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andre
08-07-2019, 10:18 AM
23andme: 90% confidence: 0.1% mongolian and manchurian

Eurogenes k13:
Baltic 29.7
North_Atlantic 22.95
East_Med 20.01
West_Med 14.39
West_Asian 8
Red_Sea 3.14
Siberian 1.17
Oceanian 0.27
East_Asian 0.2
Sub-Saharan 0.17

Dodeca k12b
Population Percent
1 North_European 35.59
2 Atlantic_Med 25.4
3 Caucasus 24.3
4 Southwest_Asian 8.12
5 Gedrosia 4.02
6 East_Asian 1.4
7 Northwest_African 0.66
8 Siberian 0.51

Gedrosia k12

1 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 32.14
2 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 31.76
3 CAUCASUS 19.24
4 SW_ASIAN 11.91
5 BALOCHI 2.12
6 W_SIBERIAN 0.77
7 SUB_SAHARAN 0.71
8 E_AFRICAN 0.7
9 E_SIBERIAN 0.47
10 SE_ASIAN 0.19

K36

Amerindian -
Arabian 2.78 Pct
Armenian 1.46 Pct
Basque 4.00 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.12 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 10.22 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 16.07 Pct
East_Med 5.28 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.23 Pct
Fennoscandian 7.60 Pct
French -
Iberian 3.44 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 13.20 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 5.74 Pct
North_African 0.42 Pct
North_Atlantic 5.35 Pct
North_Caucasian 3.59 Pct
North_Sea 3.43 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.69 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.91 Pct
West_Med 3.45 Pct

Impaler
08-07-2019, 10:19 AM
1-2%, not more.

Kaspias
08-07-2019, 10:21 AM
1.91%

Impaler
08-07-2019, 10:25 AM
1.91%

How did you calculate? :)

Kaspias
08-07-2019, 10:28 AM
How did you calculate? :)

Dodecad K12b Siberian + East Asian + Southeast Asian

andre
08-07-2019, 10:32 AM
I take this opportunity to ask you another question: on eurogenes k13 I score Serbian .. am I oriented more west than an average eastern Romanian?

Impaler
08-07-2019, 10:34 AM
I take this opportunity to ask you another question: on eurogenes k13 I score Serbian .. am I oriented more west than an average eastern Romanian?

Can you show your Oracles on K13?

andre
08-07-2019, 10:39 AM
Can you show your Oracles on K13?

Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.94
2 Romanian 6.42
3 Bulgarian 7.07
4 Moldavian 9.35
5 Croatian 11.5
6 Hungarian 12.14
7 Greek_Thessaly 14.79
8 Austrian 16.08
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.25
10 East_German 17.46
11 South_Polish 17.91
12 Ukrainian 18.31
13 Tuscan 20.19
14 North_Italian 20.32
15 Southwest_Russian 20.62
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.07
17 West_German 21.26
18 Polish 21.31
19 Italian_Abruzzo 21.39
20 Central_Greek 21.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.3% Belorussian + 43.7% Italian_Jewish @ 2.03
2 56.8% Estonian_Polish + 43.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.04
3 50.6% Ashkenazi + 49.4% Belorussian @ 2.06
4 51.8% Lithuanian + 48.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.08
5 59.6% Southwest_Russian + 40.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.1
6 50.1% Russian_Smolensk + 49.9% Ashkenazi @ 2.15
7 57.1% Russian_Smolensk + 42.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.16
8 50.2% Ashkenazi + 49.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.22
9 55.7% Ukrainian + 44.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.31
10 51.9% Polish + 48.1% Ashkenazi @ 2.32
11 55.2% Ashkenazi + 44.8% Lithuanian @ 2.36
12 56.2% South_Polish + 43.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.41
13 56.4% Belorussian + 43.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.54
14 57% Estonian_Polish + 43% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.56
15 56.5% Belorussian + 43.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.6
16 52.5% Belorussian + 47.5% South_Italian @ 2.61
17 52.7% Southwest_Russian + 47.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.64
18 52% Lithuanian + 48% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.7
19 50.9% East_Sicilian + 49.1% Belorussian @ 2.71
20 59.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.73

Impaler
08-07-2019, 10:42 AM
Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.94
2 Romanian 6.42
3 Bulgarian 7.07
4 Moldavian 9.35
5 Croatian 11.5
6 Hungarian 12.14
7 Greek_Thessaly 14.79
8 Austrian 16.08
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.25
10 East_German 17.46
11 South_Polish 17.91
12 Ukrainian 18.31
13 Tuscan 20.19
14 North_Italian 20.32
15 Southwest_Russian 20.62
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.07
17 West_German 21.26
18 Polish 21.31
19 Italian_Abruzzo 21.39
20 Central_Greek 21.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.3% Belorussian + 43.7% Italian_Jewish @ 2.03
2 56.8% Estonian_Polish + 43.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.04
3 50.6% Ashkenazi + 49.4% Belorussian @ 2.06
4 51.8% Lithuanian + 48.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.08
5 59.6% Southwest_Russian + 40.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.1
6 50.1% Russian_Smolensk + 49.9% Ashkenazi @ 2.15
7 57.1% Russian_Smolensk + 42.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.16
8 50.2% Ashkenazi + 49.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.22
9 55.7% Ukrainian + 44.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.31
10 51.9% Polish + 48.1% Ashkenazi @ 2.32
11 55.2% Ashkenazi + 44.8% Lithuanian @ 2.36
12 56.2% South_Polish + 43.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.41
13 56.4% Belorussian + 43.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.54
14 57% Estonian_Polish + 43% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.56
15 56.5% Belorussian + 43.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.6
16 52.5% Belorussian + 47.5% South_Italian @ 2.61
17 52.7% Southwest_Russian + 47.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.64
18 52% Lithuanian + 48% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.7
19 50.9% East_Sicilian + 49.1% Belorussian @ 2.71
20 59.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.73

It shows your Jewish + Magyar ancestry. Nothing Serbian.

Zoro
08-07-2019, 10:42 AM
It’s got to be much more than 2% because 23andme 90^ conservative is super strict and people with just 2% don’t score anything on 23andme’s 90% conservative.

How much on 23andme 50% speculative?

For your total E. Asian Vadim ‘s MDLP k6 on Yourdnaportal is the most accurate because it’s low k and the other components are older West Eurasian which is what you need. Btw Vadim is a much more technical person than Davidski imo

Kyp
08-07-2019, 10:42 AM
1-2%

andre
08-07-2019, 10:46 AM
It’s got to be much more than 2% because 23andme 90^ conservative is super strict and people with just 2% don’t score anything on 23andme’s 90% conservative.

How much on 23andme 50% speculative?

For your total E. Asian Vadim ‘s MDLP k6 on Yourdnaportal is the most accurate because it’s low k and the other components are older West Eurasian which is what you need. Btw Vadim is a much more technical person than Davidski imo

50% speculative: 0.2% mongolian and manchurian

MDLP K6 RESULTS:


Population

Percentage

South East Asian

6.98%

Australo-Melanesian

3.76%

Western Hunter Gatherer

34.18%

African

4.83%

Paleosiberian

4.86%

Basal

45.38%

andre
08-07-2019, 10:49 AM
It shows your Jewish + Magyar ancestry. Nothing Serbian.

I have some germanic ancestry? (Due to magyars)

Leto
08-07-2019, 10:50 AM
MDLP K6 is total crap.

South East Asian 6.98%
Australo-Melanesian 3.76%
African 4.83%

LOL

@andre, you're not more than 2%. Try MDLP World and Dodecad World9.

Leto
08-07-2019, 10:52 AM
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3 50.6% Ashkenazi + 49.4% Belorussian @ 2.06
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6 50.1% Russian_Smolensk + 49.9% Ashkenazi @ 2.15

A pretty interesting fit, I would say. :)

Kaspias
08-07-2019, 10:53 AM
MDLP K6 is total crap.

South East Asian 6.98%
Australo-Melanesian 3.76%

LOL

@andre, you're not more than 2%. Try MDLP World and Dodecad World9.

South East Asian 13.44%
Australo-Melanesian 4.80%
Paleosiberian 7.23%

lol

Leto
08-07-2019, 10:54 AM
K7 on Yourdnaportal is also worth trying.

andre
08-07-2019, 10:55 AM
MDLP K6 is total crap.

South East Asian 6.98%
Australo-Melanesian 3.76%
African 4.83%

LOL

@andre, you're not more than 2%. Try MDLP World and Dodecad World9.

MDLP WORLD 22
North-East-European 40.93
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 29.82
3 Near_East 13.12
4 West-Asian 13.04
5 North-European-Mesolithic 0.93
6 South-America_Amerind 0.73
7 Indo-Tibetan 0.52
8 Paleo-Siberian 0.48
9 Pygmy 0.17
10 East-Siberean 0.16
11 East-South-Asian 0.09

andre
08-07-2019, 10:58 AM
K7 on Yourdnaportal is also worth trying.


Population

Percentage

Sub-Saharan

1.17%

Oceanian

0.62%

Amerindian

0.50%

Euro Hunter-Gatherer

49.93%

Siberian

1.46%

Southeast Asian

0.00%

Near Eastern

46.32%

Impaler
08-07-2019, 10:59 AM
K7 on Yourdnaportal is also worth trying.

This one is good for Mongoloid?

Leto
08-07-2019, 11:02 AM
This one is good for Mongoloid?
Not bad but the Amerindian thing is off. I mean me and my family got over 2% which isn't true at all. The Amerindian can be present only in those who have roots in North or South America. I suspect it might be some Steppe/Ancient North Eurasian influence.

Cumansky
08-07-2019, 11:02 AM
It shows your Jewish + Magyar ancestry. Nothing Serbian.

His East European 50% is more closer with Slavic people from East Galicia, not really seeing Hungarian from Hungary result

Impaler
08-07-2019, 11:06 AM
Not bad but the Amerindian thing is off. I mean me and my family got over 2% which isn't true at all. The Amerindian can be present only in those who have roots in North or South America. I suspect it might be some Steppe/Ancient North Eurasian influence.

I have 5% Mongoloid on this calculator.

http://i.imgur.com/XZuWi9q.png (https://imgur.com/XZuWi9q)

Leto
08-07-2019, 11:10 AM
I have 5% Mongoloid on this calculator.

I think some of your South Asian went into the Oceanian and SE Asian.
By the way, since you have G25 coordinates, you can try this model: Greek, Trabzon Turkish, Chamar and Mongola. I'm curious what you'd get.

Zoro
08-07-2019, 11:14 AM
50% speculative: 0.2% mongolian and manchurian

MDLP K6 RESULTS:


Population

Percentage

South East Asian

6.98%

Australo-Melanesian

3.76%

Western Hunter Gatherer

34.18%

African

4.83%

Paleosiberian

4.86%

Basal

45.38%

Ok thanks. Does 23andme say your Mongolian ancestor was 6 generations ago? The mdlp 6 E. Asian is higher than other calculators also because he used old W Eurasians from before all the migrations from E. Asia after the Bronze Age. The other calculators use modern references and pretty much all E. European and W. Asian modern references carry some of this older E. Asian from those migrations. Since all carry it it is now considered W. Eurasian and is assigned 0 E. Asian and doesn’t register as E. Asian on calculators using modern Caucasians and E. European references because it’s considered part of all those references

Hopefully this is not too complicated for you to understand :)

Impaler
08-07-2019, 11:29 AM
I think some of your South Asian went into the Oceanian and SE Asian.
By the way, since you have G25 coordinates, you can try this model: Greek, Trabzon Turkish, Chamar and Mongola. I'm curious what you'd get.

This is what I've got. I've seen some Turkish members score also 5% Chamar.

http://i.imgur.com/FT57ffA.png (https://imgur.com/FT57ffA)

andre
08-07-2019, 11:32 AM
This is what I've got. I've seen some Turkish members score also 5-6% Chamar.

http://i.imgur.com/FT57ffA.png (https://imgur.com/FT57ffA)
Can you try french+mongolian please

Impaler
08-07-2019, 11:34 AM
Can you try french+mongolian please

Why French + Mongolian?

andre
08-07-2019, 11:36 AM
Why French + Mongolian?

European + Central/east Asian

Leto
08-07-2019, 11:37 AM
This is what I've got. I've seen some Turkish members score also 5% Chamar.

http://i.imgur.com/FT57ffA.png (https://imgur.com/FT57ffA)
Interesting. The Chamars are a "proto-Romani" population according to Thambi. They're Dalits from Northern India.

Snkves
08-07-2019, 11:42 AM
Post your MDLP K11 and PuntDNAL K10.

Kaspias
08-07-2019, 11:42 AM
Try this: Romanian, Greek, Han, Iranian Fars, Georgian Imer, Chamar

http://185.144.156.77:3000/?passcode=level2p0938

Not a Cop
08-07-2019, 12:03 PM
Try Eurogenes ANE K7


Dodecad K12b Siberian + East Asian + Southeast Asian

Siberian is an ANE-mong mix, not pure east asian.

Impaler
08-07-2019, 12:05 PM
Try this: Romanian, Greek, Han, Iranian Fars, Georgian Imer, Chamar

http://185.144.156.77:3000/?passcode=level2p0938

I have tried this + other G25 members, including you.

http://i.imgur.com/FaRvBbU.png (https://imgur.com/FaRvBbU)

Kaspias
08-07-2019, 12:11 PM
I have tried this + other G25 members, including you.

http://i.imgur.com/FaRvBbU.png (https://imgur.com/FaRvBbU)

Can you also try with pen 0?