PM
i ve seen many italian flags when looking at it in the tree of people who got the clade search. might be. i don't know if ill do something to look more deeply into it though, at least for now.

alas!

Your map from SNP tracker

https://i.imgur.com/wEbJgbn.png

gıulıoımpa
05-08-2019, 10:42 PM
We would probably plot near each other. You have high East Med for someone only part South Italian.

i gotta imagine 2 things.

either my Southern part is very exotic or either my lazio side was probably more Southern shifted,

i think the second might be probable. so i reckon instead of being 50 % Southern i am around 60ish or something.

weird part my mothers father surname is from catalunya going really back in the centuries originally and i score only 0,3 iberia haha

xripkan
05-09-2019, 01:31 AM
i gotta imagine 2 things.

either my Southern part is very exotic or either my lazio side was probably more Southern shifted,

i think the second might be probable. so i reckon instead of being 50 % Southern i am around 60ish or something.

weird part my mothers father surname is from catalunya going really back in the centuries originally and i score only 0,3 iberia haha

Could you also post Dodecad K12b?

gıulıoımpa
05-09-2019, 09:50 AM
Could you also post Dodecad K12b?

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.57
2 Atlantic_Med 28.17
3 North_European 17.14
4 Southwest_Asian 9.59
5 Gedrosia 6.62
6 Northwest_African 2.49
7 East_African 0.42

Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 4.84
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.01
3 Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.13
4 C_Italian (Dodecad) 7.19
5 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 7.53
6 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 7.99
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 9.39
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 10.87
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 12.21
10 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 12.7
11 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 15.33
12 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 18.05
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.13
14 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 18.29
15 Romanians (Behar) 19.53
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 19.61
17 Cypriots (Behar) 19.85
18 Turkish (Dodecad) 20.02
19 Turks (Behar) 22.67
20 Lebanese (Behar) 24.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 23.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.23
2 68.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.6% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.34
3 77.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.1% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.42
4 76.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 23.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.47
5 77% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 23% Turks (Behar) @ 2.54
6 90.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.58
7 90.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.58
8 76.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 23.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.6
9 81.4% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 18.6% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.61
10 74.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 25.2% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.61
11 90.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.3% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.65
12 76.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 23.4% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 2.65
13 89.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 10.3% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.68
14 84.1% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 15.9% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.69
15 90.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.3% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.69
16 90.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.8% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.71
17 83.5% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.5% Adygei (HGDP) @ 2.72
18 83.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.2% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 2.73
19 91.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 8.3% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.73
20 77.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.1% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.73

Tacitus
05-09-2019, 10:33 AM
i gotta imagine 2 things.

either my Southern part is very exotic or either my lazio side was probably more Southern shifted,

i think the second might be probable. so i reckon instead of being 50 % Southern i am around 60ish or something.

weird part my mothers father surname is from catalunya going really back in the centuries originally and i score only 0,3 iberia haha

Where in Ciociaria is your ancestry from? If you come from the former Terra di Lavoro, then you're basically southern Italian on that side so I'd actually put you at 75% southern in that case.

I've got ancestry from there (Sora) and from the few GEDMatch kits I've seen from the area they tend to shift towards Abruzzo and/or Campania.

Also, try the Morley Y-DNA predictor if you want to get a deep look at your subclade. It's not always accurate but it's worth a look imo.

Ljubic
05-09-2019, 02:04 PM
Hello again, the time has come for me too. let's go.

keep in mind i am:
-half south italian (campania)
- one quarter center transitioning to south or rather south transitioning to center (Lazio)
-one quarter from northwest (piedmont) althoughit seemed my grandmother was closer to ligurians than piedmontese.


Let's talk haplogroups first.


https://i.ibb.co/vzkGxLv/ecccolo-2.jpg

it seems like i am of J2 stock of which mine is a particular subclade. Let me know if you know something about this haplo

J2------J-M172 ----J-L26

The maternal one too seems pretty in the norm as i seemed to grasp it is distributed all over europe.

composition:

https://i.ibb.co/vqyLvhk/eccolo.jpg (https://ibb.co/RbrQ4Nc)

it seems i score more italian than many italians. cool thing

...and i also have the N word pass if you look down below, haha. btw i really doubt i had " an ancestor between 1750 and 1820 who was 100% Senegambian or Guinean" as 23 and me says




now to Neanderthal variants.

https://i.ibb.co/gZxhB5B/eccolo-3.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

they seem low compared to other users.



talking about the use of gedmatch i am still walking in the dark i really don't know how to use it very well or what i am doing.

here some random screenshot, sorry many don't even include the oracle denomination up there
i hope they can give a comprehensive picture nonetheless.




https://i.ibb.co/cQRb0H7/Cattura-2.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

https://i.ibb.co/Ypd1mmt/eccolo-5.jpg (https://ibb.co/vZdTppJ)

j test

https://i.ibb.co/Rhx4D9P/j-test.jpg (https://ibb.co/TKVqgkR)


from this seems like there is a pull towards the east/caucasus

https://i.ibb.co/MgCLpn7/cattura-5.jpg (https://ibb.co/10mxKZT)

in single population it always seem i come very close to mainland Greeks.

this too looks Ancient greek pretty much, at least seems like it

https://i.ibb.co/PMJcpfV/Cattura-fg.jpg (https://ibb.co/w78SHx2)
https://i.ibb.co/qr7CKgR/Cattura-s.jpg (https://ibb.co/yQdptk8)

let me know whatever you think since there are many people more knowledgable than me on this.

How does your "Meet your DNA relatives" look like? Is Italy (after america of course) the place where most of your matches come from?

gıulıoımpa
05-09-2019, 02:10 PM
double post

gıulıoımpa
05-09-2019, 02:12 PM
How does your "Meet your DNA relatives" look like? Is Italy (after america of course) the place where most of your matches come from?

a Ton in New Jersey. i've got many more matches there than in all Italy.

one is pretty close, it's a descendent of the daughter (s different surname) of my grandads grandad. (fourth Cousin)

Ljubic
05-09-2019, 02:20 PM
a Ton in New Jersey. i've got many more matches there than in all Italy.

one is pretty close, it's a descendent of the daughter (s different surname) of my grandads grandad. (fourth Cousin)

I think that getting more American matches is nothing unusual because of the high amount of testers from there. Do you get many matches from somewhere else than Italy or America?

gıulıoımpa
05-09-2019, 02:40 PM
I think that getting more American matches is nothing unusual because of the high amount of testers from there. Do you get many matches from somewhere else than Italy or America?

i get USA, Australia, Brasil, UK, Germany. usual places of southern italian emigration, although many don't have an italian surname at all.

there is only one wierd one in Turkey, seems like he is a balkan turk ancestor origin states Bosnia Herzegovina, don't know what to think , the relationship would have been dating from the 1600's..maybe italians intermixing with people on the other side of the adriatic?

Morena
05-09-2019, 06:11 PM
Oh, boy, you have relatives in Jersey! :cool:

I think it's interesting that you are mostly S. Italian, but you don't look like what an American would consider as S. Italian (I know there is variation but I'm talking about the average person). So I don't think that here in the US, they would guess you as Italian at first.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
05-09-2019, 06:27 PM
incoming!



Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.11
2 West_Med 21.80
3 North_Atlantic 20.53
4 West_Asian 12.66
5 Baltic 9.15
6 Red_Sea 3.84


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 West_Sicilian @ 3.587744
2 Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.440066
3 Central_Greek @ 5.034242
4 East_Sicilian @ 5.115398
5 South_Italian @ 6.093432
6 Ashkenazi @ 8.577339
7 Greek_Thessaly @ 8.932351
8 Tuscan @ 9.744919
9 Italian_Jewish @ 12.286121
10 Sephardic_Jewish @ 12.504947
11 Algerian_Jewish @ 13.133003
12 North_Italian @ 17.150087
13 Tunisian_Jewish @ 17.363338
14 Libyan_Jewish @ 17.936560
15 Bulgarian @ 18.533463
16 Romanian @ 20.598269
17 Cyprian @ 21.528742
18 Serbian @ 25.160666
19 Lebanese_Muslim @ 25.236637
20 Tunisian @ 25.563900

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +50% West_Sicilian @ 2.519452


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +25% Italian_Jewish +25% North_Italian @ 1.894132


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Ashkenazi + Italian_Abruzzo + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.820252
2 Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + North_Italian @ 1.894132
3 Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + Tuscan @ 1.994686
4 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.032150
5 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Cyprian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.071874
6 Ashkenazi + North_Italian + South_Italian + South_Italian @ 2.080838
7 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + West_Sicilian @ 2.116526
8 Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Tuscan @ 2.122281
9 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + North_Italian + South_Italian @ 2.130068
10 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Cyprian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.131778
11 Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.143741
12 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + Tuscan @ 2.146883
13 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Tuscan @ 2.159620
14 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish @ 2.169216
15 Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 2.201099
16 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.207187
17 Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 2.212412
18 Ashkenazi + Cyprian + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.222682
19 Ashkenazi + Cyprian + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.254997
20 Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.259527

Done.

Elapsed time 0.6882 seconds.














Gedmatch.Com

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.76
2 North_Sea 19.04
3 West_Med 18.14
4 West_Asian 10.51
5 Atlantic 7.85
6 Baltic 6.51
7 Red_Sea 2.99
8 Eastern_Euro 1.64


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Central_Greek @ 12.992952
2 East_Sicilian @ 13.096887
3 Greek_Thessaly @ 13.141953
4 Ashkenazi @ 13.338105
5 South_Italian @ 13.566120
6 Italian_Jewish @ 14.119174
7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 14.798048
8 West_Sicilian @ 15.318481
9 Algerian_Jewish @ 16.513840
10 Libyan_Jewish @ 17.010914
11 Greek @ 17.121796
12 Tuscan @ 17.362545
13 Sephardic_Jewish @ 17.579092
14 Tunisian_Jewish @ 20.183149
15 Cyprian @ 22.078655
16 Bulgarian @ 22.828274
17 North_Italian @ 23.134779
18 Romanian @ 24.150013
19 Lebanese_Muslim @ 25.357981
20 Syrian @ 25.806568

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Thessaly +50% Libyan_Jewish @ 9.947433


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Sardinian +25% West_Norwegian @ 8.764882


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 8.764882
2 Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 8.802076
3 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Swedish @ 8.911170
4 Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Christian + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 8.994588
5 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 9.073474
6 Greek_Thessaly + Libyan_Jewish + Samaritan + West_German @ 9.208558
7 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 9.261070
8 Cyprian + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + West_Norwegian @ 9.303852
9 Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + South_Italian + West_German @ 9.319478
10 Greek_Thessaly + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 9.360364
11 Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 9.372175
12 Central_Greek + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 9.385078
13 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Swedish @ 9.416773
14 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 9.418671
15 Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 9.492063
16 Cyprian + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Norwegian @ 9.503184
17 Lebanese_Druze + Libyan_Jewish + South_Italian + West_Norwegian @ 9.508064
18 Lebanese_Christian + Libyan_Jewish + South_Italian + West_Norwegian @ 9.508166
19 Cyprian + Libyan_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Swedish @ 9.511118
20 Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Christian + Libyan_Jewish + West_Norwegian @ 9.536736

Done.

Elapsed time 2.2373 seconds.

+ organigrams



since i am really not good with this i hope those were the ones. Pretty greek like heh?



+ the J test



Jtest 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Jtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 31.67
2 WEST_MED 16.81
3 ATLANTIC 11.64
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.01
5 WEST_ASIAN 9.10
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.20
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 6.17
8 ASHKENAZI 4.55
9 EAST_EURO 1.86


Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
14 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 GR @ 6.321928
2 South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 8.328507
3 Tuscan @ 14.247843
4 North_Italian @ 19.166016
5 RO @ 22.041517
6 TR @ 24.077679
7 Serbian @ 24.503483
8 PT @ 27.348568
9 Assyrian @ 28.348797
10 AJ @ 28.689375
11 Druze @ 29.299229
12 ES @ 29.375961
13 Samaritan @ 29.531013
14 Armenian @ 29.596951
15 IQ @ 29.644573
16 Mandean @ 30.521423
17 Kurdish @ 31.309402
18 HU @ 31.617722
19 IR @ 31.637751
20 AT @ 31.702225

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Druze +50% North_Italian @ 6.122202


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% GR +25% GR +25% Tuscan @ 5.244005


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Druze + GR + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.544908
2 Druze + GR + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 3.654326
3 Druze + FR + GR + GR @ 4.346043
4 Druze + ES + GR + GR @ 4.498130
5 Druze + GR + RO + Tuscan @ 4.589308
6 Druze + GR + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 4.694237
7 Druze + North_Italian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian + Tuscan @ 4.730712
8 Druze + GR + GR + PT @ 4.736326
9 Druze + North_Italian + North_Italian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.764301
10 Druze + RO + South_Italian_&_Sicilian + Tuscan @ 4.815320
11 Druze + GR + North_Italian + RO @ 4.852113
12 Druze + FR + GR + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.041197
13 Druze + GR + PT + Tuscan @ 5.105392
14 Druze + GR + Serbian + Tuscan @ 5.112957
15 Druze + North_Italian + RO + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.173559
16 Druze + GR + GR + North_Italian @ 5.226989
17 GR + GR + GR + Tuscan @ 5.244005
18 Druze + RO + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 5.255725
19 Druze + ES + GR + Tuscan @ 5.256226
20 Druze + ES + GR + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.309115

Done.

Elapsed time 0.0947 seconds.



Interesting, you plot like a Sardinian shifted Sicilian/South Italian. Still you posted Oracle 4, not standard Oracle result so components aren't on 100%. I doubt there would be significant change, though

https://i.imgur.com/LbIEeK3.png

gıulıoımpa
05-09-2019, 06:31 PM
Oh, boy, you have relatives in Jersey! :cool:

I think it's interesting that you are mostly S. Italian, but you don't look like what an American would consider as S. Italian (I know there is variation but I'm talking about the average person). So I don't think that here in the US, they would guess you as Italian at first.

i get what you are saying, i look a lot like mom and she is very "frenchie" looking and somewhat pale. my sister though looks more like my father and i think she looks very Southern italian , she would either be guessed as that ,balkan or not excluded even some kind of "latina" actually to a US eye.

gıulıoımpa
05-09-2019, 06:36 PM
Interesting, you plot like a Sardinian shifted Sicilian/South Italian. Still you posted Oracle 4, not standard Oracle result so components aren't on 100%. I doubt there would be significant change, though

https://i.imgur.com/LbIEeK3.png

oh thanks for this one! i did it but with another calc i came out closer to abruzzo.

thing is is things went as such : somewhat exotic Southern family pulled a touch northwest due to my maternal grandma coming form northwestern Italy, hence the shift you described.

being a kind of "mix " the calculations always end up coming with numbers of accuracy that are less to what a single region italian would be.

PT Tagus
05-09-2019, 06:42 PM
Congrats! You're so Italian that it hurts. xD


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pn6kgKXkZQ

Vid Flumina
05-09-2019, 06:46 PM
Interesting, you plot like a Sardinian shifted Sicilian/South Italian.

https://i.imgur.com/LbIEeK3.png

Or a Mycenaean castaway:

http://i66.tinypic.com/2ekulx0.jpg

gıulıoımpa
05-09-2019, 06:54 PM
Congrats! You're so Italian that it hurts. xD


: that's what she said :p

haha , had to say it. thanks btw :)

Ayetooey
05-09-2019, 07:15 PM
OP's k15 plot full oracle.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/521730520665686024/576062648857264129/unknown.png?width=400&height=287

Dick
05-10-2019, 09:01 PM
https://media1.giphy.com/media/A1bZQUmtLzOHm/giphy.gif

Bosniensis
05-10-2019, 09:04 PM
https://media1.giphy.com/media/A1bZQUmtLzOHm/giphy.gif

https://i.imgur.com/ldh0hPT.gif

gıulıoımpa
05-10-2019, 09:12 PM
https://media1.giphy.com/media/A1bZQUmtLzOHm/giphy.gif

the gospel is spreading , even danes use it now.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-10-2019/LW9bzM.gif

gıulıoımpa
05-12-2019, 09:22 PM
Also, try the Morley Y-DNA predictor if you want to get a deep look at your subclade. It's not always accurate but it's worth a look imo.

hey Tacitus, asking for directives as always. i've went and gave a look but since it asks my SNP calls list i don't know what to do(nooob) . how do i get the thing i gotta put in that Y dna predictor? sorry for the bother.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
05-12-2019, 09:38 PM
try this tool, it's nothing serious but pretty interesting: https://dna.land/

You can also upload to yourdnaportal for free. This thing is used by everyone now, I'd recommend it also: http://dnagenics.com/admixture-studio/

XYZ.2018
05-18-2019, 12:04 AM
@gıulıoımpa

Very boring genome.

gıulıoımpa
05-18-2019, 07:16 PM
Very boring genome.



https://media2.giphy.com/media/l4FGCwqFAUWFVYvTy/giphy.gif