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Thambi
06-17-2019, 04:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyQ-5ffRvWs



Kit: EY6759979

Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Sub-Saharan 27.25
2 North_Atlantic 15.13
3 South_Asian 13.89
4 West_Med 10.68
5 Baltic 9.64
6 East_Med 8.91
7 West_Asian 8.32
8 Northeast_African 2.23
9 East_Asian 1.82


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 36.848125
2 Romanian @ 36.950058
3 Bulgarian @ 37.062447
4 Mozabite_Berber @ 37.143166
5 Algerian @ 37.965778
6 Serbian @ 38.229618
7 West_Sicilian @ 38.318485
8 Tunisian @ 38.409794
9 Italian_Abruzzo @ 38.500908
10 East_Sicilian @ 38.789917
11 Tuscan @ 38.814106
12 Central_Greek @ 39.184750
13 North_Italian @ 39.389809
14 Moldavian @ 39.634300
15 Moroccan @ 39.894932
16 Ashkenazi @ 40.417652
17 South_Italian @ 40.553535
18 Tadjik @ 40.849876
19 Spanish_Galicia @ 41.168346
20 Portuguese @ 41.277042

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bantu_N.E. +50% Romanian @ 19.969675


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Italian +25% Uttar_Pradesh +25% Yoruban @ 6.870350


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Portuguese + Yoruban @ 3.630855
2 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Portuguese + Yoruban @ 3.630855
3 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Spanish_Extremadura + Yoruban @ 3.695935
4 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Spanish_Extremadura + Yoruban @ 3.695935
5 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Spanish_Murcia + Yoruban @ 3.795621
6 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Spanish_Murcia + Yoruban @ 3.795621
7 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Yoruban @ 3.817178
8 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Yoruban @ 3.817178
9 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Spanish_Galicia + Yoruban @ 3.886158
10 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Spanish_Galicia + Yoruban @ 3.886158
11 Bangladeshi + Portuguese + Romanian + Yoruban @ 3.913460
12 Bangladeshi + Portuguese + Romanian + Yoruban @ 3.913460
13 Bangladeshi + Romanian + Spanish_Extremadura + Yoruban @ 3.931923
14 Bangladeshi + Romanian + Spanish_Extremadura + Yoruban @ 3.931923
15 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Spanish_Valencia + Yoruban @ 3.975061
16 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Spanish_Valencia + Yoruban @ 3.975061
17 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Spanish_Cataluna + Yoruban @ 3.976877
18 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Spanish_Cataluna + Yoruban @ 3.976877
19 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Spanish_Andalucia + Yoruban @ 4.006594
20 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Spanish_Andalucia + Yoruban @ 4.006594


HarappaWorld
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 W-African 27.50
2 NE-Euro 18.46
3 Caucasian 13.34
4 Mediterranean 13.28
5 S-Indian 11.08
6 Baloch 8.15
7 SW-Asian 3.02
8 E-African 1.33
9 SE-Asian 1.06


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 dominican_bryc @ 20.564276
2 puerto-rican_bryc @ 27.278645
3 romanian-b_behar @ 33.321251
4 puerto-rican_1000genomes @ 33.585938
5 siddi_reich @ 33.735382
6 mexican_hapmap @ 37.902309
7 romanian-a_behar @ 37.931324
8 singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 38.339180
9 bulgarian_yunusbayev @ 38.734478
10 ashkenazi_harappa @ 38.962292
11 tuscan_1000genomes @ 39.315861
12 tuscan_hgdp @ 39.350166
13 tuscan_hapmap @ 39.472679
14 turk-aydin_hodoglugil @ 39.623844
15 ashkenazy-jew_behar @ 39.718346
16 tajik_yunusbayev @ 40.056866
17 serbian_harappa @ 40.245144
18 turkmen_yunusbayev @ 40.587189
19 italian_hgdp @ 40.697247
20 colombian_1000genomes @ 41.121994

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% romanian-a_behar +50% siddi_reich @ 5.357626


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% romanian-b_behar +25% utahn-white_hapmap +25% yoruba_1000genomes @ 4.228044


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 african-american_1000genomes + bene-israel-jew_behar + dominican_bryc + serbian_harappa @ 3.705413
2 romanian-b_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + tuscan_hapmap + yoruba_1000genomes @ 4.048141
3 romanian-b_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + tuscan_hgdp + yoruba_1000genomes @ 4.054001
4 romanian-b_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + tuscan_1000genomes + yoruba_1000genomes @ 4.080499
5 n-european_xing + romanian-b_behar + romanian-b_behar + yoruba_1000genomes @ 4.097696
6 romanian-b_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + tuscan_hapmap + yoruba_hapmap @ 4.118174
7 romanian-b_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + tuscan_hapmap + yoruba_hgdp @ 4.123096
8 romanian-b_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + tuscan_hgdp + yoruba_hapmap @ 4.123717
9 romanian-b_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + tuscan_hgdp + yoruba_hgdp @ 4.128596
10 romanian-b_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + tuscan_1000genomes + yoruba_hapmap @ 4.150357
11 romanian-b_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + tuscan_1000genomes + yoruba_hgdp @ 4.155162
12 african-american_1000genomes + bene-israel-jew_behar + dominican_bryc + slovenian_xing @ 4.162827
13 n-european_xing + romanian-b_behar + romanian-b_behar + yoruba_hapmap @ 4.166414
14 n-european_xing + romanian-b_behar + romanian-b_behar + yoruba_hgdp @ 4.171250
15 bengali_harappa + serbian_harappa + tuscan_1000genomes + yoruba_1000genomes @ 4.191958
16 bengali_harappa + serbian_harappa + tuscan_hgdp + yoruba_1000genomes @ 4.222889
17 romanian-b_behar + romanian-b_behar + utahn-white_hapmap + yoruba_1000genomes @ 4.228044
18 bengali_harappa + serbian_harappa + tuscan_hapmap + yoruba_1000genomes @ 4.240272
19 bengali_harappa + serbian_harappa + tuscan_1000genomes + yoruba_hapmap @ 4.259307
20 bengali_harappa + serbian_harappa + tuscan_1000genomes + yoruba_hgdp @ 4.265009

Mortimer
06-17-2019, 04:44 AM
Cool. He has as much southasian as I do on that calc. Im also half gypsy.

Thambi
06-17-2019, 04:46 AM
Cool. He has as much southasian as I do on that calc. Im also half gypsy.

its a she lol. watch the video. she's gorgeous :amour101:

Mortimer
06-17-2019, 04:47 AM
its a she lol. watch the video. she's gorgeous :love0001:

Ok just checked the video. She is really gorgeous and cute yes.

Thambi
06-17-2019, 04:49 AM
Ok just checked the video. She is really gorgeous and cute yes.

do you get bangladeshi and singapore indian d in oracles? The bangladesh is weird. i dont recall you getting that in any of your results. iirc you get gujarati or punjabi on harappa and eurogenes 13. can you post your results again for those two calcs?

Mortimer
06-17-2019, 04:52 AM
^I get all kinds of southasian populations on various calculators. It is not always the same. They are proximations only and it doesnt mean Im exactly that though or she.

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

#
Population
Percent
1
North_Atlantic
17.04
2
West_Med
16.07
3
Baltic
16.06
4
East_Med
15.34
5
West_Asian
15.14
6
South_Asian
13.02
7
Red_Sea
2.67
8
East_Asian
2.04
9
Oceanian
1.13


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 16.703962
2 Bulgarian @ 17.108486
3 Romanian @ 17.547338
4 Italian_Abruzzo @ 20.501600
5 Serbian @ 20.631681
6 Central_Greek @ 20.659018
7 East_Sicilian @ 21.514303
8 West_Sicilian @ 22.169163
9 Tuscan @ 22.260933
10 Moldavian @ 23.605328
11 North_Italian @ 23.886354
12 South_Italian @ 24.153635
13 Ashkenazi @ 24.422735
14 Hungarian @ 27.153097
15 Croatian @ 27.279533
16 Turkish @ 27.989033
17 Nogay @ 28.675020
18 Turkmen @ 28.875183
19 Tadjik @ 29.397017
20 Austrian @ 29.484255

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Afghan_Tadjik +50% North_Italian @ 10.606344


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Gujarati +25% Tuscan @ 3.345863


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
1 Iranian_Jewish + La_Brana-1 + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian @ 2.642759
2 Brahmin_UP + Georgian_Jewish + La_Brana-1 + Sardinian @ 2.714322
3 Assyrian + La_Brana-1 + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian @ 2.836800
4 La_Brana-1 + Lebanese_Muslim + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian @ 2.902091
5 Kurdish_Jewish + La_Brana-1 + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian @ 2.954581
6 Assyrian + Brahmin_UP + La_Brana-1 + Sardinian @ 3.148206
7 La_Brana-1 + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian + Syrian @ 3.165556
8 Bangladeshi + Central_Greek + Romanian + Romanian @ 3.177018
9 Brahmin_UP + Finnish + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian @ 3.191703
10 Brahmin_UP + Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Croatian @ 3.198920
11 Brahmin_UP + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian @ 3.212366
12 Brahmin_UP + Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian + West_Sicilian @ 3.236096
13 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Romanian @ 3.246086
14 Brahmin_UP + Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian + South_Italian @ 3.249032
15 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Serbian @ 3.251030
16 Brahmin_UP + Cyprian + North_Italian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.251355
17 Brahmin_UP + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + West_Sicilian @ 3.256222
18 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.262023
19 Brahmin_UP + Central_Greek + Croatian + West_Sicilian @ 3.268689
20 Brahmin_UP + Central_Greek + South_Italian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.270353

23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Admix Results (sorted):

#
Population
Percent
1
NE-Euro
23.75
2
Caucasian
23.28
3
Mediterranean
21.14
4
Baloch
12.19
5
S-Indian
10.89
6
SW-Asian
4.94
7
Papuan
1.06


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 romanian-b_behar @ 16.673735
2 romanian-a_behar @ 17.376617
3 tuscan_1000genomes @ 17.981554
4 tuscan_hgdp @ 18.049692
5 bulgarian_yunusbayev @ 18.205015
6 tuscan_hapmap @ 18.261803
7 ashkenazi_harappa @ 19.066113
8 ashkenazy-jew_behar @ 20.883802
9 italian_hgdp @ 21.299484
10 serbian_harappa @ 21.995905
11 turk-aydin_hodoglugil @ 22.929117
12 sephardic-jew_behar @ 26.848289
13 morocco-jew_behar @ 27.159513
14 nogai_yunusbayev @ 28.617523
15 turkmen_yunusbayev @ 28.971184
16 tajik_yunusbayev @ 29.325405
17 hungarian_behar @ 29.378738
18 stalskoe_xing @ 29.677189
19 turk-istanbul_hodoglugil @ 29.875811
20 spaniard_behar @ 29.911734

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% romanian-a_behar +50% romanian-b_behar @ 4.929108


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% bulgarian_yunusbayev +25% cochin-jew_behar +25% tuscan_hapmap @ 1.870709

Thambi
06-17-2019, 05:00 AM
^ Nice. the percentages are fairly similar for south asian/baloch and bangladeshi in eurogenes.. you get slightly better fits though while her fits are around @3 ish. probably cause her mix is so rare

Leto
06-17-2019, 10:21 AM
She's only ca. 30% black, not a mulatta.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 African 29.13
2 Atlantic_Baltic 28.74
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 14.07
4 Southern 13.58
5 South_Asian 12.24
6 East_Asian 0.91
7 Amerindian 0.8
8 Australasian 0.29
9 Siberian 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Dominican 21.53
2 Puerto_Rican 23.8
3 PUR30 29.45
4 Brazilian (Dodecad) 39.44
5 Moroccans (Behar) 39.63
6 CLM30 41.07
7 Romanians (Behar) 41.31
8 Mozabite 41.66
9 Yemenese (Behar) 41.89
10 O_Italian (Dodecad) 41.96
11 Ashkenazy_Jews 42.32
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 42.4
13 C_Italian (Dodecad) 42.69
14 Greek (Dodecad) 42.78
15 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 42.9
16 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 43.01
17 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 43.01
18 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 43.1
19 S_Italian (Dodecad) 43.21
20 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 43.39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.8% Dominican + 27.2% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 7.56
2 71.6% Dominican + 28.4% Pathan (HGDP) @ 7.69
3 73.8% Dominican + 26.2% Indian (Dodecad) @ 7.96
4 73.7% Dominican + 26.3% Kshatriya (Metspalu) @ 8.03
5 72.3% Dominican + 27.7% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 8.08
6 71.9% Dominican + 28.1% Burusho (HGDP) @ 8.19
7 74.8% Dominican + 25.2% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) @ 8.31
8 73.5% Dominican + 26.5% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 8.48
9 71.6% Dominican + 28.4% Bnei_Menashe_Jews @ 8.58
10 75.3% Dominican + 24.7% GIH30 (Dodecad) @ 8.59
11 74.9% Dominican + 25.1% Tharus (Metspalu) @ 8.78
12 75.9% Dominican + 24.1% INS30 (SGVP) @ 9.18
13 75.6% Dominican + 24.4% Muslim (Metspalu) @ 9.19
14 75.7% Dominican + 24.3% Dharkars (Metspalu) @ 9.23
15 77.1% Dominican + 22.9% Velamas (Metspalu) @ 9.59
16 76.4% Dominican + 23.6% Kanjars (Metspalu) @ 9.63
17 63.9% Romanians (Behar) + 36.1% Hadza_He @ 9.71
18 76.9% Dominican + 23.1% Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 9.93
19 77.3% Dominican + 22.7% Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 9.95
20 69.3% Dominican + 30.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 9.97

Black Panther
06-17-2019, 10:26 AM
She's only ca. 30% black, not a mulatta.

Lol. 30% = Easily Black. I am 20-25% SSA and look/identify as Black.

Ayetooey
06-17-2019, 10:30 AM
She seems to have an oddly high amount of North Atlantic? Surely she can't be half black?

Mans not hot
06-17-2019, 10:30 AM
She's pretty.

Mortimer
06-17-2019, 10:52 AM
If she is half African Americans she is not 50% ssa because African Americans are not 100 % black

Mans not hot
06-17-2019, 11:28 AM
If she is half African Americans she is not 50% ssa because African Americans are not 100 % black
Aframs scored like 20 percent Europeans, no doubt why they look so distinct from West Africans.

Leto
06-17-2019, 04:20 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Sub_Saharian 24.14
2 South_and_West_European 22.79
3 North_and_East_European 14.08
4 Caucaus_Parsia 12.33
5 Indian 11.05
6 Middle_East 6.94
7 Paleo_African 4.9
8 North_Asian 1.29
9 East_Asian 1.01
10 Melanesian 0.97
11 Mesoamerican 0.44
12 Arctic_Amerind 0.07

Her 23andme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARiG_dPuS9o

mtDNA: J1b3
Y-DNA: R-Z30 (father must have been tested)

44.8% Western Asian & North African
30.6% Sub-Saharan African
21.0% European
2.4% South Asian
0.7% East Asian & Native American
0.5% unassigned

The results changed profoundly after the update.

Carlito's Way
06-18-2019, 05:54 AM
Lol. 30% = Easily Black. I am 20-25% SSA and look/identify as Black.

they really want to limit us and our blackness here smh

Mortimer
06-18-2019, 05:55 AM
they really want to limit us and our blackness here smh

It would be interesting to know what she identifies as. It would make sense if she identifies with both her sides.

Thambi
06-18-2019, 06:06 AM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Sub_Saharian 24.14
2 South_and_West_European 22.79
3 North_and_East_European 14.08
4 Caucaus_Parsia 12.33
5 Indian 11.05
6 Middle_East 6.94
7 Paleo_African 4.9
8 North_Asian 1.29
9 East_Asian 1.01
10 Melanesian 0.97
11 Mesoamerican 0.44
12 Arctic_Amerind 0.07

Her 23andme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARiG_dPuS9o

mtDNA: J1b3
Y-DNA: R-Z30 (father must have been tested)

44.8% Western Asian & North African
30.6% Sub-Saharan African
21.0% European
2.4% South Asian
0.7% East Asian & Native American
0.5% unassigned

The results changed profoundly after the update.

I wonder why she only gets 2.4% south asian on this while in oracles she gets 25%/south asian indian populations.

Mortimer
06-18-2019, 06:09 AM
I wonder why she only gets 2.4% south asian on this while in oracles she gets 25% indian populations.

Since the new update all gypsies get very small southasian. I get only 3% now. But I suspect and Im excited about the newest update which I dont have yet because Im not v5. It should be more again and the ancestry composition will completely change. 23andme whitewashes the Gypsies lol

https://i.postimg.cc/wBJQWP1d/Ancestry-Composition-V3-0.jpg

Mortimer
06-18-2019, 06:11 AM
I think I should be 25% Southasian if we go by this

Romanian Gypsies: "sample": "Roma:Average", "fit": 1.6711, "Greek_Crete": 45.83% "Gujarati": 33.33% "Lithuanian": 10.83% "Iranian_Persian": 10% You: "sample": "Custom:Mortimer", "fit": 2.8566, "Greek_Crete": 50% "Lithuanian": 23.33% "Gujarati": 13.33% "Iranian_Persian": 13.33%

13.33 + 13.33 = 26-27%

Carlito's Way
06-18-2019, 06:53 AM
It would be interesting to know what she identifies as. It would make sense if she identifies with both her sides.

yeah it would be interested to know, im sure she identifies as both to be honest

Black Panther
06-18-2019, 12:56 PM
they really want to limit us and our blackness here smh

Soon they'll be claiming Haitians ain't real Blacks 'cuz they got 2-3% Euro.

FinalFlash
06-18-2019, 12:58 PM
^I get all kinds of southasian populations on various calculators. It is not always the same. They are proximations only and it doesnt mean Im exactly that though or she.

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

#
Population
Percent
1
North_Atlantic
17.04
2
West_Med
16.07
3
Baltic
16.06
4
East_Med
15.34
5
West_Asian
15.14
6
South_Asian
13.02
7
Red_Sea
2.67
8
East_Asian
2.04
9
Oceanian
1.13


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 16.703962
2 Bulgarian @ 17.108486
3 Romanian @ 17.547338
4 Italian_Abruzzo @ 20.501600
5 Serbian @ 20.631681
6 Central_Greek @ 20.659018
7 East_Sicilian @ 21.514303
8 West_Sicilian @ 22.169163
9 Tuscan @ 22.260933
10 Moldavian @ 23.605328
11 North_Italian @ 23.886354
12 South_Italian @ 24.153635
13 Ashkenazi @ 24.422735
14 Hungarian @ 27.153097
15 Croatian @ 27.279533
16 Turkish @ 27.989033
17 Nogay @ 28.675020
18 Turkmen @ 28.875183
19 Tadjik @ 29.397017
20 Austrian @ 29.484255

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Afghan_Tadjik +50% North_Italian @ 10.606344


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Gujarati +25% Tuscan @ 3.345863


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
1 Iranian_Jewish + La_Brana-1 + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian @ 2.642759
2 Brahmin_UP + Georgian_Jewish + La_Brana-1 + Sardinian @ 2.714322
3 Assyrian + La_Brana-1 + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian @ 2.836800
4 La_Brana-1 + Lebanese_Muslim + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian @ 2.902091
5 Kurdish_Jewish + La_Brana-1 + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian @ 2.954581
6 Assyrian + Brahmin_UP + La_Brana-1 + Sardinian @ 3.148206
7 La_Brana-1 + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian + Syrian @ 3.165556
8 Bangladeshi + Central_Greek + Romanian + Romanian @ 3.177018
9 Brahmin_UP + Finnish + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian @ 3.191703
10 Brahmin_UP + Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Croatian @ 3.198920
11 Brahmin_UP + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian @ 3.212366
12 Brahmin_UP + Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian + West_Sicilian @ 3.236096
13 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Romanian @ 3.246086
14 Brahmin_UP + Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian + South_Italian @ 3.249032
15 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Serbian @ 3.251030
16 Brahmin_UP + Cyprian + North_Italian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.251355
17 Brahmin_UP + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + West_Sicilian @ 3.256222
18 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.262023
19 Brahmin_UP + Central_Greek + Croatian + West_Sicilian @ 3.268689
20 Brahmin_UP + Central_Greek + South_Italian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.270353

23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Admix Results (sorted):

#
Population
Percent
1
NE-Euro
23.75
2
Caucasian
23.28
3
Mediterranean
21.14
4
Baloch
12.19
5
S-Indian
10.89
6
SW-Asian
4.94
7
Papuan
1.06


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 romanian-b_behar @ 16.673735
2 romanian-a_behar @ 17.376617
3 tuscan_1000genomes @ 17.981554
4 tuscan_hgdp @ 18.049692
5 bulgarian_yunusbayev @ 18.205015
6 tuscan_hapmap @ 18.261803
7 ashkenazi_harappa @ 19.066113
8 ashkenazy-jew_behar @ 20.883802
9 italian_hgdp @ 21.299484
10 serbian_harappa @ 21.995905
11 turk-aydin_hodoglugil @ 22.929117
12 sephardic-jew_behar @ 26.848289
13 morocco-jew_behar @ 27.159513
14 nogai_yunusbayev @ 28.617523
15 turkmen_yunusbayev @ 28.971184
16 tajik_yunusbayev @ 29.325405
17 hungarian_behar @ 29.378738
18 stalskoe_xing @ 29.677189
19 turk-istanbul_hodoglugil @ 29.875811
20 spaniard_behar @ 29.911734

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% romanian-a_behar +50% romanian-b_behar @ 4.929108


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% bulgarian_yunusbayev +25% cochin-jew_behar +25% tuscan_hapmap @ 1.870709

It's time to cut the bullshit. Based off your oracles I'd say you are Southeast European.

Ljubic
06-18-2019, 02:40 PM
It's time to cut the bullshit. Based off your oracles I'd say you are Southeast European.

Look at his 2-4 population oracles. No typical southeasteuropean would get "Brahmin" or "Afghan Tadjik" in any way.

FinalFlash
06-18-2019, 05:46 PM
Look at his 2-4 population oracles. No typical southeasteuropean would get "Brahmin" or "Afghan Tadjik" in any way.

Yeah but look at the first 15 populations on his lists.

Ljubic
06-18-2019, 06:22 PM
Yeah but look at the first 15 populations on his lists.

He would need much more south asian to counter the european admixture thats true but the population distances are so far away, that he still wouldnt really fit with any of them. Thats what the 2-4 oracles are for, to see which population averages you could mix to get to a closer population distance, which in his case even has 25% of gujarati on K13.

FinalFlash
06-18-2019, 06:34 PM
He would need much more south asian to counter the european admixture thats true but the population distances are so far away, that he still wouldnt really fit with any of them. Thats what the 2-4 oracles are for, to see which population averages you could mix to get to a closer population distance, which in his case even has 25% of gujarati on K13.

I understand he isn't particularly close to any European group. But they are the closest matches for him overall. Honestly, if he is even further away from non-Europeans, then why consider him as such?

Ljubic
06-18-2019, 06:55 PM
I understand he isn't particularly close to any European group. But they are the closest matches for him overall. Honestly, if he is even further away from non-Europeans, then why consider him as such?

Yeah, youve got a point.

Nurzat
06-18-2019, 07:29 PM
where's her Gypsy side from? is it Romania? I see Romania showing a lot in her oracles

Thambi
06-18-2019, 07:33 PM
where's her Gypsy side from? is it Romania? I see Romania showing a lot in her oracles

her mother is hungarian gypsy and the father is nigerian/african american/euro mixed.

Mortimer
06-19-2019, 01:15 AM
I would like to create a video of my results too. And add pictures of my parents and grandparents too. I will do it when the new update on 23andMe is available for me. It makes no sense to do it now and in half a year it is completely different.

Mortimer
06-19-2019, 01:21 AM
It's time to cut the bullshit. Based off your oracles I'd say you are Southeast European.

Im not only southeast european. I dont claim bullshit, I just say what I am. Look at my profile "ancestry field". There is a detailed description. It is not a lie. I think you know that but it is flattering that you consider me southeast european when most serbs and other balkanites and europeans consider me a gypsy and foreign. Something new and flattering. Usually it is the other way around.

Ancestry
38% Serbian, 6% Russian, 56% Gypsy Mum: 12% Russian, 88% Gypsy Dad: 75% Serbian, 25% Gypsy

FinalFlash
06-19-2019, 01:50 AM
Im not only southeast european. I dont claim bullshit, I just say what I am. Look at my profile "ancestry field". There is a detailed description. It is not a lie. I think you know that but it is flattering that you consider me southeast european when most serbs and other balkanites and europeans consider me a gypsy and foreign. Something new and flattering. Usually it is the other way around.

Ancestry
38% Serbian, 6% Russian, 56% Gypsy Mum: 12% Russian, 88% Gypsy Dad: 75% Serbian, 25% Gypsy

Your DNA tests state otherwise on those calculators. Which one is more accurate? Also, your calculations are a gross oversimplification. Your dad may be 25% gypsy on paper, but how much of that gypsy ancestry has European admixture? How do you know that at least half of that isn't European? Remember Morty, 50% from mommy and 50% from daddy at RANDOM. Your closest genetic relatives on these calculators are European ethnicities. If you aren't European, then you really aren't anything to be honest. You may as well be a rhinoceros.

Mortimer
06-19-2019, 02:06 AM
Your DNA tests state otherwise on those calculators. Which one is more accurate? Also, your calculations are a gross oversimplification. Your dad may be 25% gypsy on paper, but how much of that gypsy ancestry has European admixture? How do you know that at least half of that isn't European? Remember Morty, 50% from mommy and 50% from daddy at RANDOM. Your closest genetic relatives on these calculators are European ethnicities. If you aren't European, then you really aren't anything to be honest. You may as well be a rhinoceros.

Yes Gypsy has european. All gypsies have european. Look at my signature. "Roma average: 45% Greek_Crete" so gypsies are already half european. My dad would be only a small amount non-european on a genetic test. Like 5% but he is still 25% gypsy. Every 25% gypsy would so he is not special in that regard. Im European but with 27% southasian_population on Oracle Im also mixed race. Lets say I were 10% or less I would be closer to being really European. But If there is only one choice Im rather european then non-european but Im really actually mixed.

arkas
06-19-2019, 02:25 AM
What a fucking cocktail of a person :icon_cheers:

Thambi
06-19-2019, 02:36 AM
What a fucking cocktail of a person :icon_cheers:

yup. gypsies themselves are so mixed and on top of that she's mixed nigerian and african american as well. I've never seen such exotic mix before.

Mortimer
06-19-2019, 02:38 AM
yup. gypsies themselves are so mixed and on top of that she's mixed nigerian and african american as well. I've never seen such exotic mix before.

I dont think gypsies are more mixed then you southasians. If we simplify along the line of westeuroasian/asi gypsies are the same mixed as you. they do not have east asian or negroid or amerindian. They can be modeled on the same cline as every other southasian.

Rgvgjhvv
06-19-2019, 02:39 AM
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 36.848125

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/22/12/8a/22128ac45adb0adb523aa69235aca36e.jpg

FountainOfSalmacis
06-19-2019, 02:49 AM
they really want to limit us and our blackness here smh
How?

FountainOfSalmacis
06-19-2019, 02:57 AM
It's time to cut the bullshit. Based off your oracles I'd say you are Southeast European.
He might score more euro than me based on that!

Leto
06-19-2019, 03:04 AM
Balkan Roma (Bulgaria, Macedonia, B&H) are 26-27% South Indian on MDLP K23b. The girl's score is 12.77 percent, so her mother must be a full or nearly full Gypsy. Her father is almost a mulatto (60% SSA).

Mortimer
06-19-2019, 03:06 AM
Balkan Roma (Bulgaria, Macedonia, B&H) are 26-27% South Indian on MDLP K23b. The girl's score is 12.77 percent, so her mother must be a full or nearly full Gypsy. Her father is almost a mulatto (60% SSA).

I agree. The best thing would be to see her MDLP Ancient Roots. It is designed for Roma. She should be half Roma. I think to be fair there should be a roma category. It makes sense, and turned reasonable and practical after I saw all results. Only real actual roma score high amount of Roma. So it is a useful calculator. https://postimg.cc/rzN9BmN0

Leto
06-19-2019, 03:07 AM
yup. gypsies themselves are so mixed and on top of that she's mixed nigerian and african american as well. I've never seen such exotic mix before.
I think her African is entirely Afram (slave descendants), no recent Nigerian.

Mortimer
06-19-2019, 03:08 AM
He might score more euro than me based on that!

You look much more White then me though. I have a visible southasian influence and was classified as central brachid. You are totally White.

FountainOfSalmacis
06-19-2019, 03:34 AM
You look much more White then me though. I have a visible southasian influence and was classified as central brachid. You are totally White.
I think you are in between Southern European and South Asian, not passing as typical in both. Also what would you guess me as? Placement or classification.

Mortimer
06-19-2019, 03:57 AM
I think you are in between Southern European and South Asian, not passing as typical in both. Also what would you guess me as? Placement or classification.

Just croat or even further north like hungarian or austrian. Generic European.

Mortimer
06-19-2019, 06:14 AM
What do you think?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHNXG58jHKw