Adam Janossy is a Balkanite

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/ZLsUkwg.png

Only Magyar who score South Asian on Myheritage also.
Check this thread: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?290258-Post-Hungarian-MyHeritage

[Pansarkamrat]

South Asia comes from gypsy admixture.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

South Asia comes from gypsy admixture.

He's always hiding his results but I got them all from his wife, saved and stored.

[ixulescu]

This is the truth.

[pulstar]

I'm not much into DNA tests and all but I'd say being Balkanite is more about mentality than anything else. Its about loving your poorness/misery and being proud of it.

[Dorian]

Noble gypsy :lmao

[Pansarkamrat]

Noble gypsy :lmao

He could even be related to Mortimer.

[Dorian]

He could even be related to Mortimer.

No doubt ,they must share common ancestors..

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

He could even be related to Mortimer.

We can check that, just give me Mortimer Kit number

[Pansarkamrat]

We can check that, just give me Mortimer Kit number

Hahahaha i hope he is. I dont know Mortimers kit number but i can ask him.

[Csanád]

Any moment now

[Cumansky]

Heavy Germanic also, if you disagree check my thread for more Hungarians.

I not debating tho title, he is similar to Croatians.

[Lucas]

I was 43% Balkanite on MH at first. I remember that I had more Balkan than Feiichy. Now is about 30% after updates.

So MH is shit generally:)

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Heavy Germanic also, if you disagree check my thread for more Hungarians.

I not debating tho title, he is similar to Croatians.

Yeah but I don't think he's that similar to Croats. Too much Germanic

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I was 43% Balkanite on MH at first. I remember that I had more Balkan than Feiichy. Now is about 30% after updates.

So MH is shit generally:)

Lol I know. She gets 0% Balkan, pretty interesting. I get 33% Balkan.

On MyHeritage Balkan is South Slavic. Albos score Greek instead iirc

[Dick]

I was 43% Balkanite on MH at first. I remember that I had more Balkan than Feiichy. Now is about 30% after updates.

So MH is shit generally:)

I've seen french get Balkan as well.

[Cumansky]

Yeah but I don't think he's that similar to Croats. Too much Germanic

How much Germanic you got MyHeritage?

[Cumansky]

I was 43% Balkanite on MH at first. I remember that I had more Balkan than Feiichy. Now is about 30% after updates.

So MH is shit generally:)

East European and Balkan very similar.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

How much Germanic you got MyHeritage?

37% NW Euro

[Cumansky]

37% NW Euro

That is why I said similar to Croatian for him.

Northwest European is general Northwest component, Scandinavian is more Germanic centric component.

[Lena]

He's always hiding his results but I got them all from his wife, saved and stored.

It's not okay to share infos someone gave you in private no matter what :/

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

That is why I said similar to Croatian for him.

Northwest European is general Northwest component, Scandinavian is more Germanic centric component.

I am less than 50% Croat biologically, old man is Slovene and my mother is quater Czech Silesian.
Btw under NW Euro I get Scandinavian + English

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

It's not okay to share infos someone gave you in private no matter what :/

That's true, but she posted his MyHeritage results in the past.

[Voskos]

No matter what people say about myheritage its been the most accurate for me. The only official test that gave me majority Greek and almost 0 italian.

[Cumansky]

I am less than 50% Croat biologically, old man is Slovene and my mother is quater Czech Silesian.
Btw under NW Euro I get Scandinavian + English

Scandinavian is Germanic centric, English is Celtic centric.

Ph2ter get alot of the Celts.

[Dick]

No matter what people say about myheritage its been the most accurate for me. The only official test that gave me majority Greek and almost 0 italian.

Interesting. I'd like to try it one day too. Some say it has best raw rata?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Scandinavian is Germanic centric, English is Celtic centric.

Ph2ter get alot of the Celts.

Yeah, and that fits his origin. NW Croatia is mix of Slavs and Celts
Funny how he's lot more northern than me, I guess Bosnian Croat origin of my mother side pulled me southeast a bit

I'm around Hungarian average, he's close to Czech average.

[Cumansky]

No matter what people say about myheritage its been the most accurate for me. The only official test that gave me majority Greek and almost 0 italian.

I wouldn't take this company literally, just good compare proportion with others.

[Cumansky]

Yeah, and that fits his origin. NW Croatia is mix of Slavs and Celts
Funny how he's lot more northern than me, I guess Bosnian Croat origin of my mother side pulled me southeast a bit

I'm around Hungarian average, he's close to Czech average.

You are different than him, he is most northern Croat I seen, kind of like Czech.

[TheMaestro]

MyHeritage Balkan can be also fully Slavic btw.

[Dušan]

You are different than him, he is most northern Croat I seen, kind of like Czech.

Ph2ter said it is normal result for NW Croats (kajkavian). I agree with him.
There is autosomal difference between kajkavian and shtokavian Croats.

[Zmey Gorynych]

1.2% is more than just noise. Ouch.

[Cumansky]

MyHeritage Balkan can be also fully Slavic btw.

Can you explain in detail what you said, it make no sense, kind of like you.

[Cumansky]

Ph2ter said it is normal result for NW Croats (kajkavian). I agree with him.
There is autosomal difference between kajkavian and shtokavian Croats.

IDK man, not my country, he is most northern shifted Croat tho.

[TheMaestro]

Can you explain in detail what you said, it make no sense, kind of like you.

In myHeritage the "Balkan" refference can indicate not just Balkanites but also West or South Slavs. That's why some Polish people score high % of Balkan, not because they are Balkanites, but because myHeritage is crap and their SE + E + C European refferences to ethnicities are highly innacurate and dogshit.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Ph2ter said it is normal result for NW Croats (kajkavian). I agree with him.
There is autosomal difference between kajkavian and shtokavian Croats.

It's true. Chakavian and Stokavian Croats seem pretty similar tho, maybe Chakavians are bit more Slav if they are like Jana/Stearsolina

[Cumansky]

In myHeritage the "Balkan" refference can indicate not just Balkanites but also West or South Slavs. That's why some Polish people score high % of Balkan, not because they are Balkanites, but because myHeritage is crap and their SE + E + C European refferences to ethnicities are highly innacurate and dogshit.

What is a Balkanite? Is this an ethnic group? Never heard of it.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

In myHeritage the "Balkan" refference can indicate not just Balkanites but also West or South Slavs. That's why some Polish people score high % of Balkan, not because they are Balkanites, but because myHeritage is crap and their SE + E + C European refferences to ethnicities are highly innacurate and dogshit.

Balkan is based on South Slavs on MyHeritage

[TheMaestro]

Balkan is based on South Slavs on MyHeritage

Its a very broad term on myHeritage, I am 0% south slavic and I score 88% on myHeritage, so that's how I know its uber bullshit :D

[TheMaestro]

What is a Balkanite? Is this an ethnic group? Never heard of it.

Everyone in Balkans, excluding Greece/Albania, in this calc.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Its a very broad term on myHeritage, I am 0% south slavic and I score 88% on myHeritage, so that's how I know its uber bullshit :D

Aren't you part Magyar tho ? Magyars have lot of south slav admix, they look like mix af all 3 slav branches as matter of fact, depending on region

[TheMaestro]

Aren't you part Magyar tho ? Magyars have lot of south slav admix, they look like mix af all 3 slav branches as matter of fact, depending on region

Yeah but my mother in that case is magyarized in terms of language and identity, she is fully Slavic + Minor British, ploting around Northern Poland.

[Sekkmer]

Waiting for Stears’ comment.

[ph2ter]

Scandinavian is Germanic centric, English is Celtic centric.

Ph2ter get alot of the Celts.

Not in MyHeritage. I get some Scandinavian:

East European 35.7%
Balkan 34.4%
Scandinavian 21.2%
Baltic 8.7%

[Pansarkamrat]

We can check that, just give me Mortimer Kit number
M434151

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

M434151

No shared DNA segments found

431139 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.257 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.049 cpu seconds.

[Cumansky]

Everyone in Balkans, excluding Greece/Albania, in this calc.

MyHeritage not really calc, is fixed algorithm you don't understand.

[Cumansky]

Not in MyHeritage. I get some Scandinavian:

East European 35.7%
Balkan 34.4%
Scandinavian 21.2%
Baltic 8.7%

And your MDLP K16 please?

[Bosniensis]

stears! reply to these vile insinuations!

tell them you are not Balkanite but Turk!

[ph2ter]

And your MDLP K16 please?
MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NorthEastEuropean 27.57
2 Caucasian 24.86
3 Neolithic 24.55
4 Steppe 22.35



Finished reading population data. 517 populations found.
16 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 German_Lipsian_(Saxony) @ 4.782223
2 Pole_EastPoland @ 4.856391
3 Hungarian_Hungary @ 5.227589
4 Slovak_Slovakia @ 5.344038
5 Croat_Croatia @ 5.359385
6 Dutch_Netherlands @ 5.518544
7 Pole_Wroclaw @ 5.800656
8 Slovenian_Slovenia @ 6.026128
9 Hungarian_WestUkraine @ 6.329332
10 Hungarian_Budapest @ 6.433318
11 Pole_WestPoland @ 6.441889
12 Ukrainian_Ukraine @ 6.471254
13 Czech_Czechia @ 6.518723
14 Sorb_Lusatia @ 6.805294
15 Croat_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 7.005476
16 German_Germany @ 7.022231
17 Bosnian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 7.030531
18 Ukrainians_west_WestUkraine @ 7.301764
19 Austrian_Austria @ 7.304783
20 Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 7.385965

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Croat_Croatia +50% Dutch_Netherlands @ 3.882561


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Dutch_Netherlands +25% Macedonian_Macedonia +25% Pole_Poland @ 3.469452


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++
1 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Pole_EastPoland + Pole_EastPoland + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.391201
2 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Dutch_Netherlands + Dutch_Netherlands + Pole_Poland @ 3.398641
3 Belarusian_Belarus + Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Dutch_Netherlands + Dutch_Netherlands @ 3.421046
4 Greek_Greece + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Norwegian_Norwegia + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.454608
5 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Dutch_Netherlands + Dutch_Netherlands + Pole_Poland @ 3.461108
6 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Pole_Poland + Pole_EastPoland + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.465931
7 Dutch_Netherlands + Dutch_Netherlands + Macedonian_Macedonia + Pole_Poland @ 3.469452
8 Belarusian_Belarus + Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Dutch_Netherlands + Dutch_Netherlands @ 3.470367
9 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Dutch_Netherlands + Pole_Poland + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.472310
10 Belarusian_Belarus + Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Croat_Croatia + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.477295
11 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Pole_Poland + Pole_EastPoland + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.477434
12 Belarusian_Belarus + Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Croat_Croatia + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.492978
13 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Croat_Croatia + Pole_Poland + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.500127
14 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + German_Lipsian_(Saxony) + Pole_Poland + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.503611
15 Belarusian_Belarus + Dutch_Netherlands + Dutch_Netherlands + Macedonian_Macedonia @ 3.504860
16 Belarusian_Kobryn_Brest + Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Dutch_Netherlands + Pole_EastPoland @ 3.505503
17 Greek_Greece + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.507482
18 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Pole_EastPoland + Pole_EastPoland + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.508143
19 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Dutch_Netherlands + Pole_EastPoland + Pole_EastPoland @ 3.513014
20 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Croat_Croatia + Pole_Poland + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.517033

[Papastratosels26]

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[Kostej]

2,4 percent Asian is a LOT actualy. But that site is shifted towards balkanite I got a lot there too much more than on ancestry or other calculators.

[Ylla]

He's not, its just that myHeritage is terrible

[TheMaestro]

MyHeritage not really calc, is fixed algorithm you don't understand.

Everything is calc, TA is sum of calculation based of programation. I understadn how those companies differentiate with gedmatch, dont worry..

[Grace O'Malley]

They look really cool results. I'd love to have some Eskimo/Inuit.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

2,4 percent Asian is a LOT actualy. But that site is shifted towards balkanite I got a lot there too much more than on ancestry or other calculators.

Balkan is mix of slavic and med genes because it's based on Southern Slavs. That's why both east and south euros can score it in significant amounts.

[Lucas]

They look really cool results. I'd love to have some Eskimo/Inuit.

Me too.

Eskimo reminded me this well known TA phenotype map

http://oi57.tinypic.com/dczc4m.jpg

[Jana]

South Asia comes from gypsy admixture.

I assure you it isn't true. Because I sent his raw data file to Norwegian guy on Anthrogenica who has big collection of Romani people. He isn't realted to any of them.
That guy concluded, his south asian is from Tatar like admixture :)

It is interesting how minor south asian blood is present in Finns, north Russians and other Uralics and there were no Gypsies there.

[Pansarkamrat]

I assure you it isn't true. Because I sent his raw data file to Norwegian guy on Anthrogenica who has big collection of Romani people. He isn't realted to any of them.
That guy concluded, his south asian is from Tatar like admixture :)

It is interesting how minor south asian blood is present in Finns, north Russians and other Uralics and there were no Gypsies there.

Intressting. I am 5% tatar myself. I maybe get South asian then to if tatars have it.

[Pansarkamrat]

I assure you it isn't true. Because I sent his raw data file to Norwegian guy on Anthrogenica who has big collection of Romani people. He isn't realted to any of them.
That guy concluded, his south asian is from Tatar like admixture :)

It is interesting how minor south asian blood is present in Finns, north Russians and other Uralics and there were no Gypsies there.

Intressting. I am 5% tatar myself. I maybe get South asian then to if tatars have it.

[Jana]

He's not, its just that myHeritage is terrible

He gets Balkan also in FTDNA, which separates it from Slavic. I will upload it for a minute

[Jana]

Intressting. I am 5% tatar myself. I maybe get South asian then to if tatars have it.

Yes. Central Asian farmers had Indian component and today all Turkics/Iranics in region have some admixture from there - Uzbeks/Turkmens/Tajiks significant.
South Asian admixture penetrated Volga-Ural region too.

In Anatolia south asian among ethnic Turks arrived with Oghuz conquerors.

[Jana]

FTDNA My Origins

https://i.imgur.com/b1KljBR.png

[Izmir]

Yes. Central Asian farmers had Indian component and today all Turkics/Iranics in region have some admixture from there - Uzbeks/Turkmens/Tajiks significant.
South Asian admixture penetrated Volga-Ural region too.

In Anatolia south asian among ethnic Turks arrived with Oghuz conquerors.

Just LOL how you even contacted a "specialist" in gipsy genetics because you too thought he might be part gipsy.Sorry to burst your bubble but its gypsy,not oghuz conqueror ,magyar conqueror or any other shit you try to cope with.North Russians,Scandos,Tatars etc score a max of 2.5% s.asian and Stears has around half of that, now here comes the funny part,
Stears is half hungarian/half szekely not half north russian,scando or tatar, he has a fully s.asian ancestor in the last hundred of years,only in this way his s.asian admixture could've survived for more than 1 generation among people with no s.asian admixture.His heightened middle-eastern admixture on gedmatch and ftdna is also a clear sign as gypsies today are roughy 20% middle eastern.
The gypsy ancestor is distant so rest assured Stears, you can still larp as noble.

https://i.imgur.com/b1KljBR.png

Now that norwegian guy does not have ethnic gypsy sample from Transylvania, all gypsies I know of who tested are assimilated and from S.Romania and many have euro mixture.You actually think any of pic related purchased a dna test?
https://www.activenews.ro/images/articole/136610.jpg

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

:D

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

FTDNA My Origins

https://i.imgur.com/b1KljBR.png

This proves his Balkan admixture is real. 33% is pretty damn big and on FTDNA it's based on Greeks, Albos and Sicilians, not southslavs.
If you ask me he is genetically half Romanian like.

[TheMaestro]

This proves his Balkan admixture is real. 33% is pretty damn big and on FTDNA it's based on Greeks, Albos and Sicilians, not southslavs.
If you ask me he is genetically half Romanian like.

He is an Albo, now I can invite him on tea.

[Izmir]

This proves his Balkan admixture is real. 33% is pretty damn big and on FTDNA it's based on Greeks, Albos and Sicilians, not southslavs.
If you ask me he is genetically half Romanian like.

Almost all szkelies are identical with romanians autosomally.Remember when he said his dalmatian croat grandma pulls him S-E? LOL! I wonder why he does not purchase 23andme directly instead he chooses shit dna tests, he'd be over 50% balkan.Maybe because it will say "We predict you had ancestors who lived in Balkans in the last 100 years"? LMFAOOO

He is about ~5% gipsy for sure, he gets it on ancestrydna, ftdna etc.. he'd score on 23andme too a few percent and not just gedmatch because its recent enough

[Dušan]

5% non-European. :cool:

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Almost all szkelies are identical with romanians autosomally.Remember when he said his dalmatian croat grandma pulls him S-E? LOL! I wonder why he does not purchase 23andme directly instead he chooses shit dna tests, he'd be over 50% balkan.Maybe because it will say "We predict you had ancestors who lived in Balkans in the last 100 years"? LMFAOOO

He is about ~5% gipsy for sure, he gets it on ancestrydna, ftdna etc.. he'd score on 23andme too a few percent and not just gedmatch because its recent enough

I know you're a troll bruv, but I gotta agree with you on many points. Szekely and Hungarians clearly two different populations genetically.
he got some indian no matter the source, and that's fucking ironic considering how racist he is

[Ayetooey]

Almost all szkelies are identical with romanians autosomally.Remember when he said his dalmatian croat grandma pulls him S-E? LOL! I wonder why he does not purchase 23andme directly instead he chooses shit dna tests, he'd be over 50% balkan.Maybe because it will say "We predict you had ancestors who lived in Balkans in the last 100 years"? LMFAOOO

He is about ~5% gipsy for sure, he gets it on ancestrydna, ftdna etc.. he'd score on 23andme too a few percent and not just gedmatch because its recent enough

He's done 23andme already I've heard; just refuses to post it, wonder why.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

5% non-European. :cool:

He gets little bit of everything, chinky, curry, mena
We south slavs are more European than him, in us such exotic admixtures are rare (even if it's minor in his case)

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

He's done 23andme already I've heard; just refuses to post it, wonder why.

That's interesting. Jana send me his results but not 23andme
Maybe he's hiding the fact he got Romania as country of origin

[Ayetooey]

That's interesting. Jana send me his results but not 23andme
Maybe he's hiding the fact he got Romania as country of origin

It is almost certain; he calls south slavs wog, calls orthodox people Asiatic; Ironic as I don't see Serbs/Croats score so many wog scores like him; he has a minor percent on FTDNA from pretty much every race excluding SSA. I am sure on 23andme he would score south asian with the new update, as well as minor east asian (cuman). These minor percentages are pretty irrelevant but ironic coming someone like him.

[Methuselah]

Just LOL how you even contacted a "specialist" in gipsy genetics because you too thought he might be part gipsy.Sorry to burst your bubble but its gypsy,not oghuz conqueror ,magyar conqueror or any other shit you try to cope with.North Russians,Scandos,Tatars etc score a max of 2.5% s.asian
Where do Scandos get their South Asian from if they get any?

His heightened middle-eastern admixture on gedmatch and ftdna is also a clear sign as gypsies today are roughy 20% middle eastern.
Is it usually Caucasus, their Middle Eastern?

[Dušan]

He gets little bit of everything, chinky, curry, mena
We south slavs are more European than him, in us such exotic admixtures are rare (even if it's minor in his case)

It's obviously gipsy admixture.
O how ironic... :rotfl

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

It is almost certain; he calls south slavs wog, calls orthodox people Asiatic; Ironic as I don't see Serbs/Croats score so many wog scores like him; he has a minor percent on FTDNA from pretty much every race excluding SSA. I am sure on 23andme he would score south asian with the new update, as well as minor east asian (cuman). These minor percentages are pretty irrelevant but ironic coming someone like him.

1% South Central Africa

xD xD xD

[Ayetooey]

1% South Central Africa

xD xD xD

Lmaoooo.

https://memestatic1.fjcdn.com/comments/Gtgermansri+lankan+el+abominacion+_2c4f91bde226746 3c282f0e2bb585552.jpg

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Lmaoooo.

https://memestatic1.fjcdn.com/comments/Gtgermansri+lankan+el+abominacion+_2c4f91bde226746 3c282f0e2bb585552.jpg

Is FTDNA reliable when it comes to minor admixtures ? I wonder how the hell did he menage to score every race on earth

[Dušan]

I wonder how the hell did he menage to score every race on earth

He is ubermensch, indeed. :p

[Ayetooey]

Is FTDNA reliable when it comes to minor admixtures ? I wonder how the hell did he menage to score every race on earth

I'm not sure; I only scored 1% Finnish on FTDNA. nothing non Euro. I've seen a lot of Serb results from Poreko, I've only seen people score Anatolian as non Euro minor admix, and that could probably be something neolithic, but nothing to the extent Stears scores. I do think FTDNA is pretty questionable overall however, I've seen central euros and south slavs score significant British on it for example. I'd probs trust 23andme the most with these minor admixs.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

He is ubermensch, indeed. :p

did you test with FTNDA mate ?

[Lucas]

, I've only seen people score Anatolian as non Euro minor admix, and that could probably be something neolithic, but nothing to the extent Stears scores.

This Anatolian score was how big? And for what ethncities?

[Dušan]

did you test with FTNDA mate ?

Yes.
https://i.imgur.com/a66M1h2.png

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I'm not sure; I only scored 1% Finnish on FTDNA. nothing non Euro. I've seen a lot of Serb results from Poreko, I've only seen people score Anatolian as non Euro minor admix, and that could probably be something neolithic, but nothing to the extent Stears scores. I do think FTDNA is pretty questionable overall however, I've seen central euros and south slavs score significant British on it for example. I'd probs trust 23andme the most with these minor admixs.

Can we interpret British as Keltic ?
I think his admixtures may be real, on gedmatch he always gets some exotic shit in minor percentages. Like Magyar + Baloch/Makrani/afghan etc.
i believed it's just noise but looking how many other tested people don't score anything overly exotic it's probably just fact he is not completely white genetically.

[Izmir]

He's done 23andme already I've heard; just refuses to post it, wonder why.

We're talking about small gipsy percent, so some south asian, some mena, the small percent gook can come from his szekely side , plus the typical ftdna/ancestry bad interpretation of small scores which everybody has.

Ironically most gypsies in Romania live in "Szkelyland"

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Romi_%28tigani%29_Romania_2002.png/1200px-Romi_%28tigani%29_Romania_2002.png

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Yes.
https://i.imgur.com/a66M1h2.png

Very pure, only 1% Siberia which lots of Slavs get. It looks like Stears scores this exotic components because he really carries such blood.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

If FTDNA didn't work, anyone would get what Stears does. but only he gets it and other people don't, even those he calls less white like Serbs. Hahaha

[Dušan]

We're talking about small gipsy percent, so some south asian, some mena, the small percent gook can come from his szekely side , plus the typical ftdna/ancestry bad interpretation of small scores which everybody has.



There is no problem with gypsy adixture.

The problem is that he is racist calling other nations and people semi-asiatic, barbarian etc. And yet he is not full European.

[Ayetooey]

Can we interpret British as Keltic ?
I think his admixtures may be real, on gedmatch he always gets some exotic shit in minor percentages. Like Magyar + Baloch/Makrani/afghan etc.
i believed it's just noise but looking how many other tested people don't score anything overly exotic it's probably just fact he is not completely white genetically.

Brits don't even have a lot of "true" celtic blood in terms of Hallstatt celts, so I don't even know what that is, it might just be the algorithm trying to balance out someones results because an individual plots more north than average; even then though, one of the Albanians here who plots normal and scores normal on other tests scored like 15% British so I don't know what to think of it really.

We'd need to have a look at his gedmatch results to gain a proper idea; the SSA amount is pretty interesting; surely this comes from his Szkely side.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Brits don't even have a lot of "true" celtic blood in terms of Hallstatt celts, so I don't even know what that is, it might just be the algorithm trying to balance out someones results because an individual plots more north than average; even then though, one of the Albanians here who plots normal and scores normal on other tests scored like 15% British so I don't know what to think of it really.

We'd need to have a look at his gedmatch results to gain a proper idea; the SSA amount is pretty interesting; surely this comes from his Szkely side.

here's his eurogenes k13 (best test out there i guess)


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.21
2 North_Atlantic 28.17
3 West_Med 12.89
4 West_Asian 10.93
5 East_Med 10.61
6 South_Asian 2.03
7 Siberian 1.9
8 Red_Sea 0.78
9 Amerindian 0.76
10 Northeast_African 0.47
11 East_Asian 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.71
2 Hungarian 5.03
3 Croatian 5.79
4 Serbian 6.89
5 Austrian 9.23
6 East_German 9.98
7 Romanian 10.29
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.15
9 South_Polish 11.41
10 Ukrainian 12.54
11 Bulgarian 12.86
12 Polish 15.15
13 Southwest_Russian 15.81
14 West_German 15.85
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.87
16 South_Dutch 17.35
17 Russian_Smolensk 17.42
18 Estonian_Polish 18.15
19 North_German 18.23
20 Belorussian 18.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.6% Hungarian + 10.4% Kabardin @ 2.3
2 90% Hungarian + 10% Balkar @ 2.4
3 89.4% Hungarian + 10.6% Kumyk @ 2.43
4 90.3% Hungarian + 9.7% Adygei @ 2.43
5 90.5% Hungarian + 9.5% North_Ossetian @ 2.44
6 89.8% Hungarian + 10.2% Chechen @ 2.59
7 90.4% Hungarian + 9.6% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.63
8 92.3% Hungarian + 7.7% Abhkasian @ 2.67
9 91% Hungarian + 9% Ossetian @ 2.67
10 90.1% Hungarian + 9.9% Lezgin @ 2.72
11 92% Hungarian + 8% Georgian @ 2.74
12 88.8% Hungarian + 11.2% Nogay @ 2.75
13 92.9% Hungarian + 7.1% Makrani @ 2.79
14 89.9% Hungarian + 10.1% Tadjik @ 2.8
15 93.2% Hungarian + 6.8% Brahui @ 2.8
16 91.2% Hungarian + 8.8% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.8
17 93.1% Hungarian + 6.9% Balochi @ 2.84
18 90% Hungarian + 10% Tabassaran @ 2.85
19 82.8% Moldavian + 17.2% North_German @ 2.87
20 90.4% Hungarian + 9.6% Turkmen @ 2.87

mixed pop is interesting in his case

Magyar + kavkaz, south and central asian populations is pretty exotic

[Kamal900]

Excuse my ignorance but is he Stears? If he is then that's probably the biggest irony in TA's history.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Excuse my ignorance but is he Stears? If he is then that's probably the biggest irony in TA's history.

Yep

[Dušan]

Very pure, only 1% Siberia which lots of Slavs get. It looks like Stears scores this exotic components because he really carries such blood.

I don't have problem with my 1% Siberian.
Not racist like him.

[TheMaestro]

Yes.
https://i.imgur.com/a66M1h2.png

Looks like mine in reverse.

[TheMaestro]

If FTDNA didn't work, anyone would get what Stears does. but only he gets it and other people don't, even those he calls less white like Serbs. Hahaha

OWD bruv, he wants to convince others how white he is and calls other WOG, what is pretty funny since he score 5% non-EU admixture.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

OWD bruv, he wants to convince others how white he is and calls other WOG, what is pretty funny since he score 5% non-EU admixture.

He looks much whiter than his genetics, probably that's where his arrogance is coming from. I would guess he's German

[TheMaestro]

He looks much whiter than his genetics, probably that's where his arrogance is coming from. I would guess he's German

Yeah he looks white, much whiter/lighter than me no doubts, but his looks are kinda wierd tbh..

[Methuselah]

Yeah he looks white, much whiter/lighter than me no doubts, but his looks are kinda wierd tbh..

He looks like Cillian Murphy, Vladimir Putin and Tom Hardy made a baby.

[Izmir]

here's his eurogenes k13 (best test out there i guess)


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.21
2 North_Atlantic 28.17
3 West_Med 12.89
4 West_Asian 10.93
5 East_Med 10.61
6 South_Asian 2.03
7 Siberian 1.9
8 Red_Sea 0.78
9 Amerindian 0.76
10 Northeast_African 0.47
11 East_Asian 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.71
2 Hungarian 5.03
3 Croatian 5.79
4 Serbian 6.89
5 Austrian 9.23
6 East_German 9.98
7 Romanian 10.29
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.15
9 South_Polish 11.41
10 Ukrainian 12.54
11 Bulgarian 12.86
12 Polish 15.15
13 Southwest_Russian 15.81
14 West_German 15.85
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.87
16 South_Dutch 17.35
17 Russian_Smolensk 17.42
18 Estonian_Polish 18.15
19 North_German 18.23
20 Belorussian 18.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.6% Hungarian + 10.4% Kabardin @ 2.3
2 90% Hungarian + 10% Balkar @ 2.4
3 89.4% Hungarian + 10.6% Kumyk @ 2.43
4 90.3% Hungarian + 9.7% Adygei @ 2.43
5 90.5% Hungarian + 9.5% North_Ossetian @ 2.44
6 89.8% Hungarian + 10.2% Chechen @ 2.59
7 90.4% Hungarian + 9.6% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.63
8 92.3% Hungarian + 7.7% Abhkasian @ 2.67
9 91% Hungarian + 9% Ossetian @ 2.67
10 90.1% Hungarian + 9.9% Lezgin @ 2.72
11 92% Hungarian + 8% Georgian @ 2.74
12 88.8% Hungarian + 11.2% Nogay @ 2.75
13 92.9% Hungarian + 7.1% Makrani @ 2.79
14 89.9% Hungarian + 10.1% Tadjik @ 2.8
15 93.2% Hungarian + 6.8% Brahui @ 2.8
16 91.2% Hungarian + 8.8% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.8
17 93.1% Hungarian + 6.9% Balochi @ 2.84
18 90% Hungarian + 10% Tabassaran @ 2.85
19 82.8% Moldavian + 17.2% North_German @ 2.87
20 90.4% Hungarian + 9.6% Turkmen @ 2.87

mixed pop is interesting in his case

Magyar + kavkaz, south and central asian populations is pretty exotic

just LOL at him saying he's 10% north caucasian when n.caucasians dont score more than 3% s.asian(adygea 2.79 ossetian 2.74)even if he was half n.caucasian he wouldnt score 2% s.asian like he does. again I've made it clear here why he scores s.asian aswell as other non-euro components, he has a gypsy ancestor somewhere.

[Turul Karom]

here's his eurogenes k13 (best test out there i guess)


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.21
2 North_Atlantic 28.17
3 West_Med 12.89
4 West_Asian 10.93
5 East_Med 10.61
6 South_Asian 2.03
7 Siberian 1.9
8 Red_Sea 0.78
9 Amerindian 0.76
10 Northeast_African 0.47
11 East_Asian 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.71
2 Hungarian 5.03
3 Croatian 5.79
4 Serbian 6.89
5 Austrian 9.23
6 East_German 9.98
7 Romanian 10.29
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.15
9 South_Polish 11.41
10 Ukrainian 12.54
11 Bulgarian 12.86
12 Polish 15.15
13 Southwest_Russian 15.81
14 West_German 15.85
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.87
16 South_Dutch 17.35
17 Russian_Smolensk 17.42
18 Estonian_Polish 18.15
19 North_German 18.23
20 Belorussian 18.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.6% Hungarian + 10.4% Kabardin @ 2.3
2 90% Hungarian + 10% Balkar @ 2.4
3 89.4% Hungarian + 10.6% Kumyk @ 2.43
4 90.3% Hungarian + 9.7% Adygei @ 2.43
5 90.5% Hungarian + 9.5% North_Ossetian @ 2.44
6 89.8% Hungarian + 10.2% Chechen @ 2.59
7 90.4% Hungarian + 9.6% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.63
8 92.3% Hungarian + 7.7% Abhkasian @ 2.67
9 91% Hungarian + 9% Ossetian @ 2.67
10 90.1% Hungarian + 9.9% Lezgin @ 2.72
11 92% Hungarian + 8% Georgian @ 2.74
12 88.8% Hungarian + 11.2% Nogay @ 2.75
13 92.9% Hungarian + 7.1% Makrani @ 2.79
14 89.9% Hungarian + 10.1% Tadjik @ 2.8
15 93.2% Hungarian + 6.8% Brahui @ 2.8
16 91.2% Hungarian + 8.8% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.8
17 93.1% Hungarian + 6.9% Balochi @ 2.84
18 90% Hungarian + 10% Tabassaran @ 2.85
19 82.8% Moldavian + 17.2% North_German @ 2.87
20 90.4% Hungarian + 9.6% Turkmen @ 2.87

mixed pop is interesting in his case

Magyar + kavkaz, south and central asian populations is pretty exotic

LOTS of other Turkic populations in the mixed mode.

[TheMaestro]

LOTS of other Turkic populations in the mixed mode.

Maybe you've found the real Turkic Magyar in the end.

[Blondie]

He looks much whiter than his genetics, probably that's where his arrogance is coming from. I would guess he's German

Pls don't insult germans :cool:

[Jana]

He's done 23andme already I've heard; just refuses to post it, wonder why.

Stears never tested with 23andme. But we are open for donations if people are interested

[Jana]

Ironically most gypsies in Romania live in "Szkelyland"

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Romi_%28tigani%29_Romania_2002.png/1200px-Romi_%28tigani%29_Romania_2002.png

No they don't. This shows highest Gypsy concentration in former Saxon counties Brasov and other.
Covasna and Hargita have almost no Gypsies, and 90% of Szekely live there.

[Jana]

I won't go into discussion with IncelSlayer sock no. 1000, but Gypsy admixture of Stears is fake news. It simply isn't true. And it would be funny if it was, because I like exotic admixtures in secret.
For me it would be pretty cool because I don't hate Gypsies at all.

I didn't contact Gypsy expert on Anthrogenica, he contacted me after I posted Stears results because he noticed his South Asian score. Than he asked he does he have Gypsy blood and I said I don't know.
Than he asked me to check his raw data if I allow.

I send him his raw data and he is 0% Gypsy, out of few thousand Romanian, Hungarian and other European Gypsies in his database he doesn't match closely with ANY of them, and that would be impossible if he was part Gypsy because Gypsies are pretty inbred and recent Gypsy ancestry would get him hundreds of matches.

Another lie is that Hungarians don't score south asian. Yes they do, most Hungarians tested on TA do score both minor siberian and indian, it usually comes togheder.
It comes from their steppe ancestry and that is what this ''Gypsy expert'' from Norway concluded upon looking his data.

Another innacurate thing is that Szekely are genetically same as Romanians. No they are not, but they are not same as Hungarians from Hungary either.
Most Skekely are close to Moldavians and Croats with extra steppe influx, but there also exist some who are much more western than that.

His Balkan admixture on the other hand is real. Probably ancient Dacian.

[Pribislav]

I won't go into discussion with IncelSlayer sock no. 1000, but Gypsy admixture of Stears is fake news. It simply isn't true. And it would be funny if it was, because I like exotic admixtures in secret.
For me it would be pretty cool because I don't hate Gypsies at all.

I didn't contact Gypsy expert on Anthrogenica, he contacted me after I posted Stears results because he noticed his South Asian score. Than he asked he does he have Gypsy blood and I said I don't know.
Than he asked me to check his raw data if I allow.

I send him his raw data and he is 0% Gypsy, out of few thousand Romanian, Hungarian and other European Gypsies in his database he doesn't match closely with ANY of them, and that would be impossible if he was part Gypsy because Gypsies are pretty inbred and recent Gypsy ancestry would get him hundreds of matches.

Another lie is that Hungarians don't score south asian. Yes they do, most Hungarians tested on TA do score both minor siberian and indian, it usually comes togheder.
It comes from their steppe ancestry and that is what this ''Gypsy expert'' from Norway concluded upon looking his data.

Another innacurate thing is that Szekely are genetically same as Romanians. No they are not, but they are not same as Hungarians from Hungary either.
Most Skekely are close to Moldavians and Croats with extra steppe influx, but there also exist some who are much more western than that.

His Balkan admixture on the other hand is real. Probably ancient Dacian.

^^^^

His Balkan admixture is from Vlachs. :lol:

[Jana]

^^^^

His Balkan admixture is from Vlachs. :lol:

Yes, I think so.
Hungarian from Vojvodina you recently posted is very good example of Szekely genetic profile, I saw several Szekely from Transylvania who have same scores like him.
they were settled there

Pretty different from regular Vojvodina Hungarians, who are much more central european than that.

[Pribislav]

Yes, I think so.
Hungarian from Vojvodina you recently posted is very good example of Szekely genetic profile, I saw several Szekely from Transylvania who have same scores like him.
they were settled there

Pretty different from regular Vojvodina Hungarians, who are much more central european than that.

Funny, there is no limit in Stears racism towards the Vlachs and he is Vlach influenced. :)

Obvious Szekelys were mixed with Vlachs/Romanians in the past.

[Oghuz]

Why is everyone targeting this one person ?

[Jana]

Why is everyone targeting this one person ?

He likes to troll, but many people trolling him back are no better example :(
At least I know Stears is very good man in real life, he wouldn't hurt anyone.

[Jana]

Funny, there is no limit in Stears racism towards the Vlachs and he is Vlach influenced. :)
Obvious Szekelys were mixed with Vlachs/Romanians in the past.

Mixing probably happened after their initial settlement to Transylvania (medieval). That could explain why he doesn't have Romanian dna relatives or surnames in his family tree.

[Oghuz]

He likes to troll, but many people trolling him back are no better example :(
At least I know Stears is very good man in real life, he wouldn't hurt anyone.

Yeah I noticed that in this thread everyone is targeting him. There must be some history to it.

Best wishes for the Gentleman!

[Izmir]

I won't go into discussion with IncelSlayer sock no. 1000, but Gypsy admixture of Stears is fake news. It simply isn't true. And it would be funny if it was, because I like exotic admixtures in secret.
For me it would be pretty cool because I don't hate Gypsies at all.

I didn't contact Gypsy expert on Anthrogenica, he contacted me after I posted Stears results because he noticed his South Asian score. Than he asked he does he have Gypsy blood and I said I don't know.
Than he asked me to check his raw data if I allow.

I send him his raw data and he is 0% Gypsy, out of few thousand Romanian, Hungarian and other European Gypsies in his database he doesn't match closely with ANY of them, and that would be impossible if he was part Gypsy because Gypsies are pretty inbred and recent Gypsy ancestry would get him hundreds of matches.

Another lie is that Hungarians don't score south asian. Yes they do, most Hungarians tested on TA do score both minor siberian and indian, it usually comes togheder.
It comes from their steppe ancestry and that is what this ''Gypsy expert'' from Norway concluded upon looking his data.

Another innacurate thing is that Szekely are genetically same as Romanians. No they are not, but they are not same as Hungarians from Hungary either.
Most Skekely are close to Moldavians and Croats with extra steppe influx, but there also exist some who are much more western than that.

His Balkan admixture on the other hand is real. Probably ancient Dacian.

He is a few percent gipsy yet you expected him to match closely after a few remote generations even, even if they found the exact same gipsy ancestors math tells us that after a few generations remote and those gipsy ancestors also being a few generations remote he would have same probably to score them as he would with their european side. Just LOL at "thousand romanian, hungarian and other european gipsies" when i can barely find any samples, or did he test them out of his own pocket?His admixture is normal gipsy like, the + X% north caucasian is just because both south asian, east asian, siberian, mena are east pullers, same as Mortimer plots between georgia and cyprus despite like 15% south asian,in reality we can all put the north caucasian theory to thrash, especially considering that he says he knows all his ancestors from 300 years ago therefore whoever gave him the gipsy mixture had hungarian name.
Now here's the average south asian for some countries: hungary 0.83(3 if you add amerindian,east asian and african), tatar 2.63 romanian 0.55(keep in mind there are a few gypsy samples in romanian average from eurogenes , maybe in other balkan countries and hungary aswell), meanwhile Stears is 6% non-white with 2% south asian LMFAO.Stears is about 6% nonwhite on gedmatch k13, about same on ftdna and for sure would score a few percent on 23andme, its obvious what he has is recent and gipsy is the best candidate given about half of is is south asian.

[Pribislav]

Mixing probably happened after their initial settlement to Transylvania (medieval). That could explain why he doesn't have Romanian dna relatives or surnames in his family tree.

Problem with Szekelys is to determine when they settled to Transylvania. There is various theories about origin of proto-Szekelys. From Hunic and Avar leftovers to the separate Turkic people and Hungarians who moved from Pannonia on Carpathians in 11th century to be border guards towards the Cumans and Pechenegs who were in Moldova and Wallachia.
It's not same if proto-Szekelys are in Transylvania from 5th or 6th century or from 11th century. Even if they arrived to Transylvania in 11th century there was no or very few Vlachs in that time in Transylvania. Vlachs in larger number in Transylvania are since late middle age and probably in that period Szekelys assimilated some Vlachs.

[Jana]

He is a few percent gipsy yet you expected him to match closely after a few remote generations even, even if they found the exact same gipsy ancestors math tells us that after a few generations remote and those gipsy ancestors also being a few generations remote he would have same probably to score them as he would with their european side. Just LOL at "thousand romanian, hungarian and other european gipsies" when i can barely find any samples, or did he test them out of his own pocket?His admixture is normal gipsy like, the + X% north caucasian is just because both south asian, east asian, siberian, mena are east pullers, same as Mortimer plots between georgia and cyprus despite like 15% south asian,in reality we can all put the north caucasian theory to thrash, especially considering that he says he knows all his ancestors from 300 years ago therefore whoever gave him the gipsy mixture had hungarian name.
Now here's the average south asian for some countries: hungary 0.83(3 if you add amerindian,east asian and african), tatar 2.63 romanian 0.55(keep in mind there are a few gypsy samples in romanian average from eurogenes , maybe in other balkan countries and hungary aswell), meanwhile Stears is 6% non-white with 2% south asian LMFAO.Stears is about 6% nonwhite on gedmatch k13, about same on ftdna and for sure would score a few percent on 23andme, its obvious what he has is recent and gipsy is the best candidate given about half of is is south asian.

Dear, I think you are trying to lead discussion in Gypsy direction not to discuss how he is more native Dacian than you, hence he has more right to Transylvania.
You are romanised Slavic, and more Slavic even than us southern slavs who are on high end of slavic influence.

Go back to Pripyat Marshes Ivan, Stears is more native to Erdely than you!!!

[Jana]

Problem with Szekelys is to determine when they settled to Transylvania. There is various theories about origin of proto-Szekelys. From Hunic and Avar leftovers to the separate Turkic people and Hungarians who moved from Pannonia on Carpathians in 11th century to be border guards towards the Cumans and Pechenegs who were in Moldova and Wallachia.
It's not same if proto-Szekelys are in Transylvania from 5th or 6th century or from 11th century. Even if they arrived to Transylvania in 11th century there was no or very few Vlachs in that time in Transylvania. Vlachs in larger number in Transylvania are since late middle age and probably in that period Szekelys assimilated some Vlachs.

Most consider they moved to Transylvania in late medieval as border guards. Stears don't believe they settled before than but I don't know enough about topic to comment.
Liguistic evidence point to western Transdanubian origin od Szekely , that is what I read at least.

Their language lacks Turkic substratum.

[Jana]

ccording to most linguists and several historians, the Székelys did not change their language, because they speak the Hungarian language "without any trace of a Turkic substratum". Linguist Lóránd Benkő asserted that the Székely dialects are closely connected to Hungarian dialects spoken along the borders of the medieval Kingdom of Hungary. Consequently, he proposed that the Székelys were descended from the military guardians of the frontiers. Their military role secured their special privileges, contributing to the development of their own consciousness

The three main dialects of their tongue indicate that the Székelys' ancestors lived along the western frontiers. The Székelys who now live along the rivers Nyárád and Kis-Küküllő (Niraj and Târnava Mică, respectively in Romania) speak a dialect similar to the tongue of the Hungarian communities near Pressburg (now Bratislava in Slovakia). The dialect of Udvarhelyszék is closely related to the Hungarian variant spoken in Burgenland (now in Austria). The third Hungarian variant of the Székely Land is similar to the Hungarian dialect of Baranya County

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Sz%C3%A9kely_people

[Izmir]

Dear, I think you are trying to lead discussion in Gypsy direction not to discuss how he is more native Dacian than you, hence he has more right to Transylvania.
You are romanised Slavic, and more Slavic even than us southern slavs who are on high end of slavic influence.

Go back to Pripyat Marshes Ivan, Stears is more native to Erdely than you!!!

I barely have any subhuman slavshit admixture(eastern slavic) , i am not eastern shifted, just a little bit less southern shifted, my non-balkanic admixture is mostly baltic besides in your crorat brain it seems that I have found a way to cheat the commercial tests and analyzers like 23andme,dnaland which show 0 slavic etc

Lol at thinking native dacians plotted with balkanites when they were not even balkanite

[Jana]

I barely have any subhuman slavshit admixture(eastern slavic) , i am not eastern shifted, just a little bit less southern shifted, my non-balkanic admixture is mostly baltic besides in your crorat brain it seems that I have found a way to cheat the commercial tests and analyzers like 23andme,dnaland which show 0 slavic etc

Lol at thinking native dacians plotted with balkanites when they were not even balkanite

They were Balkanite ethnically and liguistically, subset of Thracians and cousins of Illyrians. And that is why modern Romanians plot unusually south for their geographic location. Their native Dacian blood.
On DNA Land you score over 50% North Slavic, who are you fooling ? :)

23andme shows only last 300 years ancestry, it is nothing. And there your east europe is big.

You are genetically western Ukrainian, dear. More Balkan than pure Slavs in Polesia but much more Slavic than even north Romanians except those who are recently assimilated.
Slavic is by far your most dominant ancestry.

Dacians were not very Baltic, you will see when we get their samples.

[Pribislav]

ccording to most linguists and several historians, the Székelys did not change their language, because they speak the Hungarian language "without any trace of a Turkic substratum". Linguist Lóránd Benkő asserted that the Székely dialects are closely connected to Hungarian dialects spoken along the borders of the medieval Kingdom of Hungary. Consequently, he proposed that the Székelys were descended from the military guardians of the frontiers. Their military role secured their special privileges, contributing to the development of their own consciousness

The three main dialects of their tongue indicate that the Székelys' ancestors lived along the western frontiers. The Székelys who now live along the rivers Nyárád and Kis-Küküllő (Niraj and Târnava Mică, respectively in Romania) speak a dialect similar to the tongue of the Hungarian communities near Pressburg (now Bratislava in Slovakia). The dialect of Udvarhelyszék is closely related to the Hungarian variant spoken in Burgenland (now in Austria). The third Hungarian variant of the Székely Land is similar to the Hungarian dialect of Baranya County

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Sz%C3%A9kely_people

But Hungarian is Turkic influenced.

For example Barley:
Hungarian - Árpa https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Árpa_(növényfaj)
Turkish - Arpa https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpa
Uzbek - Arpa https://uz.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpa

Or Appple:
Hungarian - Alma
Kazakh - Alma
Turkish - Elma
Azeri - Alma
https://opusteno.rs/slike/2013/11/kako-se-pojedine-reci-pisu-20490/reci-mapa-evrope-3.jpg


Hungarian language has 9.5% words of Turkic origin.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-06cc596ff150acc5bb88c934b42a0fb3

[Izmir]

They were Balkanite ethnically and liguistically, subset of Thracians and cousins of Illyrians. And that is why modern Romanians plot unusually south for their geographic location. Their native Dacian blood.


Those are just myth's, dacians were the eastern branch of Hallstatt culture.



On DNA Land you score over 50% North Slavic, who are you fooling ? :)


North "Slavic" samples there are mostly Baltic,peaks in Estonians.



23andme shows only last 300 years ancestry, it is nothing. And there your east europe is big.


So I don't have any slavshit admixture in the last 300 years, which is all that matters.Thanks for agreeing with me.

Also i dont know from were you'll get dacian samples, given they cremated their ancestors(a not so balkanite ritual unlike thracians and illyrians burial mounds).

[Jana]

But Hungarian is Turkic influenced.

For example Barley:
Hungarian - Árpa https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Árpa_(növényfaj)
Turkish - Arpa https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpa
Uzbek - Arpa https://uz.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpa

Or Appple:
Hungarian - Alma
Kazakh - Alma
Turkish - Elma
Azeri - Alma
https://opusteno.rs/slike/2013/11/kako-se-pojedine-reci-pisu-20490/reci-mapa-evrope-3.jpg


Hungarian language has 9.5% words of Turkic origin.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-06cc596ff150acc5bb88c934b42a0fb3

I think they meant it isn't any more Turkic influenced compared to regular Hungarian spoken in Hungary. Szekely were Hungarian speakers when they arrived to Transylvania.

[Jana]

Those are just myth's, dacians were the eastern branch of Hallstatt culture.



North "Slavic" samples there are mostly Baltic,peaks in Estonians.



So I don't have any slavshit admixture in the last 300 years, which is all that matters.Thanks for agreeing with me.

Also i dont know from were you'll get dacian samples, given they cremated their ancestors(a not so balkanite ritual unlike thracians and illyrians burial mounds).

Very funny!

Bye bye troll!

[Izmir]

Very funny!

Bye bye troll!

Yugo, you are defeated. It is the result of your low class origin, that prevent you from being good debatant.You are simple proletarian, who only finished vocational secondary school.

[TheMaestro]

Yugo, you are defeated. It is the result of your low class origin, that prevent you from being good debatant.You are simple proletarian, who only finished vocational secondary school.

Incelslayer? :D

[Marmara]

Incelslayer? :D

Yes. He found out Turko-Albanians never get banned, he is practically untouchable now.

[Luke35]

I won't go into discussion with IncelSlayer sock no. 1000, but Gypsy admixture of Stears is fake news. It simply isn't true. And it would be funny if it was, because I like exotic admixtures in secret.
For me it would be pretty cool because I don't hate Gypsies at all.

I didn't contact Gypsy expert on Anthrogenica, he contacted me after I posted Stears results because he noticed his South Asian score. Than he asked he does he have Gypsy blood and I said I don't know.
Than he asked me to check his raw data if I allow.

I send him his raw data and he is 0% Gypsy, out of few thousand Romanian, Hungarian and other European Gypsies in his database he doesn't match closely with ANY of them, and that would be impossible if he was part Gypsy because Gypsies are pretty inbred and recent Gypsy ancestry would get him hundreds of matches.

Another lie is that Hungarians don't score south asian. Yes they do, most Hungarians tested on TA do score both minor siberian and indian, it usually comes togheder.
It comes from their steppe ancestry and that is what this ''Gypsy expert'' from Norway concluded upon looking his data.

Another innacurate thing is that Szekely are genetically same as Romanians. No they are not, but they are not same as Hungarians from Hungary either.
Most Skekely are close to Moldavians and Croats with extra steppe influx, but there also exist some who are much more western than that.

His Balkan admixture on the other hand is real. Probably ancient Dacian.

Great analysis by Jana. My South Asian, Red Sea, Siberian, and Ameridian all increase slightly relative to my non-Hungarian mother - old Maygars are whispering.

[TheMaestro]

Yes. He found out Turko-Albanians never get banned, he is practically untouchable now.

True, basically TA ambassador.

[Nurzat]

I may be related to Stears through our shared Gypsy ancestry xD my results:

now seriously, MyHeritage is useless - I don't score South Asian on most GedMATCH runs at all and I score zero South Asian on 23andme as well; MyHeritage seems to assign Ashkenazi + one exotic component to many users just for fun.

otherwise, we could get some via steppe Turkic, that carries a few % of this

63.7 Balkan
27.2 Eastern Euro
4.1 Scandinavia
2.5 Ashkenazi
2.5 South Asia
0 South Europe

Європа 97,5%
|
Східна Європа 90,9%
Балкани 63,7%
Східна Європа 27,2%
|
Північна та Західна Європа 4,1%
Скандинавія 4,1%
|
Євреї Ашкеназі 2,5%
|
Південна Європа 0,0%

Азія 2,5%
|
Південна Азія 2,5%


btw the Ukrainian guy (Verka Serduchka) at Eurovision scored high Balkan as well, 41.2%


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vfe0cMTuLI

[Pansarkamrat]

I may be related to Stears through our shared Gypsy ancestry xD my results:

now seriously, MyHeritage is useless - I don't score South Asian on most GedMATCH runs at all and I score zero South Asian on 23andme as well; MyHeritage seems to assign Ashkenazi + one exotic component to many users just for fun.

otherwise, we could get some via steppe Turkic, that carries a few % of this

63.7 Balkan
27.2 Eastern Euro
4.1 Scandinavia
2.5 Ashkenazi
2.5 South Asia
0 South Europe

Європа 97,5%
|
Східна Європа 90,9%
Балкани 63,7%
Східна Європа 27,2%
|
Північна та Західна Європа 4,1%
Скандинавія 4,1%
|
Євреї Ашкеназі 2,5%
|
Південна Європа 0,0%

Азія 2,5%
|
Південна Азія 2,5%

Have you Gypsy ancestry? I dont Think you look gypsy.

[Nurzat]

Have you Gypsy ancestry? I dont Think you look gypsy.

I don't score South Asian anywhere else, as I was saying. except for those runs where many score some residual, like 1%, even Norwegians, it's ancient common DNA from Basal Eurasian probably. I don't have any Gypsy ancestry and I doubt Stears has or that MyHeritage reads correctly

[Nurzat]

Have you Gypsy ancestry? I dont Think you look gypsy.

my result from another company or the old version of MyHeritage, I don't remember (weird algorithms on both these two calcs, this second one doesn't read any non-Euro, though I usually score Siberian/East Asian at least 3%, at most 5-6%):

https://scontent.fsbz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22196287_10208423388542140_3457351708597735764_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent.fsbz1-1.fna&oh=12d8a587c98601b723db2b8c975f64f7&oe=5D94E9F8

[Pansarkamrat]

my result from another company or the old version of MyHeritage, I don't remember (weird algorithms on both these two calcs, this second one doesn't read any non-Euro, though I usually score Siberian/East Asian at least 3%, at most 5-6%):

https://scontent.fsbz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22196287_10208423388542140_3457351708597735764_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent.fsbz1-1.fna&oh=12d8a587c98601b723db2b8c975f64f7&oe=5D94E9F8

Intressting.

[Zmey Gorynych]

The truly "interesting" thing about this thread is not even Stears' gypsy/alleged gypsy ancestry but the fact that he sent his girlfriend to defend him. That is if he or she or both of them are actually real.

[Adam Janossy]

The only worth result is test I paid for, not the game calculators and other amateur things. No balkanite, no gypsy, mongoloid etc. And don't forget, Ancestry DNA don't have Central European group. I match Central European Western Christian countries Czech republic Poland slovakia and the Lithuania.
Deal with it!
http://oi66.tinypic.com/2dhwabs.jpg

Ancestry DNA use genetic community in sense of the IBD sharing. So it means I share ancestry only with people from these countries.

[Bosniensis]

"Central European"

An excuse that wanna be Western European Slavs use.

When Slav can't fit in Western Europe (and he hates Eastern Europe) he says I am "Central European"

hahahhaha

[Cumansky]

"Central European"

An excuse that wanna be Western European Slavs use.

When Slav can't fit in Western Europe (and he hates Eastern Europe) he says I am "Central European"

hahahhaha

+1

I will confirm why this is true, as someone with a direct lineage from Central European noble house, "House of Dragos" I can technically call myself "Central European" if I want to. But never in my life I have even thought of referring to myself "Central European" or anything other than Eastern European because "Central European" in a modern sense is referring to those lost Germans like Steers Janossy, who people were direct enemy of my ancestors.

[Adam Janossy]

"Central European"

An excuse that wanna be Western European Slavs use.

When Slav can't fit in Western Europe (and he hates Eastern Europe) he says I am "Central European"

hahahhaha

Wrong. Germans Austrians Swiss also use Central Europe term to designate their countries. Just look German Encyclopedia Brockhaus

[Voskos]

He was a superior so he migrated up north.

[Adam Janossy]

+1

I will confirm why this is true, as someone with a direct lineage from Central European noble house, "House of Dragos" I can technically call myself "Central European" if I want to. But never in my life I have even thought of referring to myself "Central European" or anything other than Eastern European because "Central European" in a modern sense is referring to those lost Germans like Steers Janossy, who people were direct enemy of my ancestors.

Neo cuman minority boy, learn history: Cumans Mongols Turks were the direct enemy of Hungarians. It is a historical fact. Highest genocides against Hungarians were commited by them in Hungary.

[Ford]

my result from another company or the old version of MyHeritage, I don't remember (weird algorithms on both these two calcs, this second one doesn't read any non-Euro, though I usually score Siberian/East Asian at least 3%, at most 5-6%):

https://scontent.fsbz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22196287_10208423388542140_3457351708597735764_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent.fsbz1-1.fna&oh=12d8a587c98601b723db2b8c975f64f7&oe=5D94E9F8

lol I remember that site. It's called Gencove and from what I know they stopped offering DNA uploads a while back and have turned to full genome testing. My results were weird as fuck.
https://i.imgur.com/wAjRFT3.png

And my updated results there
https://i.imgur.com/NIN6kkM.png

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

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[Seya]

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Stears

[Seya]

Leave my vlach alone. He’s banned

[dududud]

Gedmatch.