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Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 07:26 PM
For brief information, Ubyhks were one of the most important factions in Circassian confederation native to Sochi area. Their language is related to both Abhkaz and Circassian both rather unique, famous for its 84 phonemic consonants. Sadly their language died after all of them wiped out from Caucasus by Russian Empire.

Eugenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 40.72
2 Baltic 17.98
3 East_Med 14.32
4 West_Med 9.71
5 North_Atlantic 8.58
6 Siberian 3.47
7 East_Asian 3.00
8 South_Asian 1.05


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kabardin @ 7.300365
2 Kumyk @ 8.400516
3 Balkar @ 9.039523
4 Chechen @ 9.262992
5 Adygei @ 10.144007
6 North_Ossetian @ 10.805296
7 Lezgin @ 11.714148
8 Tabassaran @ 13.237004
9 Ossetian @ 13.808578
10 Nogay @ 17.762131
11 Georgian @ 19.814222
12 Turkmen @ 21.389162
13 Abhkasian @ 22.256439
14 Azeri @ 22.311012
15 Tadjik @ 23.072454
16 Turkish @ 23.375341
17 Kurdish @ 24.055077
18 Afghan_Tadjik @ 24.766497
19 Iranian @ 25.814375
20 Afghan_Pashtun @ 28.275488

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kabardin +50% Kumyk @ 7.075888


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Abhkasian +25% Balkar +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.687275


MDLP K23b
MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 44.62
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 19.18
3 South_Central_Asian 15.32
4 European_Early_Farmers 5.17
5 Ancestral_Altaic 4.33
6 East_Siberian 3.01
7 South_East_Asian 2.48
8 Tungus-Altaic 1.46
9 Near_East 1.25


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kabardin_ @ 9.420859
2 Kumyk_ @ 10.063104
3 Cirkassian_ @ 10.926271
4 Adygei_ @ 11.762958
5 Chechen_ @ 11.868428
6 Balkar_ @ 12.183793
7 Circassian_ @ 12.578872
8 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ @ 13.078064
9 Stalskoe_Kumyk_ @ 13.291589
10 Turk_Istanbul_ @ 13.302825
11 North_Ossetian_ @ 13.422471
12 Azov_Greek_ @ 13.611896
13 Tabassaran_ @ 14.394229
14 Avar_ @ 15.271493
15 Turk_Aydin_ @ 15.350214
16 Lezgin_ @ 15.395500
17 Lak_ @ 15.648861
18 Ossetian_ @ 15.779134
19 Turk_ @ 15.971079
20 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 16.285347

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Georgian_Imereti_ +50% Tatar-Mishar_ @ 3.845375


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cirkassian_ +25% Georgian_Megrelia_ +25% Russian-North_ @ 2.688890


puntDNAL K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 35.25
2 NE_Europe 23.56
3 SW_Europe 22.97
4 SW_Asia 7.47
5 Siberia 3.62
6 NE_Asia 2.59
7 SE_Asia 1.31
8 South_Asia 1.25


Finished reading population data. 191 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kumyk @ 6.297691
2 Balkar @ 9.342258
3 Chechen @ 10.010692
4 Adygei @ 10.207455
5 Turkish_Aydin @ 11.883920
6 Ossetian @ 12.844000
7 Dagestan_Azeri @ 13.362686
8 Turkish @ 14.595355
9 Nogay @ 15.023436
10 Turkish_Kayseri @ 16.726505
11 Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 17.218061
12 Abkhasian @ 17.678165
13 Tadjik @ 18.437906
14 Greek_Central @ 18.784306
15 Kurdish @ 20.724731
16 Greek_Thessaly @ 21.552254
17 Ashkenazy_Jew @ 21.839968
18 Iranian @ 22.138651
19 Albanian @ 22.187950
20 Kosovar @ 22.216511

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Chechen +50% Turkish_Aydin @ 6.045225


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Chechen +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Nogay @ 1.733583

Not a Cop
06-16-2019, 07:29 PM
For brief information, Ubyhks were one of the most important factions in Circassian confederation native to Sochi area. Their language is related to both Abhkaz and Circassian both rather unique, famous for its 84 phonemic consonants. Sadly their language died after all of them wiped out from Caucasus by Russian Empire.

Eugenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 40.72
2 Baltic 17.98
3 East_Med 14.32
4 West_Med 9.71
5 North_Atlantic 8.58
6 Siberian 3.47
7 East_Asian 3.00
8 South_Asian 1.05


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kabardin @ 7.300365
2 Kumyk @ 8.400516
3 Balkar @ 9.039523
4 Chechen @ 9.262992
5 Adygei @ 10.144007
6 North_Ossetian @ 10.805296
7 Lezgin @ 11.714148
8 Tabassaran @ 13.237004
9 Ossetian @ 13.808578
10 Nogay @ 17.762131
11 Georgian @ 19.814222
12 Turkmen @ 21.389162
13 Abhkasian @ 22.256439
14 Azeri @ 22.311012
15 Tadjik @ 23.072454
16 Turkish @ 23.375341
17 Kurdish @ 24.055077
18 Afghan_Tadjik @ 24.766497
19 Iranian @ 25.814375
20 Afghan_Pashtun @ 28.275488

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kabardin +50% Kumyk @ 7.075888


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Abhkasian +25% Balkar +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.687275


MDLP K23b
MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 44.62
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 19.18
3 South_Central_Asian 15.32
4 European_Early_Farmers 5.17
5 Ancestral_Altaic 4.33
6 East_Siberian 3.01
7 South_East_Asian 2.48
8 Tungus-Altaic 1.46
9 Near_East 1.25


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kabardin_ @ 9.420859
2 Kumyk_ @ 10.063104
3 Cirkassian_ @ 10.926271
4 Adygei_ @ 11.762958
5 Chechen_ @ 11.868428
6 Balkar_ @ 12.183793
7 Circassian_ @ 12.578872
8 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ @ 13.078064
9 Stalskoe_Kumyk_ @ 13.291589
10 Turk_Istanbul_ @ 13.302825
11 North_Ossetian_ @ 13.422471
12 Azov_Greek_ @ 13.611896
13 Tabassaran_ @ 14.394229
14 Avar_ @ 15.271493
15 Turk_Aydin_ @ 15.350214
16 Lezgin_ @ 15.395500
17 Lak_ @ 15.648861
18 Ossetian_ @ 15.779134
19 Turk_ @ 15.971079
20 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 16.285347

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Georgian_Imereti_ +50% Tatar-Mishar_ @ 3.845375


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cirkassian_ +25% Georgian_Megrelia_ +25% Russian-North_ @ 2.688890


puntDNAL K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 35.25
2 NE_Europe 23.56
3 SW_Europe 22.97
4 SW_Asia 7.47
5 Siberia 3.62
6 NE_Asia 2.59
7 SE_Asia 1.31
8 South_Asia 1.25


Finished reading population data. 191 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kumyk @ 6.297691
2 Balkar @ 9.342258
3 Chechen @ 10.010692
4 Adygei @ 10.207455
5 Turkish_Aydin @ 11.883920
6 Ossetian @ 12.844000
7 Dagestan_Azeri @ 13.362686
8 Turkish @ 14.595355
9 Nogay @ 15.023436
10 Turkish_Kayseri @ 16.726505
11 Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 17.218061
12 Abkhasian @ 17.678165
13 Tadjik @ 18.437906
14 Greek_Central @ 18.784306
15 Kurdish @ 20.724731
16 Greek_Thessaly @ 21.552254
17 Ashkenazy_Jew @ 21.839968
18 Iranian @ 22.138651
19 Albanian @ 22.187950
20 Kosovar @ 22.216511

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Chechen +50% Turkish_Aydin @ 6.045225


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Chechen +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Nogay @ 1.733583


Why do you get 1/4 Russian? Any known ancestry? Any similar results from commercial company?

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 07:32 PM
Why do you get 1/4 Russian? Any known ancestry? Any similar results from commercial company?

He has high Baltic only and from Ubykh nobility. I saw far exotic North Caucasian results.

Leto
06-16-2019, 07:53 PM
Post all components for K13 and also Dodecad K12b please.

Leto
06-16-2019, 07:55 PM
He has high Baltic only and from Ubykh nobility. I saw far exotic North Caucasian results.
I think he may have additional European admixture. Were his parents and grandparents born in Turkey?

War Chef
06-16-2019, 07:57 PM
Very cool. Is this some guy you know personally who lives in a Turkish village?

The Ubykhs were the most war-like of the Adygei tribes. Excellent horse-riders.

Some were saying their language had clues to Proto-Indo-European substrate lexicon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontic_languages

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 08:00 PM
I do not have further information about his heritage sadly except being from Ubykh nobility living in Turkey.

Leto
06-16-2019, 08:02 PM
Faced with the threat of subjugation by the Russian army, the Ubykh, as well as other Muslim peoples of Caucasus, left their homeland en masse beginning on 6 March 1864. By May 21, the entire Ubykh nation had departed from the Caucasus. They eventually settled in a number of villages in western Turkey around the municipality of Manyas.

In order to avoid discrimination, the Ubykh elders encouraged their people to assimilate into Turkish culture. Having abandoned their traditional nomadic culture, they became a nation of farmers. The Ubykh language was rapidly displaced by Turkish and other Circassian dialects; the last native speaker of Ubykh, Tevfik Esenç, died in 1992.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubykh_people

150+ years of living in Turkey and still no Turkish admixture? That's interesting.

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 08:05 PM
Post all components for K13 and also Dodecad K12b please.

Dodecad K12b
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.77
2 North_European 26.38
3 Gedrosia 14.13
4 Atlantic_Med 7.62
5 East_Asian 3.60
6 Siberian 3.00
7 Southwest_Asian 2.45


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 11.251862
2 Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 14.383369
3 Chechens_Yunusbayev @ 14.715846
4 Lezgins_Behar @ 16.502344
5 Adygei_HGDP @ 16.787205
6 Balkars_Yunusbayev @ 17.209330
7 North_Ossetians_Yunusbayev @ 17.777891
8 Turkish_Dodecad @ 19.730373
9 Turks_Behar @ 19.888824
10 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 25.317936
11 Greek_Dodecad @ 26.053909
12 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 26.548836
13 Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 27.159899
14 Romanians_Behar @ 27.270254
15 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 27.307318
16 Iranian_Dodecad @ 27.624254
17 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 27.645279
18 Kurd_Dodecad @ 28.158684
19 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 28.408012
20 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 29.115396

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian_Dodecad +50% North_Ossetians_Yunusbayev @ 6.388286

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 08:08 PM
Faced with the threat of subjugation by the Russian army, the Ubykh, as well as other Muslim peoples of Caucasus, left their homeland en masse beginning on 6 March 1864. By May 21, the entire Ubykh nation had departed from the Caucasus. They eventually settled in a number of villages in western Turkey around the municipality of Manyas.

In order to avoid discrimination, the Ubykh elders encouraged their people to assimilate into Turkish culture. Having abandoned their traditional nomadic culture, they became a nation of farmers. The Ubykh language was rapidly displaced by Turkish and other Circassian dialects; the last native speaker of Ubykh, Tevfik Esenç, died in 1992.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubykh_people

150+ years of living in Turkey and still no Turkish admixture? That's interesting.

Many Circassians including me have this scenario actually. Only last two generations begin to mix with Turks heavily except for big cities.

Leto
06-16-2019, 08:08 PM
Dude, click Oracle, not Oracle-4 please.

War Chef
06-16-2019, 08:10 PM
Eurogenes K15 please ... It's the most accurate

Leto
06-16-2019, 08:11 PM
Many Circassians including me have this scenario actually. Only last two generations begin to mix with Turks heavily except for big cities.
Do you have no Turkish ancestry?

Leto
06-16-2019, 08:13 PM
2 North_European 26.38

4 Atlantic_Med 7.62

That's a lot of European for that kind of ethnic background.

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 08:14 PM
Dude, click Oracle, not Oracle-4 please.

I am a beginner on this shit.

Eugenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 45.51
2 Baltic 13.94
3 East_Med 13.01
4 West_Med 9.81
5 Siberian 6.41
6 North_Atlantic 4.09
7 South_Asian 2.75
8 Red_Sea 2.32
9 East_Asian 1.35
10 Amerindian 0.8

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kabardin 3.48
2 Balkar 4.7
3 North_Ossetian 5.32
4 Adygei 6.23
5 Kumyk 7.94
6 Ossetian 7.95
7 Chechen 8.9
8 Lezgin 11.32
9 Tabassaran 13.13
10 Georgian 13.64
11 Abhkasian 15.19
12 Nogay 18.19
13 Turkmen 18.98
14 Azeri 19.33
15 Kurdish 19.62
16 Tadjik 20.16
17 Afghan_Tadjik 20.95
18 Iranian 21.19
19 Turkish 21.2
20 Afghan_Pashtun 23.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.6% Kabardin + 1.4% Selkup @ 3.35
2 99% Kabardin + 1% Evens @ 3.37
3 98.7% Kabardin + 1.3% Ket @ 3.37
4 99% Kabardin + 1% Dolgan @ 3.38
5 99% Kabardin + 1% Evenki @ 3.38
6 99% Kabardin + 1% Yakut @ 3.39
7 99% Kabardin + 1% Koryak @ 3.4
8 99.1% Kabardin + 0.9% Chukchi @ 3.41
9 96.4% Kabardin + 3.6% Abhkasian @ 3.44
10 99.4% Kabardin + 0.6% Oroqen @ 3.44
11 99.4% Kabardin + 0.6% East_Greenlander @ 3.45
12 99.3% Kabardin + 0.7% Buryat @ 3.45
13 99.3% Kabardin + 0.7% Tuvinian @ 3.45
14 99.2% Kabardin + 0.8% Hakas @ 3.46
15 99.4% Kabardin + 0.6% West_Greenlander @ 3.46
16 99.3% Kabardin + 0.7% Shors @ 3.46
17 99.4% Kabardin + 0.6% Altaian @ 3.47
18 97.6% Kabardin + 2.4% Georgian @ 3.47
19 99.6% Kabardin + 0.4% MA-1 @ 3.48
20 99.2% Kabardin + 0.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.48


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.77
2 North_European 26.38
3 Gedrosia 14.13
4 Atlantic_Med 7.62
5 East_Asian 3.6
6 Siberian 3
7 Southwest_Asian 2.45
8 Southeast_Asian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 10.32
2 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 13.49
3 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 14.44
4 Adygei (HGDP) 15.13
5 Lezgins (Behar) 15.26
6 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 15.5
7 North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) 16.03
8 Turkish (Dodecad) 18.19
9 Turks (Behar) 18.33
10 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 23.29
11 Greek (Dodecad) 24.28
12 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 24.43
13 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 24.9
14 Romanians (Behar) 25.04
15 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 25.26
16 Iranian (Dodecad) 25.48
17 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 25.7
18 Kurd (Dodecad) 25.98
19 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 26.39
20 Armenians (Behar) 26.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.3% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 26.7% German (Dodecad) @ 2.79
2 77.2% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 22.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.89
3 76.8% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 23.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.91
4 77.5% Balkars (Yunusbayev) + 22.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.03
5 77.8% Balkars (Yunusbayev) + 22.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.06
6 70.3% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 29.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.11
7 74% Balkars (Yunusbayev) + 26% German (Dodecad) @ 3.13
8 75.5% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 24.5% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 3.34
9 71.1% Balkars (Yunusbayev) + 28.9% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.46
10 74.8% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 25.2% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 3.48
11 77.2% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 22.8% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 3.52
12 81.6% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 18.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.54
13 82.9% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 17.1% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.55
14 76.2% Balkars (Yunusbayev) + 23.8% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 3.59
15 76.9% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 23.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 3.65
16 77.3% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 22.7% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 3.65
17 76.9% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 23.1% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 3.65
18 77.9% Balkars (Yunusbayev) + 22.1% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 3.69
19 76.3% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 23.7% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.69
20 76.4% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 23.6% English (Dodecad) @ 3.7

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 08:15 PM
Do you have no Turkish ancestry?

%0.

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 08:16 PM
Eurogenes K15 please ... It's the most accurate

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 42.09
2 East_Med 11.01
3 Eastern_Euro 10.06
4 Baltic 9.15
5 North_Sea 8.03
6 Atlantic 7.15
7 West_Med 4.76
8 Siberian 2.78
9 Southeast_Asian 2.62
10 South_Asian 1.65
11 Amerindian 0.65
12 Sub-Saharan 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kabardin 5.71
2 Balkar 6.65
3 Kumyk 6.86
4 Chechen 7.51
5 Adygei 8.12
6 Lezgin 8.58
7 North_Ossetian 9.66
8 Ossetian 10.17
9 Tabassaran 11.16
10 Georgian 15.8
11 Nogay 17.72
12 Abhkasian 18.22
13 Turkmen 20.35
14 Azeri 21.34
15 Turkish 21.36
16 Tadjik 21.72
17 Kurdish 23
18 Iranian 23.99
19 Afghan_Tadjik 24.45
20 Armenian 24.72

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.8% Balkar + 13.2% South_Polish @ 2.78
2 87.5% Balkar + 12.5% Polish @ 2.8
3 86.6% Balkar + 13.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.81
4 87% Balkar + 13% Ukrainian @ 2.82
5 87.1% Balkar + 12.9% Southwest_Russian @ 2.86
6 87.9% Balkar + 12.1% Belorussian @ 2.9
7 87.2% Balkar + 12.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.91
8 80.1% Ossetian + 19.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.92
9 85.7% Balkar + 14.3% Croatian @ 2.92
10 86.7% Balkar + 13.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.93
11 87.9% Balkar + 12.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.95
12 80.6% Ossetian + 19.4% Southwest_Russian @ 2.97
13 84.8% Balkar + 15.2% Moldavian @ 2.97
14 87.2% Kabardin + 12.8% Moldavian @ 2.99
15 88.5% Balkar + 11.5% Lithuanian @ 3
16 88.5% Balkar + 11.5% Estonian @ 3.03
17 88.1% Kabardin + 11.9% Croatian @ 3.03
18 86.1% Balkar + 13.9% Hungarian @ 3.04
19 88.4% Kabardin + 11.6% Hungarian @ 3.05
20 89.3% Kabardin + 10.7% Ukrainian @ 3.09

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 08:16 PM
2 North_European 26.38

4 Atlantic_Med 7.62

That's a lot of European for that kind of ethnic background.

I always thought this region has the lowest EE and European-like mixtures.

War Chef
06-16-2019, 08:17 PM
Can you do Dodecad v3?
And compare to some north Caucasian populations here:
https://i.imgur.com/13oF9nZ.jpg

Leto
06-16-2019, 08:18 PM
I am a beginner on this shit.

Eugenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 45.51
2 Baltic 13.94
3 East_Med 13.01
4 West_Med 9.81
5 Siberian 6.41
6 North_Atlantic 4.09
7 South_Asian 2.75
8 Red_Sea 2.32
9 East_Asian 1.35
10 Amerindian 0.8

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kabardin 3.48
2 Balkar 4.7
3 North_Ossetian 5.32
4 Adygei 6.23
5 Kumyk 7.94
6 Ossetian 7.95
7 Chechen 8.9
8 Lezgin 11.32
9 Tabassaran 13.13
10 Georgian 13.64
11 Abhkasian 15.19
12 Nogay 18.19
13 Turkmen 18.98
14 Azeri 19.33
15 Kurdish 19.62
16 Tadjik 20.16
17 Afghan_Tadjik 20.95
18 Iranian 21.19
19 Turkish 21.2
20 Afghan_Pashtun 23.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.6% Kabardin + 1.4% Selkup @ 3.35
2 99% Kabardin + 1% Evens @ 3.37
3 98.7% Kabardin + 1.3% Ket @ 3.37
4 99% Kabardin + 1% Dolgan @ 3.38
5 99% Kabardin + 1% Evenki @ 3.38
6 99% Kabardin + 1% Yakut @ 3.39
7 99% Kabardin + 1% Koryak @ 3.4
8 99.1% Kabardin + 0.9% Chukchi @ 3.41
9 96.4% Kabardin + 3.6% Abhkasian @ 3.44
10 99.4% Kabardin + 0.6% Oroqen @ 3.44
11 99.4% Kabardin + 0.6% East_Greenlander @ 3.45
12 99.3% Kabardin + 0.7% Buryat @ 3.45
13 99.3% Kabardin + 0.7% Tuvinian @ 3.45
14 99.2% Kabardin + 0.8% Hakas @ 3.46
15 99.4% Kabardin + 0.6% West_Greenlander @ 3.46
16 99.3% Kabardin + 0.7% Shors @ 3.46
17 99.4% Kabardin + 0.6% Altaian @ 3.47
18 97.6% Kabardin + 2.4% Georgian @ 3.47
19 99.6% Kabardin + 0.4% MA-1 @ 3.48
20 99.2% Kabardin + 0.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.48


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.77
2 North_European 26.38
3 Gedrosia 14.13
4 Atlantic_Med 7.62
5 East_Asian 3.6
6 Siberian 3
7 Southwest_Asian 2.45
8 Southeast_Asian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 10.32
2 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 13.49
3 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 14.44
4 Adygei (HGDP) 15.13
5 Lezgins (Behar) 15.26
6 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 15.5
7 North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) 16.03
8 Turkish (Dodecad) 18.19
9 Turks (Behar) 18.33
10 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 23.29
11 Greek (Dodecad) 24.28
12 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 24.43
13 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 24.9
14 Romanians (Behar) 25.04
15 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 25.26
16 Iranian (Dodecad) 25.48
17 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 25.7
18 Kurd (Dodecad) 25.98
19 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 26.39
20 Armenians (Behar) 26.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.3% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 26.7% German (Dodecad) @ 2.79
2 77.2% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 22.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.89
3 76.8% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 23.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.91
4 77.5% Balkars (Yunusbayev) + 22.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.03
5 77.8% Balkars (Yunusbayev) + 22.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.06
6 70.3% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 29.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.11
7 74% Balkars (Yunusbayev) + 26% German (Dodecad) @ 3.13
8 75.5% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 24.5% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 3.34
9 71.1% Balkars (Yunusbayev) + 28.9% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.46
10 74.8% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 25.2% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 3.48
11 77.2% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 22.8% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 3.52
12 81.6% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 18.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.54
13 82.9% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 17.1% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.55
14 76.2% Balkars (Yunusbayev) + 23.8% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 3.59
15 76.9% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 23.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 3.65
16 77.3% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 22.7% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 3.65
17 76.9% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 23.1% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 3.65
18 77.9% Balkars (Yunusbayev) + 22.1% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 3.69
19 76.3% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 23.7% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.69
20 76.4% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 23.6% English (Dodecad) @ 3.7

I think the first one is a different person, not the one in the OP.

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 08:18 PM
Can you do Dodecad v3?
And compare to some north Caucasian populations here:
https://i.imgur.com/13oF9nZ.jpg

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 39.72
2 West_European 18.5
3 Mediterranean 15.85
4 East_European 13.88
5 Southwest_Asian 3.62
6 Northeast_Asian 3.47
7 South_Asian 2.67
8 Southeast_Asian 2.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Stalskoe (Xing) 7.5
2 Urkarah (Xing) 10.56
3 Turkish (Dodecad) 17.5
4 Turks (Behar) 17.57
5 Kurd (Dodecad) 18.18
6 Kurd (Xing) 19.4
7 Iranian (Dodecad) 19.4
8 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 21
9 Iranians (Behar) 22.18
10 Adygei (HGDP) 22.76
11 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 24.13
12 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 24.33
13 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 25.17
14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 25.28
15 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 26.48
16 Armenian (Dodecad) 27.08
17 Armenians_16 (Behar) 27.64
18 Lezgins (Behar) 27.87
19 Romanians_14 (Behar) 27.91
20 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 28.11

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.8% Adygei (HGDP) + 42.2% Balkans (Dodecad) @ 4.89
2 55.3% Adygei (HGDP) + 44.7% Romanians_14 (Behar) @ 5.13
3 65.2% Armenians_16 (Behar) + 34.8% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 5.23
4 75.3% Urkarah (Xing) + 24.7% Romanians_14 (Behar) @ 5.57
5 77.4% Urkarah (Xing) + 22.6% Balkans (Dodecad) @ 5.75
6 50% Romanians_14 (Behar) + 50% Lezgins (Behar) @ 5.83
7 91.8% Stalskoe (Xing) + 8.2% Belorussian (Behar) @ 5.97
8 92.9% Stalskoe (Xing) + 7.1% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 6.11
9 92.9% Stalskoe (Xing) + 7.1% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 6.19
10 92.5% Stalskoe (Xing) + 7.5% Russian (HGDP) @ 6.45
11 91.7% Stalskoe (Xing) + 8.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 6.46
12 61.4% Adygei (HGDP) + 38.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 6.46
13 92.1% Stalskoe (Xing) + 7.9% Chuvashs_16 (Behar) @ 6.5
14 89.1% Stalskoe (Xing) + 10.9% Balkans (Dodecad) @ 6.53
15 92.4% Stalskoe (Xing) + 7.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 6.56
16 88.5% Stalskoe (Xing) + 11.5% Romanians_14 (Behar) @ 6.63
17 75.7% Turks (Behar) + 24.3% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 6.65
18 77.8% Urkarah (Xing) + 22.2% Greek (Dodecad) @ 6.75
19 52.7% Lezgins (Behar) + 47.3% Balkans (Dodecad) @ 6.82
20 85.3% Stalskoe (Xing) + 14.7% Turks (Behar) @ 6.96

Leto
06-16-2019, 08:20 PM
I always thought this region has the lowest EE and European-like mixtures.
Northwest Caucasus? No, they have quite a bit of mongoloid, easily up to 10% if that's what you're trying to say.

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 08:21 PM
I think the first one is a different person, not the one in the OP.

Sorry. I mistake it with Kabardin sample.

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 40.72
2 Baltic 17.98
3 East_Med 14.32
4 West_Med 9.71
5 North_Atlantic 8.58
6 Siberian 3.47
7 East_Asian 3
8 South_Asian 1.05
9 Amerindian 0.83
10 Oceanian 0.25
11 Sub-Saharan 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kabardin 6.5
2 Kumyk 7.46
3 Balkar 8.02
4 Chechen 8.31
5 Adygei 8.94
6 North_Ossetian 9.46
7 Lezgin 10.5
8 Tabassaran 11.88
9 Ossetian 12.13
10 Nogay 17
11 Georgian 17.42
12 Turkmen 19.31
13 Abhkasian 19.43
14 Azeri 19.53
15 Turkish 20.39
16 Tadjik 20.64
17 Kurdish 21.15
18 Afghan_Tadjik 22.37
19 Iranian 22.79
20 Armenian 24.92

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.6% Balkar + 15.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.71
2 86.8% Balkar + 13.2% Lithuanian @ 2.82
3 78.8% North_Ossetian + 21.2% Moldavian @ 2.84
4 85% Balkar + 15% Southwest_Russian @ 2.86
5 82.2% North_Ossetian + 17.8% Ukrainian @ 2.89
6 85.7% Balkar + 14.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.94
7 80.4% North_Ossetian + 19.6% Croatian @ 2.94
8 86.1% Balkar + 13.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.97
9 86.2% Balkar + 13.8% Belorussian @ 2.99
10 81.8% North_Ossetian + 18.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.11
11 84.9% Balkar + 15.1% Ukrainian @ 3.14
12 85.8% Balkar + 14.2% Polish @ 3.18
13 82.6% North_Ossetian + 17.4% Southwest_Russian @ 3.18
14 85.5% Balkar + 14.5% Erzya @ 3.26
15 82.4% North_Ossetian + 17.6% South_Polish @ 3.26
16 82.3% North_Ossetian + 17.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.26
17 83.8% North_Ossetian + 16.2% Estonian_Polish @ 3.26
18 84.6% Balkar + 15.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.3
19 69.9% Abhkasian + 30.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.31
20 83.4% North_Ossetian + 16.6% Polish @ 3.35

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 08:21 PM
Northwest Caucasus? No, they have quite a bit of mongoloid, easily up to 10% if that's what you're trying to say.

But Sochi is the lowest point. I thought it's mostly free from Mongoloid expansion.

Leto
06-16-2019, 08:25 PM
But Sochi is the lowest point. I thought it's mostly free from Mongoloid expansion.
Sochi is a majority Russian city, so that means nothing. Some Northwest Caucasians are even Turkic speakers (Karachay-Balkar language). Kabardins and North Ossetians are genetically similar to them, just different language families. That Ubykh is around 7% East Eurasian.

Lucas
06-16-2019, 08:29 PM
Northwest Caucasus? No, they have quite a bit of mongoloid, easily up to 10% if that's what you're trying to say.

In K36 average of few Circassians from academic datasets had up to 4% combined Mong components (mainly Siberian). In phenotype could be not visible at all.

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 08:32 PM
In K36 average of few Circassians from academic datasets had up to 4% combined Mong components (mainly Siberian). In phenotype could be not visible at all.

visible in me.

Leto
06-16-2019, 08:36 PM
In K36 average of few Circassians from academic datasets had up to 4% combined Mong components (mainly Siberian). In phenotype could be not visible at all.
No one was talking about phenotypes. Those samples might be from Adyghea, they're less 'mong' from what I've seen on GEDmatch.

Judo fighter Beslan Mudranov is a Kabardin, very West Asian (swarthy and hairy)
https://ruspekh.ru/images/articles/26967/2015_07_07-04-01_000.jpg
http://cdn01.ru/files/users/images/5c/34/5c34a9a8f9546d25b01789f1ed5b8f0b.png

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 08:37 PM
No one was talking about phenotypes. Those samples might be from Adyghea, they're less 'mong' from what I've seen on GEDmatch.

Judo fighter Beslan Mudranov is a Kabardin, very West Asian (swarthy and hairy)
https://ruspekh.ru/images/articles/26967/2015_07_07-04-01_000.jpg
http://cdn01.ru/files/users/images/5c/34/5c34a9a8f9546d25b01789f1ed5b8f0b.png

He looks more Azeri than Circassian imfao.

War Chef
06-16-2019, 08:40 PM
This guy is a real Nart.

Narts translates to "Heroes" and were described as giants. They were most likely East-European steppe people who came in conflict with Maykop-descended Natives.


In contrast to the Ossetian and Abkhaz versions, the Nakh legends depict the Narts as warlike bandits, who fight against local good heroes such as Koloi-Kant and Qinda-Shoa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nart_saga

So Ossetians befriended them, Chechens fought them.
They were like Russians.

Leto
06-16-2019, 08:40 PM
He looks more Azeri than Circassian imfao.
Well, this Ingush (Hasan Khalmurzaev) is no less dark and swarthy than him
https://img.prosports.kz/news/content/file_1470829954_673316280.jpg

By the way, I've never seen Ingush and Dargin GM samples. Also, Avars and Laks would be interesting to see.

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 08:43 PM
Well, this Ingush (Hasan Khalmurzaev) is no less dark and swarthy than him

By the way, I've never seen Ingush and Dargin GM samples. Also, Avars and Laks would be interesting to see.

Here is the most famous Turkish wrestling legend of Ubykh origin from Samsun. What do you think about him?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/tr/a/ae/Yasar_dogu.jpg

Leto
06-16-2019, 08:45 PM
Here is the most famous Turkish wrestling legend of Ubykh origin from Samsun. What do you think about him?

https://admin.biyografya.com/_docs/photos/768c187443ff0fc850d0078ae799222a.jpg
I can't see the picture.

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 08:46 PM
I can't see the picture.

Fixed.

Leto
06-16-2019, 08:48 PM
Here is the most famous Turkish wrestling legend of Ubykh origin from Samsun. What do you think about him?

Looks different from those guys, more European. At least in this photo.

War Chef
06-16-2019, 08:48 PM
I have a 100% South Ossetian GEDMATCH M281899

This is his Dodecad v3:

1 West_Asian 50.68
2 Mediterranean 19.08
3 West_European 11.50
4 East_European 5.55
5 South_Asian 4.18
6 Southwest_Asian 3.70
7 Northeast_Asian 2.51
8 Southeast_Asian 2.43


Finished reading population data. 227 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turks_Behar @ 11.204759
2 Iranian_Dodecad @ 12.048908
3 Urkarah_Xing @ 14.612802
4 Turkish_Dodecad @ 14.984574
5 Kurd_Dodecad @ 15.331305
6 Kurd_Xing @ 16.405300
7 Stalskoe_Xing @ 16.534754
8 Armenians_16_Behar @ 16.981844
9 Armenian_Dodecad @ 17.589111
10 Adygei_HGDP @ 17.605139
11 Iranians_Behar @ 17.867443
12 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 19.679258
13 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 20.089138
14 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 21.436514
15 Georgians_Behar @ 23.475258
16 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 23.643906
17 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 23.951183
18 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 25.156523
19 Druze_HGDP @ 25.572227
20 Lezgins_Behar @ 26.441563

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Adygei_HGDP +50% Turkish_Dodecad @ 3.430832


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Adygei_HGDP +25% Iranian_Dodecad +25% S_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.625685


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++
1 Adygei_HGDP + Turks_Behar + Turks_Behar + Urkarah_Xing @ 2.522058
2 Adygei_HGDP + Adygei_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.625685
3 Adygei_HGDP + Armenians_16_Behar + Turks_Behar + Stalskoe_Xing @ 2.625760
4 Armenians_16_Behar + Georgians_Behar + Stalskoe_Xing + Stalskoe_Xing @ 2.712226
5 Adygei_HGDP + Armenians_16_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad + Urkarah_Xing @ 2.793571
6 Adygei_HGDP + Adygei_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.877030
7 Adygei_HGDP + Adygei_HGDP + Greek_Dodecad + Iranian_Dodecad @ 2.881696
8 Adygei_HGDP + Turkish_Dodecad + Turks_Behar + Urkarah_Xing @ 2.942835
9 Armenian_Dodecad + Georgians_Behar + Stalskoe_Xing + Stalskoe_Xing @ 2.957368
10 Georgians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad + Turks_Behar + Urkarah_Xing @ 2.963579
11 Adygei_HGDP + Armenian_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad + Urkarah_Xing @ 2.970693
12 Adygei_HGDP + Armenians_16_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad + Stalskoe_Xing @ 3.005294
13 Armenians_16_Behar + Turks_Behar + Urkarah_Xing + Urkarah_Xing @ 3.013231
14 Adygei_HGDP + Armenian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar + Urkarah_Xing @ 3.090495
15 Georgians_Behar + Iranian_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad + Stalskoe_Xing @ 3.142793
16 Adygei_HGDP + Adygei_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 3.156838
17 Georgians_Behar + Kurd_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad + Urkarah_Xing @ 3.165742
18 Georgians_Behar + Turks_Behar + Stalskoe_Xing + Urkarah_Xing @ 3.238081
19 Georgians_Behar + Turks_Behar + Turks_Behar + Urkarah_Xing @ 3.243414
20 Adygei_HGDP + Armenian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar + Stalskoe_Xing @ 3.255649

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 08:49 PM
I have a 100% South Ossetian GEDMATCH M281899

This is his Dodecad v3:

1 West_Asian 50.68
2 Mediterranean 19.08
3 West_European 11.50
4 East_European 5.55
5 South_Asian 4.18
6 Southwest_Asian 3.70
7 Northeast_Asian 2.51
8 Southeast_Asian 2.43


Finished reading population data. 227 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turks_Behar @ 11.204759
2 Iranian_Dodecad @ 12.048908
3 Urkarah_Xing @ 14.612802
4 Turkish_Dodecad @ 14.984574
5 Kurd_Dodecad @ 15.331305
6 Kurd_Xing @ 16.405300
7 Stalskoe_Xing @ 16.534754
8 Armenians_16_Behar @ 16.981844
9 Armenian_Dodecad @ 17.589111
10 Adygei_HGDP @ 17.605139
11 Iranians_Behar @ 17.867443
12 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 19.679258
13 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 20.089138
14 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 21.436514
15 Georgians_Behar @ 23.475258
16 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 23.643906
17 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 23.951183
18 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 25.156523
19 Druze_HGDP @ 25.572227
20 Lezgins_Behar @ 26.441563

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Adygei_HGDP +50% Turkish_Dodecad @ 3.430832


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Adygei_HGDP +25% Iranian_Dodecad +25% S_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.625685


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++
1 Adygei_HGDP + Turks_Behar + Turks_Behar + Urkarah_Xing @ 2.522058
2 Adygei_HGDP + Adygei_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.625685
3 Adygei_HGDP + Armenians_16_Behar + Turks_Behar + Stalskoe_Xing @ 2.625760
4 Armenians_16_Behar + Georgians_Behar + Stalskoe_Xing + Stalskoe_Xing @ 2.712226
5 Adygei_HGDP + Armenians_16_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad + Urkarah_Xing @ 2.793571
6 Adygei_HGDP + Adygei_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.877030
7 Adygei_HGDP + Adygei_HGDP + Greek_Dodecad + Iranian_Dodecad @ 2.881696
8 Adygei_HGDP + Turkish_Dodecad + Turks_Behar + Urkarah_Xing @ 2.942835
9 Armenian_Dodecad + Georgians_Behar + Stalskoe_Xing + Stalskoe_Xing @ 2.957368
10 Georgians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad + Turks_Behar + Urkarah_Xing @ 2.963579
11 Adygei_HGDP + Armenian_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad + Urkarah_Xing @ 2.970693
12 Adygei_HGDP + Armenians_16_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad + Stalskoe_Xing @ 3.005294
13 Armenians_16_Behar + Turks_Behar + Urkarah_Xing + Urkarah_Xing @ 3.013231
14 Adygei_HGDP + Armenian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar + Urkarah_Xing @ 3.090495
15 Georgians_Behar + Iranian_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad + Stalskoe_Xing @ 3.142793
16 Adygei_HGDP + Adygei_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 3.156838
17 Georgians_Behar + Kurd_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad + Urkarah_Xing @ 3.165742
18 Georgians_Behar + Turks_Behar + Stalskoe_Xing + Urkarah_Xing @ 3.238081
19 Georgians_Behar + Turks_Behar + Turks_Behar + Urkarah_Xing @ 3.243414
20 Adygei_HGDP + Armenian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar + Stalskoe_Xing @ 3.255649

Should have mixed with Georgians.

Cumansky
06-16-2019, 08:52 PM
Uncle, from Polish Szlachta nobility

K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 40.09
2 North_Atlantic 25.6
3 West_Asian 14.31
4 West_Med 11.11
5 East_Med 4.46
6 Red_Sea 1.56
7 Amerindian 1.15
8 Siberian 0.66
9 Northeast_African 0.37
10 Oceanian 0.32
11 South_Asian 0.27
12 Sub-Saharan 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.81
2 Ukrainian 8.28
3 South_Polish 8.52
4 Croatian 8.54
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.69
6 Moldavian 9.49
7 Southwest_Russian 9.72
8 Polish 10.02
9 Russian_Smolensk 10.96
10 Hungarian 12.35
11 Estonian_Polish 12.4
12 Belorussian 13.11
13 Kargopol_Russian 13.13
14 Erzya 14.22
15 East_German 14.73
16 Austrian 15.57
17 Lithuanian 16.07
18 Serbian 16.11
19 Estonian 16.38
20 Southwest_Finnish 17.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.6% Polish + 18.4% North_Ossetian @ 2.24
2 80.4% Polish + 19.6% Kabardin @ 2.28
3 81.4% Polish + 18.6% Adygei @ 2.44
4 82.4% Polish + 17.6% Ossetian @ 2.47
5 81.2% Polish + 18.8% Balkar @ 2.51
6 80.1% Polish + 19.9% Chechen @ 2.54
7 84.7% Polish + 15.3% Abhkasian @ 2.69
8 84% Polish + 16% Georgian @ 2.71
9 80.6% Polish + 19.4% Lezgin @ 3.08
10 80.6% Polish + 19.4% Kumyk @ 3.15
11 80.2% Polish + 19.8% Tabassaran @ 3.24
12 86.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13.5% Tabassaran @ 3.25
13 81.3% Russian_Smolensk + 18.7% Ossetian @ 3.26
14 86.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13.3% Chechen @ 3.29
15 87% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13% Lezgin @ 3.36
16 83.6% Ukrainian + 16.4% Tabassaran @ 3.46
17 83.8% Ukrainian + 16.2% Chechen @ 3.46
18 88.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 11.8% North_Ossetian @ 3.54
19 80.2% Russian_Smolensk + 19.8% Balkar @ 3.6
20 84.2% Ukrainian + 15.8% Lezgin @ 3.64

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Moldavian +50% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6.348912

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +25% Ossetian +25% Polish @ 3.886737

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Kabardin + Lithuanian + Polish + Polish @ 3.299098
2 East_German + Kabardin + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 3.432896
3 Estonian + Kabardin + Polish + Polish @ 3.437753
4 Balkar + Lithuanian + Polish + Polish @ 3.592420
5 Chechen + Lithuanian + Polish + Polish @ 3.711633
6 Estonian + Kabardin + Polish + Russian_Smolensk @ 3.738766
7 Estonian + Lithuanian + Ossetian + Polish @ 3.799041
8 Chechen + Estonian + Polish + Polish @ 3.802746
9 Estonian + Estonian_Polish + Kabardin + Polish @ 3.805536
10 Balkar + Estonian + Polish + Polish @ 3.825236
11 Balkar + Estonian + Lithuanian + Polish @ 3.827206
12 Adygei + Estonian + Polish + Polish @ 3.829523
13 Kabardin + Lithuanian + Polish + South_Polish @ 3.835469
14 Chechen + East_German + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 3.878447
15 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ossetian + Polish @ 3.886737
16 Estonian_Polish + Kabardin + Polish + Polish @ 3.892153
17 Kabardin + Lithuanian + Polish + Ukrainian @ 3.894094
18 Kabardin + Lithuanian + Polish + Russian_Smolensk @ 3.898542
19 Austrian + Kabardin + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 3.899171
20 Adygei + Lithuanian + Polish + Polish @ 3.900415

War Chef
06-16-2019, 08:52 PM
Should have mixed with Georgians.

Dodecad v3 is old.

Here is his Eurogenes k15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 53.12
2 East_Med 16.48
3 North_Sea 6.21
4 Eastern_Euro 5.76
5 Atlantic 3.54
6 Baltic 3.26
7 South_Asian 3.01
8 West_Med 2.84
9 Siberian 2.70
10 Southeast_Asian 1.85


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ossetian @ 6.304250
2 Georgian @ 6.431290
3 Adygei @ 7.476936
4 Abhkasian @ 7.511806
5 North_Ossetian @ 8.437521
6 Balkar @ 9.833237
7 Kabardin @ 10.853403
8 Chechen @ 11.978815
9 Kumyk @ 12.474280
10 Lezgin @ 14.035231
11 Tabassaran @ 17.528080
12 Kurdish @ 25.898979
13 Armenian @ 26.334185
14 Azeri @ 26.446953
15 Iranian @ 27.034851
16 Turkish @ 28.195011
17 Nogay @ 28.306541
18 Turkmen @ 28.674932
19 Georgian_Jewish @ 29.004299
20 Tadjik @ 31.979959

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Abhkasian +50% Ossetian @ 3.538038


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Abhkasian +25% Lezgin +25% Ossetian @ 2.725512


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++
1 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Lezgin + Ossetian @ 2.725512
2 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Kumyk + Ossetian @ 3.108529
3 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 3.123325
4 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Lezgin + North_Ossetian @ 3.190532
5 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Tabassaran @ 3.191972
6 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 3.280288
7 Abhkasian + Georgian + Lezgin + Ossetian @ 3.284799
8 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Balkar + Lezgin @ 3.287995
9 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Georgian + Tabassaran @ 3.293920
10 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Chechen + Ossetian @ 3.394740
11 Abhkasian + Georgian + Ossetian + Ossetian @ 3.398798
12 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Kabardin + Ossetian @ 3.408736
13 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Adygei + Ossetian @ 3.459801
14 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Balkar + Ossetian @ 3.481641
15 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Adygei + Lezgin @ 3.522078
16 Abhkasian + Adygei + Georgian + Ossetian @ 3.527009
17 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Ossetian + Ossetian @ 3.538038
18 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Balkar + Tabassaran @ 3.547869
19 Abhkasian + Chechen + Georgian + Ossetian @ 3.557490
20 Abhkasian + Balkar + Georgian + Ossetian @ 3.573367

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 08:53 PM
Uncle, from Polish Szlachta nobility

K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 40.09
2 North_Atlantic 25.6
3 West_Asian 14.31
4 West_Med 11.11
5 East_Med 4.46
6 Red_Sea 1.56
7 Amerindian 1.15
8 Siberian 0.66
9 Northeast_African 0.37
10 Oceanian 0.32
11 South_Asian 0.27
12 Sub-Saharan 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.81
2 Ukrainian 8.28
3 South_Polish 8.52
4 Croatian 8.54
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.69
6 Moldavian 9.49
7 Southwest_Russian 9.72
8 Polish 10.02
9 Russian_Smolensk 10.96
10 Hungarian 12.35
11 Estonian_Polish 12.4
12 Belorussian 13.11
13 Kargopol_Russian 13.13
14 Erzya 14.22
15 East_German 14.73
16 Austrian 15.57
17 Lithuanian 16.07
18 Serbian 16.11
19 Estonian 16.38
20 Southwest_Finnish 17.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.6% Polish + 18.4% North_Ossetian @ 2.24
2 80.4% Polish + 19.6% Kabardin @ 2.28
3 81.4% Polish + 18.6% Adygei @ 2.44
4 82.4% Polish + 17.6% Ossetian @ 2.47
5 81.2% Polish + 18.8% Balkar @ 2.51
6 80.1% Polish + 19.9% Chechen @ 2.54
7 84.7% Polish + 15.3% Abhkasian @ 2.69
8 84% Polish + 16% Georgian @ 2.71
9 80.6% Polish + 19.4% Lezgin @ 3.08
10 80.6% Polish + 19.4% Kumyk @ 3.15
11 80.2% Polish + 19.8% Tabassaran @ 3.24
12 86.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13.5% Tabassaran @ 3.25
13 81.3% Russian_Smolensk + 18.7% Ossetian @ 3.26
14 86.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13.3% Chechen @ 3.29
15 87% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13% Lezgin @ 3.36
16 83.6% Ukrainian + 16.4% Tabassaran @ 3.46
17 83.8% Ukrainian + 16.2% Chechen @ 3.46
18 88.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 11.8% North_Ossetian @ 3.54
19 80.2% Russian_Smolensk + 19.8% Balkar @ 3.6
20 84.2% Ukrainian + 15.8% Lezgin @ 3.64

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Moldavian +50% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6.348912

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +25% Ossetian +25% Polish @ 3.886737

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Kabardin + Lithuanian + Polish + Polish @ 3.299098
2 East_German + Kabardin + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 3.432896
3 Estonian + Kabardin + Polish + Polish @ 3.437753
4 Balkar + Lithuanian + Polish + Polish @ 3.592420
5 Chechen + Lithuanian + Polish + Polish @ 3.711633
6 Estonian + Kabardin + Polish + Russian_Smolensk @ 3.738766
7 Estonian + Lithuanian + Ossetian + Polish @ 3.799041
8 Chechen + Estonian + Polish + Polish @ 3.802746
9 Estonian + Estonian_Polish + Kabardin + Polish @ 3.805536
10 Balkar + Estonian + Polish + Polish @ 3.825236
11 Balkar + Estonian + Lithuanian + Polish @ 3.827206
12 Adygei + Estonian + Polish + Polish @ 3.829523
13 Kabardin + Lithuanian + Polish + South_Polish @ 3.835469
14 Chechen + East_German + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 3.878447
15 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ossetian + Polish @ 3.886737
16 Estonian_Polish + Kabardin + Polish + Polish @ 3.892153
17 Kabardin + Lithuanian + Polish + Ukrainian @ 3.894094
18 Kabardin + Lithuanian + Polish + Russian_Smolensk @ 3.898542
19 Austrian + Kabardin + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 3.899171
20 Adygei + Lithuanian + Polish + Polish @ 3.900415

I have heard some Circassians entered in Polish nobility.

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 08:54 PM
Dodecad v3 is old.

Here is his Eurogenes k15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 53.12
2 East_Med 16.48
3 North_Sea 6.21
4 Eastern_Euro 5.76
5 Atlantic 3.54
6 Baltic 3.26
7 South_Asian 3.01
8 West_Med 2.84
9 Siberian 2.70
10 Southeast_Asian 1.85


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ossetian @ 6.304250
2 Georgian @ 6.431290
3 Adygei @ 7.476936
4 Abhkasian @ 7.511806
5 North_Ossetian @ 8.437521
6 Balkar @ 9.833237
7 Kabardin @ 10.853403
8 Chechen @ 11.978815
9 Kumyk @ 12.474280
10 Lezgin @ 14.035231
11 Tabassaran @ 17.528080
12 Kurdish @ 25.898979
13 Armenian @ 26.334185
14 Azeri @ 26.446953
15 Iranian @ 27.034851
16 Turkish @ 28.195011
17 Nogay @ 28.306541
18 Turkmen @ 28.674932
19 Georgian_Jewish @ 29.004299
20 Tadjik @ 31.979959

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Abhkasian +50% Ossetian @ 3.538038


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Abhkasian +25% Lezgin +25% Ossetian @ 2.725512


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++
1 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Lezgin + Ossetian @ 2.725512
2 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Kumyk + Ossetian @ 3.108529
3 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 3.123325
4 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Lezgin + North_Ossetian @ 3.190532
5 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Tabassaran @ 3.191972
6 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + North_Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 3.280288
7 Abhkasian + Georgian + Lezgin + Ossetian @ 3.284799
8 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Balkar + Lezgin @ 3.287995
9 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Georgian + Tabassaran @ 3.293920
10 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Chechen + Ossetian @ 3.394740
11 Abhkasian + Georgian + Ossetian + Ossetian @ 3.398798
12 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Kabardin + Ossetian @ 3.408736
13 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Adygei + Ossetian @ 3.459801
14 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Balkar + Ossetian @ 3.481641
15 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Adygei + Lezgin @ 3.522078
16 Abhkasian + Adygei + Georgian + Ossetian @ 3.527009
17 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Ossetian + Ossetian @ 3.538038
18 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Balkar + Tabassaran @ 3.547869
19 Abhkasian + Chechen + Georgian + Ossetian @ 3.557490
20 Abhkasian + Balkar + Georgian + Ossetian @ 3.573367

North Ossetians score less West Asian.

Cumansky
06-16-2019, 09:00 PM
I have heard some Circassians entered in Polish nobility.

We are descended of Jasz people, is that what Circassians are?

Crimson Winds
06-16-2019, 09:02 PM
We are descended of Jasz people, is that what Circassians are?

Jasz were old Ossetians but I do also heard some Kabardians entering service in early modern era.