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FinalFlash
07-15-2019, 02:33 AM
Hugh Hefner I been, now I am family man. Lol..

Everyone is a player on TA lol

Leto
07-15-2019, 02:33 AM
I do mind assimilating, it's just that I can understand why an immigrant group would opt to assimilate to fit better into their host societies. Keep in mind that we are talking about Diasporans. It's another story if we are talking about Armenians from Armenia. I don't think there are many Russians in the republic other than Ruski Molokans so we aren't in danger of that yet. Russian women may be overrated a bit but I think Ukrainian are better.
Armenia is a monoethnic state basically. And the diaspora will eventually assimilate, in Russia they're mixing with Russians, in America with Americans (who come in all shapes and colors), in France with French people, etc. Arabs and Muslims have almost cleansed the Levant from Armenians.

MS85
07-15-2019, 02:35 AM
Sound like root of my surname.Sounds like you have a cool surname then.

FinalFlash
07-15-2019, 02:35 AM
Armenia is a monoethnic state basically. And the diaspora will eventually assimilate, in Russia they're mixing with Russians, in America with Americans (who come in all shapes and colors), in France with French people, etc. Arabs and Muslims have almost cleansed the Levant from Armenians.

Yeah, an unfortunate circumstance we are dealing with. I hope that the emigration stops completely for the sake of the country and its existence.

Cumansky
07-15-2019, 02:47 AM
Sounds like you have a cool surname then.

Old-Ind current or stream
Old-Ind hero a warrior
Avestan brave courageous a hero
Thracian strong or brave

Leto
07-15-2019, 02:47 AM
Native to their homeland. Iranic people always lived in Northern Syria. The thing is that 100 years ago there were only 3.5 million Kurds. Today, there are 50 million Kurds. Kurdish population simply has grown.

Arabs are Bedouin settles who came very recently to Northern Syria. Father of Assad who was part of the Bath regime ethnic cleansed many Kurdish areas and tried to Arabize Kurdistan. Arabs are actually the illegal settlers in Rojava
The only true Syrians in my opinion are Levantine people, especially Christians.

MS85
07-15-2019, 02:56 AM
The only true Syrians in my opinion are Levantine people, especially Christians.Do you know the history of Syria? There is no such thing as Syrians. 'Syria' was part of the Ottoman Empire. After the Turks were defeated, Syria became a French colony. Later French gave power to the Arabs. And Arabs (Bath regime) ethnic cleansed many Kurdish/Iranic regions in Rojava. 100 years ago there was no such thing as Syria. Also today Syria doesn't exist. Syria is de facto divided into many parts. There will never be the 'old' Syria.

Leto
07-15-2019, 03:01 AM
Do you know the history of Syria? There is no such thing as Syrians. 'Syria' was part of the Ottoman Empire. After the Turks were defeated, Syria became a French colony. Later French gave power to the Arabs. And Arabs (Bath regime) ethnic cleansed many Kurdish/Iranic regions in Rojava. 100 years ago there was no such thing as Syria. Also today Syria doesn't exist. Syria is de facto divided into many parts. There will never be the 'old' Syria.
The name Syria existed long before the existence of the Ottoman Empire, even before the Islam (Mohammad died in 632 AD).

Babak
07-15-2019, 01:32 PM
Tajiks are from Iran, but they are too much mixed with Central Asiatic people.

Wrong. They are native Sogdian/Bactrian people, who were rather a eastern iranian people.

Kyp
07-15-2019, 01:55 PM
Wrong. They are native Sogdian/Bactrian people, who were rather a eastern iranian people.

Didn't you knew that only western iranians in other words kurds are Tr000 $Aryan$

CeRcVa13
01-16-2022, 08:04 PM
Ethnic Georgians by province according to the 2014 census

3,224,564 - Georgia
530,288 - Imereti *
328,662 - Samegrelo-Upper Svaneti *
320,742 - Adjara *
271,298 - Kakheti
249,479 - Shida Kartli
217,305 - Kvemo Kartli
111,168 - Guria *
89,343 - Mtskheta-Mtianeti
77,498 - Samtskhe-Javakheti
31,977 - Racha-Lechkhumi and Lower Svaneti *

= 41%

http://ontheworldmap.com/georgia/administrative-map-of-georgia.jpg

You do not have Tbilisi on the list, where the absolute majority is Western Georgian. Also part of the population of Kartli and Kakheti is Western Georgian (I do not mean only Rustavi, Lagodekhi and etc). Depopulation was taking place in eastern Georgia with constant wars against Iran.
There are also western Georgians in the villages and towns of Kartli and Kakheti, for example I have a friend Tsertsvadze who is from Kakheti. But Tsertsvadze is a Western Georgian surname(Imeretian) and not a Kakhetian.

3.2 million are Georgians, but the population of Georgia is 3.7 million. There will be about 2.5 million western Georgians in Georgia.

Leto
01-16-2022, 08:30 PM
You do not have Tbilisi on the list, where the absolute majority is Western Georgian. Also part of the population of Kartli and Kakheti is Western Georgian (I do not mean only Rustavi, Lagodekhi and etc). Depopulation was taking place in eastern Georgia with constant wars against Iran.
There are also western Georgians in the villages and towns of Kartli and Kakheti, for example I have a friend Tsertsvadze who is from Kakheti. But Tsertsvadze is a Western Georgian surname(Imeretian) and not a Kakhetian.

3.2 million are Georgians, but the population of Georgia is 3.7 million. There will be about 2.5 million western Georgians in Georgia.
Lol, why bump an old-ass thread? ;)

Yes, I did that intentionally. 30% of Georgians live in Tbilisi. Let's say 50% of them are full Westerners. Then the total Western Georgian population would be around 55%.

Nurzat
01-16-2022, 09:07 PM
dunno how Balochi look like, but Georgians and Romanians are quite similar, a lot of overlap in looks, especially in women (men are more robust in Georgia, also have much heavier beard growth)

CeRcVa13
01-17-2022, 04:37 PM
Lol, why bump an old-ass thread? ;)

Yes, I did that intentionally. 30% of Georgians live in Tbilisi. Let's say 50% of them are full Westerners. Then the total Western Georgian population would be around 55%.

The data of Kakheti and Kartli does not mean that all Kakhetians and Kartlians are there. As I have already told you, Rustavi(Kvemo kartli) and Tbilisi are in Kartli and Western Georgians live there. Although there are most Kakhetians in Eastern Georgians, there are also Western Georgian migrants there. Lagodekhi, for example, is a city of Western Georgians in Kakheti, etc.
Western Georgians make up approximately 70-80% of modern Georgia. 55% is completely nonsense. P.S. I just read-search the pages about Georgians and I wanted to write this for information. :D

Leto
01-19-2022, 09:11 PM
The data of Kakheti and Kartli does not mean that all Kakhetians and Kartlians are there. As I have already told you, Rustavi(Kvemo kartli) and Tbilisi are in Kartli and Western Georgians live there. Although there are most Kakhetians in Eastern Georgians, there are also Western Georgian migrants there. Lagodekhi, for example, is a city of Western Georgians in Kakheti, etc.
Western Georgians make up approximately 70-80% of modern Georgia. 55% is completely nonsense. P.S. I just read-search the pages about Georgians and I wanted to write this for information. :D
80% Western absolutely sounds like an inflated figure. Even 70% does. I've noticed more than one Georgian come to this forum and start diminishing the share of Eastern Georgians as much as they can. Why is that? Does that even play a role in modern Georgian society, politics, culture? Like the South-North division in Italy.

CeRcVa13
01-20-2022, 05:59 PM
I've noticed more than one Georgian come to this forum and start diminishing the share of Eastern Georgians as much as they can.


Because it is true. I have a private house (it is in the mountains and the townspeople have it as a resort) in a village near Marneuli, where Kartlians and Svans live. Before reaching the village there are also settlements of Megrelians, Imeretians and Svans. There are also western Georgians in Kakheti. But to be honest, neither Kakhetians nor Kartlians people look like Azeris, Iranians and Armenians at all. They really like Georgians. Many Western Georgians just think stereotypically and think that they are like Armenians and so on(Because they often do not see Eastern Georgians because they are few). If Eastern Georgian is not mixed with Armenians and etc or Georgianized, everyone is like other Georgians.

Leto
01-20-2022, 07:19 PM
Because it is true. I have a private house (it is in the mountains and the townspeople have it as a resort) in a village near Marneuli, where Kartlians and Svans live. Before reaching the village there are also settlements of Megrelians, Imeretians and Svans. There are also western Georgians in Kakheti. But to be honest, neither Kakhetians nor Kartlians people look like Azeris, Iranians and Armenians at all. They really like Georgians. Many Western Georgians just think stereotypically and think that they are like Armenians and so on(Because they often do not see Eastern Georgians because they are few). If Eastern Georgian is not mixed with Armenians and etc or Georgianized, everyone is like other Georgians.
So there are supposedly many Western Georgians in Eastern Georgia but somehow there are no Easterners in the West. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trolling or anything like that. Just can't take at face value what a random user says. Oftentimes people have serious biases towards something and want to present their imagination as reality.

CeRcVa13
01-20-2022, 08:05 PM
So there are supposedly many Western Georgians in Eastern Georgia but somehow there are no Easterners in the West. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trolling or anything like that.


If you study the history of Georgia well, it will not be a surprise for you. But in the 7th century the Arab caliphate invaded Kartli and the Kartlians fled to western Georgia and Kakheti (there were Georgian kingdoms here). From the 11th century onwards, Georgians always migrated from the west to the east of Georgia. Western Georgia is and was entirely in the mountains and forests. That is why the empires had a hard time invading western Georgia and because of this the population of western Georgians was always growing.