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vbnetkhio
11-26-2019, 06:00 PM
Very cool dosnt surprise me actually considering how they look.
Anyone have results from Pale in Republika Srpska? CIA agents, do you guys have any?
these are from East Bosnia
https://i.imgur.com/CRAxSAn.png
Another family from Ukraine. Father is from Ternopol (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Ternopil_in_Ukraine.svg/640px-Ternopil_in_Ukraine.svg.png) with alleged Polish ancestry, mother is presumably from Ternopol and Chernigov (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Chernihiv_in_Ukraine.svg/640px-Chernihiv_in_Ukraine.svg.png) (distant Polish and even German ancestry is also possible)
Eurogenes K13
Father
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 38.39
2 North_Atlantic 32.66
3 West_Med 11.83
4 West_Asian 7.22
5 East_Med 5.8
6 Red_Sea 2.05
7 Siberian 0.78
8 Amerindian 0.67
9 Oceanian 0.44
10 South_Asian 0.17
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 4.28
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.69
3 Croatian 6.62
4 Ukrainian 6.71
5 Hungarian 7.18
6 Polish 7.22
7 East_German 7.55
8 Austrian 9.19
9 Moldavian 9.99
10 Russian_Smolensk 10.41
11 Southwest_Russian 10.52
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.76
13 Southwest_Finnish 11.03
14 Estonian_Polish 11.21
15 Belorussian 11.33
16 North_Swedish 12.7
17 Estonian 13.66
18 Finnish 13.81
19 Kargopol_Russian 14.15
20 Serbian 14.4
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.2% Austrian + 46.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.31
2 77.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.6% North_Dutch @ 1.42
3 74.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25.5% North_German @ 1.42
4 77.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.7% Danish @ 1.59
5 79.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 20.8% Southeast_English @ 1.61
6 80.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 19.5% West_Scottish @ 1.64
7 79.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 20.2% Irish @ 1.66
8 56.3% Polish + 43.7% Austrian @ 1.66
9 79.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 20.8% Orcadian @ 1.7
10 59.1% East_German + 40.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.71
11 77.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.5% Norwegian @ 1.73
12 80.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 19.4% Southwest_English @ 1.73
13 55.1% Austrian + 44.9% Estonian_Polish @ 1.82
14 58.6% East_German + 41.4% Southwest_Russian @ 1.82
15 68.2% Russian_Smolensk + 31.8% French @ 1.83
16 53.5% Austrian + 46.5% Southwest_Russian @ 1.94
17 70.2% South_Polish + 29.8% Austrian @ 1.94
18 62.6% Russian_Smolensk + 37.4% West_German @ 1.95
19 63% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 37% South_Dutch @ 1.95
20 54.1% Austrian + 45.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.96
Mother
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 44.28
2 North_Atlantic 28.36
3 West_Med 12.59
4 West_Asian 6.63
5 East_Med 3.67
6 South_Asian 1.89
7 East_Asian 1.02
8 Northeast_African 0.61
9 Siberian 0.49
10 Red_Sea 0.47
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 2.59
2 Polish 3.55
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 3.63
4 South_Polish 4.02
5 Russian_Smolensk 5.45
6 Southwest_Russian 6.09
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 6.18
8 Estonian_Polish 6.28
9 Belorussian 7.22
10 Croatian 9.24
11 Kargopol_Russian 9.63
12 Lithuanian 10.41
13 Estonian 10.46
14 Southwest_Finnish 12.21
15 Moldavian 12.3
16 Finnish 12.31
17 Erzya 12.37
18 Hungarian 13.11
19 East_Finnish 13.35
20 East_German 13.64
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.5% Ukrainian + 32.5% Polish @ 2.23
2 84.1% Ukrainian + 15.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.42
3 91.6% Ukrainian + 8.4% Lithuanian @ 2.43
4 94.1% Ukrainian + 5.9% Estonian @ 2.52
5 51.1% Polish + 48.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.54
6 91.9% Ukrainian + 8.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.55
7 94.1% Ukrainian + 5.9% Belorussian @ 2.56
8 98.5% Ukrainian + 1.5% Swedish @ 2.57
9 98.9% Ukrainian + 1.1% Norwegian @ 2.58
10 99% Ukrainian + 1% Irish @ 2.58
11 98.4% Ukrainian + 1.6% North_Swedish @ 2.58
12 97.9% Ukrainian + 2.1% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.58
13 99.7% Ukrainian + 0.3% Kanjar @ 2.58
14 99.6% Ukrainian + 0.4% Gujarati @ 2.58
15 99.6% Ukrainian + 0.4% Brahmin_UP @ 2.58
16 99.2% Ukrainian + 0.8% West_Scottish @ 2.58
17 99.7% Ukrainian + 0.3% Sakilli @ 2.58
18 99.7% Ukrainian + 0.3% Kol @ 2.58
19 99.7% Ukrainian + 0.3% Uttar_Pradesh @ 2.59
20 99.6% Ukrainian + 0.4% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.59
Son
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.25
2 North_Atlantic 30.9
3 West_Med 9.98
4 West_Asian 8.13
5 East_Med 4.28
6 Siberian 0.98
7 South_Asian 0.83
8 Northeast_African 0.7
9 Red_Sea 0.51
10 East_Asian 0.44
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 2.72
2 Polish 3.49
3 Ukrainian 4.16
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.45
5 Russian_Smolensk 5.91
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 6.24
7 Southwest_Russian 6.38
8 Estonian_Polish 7.06
9 Belorussian 7.17
10 Croatian 9.45
11 Estonian 9.91
12 Kargopol_Russian 10.18
13 Southwest_Finnish 10.22
14 Finnish 10.9
15 Lithuanian 10.91
16 Hungarian 11.85
17 East_German 12.35
18 Moldavian 12.59
19 East_Finnish 12.75
20 Erzya 13.05
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 18.4% Southwest_English @ 1.52
2 80.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 19.6% Orcadian @ 1.69
3 80.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 19.1% Irish @ 1.7
4 81.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 18.5% West_Scottish @ 1.72
5 80.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 19.3% Southeast_English @ 1.82
6 79.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 20.8% North_Dutch @ 1.83
7 79% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 21% Danish @ 1.93
8 78.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 21.2% Norwegian @ 1.94
9 77.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 22.9% North_German @ 2.01
10 76.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 23.7% Swedish @ 2.03
11 94.1% Polish + 5.9% Tabassaran @ 2.07
12 94.9% Polish + 5.1% Ossetian @ 2.08
13 94.4% Polish + 5.6% Lezgin @ 2.1
14 94.8% Polish + 5.2% North_Ossetian @ 2.14
15 94.4% Polish + 5.6% Chechen @ 2.14
16 94.7% Polish + 5.3% Balkar @ 2.15
17 94.5% Polish + 5.5% Kabardin @ 2.18
18 67.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 32.4% East_German @ 2.2
19 94.9% Polish + 5.1% Adygei @ 2.21
20 95.8% Polish + 4.2% Abhkasian @ 2.24
Eurogenes K15
Father
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 25.9
2 Baltic 22.1
3 Eastern_Euro 17.98
4 Atlantic 15.76
5 West_Med 8.45
6 West_Asian 5.4
7 East_Med 2.23
8 Red_Sea 1.8
9 Amerindian 0.24
10 Oceanian 0.13
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 6.09
2 Ukrainian 6.1
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.17
4 Hungarian 6.78
5 East_German 7.66
6 Polish 7.82
7 Croatian 8.05
8 Moldavian 9.14
9 Southwest_Finnish 9.49
10 Finnish 9.66
11 Austrian 10.33
12 Russian_Smolensk 10.81
13 Estonian 11
14 Southwest_Russian 11.11
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.13
16 East_Finnish 11.69
17 Belorussian 12.07
18 Estonian_Polish 12.11
19 Kargopol_Russian 13.21
20 North_Swedish 13.35
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.2% Ukrainian + 24.8% West_German @ 3
2 80.6% Ukrainian + 19.4% Orcadian @ 3.14
3 57.2% Ukrainian + 42.8% East_German @ 3.19
4 78.9% Ukrainian + 21.1% Southwest_English @ 3.2
5 77.4% Ukrainian + 22.6% North_Dutch @ 3.21
6 76.3% Ukrainian + 23.7% Norwegian @ 3.25
7 77.3% Ukrainian + 22.7% Danish @ 3.26
8 78.9% Ukrainian + 21.1% West_Norwegian @ 3.28
9 76% Ukrainian + 24% South_Dutch @ 3.31
10 79.4% Ukrainian + 20.6% Southeast_English @ 3.33
11 80% Ukrainian + 20% West_Scottish @ 3.37
12 75.1% Ukrainian + 24.9% North_German @ 3.38
13 76.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 23.6% Norwegian @ 3.42
14 79% Ukrainian_Lviv + 21% West_Norwegian @ 3.46
15 80% Ukrainian + 20% Irish @ 3.5
16 81.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 18.9% Orcadian @ 3.51
17 57.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 42.7% East_German @ 3.51
18 77.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.4% Danish @ 3.51
19 75.6% Ukrainian + 24.4% Swedish @ 3.52
20 71.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 28.2% North_Swedish @ 3.55
Mother
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.88
2 North_Sea 21.47
3 Eastern_Euro 17.91
4 Atlantic 16.82
5 West_Med 7.33
6 West_Asian 4.95
7 South_Asian 1.33
8 Northeast_African 0.61
9 Southeast_Asian 0.32
10 East_Med 0.24
11 Red_Sea 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 2.9
2 Polish 3.72
3 Ukrainian 3.84
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.29
5 Russian_Smolensk 5.11
6 Belorussian 6.31
7 Estonian_Polish 6.47
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 6.47
9 Southwest_Russian 6.5
10 Estonian 8.39
11 Croatian 8.84
12 Lithuanian 9.01
13 Hungarian 11.14
14 Moldavian 11.24
15 Kargopol_Russian 11.37
16 Finnish 12.17
17 East_German 12.49
18 Southwest_Finnish 12.5
19 East_Finnish 12.93
20 Austrian 13.07
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.3% South_Polish + 14.7% Lithuanian @ 2.48
2 83.9% South_Polish + 16.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.67
3 84.8% South_Polish + 15.2% Belorussian @ 2.71
4 56.9% Polish + 43.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.76
5 83.1% South_Polish + 16.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.76
6 75.9% South_Polish + 24.1% Polish @ 2.79
7 92.8% South_Polish + 7.2% Estonian @ 2.83
8 91.7% South_Polish + 8.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.85
9 92.8% South_Polish + 7.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.86
10 87.5% South_Polish + 12.5% Ukrainian @ 2.87
11 99.8% South_Polish + 0.2% Chamar @ 2.89
12 99.8% South_Polish + 0.2% Sakilli @ 2.89
13 99.8% South_Polish + 0.2% North_Kannadi @ 2.89
14 99.8% South_Polish + 0.2% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 2.89
15 99% South_Polish + 1% Erzya @ 2.89
16 99.8% South_Polish + 0.2% Kanjar @ 2.89
17 99.8% South_Polish + 0.2% Kol @ 2.89
18 99.8% South_Polish + 0.2% Chenchu @ 2.9
19 99.8% South_Polish + 0.2% Piramalai @ 2.9
20 99.8% South_Polish + 0.2% Uttar_Pradesh @ 2.9
Son
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.67
2 North_Sea 24.29
3 Eastern_Euro 16.17
4 Atlantic 15.84
5 West_Asian 7.07
6 West_Med 6.16
7 Northeast_African 0.65
8 South_Asian 0.63
9 Red_Sea 0.43
10 Siberian 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 4.48
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.68
3 Ukrainian 5.16
4 Polish 5.95
5 Russian_Smolensk 7.63
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.18
7 Southwest_Russian 8.39
8 Belorussian 8.48
9 Estonian 8.55
10 Estonian_Polish 9.17
11 Croatian 9.85
12 Lithuanian 10.45
13 Hungarian 10.68
14 Finnish 11.49
15 Moldavian 11.61
16 East_German 12.04
17 Southwest_Finnish 12.06
18 Kargopol_Russian 13.08
19 East_Finnish 13.35
20 Austrian 13.5
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 20.3% Estonian @ 4.28
2 58.7% South_Polish + 41.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.28
3 94.1% South_Polish + 5.9% Swedish @ 4.32
4 86.5% South_Polish + 13.5% Estonian @ 4.33
5 70.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 29.7% Polish @ 4.35
6 95.8% South_Polish + 4.2% West_Norwegian @ 4.37
7 91.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 8.1% Swedish @ 4.38
8 95.8% South_Polish + 4.2% Norwegian @ 4.39
9 95.7% South_Polish + 4.3% North_Swedish @ 4.42
10 93.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 6.3% West_Norwegian @ 4.42
11 93.3% South_Polish + 6.7% Lithuanian @ 4.43
12 96.9% South_Polish + 3.1% North_Dutch @ 4.43
13 98.6% South_Polish + 1.4% North_Ossetian @ 4.43
14 98.5% South_Polish + 1.5% Chechen @ 4.43
15 93.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 6.5% North_Dutch @ 4.44
16 97.8% South_Polish + 2.2% Orcadian @ 4.44
17 95.1% South_Polish + 4.9% Finnish @ 4.45
18 92.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 7.2% North_German @ 4.45
19 93.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 6.6% Norwegian @ 4.45
20 94.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 5.8% Irish @ 4.45
Who do eastern Bulgarians cluster with?
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Do you have gedmatch results of Russian guy who used to post here, he was half Mordvin half something else (Tatar?) what I can't remember and he lived in Yekaterinburg.
Do you have gedmatch results of Russian guy who used to post here, he was half Mordvin half something else (Tatar?) what I can't remember and he lived in Yekaterinburg.
You are talking about Elnar, aren't you. He disappeared over 3 years ago, at that time I wasn't as interested in DNA testing as now. I only saw his Eurogenes and his results were quite weird, almost 25% Mongoloid. Don't know why, with his mix he should have been 15% or so. All of his postings were deleted after the 2015 crash.
He is very far from South Slavs though :D
You are talking about Elnar, aren't you. He disappeared over 3 years ago, at that time I wasn't as interested in DNA testing as now. I only saw his Eurogenes and his results were quite weird, almost 25% Mongoloid. Don't know why, with his mix he should have been 15% or so. All of his postings were deleted after the 2015 crash.
He is very far from South Slavs though :D
Yeah, him :) I remember you said he plot like half Chuvash/Bashkir or something, due to his excessive Siberian.
Funny because he was almost blond haired and looked close to what many foreigners imagine as Russian.
vbnetkhio
11-26-2019, 07:57 PM
Who do eastern Bulgarians cluster with?
with Gagauzes. and some Romanians, like Seya for example.
probably with Thracian Greeks too but i don't have any results from there yet
Yeah, him :) I remember you said he plot like half Chuvash/Bashkir or something, due to his excessive Siberian.
Funny because he was almost blond haired and looked close to what many foreigners imagine as Russian.
I have his photos
https://ibb.co/L5PdXgF
https://ibb.co/jTGqLj5
https://ibb.co/pz6YnKR
And I disagree. Maybe on TA and to some Russophobes in Eastern Europe he looked Russian but to the rest of the world definitely not. I look way more representative than him and Russian women are stereotypically with golden hair and blue eyes. He was zero ethnic Russian genealogically and didn't even call himself that. He was more like a civic nationalist/Putinist (citizenship and allegiance to the state as opposed to ethnicity and ancestry).
Don't know why you brought him up, it's kinda irrelevant here.
^^^^is there something wrong with his look? :icon_ask: He loooked strange as kid, not as adult.
Anyway, I found his results on Anthroscape. I'm interested in genetics of non-Slavic Russian citizens especially those from Europe.
Y-DNA: N1c1a1a2 (Z1936)
Admix Results (sorted):
1 Baltic 45.80
2 Siberian 20.94
3 North_Atlantic 13.47
4 East_Med 8.17
5 East_Asian 5.10
6 West_Asian 3.36
7 South_Asian 1.01
8 Sub-Saharan 0.92
9 Oceanian 0.43
Single Population Sharing:
1 Tatar 6.8
2 Chuvash 9.05
3 Udmurt 12.45
4 Mari 14.09
5 Erzya 16.28
6 Komi 19.23
7 Kargopol_Russian 21.45
8 East_Finnish 25.68
9 South_Finnish 26.64
10 Estonian 27.54
11 Southwest_Russian 28.57
12 Southwest_Finnish 29.63
13 Belorussian 31.01
14 North_Swedish 31.21
16 Russian_Smolensk 32.91
17 Estonian_Polish 33.84
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 34.28
19 Lithuanian 36.12
20 Serbian 39.42
Bulgarian (user Jizo from anthroscape)
He is E-V13
Admix Results (sorted):
1 Baltic 25.82
2 North_Atlantic 23.55
3 East_Med 21.28
4 West_Med 14.61
5 West_Asian 9.19
6 Red_Sea 2.41
7 Oceanian 1.16
8 South_Asian 0.95
9 Siberian 0.71
10 Amerindian 0.2
11 Sub-Saharan 0.1
12 East_Asian 0.02
Single Population Sharing:
1 Romanian 4.44
2 Bulgarian 4.73
3 Serbian 6.12
4 Moldavian 11.65
5 Greek_Thessaly 11.67
6 Hungarian 13.56
7 Croatian 14.1
8 Austrian 16.82
9 Tuscan 16.94
10 North_Italian 17.62
11 Italian_Abruzzo 17.87
12 Central_Greek 18.49
13 East_German 18.62
14 West_Sicilian 19.22
15 East_Sicilian 19.55
16 Ashkenazi 20.02
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 20.23
18 West_German 20.57
19 South_Polish 20.74
20 French 21.19
^^^^is there something wrong with his look? :icon_ask: He loooked strange as kid, not as adult.
Anyway, I found his results on Anthroscape. I'm interested in genetics of non-Slavic Russian citizens especially those from Europe.
Y-DNA: N1c1a1a2 (Z1936)
Admix Results (sorted):
1 Baltic 45.80
2 Siberian 20.94
3 North_Atlantic 13.47
4 East_Med 8.17
5 East_Asian 5.10
6 West_Asian 3.36
7 South_Asian 1.01
8 Sub-Saharan 0.92
9 Oceanian 0.43
Single Population Sharing:
1 Tatar 6.8
2 Chuvash 9.05
3 Udmurt 12.45
4 Mari 14.09
5 Erzya 16.28
6 Komi 19.23
7 Kargopol_Russian 21.45
8 East_Finnish 25.68
9 South_Finnish 26.64
10 Estonian 27.54
11 Southwest_Russian 28.57
12 Southwest_Finnish 29.63
13 Belorussian 31.01
14 North_Swedish 31.21
16 Russian_Smolensk 32.91
17 Estonian_Polish 33.84
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 34.28
19 Lithuanian 36.12
20 Serbian 39.42
26% Mongoloid, lol. And what's with the 8% East Med? Fucking weird. Full Tatars score 1-5% East Med if I remember correctly.
Forget him, he's not representative of any nation.
26% Mongoloid, lol. And what's with the 8% East Med? Fucking weird. Full Tatars score 1-5% East Med if I remember correctly.
Forget him, he's not representative of any nation.
Yeah, unusual results for half Tatar half Mordvin. His ydna subclade is very Volga Finnic though.
You can calm down tho :D It's not like anyone would confuse his results for that of ethnic Russian.
They are interesting because these minorities have high Baltic, much higher than southern Slavs have, in line what some Poles get.
I consider him white and people similar to him. Borderline, but much more European than Asian.
Yeah, unusual results for half Tatar half Mordvin. His ydna subclade is very Volga Finnic though.
You can calm down tho :D It's not like anyone would confuse his results for that of ethnic Russian.
They are interesting because these minorities have high Baltic, much higher than southern Slavs have, in line what some Poles get.
I consider him white and people similar to him. Borderline, but much more European than Asian.
He wasn't a bad person and we talked a few times, it's just his results that don't even match his stated background. Sure he is native to some part of Russia, not an immigrant or something. Perhaps his father was a Tataricized Bashkir (such kind of assimilation was/is not uncommon, many mixed marriages, and their languages are like Croatian and Slovenian or Czech and Slovak).
If you find his other calculators, let me know.
PAGANE
11-26-2019, 08:40 PM
Yeah, him :) I remember you said he plot like half Chuvash/Bashkir or something, due to his excessive Siberian.
Funny because he was almost blond haired and looked close to what many foreigners imagine as Russian.
Ilnur is a Bashkir, but originally a Volga Bulgarian. It is haplogroup J2a
Bulgarian (user Jizo from anthroscape)
He is E-V13
more from him
Admix Results (sorted):
1 Caucasian 32.16
2 Neolithic 26.49
3 NorthEastEuropean 20.14
4 Steppe 16.97
5 NearEast 1.69
6 SouthEastAsian 1.11
7 Amerindian 0.47
8 Oceanic 0.43
9 EastAfrican 0.22
10 Siberian 0.16
11 NorthAfrican 0.12
12 Indian 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
1 Macedonian (Macedonia) 2.17
2 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 2.65
3 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 2.99
4 Montenegrian (Montenegro) 3.6
5 Serbian (Serbia) 4.12
6 Romanian (Gorj) 4.36
7 Romanian (Apuseni) 4.49
8 Moldavian (Molodva) 5.58
9 Kosovar (Kosovo) 5.76
10 Gagauz (Gagauzia) 5.83
11 Romanian (Romania) 5.93
12 Italian (Friul) 6.37
13 Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 6.52
14 Bosnian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 6.79
15 Croat (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 7.13
16 Greek (Thessaloniki) 7.74
17 Swiss (Switzerland) 7.85
18 Albanian (Albania) 7.87
19 Croat (Croatia) 8.11
20 Italian (NorthIitaly) 8.33
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
1 73.8% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 26.2% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) @ 2.03
2 98.7% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 1.3% Georgian (Tbilisi) @ 2.1
3 98.5% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 1.5% Adygei (Adygea) @ 2.12
4 98.6% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 1.4% Chechen (Chechnya) @ 2.12
5 98.6% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 1.4% Balkar (Kabardino-Balkaria) @ 2.13
6 98.8% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 1.2% Georgian (Megrelia) @ 2.13
7 98.8% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 1.2% Turk (Trabzon) @ 2.13
8 50.2% Greek (Athens) + 49.8% Pole (EastPoland) @ 2.14
9 98.8% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 1.2% Kumyk (Dagestan) @ 2.14
10 98.9% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 1.1% Abkhazian_Lykhny (Lykhny) @ 2.14
11 99% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 1% Abkhazian (Gudauta) @ 2.14
12 99% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 1% Abhkasian (Abkhasia) @ 2.14
13 99% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 1% Georgians (Zugdidi) @ 2.15
14 99% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 1% Ossetian (North_Ossetia) @ 2.15
15 98.9% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 1.1% Tabasaran (Dagestan) @ 2.15
16 99.3% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 0.7% Georgian (Georgia) @ 2.16
17 99.2% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 0.8% Ava (Dagestan_Khunzakh) @ 2.16
18 99.4% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 0.6% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) @ 2.16
19 99.5% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 0.5% Armenian (Armenia) @ 2.16
20 99.4% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 0.6% Lak (Dagestan) @ 2.17
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1 North_European 35.42
2 Caucasus 25.03
3 Atlantic_Med 24.91
4 Southwest_Asian 6.84
5 Gedrosia 5.37
6 Northwest_African 1.24
7 East_Asian 0.78
8 South_Asian 0.42
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Admix Results (sorted):
1 NE_Europe 35.32
2 SW_Europe 33.02
3 West_Asia 18.27
4 SW_Asia 8.47
5 NE_Asia 1.56
6 Oceania 1.01
7 South_Asia 0.86
8 East_Africa 0.68
9 West_Africa 0.51
10 Siberia 0.18
11 SE_Asia 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
1 Romanian 3.08
2 Montenegrin 3.38
3 Bulgarian 4.17
4 Macedonian 4.5
5 Serbian 4.62
6 Bosnian 7.71
7 Kosovar 8.73
8 Moldavian 9.34
9 Albanian 9.63
10 Croatian 9.86
11 Greek_Thessaly 10.24
12 Italian_Tuscan 10.85
13 Hungarian 12.25
14 Italian_Bergamo 12.28
15 Slovene 12.69
16 French 13.11
17 German_South 13.48
18 Slovak 14.12
19 Belgian 14.47
20 Greek_Central 14.87
1 96.2%Montenegrin+3.8%Burmese@1.81
2 63.5%Utahn_European+36.5%Turkish_Kayseri@1.94
3 96.1%Montenegrin+3.9%Thai@1.97
4 61%Utahn_European+39%Turkish@1.99
5 96.7%Montenegrin+3.3%Naxi@1.99
6 94.4%Montenegrin+5.6%Afghan_Hazara@2.03
7 96.9%Montenegrin+3.1%Han_North_China@2.07
8 96.7%Montenegrin+3.3%Lahu@2.07
9 96.7%Montenegrin+3.3%Xibo@2.07
10 96.8%Montenegrin+3.2%Miaozu@2.08
11 97%Montenegrin+3%Korean@2.08
12 97%Montenegrin+3%Japanese@2.1
13 96.9%Montenegrin+3.1%Han_South_China@2.1
14 66.3%English+33.7%Turkish_Kayseri@2.1
15 63.9%English+36.1%Turkish@2.11
16 96.9%Montenegrin+3.1%She@2.11
17 96.7%Montenegrin+3.3%Daur@2.14
18 96.7%Montenegrin+3.3%Vietnamese@2.14
19 75.8%Croatian+24.2%Turkish_Kayseri@2.17
20 73.8%Croatian+26.2%Turkish@2.18
__________________________________________________ _____
Admix Results (sorted):
1 WHG 31.7
2 CHG 24.04
3 Anatolian_Farmers 22.42
4 EHG 10.03
5 SW_Asian 7.93
6 S_Indian 1.68
7 E_Asian 1.62
8 Papuan 0.59
Single Population Sharing:
1 Bulgarian 2.68
2 Croatian 7.75
3 Albanian 7.78
4 Tuscan 9.46
5 French 9.9
6 Greek 10.12
7 Spanish 10.71
8 Hungarian 10.97
9 English 13.97
10 Sicilian 14.59
11 Czech 14.71
12 French_South 14.9
13 Scottish 15.15
14 Maltese 16.44
15 Ukrainian 17.13
16 Norwegian 17.15
17 Icelandic 18.26
18 Belarusian 21.24
19 Russian 22.05
20 Tatars 22.32
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
1 91% Bulgarian + 9% Tatars @ 1.54
2 72.3% French + 27.7% Turkish @ 1.61
3 76.6% French + 23.4% Azeri @ 1.66
4 91.5% Bulgarian + 8.5% Russian @ 1.73
5 68.8% Greek + 31.2% Russian @ 1.74
6 74.4% Albanian + 25.6% Russian @ 1.76
7 93.3% Bulgarian + 6.7% Karelia @ 1.8
8 72.7% Greek + 27.3% Finnish @ 1.85
9 78.9% French + 21.1% Kurd_C @ 1.87
10 93.3% Bulgarian + 6.7% Finnish @ 1.89
11 73.5% Greek + 26.5% Karelia @ 1.92
12 95% Bulgarian + 5% Scythian_IA @ 1.93
13 94.2% Bulgarian + 5.8% RISE_baSin @ 2.01
14 77.3% Croatian + 22.7% Turkish @ 2.02
15 90.6% Bulgarian + 9.4% Ukrainian @ 2.02
16 94% Bulgarian + 6% Estonian @ 2.08
17 63.2% Greek + 36.8% Ukrainian @ 2.08
18 97% Bulgarian + 3% Uttaranchal_Brah @ 2.09
19 92.7% Bulgarian + 7.3% Belarusian @ 2.09
20 78.2% French + 21.8% Iranian @ 2.1
__________________________________________________ ____
Admix Results (sorted):
1 Atlantic_Baltic 54.84
2 Southern 22.25
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 20.69
4 Siberian 1.34
5 Australasian 0.56
6 South_Asian 0.18
7 Amerindian 0.14
Single Population Sharing:
1 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 0.84
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 1.93
3 Romanians (Behar) 4.18
4 N_Italian (Dodecad) 7.21
5 North_Italian (HGDP) 8.9
6 TSI30 (Metspalu) 10.07
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 10.64
8 O_Italian (Dodecad) 12.17
9 Baleares (1000 Genomes) 12.57
10 Extremadura (1000 Genomes) 14.34
11 Andalucia (1000 Genomes) 14.36
12 Murcia (1000 Genomes) 15
13 C_Italian (Dodecad) 15.05
14 Spaniards (Behar) 15.07
15 Galicia (1000 Genomes) 15.08
16 Portuguese (Dodecad) 15.3
17 Hungarians (Behar) 15.33
18 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000 Genomes) 15.66
19 Cataluna (1000 Genomes) 15.81
20 Brazilian (Dodecad) 15.86
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
1 97.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 2.4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 0.52
2 57.3% Swedish (Dodecad) + 42.7% Cypriots (Behar) @ 0.52
3 97.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 2.4% Russian (Dodecad) @ 0.52
4 97.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 2.3% Belorussian (Behar) @ 0.52
5 98.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 1.9% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 0.52
6 97.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 2.8% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.52
7 98.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 1.9% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 0.52
8 98.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 1.9% Lithuanians @ 0.52
9 98.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 1.9% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 0.53
10 97.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 2.4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 0.53
11 97.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 2.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 0.53
12 96% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 0.53
13 97.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 2.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 0.53
14 97.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 2.5% Argyll (1000 Genomes) @ 0.54
15 97.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 2.8% German (Dodecad) @ 0.54
16 97.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 2.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) @ 0.54
17 97.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 2.5% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 0.54
18 97.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 2.7% British (Dodecad) @ 0.55
19 97.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 2.5% Irish (Dodecad) @ 0.55
20 97.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 2.7% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 0.55
This is what he wrote about his origins:
^Jizo from which region you came from ?
All over pretty much, half Central North and the rest is Thrace so South East with roots in Central South and also Macedonia
Basically half Thracian half central Bulgarian with some distant Macedonian root.
Montenegrin (claims distant Albanian ancestry) and Bosniak from Bosnia.
K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.36
2 North_Atlantic 26.45
3 West_Med 17.34
4 East_Med 11.3
5 West_Asian 8.78
6 Red_Sea 4.48
7 Siberian 0.89
8 Oceanian 0.75
9 East_Asian 0.71
10 Amerindian 0.64
11 South_Asian 0.3
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.6
2 Moldavian 6.24
3 Romanian 7.64
4 Croatian 8.14
5 Hungarian 8.15
6 Bulgarian 10.07
7 Austrian 10.65
8 East_German 11.97
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.24
10 South_Polish 15.19
11 Ukrainian 15.85
12 West_German 16.23
13 South_Dutch 17.48
14 French 17.55
15 Greek_Thessaly 17.81
16 Polish 18.5
17 North_Italian 18.63
18 Southwest_Russian 19.59
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.83
20 North_German 20.39
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.4% Moldavian + 20.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.63
2 59.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 40.5% Tuscan @ 2.67
3 78.4% Moldavian + 21.6% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.78
4 78.6% Moldavian + 21.4% Portuguese @ 2.81
5 76.9% Moldavian + 23.1% North_Italian @ 2.89
6 80.6% Moldavian + 19.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.92
7 80% Moldavian + 20% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.95
8 81.3% Moldavian + 18.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.98
9 81.4% Moldavian + 18.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.99
10 83.2% Moldavian + 16.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.17
11 73.2% Croatian + 26.8% Tuscan @ 3.21
12 81.1% Moldavian + 18.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.22
13 81.5% Moldavian + 18.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.27
14 80.1% Moldavian + 19.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.3
15 79.5% Moldavian + 20.5% Tuscan @ 3.35
16 63.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 36.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.37
17 76.9% Croatian + 23.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.54
18 82% Moldavian + 18% Southwest_French @ 3.58
19 71.5% Croatian + 28.5% North_Italian @ 3.59
20 76% Croatian + 24% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.62
K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 19.77
2 Atlantic 19.66
3 North_Sea 14.45
4 West_Med 12.45
5 Eastern_Euro 10.41
6 West_Asian 9.33
7 East_Med 7.3
8 Red_Sea 4.74
9 Oceanian 0.57
10 Southeast_Asian 0.47
11 Siberian 0.43
12 Amerindian 0.4
13 South_Asian 0.02
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 7.73
2 Serbian 7.82
3 Romanian 7.96
4 Moldavian 8.45
5 Austrian 8.59
6 Bulgarian 9.56
7 Hungarian 10.16
8 East_German 12.77
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.03
10 South_Polish 14.05
11 Ukrainian 15.18
12 Polish 16.32
13 Russian_Smolensk 16.37
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.28
15 North_Italian 17.3
16 Greek_Thessaly 17.51
17 French 17.62
18 Greek 17.64
19 South_Dutch 17.69
20 Southwest_Russian 17.91
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.7% Russian_Smolensk + 46.3% Tuscan @ 4.85
2 75.4% Croatian + 24.6% Tuscan @ 4.99
3 78.4% Croatian + 21.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.17
4 79.8% Croatian + 20.2% West_Sicilian @ 5.27
5 50.1% Tuscan + 49.9% Estonian_Polish @ 5.29
6 80.3% Croatian + 19.7% East_Sicilian @ 5.3
7 74.6% Croatian + 25.4% North_Italian @ 5.33
8 58.7% Croatian + 41.3% Bulgarian @ 5.35
9 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 50% North_Italian @ 5.35
10 82.2% Croatian + 17.8% South_Italian @ 5.37
11 84.4% Croatian + 15.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.38
12 52.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 47.8% Tuscan @ 5.43
13 50.2% Tuscan + 49.8% Belorussian @ 5.44
14 80.3% Croatian + 19.7% Central_Greek @ 5.45
15 51.5% Croatian + 48.5% Romanian @ 5.49
16 75.6% Croatian + 24.4% Greek @ 5.51
17 78.7% Croatian + 21.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.52
18 51.6% Russian_Smolensk + 48.4% North_Italian @ 5.54
19 54.9% Tuscan + 45.1% Lithuanian @ 5.62
20 86.4% Croatian + 13.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.63
Mingle
11-29-2019, 05:59 AM
Ethnicity: Croat
Region: Livno
Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.8
2 North_Atlantic 28.37
3 West_Med 14.18
4 East_Med 14.12
5 West_Asian 8.5
6 Siberian 2.03
7 Red_Sea 1.94
8 South_Asian 0.56
9 Oceanian 0.33
10 Amerindian 0.17
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.59
2 Hungarian 5.57
3 Moldavian 6.05
4 Croatian 7.25
5 Romanian 7.73
6 Austrian 9.45
7 Bulgarian 10.41
8 East_German 10.85
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.37
10 South_Polish 13.46
11 Ukrainian 14.61
12 West_German 15.37
13 South_Dutch 16.88
14 Polish 17.26
15 French 17.84
16 Southwest_Russian 17.91
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.31
18 Greek_Thessaly 18.69
19 North_German 18.99
20 Russian_Smolensk 19.55
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73% Romanian + 27% Southwest_Finnish @ 0.98
2 87.1% Serbian + 12.9% Finnish @ 1.07
3 85.9% Serbian + 14.1% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.15
4 87.9% Serbian + 12.1% East_Finnish @ 1.16
5 50.3% Estonian + 49.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.31
6 87.8% Serbian + 12.2% Estonian @ 1.4
7 66.7% Bulgarian + 33.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.47
8 52.6% Greek_Thessaly + 47.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.68
9 80.9% Serbian + 19.1% South_Polish @ 1.71
10 87.3% Serbian + 12.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 1.72
11 62.8% Serbian + 37.2% Hungarian @ 1.74
12 75.5% Romanian + 24.5% Finnish @ 1.75
13 86.7% Serbian + 13.3% Belorussian @ 1.77
14 66.1% Hungarian + 33.9% Bulgarian @ 1.82
15 55.3% Southwest_Finnish + 44.7% Central_Greek @ 1.82
16 86.7% Serbian + 13.3% Estonian_Polish @ 1.87
17 64.4% South_Polish + 35.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.87
18 84.9% Serbian + 15.1% Polish @ 1.88
19 89.2% Serbian + 10.8% Lithuanian @ 1.9
20 86.5% Serbian + 13.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.93
Eurogenes K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 19.09
2 North_Sea 17.88
3 Baltic 17.42
4 Eastern_Euro 14.35
5 East_Med 12.13
6 West_Med 9.61
7 West_Asian 6.75
8 Red_Sea 1.42
9 Siberian 0.92
10 South_Asian 0.29
11 Oceanian 0.14
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.07
2 Austrian 6.15
3 Croatian 7.11
4 Romanian 7.21
5 Moldavian 7.49
6 Hungarian 7.59
7 Bulgarian 9.56
8 East_German 11.27
9 South_Polish 12.94
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.31
11 Ukrainian 13.9
12 Polish 15.06
13 Russian_Smolensk 15.73
14 South_Dutch 15.96
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.29
16 Southwest_Russian 16.57
17 Southwest_Finnish 16.69
18 French 16.74
19 West_German 17
20 Greek_Thessaly 17.05
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51% Southwest_Finnish + 49% Greek @ 2.65
2 59.9% Polish + 40.1% West_Sicilian @ 2.69
3 83.6% Serbian + 16.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.7
4 85.4% Serbian + 14.6% Belorussian @ 2.7
5 58.5% Polish + 41.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.71
6 85.5% Serbian + 14.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.73
7 84.8% Serbian + 15.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.83
8 64.3% Bulgarian + 35.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.86
9 88.3% Serbian + 11.7% Lithuanian @ 2.87
10 83.9% Serbian + 16.1% Polish @ 2.91
11 86.8% Serbian + 13.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.94
12 85.2% Serbian + 14.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.96
13 66.3% Serbian + 33.7% Austrian @ 3.02
14 87.9% Serbian + 12.1% Estonian @ 3.04
15 63.7% South_Polish + 36.3% West_Sicilian @ 3.06
16 53.3% Southwest_Russian + 46.7% Tuscan @ 3.07
17 82.7% Serbian + 17.3% South_Polish @ 3.11
18 89% Serbian + 11% Erzya @ 3.13
19 52.9% Estonian + 47.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.14
20 71.3% Serbian + 28.7% Croatian @ 3.16
Eurogenes K36
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 2.22 Pct
Basque 1.42 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.63 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 4.85 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 16.49 Pct
East_Med 6.04 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.84 Pct
Fennoscandian 5.93 Pct
French 7.13 Pct
Iberian 7.83 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.95 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.17 Pct
North_Caucasian 4.81 Pct
North_Sea 7.18 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.55 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.38 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.39 Pct
West_Med 1.20 Pct
Ethnicity: Croat
Region: Livno
2% Siberian! To check if it's consistent we need Dodecad K12 (don't even post the oracle).
Mingle
11-29-2019, 06:18 AM
2% Siberian! To check if it's consistent we need Dodecad K12 (don't even post the oracle).
In K15, he gets around 1%. About the same in Dodecad.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 39.73
2 Atlantic_Med 27.98
3 Caucasus 19.21
4 Gedrosia 7.29
5 Southwest_Asian 4.3
6 Siberian 0.87
7 East_Asian 0.36
8 South_Asian 0.26
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 9.01
2 Romanians (Behar) 10.36
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.14
4 German (Dodecad) 12.6
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 12.69
6 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 16.28
7 Dutch (Dodecad) 17.84
8 French (Dodecad) 18.16
9 French (HGDP) 18.45
10 O_Italian (Dodecad) 19.48
11 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.57
12 Kent (1000Genomes) 19.94
13 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 20.07
14 English (Dodecad) 20.26
15 British_Isles (Dodecad) 21.49
16 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 22.13
17 Argyll (1000Genomes) 22.31
18 British (Dodecad) 22.42
19 North_Italian (HGDP) 22.56
20 Orkney (1000Genomes) 22.97
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.3% German (Dodecad) + 23.7% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 1.76
2 77.1% German (Dodecad) + 22.9% Turks (Behar) @ 2.11
3 80.7% German (Dodecad) + 19.3% Armenians (Behar) @ 2.13
4 80.5% German (Dodecad) + 19.5% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 2.14
5 80.6% German (Dodecad) + 19.4% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 2.25
6 65.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 34.9% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.34
7 80.4% German (Dodecad) + 19.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.37
8 68.8% Romanians (Behar) + 31.2% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.41
9 65.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 34.2% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.42
10 57.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 42.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.45
11 59.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 40.2% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.46
12 61.6% Romanians (Behar) + 38.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.56
13 69.5% Romanians (Behar) + 30.5% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.6
14 66% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 34% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.63
15 80.8% German (Dodecad) + 19.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.64
16 80.8% German (Dodecad) + 19.2% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.66
17 80.3% German (Dodecad) + 19.7% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.68
18 51% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 49% German (Dodecad) @ 2.68
19 63.8% Romanians (Behar) + 36.2% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.68
20 69.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 30.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.73
Westcost
11-29-2019, 07:35 PM
Hallo, Can someone explain this to me. What this all means, is that I'm Moldovan?? And why is Atlantic so small?? Thanks
Sorry google translet
K 13
PopulationPercent
1.Baltic 35.70
2.North_Atlantic 23.75
3.West_Med 15.49
4.East_Med 12.23
5.West_Asian 7.60
6.Red_Sea 2.32
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Moldavian @ 3.986025
2 Croatian @ 4.839602
3 Serbian @ 9.831591
4 Hungarian @ 10.263582
5 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 10.687914
6 Ukrainian @ 11.890295
7 South_Polish @ 12.238485
8 Romanian @ 13.286440
9 Bulgarian @ 15.054959
10 Southwest_Russian @ 15.233753
11 Austrian @ 15.325294
12 East_German @ 15.459737
13 Polish @ 15.695745
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 15.725992
15 Russian_Smolensk @ 17.462563
16 Estonian_Polish @ 17.874378
17 Belorussian @ 18.728481
18 Kargopol_Russian @ 19.784273
19 Tatar @ 20.870920
20 Erzya @ 21.179270
K 15
1.North_Sea 21.01
2.Baltic 19.99
3.Eastern_Euro 17.48
4.West_Med 13.36
5.East_Med 10.11
6.Atlantic 9.27
7.West_Asian 5.9
8.Red_Sea 1.7
9.Southeast_Asian 0.48
10.Amerindian 0.32
11.Sub-Saharan 0.24
12.Oceanian 0.13
13.Siberian 0.01
#Population (source)Distance
1Moldavian6.25
2Croatian9.19
3Hungarian9.49
4Serbian9.76
5Ukrainian_Lviv11.11
6Ukrainian11.41
7Romanian11.78
8South_Polish12.6
9Austrian13.41
10Bulgarian13.82
11East_German14.07
12Polish15.1
13Ukrainian_Belgorod15.37
14Southwest_Russian15.73
15Russian_Smolensk16.19
16Kargopol_Russian17.33
17Estonian_Polish17.61
18Belorussian17.73
19Finnish
Meta-ethnicity Hellenic? I smell a troll.
Anyway, usual southern Croat results.
vbnetkhio
11-29-2019, 08:00 PM
Hallo, Can someone explain this to me. What this all means, is that I'm Moldovan?? And why is Atlantic so small?? Thanks
which part of B&H are you from? maybe Livno? you are very similar to the Dalmatian Croat i posted here:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299002-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-Eurogenes-results&p=6359290&viewfull=1#post6359290
This "Moldavian" average isn't pure Moldavian, it's a mix of more ethnicities. Croats from Dalmatia usually get Moldavian first, so in your case you can read this "Moldavian" as "Dalmatian Croat"
This "Moldavian" average isn't pure Moldavian, it's a mix of more ethnicities.
So the solution to the Moldovan question has been found? Are they not just half Ukrainian and half Romanian? This is a genuine question.
vbnetkhio
11-29-2019, 08:14 PM
So the solution to the Moldovan question has been found? Are they not just half Ukrainian and half Romanian? This is a genuine question.
those academic sample include a Half Ukrainian-Half Gipsy, a Latvian, Ukrainian and maybe some Gagauz and Bulgarians, but i presume at least the Half Gipsy was excluded from the average. :rolleyes:
that Balanovsky paper you showed me has better Moldavian samples, but i still don't know where to find the raw data
those academic sample include a Half Ukrainian-Half Gipsy, a Latvian, Ukrainian and maybe some Gagauz and Bulgarians, but i presume at least the Half Gipsy was excluded from the average. :rolleyes:
Why a Latvian? There is no Latvians in Moldova and they are not native to the country at all. It's almost like including a black African student into the national average, lol.
Dušan
11-29-2019, 08:19 PM
I am proud +90% autosomal Moldovan. :)
Westcost
11-29-2019, 08:19 PM
Ok super. Hellenic for fun. Y haplogrup R1a Posusje. Dalmatian Croat, not something else, as Herzegowina or Bosnia. Dalmatian Croat
Pribislav
11-29-2019, 08:20 PM
Ethnicity: Croat
Region: Livno
Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.8
2 North_Atlantic 28.37
3 West_Med 14.18
4 East_Med 14.12
5 West_Asian 8.5
6 Siberian 2.03
7 Red_Sea 1.94
8 South_Asian 0.56
9 Oceanian 0.33
10 Amerindian 0.17
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.59
2 Hungarian 5.57
3 Moldavian 6.05
4 Croatian 7.25
5 Romanian 7.73
6 Austrian 9.45
7 Bulgarian 10.41
8 East_German 10.85
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.37
10 South_Polish 13.46
11 Ukrainian 14.61
12 West_German 15.37
13 South_Dutch 16.88
14 Polish 17.26
15 French 17.84
16 Southwest_Russian 17.91
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.31
18 Greek_Thessaly 18.69
19 North_German 18.99
20 Russian_Smolensk 19.55
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73% Romanian + 27% Southwest_Finnish @ 0.98
2 87.1% Serbian + 12.9% Finnish @ 1.07
3 85.9% Serbian + 14.1% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.15
4 87.9% Serbian + 12.1% East_Finnish @ 1.16
5 50.3% Estonian + 49.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.31
6 87.8% Serbian + 12.2% Estonian @ 1.4
7 66.7% Bulgarian + 33.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.47
8 52.6% Greek_Thessaly + 47.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.68
9 80.9% Serbian + 19.1% South_Polish @ 1.71
10 87.3% Serbian + 12.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 1.72
11 62.8% Serbian + 37.2% Hungarian @ 1.74
12 75.5% Romanian + 24.5% Finnish @ 1.75
13 86.7% Serbian + 13.3% Belorussian @ 1.77
14 66.1% Hungarian + 33.9% Bulgarian @ 1.82
15 55.3% Southwest_Finnish + 44.7% Central_Greek @ 1.82
16 86.7% Serbian + 13.3% Estonian_Polish @ 1.87
17 64.4% South_Polish + 35.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.87
18 84.9% Serbian + 15.1% Polish @ 1.88
19 89.2% Serbian + 10.8% Lithuanian @ 1.9
20 86.5% Serbian + 13.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.93
Eurogenes K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 19.09
2 North_Sea 17.88
3 Baltic 17.42
4 Eastern_Euro 14.35
5 East_Med 12.13
6 West_Med 9.61
7 West_Asian 6.75
8 Red_Sea 1.42
9 Siberian 0.92
10 South_Asian 0.29
11 Oceanian 0.14
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.07
2 Austrian 6.15
3 Croatian 7.11
4 Romanian 7.21
5 Moldavian 7.49
6 Hungarian 7.59
7 Bulgarian 9.56
8 East_German 11.27
9 South_Polish 12.94
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.31
11 Ukrainian 13.9
12 Polish 15.06
13 Russian_Smolensk 15.73
14 South_Dutch 15.96
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.29
16 Southwest_Russian 16.57
17 Southwest_Finnish 16.69
18 French 16.74
19 West_German 17
20 Greek_Thessaly 17.05
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51% Southwest_Finnish + 49% Greek @ 2.65
2 59.9% Polish + 40.1% West_Sicilian @ 2.69
3 83.6% Serbian + 16.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.7
4 85.4% Serbian + 14.6% Belorussian @ 2.7
5 58.5% Polish + 41.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.71
6 85.5% Serbian + 14.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.73
7 84.8% Serbian + 15.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.83
8 64.3% Bulgarian + 35.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.86
9 88.3% Serbian + 11.7% Lithuanian @ 2.87
10 83.9% Serbian + 16.1% Polish @ 2.91
11 86.8% Serbian + 13.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.94
12 85.2% Serbian + 14.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.96
13 66.3% Serbian + 33.7% Austrian @ 3.02
14 87.9% Serbian + 12.1% Estonian @ 3.04
15 63.7% South_Polish + 36.3% West_Sicilian @ 3.06
16 53.3% Southwest_Russian + 46.7% Tuscan @ 3.07
17 82.7% Serbian + 17.3% South_Polish @ 3.11
18 89% Serbian + 11% Erzya @ 3.13
19 52.9% Estonian + 47.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.14
20 71.3% Serbian + 28.7% Croatian @ 3.16
Eurogenes K36
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 2.22 Pct
Basque 1.42 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.63 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 4.85 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 16.49 Pct
East_Med 6.04 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.84 Pct
Fennoscandian 5.93 Pct
French 7.13 Pct
Iberian 7.83 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.95 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.17 Pct
North_Caucasian 4.81 Pct
North_Sea 7.18 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.55 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.38 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.39 Pct
West_Med 1.20 Pct
Similar as this Dalmatian Serb https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299002-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-Eurogenes-results&p=6202290&viewfull=1#post6202290
vbnetkhio
11-29-2019, 08:23 PM
Ok super. Hellenic for fun. Y haplogrup R1a Posusje. Dalmatian Croat, not something else, as Herzegowina or Bosnia. Dalmatian Croat
you are from Posušje?
that Balanovsky paper you showed me has better Moldavian samples, but i still don't know where to find the raw data
Two certain mother-rs on this forum do have access and can do that in one evening, yet they have ignored my repeated requests. Though I've been trying to get other samples (Dagestan and Uzbeks), not Moldovans but you get the point.
Westcost
11-29-2019, 08:28 PM
Yes Posušje. Why?
Hallo, Can someone explain this to me. What this all means, is that I'm Moldovan?? And why is Atlantic so small?? Thanks
Sorry google translet
K 13
PopulationPercent
1.Baltic 35.70
2.North_Atlantic 23.75
3.West_Med 15.49
4.East_Med 12.23
5.West_Asian 7.60
6.Red_Sea 2.32
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Moldavian @ 3.986025
2 Croatian @ 4.839602
3 Serbian @ 9.831591
4 Hungarian @ 10.263582
5 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 10.687914
6 Ukrainian @ 11.890295
7 South_Polish @ 12.238485
8 Romanian @ 13.286440
9 Bulgarian @ 15.054959
10 Southwest_Russian @ 15.233753
11 Austrian @ 15.325294
12 East_German @ 15.459737
13 Polish @ 15.695745
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 15.725992
15 Russian_Smolensk @ 17.462563
16 Estonian_Polish @ 17.874378
17 Belorussian @ 18.728481
18 Kargopol_Russian @ 19.784273
19 Tatar @ 20.870920
20 Erzya @ 21.179270
K 15
1.North_Sea 21.01
2.Baltic 19.99
3.Eastern_Euro 17.48
4.West_Med 13.36
5.East_Med 10.11
6.Atlantic 9.27
7.West_Asian 5.9
8.Red_Sea 1.7
9.Southeast_Asian 0.48
10.Amerindian 0.32
11.Sub-Saharan 0.24
12.Oceanian 0.13
13.Siberian 0.01
#Population (source)Distance
1Moldavian6.25
2Croatian9.19
3Hungarian9.49
4Serbian9.76
5Ukrainian_Lviv11.11
6Ukrainian11.41
7Romanian11.78
8South_Polish12.6
9Austrian13.41
10Bulgarian13.82
11East_German14.07
12Polish15.1
13Ukrainian_Belgorod15.37
14Southwest_Russian15.73
15Russian_Smolensk16.19
16Kargopol_Russian17.33
17Estonian_Polish17.61
18Belorussian17.73
19Finnish
Can you post normal mixed mode results? Just click "Oracle", not "Oracle-4" please. Also, I'd like to see Dodecad K12b.
vbnetkhio
11-29-2019, 08:37 PM
Yes Posušje. Why?
could you post eurogenes k36 too?
Westcost
11-29-2019, 08:40 PM
K 13
PopulationPercent
1Baltic35.7
2North_Atlantic23.75
3West_Med15.49
4East_Med12.23
5West_Asian7.6
6Red_Sea2.32
7Siberian0.92
8East_Asian0.81
9Amerindian0.5
10Sub-Saharan0.4311Oceanian0.26
K12b
North_European43.89
2Atlantic_Med26.38
3Caucasus18.39
4Southwest_Asian5.4
5Gedrosia4.04
6East_Asian1.38
7East_African0.34
8Siberian0.14
9Southeast_Asian0.03
Hungarians (Behar)5.31
2German (Dodecad)11.62
3Romanians (Behar)11.76
4Bulgarian (Dodecad)13.65
5Bulgarians (Yunusbayev)13.99
6Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)17.35
7Dutch (Dodecad)18.43
8Ukranians (Yunusbayev)19.75
9Polish (Dodecad)19.86
10French (Dodecad)20.39
11French (HGDP)20.73
12CEU30 (1000Genomes)20.97
13Kent (1000Genomes)21.01
14Swedish (Dodecad)21.01
15English (Dodecad)21.17
16Mixed_Slav (Dodecad)21.83
17Norwegian (Dodecad)22.02
18British_Isles (Dodecad)22.08
19Argyll (1000Genomes)23.25
20O_Italian (Dodecad)23.41
Westcost
11-29-2019, 08:52 PM
PopulationAmerindian- Arabian0.74
PctArmenian- Basque- Central_African-
Central_Euro9.23 Pct
East_African- East_Asian-
East_Balkan1.86 Pct
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro17.05 Pct
East_Med6.43 Pct
Eastern_Euro12.55 Pct
Fennoscandian10.61 Pct
French3.82 Pct
Iberian9.16 PctIndo-Chinese-
Italian9.66 PctMalayan-
Near_Eastern1.50 Pct
North_African-
North_Atlantic0.44 Pct
North_Caucasian3.68 Pct
North_Sea10.03 PctNortheast_African- Oceanian- Omotic- Pygmy- Siberian- South_Asian- South_Central_Asian- South_Chinese- Volga-Ural- West_African- West_Caucasian- West_Med3.25 Pct
Dušan
11-29-2019, 08:57 PM
PopulationAmerindian- Arabian0.74
PctArmenian- Basque- Central_African-
Central_Euro9.23 Pct
East_African- East_Asian-
East_Balkan1.86 Pct
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro17.05 Pct
East_Med6.43 Pct
Eastern_Euro12.55 Pct
Fennoscandian10.61 Pct
French3.82 Pct
Iberian9.16 PctIndo-Chinese-
Italian9.66 PctMalayan-
Near_Eastern1.50 Pct
North_African-
North_Atlantic0.44 Pct
North_Caucasian3.68 Pct
North_Sea10.03 PctNortheast_African- Oceanian- Omotic- Pygmy- Siberian- South_Asian- South_Central_Asian- South_Chinese- Volga-Ural- West_African- West_Caucasian- West_Med3.25 Pct
According to K36, you best fit in Slovenia, Hungary and Czechia.
https://i.imgur.com/9pGdlhF.jpg
Ok super. Hellenic for fun. Y haplogrup R1a Posusje. Dalmatian Croat, not something else, as Herzegowina or Bosnia. Dalmatian Croat
You are typical.
Ne govoriš dobro engleski? Znaš li kojem tipu R1a pripadaš?
So far I noticed strong lack of western input in southern (Dalmatian/BiH) Croats. They are pretty Slavic with Balkan.
That's why Moldova shift on K13, most get it as number 1. there.
Croat average which is from Zagreb gets Hungarians closer because they have more western input.
My family is Hungarian instead of Moldovan shifted and we are pretty western, maybe Islands (and probably coast) are exception to this eastern trend among southern Croats.
Westcost
11-29-2019, 09:04 PM
Thanks. A much better answer than you are typical. Typical of what?
Thanks. A much better answer than you are typical. Typical of what?
Typcal for Dalmatian and BiH Croats.
War Chef
11-29-2019, 09:08 PM
So far I noticed strong lack of western input in southern (Dalmatian/BiH) Croats. They are pretty Slavic with Balkan.
That's why Moldova shift on K13, most get it as number 1. there.
Croat average which is from Zagreb gets Hungarians closer because they have more western input.
My family is Hungarian instead of Moldovan shifted and we are pretty western, maybe Islands (and probably coast) are exception to this eastern trend among southern Croats.
Usually the elites/nobles take all the good land and real estate. You can see that in Turkey even (original Seljuks took best beaches etc.) where east Asian genes are higher in west cost Aegean islands.
Dušan
11-29-2019, 09:10 PM
He is close to me in K15 diagram, but K36 maps are very different.
Westcost
11-29-2019, 09:12 PM
Typcal for Dalmatian and BiH Croats.
Ok Hvala mnogo bolje. Ne razumin eng. Samo R1a m417
Ok Hvala mnogo bolje. Ne razumin eng. Samo R1a m417
Dobrodošao :)
Westcost
11-29-2019, 09:20 PM
Dobrodošao :)
Hvala ;) Samo mi nie jasno kakvi su ovi-mi tipcini :)) kojoj vrsti pripadamo, slaveni, turci ili ovi helenjani?? Neman ti ja pojma
Hvala ;) Samo mi nie jasno kakvi su ovi-mi tipcini :)) kojoj vrsti pripadamo, slaveni, turci ili ovi helenjani?? Neman ti ja pojma
Miks Slavena i Ilira, ali više Slaveni nego Iliri :p
Why a Latvian? There is no Latvians in Moldova and they are not native to the country at all. It's almost like including a black African student into the national average, lol.
One sample from Moldovan average clusters with Latvians. Could be NW Russian.
Mingle
11-29-2019, 09:35 PM
I don't any more calculator results from the ones I'm about the post. Whatever I have is all the info I have. If I get more results, I'll post them here.
Ethnicity: Bosniak
Region: Tuzla
Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 36.86
2 North_Atlantic 22.55
3 West_Med 12.99
4 East_Med 11.14
5 West_Asian 9.82
6 Red_Sea 3.61
7 Oceanian 1.13
8 Siberian 0.89
9 South_Asian 0.88
10 Sub-Saharan 0.07
11 East_Asian 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.49
2 Croatian 5.46
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.53
4 Ukrainian 10.1
5 Hungarian 10.35
6 South_Polish 10.48
7 Serbian 10.53
8 Southwest_Russian 12.11
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.2
10 Polish 13.14
11 Romanian 13.28
12 Russian_Smolensk 14.13
13 Bulgarian 14.67
14 East_German 14.79
15 Austrian 14.8
16 Estonian_Polish 14.8
17 Belorussian 15.54
18 Kargopol_Russian 16.37
19 Erzya 17.22
20 Tatar 18.68
DNA Land
West Eurasian: 100%
Balkan: 48%
North Slavic: 32%
Mediterranean Islander: 11%
Northwest European: 9.4%
MyHeritage
57.4% Balkan
34.6% Eastern European
5.4% North and West European
2.6% Middle Eastern
Ethnicity: Croat
Region: Herzegovina
Eurogenes K13
1 Baltic 35.47
2 North_Atlantic 24.8
3 West_Med 16.21
4 East_Med 13.44
5 West_Asian 3.43
6 Red_Sea 3.06
7 Amerindian 1.39
8 Oceanian 0.78
9 East_Asian 0.63
10 South_Asian 0.58
11 Sub-Saharan 0.21
1 Croatian 6.09
2 Moldavian 6.72
3 Serbian 9.46
4 Hungarian 9.46
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.68
6 Ukrainian 11.5
7 South_Polish 11.7
8 Romanian 12.62
9 East_German 13.32
10 Austrian 13.36
11 Bulgarian 14.13
12 Polish 14.35
MyHeritage
Balkan 89.8%
Finnish 6.1%
Eastern Europe 4.1%
K13
1 Baltic 35.7
2 North_Atlantic 23.75
3 West_Med 15.49
4 East_Med 12.23
5 West_Asian 7.6
6 Red_Sea 2.32
7 Siberian 0.92
8 East_Asian 0.81
9 Amerindian 0.5
10 Sub-Saharan 0.43
11 Oceanian 0.26
K12b
1 North_European 43.89
2 Atlantic_Med 26.38
3 Caucasus 18.39
4 Southwest_Asian 5.4
5 Gedrosia 4.04
6 East_Asian 1.38
7 East_African 0.34
8 Siberian 0.14
Nice results, could be a Bosniak. And the Y DNA is cool too.
Pribislav
11-29-2019, 09:40 PM
Nice results, could be a Bosniak. And the Y DNA is cool too.
Here is example how bullshit is K12b dodecad.
Westcost is 43.89 North_European on K12b and HungryLion is 42.89. HungryLion ploting more northern on serious calculators K13 and K15. HL is 62% Baltic + NA on K13, and Westcost is 59%.
Mingle
11-29-2019, 09:45 PM
I don't any more calculator results from the ones I'm about the post. Whatever I have is all the info I have. If I get more results, I'll post them here.
Ethnicity: Bosniak
Region: Tuzla
Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 36.86
2 North_Atlantic 22.55
3 West_Med 12.99
4 East_Med 11.14
5 West_Asian 9.82
6 Red_Sea 3.61
7 Oceanian 1.13
8 Siberian 0.89
9 South_Asian 0.88
10 Sub-Saharan 0.07
11 East_Asian 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.49
2 Croatian 5.46
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.53
4 Ukrainian 10.1
5 Hungarian 10.35
6 South_Polish 10.48
7 Serbian 10.53
8 Southwest_Russian 12.11
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.2
10 Polish 13.14
11 Romanian 13.28
12 Russian_Smolensk 14.13
13 Bulgarian 14.67
14 East_German 14.79
15 Austrian 14.8
16 Estonian_Polish 14.8
17 Belorussian 15.54
18 Kargopol_Russian 16.37
19 Erzya 17.22
20 Tatar 18.68
DNA Land
West Eurasian: 100%
Balkan: 48%
North Slavic: 32%
Mediterranean Islander: 11%
Northwest European: 9.4%
MyHeritage
57.4% Balkan
34.6% Eastern European
5.4% North and West European
2.6% Middle Eastern
Ethnicity: Croat
Region: Herzegovina
Eurogenes K13
1 Baltic 35.47
2 North_Atlantic 24.8
3 West_Med 16.21
4 East_Med 13.44
5 West_Asian 3.43
6 Red_Sea 3.06
7 Amerindian 1.39
8 Oceanian 0.78
9 East_Asian 0.63
10 South_Asian 0.58
11 Sub-Saharan 0.21
1 Croatian 6.09
2 Moldavian 6.72
3 Serbian 9.46
4 Hungarian 9.46
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.68
6 Ukrainian 11.5
7 South_Polish 11.7
8 Romanian 12.62
9 East_German 13.32
10 Austrian 13.36
11 Bulgarian 14.13
12 Polish 14.35
MyHeritage
Balkan 89.8%
Finnish 6.1%
Eastern Europe 4.1%
It seems like there are two distinct clusters of South Croats. Those that score ~35% Baltic similar to Westcoast and this person, and those that score ~29% Baltic similar to some others I've posted. And these clusters exist in both Dalmatia and Herzegovina.
Westcost
11-29-2019, 09:47 PM
Miks Slavena i Ilira, ali više Slaveni nego Iliri :p
Znaci to je to. Vidis ima logike :)) Ovde kod mene je stara ilirska tvrdava na brdu, sa zdinama po 3m debeli ali ne dobro rarzusena. A nadena je i neka tvornica oruzija tamo u ta doba nez sad tocno, ugl bila je oko 50m velika a pripadala je gotima ili nekim langrobradima nez sad tocno. U nasim grobljima su takoder nadeni njihova oruzja, u posebnim nekim starim grobovima pokopani sa avojim oruzjem, neko njihovo sa dvi ostrice, samo na sridi ima za drzat. I dan danas su tu oko ti grobova nasi groblja, a takoder tu je isto bila ranokrscanska bazilika i to vise njih je kao bilo tu. To su nedavno kao "istrazivali". A pored te ilirske tvrdave je bio rimski neki hram sunca, prema skicama su mu stepenice bile sirine 20m i duzine oko 30m, po lokalnim pricama to je kao bio regrutni centar za rimsku legiju. A postoje takoder neki tuneli koji vode iz ti tvrdava doli u doline. Komunjare su to mnogo unistile i popljackale a da su neki englezi tili istrazivat alj su im zabranili. I da ta krscanka bazilika i to sve, pise da su unistene i arusene dolaskom slavena i opljackane. Eto nismo bas nesto dobri bili....
Here is example how bullshit is K12b dodecad.
Westcost is 43.89 North_European on K12b and HungryLion is 42.89. HungryLion ploting more northern on serious calculators K13 and K15. HL is 62% Baltic + NA on K13, and Westcost is 59%.
Not really. Hungry Lion has more North Atlantic (27%, I believe, not 23% like Westcoast) and i guess a bit less Southern admixture overall. You need to look at the entire results, not one or two components only. For instance I posted some mixed people, Indian/Pakistani + Northern European, they would score more North Euro than some Bulgarians or Greeks, yet they still plot far away from Europe.
All in all, it may be bullshit for you and for others but I personally still use it for my purposes.
Pribislav
11-29-2019, 10:02 PM
Not really. Hungry Lion has more North Atlantic (27%, I believe, not 23% like Westcoast) and i guess a bit less Southern admixture overall. You need to look at the entire results, not one or two components only. For instance I posted some mixed people, Indian/Pakistani + Northern European, they would score more North Euro than some Bulgarians or Greeks, yet they still plot far away from Europe.
All in all, it may be bullshit for you and for others but I personally still use it for my purposes.
HungryLion is 33.25 Baltic and 28.71 North_Atlantic.
North_European on K12b more recognize Baltic than North_Atlantic admixture.
On K12b part of northern dna is hidden under the Atlantic_Med.
HungryLion is 33.25 Baltic and 28.71 North_Atlantic.
North_European on K12b more recognize Baltic than North_Atlantic admixture.
On K12b part of northern dna is hidden under the Atlantic_Med.
Yes, the North Atlantic contains some Farmer DNA, I believe.
To be honest, I think Hungry Lion is far from typical. He is almost like Feiichy's parents (I can't remember the exact percentage).
Pribislav
11-29-2019, 10:24 PM
Yes, the North Atlantic contains some Farmer DNA, I believe.
To be honest, I think Hungry Lion is far from typical. He is almost like Feiichy's parents (I can't remember the exact percentage).
HungryLion is Banija Serb, they are geographically one of most northwestern located Serbs.
Tschaikisten was right when he said that autosomal usualy = geography.
Reposting my father, I can't see his results anymore (imgur link broken).
Ancestry: 50% Hvar Island, 25% NW Bosnia, 12.5% central Croatia, 12.5% NW Croatia
Admix Results (sorted):
1 Baltic 31.96
2 North_Atlantic 28.66
3 West_Med 15.44
4 East_Med 12.29
5 West_Asian 8.17
6 East_Asian 1.48
7 Amerindian 0.98
8 Siberian 0.59
9 Northeast_African 0.43
Single Population Sharing:
1 Hungarian 4.85
2 Croatian 5.11
3 Moldavian 5.12
4 Serbian 6
5 Austrian 8.82
6 East_German 9.54
7 Romanian 9.86
8 South_Polish 11.42
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.46
10 Bulgarian 12.24
11 Ukrainian 12.36
12 Polish 15.15
13 West_German 15.65
14 Southwest_Russian 16.24
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.54
16 South_Dutch 17.08
17 Russian_Smolensk 17.71
18 Estonian_Polish 18.19
19 French 18.57
20 Belorussian 18.65
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
1 56.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 43.5% North_Italian @ 2.2
2 66.2% Ukrainian + 33.8% Tuscan @ 2.54
3 57% Southwest_Russian + 43% North_Italian @ 2.59
4 69.1% Serbian + 30.9% Ukrainian @ 2.63
5 67.3% Serbian + 32.7% South_Polish @ 2.63
6 68.1% South_Polish + 31.9% Tuscan @ 2.65
7 83% Croatian + 17% North_Italian @ 2.7
8 71.5% South_Polish + 28.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.71
9 55.3% Croatian + 44.7% Serbian @ 2.73
10 53.9% Romanian + 46.1% South_Polish @ 2.76
11 73.7% Serbian + 26.3% Polish @ 2.78
12 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Tuscan @ 2.81
13 80.5% Serbian + 19.5% Estonian @ 2.87
14 70.5% South_Polish + 29.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.94
15 61.7% Bulgarian + 38.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.03
16 63.9% Ukrainian + 36.1% North_Italian @ 3.07
17 85.9% Croatian + 14.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.07
18 81.7% Serbian + 18.3% Lithuanian @ 3.08
19 68.2% Serbian + 31.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.09
20 61.3% Romanian + 38.7% Polish @ 3.1
His K15:
Admix Results (sorted):
1 North_Sea 26.36
2 Baltic 21
3 West_Med 11.94
4 Atlantic 11.22
5 Eastern_Euro 11.16
6 East_Med 10.39
7 West_Asian 5.87
8 Southeast_Asian 1.14
9 Amerindian 0.8
10 Northeast_African 0.13
Single Population Sharing:
1 Hungarian 7.01
2 Moldavian 8.79
3 Croatian 10.37
4 Serbian 10.55
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.36
6 East_German 11.69
7 Ukrainian 12.19
8 Romanian 12.48
9 Austrian 12.5
10 South_Polish 12.99
11 Bulgarian 15.03
12 West_German 15.26
13 Polish 15.7
14 Finnish 16.47
15 Southwest_Finnish 16.72
16 South_Dutch 17.52
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.54
18 Russian_Smolensk 17.6
19 Southwest_Russian 17.75
20 North_Swedish 17.9
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
1 86.6% Hungarian + 13.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.42
2 93.6% Hungarian + 6.4% Libyan_Jewish @ 6.55
3 95.1% Hungarian + 4.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.6
4 95.1% Hungarian + 4.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.6
5 95% Hungarian + 5% Samaritan @ 6.61
6 94.7% Hungarian + 5.3% Cyprian @ 6.65
7 95.6% Hungarian + 4.4% Kurdish_Jewish @ 6.68
8 95.5% Hungarian + 4.5% Assyrian @ 6.7
9 92.7% Hungarian + 7.3% Central_Greek @ 6.72
10 92.6% Hungarian + 7.4% Ashkenazi @ 6.72
11 95.6% Hungarian + 4.4% Jordanian @ 6.73
12 95.7% Hungarian + 4.3% Armenian @ 6.73
13 95.9% Hungarian + 4.1% Iranian_Jewish @ 6.73
14 95.8% Hungarian + 4.2% Palestinian @ 6.73
15 94.3% Hungarian + 5.7% Italian_Jewish @ 6.73
16 95.5% Hungarian + 4.5% Syrian @ 6.74
17 95.5% Hungarian + 4.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 6.74
18 93.8% Hungarian + 6.2% South_Italian @ 6.75
19 93.4% Hungarian + 6.6% East_Sicilian @ 6.76
20 94.9% Hungarian + 5.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 6.77
My entire family has high North Sea score, mine is highest, almost 28
Never seen south slav scoring more, it's more than east German average
Znaci to je to. Vidis ima logike :)) Ovde kod mene je stara ilirska tvrdava na brdu, sa zdinama po 3m debeli ali ne dobro rarzusena. A nadena je i neka tvornica oruzija tamo u ta doba nez sad tocno, ugl bila je oko 50m velika a pripadala je gotima ili nekim langrobradima nez sad tocno. U nasim grobljima su takoder nadeni njihova oruzja, u posebnim nekim starim grobovima pokopani sa avojim oruzjem, neko njihovo sa dvi ostrice, samo na sridi ima za drzat. I dan danas su tu oko ti grobova nasi groblja, a takoder tu je isto bila ranokrscanska bazilika i to vise njih je kao bilo tu. To su nedavno kao "istrazivali". A pored te ilirske tvrdave je bio rimski neki hram sunca, prema skicama su mu stepenice bile sirine 20m i duzine oko 30m, po lokalnim pricama to je kao bio regrutni centar za rimsku legiju. A postoje takoder neki tuneli koji vode iz ti tvrdava doli u doline. Komunjare su to mnogo unistile i popljackale a da su neki englezi tili istrazivat alj su im zabranili. I da ta krscanka bazilika i to sve, pise da su unistene i arusene dolaskom slavena i opljackane. Eto nismo bas nesto dobri bili....
Imali kod vas piramide jarane
@ for Leto
my dad K7b
Admix Results (sorted):
1 Atlantic_Baltic 65.12
2 West_Asian 16.59
3 Southern 15.83
4 Siberian 2.15
5 East_Asian 0.31
Single Population Sharing:
1 Hungarians (Behar) 4.3
2 French (HGDP) 8.33
3 French (Dodecad) 8.95
4 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 10.43
5 German (Dodecad) 10.63
6 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 11.52
7 Dutch (Dodecad) 11.56
8 Romanians (Behar) 11.7
9 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 11.92
10 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 11.93
11 Kent (1000Genomes) 12.13
12 English (Dodecad) 12.6
13 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 12.69
14 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 13.12
15 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 13.71
16 British (Dodecad) 13.82
17 Argyll (1000Genomes) 13.87
18 Irish (Dodecad) 13.96
19 British_Isles (Dodecad) 14.03
20 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 14.18
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
1 68% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 32% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 0.43
2 92.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 7.8% Turks (Behar) @ 0.48
3 92.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 7.8% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 0.56
4 70.1% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 29.9% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 0.77
5 62.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 37.4% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 0.8
6 72.8% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 27.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 0.8
7 68.8% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 31.2% Greek (Dodecad) @ 0.81
8 60.1% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 39.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 0.83
9 93.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 0.87
10 75.8% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 24.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 0.87
11 67.6% Belorussian (Behar) + 32.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 0.88
12 93.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 0.89
13 79.7% Belorussian (Behar) + 20.3% Samaritians (Behar) @ 0.9
14 94.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 5.8% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.91
15 73.4% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 26.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 0.91
16 93.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.2% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.91
17 93.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.3% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 0.92
18 56.9% Russian_B (Behar) + 43.1% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 0.92
19 93.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.3% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 0.93
20 64.8% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 35.2% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 0.93
Over 2% mongoloid is remarkable in Croatia.
Westcost
11-29-2019, 10:51 PM
Imali kod vas piramide jarane
Nemaml pajdo piramide ali imamo faraone ;)
We wiz Goths n shiet. Did they really leave a mark in the Balkans?
https://m.imgur.com/AqTjAl5
Mingle
12-01-2019, 12:03 AM
Ethnicity: Moldovan
Region: Northern Republic of Moldova
Y-DNA: I-CTS5966
Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 34.4
2 North_Atlantic 21.77
3 West_Med 15.61
4 West_Asian 12.12
5 East_Med 9.73
6 Siberian 2.2
7 Red_Sea 1.4
8 Amerindian 1.11
9 East_Asian 0.83
10 Oceanian 0.82
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.65
2 Croatian 6.62
3 Serbian 9.85
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.64
5 Hungarian 10.85
6 Romanian 11.78
7 Ukrainian 12.06
8 South_Polish 12.62
9 Bulgarian 13.09
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.72
11 Southwest_Russian 14.76
12 Austrian 14.94
13 East_German 15.16
14 Polish 15.5
15 Russian_Smolensk 16.85
16 Estonian_Polish 17.57
17 Tatar 17.62
18 Kargopol_Russian 18.01
19 Belorussian 18.51
20 Erzya 18.86
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.7% Moldavian + 5.3% Kabardin @ 3
2 95.2% Moldavian + 4.8% North_Ossetian @ 3.03
3 95% Moldavian + 5% Balkar @ 3.04
4 95.3% Moldavian + 4.7% Adygei @ 3.1
5 94.5% Moldavian + 5.5% Nogay @ 3.12
6 95.2% Moldavian + 4.8% Chechen @ 3.14
7 95.8% Moldavian + 4.2% Ossetian @ 3.15
8 96.4% Moldavian + 3.6% Abhkasian @ 3.16
9 95.3% Moldavian + 4.7% Kumyk @ 3.19
10 96.4% Moldavian + 3.6% Georgian @ 3.19
11 95.7% Moldavian + 4.3% Lezgin @ 3.23
12 95.9% Moldavian + 4.1% Tabassaran @ 3.29
13 94.4% Moldavian + 5.6% Chuvash @ 3.33
14 92.2% Moldavian + 7.8% Tatar @ 3.34
15 96.3% Moldavian + 3.7% Afghan_Turkmen @ 3.35
16 97.6% Moldavian + 2.4% Hakas @ 3.4
17 97.2% Moldavian + 2.8% Hazara @ 3.4
18 96.9% Moldavian + 3.1% Uzbeki @ 3.41
19 96% Moldavian + 4% Mari @ 3.41
20 98.1% Moldavian + 1.9% Selkup @ 3.42
Eurogenes K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.8
2 Atlantic 20.48
3 Eastern_Euro 17.52
4 West_Asian 10.79
5 West_Med 10.04
6 North_Sea 9.39
7 East_Med 6.72
8 Siberian 1.34
9 Amerindian 1.03
10 Red_Sea 0.96
11 Oceanian 0.63
12 Southeast_Asian 0.31
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 9.39
2 Moldavian 10.38
3 Austrian 11.63
4 Serbian 12.11
5 Romanian 12.32
6 Bulgarian 12.98
7 South_Polish 14.07
8 Hungarian 14.18
9 Russian_Smolensk 14.23
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.54
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 15
12 Southwest_Russian 15.23
13 Ukrainian 15.36
14 Polish 15.6
15 Estonian_Polish 16.53
16 East_German 16.55
17 Belorussian 17.07
18 Kargopol_Russian 17.58
19 Erzya 19.24
20 Tatar 19.74
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.9% Russian_Smolensk + 39.1% Greek @ 7.37
2 53.3% Bulgarian + 46.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 7.55
3 56.2% Estonian_Polish + 43.8% Greek @ 7.69
4 58.3% Bulgarian + 41.7% Estonian_Polish @ 7.69
5 60.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 39.6% Greek @ 7.77
6 54.2% Bulgarian + 45.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 7.82
7 66.9% Russian_Smolensk + 33.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 7.85
8 60.4% Bulgarian + 39.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 7.88
9 55.8% Bulgarian + 44.2% Southwest_Russian @ 7.89
10 59% Southwest_Russian + 41% Greek @ 7.91
11 68.3% Russian_Smolensk + 31.7% West_Sicilian @ 7.95
12 88% Croatian + 12% Kabardin @ 8.04
13 67.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 32.4% West_Sicilian @ 8.04
14 68.2% Russian_Smolensk + 31.8% Central_Greek @ 8.04
15 88.4% Croatian + 11.6% Balkar @ 8.04
16 70.9% Russian_Smolensk + 29.1% South_Italian @ 8.04
17 62.4% Estonian_Polish + 37.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 8.09
18 89% Croatian + 11% Adygei @ 8.12
19 86.4% Croatian + 13.6% Nogay @ 8.12
20 89.5% Croatian + 10.5% North_Ossetian @ 8.15
Eurogenes K36
Population
Amerindian 0.23 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian 1.51 Pct
Basque 2.96 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 9.95 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian 0.31 Pct
East_Balkan 10.96 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 15.50 Pct
East_Med 2.57 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.32 Pct
Fennoscandian 5.77 Pct
French 4.98 Pct
Iberian 13.21 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 0.99 Pct
North_Caucasian 10.33 Pct
North_Sea 4.50 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.98 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 2.88 Pct
Dodecad K12b
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 42.81
2 Atlantic_Med 25.69
3 Caucasus 18.12
4 Gedrosia 7.48
5 Southwest_Asian 3
6 Siberian 1.49
7 East_Asian 1.19
8 Northwest_African 0.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 6.47
2 German (Dodecad) 11.44
3 Romanians (Behar) 12.32
4 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 14.05
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 14.65
6 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 16.43
7 Dutch (Dodecad) 17.79
8 French (Dodecad) 20.07
9 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 20.26
10 Kent (1000Genomes) 20.31
11 French (HGDP) 20.44
12 English (Dodecad) 20.48
13 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 20.91
14 Swedish (Dodecad) 21
15 Polish (Dodecad) 21.1
16 British_Isles (Dodecad) 21.62
17 Norwegian (Dodecad) 21.83
18 Argyll (1000Genomes) 22.28
19 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 22.68
20 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 22.76
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 12.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 1.95
2 89.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 10.9% Iranians (Behar) @ 2.22
3 88.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 11.1% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.25
4 88.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 11.1% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 2.26
5 89% Hungarians (Behar) + 11% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.43
6 80.9% German (Dodecad) + 19.1% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 2.57
7 81.1% German (Dodecad) + 18.9% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.57
8 88.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 11.8% Turks (Behar) @ 2.85
9 78.8% German (Dodecad) + 21.2% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.92
10 87.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 12.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.94
11 89.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 10.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.96
12 88% Hungarians (Behar) + 12% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.98
13 80.8% German (Dodecad) + 19.2% Adygei (HGDP) @ 2.99
14 72.2% Swedish (Dodecad) + 27.8% Armenians (Behar) @ 3.02
15 51.7% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 48.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.12
16 90.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 9.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.12
17 90.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 9.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 3.19
18 87.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 12.1% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.2
19 66.9% Swedish (Dodecad) + 33.1% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 3.22
20 90.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 9.2% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 3.22
Dodecad K7b
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 62.68
2 West_Asian 19.07
3 Southern 15.12
4 Siberian 2.68
5 East_Asian 0.45
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 7.28
2 Romanians (Behar) 9.91
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.91
4 French (HGDP) 11.48
5 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 11.76
6 French (Dodecad) 12.09
7 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 13.35
8 German (Dodecad) 13.43
9 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 13.76
10 Dutch (Dodecad) 14.22
11 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 14.49
12 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.66
13 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 14.78
14 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 14.96
15 Kent (1000Genomes) 15.07
16 English (Dodecad) 15.56
17 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 16.41
18 Argyll (1000Genomes) 16.48
19 British (Dodecad) 16.69
20 Irish (Dodecad) 16.75
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 38.9% Russian (Dodecad) @ 0.42
2 60.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 39.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 0.6
3 77.2% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 22.8% Cypriots (Behar) @ 0.68
4 70.6% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 29.4% Turks (Behar) @ 0.78
5 86.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 13.3% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 0.82
6 70.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 29.5% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 0.83
7 86.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 13.6% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 0.84
8 62.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 37.1% Russian (Dodecad) @ 0.85
9 62.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 37.6% Russian_B (Behar) @ 0.86
10 87.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 12.9% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.87
11 79.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 20.1% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.92
12 65.1% Romanians (Behar) + 34.9% Russian (Dodecad) @ 1.13
13 86.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 13.3% Adygei (HGDP) @ 1.14
14 82% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 18% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.17
15 64.8% Romanians (Behar) + 35.2% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.17
16 78.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 21.3% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.18
17 81.3% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 18.7% Druze (HGDP) @ 1.22
18 69.9% Swedish (Dodecad) + 30.1% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 1.26
19 79.2% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 20.8% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.28
20 56.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 43.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.29
Pribislav
12-01-2019, 12:08 AM
Ethnicity: Moldovan
Region: Northern Republic of Moldova
Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 34.4
2 North_Atlantic 21.77
3 West_Med 15.61
4 West_Asian 12.12
5 East_Med 9.73
6 Siberian 2.2
7 Red_Sea 1.4
8 Amerindian 1.11
9 East_Asian 0.83
10 Oceanian 0.82
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.65
2 Croatian 6.62
3 Serbian 9.85
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.64
5 Hungarian 10.85
6 Romanian 11.78
7 Ukrainian 12.06
8 South_Polish 12.62
9 Bulgarian 13.09
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.72
11 Southwest_Russian 14.76
12 Austrian 14.94
13 East_German 15.16
14 Polish 15.5
15 Russian_Smolensk 16.85
16 Estonian_Polish 17.57
17 Tatar 17.62
18 Kargopol_Russian 18.01
19 Belorussian 18.51
20 Erzya 18.86
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.7% Moldavian + 5.3% Kabardin @ 3
2 95.2% Moldavian + 4.8% North_Ossetian @ 3.03
3 95% Moldavian + 5% Balkar @ 3.04
4 95.3% Moldavian + 4.7% Adygei @ 3.1
5 94.5% Moldavian + 5.5% Nogay @ 3.12
6 95.2% Moldavian + 4.8% Chechen @ 3.14
7 95.8% Moldavian + 4.2% Ossetian @ 3.15
8 96.4% Moldavian + 3.6% Abhkasian @ 3.16
9 95.3% Moldavian + 4.7% Kumyk @ 3.19
10 96.4% Moldavian + 3.6% Georgian @ 3.19
11 95.7% Moldavian + 4.3% Lezgin @ 3.23
12 95.9% Moldavian + 4.1% Tabassaran @ 3.29
13 94.4% Moldavian + 5.6% Chuvash @ 3.33
14 92.2% Moldavian + 7.8% Tatar @ 3.34
15 96.3% Moldavian + 3.7% Afghan_Turkmen @ 3.35
16 97.6% Moldavian + 2.4% Hakas @ 3.4
17 97.2% Moldavian + 2.8% Hazara @ 3.4
18 96.9% Moldavian + 3.1% Uzbeki @ 3.41
19 96% Moldavian + 4% Mari @ 3.41
20 98.1% Moldavian + 1.9% Selkup @ 3.42
Eurogenes K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.8
2 Atlantic 20.48
3 Eastern_Euro 17.52
4 West_Asian 10.79
5 West_Med 10.04
6 North_Sea 9.39
7 East_Med 6.72
8 Siberian 1.34
9 Amerindian 1.03
10 Red_Sea 0.96
11 Oceanian 0.63
12 Southeast_Asian 0.31
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 9.39
2 Moldavian 10.38
3 Austrian 11.63
4 Serbian 12.11
5 Romanian 12.32
6 Bulgarian 12.98
7 South_Polish 14.07
8 Hungarian 14.18
9 Russian_Smolensk 14.23
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.54
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 15
12 Southwest_Russian 15.23
13 Ukrainian 15.36
14 Polish 15.6
15 Estonian_Polish 16.53
16 East_German 16.55
17 Belorussian 17.07
18 Kargopol_Russian 17.58
19 Erzya 19.24
20 Tatar 19.74
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.9% Russian_Smolensk + 39.1% Greek @ 7.37
2 53.3% Bulgarian + 46.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 7.55
3 56.2% Estonian_Polish + 43.8% Greek @ 7.69
4 58.3% Bulgarian + 41.7% Estonian_Polish @ 7.69
5 60.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 39.6% Greek @ 7.77
6 54.2% Bulgarian + 45.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 7.82
7 66.9% Russian_Smolensk + 33.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 7.85
8 60.4% Bulgarian + 39.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 7.88
9 55.8% Bulgarian + 44.2% Southwest_Russian @ 7.89
10 59% Southwest_Russian + 41% Greek @ 7.91
11 68.3% Russian_Smolensk + 31.7% West_Sicilian @ 7.95
12 88% Croatian + 12% Kabardin @ 8.04
13 67.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 32.4% West_Sicilian @ 8.04
14 68.2% Russian_Smolensk + 31.8% Central_Greek @ 8.04
15 88.4% Croatian + 11.6% Balkar @ 8.04
16 70.9% Russian_Smolensk + 29.1% South_Italian @ 8.04
17 62.4% Estonian_Polish + 37.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 8.09
18 89% Croatian + 11% Adygei @ 8.12
19 86.4% Croatian + 13.6% Nogay @ 8.12
20 89.5% Croatian + 10.5% North_Ossetian @ 8.15
Eurogenes K36
Population
Amerindian 0.23 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian 1.51 Pct
Basque 2.96 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 9.95 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian 0.31 Pct
East_Balkan 10.96 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 15.50 Pct
East_Med 2.57 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.32 Pct
Fennoscandian 5.77 Pct
French 4.98 Pct
Iberian 13.21 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 0.99 Pct
North_Caucasian 10.33 Pct
North_Sea 4.50 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.98 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 2.88 Pct
Dodecad K12b
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 42.81
2 Atlantic_Med 25.69
3 Caucasus 18.12
4 Gedrosia 7.48
5 Southwest_Asian 3
6 Siberian 1.49
7 East_Asian 1.19
8 Northwest_African 0.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 6.47
2 German (Dodecad) 11.44
3 Romanians (Behar) 12.32
4 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 14.05
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 14.65
6 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 16.43
7 Dutch (Dodecad) 17.79
8 French (Dodecad) 20.07
9 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 20.26
10 Kent (1000Genomes) 20.31
11 French (HGDP) 20.44
12 English (Dodecad) 20.48
13 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 20.91
14 Swedish (Dodecad) 21
15 Polish (Dodecad) 21.1
16 British_Isles (Dodecad) 21.62
17 Norwegian (Dodecad) 21.83
18 Argyll (1000Genomes) 22.28
19 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 22.68
20 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 22.76
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 12.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 1.95
2 89.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 10.9% Iranians (Behar) @ 2.22
3 88.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 11.1% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.25
4 88.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 11.1% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 2.26
5 89% Hungarians (Behar) + 11% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.43
6 80.9% German (Dodecad) + 19.1% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 2.57
7 81.1% German (Dodecad) + 18.9% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.57
8 88.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 11.8% Turks (Behar) @ 2.85
9 78.8% German (Dodecad) + 21.2% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.92
10 87.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 12.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.94
11 89.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 10.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.96
12 88% Hungarians (Behar) + 12% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.98
13 80.8% German (Dodecad) + 19.2% Adygei (HGDP) @ 2.99
14 72.2% Swedish (Dodecad) + 27.8% Armenians (Behar) @ 3.02
15 51.7% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 48.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.12
16 90.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 9.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.12
17 90.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 9.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 3.19
18 87.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 12.1% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.2
19 66.9% Swedish (Dodecad) + 33.1% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 3.22
20 90.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 9.2% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 3.22
3% mongoloid on K13 (Siberian + East_Asian). Is that usual for Moldavians?
Moldovan average is legit. It may be middle point between outliers but those few presumably unmixed Moldovan references cluster close to it. Zmey also clusters close to it and he is ethnic Moldovan with no foreign ancestry.
War Chef
12-01-2019, 12:21 AM
The word "Sever" means north in Slavic.
but Srpski sounds nothing like sever.
Mingle
12-01-2019, 12:22 AM
Moldovan average is legit. It may be middle point between outliers but those few presumably unmixed Moldovan references cluster close to it. Zmey also clusters close to it and he is ethnic Moldovan with no foreign ancestry.
My guess is those from the southern part of Moldova will score very differently. The Moldovan samples on G25 are from a new paper and they are more Balkan shifted than Romanians and Bulgarians. I don't know exactly where they're from, but based on how Balkan shifted they are, my guess is they must be from the far south based on how they score. Also, I've noticed that all the Moldovan results posted so far (the few that have been posted) were from the north (maybe the central as well?), but none from the south.
Zmey Gorynych
12-01-2019, 12:22 AM
3% mongoloid on K13 (Siberian + East_Asian). Is that usual for Moldavians?
Where did you find him? Do you have last names.
3% mongoloid on K13 (Siberian + East_Asian). Is that usual for Moldavians?
Siberian seems high (which I don't score) but the rest is not too different from my result.
Moldovan average is legit. It may be middle point between outliers but those few presumably unmixed Moldovan references cluster close to it. Zmey also clusters close to it and he is ethnic Moldovan with no foreign ancestry.
An "accident"" that may turn to be very close to the real average.
My guess is those from the southern part of Moldova will score very differently. The Moldovan samples on G25 are from a new paper and they are more Balkan shifted than Romanians and Bulgarians. I don't know exactly where they're from, but based on how Balkan shifted they are, my guess is they must be from the far south based on how they score. Also, I've noticed that all the Moldovan results posted so far (the few that have been posted) were from the north (maybe the central as well?), but none from the south.
That's possible, especially the 3 southern counties bordering Romania.
Also I noticed extreme west (Croatia) and extreme east (Moldova) of ''Slavo-Vlach facade'' cluster very similary in terms of north/south ancestry, but pre-Slavic populations are big difference.
Btw, under Croatia I mean southern Croats only, as north Croats aren't part of this continuum.
My score
17 58.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 41.2% North_Italian @ 3.87
Moldovan score:
5 60.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 39.6% Greek @ 7.77
His fit is poor though. But my point is how we have almost identical percentage of NE Slavic input (and from same population), but our ''Vlach'' part is very different.
Mine is North Italian (Illyrian like), his is Greek (Thracian like). As you can see few pages back, my father scores almost exactly like me (Belgorod + N.Italy)
My guess is those from the southern part of Moldova will score very differently. The Moldovan samples on G25 are from a new paper and they are more Balkan shifted than Romanians and Bulgarians. I don't know exactly where they're from, but based on how Balkan shifted they are, my guess is they must be from the far south based on how they score. Also, I've noticed that all the Moldovan results posted so far (the few that have been posted) were from the north (maybe the central as well?), but none from the south.
For me they are strange not because of being southern (because my guess is they are southern Moldovans from Romania), but because of being western. They are close to Macedonian Slavs.
It doesn't make much sense to me. Seya is southern Moldovan and she is southern and also eastern shifted, and that makes sense considering history of the region.
Or maybe those sampled Moldovans were actually Gagauz, who are less eastern shifted than eastern Romanians, some can be pretty close to northern Ghegs for example.
Mingle
12-01-2019, 12:35 AM
Moldavian on G25:
Distance to: Moldavian
0.01156971 Bulgarian
0.01377735 Gagauz
0.01527017 Macedonian
0.01789432 Romanian
0.02316740 Serbian
0.02367849 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02544462 Montenegrin
0.02852215 Albanian
0.02965776 Italian_Northeast
0.03303618 Greek_Thessaly
0.03466196 Swiss_Italian
0.03664915 Italian_Veneto
0.03814865 Bosnian
0.03840922 Italian_Piedmont
0.03994586 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.04003371 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04094751 Greek_Thrace
0.04206752 Italian_Liguria
0.04324081 Italian_Tuscany
0.04385809 Turkish_Balkans
0.04442015 French_Provence
0.04457720 Italian_Bergamo
0.04660883 Greek_Peloponnese
0.04684453 Italian_Marche
0.04790778 Italian_Lombardy
0.04835672 Croatian
0.04893858 Italian_Umbria
0.05052985 Greek_Izmir
0.05141862 Swiss_French
0.05172244 Spanish_Mallorca
0.05196375 French_Alsace
0.05204697 Austrian
0.05257507 Slovenian
0.05269668 Italian_Molise
0.05349635 Swiss_German
0.05400107 French_Corsica
0.05437968 Hungarian
0.05449311 Italian_Lazio
0.05451816 Italian_Abruzzo
0.05461237 Spanish_Baleares
0.05473459 French_Auvergne
0.05495581 Spanish_Menorca
0.05503112 Spanish_Eivissa
0.05691434 French_Nord
0.05701035 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.05703943 Spanish_Girona
0.05720593 Spanish_Penedes
0.05831303 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.05942026 Sicilian_West
0.05944207 Italian_Apulia
They even get most Greeks and Italians before Croats and Bosnians.
It seems like there are two distinct clusters of South Croats. Those that score ~35% Baltic similar to Westcoast and this person, and those that score ~29% Baltic similar to some others I've posted. And these clusters exist in both Dalmatia and Herzegovina.
I noticed this. More Baltic shifted people are probably closer to original Slavic/Croatian population of Dalmatia, and those less are Morlaks in origins or have some extra Roman input from coast.
Morlaks were actually legit Vlachs before slavicisation (they were probably not very numerous) and later they were expanded to include South Slavic shaperds mostly.
War Chef
12-01-2019, 12:40 AM
I was going to make a thread about this earlier. On MyTrueAncestry Croats and Moldovans match each other, could just be shared north-south ratio %.
https://i.imgur.com/RMNUuZJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/sSnAKZv.png
Mingle
12-01-2019, 12:40 AM
The guy says he thinks he is 1/8 Russian by the way. It sounds like a family story that may not be true though. He didn't get any Russian regions (or regions from other Slavic countries) on 23andMe and all his relatives are only Romanian-speaking.
Also, he's I-CTS5966.
Pribislav
12-01-2019, 12:41 AM
I noticed this. More Baltic shifted people are probably closer to original Slavic/Croatian population of Dalmatia, and those less are Morlaks in origins or have some extra Roman input from coast.
Morlacks were actually legit Vlachs before slavicisation (they wewre probably not very numerous) and later they were expanded to include South Slavic shaperds mostly.
Dalmatian Croatians are mix of Bunjevci, Chakavians and assimilatted coastal Romance speakers.
Almost all Croatians from hinterland are Bunjevci.
Dalmatian Croatians are mix of Bunjevci, Chakavians and assimilatted coastal Romance speakers.
Almost all Croatians from hinterland are Bunjevci.
Not true. Štokavian =/= Bunjevac
Bunjevac identity never existed in Dalmatia, it's pretty irrelevant there. Bunjevci live in Bačka, Hungary and smaller part is in North Adriatic region in hinterland of town Novi Vinodolski.
Some are in Lika and Gorski kotar too, and they have specific surnames which Štokavian Croats from Dalmatia rarely have.
And these two clusters we are speaking about exist among both Čakavian and Štokavian Dalmatians.
Pribislav
12-01-2019, 12:50 AM
Not true. Štokavian =/= Bunjevac
Bunjevac identity never existed in Dalmatia, it's pretty irrelevant there. Bunjevci live in Bačka, Hungary and smaller part is in North Adriatic region in hinterland of town Novi Vinodolski.
Some are in Lika and Gorski kotar too, and they have specific surnames which Štokavian Croats rarely have.
Are you aware that Catholics from Dalmatian hinterland and Bačka Bunjevci are of same origin? They migrated from western/central Herzegovina first in Dalmatian hinterland and some stayed there, and some later moved to Lika, Gorski Kotar and Bačka. In Krivi Put near Senj exist football club "Bunjevac. " Ante Pavelić was Bunjevac from Krivi Put.
There is a lot of same surnames among Dalmatian hinterland Catholics and Bačka Bunjevci. Dalmatian Serbs called Catholics from Dalmatian hinterland Bunjevci.
Dušan
12-01-2019, 01:13 AM
I was going to make a thread about this earlier. On MyTrueAncestry Croats and Moldovans match each other, could just be shared north-south ratio %.
https://i.imgur.com/RMNUuZJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/sSnAKZv.png
MyTrueAncestry is unreliable source.
Moldavian average is closest to Serbian average, like K15 diagram say.
https://i.imgur.com/9wCxDr3.jpg
Pribislav
12-01-2019, 01:13 AM
Terms Bunjevac, Šokac, Dubrovčanin, Latin etc. were umbrella for Catholic Serbs, btw.
Terms Bunjevac, Šokac, Dubrovčanin, Latin etc. were umbrella for Catholic Serbs, btw.
Meanwhile term Serb is umbrella for Vlachs, Gypos and Turks.
Pribislav
12-01-2019, 01:17 AM
Meanwhile term Serb is umbrella for Vlachs, Gypos and Turks.
Kme kme
War Chef
12-01-2019, 01:18 AM
MyTrueAncestry is unreliable source.
Moldavian average is closest to Serbian average, like K15 diagram say.
https://i.imgur.com/9wCxDr3.jpg
Identity By Descent (IBD) would be more accurate. That thing I showed on my true ancestry only compares components.
It just so happens Moldovans and Croatians are both like 60% Hunter gatherer and 40% Neolithic or something like that, they are both about the same north:south ratio.
Dušan
12-01-2019, 01:21 AM
Identity By Descent (IBD) would be more accurate. That thing I showed on my true ancestry only compares components.
It just so happens Moldovans and Croatians are both like 60% Hunter gatherer and 40% Neolithic or something like that, they are both about the same north:south ratio.
Croats on average have less Neolithic.
60%-40% is percentage for western Serbs, like Moldovans. 55%-45% is for Serbs as a whole.
Pribislav
12-01-2019, 01:26 AM
Croats on average have less Neolithic.
60%-40% is percentage for western Serbs, like Moldovans. 55%-45% is for Serbs as a whole.
I think western Serbs on average are like Moldavians in terms of southern-northern ploting, but significant more western shifted than Moldavians. Like if you would more western shifted.
Dušan
12-01-2019, 01:28 AM
I think western Serbs on average are like Moldavians in terms of southern-northern, but significant more western than Moldavians. Like if you would more western shifted.
Yeah, I was talking in terms of southern-northern. Exactly.
Dušan, a western Serb, cluster like a full Moldovan, not like a western shifted Moldovan. His Vlach part is Greek like, thus Thracian.
Good proof of the fact western Serbs are not native population of Croatia.
Pribislav
12-01-2019, 01:35 AM
Yeah, I was talking in terms of southern-northern. Exactly.
Something like this Banija Serb.
https://i.imgur.com/0SPuOLR.png
To sum it up, whoever doesn't get North Italian/Iberian/Tuscan modeling for his Vlach side, Croat of Serb, isn't native here.
Pribislav
12-01-2019, 01:37 AM
Dušan, a western Serb, cluster like a full Moldovan, not like a western shifted Moldovan. His Vlach part is Greek like, thus Thracian.
Good proof of the fact western Serbs are not native population of Croatia.
Dušan is not typical for Krajina Serbs, because of his eastern ploting. Vast majority of Krajina Serbs are more western than Serbian average, often more western even than Croatian average.
If I remember well one Banija Croatian ploting wery eastern. On the other hand Banija Serbd are quite western shifted.
Dušan is atypical, because of his eastern ploting. Vast majority of Krajina Serbs are more western than Serbian average, often more western even than Croatian average.
If I remember well one Banija Croatian ploting wery eastern. On the other hand Banija Serbd are quite western shifted.
Doesn't matter, PCA is irrelevant. They can be west shifted because of Germanic/Celtic influence, which is also foreign except Celtic for NW Croatia.
Real Croats are NE Slavs + SW Europeans. Amen.
Like me. My Germanic is basically zero, in nutshell I am NE Slavic + West Mediterranean.
And that is why I cluster with Croatian average on Global 25.
Pribislav
12-01-2019, 01:42 AM
Doesn't matter, PCA is irrelevant. They can be west shifted because of Germanic/Celtic influence, which is also foreign except Celtic for NW Croatia.
Real Croats are NE Slavs + SW Europeans. Amen.
Western ploting Krajina Serbs is probably conected with solid amount of I1 haplogroup. Macura I1-Z63, Drobnjak I1-P109 is some other branches of I1 are common among Krajina Serbs.
Western ploting Krajina Serbs is probably conected with I1 haplogroup. Macura I1-Z63, Drobnjak I1-P109 is some other branches of I1 are common among Krajina Serbs.
Can be.
Pribislav
12-01-2019, 02:27 AM
Can be.
Most of Serbian paleo-Balkanic ancestors were obvious Illyrians.
Venetians have genetic similarity with Serbs, and Veneto was populated by Illyrians before Roman conquest - Venetians share large IBC blocks with South Slavs, specially Serbs (click on the link) https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?239582-8-GEDmatch-results-from-North-Italy&p=5302371&viewfull=1#post5302371
Dušan
12-01-2019, 07:31 AM
Dušan, a western Serb, cluster like a full Moldovan, not like a western shifted Moldovan. His Vlach part is Greek like, thus Thracian.
Good proof of the fact western Serbs are not native population of Croatia.
I don't have problem with that not being native in Croatia, when it is known that we are there from 16th century.
In most autosomal calculators my paleo-Balkan component in mixed oracle is Greek, but in some is Italian Tuscan.
Probably my Vlach component is mix of Thracians and Ilyrians, and maybe even some real Hellenics, because @vbnetkhio told me I fit well in mixed mode with Mycenaean and Minoan in his K36 calculator.
it's interesting how you get an equally good fit with Slav/Balt+neolithic, Slav/Balt+Greek, and Slav/Balt+north Italian. i'm not sure how to interpret that yet.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?305784-k36-2-way-ancient-oracle&p=6312196&viewfull=1#post6312196
Dušan
12-01-2019, 07:51 AM
Dušan is not typical for Krajina Serbs, because of his eastern ploting. Vast majority of Krajina Serbs are more western than Serbian average, often more western even than Croatian average.
If I remember well one Banija Croatian ploting wery eastern. On the other hand Banija Serbd are quite western shifted.
We need more tested people and then we could conclude what is average for Krajina Serbs.
I don't think my result is extremely atypical.
Pribislav
12-01-2019, 08:02 AM
I don't have problem with that not being native in Croatia, when it is known that we are there from 16th century.
In most autosomal calculators my paleo-Balkan component in mixed oracle is Greek, but in some is Italian Tuscan.
Probably my Vlach component is mix of Thracians and Ilyrians, and maybe even some real Hellenics, because @vbnetkhio told me I fit well in mixed mode with Mycenaean and Minoan in his K36 calculator.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?305784-k36-2-way-ancient-oracle&p=6312196&viewfull=1#post6312196
Still much before Feiichy's ancestors. Her ancestors came to Croatia in 20th century from Dubca. :)
Dušan
12-01-2019, 08:05 AM
Western ploting Krajina Serbs is probably conected with solid amount of I1 haplogroup. Macura I1-Z63, Drobnjak I1-P109 is some other branches of I1 are common among Krajina Serbs.
J2b-M205 is also strong among Krajina Serbs, especially in Lika.
https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?topic=1494.msg120292#msg120292
Maybe it could reason for more eastern plotting some of us.
Pribislav
12-01-2019, 08:06 AM
We need more tested people and then we could conclude what is average for Krajina Serbs.
I don't think my result is extremely atypical.
Number of Krajina Serbs whose results I have seen is not small. Some are close to Serbian average and some are more northern, and common thing for most them is fact they are more or less western ploting from Serbian average. Autosomal is mostly just geography, with some exceptions of course.
Pribislav
12-01-2019, 08:07 AM
We need more tested people and then we could conclude what is average for Krajina Serbs.
I don't think my result is extremely atypical.
Number of Krajina Serbs whose results I have seen is not small. Some are close to Serbian average and some are more northern, and common thing for most them is fact they are more or less western ploting from Serbian average. Autosomal is mostly just geography, with some exceptions of course.
Pribislav
12-01-2019, 08:12 AM
J2b-M205 is also strong among Krajina Serbs, especially in Lika.
https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?topic=1494.msg120292#msg120292
Maybe it could reason for more eastern plotting some of us.
J2b-M205 is significant only among Lika Serbs (it's about 13% according to last statistic of Nebojša among Lika Serbs) due to bottle neck effect and probably higher number of releted people tested.
J2b-M205 is native in Drobnjaci, holders of that haplogroup Kriči lived in Drobnjaci before Drobnjaci Novljani came from central Bosnia in late 14th of early 15th century.
Dušan
12-01-2019, 08:14 AM
J2b-M205 is significant only among Lika Serbs (it's about 13% according to last statistic of Nebojša among Lika Serbs) due to battle neck effect and probably higher number of releted people tested.
J2b-M205 is native in Drobnjaci, holders of that haplogroup Kriči lived in Drobnjaci before Drobnjaci Novljani came from central Bosnia in late 14th of early 15th century.
Yes, it is native in Serbian core area.
Pribislav
12-01-2019, 08:20 AM
Yes, it is native in Serbian core area.
Of course, Herzegovina (Old and which is part of BiH) is Serbian core. A lot of Serbs from various regions originated from Herzegovina.
Old Herzegovina became part of Montenegro in 1878, or we can say it's under the Montenegrin occupation.
Mingle
12-01-2019, 09:11 AM
Old Herzegovina became part of Montenegro in 1878, or we can say it's under the Montenegrin occupation.
Can we say Montenegro is under Montenegrin occupation? xD
Pribislav
12-01-2019, 09:36 AM
Can we say Montenegro is under Montenegrin occupation? xD
Of course.
In 19th century and early 20th century when Montenegro got present day borders it was full Serbian state, with strong Serbian identity and it was inspiration for Serbs from other regions especially for Serbs in Austro-Hungary. Old Herzegovinians and Brđani joined to Montenegro in 19th century, because Montenegro was Serbia state in every sense in that time, even more than Serbia.
Modern Montenegro is in the hands of anti-Serbian scums.
Westcost
12-01-2019, 11:07 AM
We wiz Goths n shiet. Did they really leave a mark in the Balkans?
https://m.imgur.com/AqTjAl5
Ubacio san tu podatke svoje, ako san to dobro napravio. I ispalo mi je ovo. Sad je li tocno nez
Your closest Ancient populations...
Scythian, Kievan Rus, Avars
I don't have problem with that not being native in Croatia, when it is known that we are there from 16th century.
In most autosomal calculators my paleo-Balkan component in mixed oracle is Greek, but in some is Italian Tuscan.
Probably my Vlach component is mix of Thracians and Ilyrians, and maybe even some real Hellenics, because @vbnetkhio told me I fit well in mixed mode with Mycenaean and Minoan in his K36 calculator.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?305784-k36-2-way-ancient-oracle&p=6312196&viewfull=1#post6312196
Looking at your oracles, I would say it is possible you have ancestry from Kosovo even if you don't know anything about it.
Kosovo native population (Dardanians) was mixed Illyrian-Thracian, and there could have been some Greeks as well who arrived during Dušan's Empire (for example Greek masters built lot of these monasteries for Serb population).
Dušan
12-01-2019, 11:37 AM
Looking at your oracles, I would say it is possible you have ancestry from Kosovo even if you don't know anything about it.
Kosovo native population (Dardanians) was mixed Illyrian-Thracian, and there could have been some Greeks as well who arrived during Dušan's Empire (for example Greek masters built lot of these monasteries for Serb population).
Maybe. :) Who knows, everything is possible.
Mingle
12-01-2019, 03:18 PM
We need more tested people and then we could conclude what is average for Krajina Serbs.
I don't think my result is extremely atypical.Can you post your K13 results again?
By the way, I posted the results of one guy who was 1/2 Lika Serb and 1/2 Vukovar-Srijem Croat that was very eastern shifted, he plotted close to the Moldovan dot (slightly west of it). He got 18% West Asian for some reason.
Dušan
12-01-2019, 03:22 PM
Can you post your K13 results again?
By the way, I posted the results of one guy who was 1/2 Lika Serb and 1/2 Vukovar-Srijem Croat that was very eastern shifted, he plotted close to the Moldovan dot (slightly west of it). He got 18% West Asian for some reason.
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.78
2 North_Atlantic 22.32
3 West_Med 18.56
4 East_Med 12.69
5 West_Asian 8.15
6 Siberian 1.73
7 Red_Sea 1.13
8 Oceanian 0.92
9 South_Asian 0.72
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Sardinian @ 3.52
2 60.5% Ukrainian + 39.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.89
3 67.8% Ukrainian + 32.2% Central_Greek @ 4.09
4 54.2% Bulgarian + 45.8% Ukrainian @ 4.12
5 94.6% Moldavian + 5.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.15
6 72.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 27.8% Sardinian @ 4.16
7 90.5% Moldavian + 9.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.16
8 71.1% Ukrainian + 28.9% South_Italian @ 4.17
9 84.3% Moldavian + 15.7% Bulgarian @ 4.19
10 93.9% Moldavian + 6.1% Ashkenazi @ 4.23
11 68.8% Ukrainian + 31.2% East_Sicilian @ 4.23
12 62.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 37.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.24
13 95.1% Moldavian + 4.9% Italian_Jewish @ 4.24
14 93.7% Moldavian + 6.3% Central_Greek @ 4.27
15 93.9% Moldavian + 6.1% East_Sicilian @ 4.27
16 94.6% Moldavian + 5.4% South_Italian @ 4.27
17 94% Moldavian + 6% West_Sicilian @ 4.28
18 95.9% Moldavian + 4.1% Cyprian @ 4.29
19 95.9% Moldavian + 4.1% Tunisian @ 4.29
20 96% Moldavian + 4% Moroccan @ 4.3
Westcost
12-01-2019, 07:33 PM
Wtf I am jewish 20%. I'm fu***ed up. I'll kill myself.
Please tell me this is not true
K13
Primary Population
1. 78.7%Ukrainian+21.3%Algerian_Jewish@1.92
2 . 74.5%Ukrainian+25.5%East_Sicilian@2.08
3 . 68%Ukrainian+32%Greek_Thessaly@2.13
4 .73.8%Ukrainian+26.2%Central_Greek@2.17
5. 54.5%Bulgarian+45.5%Estonian_Polish@2.18
6 . 76.5%Ukrainian+23.5%South_Italian@2.29
7 . 56.1%Ukrainian+43.9%Bulgarian@2.35
8. 58.2%Estonian_Polish+41.8%Greek_Thessaly@2.37
9 . 80.9%Ukrainian+19.1%Cyprian@2.38
10 . 51.2%Lithuanian+48.8%Greek_Thessaly@2.39
11 . 61.5%Bulgarian+38.5%Lithuanian@2.39
12 . 79%Ukrainian+21%Italian_Jewish@2.4
13 . 75.2%Ukrainian+24.8%Ashkenazi@2.42
14 . 80.8%Ukrainian_Lviv+19.2%Algerian_Jewish@2.43
15. 79.1%Ukrainian+20.9%Sephardic_Jewish@2.48
16 . 58.9%Russian_Smolensk+41.1%Greek_Thessaly@2.5
17.64.9%Estonian_Polish+35.1%Central_Greek@2.5
18. 54%Bulgarian+46%Russian_Smolensk@2.52
19. 80.3%Ukrainian+19.7%Tunisian_Jewish@2.52
20. 59%Ukrainian_Lviv+41%Bulgarian@2.57
Wtf I am jewish 20%. I'm fu***ed up. I'll kill myself.
Please tell me this is not true
K13
Primary Population
1. 78.7%Ukrainian+21.3%Algerian_Jewish@1.92
2 . 74.5%Ukrainian+25.5%East_Sicilian@2.08
3 . 68%Ukrainian+32%Greek_Thessaly@2.13
4 .73.8%Ukrainian+26.2%Central_Greek@2.17
5. 54.5%Bulgarian+45.5%Estonian_Polish@2.18
6 . 76.5%Ukrainian+23.5%South_Italian@2.29
7 . 56.1%Ukrainian+43.9%Bulgarian@2.35
8. 58.2%Estonian_Polish+41.8%Greek_Thessaly@2.37
9 . 80.9%Ukrainian+19.1%Cyprian@2.38
10 . 51.2%Lithuanian+48.8%Greek_Thessaly@2.39
11 . 61.5%Bulgarian+38.5%Lithuanian@2.39
12 . 79%Ukrainian+21%Italian_Jewish@2.4
13 . 75.2%Ukrainian+24.8%Ashkenazi@2.42
14 . 80.8%Ukrainian_Lviv+19.2%Algerian_Jewish@2.43
15. 79.1%Ukrainian+20.9%Sephardic_Jewish@2.48
16 . 58.9%Russian_Smolensk+41.1%Greek_Thessaly@2.5
17.64.9%Estonian_Polish+35.1%Central_Greek@2.5
18. 54%Bulgarian+46%Russian_Smolensk@2.52
19. 80.3%Ukrainian+19.7%Tunisian_Jewish@2.52
20. 59%Ukrainian_Lviv+41%Bulgarian@2.57
You also lack Illrian admixture
Westcost
12-01-2019, 07:40 PM
You also lack Illrian admixture
Šta su iliri židovi?
Šta su iliri židovi?
Your Vlach part is very southeastern but on the other hand you are very Slavic, more than me. But you native admixture doesn't fit pre-Slavic Croatian genetic profile.
vbnetkhio
12-01-2019, 07:56 PM
You also lack Illrian admixture
his results are very similar to these
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?284686-Croat-(Western-Herzegovina)-gedmatch&p=5934528&viewfull=1#post5934528
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299002-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-Eurogenes-results&p=6359290&viewfull=1#post6359290
results like these(close to Moldavians) overlap with Croatian core area:
http://free-zg.t-com.hr/Andelko/Slike/DAIzupanije.jpg
Westcost
12-01-2019, 07:56 PM
Your Vlach part is very southeastern but on the other hand you are very Slavic, more than me. But you native admixture doesn't fit pre-Slavic Croatian genetic profile.
Does it mean i'm not croatian? Native admixture.
Does it mean i'm not croatian? Native admixture.
You are more Croatian than me, because you are more Slavic. But your native part looks to be more Thracian like.
his results are very similar to these
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?284686-Croat-(Western-Herzegovina)-gedmatch&p=5934528&viewfull=1#post5934528
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299002-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-Eurogenes-results&p=6359290&viewfull=1#post6359290
results like these(close to Moldavians) overlap with Croatian core area:
http://free-zg.t-com.hr/Andelko/Slike/DAIzupanije.jpg
Second guy at least get Tuscan, which is still in range. How do you explain those eastern shifted native results, late Roman admix?
Or Vlachs from eastern Balkans?
These guys plot like NE Slav + Aromanian rather than NE Slav + Illyrian (like my family does). And usually Slavic input is very strong.
But I plot more north because my native part is significantly more northwestern unlike theirs, despite I am less Slavic.
Westcost
12-01-2019, 08:04 PM
his results are very similar to these
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?284686-Croat-(Western-Herzegovina)-gedmatch&p=5934528&viewfull=1#post5934528
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299002-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-Eurogenes-results&p=6359290&viewfull=1#post6359290
results like these(close to Moldavians) overlap with Croatian core area:
http://free-zg.t-com.hr/Andelko/Slike/DAIzupanije.jpg
On myhertige i have more Soldo surname as a relative. 1st cousin twice removed - 2nd cousin once removed. That name is from Široki Brijeg, there are many
Dušan
12-01-2019, 08:08 PM
Second guy at least get Tuscan, which is still in range. How do you explain those eastern shifted native results, late Roman admix?
Or Vlachs from eastern Balkans?
Catholicized and then Croatized Vlachs. ;)
Catholicized and then Croatized Vlachs. ;)
He is too much Slavic, but he seem to be without Illyrian admixture.
Dušan
12-01-2019, 08:12 PM
He is too much Slavic, but he seem to be without Illyrian admixture.
Probably partly settler from southeast Balkan.
vbnetkhio
12-01-2019, 08:14 PM
Second guy at least get Tuscan, which is still in range. How do you explain those eastern shifted native results, late Roman admix?
Or Vlachs from eastern Balkans?
90% Roman imo. it's too widespread. I don't think Romanians came to Croatia in such large numbers. but there were some.
K13
1 78.7%Ukrainian+21.3%Algerian_Jewish@1.92
2 74.5%Ukrainian+25.5%East_Sicilian@2.08
3 68%Ukrainian+32%Greek_Thessaly@2.13
compare with my father:
1 56.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 43.5% North_Italian @ 2.2
2 66.2% Ukrainian + 33.8% Tuscan @ 2.54
3 57% Southwest_Russian + 43% North_Italian @ 2.59
Big difference, isn't it?
Westcost
12-01-2019, 08:32 PM
He is too much Slavic, but he seem to be without Illyrian admixture.
That means, we didn't kill all the natives. ;)
bained
12-01-2019, 08:55 PM
Wtf I am jewish 20%. I'm fu***ed up. I'll kill myself.
Please tell me this is not true
K13
Primary Population
1. 78.7%Ukrainian+21.3%Algerian_Jewish@1.92
2 . 74.5%Ukrainian+25.5%East_Sicilian@2.08
3 . 68%Ukrainian+32%Greek_Thessaly@2.13
4 .73.8%Ukrainian+26.2%Central_Greek@2.17
5. 54.5%Bulgarian+45.5%Estonian_Polish@2.18
6 . 76.5%Ukrainian+23.5%South_Italian@2.29
7 . 56.1%Ukrainian+43.9%Bulgarian@2.35
8. 58.2%Estonian_Polish+41.8%Greek_Thessaly@2.37
9 . 80.9%Ukrainian+19.1%Cyprian@2.38
10 . 51.2%Lithuanian+48.8%Greek_Thessaly@2.39
11 . 61.5%Bulgarian+38.5%Lithuanian@2.39
12 . 79%Ukrainian+21%Italian_Jewish@2.4
13 . 75.2%Ukrainian+24.8%Ashkenazi@2.42
14 . 80.8%Ukrainian_Lviv+19.2%Algerian_Jewish@2.43
15. 79.1%Ukrainian+20.9%Sephardic_Jewish@2.48
16 . 58.9%Russian_Smolensk+41.1%Greek_Thessaly@2.5
17.64.9%Estonian_Polish+35.1%Central_Greek@2.5
18. 54%Bulgarian+46%Russian_Smolensk@2.52
19. 80.3%Ukrainian+19.7%Tunisian_Jewish@2.52
20. 59%Ukrainian_Lviv+41%Bulgarian@2.57
Shalom brother
1 53.4% Ashkenazi + 46.6% East_German @ 2.64
2 60.2% Hungarian + 39.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.65
3 75.1% Serbian + 24.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.66
4 78.5% Greek_Thessaly + 21.5% North_Swedish @ 2.81
5 50.5% Ashkenazi + 49.5% Austrian @ 2.82
Westcost
12-01-2019, 09:01 PM
Shalom brother
1 53.4% Ashkenazi + 46.6% East_German @ 2.64
2 60.2% Hungarian + 39.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.65
3 75.1% Serbian + 24.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.66
4 78.5% Greek_Thessaly + 21.5% North_Swedish @ 2.81
5 50.5% Ashkenazi + 49.5% Austrian @ 2.82
Sorry we are not brothers. Thansk :picard1:
bained
12-01-2019, 09:21 PM
Sorry we are not brothers. Thansk :picard1:
Don't fight it, 93206
Westcost
12-01-2019, 09:33 PM
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Russian_Dodecad +50% TSI30_Metspalu @ 2.927361
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian_Dodecad +25% Hungarians_Behar +25% Swedish_Dodecad @ 2.170581
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 French_HGDP + Russian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.697685
2 British_Isles_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Polish_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad @ 1.704459
3 British_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Polish_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad @ 1.705178
4 Cypriots_Behar + Irish_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad @ 1.706538
5 French_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.706664
6 Belorussian_Behar + German_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 1.706847
7 Lithuanian_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 1.715736
8 French_HGDP + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.726968
9 Cypriots_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP + Polish_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad @ 1.733741
10 Greek_Dodecad + Lithuanians_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Swedish_Dodecad @ 1.747283
11 Cornwall_1000Genomes + Cypriots_Behar + Polish_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad @ 1.790863
12 Cypriots_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes + Polish_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad @ 1.793307
13 French_Dodecad + Russian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.801643
14 British_Isles_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Hungarians_Behar + Lithuanians_Behar @ 1.806131
15 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Lithuanians_Behar + Norwegian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 1.809707
16 German_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Russian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 1.816665
17 Bulgarian_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad + Swedish_Dodecad + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.824781
18 Cypriots_Behar + English_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad @ 1.836414
19 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 1.838218
20 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Lithuanians_Behar + Norwegian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 1.839764
Westcost
12-01-2019, 09:39 PM
Don't fight it, 93206
What ist that? Jews you can be only over it mother line ;)
Mingle
12-02-2019, 04:01 AM
Ancestry: 60% Ukrainian, 40% Romanian
Region: Bălți, northern Moldova
Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 36.15
2 North_Atlantic 27.18
3 West_Med 11.95
4 East_Med 9.72
5 West_Asian 9.09
6 Red_Sea 2.43
7 Siberian 2.06
8 South_Asian 0.98
9 Northeast_African 0.23
10 Oceanian 0.22
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.4
2 Moldavian 4.71
3 Hungarian 6.52
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.73
5 South_Polish 7.48
6 Ukrainian 8.28
7 Serbian 10.07
8 East_German 10.77
9 Polish 10.95
10 Austrian 11
11 Southwest_Russian 11.18
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.43
13 Russian_Smolensk 12.8
14 Estonian_Polish 13.5
15 Romanian 13.8
16 Belorussian 13.96
17 Kargopol_Russian 15.12
18 Bulgarian 15.97
19 Southwest_Finnish 16.17
20 Erzya 16.97
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.7% South_Polish + 13.3% Syrian @ 1.78
2 86.7% South_Polish + 13.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 1.86
3 70.7% Russian_Smolensk + 29.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.04
4 85.3% South_Polish + 14.7% Turkish @ 2.06
5 53.3% Serbian + 46.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.09
6 87.9% South_Polish + 12.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.1
7 56.2% Serbian + 43.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.11
8 86.5% South_Polish + 13.5% Cyprian @ 2.11
9 52.7% Serbian + 47.3% Southwest_Russian @ 2.13
10 87.7% South_Polish + 12.3% Samaritan @ 2.14
11 51.9% Russian_Smolensk + 48.1% Romanian @ 2.18
12 82.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 17.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.18
13 88% South_Polish + 12% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.19
14 60.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 39.3% Serbian @ 2.2
15 87.5% South_Polish + 12.5% Assyrian @ 2.23
16 87.8% South_Polish + 12.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.24
17 87.3% South_Polish + 12.7% Jordanian @ 2.26
18 60.4% Serbian + 39.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.26
19 71.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 28.2% Tuscan @ 2.27
20 68.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 31.7% Romanian @ 2.3
Eurogenes K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.41
2 Atlantic 18.75
3 North_Sea 16.42
4 Eastern_Euro 14.38
5 West_Asian 8.52
6 West_Med 7.34
7 East_Med 5.63
8 Red_Sea 2.48
9 Siberian 0.95
10 South_Asian 0.77
11 Northeast_African 0.21
12 Oceanian 0.14
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4.29
2 Moldavian 6.89
3 South_Polish 7.54
4 Austrian 8.14
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.21
6 Hungarian 8.57
7 Russian_Smolensk 9.14
8 Ukrainian 9.28
9 Polish 9.75
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.02
11 Southwest_Russian 10.66
12 Serbian 10.99
13 Belorussian 11.75
14 East_German 11.76
15 Estonian_Polish 11.93
16 Romanian 12.35
17 Bulgarian 14.37
18 Kargopol_Russian 14.82
19 Estonian 15.17
20 Southwest_Finnish 15.3
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58% Russian_Smolensk + 42% Romanian @ 2.87
2 75.9% Russian_Smolensk + 24.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.94
3 62% Russian_Smolensk + 38% Bulgarian @ 3.14
4 74.7% Russian_Smolensk + 25.3% Tuscan @ 3.22
5 77.4% Russian_Smolensk + 22.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.33
6 77% Russian_Smolensk + 23% Central_Greek @ 3.39
7 79% Russian_Smolensk + 21% South_Italian @ 3.4
8 51.3% Belorussian + 48.7% Romanian @ 3.49
9 50.9% Estonian_Polish + 49.1% Romanian @ 3.58
10 77.4% Russian_Smolensk + 22.6% West_Sicilian @ 3.6
11 55.5% Belorussian + 44.5% Bulgarian @ 3.77
12 73% Russian_Smolensk + 27% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.78
13 73.2% Russian_Smolensk + 26.8% Greek @ 3.78
14 70.9% Belorussian + 29.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.83
15 81.3% Croatian + 18.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.84
16 71.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 28.1% North_Italian @ 3.86
17 73.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 26.9% Tuscan @ 3.87
18 60.7% Polish + 39.3% Bulgarian @ 3.89
19 55.4% Russian_Smolensk + 44.6% Serbian @ 3.9
20 84.1% Croatian + 15.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.92
Eurogenes K36
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 2.77 Pct
Armenian 3.09 Pct
Basque 1.29 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.88 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.37 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 19.78 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 12.10 Pct
Fennoscandian 10.40 Pct
French 0.51 Pct
Iberian 9.77 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 8.19 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.12 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 5.63 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.42 Pct
North_Sea 10.73 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 2.16 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.15 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 3.71 Pct
West_Med 0.88 Pct
Dodecad K12b
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 46.19
2 Atlantic_Med 23.74
3 Caucasus 16.52
4 Gedrosia 5.96
5 Southwest_Asian 4.99
6 Siberian 1.78
7 Northwest_African 0.52
8 East_Asian 0.17
9 South_Asian 0.13
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 4.64
2 German (Dodecad) 11.34
3 Romanians (Behar) 14.53
4 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 16.25
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 16.87
6 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 17.12
7 Polish (Dodecad) 17.39
8 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 17.71
9 Dutch (Dodecad) 18.65
10 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 18.94
11 Swedish (Dodecad) 19.29
12 Norwegian (Dodecad) 20.76
13 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 21.33
14 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 21.45
15 Kent (1000Genomes) 21.52
16 English (Dodecad) 21.54
17 Russian (Dodecad) 21.76
18 Belorussian (Behar) 22.25
19 French (Dodecad) 22.25
20 Russian_B (Behar) 22.34
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 7.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.63
2 91.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 8.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.7
3 93.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.8% Iranians (Behar) @ 2.71
4 93.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.8% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.75
5 55% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 45% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.78
6 93.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.8% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 2.79
7 93.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.8% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.83
8 53.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 46.3% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.88
9 94% Hungarians (Behar) + 6% Yemenese (Behar) @ 2.89
10 93.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.97
11 55.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 44.2% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3
12 94.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 5.6% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 3.01
13 94.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 5.8% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 3.03
14 93.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.4% Syrians (Behar) @ 3.06
15 95.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 4.8% Makrani (HGDP) @ 3.06
16 95.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 4.4% Saudis (Behar) @ 3.07
17 93.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.2% Jordanians (Behar) @ 3.08
18 94.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 5.8% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 3.08
19 95.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 4.9% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 3.1
20 92.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 7.1% Lezgins (Behar) @ 3.14
Mingle
12-02-2019, 04:02 AM
Looks like they may be part Jewish? They get high Red Sea and score 6-7% Ashkenazi Jewish on the JTest.
Ubacio san tu podatke svoje, ako san to dobro napravio. I ispalo mi je ovo. Sad je li tocno nez
Your closest Ancient populations...
Scythian, Kievan Rus, Avars
Odlicmo frajeru, Sto posto si Helenac xD Slabo ti radi slovo M na tastaturi ili sta ba.
Westcost
12-02-2019, 06:17 AM
Looks like they may be part Jewish? They get high Red Sea and score 6-7% Ashkenazi Jewish on the JTest.
J test 3% Askenazi
Maybe not at all R1a , these is on Morly dna, Can this help?
Morlydna
(Most likeyl)
R1a1a1
R1a-M417 (R1a-PAGE7)
K: K-M9 (K-PF5504, K-PF5493)
A1; A-L985 (A-L986, A-L989)
R1b1a2a1a2b3b
R1b-S47
R1b1a2a2b
R1b-L277
Wtf ist R1b s47, L277
Mingle
12-05-2019, 06:05 AM
Ethnicity: Bulgarian
Region: Ruse
https://i.imgur.com/C2vWsDk.png
Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.04
2 West_Med 18.48
3 North_Atlantic 18.11
4 East_Med 17.5
5 West_Asian 15.86
6 Siberian 1.67
7 Red_Sea 0.75
8 South_Asian 0.61
9 Amerindian 0.6
10 Sub-Saharan 0.31
11 East_Asian 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.79
2 Romanian 7.16
3 Serbian 10.3
4 Greek_Thessaly 12.13
5 Moldavian 12.26
6 Croatian 15.84
7 Hungarian 17.26
8 Central_Greek 17.93
9 Italian_Abruzzo 18.53
10 Tuscan 19.34
11 East_Sicilian 19.57
12 North_Italian 20.17
13 West_Sicilian 20.47
14 Austrian 20.48
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 21.51
16 Ashkenazi 21.61
17 East_German 21.96
18 South_Italian 22.45
19 Ukrainian 22.77
20 South_Polish 22.84
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.7% Bulgarian + 11.3% Kabardin @ 4.27
2 90.1% Bulgarian + 9.9% North_Ossetian @ 4.4
3 89.5% Bulgarian + 10.5% Balkar @ 4.42
4 89.6% Bulgarian + 10.4% Chechen @ 4.48
5 89.9% Bulgarian + 10.1% Adygei @ 4.5
6 76.1% Moldavian + 23.9% Armenian @ 4.54
7 90.4% Bulgarian + 9.6% Lezgin @ 4.65
8 73.5% Moldavian + 26.5% Cyprian @ 4.66
9 91.1% Bulgarian + 8.9% Ossetian @ 4.66
10 89.4% Bulgarian + 10.6% Kumyk @ 4.67
11 90.5% Bulgarian + 9.5% Tabassaran @ 4.68
12 89.2% Bulgarian + 10.8% Nogay @ 4.7
13 93.6% Bulgarian + 6.4% Kalash @ 4.81
14 76.2% Moldavian + 23.8% Assyrian @ 4.83
15 92.9% Bulgarian + 7.1% Abhkasian @ 4.85
16 94.2% Bulgarian + 5.8% Balochi @ 4.85
17 94.4% Bulgarian + 5.6% Brahui @ 4.87
18 92.6% Bulgarian + 7.4% Georgian @ 4.89
19 92.7% Bulgarian + 7.3% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.9
20 62.4% Central_Greek + 37.6% Erzya @ 4.9
Eurogenes K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 16.54
2 West_Asian 15.52
3 West_Med 15.05
4 East_Med 14.63
5 North_Sea 14.26
6 Eastern_Euro 11.2
7 Atlantic 10.47
8 Siberian 0.95
9 Red_Sea 0.63
10 South_Asian 0.34
11 Amerindian 0.3
12 Sub-Saharan 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 6.42
2 Romanian 6.83
3 Serbian 10.31
4 Greek_Thessaly 10.64
5 Moldavian 11.63
6 Greek 11.89
7 Croatian 14.74
8 Hungarian 15.81
9 Central_Greek 16.15
10 Ashkenazi 16.56
11 Italian_Abruzzo 16.57
12 Tuscan 16.7
13 Austrian 16.96
14 East_Sicilian 17.55
15 North_Italian 18.34
16 West_Sicilian 19.1
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.73
18 South_Italian 19.91
19 East_German 20.12
20 Ukrainian 20.69
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.4% Moldavian + 24.6% Armenian @ 4.89
2 88.6% Bulgarian + 11.4% Tabassaran @ 5.11
3 88.9% Bulgarian + 11.1% Lezgin @ 5.21
4 59.6% Moldavian + 40.4% Central_Greek @ 5.3
5 89.9% Bulgarian + 10.1% Chechen @ 5.33
6 89.9% Bulgarian + 10.1% Balkar @ 5.36
7 73.5% Moldavian + 26.5% Cyprian @ 5.37
8 89.8% Bulgarian + 10.2% Kabardin @ 5.39
9 88.9% Bulgarian + 11.1% Kumyk @ 5.42
10 91.1% Bulgarian + 8.9% Ossetian @ 5.44
11 76.1% Moldavian + 23.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.45
12 91.2% Bulgarian + 8.8% North_Ossetian @ 5.49
13 90.7% Bulgarian + 9.3% Adygei @ 5.49
14 76.2% Moldavian + 23.8% Assyrian @ 5.51
15 88.8% Romanian + 11.2% Balkar @ 5.54
16 91.2% Romanian + 8.8% Abhkasian @ 5.56
17 92.9% Bulgarian + 7.1% Abhkasian @ 5.59
18 90.6% Romanian + 9.4% Georgian @ 5.61
19 87.6% Romanian + 12.4% Kumyk @ 5.61
20 70.9% Moldavian + 29.1% Turkish @ 5.62
Eurogenes K36
Population
Amerindian 0.31 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian 6.25 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.24 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.10 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 10.11 Pct
East_Med 3.45 Pct
Eastern_Euro 7.31 Pct
Fennoscandian 4.82 Pct
French 3.76 Pct
Iberian 4.48 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 20.08 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 3.63 Pct
North_African 0.29 Pct
North_Atlantic 0.63 Pct
North_Caucasian 10.96 Pct
North_Sea 4.13 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.84 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.22 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.89 Pct
West_Med 4.51 Pct
Dodecad K12b
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 30.83
2 Caucasus 29.39
3 Atlantic_Med 24.66
4 Gedrosia 7.37
5 Southwest_Asian 3.29
6 Northwest_African 2.05
7 Siberian 1.14
8 Southeast_Asian 1.13
9 East_Asian 0.14
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 6.45
2 Romanians (Behar) 7.3
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 7.36
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 12.71
5 Greek (Dodecad) 14.64
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 17
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 17.4
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 17.56
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.04
10 Hungarians (Behar) 20.38
11 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.98
12 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.03
13 Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.13
14 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.22
15 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 21.53
16 German (Dodecad) 24.98
17 French (Dodecad) 26.79
18 French (HGDP) 26.84
19 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 27.29
20 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 27.45
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 8.4% Balochi (HGDP) @ 4.09
2 92.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 7.8% Brahui (HGDP) @ 4.1
3 91.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 8.7% Makrani (HGDP) @ 4.12
4 61.8% German (Dodecad) + 38.2% Armenians (Behar) @ 4.23
5 86.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 13.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.66
6 90.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 9.8% Pathan (HGDP) @ 4.85
7 86.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 13.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.85
8 94% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 6% Balochi (HGDP) @ 4.86
9 94.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 5.6% Brahui (HGDP) @ 4.86
10 93.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 6.2% Makrani (HGDP) @ 4.87
11 91.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 8.1% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 4.89
12 53.4% German (Dodecad) + 46.6% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 4.97
13 57.4% French (Dodecad) + 42.6% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 4.97
14 90.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 9.2% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.01
15 52.9% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 47.1% Armenians (Behar) @ 5.04
16 89.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 10.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.05
17 90.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 9.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.07
18 57.3% French (HGDP) + 42.7% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 5.09
19 91.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 8.6% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 5.11
20 88% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 12% Iranians (Behar) @ 5.14
A result of another Bulgarian from his region (Ruse) that was already posted before if you want to compare: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?279993-Bulgarian-Gedmatch-result
Mingle
12-06-2019, 06:43 AM
Ethnicity: Greek
Region: Aetolia-Acarnania
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Nomos_Etoloakarnanias.png/283px-Nomos_Etoloakarnanias.png
Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.76
2 North_Atlantic 19.69
3 Baltic 18.71
4 West_Med 18.63
5 West_Asian 15
6 Red_Sea 4.57
7 Siberian 0.65
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.82
2 Bulgarian 6.73
3 Romanian 8.78
4 Central_Greek 9.97
5 Italian_Abruzzo 10.15
6 East_Sicilian 11.46
7 West_Sicilian 12.41
8 Tuscan 12.43
9 Serbian 13.07
10 Ashkenazi 14
11 South_Italian 14.52
12 North_Italian 15.65
13 Moldavian 18.54
14 Sephardic_Jewish 20.13
15 Algerian_Jewish 20.47
16 Italian_Jewish 20.48
17 Hungarian 21.24
18 Croatian 21.69
19 Portuguese 22.91
20 Spanish_Extremadura 23.32
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.5% Central_Greek + 23.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.85
2 74% Central_Greek + 26% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.93
3 77.7% Central_Greek + 22.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.95
4 65.4% Central_Greek + 34.6% Moldavian @ 2
5 76.8% Central_Greek + 23.2% Polish @ 2.07
6 74.7% Central_Greek + 25.3% South_Polish @ 2.11
7 76.6% Central_Greek + 23.4% Southwest_Russian @ 2.12
8 74.5% Romanian + 25.5% Cyprian @ 2.12
9 80.3% Central_Greek + 19.7% Lithuanian @ 2.15
10 75% Central_Greek + 25% Ukrainian @ 2.15
11 68.9% Central_Greek + 31.1% Croatian @ 2.21
12 78.1% Central_Greek + 21.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.27
13 78.4% Central_Greek + 21.6% Belorussian @ 2.28
14 80.2% Central_Greek + 19.8% Estonian @ 2.32
15 69% South_Italian + 31% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.39
16 78.6% Central_Greek + 21.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.42
17 60.6% Bulgarian + 39.4% Central_Greek @ 2.43
18 53.4% Romanian + 46.6% Central_Greek @ 2.46
19 66% Serbian + 34% Cyprian @ 2.6
20 79% Central_Greek + 21% Erzya @ 2.64
Eurogenes K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 20.69
2 West_Med 14.6
3 Atlantic 13.93
4 West_Asian 13.75
5 Baltic 12.84
6 North_Sea 12.64
7 Eastern_Euro 7.11
8 Red_Sea 4.43
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.67
2 Greek 5.3
3 Bulgarian 6.16
4 Romanian 8.18
5 Central_Greek 8.79
6 Italian_Abruzzo 8.8
7 Ashkenazi 9.33
8 East_Sicilian 9.9
9 Tuscan 10.31
10 West_Sicilian 11.28
11 Serbian 12.04
12 South_Italian 12.48
13 North_Italian 14.42
14 Italian_Jewish 16.8
15 Moldavian 17.06
16 Sephardic_Jewish 17.36
17 Algerian_Jewish 18.22
18 Austrian 19.12
19 Croatian 19.12
20 Hungarian 19.36
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.6% Central_Greek + 25.4% South_Polish @ 1.15
2 76.4% Central_Greek + 23.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.26
3 77.8% Central_Greek + 22.2% Belorussian @ 1.33
4 76.3% Central_Greek + 23.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.34
5 76.5% Central_Greek + 23.5% Polish @ 1.35
6 74.1% Central_Greek + 25.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.35
7 68.7% Central_Greek + 31.3% Croatian @ 1.41
8 79.5% Central_Greek + 20.5% Lithuanian @ 1.41
9 77.9% Central_Greek + 22.1% Estonian_Polish @ 1.45
10 75% Central_Greek + 25% Ukrainian @ 1.45
11 76.8% Central_Greek + 23.2% Southwest_Russian @ 1.46
12 51.8% Romanian + 48.2% Central_Greek @ 1.47
13 73.9% Romanian + 26.1% Cyprian @ 1.57
14 66.3% Central_Greek + 33.7% Moldavian @ 1.61
15 59.3% Bulgarian + 40.7% Central_Greek @ 1.68
16 79.3% Central_Greek + 20.7% Estonian @ 1.86
17 62.4% Bulgarian + 37.6% East_Sicilian @ 1.91
18 57.9% South_Italian + 42.1% Moldavian @ 1.94
19 60.8% Romanian + 39.2% South_Italian @ 1.97
20 55% Romanian + 45% East_Sicilian @ 2.03
Eurogenes K36
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 2.16 Pct
Armenian 4.93 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.08 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 10.52 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 4.76 Pct
East_Med 13.97 Pct
Eastern_Euro 3.47 Pct
Fennoscandian 0.60 Pct
French 2.25 Pct
Iberian 10.91 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 16.91 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 3.50 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.67 Pct
North_Caucasian 5.52 Pct
North_Sea 4.89 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.63 Pct
West_Med 4.22 Pct
Dodecad K12b
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 29.65
2 Atlantic_Med 27.59
3 North_European 25.71
4 Southwest_Asian 9.53
5 Gedrosia 6.49
6 Siberian 0.58
7 Southeast_Asian 0.31
8 Northwest_African 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 7.03
2 Greek (Dodecad) 9.05
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 10.03
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.61
5 C_Italian (Dodecad) 10.96
6 Romanians (Behar) 11.06
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 11.93
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 12.29
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.7
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 14.79
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.01
12 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 15.59
13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 15.78
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 17.3
15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 21.27
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 23.01
17 Hungarians (Behar) 24.86
18 Baleares (1000Genomes) 25.41
19 Turkish (Dodecad) 26.02
20 Galicia (1000Genomes) 26.18
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 49.6% German (Dodecad) @ 1.45
2 58.3% Cypriots (Behar) + 41.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.65
3 58.3% Cypriots (Behar) + 41.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.44
4 62.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 37.1% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.5
5 73% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.84
6 73.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.4% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.99
7 75% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25% Russian (Dodecad) @ 3.02
8 53.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 46.9% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 3.04
9 78.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.3% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 3.08
10 82.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 17.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.13
11 75.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 24.9% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.19
12 77.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.5% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 3.2
13 82.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 17.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.21
14 78.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.4% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.21
15 51.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 48.3% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 3.22
16 79.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 20.9% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 3.22
17 77.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 22.9% German (Dodecad) @ 3.27
18 72.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.6% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.37
19 65.1% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 34.9% German (Dodecad) @ 3.38
20 78% Greek (Dodecad) + 22% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 3.4
WeirdLookingFellow
12-06-2019, 06:55 AM
Ethnicity: Greek
Region: Aetolia-Acarnania
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I'll add these results for you since you are interested:
(Full South Moldavian):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.67
2 North_Atlantic 23.23
3 West_Med 18.62
4 East_Med 18.12
5 West_Asian 9.95
6 Siberian 1.41
7 Amerindian 0.91
8 Oceanian 0.45
9 East_Asian 0.36
10 Northeast_African 0.18
11 Sub-Saharan 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.58
2 Bulgarian 4.21
3 Serbian 5.46
4 Moldavian 9.79
5 Croatian 12.53
6 Greek_Thessaly 12.55
7 Hungarian 12.77
8 Austrian 15.83
9 North_Italian 16.85
10 Tuscan 17.37
11 East_German 17.38
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.97
13 Italian_Abruzzo 19.08
14 Central_Greek 19.57
15 South_Polish 19.67
16 Ukrainian 19.99
17 West_German 20.02
18 West_Sicilian 20.27
19 French 20.52
20 East_Sicilian 20.89
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.7% Bulgarian + 14.3% Ukrainian @ 2.59
2 90.1% Bulgarian + 9.9% Estonian @ 2.63
3 78.9% Bulgarian + 21.1% Croatian @ 2.64
4 89.4% Bulgarian + 10.6% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.65
5 85.7% Bulgarian + 14.3% South_Polish @ 2.68
6 90.3% Bulgarian + 9.7% Finnish @ 2.73
7 90.6% Bulgarian + 9.4% East_Finnish @ 2.74
8 87.9% Bulgarian + 12.1% Polish @ 2.76
9 74.8% Bulgarian + 25.2% Moldavian @ 2.79
10 85.6% Bulgarian + 14.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.79
11 89.5% Bulgarian + 10.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.81
12 89% Bulgarian + 11% Estonian_Polish @ 2.81
13 90.8% Bulgarian + 9.2% Lithuanian @ 2.86
14 89.5% Bulgarian + 10.5% Belorussian @ 2.88
15 80.2% Bulgarian + 19.8% Hungarian @ 2.88
16 84.9% Bulgarian + 15.1% East_German @ 2.9
17 89.2% Bulgarian + 10.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.92
18 88.4% Bulgarian + 11.6% Southwest_Russian @ 2.94
19 61.9% Greek_Thessaly + 38.1% Ukrainian @ 3.01
20 90.3% Bulgarian + 9.7% North_Swedish @ 3.02
South Romanian , distant (1/8) German ancestry :
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 26.33
2 Baltic 21.61
3 East_Med 18.01
4 West_Med 14.72
5 West_Asian 12.14
6 Red_Sea 3.09
7 Siberian 2.41
8 South_Asian 1.08
9 Oceanian 0.51
10 East_Asian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 4.34
2 Bulgarian 6.22
3 Serbian 6.38
4 Greek_Thessaly 11.65
5 Moldavian 12.86
6 Hungarian 13.35
7 Tuscan 14.82
8 North_Italian 14.92
9 Austrian 15.42
10 Croatian 15.48
11 Italian_Abruzzo 15.81
12 West_German 17.57
13 East_German 17.69
14 Central_Greek 17.7
15 French 17.81
16 West_Sicilian 17.93
17 East_Sicilian 18.84
18 South_Dutch 19.17
19 Portuguese 19.39
20 Spanish_Galicia 20.09
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 33.4% Finnish @ 1.64
2 67.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 32.4% East_Finnish @ 2.11
3 67.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 32.7% Estonian @ 2.3
4 64.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 35.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.52
5 54.9% North_Swedish + 45.1% Cyprian @ 2.65
6 60.6% Central_Greek + 39.4% North_Swedish @ 2.7
7 62.1% Central_Greek + 37.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.77
8 58.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 41.6% South_Polish @ 2.84
9 66.2% East_German + 33.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.91
10 54.4% Hungarian + 45.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.95
11 69.3% Austrian + 30.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.95
12 57.1% South_Italian + 42.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.96
13 65.3% East_German + 34.7% Cyprian @ 3
14 57.3% Hungarian + 42.7% Central_Greek @ 3.01
15 68.4% Austrian + 31.6% Cyprian @ 3.01
16 71.6% Hungarian + 28.4% Cyprian @ 3.12
17 62.3% Hungarian + 37.7% South_Italian @ 3.14
18 72.5% Austrian + 27.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.18
19 69.5% East_German + 30.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.19
20 65.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 34.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.21
Mingle
12-06-2019, 07:00 AM
I'll add these results for you since you are interested:
(Full South Moldavian):
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# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.67
2 North_Atlantic 23.23
3 West_Med 18.62
4 East_Med 18.12
5 West_Asian 9.95
6 Siberian 1.41
7 Amerindian 0.91
8 Oceanian 0.45
9 East_Asian 0.36
10 Northeast_African 0.18
11 Sub-Saharan 0.1
From Romania or Bessarabia/Republic of Moldova?
WeirdLookingFellow
12-06-2019, 07:03 AM
From Romania or Bessarabia/Republic of Moldova?
Romania, sorry for not specifying. Vrancea/Galati/Vaslui area.
CommonSense
12-06-2019, 02:13 PM
Results from Crnaja, Cazin county in northwestern Bosnia. The person in question is an old woman whose parents immigrated to France in the first half of the 20th century. I assume she's Serbian, since only Serbs and Bosniaks ever lived in that village.
Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.17
2 North_Atlantic 26.05
3 West_Med 16.98
4 West_Asian 11.71
5 East_Med 10.79
6 Siberian 1.77
7 Red_Sea 1.03
8 Oceanian 0.98
9 South_Asian 0.44
10 Amerindian 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.41
2 Serbian 5.78
3 Croatian 7.03
4 Hungarian 7.99
5 Romanian 8.33
6 Bulgarian 10.55
7 Austrian 11.06
8 East_German 12.07
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.99
10 South_Polish 13.86
11 Ukrainian 14.44
12 West_German 17.17
13 Polish 17.42
14 Southwest_Russian 18.02
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.09
16 South_Dutch 18.57
17 Greek_Thessaly 19.09
18 French 19.43
19 Russian_Smolensk 19.63
20 Tatar 20.27
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.6% Moldavian + 14.4% North_Italian @ 2.76
2 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.76
3 88.8% Moldavian + 11.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.93
4 88.1% Moldavian + 11.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.97
5 89.8% Moldavian + 10.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.98
6 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.99
7 88.6% Moldavian + 11.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.01
8 87.5% Moldavian + 12.5% Tuscan @ 3.02
9 88.7% Moldavian + 11.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.02
10 88.9% Moldavian + 11.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.05
11 87.8% Moldavian + 12.2% Portuguese @ 3.07
12 92.3% Moldavian + 7.7% French_Basque @ 3.1
13 88.6% Moldavian + 11.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.1
14 89% Moldavian + 11% Southwest_French @ 3.12
15 88.1% Moldavian + 11.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.16
16 89% Moldavian + 11% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.2
17 72% Moldavian + 28% Romanian @ 3.25
18 61.8% Moldavian + 38.2% Serbian @ 3.29
19 86.7% Moldavian + 13.3% French @ 3.29
20 93.6% Moldavian + 6.4% Sardinian @ 3.31
Eurogenes K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 19.49
2 Atlantic 18.89
3 Eastern_Euro 14.16
4 North_Sea 13.98
5 West_Med 12.33
6 West_Asian 10.59
7 East_Med 8.23
8 Siberian 1
9 Oceanian 0.78
10 Red_Sea 0.56
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 6.71
2 Moldavian 6.89
3 Serbian 7.42
4 Romanian 7.77
5 Austrian 8.6
6 Bulgarian 9.18
7 Hungarian 10.2
8 East_German 13.12
9 South_Polish 13.14
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.49
11 Ukrainian 14.17
12 Russian_Smolensk 15.25
13 Polish 15.47
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.65
15 Southwest_Russian 16.32
16 Greek 17.48
17 Estonian_Polish 17.75
18 Greek_Thessaly 17.95
19 Belorussian 17.97
20 North_Italian 18.67
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.8% Croatian + 39.2% Bulgarian @ 4.12
2 76.5% Croatian + 23.5% Greek @ 4.21
3 64.5% Bulgarian + 35.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.47
4 86.8% Croatian + 13.2% Turkish @ 4.51
5 81.4% Croatian + 18.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.53
6 64.9% Bulgarian + 35.1% Polish @ 4.53
7 56.1% Croatian + 43.9% Romanian @ 4.56
8 82.4% Croatian + 17.6% Central_Greek @ 4.6
9 68.3% Bulgarian + 31.7% Estonian_Polish @ 4.61
10 84.5% Croatian + 15.5% South_Italian @ 4.63
11 56.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 43.5% Tuscan @ 4.65
12 60.9% Bulgarian + 39.1% South_Polish @ 4.69
13 82.9% Croatian + 17.1% West_Sicilian @ 4.71
14 70.1% Romanian + 29.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.71
15 89.7% Croatian + 10.3% Armenian @ 4.77
16 83.5% Croatian + 16.5% East_Sicilian @ 4.78
17 73.7% Romanian + 26.3% Estonian_Polish @ 4.8
18 91.2% Croatian + 8.8% Abhkasian @ 4.85
19 88.8% Croatian + 11.2% Cyprian @ 4.86
20 80.7% Croatian + 19.3% Tuscan @ 4.86
vbnetkhio
12-09-2019, 01:09 PM
Serb with ancestry from Kragujevac and Gornji Milanovac areas:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Municipalities_of_Serbia_Aerodrom.png/250px-Municipalities_of_Serbia_Aerodrom.png
28-29 Baltic is typical for 90% Serbs from any region, from East Serbia to Central Croatia.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.83
2 North_Atlantic 24.57
3 West_Med 19.59
4 East_Med 14.75
5 West_Asian 8.12
6 Red_Sea 1.65
7 Siberian 1.35
8 Amerindian 0.73
9 Oceanian 0.41
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.68
2 Romanian 6.01
3 Moldavian 7.25
4 Bulgarian 7.68
5 Croatian 9.5
6 Hungarian 10.35
7 Austrian 13.25
8 East_German 14.47
9 Greek_Thessaly 15.68
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.93
11 South_Polish 16.79
12 Ukrainian 17.07
13 North_Italian 17.74
14 West_German 18.49
15 French 19.24
16 Tuscan 19.4
17 South_Dutch 19.8
18 Polish 20.21
19 Southwest_Russian 20.69
20 Portuguese 21.04
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.3% Moldavian + 14.7% Sardinian @ 2.72
2 74.5% Moldavian + 25.5% Tuscan @ 3.09
3 72.9% Moldavian + 27.1% North_Italian @ 3.22
4 57.7% Ukrainian + 42.3% West_Sicilian @ 3.24
5 71.9% Croatian + 28.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.26
6 63.2% Croatian + 36.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.27
7 75.1% Croatian + 24.9% South_Italian @ 3.44
8 68.3% Croatian + 31.7% Tuscan @ 3.46
9 53.3% Ukrainian + 46.7% Tuscan @ 3.49
10 52.2% Greek_Thessaly + 47.8% Ukrainian @ 3.6
11 71.9% Croatian + 28.1% Central_Greek @ 3.63
12 59.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 40.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.65
13 78.4% Moldavian + 21.6% West_Sicilian @ 3.65
14 56.5% Bulgarian + 43.5% Croatian @ 3.65
15 78.4% Croatian + 21.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.65
16 73% Croatian + 27% East_Sicilian @ 3.7
17 55.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 44.9% Tuscan @ 3.74
18 65% Romanian + 35% Croatian @ 3.74
19 61.6% Ukrainian + 38.4% South_Italian @ 3.77
20 51.7% Tuscan + 48.3% Southwest_Russian @ 3.8
vbnetkhio
12-09-2019, 01:13 PM
Slovenian from Northeast Slovenia (near Austrian border):
very Slavic. but still gets Croatian first.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 39.06
2 North_Atlantic 29.79
3 East_Med 11.87
4 West_Med 11.22
5 West_Asian 5.69
6 Amerindian 1.24
7 Oceanian 0.7
8 Sub-Saharan 0.28
9 Northeast_African 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 5.67
2 South_Polish 5.96
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.1
4 Ukrainian 7.22
5 Hungarian 7.53
6 Moldavian 8.73
7 Polish 9.18
8 Southwest_Russian 10.04
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.7
10 East_German 10.73
11 Russian_Smolensk 11.38
12 Austrian 11.54
13 Estonian_Polish 11.62
14 Belorussian 11.74
15 Serbian 12.64
16 Southwest_Finnish 14.32
17 Kargopol_Russian 15.1
18 Estonian 15.56
19 Finnish 16.03
20 Lithuanian 16.45
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73% Belorussian + 27% Tuscan @ 3.32
2 52% Belorussian + 48% Serbian @ 3.4
3 87.9% South_Polish + 12.1% Ashkenazi @ 3.41
4 89.8% South_Polish + 10.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.44
5 90.7% South_Polish + 9.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.6
6 91.8% South_Polish + 8.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.62
7 90.1% South_Polish + 9.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.63
8 90.8% South_Polish + 9.2% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.65
9 59.1% Belorussian + 40.9% Romanian @ 3.65
10 90.2% South_Polish + 9.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.67
11 75.5% Belorussian + 24.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.71
12 65.5% Lithuanian + 34.5% Tuscan @ 3.71
13 74.7% Belorussian + 25.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.72
14 83.6% Polish + 16.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.72
15 57% Serbian + 43% Lithuanian @ 3.73
16 81% Polish + 19% Ashkenazi @ 3.76
17 58.8% Hungarian + 41.2% Southwest_Russian @ 3.77
18 92.3% South_Polish + 7.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.79
19 54.6% Estonian + 45.4% Bulgarian @ 3.8
20 85.4% South_Polish + 14.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.81
Mingle
12-09-2019, 08:13 PM
Ethnicity: Croat
Region: Zadar
Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.28
2 North_Atlantic 25.93
3 East_Med 15.45
4 West_Med 15.29
5 West_Asian 8.09
6 South_Asian 1.61
7 Red_Sea 0.93
8 East_Asian 0.76
9 Amerindian 0.46
10 Oceanian 0.2
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.38
2 Moldavian 5.41
3 Croatian 6.9
4 Romanian 7.5
5 Hungarian 7.71
6 Bulgarian 9.46
7 Austrian 11.74
8 East_German 12.73
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.33
10 South_Polish 13.7
11 Ukrainian 14.32
12 Polish 17.31
13 Southwest_Russian 17.55
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.88
15 West_German 17.94
16 Greek_Thessaly 18.01
17 Russian_Smolensk 19.35
18 South_Dutch 19.47
19 Estonian_Polish 19.76
20 French 20.07
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.9% South_Polish + 43.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.7
2 80.5% Croatian + 19.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.17
3 59.5% Bulgarian + 40.5% South_Polish @ 2.17
4 68.4% South_Polish + 31.6% South_Italian @ 2.18
5 73.8% Romanian + 26.2% Belorussian @ 2.25
6 51% Polish + 49% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.25
7 84% Croatian + 16% Italian_Jewish @ 2.26
8 71.7% South_Polish + 28.3% Italian_Jewish @ 2.29
9 64.3% Ukrainian + 35.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.29
10 73.3% Romanian + 26.7% Estonian_Polish @ 2.29
11 55.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 44.6% Tuscan @ 2.31
12 77.7% Romanian + 22.3% Lithuanian @ 2.35
13 71.8% South_Polish + 28.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.36
14 65% South_Polish + 35% Central_Greek @ 2.37
15 66.5% Romanian + 33.5% Ukrainian @ 2.4
16 65.2% Bulgarian + 34.8% Polish @ 2.42
17 66% South_Polish + 34% East_Sicilian @ 2.42
18 66.8% South_Polish + 33.2% Ashkenazi @ 2.45
19 55.8% Southwest_Russian + 44.2% Tuscan @ 2.45
20 55.8% Ukrainian + 44.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.46
Eurogenes K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 21.97
2 Baltic 21.65
3 East_Med 13.41
4 Atlantic 12.16
5 West_Med 12.08
6 Eastern_Euro 10.49
7 West_Asian 5.7
8 South_Asian 1.63
9 Red_Sea 0.56
10 Southeast_Asian 0.26
11 Amerindian 0.1
12 Oceanian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.79
2 Hungarian 8
3 Serbian 8.61
4 Croatian 9.4
5 Romanian 9.51
6 Bulgarian 11.51
7 Austrian 11.87
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.2
9 Ukrainian 13.2
10 East_German 13.47
11 South_Polish 13.61
12 Greek_Thessaly 16.29
13 Polish 16.38
14 Russian_Smolensk 17.42
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.5
16 West_German 17.66
17 Southwest_Russian 17.83
18 Greek 18.81
19 Finnish 18.87
20 Southwest_Finnish 18.9
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.3% Greek_Thessaly + 44.7% Estonian @ 4.42
2 55.8% Ukrainian + 44.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.61
3 58% Ukrainian_Lviv + 42% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.63
4 55.1% South_Polish + 44.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.31
5 70.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 29.5% South_Italian @ 5.4
6 68.5% Ukrainian + 31.5% South_Italian @ 5.41
7 73% Ukrainian_Lviv + 27% Italian_Jewish @ 5.42
8 71.2% Ukrainian + 28.8% Italian_Jewish @ 5.53
9 72.6% Hungarian + 27.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.53
10 57.6% Greek_Thessaly + 42.4% Lithuanian @ 5.56
11 75.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 24.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 5.6
12 67.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 32.3% Central_Greek @ 5.62
13 74.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.64
14 65.5% Ukrainian + 34.5% Central_Greek @ 5.64
15 50.2% Greek_Thessaly + 49.8% Polish @ 5.65
16 66.3% Ukrainian + 33.7% East_Sicilian @ 5.66
17 68.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 31.5% East_Sicilian @ 5.68
18 73.9% Ukrainian + 26.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 5.68
19 88.3% Hungarian + 11.7% Samaritan @ 5.82
20 72.3% Ukrainian + 27.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.84
Mingle
12-09-2019, 08:18 PM
Ethnicity: 1/2 Bulgarian, 1/2 Romanian
Region: Bessarabia/Moldova
Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.08
2 North_Atlantic 21.18
3 East_Med 18.09
4 West_Med 15.75
5 West_Asian 11.49
6 Red_Sea 1.22
7 South_Asian 1.04
8 Siberian 0.65
9 East_Asian 0.56
10 Amerindian 0.51
11 Oceanian 0.32
12 Northeast_African 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 5.17
2 Bulgarian 5.31
3 Serbian 6.22
4 Moldavian 8.37
5 Croatian 11.46
6 Hungarian 12.85
7 Greek_Thessaly 13.99
8 Austrian 16.73
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.41
10 East_German 18.06
11 South_Polish 18.4
12 Ukrainian 18.54
13 Tuscan 20.27
14 North_Italian 20.38
15 Italian_Abruzzo 20.77
16 Central_Greek 20.78
17 Southwest_Russian 21.02
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.16
19 Polish 21.83
20 West_German 21.93
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.6% Bulgarian + 16.4% Erzya @ 1.62
2 80.7% Bulgarian + 19.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.68
3 60.3% Greek_Thessaly + 39.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.72
4 80.7% Bulgarian + 19.3% Southwest_Russian @ 1.73
5 50.3% Central_Greek + 49.7% Southwest_Russian @ 1.91
6 54.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 45.6% South_Italian @ 1.97
7 50.5% Central_Greek + 49.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.01
8 85.4% Bulgarian + 14.6% Lithuanian @ 2.04
9 83.6% Bulgarian + 16.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.04
10 60.2% Greek_Thessaly + 39.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.11
11 54.6% Southwest_Russian + 45.4% South_Italian @ 2.13
12 83% Bulgarian + 17% Estonian_Polish @ 2.13
13 82.7% Bulgarian + 17.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.13
14 65.5% Ukrainian + 34.5% Cyprian @ 2.17
15 83.4% Bulgarian + 16.6% Belorussian @ 2.22
16 58.2% Central_Greek + 41.8% Lithuanian @ 2.31
17 79.5% Bulgarian + 20.5% Ukrainian @ 2.38
18 75.7% Croatian + 24.3% Cyprian @ 2.39
19 78.6% Bulgarian + 21.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.51
20 65.7% South_Polish + 34.3% Cyprian @ 2.55
Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 18.68
2 North_Sea 16.92
3 East_Med 14.51
4 Eastern_Euro 12.32
5 West_Med 11.99
6 Atlantic 11.65
7 West_Asian 10.79
8 Red_Sea 1.29
9 South_Asian 1.06
10 Southeast_Asian 0.32
11 Amerindian 0.27
12 Oceanian 0.15
13 Northeast_African 0.02
14 Siberian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 5.06
2 Bulgarian 6.5
3 Serbian 6.75
4 Moldavian 7.47
5 Croatian 10.44
6 Hungarian 11.17
7 Greek_Thessaly 12.55
8 Austrian 13
9 Greek 14.18
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.14
11 Ukrainian 16.13
12 South_Polish 16.17
13 East_German 16.32
14 Tuscan 18.04
15 Ashkenazi 18.49
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.5
17 North_Italian 18.75
18 Italian_Abruzzo 18.83
19 Central_Greek 18.96
20 Polish 19.02
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.8% Greek_Thessaly + 40.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.29
2 81.9% Moldavian + 18.1% Cyprian @ 2.43
3 84.6% Moldavian + 15.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.48
4 60.8% Greek_Thessaly + 39.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.5
5 84.7% Moldavian + 15.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.59
6 54.1% Ukrainian + 45.9% Central_Greek @ 2.76
7 63.9% Moldavian + 36.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.81
8 84.5% Moldavian + 15.5% Samaritan @ 2.87
9 73.1% Moldavian + 26.9% Central_Greek @ 2.9
10 85% Moldavian + 15% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.95
11 83% Moldavian + 17% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.96
12 76.6% Moldavian + 23.4% South_Italian @ 3.01
13 66.8% Ukrainian + 33.2% Cyprian @ 3.03
14 55.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 44.2% Central_Greek @ 3.04
15 56.6% Greek_Thessaly + 43.4% Ukrainian @ 3.08
16 84.2% Moldavian + 15.8% Assyrian @ 3.09
17 84.9% Moldavian + 15.1% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.13
18 55% Greek_Thessaly + 45% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.25
19 73% Moldavian + 27% Ashkenazi @ 3.26
20 58.6% Ukrainian + 41.4% South_Italian @ 3.27
Eurogenes K36
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.56 Pct
Armenian 3.56 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.70 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.80 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 16.58 Pct
East_Med 5.53 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.35 Pct
Fennoscandian 4.42 Pct
French 1.12 Pct
Iberian 8.01 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 14.14 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 2.47 Pct
North_African 0.28 Pct
North_Atlantic 2.11 Pct
North_Caucasian 7.87 Pct
North_Sea 4.74 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 2.49 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.75 Pct
West_Med 2.51 Pct
Aspirin
12-10-2019, 04:06 AM
Ethnicity: 1/2 Bulgarian, 1/2 Romanian
Region: Bessarabia/Moldova
Is so hard to write Moldavian instead Romanian?
Mingle
12-10-2019, 04:11 AM
Is so hard to write Moldavian instead Romanian?
The person identified their ancestry as 1/2 Romanian so that's why I wrote Romanian. I just go by whatever information they give.
Over here, I wrote Moldovan instead of Romanian since that's what the person identified as: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299002-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-Eurogenes-results&p=6368567&viewfull=1#post6368567
Aspirin
12-10-2019, 04:22 AM
Over here, I wrote Moldovan instead of Romanian since that's what the person identified as: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299002-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-Eurogenes-results&p=6368567&viewfull=1#post6368567
Do you know his surname, and district from were he is?
Mingle
12-10-2019, 04:30 AM
Do you know his surname, and district from were he is?
He didn't tell me which district he is from, he only said he was from the north, but their surname is Saulea. I added an update in a later post that they might be 1/8 Russian. But they didn't sound sure about the ancestry and didn't get any regions from Russia or Ukraine (or any Slavic country) on 23andMe, so its probably just a family story.
Aspirin
12-10-2019, 04:48 AM
He didn't tell me which district he is from, he only said he was from the north, but their surname is Saulea. I added an update in a later post that they might be 1/8 Russian. But they didn't sound sure about the ancestry and didn't get any regions from Russia or Ukraine (or any Slavic country) on 23andMe, so its probably just a family story.
This surname is rare, and is most present in two villages from Glodeni district (Cobani and Cajba), this is very close to me.
https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=57081
Aspirin
12-10-2019, 05:00 AM
The Moldavian from North and half Moldavian/half Bulgarian from the South on K15 map.
https://i.imgur.com/lcRNQrW.png
Mingle
12-10-2019, 05:09 AM
This surname is rare, and is most present in two villages from Glodeni district (Cobani and Cajba), this is very close to me.
https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=57081
I guess you should probably score similar to them. Any update on your 23andMe kit?
By the way, here are the results of someone who identified their ancestry as 60% Ukrainian and 40% Romanian from Bălți: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299002-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-Eurogenes-results&p=6370024&viewfull=1#post6370024
Vojnik
12-10-2019, 05:10 AM
Anyone having troubles with the gedmatch site?
Aspirin
12-10-2019, 05:19 AM
I guess you should probably score similar to them. Any update on your 23andMe kit?
By the way, here are the results of someone who says they're 60% Ukrainian and 40% Romanian from Bălți: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299002-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-Eurogenes-results&p=6370024&viewfull=1#post6370024
Bălți is a mixed place with plenty of Russians/Ukrainians, not surprising of his background, and is seen in his results, his Baltic and North Atlantic are high.
https://localitati.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewlocalitate&id=301
Aspirin
12-10-2019, 05:52 AM
Any update on your 23andMe kit?
Soon I will post my results.
Mingle
12-10-2019, 05:18 PM
The DNA results of the extremely northern shifted Serbs that plot close to HungryLion were most likely forged by HungryLion in my opinion. Their results are not only extreme outliers and without kit numbers/oracles, but show some weird patterns that make them look like they were forged. The results I'm referring to are those belong to Spasović, Grmuša, Atlagić (Dalmatia), Eić (Banija), Vrkić (Lika), and one nameless Banija Serb. If you notice; the final digit in their Baltic, North Atlantic, West Med, East Med, and West Asian scores all end in the same digit. Their Baltic scores all end in 6, their North Atlantic scores all end in 3, their West Med scores all end in 9, their East Med scores all end in 8, and their West Asian scores all end in 4. The reason for this is probably so that the components would all add up to 100% and HL was too lazy to give them different final digits to avoid screwing that part up. If you ask me, besides the already existing suspicion (outlier scores without kit numbers), this is way too much of a coincidence for the results to be real. Below, I've underlined the final digits of each of those components to show the eerily coincidental pattern present.
https://i.imgur.com/nxrFMDd.png?2
https://i.imgur.com/66WC0m9.png?2
https://i.imgur.com/Iivqgft.png?2
If these were for one or two different people, we could maybe say its a coincidence. But these are SIX different results of people that not only plot as extreme outliers and not only are without kit numbers, but all have the same final digit in the same exact components. So what do you guys think? All just a random coincidence or forged results?
Luke35
12-10-2019, 06:00 PM
[QUOTE=Mingle;6388137]The DNA results of the extremely northern shifted Serbs that plot close to HungryLion were most likely forged by HungryLion in my opinion. Their results are not only extreme outliers and without kit numbers/oracles, but show some weird patterns that make them look like they were forged. The results I'm referring to are those belong to Spasović, Grmuša, Atlagić (Dalmatia), Eić (Banija), Vrkić (Lika), and one nameless Banija Serb. If you notice; the final digit in their Baltic, North Atlantic, West Med, East Med, and West Asian scores all end in the same digit. Their Baltic scores all end in 6, their North Atlantic scores all end in 3, their West Med scores all end in 9, their East Med scores all end in 8, and their West Asian scores all end in 4. The reason for this is probably so that the components would all add up to 100% and HL was too lazy to give them different final digits to avoid screwing that part up. If you ask me, besides the already existing suspicion (outlier scores without kit numbers), this is way too much of a coincidence for the results to be real. Below, I've underlined the final digits of each of those components to show the eerily coincidental pattern present.
Nice detective work Mingle. Dare I ask what the motivation for forging these kits would be? Was HungryLion arguing that Serbs are more northern shifted than believed, or something?
Anyone having troubles with the gedmatch site?
It's big brother knocking on your door.
Mingle
12-10-2019, 06:02 PM
Nice detective work Mingle. Dare I ask what the motivation for forging these kits would be? Was HungryLion arguing that Serbs are more northern shifted than believed, or something?
Because he's an extreme outlier that plots way outside the Serb cluster and wants to make his results seem more normal.
Benyzero
12-10-2019, 06:04 PM
The DNA results of the extremely northern shifted Serbs that plot close to HungryLion were most likely forged by HungryLion in my opinion. Their results are not only extreme outliers and without kit numbers/oracles, but show some weird patterns that make them look like they were forged. The results I'm referring to are those belong to Spasović, Grmuša, Atlagić (Dalmatia), Eić (Banija), Vrkić (Lika), and one nameless Banija Serb. If you notice; the final digit in their Baltic, North Atlantic, West Med, East Med, and West Asian scores all end in the same digit. Their Baltic scores all end in 6, their North Atlantic scores all end in 3, their West Med scores all end in 9, their East Med scores all end in 8, and their West Asian scores all end in 4. The reason for this is probably so that the components would all add up to 100% and HL was too lazy to give them different final digits to avoid screwing that part up. If you ask me, besides the already existing suspicion (outlier scores without kit numbers), this is way too much of a coincidence for the results to be real. Below, I've underlined the final digits of each of those components to show the eerily coincidental pattern present.
https://i.imgur.com/nxrFMDd.png?2
https://i.imgur.com/66WC0m9.png?2
https://i.imgur.com/Iivqgft.png?2
If these were for one or two different people, we could maybe say its a coincidence. But these are SIX different results of people that not only plot as extreme outliers and not only are without kit numbers, but all have the same final digit in the same exact components. So what do you guys think? All just a random coincidence or forged results?
Making up results lol thats another level ...
Maintenance
12-10-2019, 06:08 PM
[QUOTE]
Nice detective work Mingle. Dare I ask what the motivation for forging these kits would be? Was HungryLion arguing that Serbs are more northern shifted than believed, or something?
Hes clearly not full serb, man his nose look like michael jackson, he probably has identity crisis.
https://i.imgur.com/NjwlbIb.png
War Chef
12-10-2019, 07:57 PM
The DNA results of the extremely northern shifted Serbs that plot close to HungryLion were most likely forged by HungryLion in my opinion. Their results are not only extreme outliers and without kit numbers/oracles, but show some weird patterns that make them look like they were forged. The results I'm referring to are those belong to Spasović, Grmuša, Atlagić (Dalmatia), Eić (Banija), Vrkić (Lika), and one nameless Banija Serb. If you notice; the final digit in their Baltic, North Atlantic, West Med, East Med, and West Asian scores all end in the same digit. Their Baltic scores all end in 6, their North Atlantic scores all end in 3, their West Med scores all end in 9, their East Med scores all end in 8, and their West Asian scores all end in 4. The reason for this is probably so that the components would all add up to 100% and HL was too lazy to give them different final digits to avoid screwing that part up. If you ask me, besides the already existing suspicion (outlier scores without kit numbers), this is way too much of a coincidence for the results to be real. Below, I've underlined the final digits of each of those components to show the eerily coincidental pattern present.
https://i.imgur.com/nxrFMDd.png?2
https://i.imgur.com/66WC0m9.png?2
https://i.imgur.com/Iivqgft.png?2
If these were for one or two different people, we could maybe say its a coincidence. But these are SIX different results of people that not only plot as extreme outliers and not only are without kit numbers, but all have the same final digit in the same exact components. So what do you guys think? All just a random coincidence or forged results?
I'm over here lying about my penis size meanwhile anthro-nerds are lying about their North-Atlantic scores. Pathetic :picard1:
Aspirin
12-10-2019, 08:09 PM
...
From where is your Gagauz side, Moldova, Ukraine or Bulgaria?
Ratmir
12-10-2019, 09:50 PM
I read someone claiming (that was written by a German) that in WW2 thousands of German and Hungarian babies were given to Serbian families for adoption in order to make their gene pool racially lighter and dilute the Turkish and North African influence. I’m nearly certain it’s mostly exaggerated but perhaps some Germanics would have indeed been assimilated? What are your thoughts?
Mingle
12-10-2019, 10:01 PM
I read someone claiming (that was written by a German) that in WW2 thousands of German and Hungarian babies were given to Serbian families for adoption in order to make their gene pool racially lighter and dilute the Turkish and North African influence. I’m nearly certain it’s mostly exaggerated but perhaps some Germanics would have indeed been assimilated? What are your thoughts?
Sounds like complete BS. There is no sign of any Turkish/MENA genetic influence anywhere in the Balkans (excluding Balkan Turks and some individual Muslim Slavs) both in autosomal and chromosomal DNA. And Serbs are relatively homogenous genetically.
Mingle
12-10-2019, 10:08 PM
Ethnicity: Romanian
Region: Suceava
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Suceava_in_Romania.svg/320px-Suceava_in_Romania.svg.png
Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.15
2 North_Atlantic 26.88
3 East_Med 14.66
4 West_Med 13.73
5 West_Asian 8.13
6 Red_Sea 2.27
7 Siberian 2.15
8 South_Asian 2.06
9 Amerindian 0.88
10 Oceanian 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.74
2 Moldavian 6.24
3 Hungarian 6.88
4 Romanian 7.1
5 Croatian 7.99
6 Bulgarian 9.67
7 Austrian 10.89
8 East_German 12.19
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.01
10 South_Polish 14.39
11 Ukrainian 15.29
12 West_German 16.44
13 Greek_Thessaly 17.73
14 South_Dutch 17.96
15 Polish 18.06
16 Southwest_Russian 18.37
17 French 18.59
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.8
19 North_Italian 19.85
20 Russian_Smolensk 20.16
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.1% Greek_Thessaly + 44.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.67
2 51.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 48.8% Estonian @ 1.74
3 57.6% Greek_Thessaly + 42.4% Finnish @ 1.95
4 54% Estonian + 46% South_Italian @ 1.98
5 77.8% Romanian + 22.2% Finnish @ 2.01
6 76.1% Romanian + 23.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.09
7 78.8% Romanian + 21.2% East_Finnish @ 2.17
8 69.6% Bulgarian + 30.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.24
9 50.3% Estonian + 49.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.25
10 89.5% Serbian + 10.5% East_Finnish @ 2.31
11 53.3% Southwest_Finnish + 46.7% Central_Greek @ 2.31
12 92.1% Serbian + 7.9% Mari @ 2.32
13 88.2% Serbian + 11.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.33
14 91% Serbian + 9% Chuvash @ 2.39
15 78.6% Romanian + 21.4% Estonian @ 2.44
16 70.3% South_Polish + 29.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.44
17 89.3% Serbian + 10.7% Erzya @ 2.45
18 53.7% Southwest_Russian + 46.3% Tuscan @ 2.47
19 89.5% Serbian + 10.5% Finnish @ 2.49
20 54.6% Finnish + 45.4% South_Italian @ 2.53
Eurogenes K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 18.21
2 North_Sea 17.63
3 Atlantic 17.21
4 Eastern_Euro 12.55
5 East_Med 10.04
6 West_Asian 9.5
7 West_Med 8.7
8 Red_Sea 2.64
9 South_Asian 1.54
10 Siberian 1.29
11 Amerindian 0.62
12 Oceanian 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.81
2 Moldavian 5.89
3 Romanian 6.31
4 Croatian 6.57
5 Austrian 7.13
6 Hungarian 7.25
7 Bulgarian 9.14
8 East_German 11.51
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.35
10 South_Polish 12.49
11 Ukrainian 13.41
12 Polish 15.03
13 Russian_Smolensk 15.35
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.59
15 Southwest_Russian 16.12
16 South_Dutch 16.77
17 Greek_Thessaly 16.83
18 Southwest_Finnish 17.05
19 West_German 17.46
20 French 17.58
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.1% Romanian + 23.9% East_Finnish @ 2.47
2 77.1% Romanian + 22.9% Estonian @ 2.49
3 75.2% Romanian + 24.8% Finnish @ 2.53
4 63.2% South_Polish + 36.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.6
5 74.6% Romanian + 25.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.63
6 66.7% Bulgarian + 33.3% Finnish @ 2.66
7 65.8% Bulgarian + 34.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.7
8 72.2% Romanian + 27.8% Polish @ 2.74
9 76.5% Romanian + 23.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.85
10 84.3% Croatian + 15.7% Turkish @ 2.85
11 68.4% Romanian + 31.6% South_Polish @ 2.85
12 58.7% Polish + 41.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.9
13 72.9% Romanian + 27.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.9
14 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Azeri @ 2.91
15 74.1% Romanian + 25.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.01
16 76% Romanian + 24% Belorussian @ 3.01
17 76.1% Romanian + 23.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.03
18 51.9% Estonian + 48.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.05
19 87.4% Croatian + 12.6% Assyrian @ 3.18
20 51.3% Romanian + 48.7% Croatian @ 3.18
Eurogenes K36
Amerindian 0.08 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.91 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.96 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 10.38 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 9.93 Pct
East_Med 10.37 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.59 Pct
Fennoscandian 5.20 Pct
French 3.12 Pct
Iberian 5.68 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 10.02 Pct
Malayan 0.59 Pct
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 7.70 Pct
North_Caucasian 5.92 Pct
North_Sea 11.38 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 0.51 Pct
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.50 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.15 Pct
West_Med -
Dodecad K12b
# Population Percent
1 North_European 39.23
2 Atlantic_Med 25.39
3 Caucasus 24.25
4 Southwest_Asian 3.82
5 Siberian 3.56
6 Gedrosia 2.16
7 South_Asian 1.39
8 Northwest_African 0.15
9 East_African 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 6.29
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 7.86
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.13
4 Hungarians (Behar) 11.75
5 German (Dodecad) 18
6 O_Italian (Dodecad) 19.31
7 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.24
8 Greek (Dodecad) 22.28
9 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 22.52
10 TSI30 (Metspalu) 23.19
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 23.5
12 French (Dodecad) 23.6
13 French (HGDP) 23.76
14 Dutch (Dodecad) 23.87
15 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 23.93
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 24.04
17 C_Italian (Dodecad) 24.18
18 Polish (Dodecad) 25.23
19 Kent (1000Genomes) 25.97
20 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 26.1
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55% Tuscan (HGDP) + 45% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.1
2 54.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 45.2% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.23
3 55.5% Tuscan (HGDP) + 44.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.34
4 55.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 44.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.43
5 61.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 38.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.47
6 54.3% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 45.7% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.48
7 56.6% Tuscan (HGDP) + 43.4% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.52
8 79.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 20.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.53
9 80.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 19.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.66
10 60.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 39.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.74
11 68.9% Romanians (Behar) + 31.1% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.78
12 55.4% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 44.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.81
13 88.7% Romanians (Behar) + 11.3% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.89
14 85.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 14.9% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.93
15 84.9% Romanians (Behar) + 15.1% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.96
16 86.2% Romanians (Behar) + 13.8% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 3.97
17 55.9% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 44.1% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.97
18 85.3% Romanians (Behar) + 14.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.98
19 72.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 27.8% German (Dodecad) @ 4.01
20 52.3% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 47.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.01
Aspirin
12-10-2019, 10:17 PM
Ethnicity: Romanian
Region: Suceava
Always wanted to see results from this region. Do you have more detailed information about him?
Mingle
12-10-2019, 10:22 PM
Always wanted to see results from this region. Do you have more detailed information about him?
Yes, I'll PM you.
Nurzat
12-11-2019, 12:12 AM
Yes, I'll PM you.
some 1/3 of the territory of the county is not inhabited by ethnic Romanians (Ukrainian villages mostly, but also Polish and Russian) - do you know for sure he's ethnic Romanian and not mixed?
because he comes quite close to my results and I am mixed:
Eurogenes K15, highest to lowest:
20.54% Baltic
16.41% North_Sea
16.38% Atlantic
15.30% Eastern_Euro
10.84% West_Med
8.76% West_Asian
8.89% East_Med
0.81% South_Asian
0.78% Southeast_Asian
0.59% Siberian
0.46% Amerindian
0.18% Sub_Saharan
0.06% Red_Sea
0.00% Oceanian
0.00% Northeast_African
K15 oracle:
1 Moldavian 4.63
2 Croatian 5.32
3 Serbian 7.19
4 Romanian 7.99
5 Austrian 9.03
6 Hungarian 9.1
7 Bulgarian 9.63
8 South_Polish 11.63
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.65
10 Ukrainian 12.21
11 East_German 12.98
12 Russian_Smolensk 13.98
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14
14 Polish 14.12
15 Southwest_Russian 14.68
16 Estonian_Polish 16.36
17 Belorussian 16.54
18 Kargopol_Russian 17.42
19 Greek_Thessaly 18.01
20 Greek 18.08
Eurogenes K13, highest to lowest:
30.93% Baltic
25.10% North_Atlantic
16.34% West_Med
11.35% East_Med
10.95% West_Asian
1.30% Siberian
1.20% South_Asian
1.01% East_Asian
0.74% Amerindian
0.64% Oceanian
0.36% Sub_Saharan
0.08% Red_Sea
0.00% Northeast_African
K13 oracle:
1 Moldavian 3.76
2 Serbian 6.09
3 Croatian 6.68
4 Hungarian 8.28
5 Romanian 8.39
6 Bulgarian 10.39
7 Austrian 11.83
8 East_German 12.65
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.7
10 South_Polish 13.56
11 Ukrainian 13.95
12 Polish 17.13
13 Southwest_Russian 17.42
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.42
15 West_German 18.1
16 Greek_Thessaly 19.12
17 Russian_Smolensk 19.21
18 South_Dutch 19.53
19 Estonian_Polish 19.9
20 Tatar 19.91
Carpatz
12-11-2019, 12:28 AM
some 1/3 of the territory of the county is not inhabited by ethnic Romanians (Ukrainian villages mostly, but also Polish and Russian)
Stop lying man
Nurzat
12-11-2019, 12:34 AM
Stop lying man
where the lie? all the northwest of the county is exclusively Ukrainian (even though most don't declare at the census). ask any Romanian from Dorna, Cimpulung or Humor, they will confirm it.
then, the villages around Radauti and Siret to Suceava some are Ukrainian, some are Romanian, some are Russian (Lipovan).
while in the centre of the county there's a small region of Polish villages (around Cacica).
any Romanian from Suceava county can confirm it. I know it's little known outside, since these ethnic communities make no fuss around this. but this doesn't give you Vlach the right to deny it.
Ukrainians' Union in Romania (centred on Suceava, Maramures and Timisoara communities): https://uur.ro/index.php/uk/
Poles' Union in Romania (centred on Suceava community): https://dompolski.ro/pl/dom/
Lipovan Russians' Union in Romania (centred on Tulcea, Suceava and Iasi communities): https://www.crlr.ro/ (too bad site is down at the moment, they're very active)
Carpatz
12-11-2019, 01:45 AM
where the lie? all the northwest of the county is exclusively Ukrainian (even though most don't declare at the census). ask any Romanian from Dorna, Cimpulung or Humor, they will confirm it.
then, the villages around Radauti and Siret to Suceava some are Ukrainian, some are Romanian, some are Russian (Lipovan).
while in the centre of the county there's a small region of Polish villages (around Cacica).
any Romanian from Suceava county can confirm it. I know it's little known outside, since these ethnic communities make no fuss around this. but this doesn't give you Vlach the right to deny it.
Ukrainians' Union in Romania (centred on Suceava, Maramures and Timisoara communities): https://uur.ro/index.php/uk/
Poles' Union in Romania (centred on Suceava community): https://dompolski.ro/pl/dom/
Lipovan Russians' Union in Romania (centred on Tulcea, Suceava and Iasi communities): https://www.crlr.ro/ (too bad site is down at the moment, they're very active)
Why are you linking those websites when they contain nothing to prove your ridiculous assertions? Your claim that 1/3 of Suceava county is Ukrainian, Polish and Russian only that for some reason those they choose not to declare as such in the census is questionable at best, and you haven't provided a modicum of evidence. You're full of shit.
Coastal Elite
12-11-2019, 02:19 AM
where the lie? all the northwest of the county is exclusively Ukrainian (even though most don't declare at the census). ask any Romanian from Dorna, Cimpulung or Humor, they will confirm it.
then, the villages around Radauti and Siret to Suceava some are Ukrainian, some are Romanian, some are Russian (Lipovan).
while in the centre of the county there's a small region of Polish villages (around Cacica).
any Romanian from Suceava county can confirm it. I know it's little known outside, since these ethnic communities make no fuss around this. but this doesn't give you Vlach the right to deny it.
Ukrainians' Union in Romania (centred on Suceava, Maramures and Timisoara communities): https://uur.ro/index.php/uk/
Poles' Union in Romania (centred on Suceava community): https://dompolski.ro/pl/dom/
Lipovan Russians' Union in Romania (centred on Tulcea, Suceava and Iasi communities): https://www.crlr.ro/ (too bad site is down at the moment, they're very active)
lol...Don't tell me Brasov county is a Polish area too.
Croat from western Croatia/north Adriatic region (island of Krk and Senj). Belongs to native Illyrian J2b2 haplogroup.
https://i.imgur.com/iCsKieK.png
Cumansky
12-11-2019, 03:06 AM
Why are you linking those websites when they contain nothing to prove your ridiculous assertions? Your claim that 1/3 of Suceava county is Ukrainian, Polish and Russian only that for some reason those they choose not to declare as such in the census is questionable at best, and you haven't provided a modicum of evidence. You're full of shit.
I believe, and that is only tip of iceberg there is many facts of history you Italian wannabes keep sweeping under rug
Nurzat
12-11-2019, 11:13 AM
Why are you linking those websites when they contain nothing to prove your ridiculous assertions? Your claim that 1/3 of Suceava county is Ukrainian, Polish and Russian only that for some reason those they choose not to declare as such in the census is questionable at best, and you haven't provided a modicum of evidence. You're full of shit.
I said any Romanian from Suceava county can confirm it, why don't you just ask one, idiot? Romanians, Ukrainians, Poles, Russians and Germans live in peace in Suceava county. and mix. large chunks of the territory is exclusive Ukrainian-inhabited but it makes for a small population, because it's mountainside villages and hamlets with huge forests between. the same for northeast Maramures county.
lol...Don't tell me Brasov county is a Polish area too.
same - why don't you ask someone from Suceava county? anyone can confirm it.
Coastal Elite
12-11-2019, 11:37 AM
same - why don't you ask someone from Suceava county? anyone can confirm it.
Why did you thumb me down? For asking if Poles are in Brasov.
Croat from western Croatia/north Adriatic region (island of Krk and Senj). Belongs to native Illyrian J2b2 haplogroup.
https://i.imgur.com/iCsKieK.png
Alright, I got his correct results with full values, he is in southern Croatian range, nothing unusual actually :thumb001:
K13
1 Baltic 30.83
2 North_Atlantic 26.60
3 West_Med 18.29
4 West_Asian 10.34
5 East_Med 9.35
6 Red_Sea 1.63
7 Amerindian 1.19
1 Moldavian @ 5.242047
2 Croatian @ 7.037681
3 Serbian @ 7.859838
4 Hungarian @ 8.765019
5 Romanian @ 11.162214
6 Austrian @ 11.861690
7 East_German @ 12.691266
8 Bulgarian @ 13.741311
9 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 13.843511
10 South_Polish @ 14.924682
11 Ukrainian @ 15.478262
12 Polish @ 18.677946
13 West_German @ 19.266777
14 Southwest_Russian @ 19.924641
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 20.034492
16 South_Dutch @ 20.726995
17 Russian_Smolensk @ 21.423149
18 French @ 21.653101
19 Estonian_Polish @ 22.223413
20 Tatar @ 22.492161
K15
1 Baltic 20.42
2 North_Sea 18.69
3 Atlantic 15.22
4 West_Med 14.56
5 Eastern_Euro 13
6 West_Asian 8.57
7 East_Med 6.39
8 Red_Sea 1.67
9 Amerindian 0.78
10 Oceanian 0.43
11 Sub-Saharan 0.28
1 Moldavian 4.43
2 Croatian 5.54
3 Hungarian 7.22
4 Serbian 7.53
5 Romanian 8.96
6 Austrian 9.23
7 East_German 10.7
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.76
9 Bulgarian 11.21
10 South_Polish 11.49
11 Ukrainian 11.62
12 Polish 14.22
13 Russian_Smolensk 15.12
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.41
15 Southwest_Russian 15.98
16 Estonian_Polish 17.24
17 South_Dutch 17.36
18 Belorussian 17.4
19 French 17.68
20 Southwest_Finnish 17.69
His PCA:
https://i.imgur.com/HWGHyRF.png
Nurzat
12-11-2019, 01:20 PM
Why did you thumb me down? For asking if Poles are in Brasov.
don't play dumb now - you've ironically said it in reaction to what you considered a ludicrous claim, that is Poles, Ukrainians, Russians and Germans live in Suceava county as natives. which is annoying, since some of these communities have been in this county before Vlachs both in the mountains and in the towns. then addign Brasov, which is deep in the south and has nothing to do with us. to answer your question - no, don't be afraid, you will only find Romanians and Gypsies in Brasov county, no Germans left. and stop playing the Romanian card, you're not one.
both you and Carpatz can fuckin' ask a Romanian from Suceava county - any random one will confirm what I've said. also that census data is totally irrelevant, for some reason only 1/10 minority ethnics choose to declare at the census, both from ignorance and from fear of not being labelled as a foreigner / not to be subjected to any requirements/disadvantage following that.
Zmey Gorynych
12-11-2019, 01:38 PM
Ethnicity: Romanian
Region: Suceava
Seems a bit west shifted to me. If he is mixed it's unlikely that it is polish or russian or ukrainian. Hungarian is more likely but who knows!? In K13 his Baltic is not unusual for a moldovan romanian but his north-atlantic is elevated so we're thinking an admixture from an ethnicity that has similar baltic but higher north-atlantic.
Nurzat
12-11-2019, 01:46 PM
Seems a bit west shifted to me. If he is mixed it's unlikely that it is polish or russian or ukrainian. Hungarian is more likely but who knows!?
he's very close to me, just a bit more southern - so he can be ukrainian-mixed, since Ukrainians in Bucovina and Galicia, the Carpathians in general, have a bit more Balkan-like admix than average. average Ukrainian are already 20% Balkan, imagine those in the Carpathians. a Moldovan-Ukrainian mix on here would end up Croat-, Slovene-, Bosnian- or at most Hungarian-like
Zmey Gorynych
12-11-2019, 01:55 PM
he's very close to me, just a bit more southern - so he can be ukrainian-mixed, since Ukrainians in Bucovina and Galicia, the Carpathians in general, have a bit more Balkan-like admix than average. average Ukrainian are already 20% Balkan, imagine those in the Carpathians. a Moldovan-Ukrainian mix on here would end up Croat-, Slovene-, Bosnian- or at most Hungarian-like
I'm thinking that if the average northern moldovan romanian scores like your friend from botosani or me then any ukrainian (even the southernmost) admixture would keep the baltic in the low to mid 30% and the north-atlantic no higher than mid 20%. I have a connection on 23andme, from Suceava/Botosani who has a similar result to mine but as I learned this doesn't always translate to similar results on gedmatch.
Coastal Elite
12-11-2019, 02:06 PM
don't play dumb now - you've ironically said it in reaction to what you considered a ludicrous claim, that is Poles, Ukrainians, Russians and Germans live in Suceava county as natives. which is annoying, since some of these communities have been in this county before Vlachs both in the mountains and in the towns. then addign Brasov, which is deep in the south and has nothing to do with us. to answer your question - no, don't be afraid, you will only find Romanians and Gypsies in Brasov county, no Germans left. and stop playing the Romanian card, you're not one.
both you and Carpatz can fuckin' ask a Romanian from Suceava county - any random one will confirm what I've said. also that census data is totally irrelevant, for some reason only 1/10 minority ethnics choose to declare at the census, both from ignorance and from fear of not being labelled as a foreigner / not to be subjected to any requirements/disadvantage following that.
That’s great, likes I give two shits about Sueceva. See, you can explain yourself without some pussy ass, passive aggressive thumbs down. Be a man and explain yourself. Was that so hard? You shouldn’t play dumb and act like you don’t have anti-Romanian agenda. Why do you think every Romania on here dislikes you? It’s not because you’re honest it is because you’re a troll. My guess is that your another one of these Polish dudes LARPing as a Romanian. So just just cut the crap.
Btw, I identify as American but are you doubting I have Romanian ancestry?
Seems a bit west shifted to me. If he is mixed it's unlikely that it is polish or russian or ukrainian. Hungarian is more likely but who knows!? In K13 his Baltic is not unusual for a moldovan romanian but his north-atlantic is elevated so we're thinking an admixture from an ethnicity that has similar baltic but higher north-atlantic.
He doesn't need to be mixed in my view. Every ethnicity has little bit of variation. His results don't seem unusual for full Moldovan.
Unlike banned member Incelslayer, who clusters exactly above Hungarian dot LOL!
Nurzat
12-11-2019, 02:33 PM
I'm thinking that if the average northern moldovan romanian scores like your friend from botosani or me then any ukrainian (even the southernmost) admixture would keep the baltic in the low to mid 30% and the north-atlantic no higher than mid 20%. I have a connection on 23andme, from Suceava/Botosani who has a similar result to mine but as I learned this doesn't always translate to similar results on gedmatch.
the friend from Botosani has a Ukrainian last name (funnily he's a Carpatz-like Romanian nationalist xD) and his dad's village abounds of Ukrainian last names. all other Moldovans that posted on here are much less Slavic and more Balkan than him or the Rep. Moldova Moldovans, I think you've noticed. and Suceava-Botosani people are suspect of recent admix if they score like that, just look at the Bucovina ethnic map less than 100 years ago.
Coastal Elite
12-11-2019, 02:51 PM
the friend from Botosani has a Ukrainian last name (funnily he's a Carpatz-like Romanian nationalist xD) and his dad's village abounds of Ukrainian last names. all other Moldovans that posted on here are much less Slavic and more Balkan than him or the Rep. Moldova Moldovans, I think you've noticed. and Suceava-Botosani people are suspect of recent admix if they score like that, just look at the Bucovina ethnic map less than 100 years ago.
Cool story my Polish friend
Benyzero
12-11-2019, 02:55 PM
He doesn't need to be mixed in my view. Every ethnicity has little bit of variation. His results don't seem unusual for full Moldovan.
Unlike banned member Incelslayer, who clusters exactly above Hungarian dot LOL!
That is a pathetic nigga
That is a pathetic nigga
He also gets Hungary on 23andme, and Stears gets no Romania :laugh:
Similar story like HungryLion for Serbs, Incel is extreme outlier for Moldovans, both Romanian and Republic ones.
Zmey Gorynych
12-11-2019, 03:08 PM
He doesn't need to be mixed in my view. Every ethnicity has little bit of variation. His results don't seem unusual for full Moldovan.
Unlike banned member Incelslayer, who clusters exactly above Hungarian dot LOL!
What is his result exactly? I've noticed you mentioned him a few times but I've never seen the numbers and don't know where he's from (counties I mean). I take it he's not aware of any foreign ancestry.
the friend from Botosani has a Ukrainian last name (funnily he's a Carpatz-like Romanian nationalist xD) and his dad's village abounds of Ukrainian last names. all other Moldovans that posted on here are much less Slavic and more Balkan than him or the Rep. Moldova Moldovans, I think you've noticed. and Suceava-Botosani people are suspect of recent admix if they score like that, just look at the Bucovina ethnic map less than 100 years ago.
I didn't know about the name.
Benyzero
12-11-2019, 03:12 PM
He also gets Hungary on 23andme, and Stears gets no Romania :laugh:
Similar story like HungryLion for Serbs, Incel is extreme outlier for Moldovans, both Romanian and Republic ones.
Yet he was anti hungarian to the bone, later he acknowledged he is partly hungarian...
Carpatz
12-11-2019, 03:14 PM
I said any Romanian from Suceava county can confirm it, why don't you just ask one, idiot? Romanians, Ukrainians, Poles, Russians and Germans live in peace in Suceava county. and mix. large chunks of the territory is exclusive Ukrainian-inhabited but it makes for a small population, because it's mountainside villages and hamlets with huge forests between. the same for northeast Maramures county.
No need to get upset. Sure, ethnic minorities exist obviously, only you pull numbers out of your ass to fit your victim agenda. 1/3 of Suceava is ethnic ukrainian, yet somehow no one noticed besides you. Cut the crap man.
What is his result exactly? I've noticed you mentioned him a few times but I've never seen the numbers and don't know where he's from (counties I mean). I take it he's not aware of any foreign ancestry.
Capatz posted thread about his results. He claims to be full Romanian from Romanian Moldova. I don't know which county/town, Carpatz and maybe Aspirin do so they can say.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315711208462221313/418799823983083520/unknown.png
https://image.ibb.co/kj5goH/eurok15map.png
https://image.ibb.co/gU4J2c/eurok36map2.png
https://image.ibb.co/dLNQhc/k13.png
https://image.ibb.co/kLnuax/eurok15oracle4.png
https://image.ibb.co/b7Kkhc/dodecadk12b.png
https://image.ibb.co/d9DZax/mdlpk16.png
J2a Y haplogrup, J1c mtdna.
Btw, his 23andme updated, but I can't find newer pic (he has Budapest, Hungary in update as far as I know)
Carpatz
12-11-2019, 03:43 PM
He also gets Hungary on 23andme, and Stears gets no Romania :laugh:
Similar story like HungryLion for Serbs, Incel is extreme outlier for Moldovans, both Romanian and Republic ones.
He doesn't get Hungary on 23andme. Stop lying on the internet and go feed Odeon.
Maintenance
12-11-2019, 03:43 PM
Btw, his 23andme updated, but I can't find newer pic (he has Budapest, Hungary in update as far as I know)
I have a reply regarding Incelslayer and talking when he cant defend himself
Not only that it is a coward move but you also are not allowed to talk about a perma-banned member.He said that its nice that you take the time to post so much on TA but you better should go back to stir the porridge cause if it burns your Deadbeat husband will go hungry and beat you gain since he alcohol binges quite often
Aspirin
12-11-2019, 03:58 PM
the friend from Botosani has a Ukrainian last name (funnily he's a Carpatz-like Romanian nationalist xD) and his dad's village abounds of Ukrainian last names. all other Moldovans that posted on here are much less Slavic and more Balkan than him or the Rep. Moldova Moldovans, I think you've noticed. and Suceava-Botosani people are suspect of recent admix if they score like that, just look at the Bucovina ethnic map less than 100 years ago.
What is his surname?
MagnusDark
12-11-2019, 04:03 PM
I'm over here lying about my penis size meanwhile anthro-nerds are lying about their North-Atlantic scores. Pathetic :picard1:
:lol:
He doesn't get Hungary on 23andme. Stop lying on the internet and go feed Odeon.
:1127:
Can you post his updated results ?
Maintenance
12-11-2019, 04:13 PM
:1127:
Can you post his updated results ?
Why thumb me down, don't shoot the messenger, go thumb him down
Carpatz
12-11-2019, 04:14 PM
:1127:
Can you post his updated results ?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/445888351053283329/654370360229363712/unknown.png
Cool, he scores Dalmatia :)
Is he from Galati in southern Moldova?
Maintenance
12-11-2019, 04:22 PM
Cool, he scores Dalmatia :)
Is he from Galati in southern Moldova?
yes
I would like him back, if he will be serious member btw.
Zmey Gorynych
12-11-2019, 05:46 PM
Capatz posted thread about his results. He claims to be full Romanian from Romanian Moldova. I don't know which county/town, Carpatz and maybe Aspirin do so they can say.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315711208462221313/418799823983083520/unknown.png
https://image.ibb.co/kj5goH/eurok15map.png
https://image.ibb.co/gU4J2c/eurok36map2.png
https://image.ibb.co/dLNQhc/k13.png
https://image.ibb.co/kLnuax/eurok15oracle4.png
https://image.ibb.co/b7Kkhc/dodecadk12b.png
https://image.ibb.co/d9DZax/mdlpk16.png
J2a Y haplogrup, J1c mtdna.
I find it strange that a moldovan romanian gets Montenegro under the balkan category and not Romania - his country (even if it's before the update). Are you sure this result is real? I mean if it's that of a romanian and specifically his?
I find it strange that a moldovan romanian gets Montenegro under the balkan category and not Romania - his country (even if it's before the update). Are you sure this result is real? I mean if it's that of a romanian and specifically his?
Well his last result is few posts above, ge gets his town first.
Tommie
12-11-2019, 06:02 PM
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Tommie
12-11-2019, 06:22 PM
I believe, and that is only tip of iceberg there is many facts of history you Italian wannabes keep sweeping under rug
And what were you again? You've used so many different ethnic identities that no one even knows what you actually are :lol:
Tommie
12-11-2019, 06:41 PM
don't play dumb now - you've ironically said it in reaction to what you considered a ludicrous claim, that is Poles, Ukrainians, Russians and Germans live in Suceava county as natives. which is annoying, since some of these communities have been in this county before Vlachs both in the mountains and in the towns.
Please link evidences of their presence in that area before Vlachs :rolleyes:
WeirdLookingFellow
12-11-2019, 06:53 PM
Please link evidences of their presence in that area before Vlachs :rolleyes:
Neither your nor Nurzat's claims have sufficient proof. Not until we find more samples that are identified as Vlachs and from the 3-13th century.
Coastal Elite
12-11-2019, 07:18 PM
Neither your nor Nurzat's claims have sufficient proof. Not until we find more samples that are identified as Vlachs and from the 3-13th century.
You seem like another slav who has nothing good to say about Romania.
Mingle
12-11-2019, 07:29 PM
Alright, I got his correct results with full values, he is in southern Croatian range, nothing unusual actually :thumb001:
K13
1 Baltic 30.83
2 North_Atlantic 26.60
3 West_Med 18.29
4 West_Asian 10.34
5 East_Med 9.35
6 Red_Sea 1.63
7 Amerindian 1.19
1 Moldavian @ 5.242047
2 Croatian @ 7.037681
3 Serbian @ 7.859838
4 Hungarian @ 8.765019
5 Romanian @ 11.162214
6 Austrian @ 11.861690
7 East_German @ 12.691266
8 Bulgarian @ 13.741311
9 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 13.843511
10 South_Polish @ 14.924682
11 Ukrainian @ 15.478262
12 Polish @ 18.677946
13 West_German @ 19.266777
14 Southwest_Russian @ 19.924641
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 20.034492
16 South_Dutch @ 20.726995
17 Russian_Smolensk @ 21.423149
18 French @ 21.653101
19 Estonian_Polish @ 22.223413
20 Tatar @ 22.492161
K15
1 Baltic 20.42
2 North_Sea 18.69
3 Atlantic 15.22
4 West_Med 14.56
5 Eastern_Euro 13
6 West_Asian 8.57
7 East_Med 6.39
8 Red_Sea 1.67
9 Amerindian 0.78
10 Oceanian 0.43
11 Sub-Saharan 0.28
1 Moldavian 4.43
2 Croatian 5.54
3 Hungarian 7.22
4 Serbian 7.53
5 Romanian 8.96
6 Austrian 9.23
7 East_German 10.7
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.76
9 Bulgarian 11.21
10 South_Polish 11.49
11 Ukrainian 11.62
12 Polish 14.22
13 Russian_Smolensk 15.12
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.41
15 Southwest_Russian 15.98
16 Estonian_Polish 17.24
17 South_Dutch 17.36
18 Belorussian 17.4
19 French 17.68
20 Southwest_Finnish 17.69
His PCA:
https://i.imgur.com/HWGHyRF.png
Ask for his K36 (its good for plotting and vbnetkhio has a K36 plot).
Mingle
12-11-2019, 07:30 PM
And what were you again? You've used so many different ethnic identities that no one even knows what you actually are :lol:
He's 1/2 South Polish and 1/2 Western Ukrainian.
Carpatz
12-11-2019, 07:34 PM
Neither your nor Nurzat's claims have sufficient proof. Not until we find more samples that are identified as Vlachs and from the 3-13th century.
What claims has Aeduard made? This seems like deflection to me. Nurzat's claims that 1/3 of Suceava county in the present day is made up of Ukrainian ethnics is verifiable as complete bullshit.
WeirdLookingFellow
12-11-2019, 07:40 PM
You seem like another slav who has nothing good to say about Romania.
I have plenty of good things to say about our people. I do not like posts that throw away our Slavic ancestry nor do I like the ones that throw away our Thracian/Dacian/Vlach one. Both are clearly visible.
Now if there's another thing I don't like, that's Romanboos and bored ppl with Decebal avatars that subscribe to Slavic pages just to comment under Romanian posts *Romanians aren't Slavic*.
Delusion helps noone and I am extremely interested in seeing the evolution of our people across the times. Unfortunately Romanians have some of the poorest ancient samples and we need to revolve around some strange Scythian ones, BGR_IA, HRV_IA, STR_300, all of them preceding or barely showing proper ancestry to Romania.
I also have threads of how Romanians look in my opinion, you can check them in the Romania section. Nothing cherry-picked, no half blonde ppl, not half turkish ones, no football players.
WeirdLookingFellow
12-11-2019, 07:45 PM
What claims has Aeduard made? This seems like deflection to me. Nurzat's claims that 1/3 of Suceava county in the present day is made up of Ukrainian ethnics is verifiable as complete bullshit.
I only checked the claim that "Poles, Ukrainians" have been in N. Moldova before Vlachs. Verifiably false if we think of Cucuteni culture, debatable in a more early-medieval way. Probably also false since Vlachs roamed around the mountains and Suceava is near, or at least they lived together. Signs of more intensive cultural relations with Ukrainians is clear though.
In terms of Aeduard, he's fine but overstates the impact of Romans.
He's 1/2 South Polish and 1/2 Western Ukrainian.
I PMed him.
PS, he is half from Krk, and half from this village in Senj municipality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jablanac
So technically he is fully western Croat but actually population of Lika-Senj coast is of same origins as in Lika, they are more Balkanic than Croats from Krk (native Čakavians).
His village was settled by Bunjevac Croats.
After liberating from the Turks in the mid-17th century, the authorities decided to repopulate the area, and Bunjevac Croats were elected as new settlers. They settled in several waves. The first wave of 1645 (from Jasenica and Pozrmanja) failed because the violent behavior of the Senj captain caused these settlers to continue on to Pag, Rab and the surroundings of Razanac and Vinjerac. In 1655, Bunjevci came from the vicinity of Obrovac, Zelengrad and Karin. Although the settlement was not completely successful, it encouraged the Bunjevci from Lič, Krmpot and Kriv Put to move to Podgorje, among others Jablanac.
Full autochthonous North Adriatic Croats should be closest to Slovenians.
Carpatz
12-11-2019, 07:51 PM
I only checked the claim that "Poles, Ukrainians" have been in N. Moldova before Vlachs.
I don't think Aeduard or anyone here has denied the impact Slavs had on Romanian genetics. What do you think of his claim that 1/3 of Suceava county in the present day is made up of Ukrainian, Polish, Russian minorities?
Coastal Elite
12-11-2019, 07:54 PM
I have plenty of good things to say about our people. I do not like posts that throw away our Slavic ancestry nor do I like the ones that throw away our Thracian/Dacian/Vlach one. Both are clearly visible.
Now if there's another thing I don't like, that's Romanboos and bored ppl with Decebal avatars that subscribe to Slavic pages just to comment under Romanian posts *Romanians aren't Slavic*.
Delusion helps noone and I am extremely interested in seeing the evolution of our people across the times. Unfortunately Romanians have some of the poorest ancient samples and we need to revolve around some strange Scythian ones, BGR_IA, HRV_IA, STR_300, all of them preceding or barely showing proper ancestry to Romania.
I also have threads of how Romanians look in my opinion, you can check them in the Romania section. Nothing cherry-picked, no half blonde ppl, not half turkish ones, no football players.
Fair enough. I have have no issue with Slavic people or their admixture with Romanians, I’ve just seem too many non-Romanians people claiming to be Romanian on TA just to make Romania look bad. Nurzat saying shit like “ we Romanians like to play with our own poop” . I don’t mind someone criticizing Romania, it’s not perfect, but sometimes there is an obvious anti-Romanian agenda.
Romanians are still more Dacian than Slavic on average. And Roman input isn't insignificant either.
WeirdLookingFellow
12-11-2019, 08:04 PM
Fair enough. I have have no issue with Slavic people or their admixture with Romanians, I’ve just seem too many non-Romanians people claiming to be Romanian on TA just to make Romania look bad. Nurzat saying shit like “ we Romanians like to play with our own poop” . I don’t mind someone criticizing Romania, it’s not perfect, but sometimes there is an obvious anti-Romanian agenda.
Lol I'm Romanian af mate just slightly more W shifted. Even that might be MyHeritage being shit at their raw data, I'll be ordering a 23andme as well when I decide I have nothing better to do with my money.
Nurzat said he literally only has a connection to NE Romanians as if ppl south of Iasi are Egyptians or sth I don't understand why people still respond to him on these things.
Aspirin is also ashamed of his Vlach-ness but at least doesn't troll randomly and looks for actual arguments.
But Romanians larping as Romans when Serbs don't, while Romans have been in Moesia for longer is just as funny.
But Romanians larping as Romans when Serbs don't, while Romans have been in Moesia for longer is just as funny.
Fun fact: Serbs have less Roman input than Romanians. They also rarely score Italian on 23andme, Romanians almost always do.
WeirdLookingFellow
12-11-2019, 08:09 PM
I don't think Aeduard or anyone here has denied the impact Slavs had on Romanian genetics. What do you think of his claim that 1/3 of Suceava county in the present day is made up of Ukrainian, Polish, Russian minorities?
Downplayed it, not fully denied. That 40% AV2 can't be ignored. N. Moldova was colonized by Ukrainians invited by Stephen the Great, though the number can't be estimated and they were fully absorbed as no distinct pockets remain safe for some villages.
Cantemir noted that East of the Prut the more you headed East the more ppl spoke with Polish words.
Romanians are still a Vlacho-Slavic people that is more Vlach even with that. We're not special but we need more samples to get a bette runderstanding.
WeirdLookingFellow
12-11-2019, 08:12 PM
Fun fact: Serbs have less Roman input than Romanians. They also rarely score Italian on 23andme, Romanians almost always do.
Samples and the K15 map has shown that Serbs are either just as Slavic or more. I've seen Greek, not Italian though, and there is proof that 23andme sometimes fucks it up, what if Italian is just more Celtic Greek admix?
Pribislav
12-11-2019, 08:21 PM
@ Feiichy
Some Serbs are modeled as Polish/Ukrainian + Italian.
For example this Dalmatian Serb on K15.
1 58.7% Polish + 41.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.86
@ Feiichy
Some Serbs are modeled as Polish/Ukrainian + Italian.
For example this Dalmatian Serb on K15.
1 58.7% Polish + 41.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.86
Abruzzo is closer to what Thracians get.
Distance to: BGR_IA
0.03716518 Italian_Lazio
0.03973669 Italian_Molise
0.04002928 Italian_Apulia
0.04080540 Italian_Abruzzo
0.04080752 Italian_Umbria
0.04130677 Italian_Basilicata
0.04130794 Italian_Marche
0.04274486 Italian_Campania
0.04335443 French_Corsica
0.04460689 Italian_Tuscany
0.04615308 Greek_Ionia
0.04699819 Italian_Calabria
0.04720308 Sicilian_East
0.04962777 Greek
0.05043692 Sicilian_West
0.05128939 Italian_Piedmont
0.05178807 Albanian
0.05351786 Greek_Crete
0.05438078 Greek_Kos
0.05593646 Maltese
0.05629075 Swiss_Italian
0.05689945 Italian_Lombardy
0.05718129 Italian_Bergamo
0.05950644 Italian_Jew
0.06173319 Italian_Veneto
Samples and the K15 map has shown that Serbs are either just as Slavic or more. I've seen Greek, not Italian though, and there is proof that 23andme sometimes fucks it up, what if Italian is just more Celtic Greek admix?
Many Romanians get specific regions in south Italy (which are ancient Greek by ancestry, but not modern Greek),
Coastal Elite
12-11-2019, 09:07 PM
Lol I'm Romanian af mate just slightly more W shifted. Even that might be MyHeritage being shit at their raw data, I'll be ordering a 23andme as well when I decide I have nothing better to do with my money.
Nurzat said he literally only has a connection to NE Romanians as if ppl south of Iasi are Egyptians or sth I don't understand why people still respond to him on these things.
Aspirin is also ashamed of his Vlach-ness but at least doesn't troll randomly and looks for actual arguments.
But Romanians larping as Romans when Serbs don't, while Romans have been in Moesia for longer is just as funny.
Never said you weren't Romanian, I just get the feeling you identify more as a Slav. Nothing wrong with that. As to Nurzat, he constantly says "we Romanians" followed by some negative BS, maybe that is why people responded. Ever thought of that? Don't play dumb.
When you say Romanian larp as Romans what you really mean is "where do these uppity Romanians get off speaking a Romance language, why can't they speak some shitty sounding Slavic gibberish like the rest of us Eastern Euro?". Because we have good taste, that is why.
Nurzat
12-11-2019, 09:16 PM
I don't think Aeduard or anyone here has denied the impact Slavs had on Romanian genetics. What do you think of his claim that 1/3 of Suceava county in the present day is made up of Ukrainian, Polish, Russian minorities?
you misuse my words. I've said 1/3 of the county is inhabited by Ukrainians and other minorities and specified I meant the territory. Romanians have always inhabited the southern and eastern zones of Bucovina, which are much less forested and more populated. never claimed 1/3 of population, but 1/3 of the territory. then, at the time of the annexation of the region by Romania Ukrainians were anyway outnumbering Romanians. much of the difference to this day is the denationalization of the past century. the heavily forested northwest of the county was spared, due to isolation.
Nurzat saying shit like “ we Romanians like to play with our own poop” . I don’t mind someone criticizing Romania, it’s not perfect, but sometimes there is an obvious anti-Romanian agenda.
you put words in my mouth. never said that, I just have that thread about the outhouse, which is generic Eastern Euro stuff, not Romanian. of course Romania is #1 in the world with 40% of the people not having an inside toilet when it joined the European Union, but things are changing.
and it's not only about being backward - I still prefer to pee outside under the sky before going to bed, because it feels nicer than toilet. and many Romanians do the same. thank God they haven't corrupted all of us Eastern savages with the feminist agenda of peeing seated.
Coastal Elite
12-11-2019, 09:28 PM
you put words in my mouth. never said that, I just have that thread about the outhouse, which is generic Eastern Euro stuff, not Romanian. of course Romania is #1 in the world with 40% of the people not having an inside toilet when it joined the European Union, but things are changing.
and it's not only about being backward - I still prefer to pee outside under the sky before going to bed, because it feels nicer than toilet. and many Romanians do the same. thank God they haven't corrupted all of us Eastern savages with the feminist agenda.
It's called hyperbole you humorless Slav. I was actually mildly amused by the outhouse thread and I don't mind joking about Romania but basically all you posts are anti-Romanian in one way or another. I wish you would just admit you're not Romanian, more like Polish or Ukrainian, who-knows.
Nurzat
12-11-2019, 09:37 PM
It's called hyperbole you humorless Slav. I was actually mildly amused by the outhouse thread and I don't mind joking about Romania but basically all you posts are anti-Romanian in one way or another. I wish you would just admit you're not Romanian, more like Polish or Ukrainian, who-knows.
I am a cynical sarcastic person. I am not more anti-Romanian than I am anti-anything. but here on TA speaking domestic stuff, I speak about Romania since I live here and am one. it's no agenda. I was complaining even more when I was to London, Bruxelles or Milan. I've always said thank God we don't get illegal immigrants, feminism etc. Romania is a heaven from that point of view. but it sucks from others and I will speak about it. there's no way I praise something unworthy just for national brotherhood, I don't believe in that, not with Romanians nor with Ukrainians etc.
Coastal Elite
12-11-2019, 10:10 PM
I am a cynical sarcastic person. I am not more anti-Romanian than I am anti-anything. but here on TA speaking domestic stuff, I speak about Romania since I live here and am one. it's no agenda. I was complaining even more when I was to London, Bruxelles or Milan. I've always said thank God we don't get illegal immigrants, feminism etc. Romania is a heaven from that point of view. but it sucks from others and I will speak about it. there's no way I praise something unworthy just for national brotherhood, I don't believe in that, not with Romanians nor with Ukrainians etc.
We all know Romania has some issues and I'm not looking for Chamber of Commerce BS but don't act like everything is horrible. I'm in America and you are 5 times more likely to die from gun violence than Romania. There is far more homelessness and people with drug problems here. Who is really backwards? Pick on some other countries, hell, pick on the US, I don't care. Btw, you do realize that most Romanian Americans are fairly successful in the US so these stereotypes of Romanians you present are totally inconsistent with want I've seen in my own life. I notice you never mention Romanian Americans because they don't fit your caricature of poor, backwards Romanians.
Aspirin
12-11-2019, 10:34 PM
some 1/3 of the territory of the county is not inhabited by ethnic Romanians (Ukrainian villages mostly, but also Polish and Russian) - do you know for sure he's ethnic Romanian and not mixed?
because he comes quite close to my results and I am mixed:
He is not close to your results, he is even southern than Zmey, he is similar to people from Vaslui what you posted here earlier, he basically have same results like them. For his region he is visible southern genetically, and by the way he have Slavic surname with "schi" on the end, and he is from Arbore village.
https://i.imgur.com/D3rLWQ5.png
can i larp as Roman? can i? can i?
https://i.imgur.com/xX6X8Wo.jpg
Bakha
12-11-2019, 10:50 PM
can i larp as Roman? can i? can i?
https://i.imgur.com/xX6X8Wo.jpg
Roman? No way
Arab/NA? Easily
Roman? No way
Arab/NA? Easily
stop following me everywhere
Bakha
12-11-2019, 10:56 PM
stop following me everywhere
Lol you re paranoid? Whatever
Lol you re paranoid? Whatever
u keep calling me a nigga'
CommonSense
12-11-2019, 11:29 PM
Two Serbs, brother and sister, from Lika. They're paternally from a village called Zalužnica and their surname is Milinović.
Brother:
K13:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.76
2 North_Atlantic 22.43
3 East_Med 19.58
4 West_Med 18.57
5 West_Asian 4.52
6 Red_Sea 2.07
7 Siberian 1.05
8 East_Asian 0.79
9 South_Asian 0.11
10 Oceanian 0.09
11 Amerindian 0.02
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 7.81
2 Romanian 8.48
3 Bulgarian 8.81
4 Moldavian 10.2
5 Croatian 11.8
6 Hungarian 13.24
7 Greek_Thessaly 15.67
8 Austrian 16.71
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.52
10 East_German 17.72
11 Ukrainian 18.23
12 South_Polish 18.25
13 North_Italian 19.76
14 Tuscan 20.36
15 Southwest_Russian 21.14
16 Polish 21.44
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.84
18 West_German 22.03
19 French 22.57
20 Italian_Abruzzo 22.83
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.5% Ukrainian + 36.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.79
2 57.5% Estonian_Polish + 42.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.99
3 63.7% Ukrainian + 36.3% Italian_Jewish @ 5.01
4 57.3% Ukrainian + 42.7% Ashkenazi @ 5.06
5 57.7% Estonian_Polish + 42.3% Italian_Jewish @ 5.19
6 56.8% Belorussian + 43.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.26
7 60.4% Greek_Thessaly + 39.6% Estonian_Polish @ 5.28
8 52.3% Lithuanian + 47.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.29
9 61.1% Greek_Thessaly + 38.9% Belorussian @ 5.37
10 59.5% Polish + 40.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.48
11 52.5% Lithuanian + 47.5% Italian_Jewish @ 5.5
12 50.1% Estonian_Polish + 49.9% West_Sicilian @ 5.5
13 51% Estonian_Polish + 49% Ashkenazi @ 5.52
14 65.4% Greek_Thessaly + 34.6% Lithuanian @ 5.53
15 57.6% Russian_Smolensk + 42.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.59
16 52.6% Estonian + 47.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.6
17 63.7% South_Polish + 36.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.64
18 53% Polish + 47% Ashkenazi @ 5.66
19 54.3% Greek_Thessaly + 45.7% Ukrainian @ 5.66
20 57% Belorussian + 43% Italian_Jewish @ 5.7
K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 19.45
2 East_Med 17.35
3 North_Sea 16.94
4 West_Med 14.23
5 Atlantic 13.81
6 Eastern_Euro 12.27
7 West_Asian 3.6
8 Red_Sea 1.52
9 Southeast_Asian 0.6
10 Siberian 0.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 8.26
2 Romanian 8.51
3 Bulgarian 8.97
4 Moldavian 10.46
5 Croatian 11.63
6 Hungarian 12.05
7 Austrian 13.32
8 Greek_Thessaly 13.39
9 Greek 14.6
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.28
11 East_German 16.77
12 Ukrainian 16.88
13 South_Polish 17.07
14 North_Italian 17.24
15 Tuscan 17.34
16 Ashkenazi 19.31
17 Polish 19.35
18 Italian_Abruzzo 19.7
19 Russian_Smolensk 19.86
20 Central_Greek 19.99
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.1% Ukrainian + 37.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.77
2 61.4% Ukrainian + 38.6% Italian_Jewish @ 5.14
3 63.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 36.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.43
4 63.2% Greek_Thessaly + 36.8% Estonian_Polish @ 5.48
5 63% Greek_Thessaly + 37% Belorussian @ 5.5
6 66.2% Greek_Thessaly + 33.8% Lithuanian @ 5.53
7 62% South_Polish + 38% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.64
8 60.4% Greek_Thessaly + 39.6% Polish @ 5.65
9 54.8% Ukrainian + 45.2% West_Sicilian @ 5.66
10 65.5% Greek_Thessaly + 34.5% Estonian @ 5.71
11 56.7% Greek_Thessaly + 43.3% Ukrainian @ 5.72
12 54.2% Greek + 45.8% Ukrainian @ 5.73
13 63.1% Greek + 36.9% Estonian @ 5.78
14 58.5% Ukrainian + 41.5% South_Italian @ 5.79
15 58.8% Polish + 41.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.8
16 53.4% Estonian + 46.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.8
17 62.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 37.4% Italian_Jewish @ 5.83
18 62.7% Ukrainian + 37.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.9
19 61.3% South_Polish + 38.7% Italian_Jewish @ 5.96
20 57.9% Polish + 42.1% Italian_Jewish @ 5.99
Sister:
K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.56
2 North_Atlantic 23.96
3 East_Med 19.15
4 West_Med 15.48
5 West_Asian 6.33
6 Siberian 1.68
7 Red_Sea 1.36
8 Amerindian 1
9 Northeast_African 0.26
10 East_Asian 0.24
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.95
2 Romanian 7.2
3 Bulgarian 8.24
4 Moldavian 8.61
5 Croatian 10.32
6 Hungarian 10.96
7 Austrian 14.99
8 Greek_Thessaly 16.08
9 East_German 16.13
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.18
11 South_Polish 16.68
12 Ukrainian 16.99
13 Southwest_Russian 19.65
14 Polish 20.1
15 North_Italian 20.23
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.29
17 West_German 20.36
18 Tuscan 20.81
19 French 21.72
20 Russian_Smolensk 21.83
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.2% Ukrainian + 40.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.99
2 65.4% Ukrainian + 34.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.06
3 59.2% Estonian_Polish + 40.8% Italian_Jewish @ 3.26
4 59.7% South_Polish + 40.3% Ashkenazi @ 3.35
5 52.1% Ashkenazi + 47.9% Estonian @ 3.42
6 55% Polish + 45% Ashkenazi @ 3.44
7 58.6% Greek_Thessaly + 41.4% Belorussian @ 3.53
8 58.7% Belorussian + 41.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.54
9 54% Lithuanian + 46% Italian_Jewish @ 3.58
10 65.5% Ukrainian + 34.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.62
11 54.5% Estonian + 45.5% Italian_Jewish @ 3.63
12 52.8% Estonian_Polish + 47.2% Ashkenazi @ 3.63
13 54.5% Estonian + 45.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.66
14 58% Greek_Thessaly + 42% Estonian_Polish @ 3.74
15 62.7% Greek_Thessaly + 37.3% Estonian @ 3.74
16 52.2% Belorussian + 47.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.78
17 55% Belorussian + 45% South_Italian @ 3.78
18 54.8% Southwest_Russian + 45.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.82
19 61.5% Polish + 38.5% Italian_Jewish @ 3.83
20 66% South_Polish + 34% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.83
K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.53
2 Atlantic 20.26
3 East_Med 15.16
4 Eastern_Euro 12.17
5 North_Sea 12.03
6 West_Med 10.3
7 West_Asian 6.34
8 Red_Sea 1.32
9 Siberian 1
10 Amerindian 0.86
11 Northeast_African 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 8.28
2 Bulgarian 8.29
3 Serbian 8.79
4 Croatian 10.18
5 Austrian 10.62
6 Moldavian 10.95
7 Hungarian 12.67
8 Greek 15.01
9 South_Polish 16.01
10 Greek_Thessaly 16.31
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.32
12 East_German 16.54
13 Ukrainian 17.02
14 Russian_Smolensk 17.36
15 Polish 17.88
16 North_Italian 18.1
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.17
18 Tuscan 18.36
19 Southwest_Russian 18.52
20 Belorussian 19.57
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.7% Russian_Smolensk + 45.3% West_Sicilian @ 4.23
2 51.5% Belorussian + 48.5% West_Sicilian @ 4.27
3 52.8% West_Sicilian + 47.2% Lithuanian @ 4.36
4 57.1% Greek + 42.9% Belorussian @ 4.41
5 51.4% Estonian_Polish + 48.6% West_Sicilian @ 4.41
6 53.9% Greek + 46.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.48
7 57.2% Greek + 42.8% Estonian_Polish @ 4.52
8 62.7% Russian_Smolensk + 37.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.86
9 55.4% Estonian_Polish + 44.6% South_Italian @ 4.86
10 58.7% Russian_Smolensk + 41.3% South_Italian @ 4.89
11 61.4% Greek + 38.6% Lithuanian @ 4.92
12 54.8% Greek + 45.2% Polish @ 4.94
13 55.5% Belorussian + 44.5% South_Italian @ 4.98
14 53% Southwest_Russian + 47% West_Sicilian @ 5.03
15 62.3% Russian_Smolensk + 37.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.08
16 62.2% Russian_Smolensk + 37.8% Italian_Jewish @ 5.21
17 50.6% Estonian_Polish + 49.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.27
18 53.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46.4% West_Sicilian @ 5.3
19 50.8% Belorussian + 49.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.33
20 59.7% Belorussian + 40.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.34
Aspirin
12-11-2019, 11:58 PM
Aspirin is also ashamed of his Vlach-ness but at least doesn't troll randomly and looks for actual arguments.
Bullshit, I just don't belive what people from Moldova are so Balkanoids genetically like Wallachians. Here happend plenty of interaction with Eastern Slavs since Middle Ages (I don't speak about recent colonisations in the territories annexed from Moldova by Russia and Austria), and to belive what this never had any effect on today Moldavians is laughlable. I have relatives in my family who looks totally Eastern Euro and I don't know about any Russian or Ukrainian origins, some of them have ancestry from today Romania (Iași county), were people are very similar in terms of look.
WeirdLookingFellow
12-12-2019, 06:17 AM
can i larp as Roman? can i? can i?
https://i.imgur.com/xX6X8Wo.jpg
Yes, as a Hun-Avar-Trojan noble.
Never said you weren't Romanian, I just get the feeling you identify more as a Slav. Nothing wrong with that. As to Nurzat, he constantly says "we Romanians" followed by some negative BS, maybe that is why people responded. Ever thought of that? Don't play dumb.
When you say Romanian larp as Romans what you really mean is "where do these uppity Romanians get off speaking a Romance language, why can't they speak some shitty sounding Slavic gibberish like the rest of us Eastern Euro?". Because we have good taste, that is why.
I do identify more as a Slav, as a Balkan Slav to be specific. By Roman larping I mean thinking we are the courageous descendants of legions that actually held the place for some time and will absolutely refuse to believe that at some point or more times in history, this place was recolonized with other populations from the South/South-West; that the Slavic influence was "minimal", or "only in language". They believe the Re-latinization of the language in the 19th century was "minimal".
There is no genetic anthropology professor in Romania, nor any Institute; you go to the faculty of history and they're still debating there whether "brad" and "bucurie" are Albanian in origin or whether Dacians really streteched until Bavaria and, hence, we should demand land or something. Some go as far as to think that the Moravian Vlachs were there since ancient times, when it's known they settled somewhere in medieval times, although their transhumance probably made them aware of the place.
Nobody talks here about genetics and hence there is no incentive to get more samples from Romania; they just recently found a ditch with some people that were probably executed and they were mercenaries, even that was in Dobrogea where there's more international interest.
There's not a single Romanian here that far up the Consul's ass. I have no qualms against the Romanian language apart from it's forced re-latinization. Re-latinization means reinforcing the Romance aspect, not that Romanian was a Slavic language turned Romance.
WeirdLookingFellow
12-12-2019, 06:20 AM
Bullshit, I just don't belive what people from Moldova are so Balkanoids genetically like Wallachians. Here happend plenty of interaction with Eastern Slavs since Middle Ages (I don't speak about recent colonisations in the territories annexed from Moldova by Russia and Austria), and to belive what this never had any effect on today Moldavians is laughlable. I have relatives in my family who looks totally Eastern Euro and I don't know about any Russian or Ukrainian origins, some of them have ancestry from today Romania (Iași county), were people are very similar in terms of look.
Being somewhat more northern than Wallachians still keeps you and I in deep Balkan territory and though a 2D PCA is not the best to see it, it's clear how we are some Paleo-Balkan people which plotted between Greeks and Italians that got pulled by Slavs.
Aspirin
12-12-2019, 08:06 AM
Being somewhat more northern than Wallachians still keeps you and I in deep Balkan territory and though a 2D PCA is not the best to see it, it's clear how we are some Paleo-Balkan people which plotted between Greeks and Italians that got pulled by Slavs.
Don't exist any specific Balkan cluster, and I am for sure not in "deep" Balkan territory.
Ask for his K36 (its good for plotting and vbnetkhio has a K36 plot).
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 1.80 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.40 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.09 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 19.13 Pct
East_Med 0.13 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.29 Pct
Fennoscandian 6.71 Pct
French 6.86 Pct
Iberian 10.82 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 20.17 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 0.12 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 4.24 Pct
North_Caucasian 7.61 Pct
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy 0.22 Pct
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 4.33 Pct
I hope he plots him :)
Bullshit, I just don't belive what people from Moldova are so Balkanoids genetically like Wallachians. Here happend plenty of interaction with Eastern Slavs since Middle Ages (I don't speak about recent colonisations in the territories annexed from Moldova by Russia and Austria), and to belive what this never had any effect on today Moldavians is laughlable. I have relatives in my family who looks totally Eastern Euro and I don't know about any Russian or Ukrainian origins, some of them have ancestry from today Romania (Iași county), were people are very similar in terms of look.
Your father looks more Eastern European or Slavic proper than any member of my immediate family.
vbnetkhio
12-12-2019, 11:25 AM
Amerindian -
I hope he plots him :)
https://i.imgur.com/EXY9KM1.png
https://i.imgur.com/EXY9KM1.png
Thanks!
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