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vbnetkhio
12-12-2019, 11:28 AM
Which one is he? Edit: I see
Thanks!
krk/senj_croat
Mingle
12-13-2019, 01:30 AM
some 1/3 of the territory of the county is not inhabited by ethnic Romanians (Ukrainian villages mostly, but also Polish and Russian) - do you know for sure he's ethnic Romanian and not mixed?
because he comes quite close to my results and I am mixed:
Late reply, but I just got confirmation that they're fully Romanian without any Slavic ancestry. I don't know why you would expect them to plot like Wallachians when they're from the far northern part of Romania. They actually plot a little more southern than I expected, especially when you compare them to the Moldavian average. They aren't too distant to Carpatz who also gets Serbian as his top population in K13.
Mingle
12-14-2019, 08:35 PM
Ethnicity: Croat
Region: Vrlika
Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.58
2 North_Atlantic 23.91
3 West_Med 18.77
4 East_Med 15.65
5 West_Asian 9.94
6 Red_Sea 2.35
7 Amerindian 1.42
8 Oceanian 0.27
9 East_Asian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 4.17
2 Serbian 4.3
3 Bulgarian 5.73
4 Moldavian 8.05
5 Croatian 10.64
6 Hungarian 11.25
7 Greek_Thessaly 13.98
8 Austrian 14.16
9 East_German 15.63
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.17
11 North_Italian 17.27
12 South_Polish 18.1
13 Tuscan 18.33
14 Ukrainian 18.45
15 West_German 18.97
16 French 19.6
17 Italian_Abruzzo 20.34
18 South_Dutch 20.42
19 Central_Greek 21
20 Portuguese 21.21
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57% Croatian + 43% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.08
2 70.7% Croatian + 29.3% South_Italian @ 2.14
3 66.8% Croatian + 33.2% Central_Greek @ 2.21
4 66.7% Bulgarian + 33.3% Croatian @ 2.45
5 68.1% Croatian + 31.9% East_Sicilian @ 2.5
6 67.6% Croatian + 32.4% West_Sicilian @ 2.65
7 73.9% Moldavian + 26.1% West_Sicilian @ 2.7
8 60.8% Greek_Thessaly + 39.2% Polish @ 2.72
9 70.5% Moldavian + 29.5% Tuscan @ 2.72
10 64.4% Moldavian + 35.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.73
11 76.6% Romanian + 23.4% Croatian @ 2.73
12 55.3% Greek_Thessaly + 44.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.75
13 57.1% Greek_Thessaly + 42.9% Ukrainian @ 2.78
14 70.9% Romanian + 29.1% Moldavian @ 2.78
15 60.2% Bulgarian + 39.8% Moldavian @ 2.8
16 57.9% Ukrainian + 42.1% South_Italian @ 2.81
17 81% Bulgarian + 19% Polish @ 2.82
18 77.3% Bulgarian + 22.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.84
19 85.9% Romanian + 14.1% Ukrainian @ 2.89
20 66.3% Croatian + 33.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.89
Eurogenes K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 18.82
2 North_Sea 16.02
3 Atlantic 15.37
4 West_Med 14.48
5 East_Med 13.16
6 Eastern_Euro 9.75
7 West_Asian 9.74
8 Red_Sea 1.77
9 Amerindian 0.9
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.65
2 Bulgarian 4.86
3 Serbian 5.94
4 Moldavian 8.36
5 Croatian 9.87
6 Hungarian 10.78
7 Austrian 11.43
8 Greek_Thessaly 12.06
9 Greek 13.14
10 East_German 15.08
11 North_Italian 15.39
12 Tuscan 15.6
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.79
14 South_Polish 16.49
15 Ukrainian 16.83
16 Italian_Abruzzo 17.8
17 French 18.38
18 Central_Greek 18.48
19 Ashkenazi 18.66
20 Spanish_Galicia 18.75
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.2% Croatian + 44.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.19
2 71.6% Bulgarian + 28.4% Hungarian @ 2.53
3 79.1% Bulgarian + 20.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.59
4 80.2% Bulgarian + 19.8% Ukrainian @ 2.62
5 69.6% Croatian + 30.4% South_Italian @ 2.72
6 70.3% Bulgarian + 29.7% Croatian @ 2.74
7 66.4% Bulgarian + 33.6% Moldavian @ 2.77
8 65.9% Croatian + 34.1% Central_Greek @ 2.79
9 54.8% Greek + 45.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.81
10 80.5% Bulgarian + 19.5% South_Polish @ 2.86
11 58.1% Greek_Thessaly + 41.9% South_Polish @ 2.92
12 79.3% Bulgarian + 20.7% East_German @ 2.94
13 86.2% Bulgarian + 13.8% Estonian @ 2.98
14 61.9% Greek_Thessaly + 38.1% Polish @ 3.01
15 83.3% Bulgarian + 16.7% Polish @ 3.02
16 57.6% Croatian + 42.4% Greek @ 3.03
17 67.1% Croatian + 32.9% East_Sicilian @ 3.08
18 56.4% Greek + 43.6% Ukrainian @ 3.1
19 62.3% Greek_Thessaly + 37.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.11
20 56.7% Ukrainian + 43.3% South_Italian @ 3.13
Eurogenes K36
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 1.84 Pct
Basque 1.68 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.15 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.36 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 12.16 Pct
East_Med 4.82 Pct
Eastern_Euro 7.34 Pct
Fennoscandian 5.89 Pct
French 2.08 Pct
Iberian 12.02 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.18 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 3.38 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 3.22 Pct
North_Caucasian 4.57 Pct
North_Sea 5.34 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.35 Pct
West_Med 4.57 Pct
Pribislav
12-14-2019, 09:14 PM
Ethnicity: Croat
Region: Vrlika
Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.58
2 North_Atlantic 23.91
3 West_Med 18.77
4 East_Med 15.65
5 West_Asian 9.94
6 Red_Sea 2.35
7 Amerindian 1.42
8 Oceanian 0.27
9 East_Asian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 4.17
2 Serbian 4.3
3 Bulgarian 5.73
4 Moldavian 8.05
5 Croatian 10.64
6 Hungarian 11.25
7 Greek_Thessaly 13.98
8 Austrian 14.16
9 East_German 15.63
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.17
11 North_Italian 17.27
12 South_Polish 18.1
13 Tuscan 18.33
14 Ukrainian 18.45
15 West_German 18.97
16 French 19.6
17 Italian_Abruzzo 20.34
18 South_Dutch 20.42
19 Central_Greek 21
20 Portuguese 21.21
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57% Croatian + 43% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.08
2 70.7% Croatian + 29.3% South_Italian @ 2.14
3 66.8% Croatian + 33.2% Central_Greek @ 2.21
4 66.7% Bulgarian + 33.3% Croatian @ 2.45
5 68.1% Croatian + 31.9% East_Sicilian @ 2.5
6 67.6% Croatian + 32.4% West_Sicilian @ 2.65
7 73.9% Moldavian + 26.1% West_Sicilian @ 2.7
8 60.8% Greek_Thessaly + 39.2% Polish @ 2.72
9 70.5% Moldavian + 29.5% Tuscan @ 2.72
10 64.4% Moldavian + 35.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.73
11 76.6% Romanian + 23.4% Croatian @ 2.73
12 55.3% Greek_Thessaly + 44.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.75
13 57.1% Greek_Thessaly + 42.9% Ukrainian @ 2.78
14 70.9% Romanian + 29.1% Moldavian @ 2.78
15 60.2% Bulgarian + 39.8% Moldavian @ 2.8
16 57.9% Ukrainian + 42.1% South_Italian @ 2.81
17 81% Bulgarian + 19% Polish @ 2.82
18 77.3% Bulgarian + 22.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.84
19 85.9% Romanian + 14.1% Ukrainian @ 2.89
20 66.3% Croatian + 33.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.89
Eurogenes K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 18.82
2 North_Sea 16.02
3 Atlantic 15.37
4 West_Med 14.48
5 East_Med 13.16
6 Eastern_Euro 9.75
7 West_Asian 9.74
8 Red_Sea 1.77
9 Amerindian 0.9
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.65
2 Bulgarian 4.86
3 Serbian 5.94
4 Moldavian 8.36
5 Croatian 9.87
6 Hungarian 10.78
7 Austrian 11.43
8 Greek_Thessaly 12.06
9 Greek 13.14
10 East_German 15.08
11 North_Italian 15.39
12 Tuscan 15.6
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.79
14 South_Polish 16.49
15 Ukrainian 16.83
16 Italian_Abruzzo 17.8
17 French 18.38
18 Central_Greek 18.48
19 Ashkenazi 18.66
20 Spanish_Galicia 18.75
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.2% Croatian + 44.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.19
2 71.6% Bulgarian + 28.4% Hungarian @ 2.53
3 79.1% Bulgarian + 20.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.59
4 80.2% Bulgarian + 19.8% Ukrainian @ 2.62
5 69.6% Croatian + 30.4% South_Italian @ 2.72
6 70.3% Bulgarian + 29.7% Croatian @ 2.74
7 66.4% Bulgarian + 33.6% Moldavian @ 2.77
8 65.9% Croatian + 34.1% Central_Greek @ 2.79
9 54.8% Greek + 45.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.81
10 80.5% Bulgarian + 19.5% South_Polish @ 2.86
11 58.1% Greek_Thessaly + 41.9% South_Polish @ 2.92
12 79.3% Bulgarian + 20.7% East_German @ 2.94
13 86.2% Bulgarian + 13.8% Estonian @ 2.98
14 61.9% Greek_Thessaly + 38.1% Polish @ 3.01
15 83.3% Bulgarian + 16.7% Polish @ 3.02
16 57.6% Croatian + 42.4% Greek @ 3.03
17 67.1% Croatian + 32.9% East_Sicilian @ 3.08
18 56.4% Greek + 43.6% Ukrainian @ 3.1
19 62.3% Greek_Thessaly + 37.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.11
20 56.7% Ukrainian + 43.3% South_Italian @ 3.13
Eurogenes K36
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 1.84 Pct
Basque 1.68 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.15 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.36 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 12.16 Pct
East_Med 4.82 Pct
Eastern_Euro 7.34 Pct
Fennoscandian 5.89 Pct
French 2.08 Pct
Iberian 12.02 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.18 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 3.38 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 3.22 Pct
North_Caucasian 4.57 Pct
North_Sea 5.34 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.35 Pct
West_Med 4.57 Pct
Interesting.
I wonder how will Feiichy survive this? :cool:
Interesting.
I wonder how will Feiichy survive this? :cool:
Looks like Vlach results, same as insuparable.
Pribislav
12-14-2019, 09:17 PM
Looks like Vlach results, same as insuparable.
Bunjevci are Vlachs, you said this yesterday.
Bunjevci are Vlachs, you said this yesterday.
Yes. Like Serbs.
Pribislav
12-14-2019, 09:27 PM
Yes. Like Serbs.
Ivan Antunović was right when he claimed Illyrian origin of Bunjevci. :)
Pribislav
12-14-2019, 09:51 PM
..
https://forum.krstarica.com/attachments/20191214_220005-jpg.624133/
https://forum.krstarica.com/attachments/20191214_220140-jpg.624137/
https://forum.krstarica.com/attachments/20191214_220140-jpg.624137/
https://forum.krstarica.com/attachments/screenshot_20191214-220825_gallery-jpg.624138/
Insuperable
12-14-2019, 10:02 PM
Looks like Vlach results, same as insuparable.
That's your southern Croat countryman. Don't tell me he is not good enough.
That's your southern Croat countryman. Don't tell me he is not good enough.
I am just joking. Why don't you post your results? We already know you shift south. Post K36 so you can be on PCA. Or you have some irrational fears from PribiVlach?
Interesting.
I wonder how will Feiichy survive this? :cool:
I know why you will not be doing autosomal testing. Afraid you will end up either in Croatia, or Thessaly.
Pribislav
12-14-2019, 10:16 PM
I am afraid to be close to Croatians.
Mingle
12-14-2019, 10:20 PM
..
https://forum.krstarica.com/attachments/20191214_220005-jpg.624133/
https://forum.krstarica.com/attachments/20191214_220140-jpg.624137/
https://forum.krstarica.com/attachments/20191214_220140-jpg.624137/
https://forum.krstarica.com/attachments/screenshot_20191214-220825_gallery-jpg.624138/
None of the images are working. When I try copy-pasting those links in the URL, it says you need an account to view them.
Pribislav
12-14-2019, 10:26 PM
None of the images are working. When I try copy-pasting those links in the URL, it says you need an account to view them.
I wanted to post results of Serb from Nikšić, but I can't for some reason.
Mingle
12-14-2019, 10:28 PM
I wanted to post results of Serb from Nikšić, but Ican't for some reason.
Screenshot them and then upload them to some image hosting site.
Or you can link to the thread if you prefer.
Insuperable
12-17-2019, 07:41 PM
My 3rd cousin on 23andme. Croatian from (East) Herzegovina (Stolac).
K15
North_Sea 14.16 Pct
Atlantic 20.25 Pct
Baltic 17.37 Pct
Eastern_Euro 13.55 Pct
West_Med 12.12 Pct
West_Asian 6.78 Pct
East_Med 13.87 Pct
Red_Sea 1.14 Pct
South_Asian 0.67 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.08 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
vbnetkhio
12-17-2019, 07:43 PM
My 3rd cousin on 23andme. Croatian from (East) Herzegovina (Stolac).
K15
North_Sea 14.16 Pct
Atlantic 20.25 Pct
Baltic 17.37 Pct
Eastern_Euro 13.55 Pct
West_Med 12.12 Pct
West_Asian 6.78 Pct
East_Med 13.87 Pct
Red_Sea 1.14 Pct
South_Asian 0.67 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.08 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
post k13
Insuperable
12-17-2019, 07:44 PM
post k13
North_Atlantic 24.70 Pct
Baltic 28.90 Pct
West_Med 18.35 Pct
West_Asian 8.19 Pct
East_Med 16.49 Pct
Red_Sea 1.19 Pct
South_Asian 0.92 Pct
East_Asian 0.44 Pct
Siberian 0.42 Pct
Amerindian 0.39 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
CommonSense
12-17-2019, 08:01 PM
North_Atlantic 24.70 Pct
Baltic 28.90 Pct
West_Med 18.35 Pct
West_Asian 8.19 Pct
East_Med 16.49 Pct
Red_Sea 1.19 Pct
South_Asian 0.92 Pct
East_Asian 0.44 Pct
Siberian 0.42 Pct
Amerindian 0.39 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Strikingly similar North Atlantic/Baltic ratio to myself. I get 28.67 Baltic and 24.65 North Atlantic.
Insuperable
12-17-2019, 11:48 PM
Says Croatian, surname from my place (Herzegovina), like you can't mistake it, but she could just be married to some Croatian guy from here.
K13
North_Atlantic 28.38 Pct
Baltic 27.43 Pct
West_Med 16.84 Pct
West_Asian 7.55 Pct
East_Med 16.79 Pct
Red_Sea 1.83 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.59 Pct
Amerindian 0.35 Pct
Oceanian 0.25 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
K15
North_Sea 17.46 Pct
Atlantic 20.16 Pct
Baltic 17.38 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.17 Pct
West_Med 12.58 Pct
West_Asian 7.98 Pct
East_Med 12.39 Pct
Red_Sea 1.77 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.06 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
CommonSense
01-25-2020, 05:22 PM
Bosniak
K13 :
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 35.26
2 North_Atlantic 28.12
3 West_Med 14.88
4 East_Med 11.76
5 West_Asian 5.97
6 Red_Sea 2.41
7 South_Asian 0.6
8 Northeast_African 0.55
9 East_Asian 0.44
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.22
2 Moldavian 5.42
3 Hungarian 5.87
4 Serbian 8.46
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.81
6 South_Polish 8.97
7 East_German 9.76
8 Ukrainian 9.79
9 Austrian 9.82
10 Polish 12.33
11 Romanian 12.52
12 Southwest_Russian 13.55
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.04
14 Bulgarian 14.66
15 Russian_Smolensk 14.7
16 Estonian_Polish 15.07
17 Belorussian 15.53
18 Southwest_Finnish 17.53
19 West_German 17.62
20 Kargopol_Russian 17.95
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.7% Lithuanian + 43.3% Tuscan @ 1.31
2 63.7% Estonian_Polish + 36.3% Tuscan @ 1.64
3 64.3% Russian_Smolensk + 35.7% Tuscan @ 1.71
4 63% Belorussian + 37% Tuscan @ 1.84
5 71.3% Polish + 28.7% West_Sicilian @ 1.91
6 68.4% Polish + 31.6% Tuscan @ 2.18
7 73.4% Ukrainian + 26.6% Tuscan @ 2.31
8 64.2% Southwest_Russian + 35.8% North_Italian @ 2.33
9 59.8% Serbian + 40.2% Polish @ 2.37
10 64.7% Serbian + 35.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.37
11 81.9% South_Polish + 18.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.4
12 76.4% Polish + 23.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.41
13 61.7% Estonian_Polish + 38.3% North_Italian @ 2.42
14 62.3% Russian_Smolensk + 37.7% North_Italian @ 2.42
15 71.2% Serbian + 28.8% Lithuanian @ 2.44
16 77.8% South_Polish + 22.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.46
17 65.5% Serbian + 34.5% Belorussian @ 2.49
18 65.6% Polish + 34.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.54
19 82% South_Polish + 18% Italian_Jewish @ 2.54
20 61% Belorussian + 39% North_Italian @ 2.56
K15 :
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 23.98
2 North_Sea 18.78
3 Atlantic 18.13
4 Eastern_Euro 13.09
5 West_Med 9.19
6 East_Med 8.46
7 West_Asian 5.66
8 Red_Sea 2.43
9 Northeast_African 0.26
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.43
2 Hungarian 6.09
3 Moldavian 6.19
4 Austrian 6.99
5 South_Polish 7.98
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.06
7 Serbian 9.03
8 Ukrainian 9.12
9 Polish 10.34
10 East_German 10.36
11 Russian_Smolensk 10.91
12 Romanian 10.97
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.01
14 Southwest_Russian 12.34
15 Belorussian 12.92
16 Bulgarian 13.13
17 Estonian_Polish 13.26
18 Southwest_Finnish 14.99
19 Estonian 15.49
20 Finnish 15.7
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.9% Lithuanian + 41.1% Tuscan @ 1.5
2 64.6% Belorussian + 35.4% Tuscan @ 2.12
3 75.2% Polish + 24.8% South_Italian @ 2.5
4 78.2% South_Polish + 21.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.59
5 73.5% Polish + 26.5% East_Sicilian @ 2.66
6 57.2% Lithuanian + 42.8% North_Italian @ 2.7
7 80.2% South_Polish + 19.8% South_Italian @ 2.73
8 82.2% South_Polish + 17.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.77
9 73% Polish + 27% Central_Greek @ 2.79
10 82.4% South_Polish + 17.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.8
11 56.3% Polish + 43.7% Bulgarian @ 2.81
12 75.7% South_Polish + 24.3% Tuscan @ 2.82
13 82% South_Polish + 18% Italian_Jewish @ 2.84
14 67.6% Polish + 32.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.84
15 78.8% South_Polish + 21.2% East_Sicilian @ 2.84
16 68.8% Russian_Smolensk + 31.2% Tuscan @ 2.85
17 72.2% Polish + 27.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.91
18 77.7% South_Polish + 22.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.91
19 83.6% South_Polish + 16.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.92
20 74.3% South_Polish + 25.7% Greek @ 2.93
Bosniak
K13 :
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 35.26
2 North_Atlantic 28.12
3 West_Med 14.88
4 East_Med 11.76
5 West_Asian 5.97
6 Red_Sea 2.41
7 South_Asian 0.6
8 Northeast_African 0.55
9 East_Asian 0.44
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.22
2 Moldavian 5.42
3 Hungarian 5.87
4 Serbian 8.46
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.81
6 South_Polish 8.97
7 East_German 9.76
8 Ukrainian 9.79
9 Austrian 9.82
10 Polish 12.33
11 Romanian 12.52
12 Southwest_Russian 13.55
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.04
14 Bulgarian 14.66
15 Russian_Smolensk 14.7
16 Estonian_Polish 15.07
17 Belorussian 15.53
18 Southwest_Finnish 17.53
19 West_German 17.62
20 Kargopol_Russian 17.95
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.7% Lithuanian + 43.3% Tuscan @ 1.31
2 63.7% Estonian_Polish + 36.3% Tuscan @ 1.64
3 64.3% Russian_Smolensk + 35.7% Tuscan @ 1.71
4 63% Belorussian + 37% Tuscan @ 1.84
5 71.3% Polish + 28.7% West_Sicilian @ 1.91
6 68.4% Polish + 31.6% Tuscan @ 2.18
7 73.4% Ukrainian + 26.6% Tuscan @ 2.31
8 64.2% Southwest_Russian + 35.8% North_Italian @ 2.33
9 59.8% Serbian + 40.2% Polish @ 2.37
10 64.7% Serbian + 35.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.37
11 81.9% South_Polish + 18.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.4
12 76.4% Polish + 23.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.41
13 61.7% Estonian_Polish + 38.3% North_Italian @ 2.42
14 62.3% Russian_Smolensk + 37.7% North_Italian @ 2.42
15 71.2% Serbian + 28.8% Lithuanian @ 2.44
16 77.8% South_Polish + 22.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.46
17 65.5% Serbian + 34.5% Belorussian @ 2.49
18 65.6% Polish + 34.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.54
19 82% South_Polish + 18% Italian_Jewish @ 2.54
20 61% Belorussian + 39% North_Italian @ 2.56
K15 :
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 23.98
2 North_Sea 18.78
3 Atlantic 18.13
4 Eastern_Euro 13.09
5 West_Med 9.19
6 East_Med 8.46
7 West_Asian 5.66
8 Red_Sea 2.43
9 Northeast_African 0.26
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.43
2 Hungarian 6.09
3 Moldavian 6.19
4 Austrian 6.99
5 South_Polish 7.98
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.06
7 Serbian 9.03
8 Ukrainian 9.12
9 Polish 10.34
10 East_German 10.36
11 Russian_Smolensk 10.91
12 Romanian 10.97
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.01
14 Southwest_Russian 12.34
15 Belorussian 12.92
16 Bulgarian 13.13
17 Estonian_Polish 13.26
18 Southwest_Finnish 14.99
19 Estonian 15.49
20 Finnish 15.7
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.9% Lithuanian + 41.1% Tuscan @ 1.5
2 64.6% Belorussian + 35.4% Tuscan @ 2.12
3 75.2% Polish + 24.8% South_Italian @ 2.5
4 78.2% South_Polish + 21.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.59
5 73.5% Polish + 26.5% East_Sicilian @ 2.66
6 57.2% Lithuanian + 42.8% North_Italian @ 2.7
7 80.2% South_Polish + 19.8% South_Italian @ 2.73
8 82.2% South_Polish + 17.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.77
9 73% Polish + 27% Central_Greek @ 2.79
10 82.4% South_Polish + 17.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.8
11 56.3% Polish + 43.7% Bulgarian @ 2.81
12 75.7% South_Polish + 24.3% Tuscan @ 2.82
13 82% South_Polish + 18% Italian_Jewish @ 2.84
14 67.6% Polish + 32.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.84
15 78.8% South_Polish + 21.2% East_Sicilian @ 2.84
16 68.8% Russian_Smolensk + 31.2% Tuscan @ 2.85
17 72.2% Polish + 27.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.91
18 77.7% South_Polish + 22.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.91
19 83.6% South_Polish + 16.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.92
20 74.3% South_Polish + 25.7% Greek @ 2.93
Wow, he is so Northern, look at those Baltic and Atlantic scores! Also no East Eurasian influence whatsoever. Very pure genetics.
Can you post his Dodecad K12b?
CommonSense
01-26-2020, 12:31 PM
Wow, he is so Northern, look at those Baltic and Atlantic scores! Also no East Eurasian influence whatsoever. Very pure genetics.
Can you post his Dodecad K12b?
It's a woman, by the way.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 45.45
2 Atlantic_Med 27.35
3 Caucasus 17.83
4 Southwest_Asian 4.19
5 Gedrosia 3.85
6 South_Asian 0.85
7 Southeast_Asian 0.38
8 East_African 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 3.45
2 German (Dodecad) 10.05
3 Romanians (Behar) 13.17
4 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 15.18
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 15.39
6 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 16.26
7 Dutch (Dodecad) 17.21
8 Polish (Dodecad) 18.47
9 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 18.81
10 Swedish (Dodecad) 19.39
11 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 19.81
12 French (Dodecad) 19.85
13 Kent (1000Genomes) 19.9
14 English (Dodecad) 20.03
15 French (HGDP) 20.2
16 Norwegian (Dodecad) 20.42
17 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 20.75
18 British_Isles (Dodecad) 20.84
19 Argyll (1000Genomes) 22.15
20 Orkney (1000Genomes) 22.39
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 8.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.14
2 91.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 8.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.17
3 91.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 8.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.21
4 92.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 7.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.22
5 90.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 9.9% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.24
6 91.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 8.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.24
7 90.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 9.6% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.29
8 93.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.9% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.32
9 88.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 11.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.33
10 93.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.1% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.38
11 90.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 9.8% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.45
12 53.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 46.1% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.46
13 90.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 9.9% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.53
14 80.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 19.1% Romanians (Behar) @ 1.55
15 94.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 5.3% Druze (HGDP) @ 1.59
16 95.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 4.9% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.63
17 83.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 16.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 1.68
18 59.7% Romanians (Behar) + 40.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.68
19 94.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 5.2% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 1.7
20 94.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 5.7% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.7
CommonSense
01-26-2020, 09:06 PM
Serb from Lika, specifically the villages near the town of Korenica. I believe he's related to Jovanka Budisavljević (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovanka_Broz), Tito's wife, since he has the same surname listed among his own and belonging to village of Pećane.
K13:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.94
2 North_Atlantic 26.78
3 West_Med 18.56
4 East_Med 14.17
5 West_Asian 5.8
6 Red_Sea 2.78
7 South_Asian 2.04
8 East_Asian 0.75
9 Oceanian 0.17
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.72
2 Romanian 7.64
3 Moldavian 7.64
4 Croatian 8.78
5 Hungarian 8.78
6 Bulgarian 9.79
7 Austrian 11.22
8 East_German 12.37
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.17
10 South_Polish 15.65
11 Ukrainian 16.29
12 West_German 16.61
13 Greek_Thessaly 17.15
14 French 17.45
15 North_Italian 17.65
16 South_Dutch 17.82
17 Polish 19.05
18 Spanish_Galicia 19.82
19 Tuscan 19.87
20 Portuguese 19.91
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.1% Ukrainian + 44.9% Tuscan @ 2.59
2 52.3% Tuscan + 47.7% Estonian_Polish @ 2.67
3 57.6% Tuscan + 42.4% Lithuanian @ 2.69
4 51.9% Tuscan + 48.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.88
5 70.4% Croatian + 29.6% Tuscan @ 2.93
6 56.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.1% Tuscan @ 2.99
7 67.9% Croatian + 32.1% North_Italian @ 3.11
8 51.1% Polish + 48.9% Tuscan @ 3.13
9 53.4% North_Italian + 46.6% Southwest_Russian @ 3.15
10 53% Tuscan + 47% Belorussian @ 3.27
11 54% North_Italian + 46% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.35
12 55.4% North_Italian + 44.6% Estonian_Polish @ 3.45
13 55.9% Polish + 44.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.52
14 74.7% Croatian + 25.3% West_Sicilian @ 3.56
15 55% North_Italian + 45% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.57
16 56.2% South_Polish + 43.8% Tuscan @ 3.59
17 52.1% Ukrainian + 47.9% North_Italian @ 3.59
18 54% Ukrainian_Lviv + 46% North_Italian @ 3.62
19 59.9% Ukrainian + 40.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.66
20 50.4% Tuscan + 49.6% Southwest_Russian @ 3.69
K15:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 19.69
2 Baltic 18.1
3 Atlantic 14.81
4 West_Med 14.36
5 East_Med 12.51
6 Eastern_Euro 12.4
7 West_Asian 3.88
8 Red_Sea 2.46
9 South_Asian 1.78
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.86
2 Moldavian 7.88
3 Romanian 8.15
4 Hungarian 8.25
5 Croatian 8.9
6 Bulgarian 10.13
7 Austrian 10.14
8 East_German 12.43
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.71
10 Ukrainian 14.38
11 South_Polish 14.49
12 Greek_Thessaly 15.11
13 North_Italian 16.38
14 French 16.54
15 West_German 16.82
16 Polish 16.88
17 Greek 17.02
18 South_Dutch 17.06
19 Spanish_Galicia 17.37
20 Tuscan 17.82
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.7% Ukrainian + 44.3% Tuscan @ 3.81
2 60.9% Ukrainian + 39.1% West_Sicilian @ 4.21
3 57.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 42.9% Tuscan @ 4.28
4 53% Greek_Thessaly + 47% Polish @ 4.58
5 51.4% Ukrainian + 48.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.63
6 62.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 37.7% West_Sicilian @ 4.65
7 67.3% Ukrainian + 32.7% Italian_Jewish @ 4.7
8 68% Hungarian + 32% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.73
9 81.2% Hungarian + 18.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.75
10 68.2% Ukrainian + 31.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.76
11 59.2% Greek_Thessaly + 40.8% Estonian @ 4.81
12 53.6% Ukrainian + 46.4% North_Italian @ 4.9
13 71.1% Hungarian + 28.9% Greek @ 4.9
14 51.2% South_Polish + 48.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.9
15 54.8% Tuscan + 45.2% Estonian @ 4.91
16 71.8% Moldavian + 28.2% North_Italian @ 4.94
17 55% Ukrainian_Lviv + 45% North_Italian @ 4.95
18 55.7% South_Polish + 44.3% Tuscan @ 5.04
19 81.1% Hungarian + 18.9% Italian_Jewish @ 5.08
20 85.2% Hungarian + 14.8% Sardinian @ 5.11
Insuperable
01-28-2020, 01:48 PM
K13. Serb Vujadinovic
North_Atlantic 23.67 Pct
Baltic 24.90 Pct
West_Med 19.84 Pct
West_Asian 11.94 Pct
East_Med 16.83 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.78 Pct
East_Asian 0.31 Pct
Siberian 1.03 Pct
Amerindian 0.15 Pct
Oceanian 0.54 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
K15
North_Sea 13.03 Pct
Atlantic 16.46 Pct
Baltic 16.64 Pct
Eastern_Euro 13.24 Pct
West_Med 15.16 Pct
West_Asian 10.01 Pct
East_Med 14.24 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.48 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.29 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.43 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Insuperable
01-28-2020, 01:52 PM
Some Serb woman
K13
Population
North_Atlantic 26.41 Pct
Baltic 26.24 Pct
West_Med 19.33 Pct
West_Asian 6.92 Pct
East_Med 16.73 Pct
Red_Sea 2.77 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.47 Pct
Amerindian 0.55 Pct
Oceanian 0.60 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
K15
Population
North_Sea 17.83 Pct
Atlantic 18.92 Pct
Baltic 15.85 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.17 Pct
West_Med 14.42 Pct
West_Asian 6.51 Pct
East_Med 13.13 Pct
Red_Sea 2.76 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.40 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
vbnetkhio
01-28-2020, 01:55 PM
Some Serb woman
K13
Population
North_Atlantic 26.41 Pct
Baltic 26.24 Pct
West_Med 19.33 Pct
West_Asian 6.92 Pct
East_Med 16.73 Pct
Red_Sea 2.77 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.47 Pct
Amerindian 0.55 Pct
Oceanian 0.60 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
K15
Population
North_Sea 17.83 Pct
Atlantic 18.92 Pct
Baltic 15.85 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.17 Pct
West_Med 14.42 Pct
West_Asian 6.51 Pct
East_Med 13.13 Pct
Red_Sea 2.76 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.40 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
post them in the new Serb thread, this one is too overcrowded
Insuperable
01-28-2020, 01:56 PM
Another Serb woman
K13
Population
North_Atlantic 21.29 Pct
Baltic 30.91 Pct
West_Med 17.84 Pct
West_Asian 10.40 Pct
East_Med 16.58 Pct
Red_Sea 2.01 Pct
South_Asian 0.39 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.56 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
K15
Population
North_Sea 10.29 Pct
Atlantic 17.04 Pct
Baltic 20.26 Pct
Eastern_Euro 15.11 Pct
West_Med 13.55 Pct
West_Asian 9.25 Pct
East_Med 12.51 Pct
Red_Sea 1.99 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
CommonSense
01-28-2020, 02:07 PM
Vujadinović is from Montenegro, judging by the results and surname.
Insuperable
01-28-2020, 02:11 PM
Probably Serb. Surname Tojaga.
Population
North_Atlantic 29.12 Pct
Baltic 29.29 Pct
West_Med 18.83 Pct
West_Asian 7.93 Pct
East_Med 9.20 Pct
Red_Sea 1.69 Pct
South_Asian 1.76 Pct
East_Asian 1.53 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.65 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
K15
Population
North_Sea 22.81 Pct
Atlantic 15.96 Pct
Baltic 17.92 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.83 Pct
West_Med 14.48 Pct
West_Asian 6.95 Pct
East_Med 5.90 Pct
Red_Sea 1.44 Pct
South_Asian 1.59 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.85 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.28 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Adamastor
01-28-2020, 02:17 PM
Probably Serb. Surname Tojaga.
Population
North_Atlantic 29.12 Pct
Baltic 29.29 Pct
West_Med 18.83 Pct
West_Asian 7.93 Pct
East_Med 9.20 Pct
Red_Sea 1.69 Pct
South_Asian 1.76 Pct
East_Asian 1.53 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.65 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
K15
Population
North_Sea 22.81 Pct
Atlantic 15.96 Pct
Baltic 17.92 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.83 Pct
West_Med 14.48 Pct
West_Asian 6.95 Pct
East_Med 5.90 Pct
Red_Sea 1.44 Pct
South_Asian 1.59 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.85 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.28 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Interesting, it seems East Med of South Slavs is quite low. Many seem to have more West Med than East Med or a proportion in similar amounts, also a lot of North Atlantic, Atlantic and North Sea.
It kinda conffirms the fact that Illyrians and other native Northwest Balkanites were more Iberian/North Italian-like than Greek-like. People have been speculating a Northeast Euro + Greek type of admixture in South Slavs for a long time, but it's most certainly wrong.
Insuperable
01-28-2020, 02:20 PM
Says Croatian. I don't know where from. Probably Herzegovina or something
K13
Population
North_Atlantic 27.89 Pct
Baltic 29.48 Pct
West_Med 16.13 Pct
West_Asian 7.71 Pct
East_Med 16.87 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.65 Pct
Amerindian 0.83 Pct
Oceanian 0.36 Pct
Northeast_African 0.07 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
K15
Population
North_Sea 21.37 Pct
Atlantic 16.09 Pct
Baltic 17.94 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.77 Pct
West_Med 11.64 Pct
West_Asian 7.82 Pct
East_Med 12.98 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.07 Pct
Amerindian 0.32 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Insuperable
01-28-2020, 02:34 PM
Doesn't say what she is. Seems to be Croat from Livno or Duvno, but can't be sure.
K13
North_Atlantic 28.71 Pct
Baltic 25.86 Pct
West_Med 19.85 Pct
West_Asian 8.25 Pct
East_Med 14.80 Pct
Red_Sea 0.53 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 1.65 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.33 Pct
K15
North_Sea 18.31 Pct
Atlantic 18.61 Pct
Baltic 14.85 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.45 Pct
West_Med 15.71 Pct
West_Asian 9.06 Pct
East_Med 10.26 Pct
Red_Sea 0.40 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 1.19 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.14 Pct
Ljubic
01-28-2020, 02:40 PM
All these Croats are well below average in their Baltic score. I know below 30% is more the exeption and not the rule but i also think the 36% the Eurogenes average has is not a good average as well. I rarely ever see Croats with 37% on Gedmatch and more often than not they are between 32-35%.
vbnetkhio
01-28-2020, 02:59 PM
Interesting, it seems East Med of South Slavs is quite low. Many seem to have more West Med than East Med or a proportion in similar amounts, also a lot of North Atlantic, Atlantic and North Sea.
It kinda conffirms the fact that Illyrians and other native Northwest Balkanites were more Iberian/North Italian-like than Greek-like. People have been speculating a Northeast Euro + Greek type of admixture in South Slavs for a long time, but it's most certainly wrong.
these are the Montenegrin and Serb averages:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?313828-Serbian-Autosomal-DNA&p=6473624&viewfull=1#post6473624
Bulgaria Iron age also had a 50/50 West med/East med ratio, like we do today:
1 West_Med 31.11
2 East_Med 30.15
3 North_Atlantic 22.77
4 West_Asian 8.14
5 Baltic 4.36
6 Red_Sea 3.47
but before the arrival of Slavs somebody increased our North_Atlantic (Celts and Germans) and West Asian (Romans?)
vbnetkhio
01-28-2020, 03:09 PM
All these Croats are well below average in their Baltic score. I know below 30% is more the exeption and not the rule but i also think the 36% the Eurogenes average has is not a good average as well. I rarely ever see Croats with 37% on Gedmatch and more often than not they are between 32-35%.
out of ~30 Croat academic samples only 3 are 27-29% Baltic, and all others are 30+.
idk how representative that is.
Pribislav
01-28-2020, 03:31 PM
Probably Serb. Surname Tojaga.
Population
North_Atlantic 29.12 Pct
Baltic 29.29 Pct
West_Med 18.83 Pct
West_Asian 7.93 Pct
East_Med 9.20 Pct
Red_Sea 1.69 Pct
South_Asian 1.76 Pct
East_Asian 1.53 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.65 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
K15
Population
North_Sea 22.81 Pct
Atlantic 15.96 Pct
Baltic 17.92 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.83 Pct
West_Med 14.48 Pct
West_Asian 6.95 Pct
East_Med 5.90 Pct
Red_Sea 1.44 Pct
South_Asian 1.59 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.85 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.28 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Tojaga is Serbian surname from Lika, mostly from Kom and Zrmanja in southern Lika.
Ljubic
01-28-2020, 03:42 PM
out of ~30 Croat academic samples only 3 are 27-29% Baltic, and all others are 30+.
idk how representative that is.
How is the average of these 30 samples if I may ask? Those may not be many samples like the Serb ones but it could be interesting still.
vbnetkhio
01-28-2020, 03:55 PM
How is the average of these 30 samples if I may ask? Those may not be many samples like the Serb ones but it could be interesting still.
here:
_North_AtlanticBalticWest_MedWest_AsianEast_MedRed _SeaSouth_AsianEast_AsianSiberianAmerindianOceania nNortheast_AfricanSub-Saharan
Zagreb(13)27.2136.1114.547.949.441.450.970.300.330 .800.400.320.19
Herzegovina(5)25.9933.1915.008.5313.271.110.950.05 0.720.740.450.000.00
Bosnia(6)26.8532.1615.727.3013.751.740.730.210.560 .280.520.100.09
Split(10)25.9531.3916.338.2313.731.640.390.350.520 .560.560.220.13
All(34)26.6033.6015.348.0012.031.510.760.260.480.6 30.480.200.13
but i'm not sure is the Zagreb result indeed from those 13 Zagreb samples. it probably is. i'll check these days
but before the arrival of Slavs somebody increased our North_Atlantic (Celts and Germans) and West Asian (Romans?)
maybe your answer is here
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?312133-Serbian-and-Belarusian-MyTrueAncestry-deep-dive
Ljubic
01-28-2020, 04:04 PM
here:
_North_AtlanticBalticWest_MedWest_AsianEast_MedRed _SeaSouth_AsianEast_AsianSiberianAmerindianOceania nNortheast_AfricanSub-Saharan
Zagreb(13)27.2136.1114.547.949.441.450.970.300.330 .800.400.320.19
Herzegovina(5)25.9933.1915.008.5313.271.110.950.05 0.720.740.450.000.00
Bosnia(6)26.8532.1615.727.3013.751.740.730.210.560 .280.520.100.09
Split(10)25.9531.3916.338.2313.731.640.390.350.520 .560.560.220.13
All(34)26.6033.6015.348.0012.031.510.760.260.480.6 30.480.200.13
but i'm not sure is the Zagreb result indeed from those 13 Zagreb samples. it probably is. i'll check these days
Thank you very much!
vbnetkhio
01-28-2020, 04:28 PM
maybe your answer is here
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?312133-Serbian-and-Belarusian-MyTrueAncestry-deep-dive
these samples don't have that much west asian.
maybe those late Roman samples with middle eastern admixture have more of it.
_North_AtlanticBalticWest_MedWest_AsianEast_MedRed _SeaSouth_AsianEast_AsianSiberianAmerindianOceania nNortheast_AfricanSub_Saharan
IA_Ardea_R85011.626.2121.3216.8632.999.3400.690.66 000.310
IA_Ardea_R85135.0114.1233.471.2616.1400000000
IA_Boville_Ernica_R102137.078.8131.952.0818.940.63 00000.5200
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R101636.747.1933.37120.5100001 .18000
IA_Civitavecchia_R47333.9112.0831.640.3318.523.330 00.180000
IA_Civitavecchia_R47436.9812.0825.225.3216.981.620 00.780.4400.440.14
IA_Civitavecchia_R47521.897.0633.22025.636.6000003 .921.68
IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R101535.888.0233 .68019.971.7200.1100.62000
IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R43540.4614.5927.652.5912 .11.380.2400.290.64000.07
IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R43719.085.1527.3615.0228.4 34.5600.400000
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R129.0113.6821.759 .7519.743.46001.240.940.4300
33-34% Baltic and 26-27% NA for Croats sounds realistic to me, why not. They are not Macedonians after all.
Adamastor
01-28-2020, 05:50 PM
these are the Montenegrin and Serb averages:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?313828-Serbian-Autosomal-DNA&p=6473624&viewfull=1#post6473624
Bulgaria Iron age also had a 50/50 West med/East med ratio, like we do today:
1 West_Med 31.11
2 East_Med 30.15
3 North_Atlantic 22.77
4 West_Asian 8.14
5 Baltic 4.36
6 Red_Sea 3.47
but before the arrival of Slavs somebody increased our North_Atlantic (Celts and Germans) and West Asian (Romans?)
What I find curious is that the Illyrian samples that were posted before had a ''North Italian'' genetic profile. With around 30-35% North Atlantic, ~ 20% West Med and 15% East Med. There was some with even 40% North Atlantic iirc, what is near the average for NE Iberians like Catalonians and Aragonese.
Insuperable
01-28-2020, 07:30 PM
Dalmatian Croat
K13
North_Atlantic 30.73 Pct
Baltic 29.02 Pct
West_Med 17.30 Pct
West_Asian 7.46 Pct
East_Med 11.33 Pct
Red_Sea 1.87 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.95 Pct
Amerindian 0.44 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.89 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
K15
North_Sea 18.12 Pct
Atlantic 20.39 Pct
Baltic 19.10 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.08 Pct
West_Med 13.54 Pct
West_Asian 7.11 Pct
East_Med 7.97 Pct
Red_Sea 1.69 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.13 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.87 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
Tojaga is Serbian surname from Lika, mostly from Kom and Zrmanja in southern Lika.
"Dobices tojaga ako nisi dobar" = what my great grandmother would always tell me when I was a kid. Brings back funny memories. I was so bad :lol:
SharpFork
03-08-2020, 06:12 PM
Florin Curta was dismissed as unreliable scholar by many other serious acedemics.
Btw, if Avars from Szoad cluster with Belarusians and have 0% mongoloid, what are they but Slavic ? It is well known some Slavic allies of Avars assimilated with them. Or Belarusians are Avars ??!
:picard2::rolleyes:
I don't remember anyone labeling some Magyar chief as Slavic, they certanly were not.
Do you have any links to scholars criticizing Florin Curta? His whole thesis is dumb but I have not been able to find much specifically rebuking him.
Do you have any links to scholars criticizing Florin Curta? His whole thesis is dumb but I have not been able to find much specifically rebuking him.
He was a Vlach nationalist denying medieval Slavic migrations. What else do you need?
Two Croats who share family name with infamous NDH dictator.
1 Baltic 33.41
2 North_Atlantic 25.48
3 West_Med 15.96
4 East_Med 12.61
5 West_Asian 10.01
6 Siberian 1.31
7 Amerindian 0.61
8 South_Asian 0.36
9 Red_Sea 0.15
10 Sub-Saharan 0.11
1 Baltic 31.59
2 North_Atlantic 21.26
3 West_Med 20.51
4 East_Med 13.66
5 West_Asian 9.55
6 East_Asian 1.71
7 Red_Sea 1.07
8 Amerindian 0.33
9 Northeast_African 0.33
SharpFork
03-25-2020, 08:21 AM
He was a Vlach nationalist denying medieval Slavic migrations. What else do you need?
Does his work have explicit Romanian nationalists points? He seems just a retarded "pots not people" historian, plus he doesn't even seem white to begin with.(as an half-Indian I'm whiter than him anyway...)
Croat, surname typical for Bosnia and Lika
1 Baltic 30.52
2 North_Atlantic 26.54
3 West_Med 17.64
4 East_Med 11.43
5 West_Asian 8.63
6 Red_Sea 1.28
7 South_Asian 1.27
8 Siberian 1.2
9 Oceanian 0.99
10 Sub-Saharan 0.51
Does his work have explicit Romanian nationalists points? He seems just a retarded "pots not people" historian, plus he doesn't even seem white to begin with.(as an half-Indian I'm whiter than him anyway...)
He seemed to see Vlachs everywhere, and claimed South Slavs are Vlachs too. I think he shouldn't be taken seriously.
Ljubic
03-25-2020, 08:27 AM
Two Croats who share family name with infamous NDH dictator.
1 Baltic 33.41
2 North_Atlantic 25.48
3 West_Med 15.96
4 East_Med 12.61
5 West_Asian 10.01
6 Siberian 1.31
7 Amerindian 0.61
8 South_Asian 0.36
9 Red_Sea 0.15
10 Sub-Saharan 0.11
1 Baltic 31.59
2 North_Atlantic 21.26
3 West_Med 20.51
4 East_Med 13.66
5 West_Asian 9.55
6 East_Asian 1.71
7 Red_Sea 1.07
8 Amerindian 0.33
9 Northeast_African 0.33
Are they from Bosnia? As far as I know, Ante Pavelic himself has roots from NW-Croatia
This one seems to be from central Croatia (Karlovac area), but matches mostly BiH Croats and Dalmatians
1 Baltic 32.02
2 North_Atlantic 24.66
3 West_Med 16.95
4 East_Med 15.93
5 West_Asian 7.88
6 Oceanian 0.9
7 Amerindian 0.76
8 Red_Sea 0.57
9 Siberian 0.34
10 Sub-Saharan 0.01
Are they from Bosnia? As far as I know, Ante Pavelic himself has roots from NW-Croatia
Not sure, they seem to be unmixed American-Croats (Mary and Mark Pavelić). Isn't Pavelić Bunjevac surname?
Serbian surname (typical for Serbs from Croatia, specifically Lika), but very typical Croatian first name. This one could be mixed.
1 Baltic 29.49
2 North_Atlantic 23.12
3 West_Med 20.25
4 East_Med 12.9
5 West_Asian 8.03
6 Red_Sea 4.19
7 South_Asian 1.3
8 Oceanian 0.29
9 Amerindian 0.21
10 Siberian 0.12
11 East_Asian 0.11
Croat with Bunjevac surname (it exists in Dalmatian hinterland, western Herzegovina, and area above Novi Vinodolski where Bunjevci settled)
1 Baltic 33.33
2 North_Atlantic 28.54
3 West_Med 15.5
4 East_Med 12.59
5 West_Asian 4.98
6 Red_Sea 2.52
7 Amerindian 1.51
8 Oceanian 0.89
9 Siberian 0.14
Starčević, another one who shares surname with famous Croatian nationalist. I think this one may have been already posted.
1 Baltic 28.26
2 North_Atlantic 25.43
3 West_Med 18.03
4 East_Med 14.9
5 West_Asian 8.72
6 Red_Sea 1.91
7 South_Asian 1.02
8 Siberian 0.91
9 Amerindian 0.73
10 Oceanian 0.07
11 East_Asian 0.02
Dalmatian Croat surname
1 Baltic 27.35
2 North_Atlantic 26.63
3 West_Med 18.84
4 East_Med 13.5
5 West_Asian 8.21
6 Red_Sea 2.5
7 South_Asian 1.48
8 Siberian 1.1
9 Amerindian 0.31
10 Sub-Saharan 0.07
Bosniak sounding first name and extremely Croatian surname (Horvat). Actually, name seems to be of Germanic origin and used in both NW Croatia and Bosnia. So this one is possibly full Croat.
1 Baltic 32.45
2 North_Atlantic 26.68
3 West_Med 18.01
4 East_Med 15.48
5 West_Asian 5.94
6 East_Asian 1.44
Croat with native surname of Gorski Kotar
1 Baltic 30.22
2 North_Atlantic 29.77
3 West_Med 19.97
4 East_Med 8.95
5 West_Asian 6.88
6 Red_Sea 1.78
7 South_Asian 1.36
8 Siberian 0.42
9 East_Asian 0.37
10 Northeast_African 0.28
Croat with surname from Dalmatian Island of Korčula
1 Baltic 31.65
2 North_Atlantic 21.53
3 West_Med 17.62
4 East_Med 14.86
5 West_Asian 11.77
6 Red_Sea 1.24
7 East_Asian 0.58
8 Siberian 0.54
9 South_Asian 0.2
Croatian surname from Dalmatian hinterland
1 Baltic 32.42
2 North_Atlantic 30.78
3 West_Med 12.81
4 East_Med 11.74
5 West_Asian 6.85
6 Red_Sea 1.59
7 South_Asian 1.56
8 Siberian 0.88
9 Amerindian 0.75
10 Oceanian 0.59
11 East_Asian 0.02
Serb (surname Stevanović, peaks in Bosnia)
1 Baltic 27.17
2 North_Atlantic 23.43
3 West_Med 18.55
4 East_Med 17.14
5 West_Asian 10.19
6 Red_Sea 2.68
7 East_Asian 0.45
8 Siberian 0.39
Croatian surname with peak in Bosnia
1 Baltic 33.26
2 North_Atlantic 30.45
3 West_Med 12.58
4 East_Med 10.76
5 West_Asian 7.92
6 Red_Sea 1.42
7 Amerindian 1.2
8 South_Asian 1.15
9 East_Asian 0.94
10 Sub-Saharan 0.3
11 Oceanian 0.03
Croatian female with name and surname that is common in both Lika and Dalmatia.
1 Baltic 31.25
2 North_Atlantic 30.58
3 West_Med 16.08
4 East_Med 8.65
5 West_Asian 8.6
6 Red_Sea 2.1
7 Siberian 1.04
8 Amerindian 0.61
9 South_Asian 0.48
10 Northeast_African 0.41
11 Sub-Saharan 0.19
Two Croats who share family name with infamous NDH dictator.
1 Baltic 33.41
2 North_Atlantic 25.48
3 West_Med 15.96
4 East_Med 12.61
5 West_Asian 10.01
6 Siberian 1.31
7 Amerindian 0.61
8 South_Asian 0.36
9 Red_Sea 0.15
10 Sub-Saharan 0.11
1 Baltic 31.59
2 North_Atlantic 21.26
3 West_Med 20.51
4 East_Med 13.66
5 West_Asian 9.55
6 East_Asian 1.71
7 Red_Sea 1.07
8 Amerindian 0.33
9 Northeast_African 0.33
Found another Pavelić
1 Baltic 32.26
2 North_Atlantic 27.22
3 West_Med 15.62
4 East_Med 14.93
5 West_Asian 4.91
6 Red_Sea 2.8
7 Siberian 1.02
8 Amerindian 0.65
9 South_Asian 0.38
10 Oceanian 0.21
Croat, surname peaks in coastal town Senj. Probably mixed with western European, his brother scores 36% North Atlantic. But interstingly both have full Croatian names (Andrija & Ivan) and surname.
1 North_Atlantic 32.51
2 Baltic 32.47
3 West_Med 13.4
4 West_Asian 10.34
5 East_Med 8.12
6 Amerindian 2.1
7 Oceanian 0.96
8 East_Asian 0.09
1 North_Atlantic 36.38
2 Baltic 34.54
3 West_Med 12.92
4 East_Med 6.64
5 West_Asian 4.89
6 South_Asian 1.25
7 Amerindian 1.2
8 Oceanian 1.11
9 Siberian 0.7
10 East_Asian 0.23
11 Sub-Saharan 0.14
Bosnian Serb (surname exist among all 3 nations in BiH, but first name is only used by Serbs)
1 Baltic 34.2
2 North_Atlantic 26.25
3 West_Med 14.24
4 East_Med 13.57
5 West_Asian 6.93
6 Red_Sea 2.28
7 East_Asian 0.85
8 Siberian 0.68
9 Oceanian 0.53
10 Amerindian 0.47
Most likely a Serb from Croatia (Višnić)
1 Baltic 34.6
2 North_Atlantic 29.21
3 East_Med 13.23
4 West_Med 12.52
5 West_Asian 4.91
6 Red_Sea 3.63
7 Oceanian 0.7
8 East_Asian 0.62
9 Amerindian 0.55
10 Siberian 0.02
Ethnic Hungarian
1 Baltic 34.63
2 North_Atlantic 26.02
3 West_Med 13.38
4 East_Med 12.97
5 West_Asian 8.5
6 Amerindian 1.68
7 Siberian 1.03
8 East_Asian 0.79
9 Oceanian 0.51
10 South_Asian 0.49
Croat from Ogulin
1 Baltic 35.4
2 North_Atlantic 29.41
3 West_Med 13.13
4 East_Med 10.78
5 West_Asian 7.07
6 Siberian 2.2
7 Red_Sea 0.94
8 Sub-Saharan 0.62
9 Amerindian 0.32
10 East_Asian 0.1
11 Oceanian 0.04
Serb, surname peaks in Bosnia
1 Baltic 28.02
2 North_Atlantic 24.92
3 West_Med 15.95
4 East_Med 14.18
5 West_Asian 12.8
6 Red_Sea 1.51
7 Amerindian 1.33
8 Northeast_African 1.04
9 Oceanian 0.25
Croat with noble surname from Lika
1 Baltic 27.92
2 North_Atlantic 25.66
3 West_Med 16.85
4 East_Med 14.55
5 West_Asian 10.36
6 Red_Sea 2.74
7 East_Asian 0.93
8 South_Asian 0.84
9 Amerindian 0.15
Croat, surname from Dalmatian Island Lastovo!
1 Baltic 31.33
2 North_Atlantic 26.23
3 East_Med 15.46
4 West_Med 14.71
5 West_Asian 7.5
6 Red_Sea 2.31
7 South_Asian 1.65
8 Amerindian 0.8
17571imre
03-25-2020, 10:09 AM
Ethnic Hungarian
1 Baltic 34.63
2 North_Atlantic 26.02
3 West_Med 13.38
4 East_Med 12.97
5 West_Asian 8.5
6 Amerindian 1.68
7 Siberian 1.03
8 East_Asian 0.79
9 Oceanian 0.51
10 South_Asian 0.49
intresting results.
using Ion Basescul calculator.
Target: hungarian
Distance: 3.6146% / 3.61462117
69.4 Early_Slav_average
29.6 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
1.0 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman
Croat, Dalmatia
1 Baltic 33.49
2 North_Atlantic 28.27
3 West_Med 14.4
4 East_Med 10.58
5 West_Asian 8.5
6 Red_Sea 2.14
7 East_Asian 0.89
8 Oceanian 0.57
9 Siberian 0.46
10 South_Asian 0.36
11 Amerindian 0.36
intresting results.
using Ion Basescul calculator.
Target: hungarian
Distance: 3.6146% / 3.61462117
69.4 Early_Slav_average
29.6 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
1.0 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman
Yes, plots like a south-west Slav rather than typical Hungarian. He lacks German input. He is match of one Serb I ran (also of one Croat), so possible south slavic ancestors somewhere down the line. But name and surname are completely Hungarian.
Serb, most likely from Slavonia
1 Baltic 30.81
2 North_Atlantic 21.21
3 West_Med 19.99
4 East_Med 16.85
5 West_Asian 6.81
6 Red_Sea 1.58
7 Amerindian 0.96
8 Oceanian 0.78
9 East_Asian 0.49
10 Siberian 0.32
11 South_Asian 0.2
Croat with surname which peaks in coastal Dalmatia
1 Baltic 34.54
2 North_Atlantic 24.55
3 West_Med 16.52
4 East_Med 12.49
5 West_Asian 6.89
6 Red_Sea 2.19
7 South_Asian 0.75
8 Amerindian 0.67
9 Sub-Saharan 0.62
10 East_Asian 0.47
11 Oceanian 0.3
Some guy named Ante (Dalmatian Croat name), no other info available.
1 Baltic 28.32
2 North_Atlantic 27.87
3 West_Med 15.2
4 East_Med 12.77
5 West_Asian 9.22
6 South_Asian 3.48
7 Red_Sea 3.02
8 Sub-Saharan 0.12
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 10:22 AM
Serbian woman from Banija.
K13 96470
K15 96471
K12b 96472
Again only name is visible and it is Duje, highly specific for Split, capital of Dalmatia. This person must be Croat from that area with possible Venetian ancestry.
1 North_Atlantic 28.46
2 Baltic 25.97
3 West_Med 18.09
4 East_Med 13.43
5 West_Asian 8.98
6 South_Asian 1.65
7 Amerindian 1.39
8 Red_Sea 0.85
9 East_Asian 0.63
10 Oceanian 0.44
11 Northeast_African 0.1
Mixed mode: 60.9% Croatian + 39.1% North_Italian @ 2.37
Croat from western Herzegovina, he is my father's Y-dna match (I-PH908)
1 Baltic 32.87
2 North_Atlantic 28.21
3 West_Med 16.07
4 East_Med 14.24
5 West_Asian 3.95
6 Siberian 1.22
7 Amerindian 1.16
8 South_Asian 1.15
9 Red_Sea 0.64
10 Sub-Saharan 0.37
11 Northeast_African 0.11
Dalmatian Croat
1 Baltic 28.36
2 North_Atlantic 24.99
3 East_Med 18.73
4 West_Med 14.39
5 West_Asian 9.1
6 Red_Sea 1.72
7 Oceanian 1.04
8 Siberian 0.85
9 Sub-Saharan 0.81
Serb, most likely from Serbia proper.
1 Baltic 29.57
2 North_Atlantic 25.34
3 West_Med 19.13
4 East_Med 14.22
5 West_Asian 8.06
6 Red_Sea 1.31
7 Amerindian 1.12
8 Siberian 0.71
9 East_Asian 0.46
10 Northeast_African 0.07
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 11:25 AM
Serbian girl from Belgrade. I don't know from where her ancestors are, in Belgrade vast majority of Serbs are descendants of settlers from various regions of former Yugoslavia in the last 100 years.
K13 96473
K15 96474
K12b 96475
Croat, either north Croat or from Bosnia.
1 North_Atlantic 32.96
2 Baltic 28.08
3 West_Med 14.07
4 East_Med 13.44
5 West_Asian 10.2
6 Oceanian 0.62
7 Northeast_African 0.37
8 Amerindian 0.27
Pubiczar
03-25-2020, 11:28 AM
A Serb? with the name Bratislav and surname ending with ic, a match of a Macedonian from the north of the country.
Has a lot of matches from north Macedonia but also a lot of Albanians.
ydna: J2b2
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24
2 East_Med 23
3 North_Atlantic 19.38
4 West_Med 18.62
5 West_Asian 10.55
6 Red_Sea 2.11
7 Oceanian 1.07
8 Siberian 1.07
9 Amerindian 0.19
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 3.71
2 Romanian 6.4
3 Greek_Thessaly 7.82
4 Serbian 10.09
5 Central_Greek 14.58
6 Moldavian 14.82
7 Tuscan 15.18
8 Italian_Abruzzo 15.19
9 East_Sicilian 15.83
10 West_Sicilian 16.19
11 Ashkenazi 16.69
12 North_Italian 17.05
13 Croatian 17.8
14 Hungarian 18.21
15 South_Italian 18.94
16 Austrian 21.21
17 East_German 22.99
18 Portuguese 23.49
19 Algerian_Jewish 23.72
20 Italian_Jewish 23.86
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.3% Bulgarian + 12.7% Ashkenazi @ 2.84
2 79% Greek_Thessaly + 21% Southwest_Russian @ 2.85
3 93.9% Bulgarian + 6.1% Samaritan @ 2.93
4 95.4% Bulgarian + 4.6% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.96
5 91.3% Bulgarian + 8.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.96
6 94.2% Bulgarian + 5.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.96
7 81.6% Greek_Thessaly + 18.4% Erzya @ 2.98
8 93% Bulgarian + 7% Cyprian @ 3
9 79.4% Greek_Thessaly + 20.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.03
10 94.3% Bulgarian + 5.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.05
11 91.8% Bulgarian + 8.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.05
12 92.9% Bulgarian + 7.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.07
13 83% Greek_Thessaly + 17% Lithuanian @ 3.08
14 93.1% Bulgarian + 6.9% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.09
15 80.7% Greek_Thessaly + 19.3% Estonian_Polish @ 3.1
16 94.5% Bulgarian + 5.5% Palestinian @ 3.12
17 81.1% Greek_Thessaly + 18.9% Belorussian @ 3.13
18 94.9% Bulgarian + 5.1% Egyptian @ 3.15
19 78.5% Bulgarian + 21.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.15
20 94.7% Bulgarian + 5.3% Jordanian @ 3.18
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 20.09
2 North_Sea 19.09
3 West_Med 15.4
4 Baltic 13.97
5 West_Asian 10.32
6 Eastern_Euro 10.03
7 Atlantic 7.88
8 Red_Sea 2
9 Oceanian 0.93
10 Siberian 0.29
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 8.08
2 Romanian 9.68
3 Bulgarian 9.74
4 Serbian 11.42
5 Greek 12.08
6 Ashkenazi 14.11
7 Central_Greek 14.62
8 Moldavian 14.69
9 Tuscan 15.15
10 Italian_Abruzzo 15.3
11 East_Sicilian 15.67
12 Hungarian 16.82
13 West_Sicilian 17.07
14 North_Italian 17.4
15 Croatian 17.78
16 South_Italian 18.13
17 Austrian 19.01
18 Italian_Jewish 21.2
19 East_German 21.36
20 Spanish_Galicia 21.71
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.6% Greek_Thessaly + 17.4% East_Finnish @ 5.55
2 79.1% Greek_Thessaly + 20.9% Ukrainian @ 5.58
3 83.2% Greek_Thessaly + 16.8% Erzya @ 5.59
4 83.4% Greek_Thessaly + 16.6% Estonian @ 5.59
5 82.3% Greek_Thessaly + 17.7% Finnish @ 5.63
6 78.7% Greek_Thessaly + 21.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.7
7 83.1% Greek_Thessaly + 16.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.76
8 70.5% Greek_Thessaly + 29.5% Moldavian @ 5.78
9 82.6% Greek_Thessaly + 17.4% Southwest_Russian @ 5.95
10 80.6% Greek_Thessaly + 19.4% South_Polish @ 5.99
11 74.4% Greek_Thessaly + 25.6% Hungarian @ 6.01
12 82.4% Greek_Thessaly + 17.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6.02
13 83.8% Greek_Thessaly + 16.2% North_Swedish @ 6.03
14 85.2% Greek_Thessaly + 14.8% Lithuanian @ 6.06
15 82.7% Greek_Thessaly + 17.3% Polish @ 6.1
16 83.6% Greek_Thessaly + 16.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 6.12
17 84.3% Greek_Thessaly + 15.7% Belorussian @ 6.18
18 84.5% Greek_Thessaly + 15.5% Estonian_Polish @ 6.24
19 83.9% Greek_Thessaly + 16.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 6.36
20 87.9% Greek_Thessaly + 12.1% Chuvash @ 6.36
MDLP K23b Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.48
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 26.1
3 European_Early_Farmers 20.09
4 Near_East 5.72
5 North_African 3.37
6 South_Central_Asian 2.75
7 South_Indian 1.23
8 Australoid 0.92
9 Amerindian 0.72
10 Arctic 0.61
11 Ancestral_Altaic 0.56
12 Paleo_Siberian 0.4
13 Tungus-Altaic 0.35
14 East_Siberian 0.33
15 Melano_Polynesian 0.24
16 Austronesian 0.14
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian ( ) 3.05
2 Macedonian ( ) 3.05
3 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 4.96
4 Montenegrian ( ) 5.14
5 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 5.2
6 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 5.68
7 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 6.14
8 Greek_Northwest ( ) 6.17
9 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 6.39
10 Kosovar ( ) 6.81
11 Ashkenazi ( ) 6.93
12 Gagauz ( ) 7.17
13 Serb_BH ( ) 7.38
14 Romanian ( ) 7.42
15 Croat ( ) 7.61
16 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 7.78
17 Serb_Serbia ( ) 7.91
18 Central_Greek ( ) 7.91
19 Bosnian ( ) 8.06
20 Romanian_Jew ( ) 8.17
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.7% Ashkenazi ( ) + 48.3% Serb_BH ( ) @ 1.33
2 71.4% Macedonian ( ) + 28.6% Ashkenazi ( ) @ 1.39
3 52.4% Ashkenazi ( ) + 47.6% Croat ( ) @ 1.42
4 54.5% Italian_South ( ) + 45.5% Slovenian ( ) @ 1.44
5 59.3% Serb_BH ( ) + 40.7% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 1.49
6 62% Montenegrian ( ) + 38% Romanian_Jew ( ) @ 1.5
7 76.5% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 23.5% Czech ( ) @ 1.5
8 62.6% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 37.4% Bosnian ( ) @ 1.5
9 80% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 20% Sorb ( ) @ 1.51
10 70.8% Montenegrian ( ) + 29.2% Italian_South ( ) @ 1.51
11 86% Gagauz ( ) + 14% Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) @ 1.52
12 57.9% Montenegrian ( ) + 42.1% Ashkenazi ( ) @ 1.52
13 55.4% Italian_South ( ) + 44.6% Hungarian ( ) @ 1.53
14 72% Bulgarian ( ) + 28% Ashkenazi ( ) @ 1.53
15 80% Bulgarian ( ) + 20% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 1.53
16 53.9% Ashkenazi ( ) + 46.1% Bosnian ( ) @ 1.55
17 83.8% Gagauz ( ) + 16.2% Portugese ( ) @ 1.56
18 60.5% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 39.5% Serb_BH ( ) @ 1.56
19 61.3% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 38.7% Croat ( ) @ 1.56
20 77.8% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 22.2% Slovak ( ) @ 1.57
puntDNAL K15 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE_European 37.26
2 Mediterranean 35
3 Caucasian 18.16
4 SW_Asian 6.24
5 Horn_Of_Africa 1.41
6 Oceanian 0.6
7 Siberian 0.52
8 S_Indian 0.49
9 Amerindian 0.2
10 E_Asian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Montenegrin 2.53
2 Bulgarian 3.23
3 Romanian 3.89
4 Italian 4.35
5 Macedonian 5.12
6 Greek_Thessaly 6.33
7 Albanian 6.89
8 Bosnian 8.05
9 Tuscan 8.47
10 Greek_Central 8.81
11 Serbian 11.33
12 Spaniard 12.79
13 Portuguese 12.79
14 French 13.89
15 Brazilian 14.21
16 South_German 16.24
17 Ashkenazy_Jew 16.66
18 Croatian 16.82
19 Utahn_White 17.01
20 Sicilian 17.94
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.6% Bulgarian + 33.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 0.71
2 57.5% Macedonian + 42.5% Albanian @ 0.77
3 73.7% Bulgarian + 26.3% Greek_Central @ 0.77
4 61.3% Serbian + 38.7% Sicilian @ 0.8
5 62.5% Macedonian + 37.5% Tuscan @ 0.81
6 78% Macedonian + 22% Sicilian @ 0.82
7 62% English + 38% Cypriot @ 0.83
8 59.9% Scottish + 40.1% Cypriot @ 0.84
9 62.3% Romanian + 37.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 0.84
10 89.7% Romanian + 10.3% Cypriot @ 0.88
11 80.4% Tuscan + 19.6% Belarusian @ 0.94
12 71.1% Albanian + 28.9% Croatian @ 0.94
13 69.9% Romanian + 30.1% Greek_Central @ 0.94
14 93.9% Montenegrin + 6.1% Kumyk @ 0.96
15 94.3% Montenegrin + 5.7% North_Ossetian @ 0.98
16 80.1% Tuscan + 19.9% Russian @ 0.98
17 93.9% Montenegrin + 6.1% Balkar @ 0.99
18 62.3% Albanian + 37.7% Serbian @ 0.99
19 91.5% Bulgarian + 8.5% Cypriot @ 1
20 93.5% Montenegrin + 6.5% Chechen @ 1
Croat, surname from Senj
1 Baltic 32.65
2 North_Atlantic 27.66
3 East_Med 14.78
4 West_Med 14.72
5 West_Asian 8.09
6 Red_Sea 1.22
7 Siberian 0.5
8 East_Asian 0.19
9 South_Asian 0.18
A Serb? with the name Bratislav and surname ending with ic, a match of a Macedonian from the north of the country.
Yes, based on name and surname it's a Serb.
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 11:35 AM
Serbian girl from Belgrade. I don't know from where her ancestors are, in Belgrade vast majority of Serbs are descendants of settlers from various regions of former Yugoslavia in the last 100 years.
K13 96473
K15 96474
K12b 96475
She is cousin of writer Miloš Živković https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miloš_Živković_(writer)
Here is Miloš Živković.
K13 96476
K15 96477
K12b 96478
Croat from Lika
1 Baltic 35.28
2 North_Atlantic 28.04
3 West_Med 17.23
4 East_Med 10.97
5 West_Asian 5.66
6 Oceanian 1.03
7 East_Asian 0.84
8 South_Asian 0.57
9 Red_Sea 0.37
She is cousin of writer Miloš Živković https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miloš_Živković_(writer)
Here is Miloš Živković.
K13 96476
K15 96477
K12b 96478
Interestingly, surname Živković is very common among BiH Croats too. I tough it was only Serbian surname until recently. In BiH so many surnames exist among all ethnicities.
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 11:42 AM
Interestingly, surname Živković is very common among BiH Croats too. I tough it was only Serbian surname until recently. In BiH so many surnames exist among all ethnicities.
Among Serbs is quite common and widespread in many regions. It's impossible to know further origin by paternal line of that writer only according to his surname. He probably had grandparents from different regiona as most of people from Belgrade.
Serb from Lika (Končar)
1 Baltic 30.9
2 North_Atlantic 26.06
3 East_Med 15.92
4 West_Med 14.97
5 West_Asian 7.88
6 South_Asian 2
7 Red_Sea 1.94
8 Sub-Saharan 0.32
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 11:45 AM
Serb from Lika (Končar)
1 Baltic 30.9
2 North_Atlantic 26.06
3 East_Med 15.92
4 West_Med 14.97
5 West_Asian 7.88
6 South_Asian 2
7 Red_Sea 1.94
8 Sub-Saharan 0.32
Can you post his Mixed Mode, at least 1-5?
Croat from Lika, surname Milković. Very interesting, my good friend has same surname and he is from Lika.
1 Baltic 36.21
2 North_Atlantic 23.3
3 West_Med 14.27
4 East_Med 12.02
5 West_Asian 10.54
6 East_Asian 1.17
7 Red_Sea 1.04
8 Amerindian 0.87
9 Siberian 0.32
10 South_Asian 0.26
This person is very Slavic, but my friend with same surname is very Balkan looking.
Can you post his Mixed Mode, at least 1-5?
Can't find it at the moment, as I am browsing trough lot of matches, but if I do I will post it.
Bosniak female married for a Serb (born Spahić, married Jarić)
1 Baltic 30.33
2 North_Atlantic 26.38
3 East_Med 16.48
4 West_Med 11.76
5 West_Asian 11.67
6 East_Asian 1.49
7 Red_Sea 1.15
8 South_Asian 0.75
Likota with a funny surname (Vukovojac, LOL!). I don't know is it Croat or Serb, but it sound Serbian-like to me. Apparently more common in Croats, but exist in both.
His name is Marinko, so probably he is Croat.
1 Baltic 29.99
2 North_Atlantic 24.43
3 West_Med 16.31
4 East_Med 14.96
5 West_Asian 10.32
6 Red_Sea 1.78
7 Siberian 0.95
8 South_Asian 0.68
9 Amerindian 0.33
10 Oceanian 0.23
11 East_Asian
Croat with apparently Janjevo surname from Kosovo.
1 Baltic 29.48
2 North_Atlantic 25.51
3 East_Med 15.53
4 West_Med 14.67
5 West_Asian 11.81
6 Red_Sea 1.13
7 Oceanian 0.67
8 Amerindian 0.58
9 South_Asian 0.33
10 East_Asian 0.3
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 12:00 PM
Likota with a funny surname (Vukovojac, LOL!). I don't know is it Croat or Serb, but it sound Serbian-like to me. Apparently more common in Croats, but exist in both.
1 Baltic 29.99
2 North_Atlantic 24.43
3 West_Med 16.31
4 East_Med 14.96
5 West_Asian 10.32
6 Red_Sea 1.78
7 Siberian 0.95
8 South_Asian 0.68
9 Amerindian 0.33
10 Oceanian 0.23
11 East_Asian
Vukovojac Serbs from Lika are J-Y22063.
According to Acta Croatica same surname also exist among Lika Croatians https://actacroatica.com/hr/surname/Vukovojac/
Y dna of Končar Serbs from Lika is I1 btw.
Is this Došen you guys posted?
1 Baltic 35.11
2 North_Atlantic 26.71
3 East_Med 13.05
4 West_Med 12.65
5 West_Asian 7.9
6 Red_Sea 1.54
7 Amerindian 1.12
8 Sub-Saharan 0.9
9 East_Asian 0.41
10 South_Asian 0.4
11 Oceanian 0.2
I see his name is Anthony, that's Catholic name. So if it's same person you talked about, how can it be a Serb? He seems to be from Australia.
Serb female, most likely from Eastern Bosnia/Podrinje.
1 Baltic 34.53
2 North_Atlantic 21.56
3 West_Med 20.29
4 East_Med 13.63
5 West_Asian 8.12
6 South_Asian 1.09
7 Siberian 0.65
8 East_Asian 0.13
Her mixed mode for Pribislav:
1 70.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 29.2% Sardinian @ 4.59
2 71.4% Southwest_Russian + 28.6% Sardinian @ 5.06
3 91.3% Moldavian + 8.7% Sardinian @ 5.33
4 59.3% Ukrainian + 40.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.56
5 55.9% Bulgarian + 44.1% Ukrainian @ 5.72
6 67% Ukrainian + 33% Central_Greek @ 5.87
7 70.4% Ukrainian + 29.6% South_Italian @ 5.92
8 87.8% Croatian + 12.2% Sardinian @ 5.95
9 73.4% Ukrainian + 26.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 6.01
10 68.2% Ukrainian + 31.8% East_Sicilian @ 6.05
11 65% Bulgarian + 35% Estonian_Polish @ 6.07
12 70.3% Bulgarian + 29.7% Lithuanian @ 6.08
13 79.6% Moldavian + 20.4% Bulgarian @ 6.12
14 88.2% Moldavian + 11.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.14
15 54.5% Bulgarian + 45.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6.15
16 64.1% Croatian + 35.9% Bulgarian @ 6.16
17 55.8% Greek_Thessaly + 44.2% Lithuanian @ 6.16
18 93.6% Moldavian + 6.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 6.18
19 61.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 38.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.21
20 77.3% Croatian + 22.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.21
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 12:08 PM
Is this Došen you guys posted?
1 Baltic 35.11
2 North_Atlantic 26.71
3 East_Med 13.05
4 West_Med 12.65
5 West_Asian 7.9
6 Red_Sea 1.54
7 Amerindian 1.12
8 Sub-Saharan 0.9
9 East_Asian 0.41
10 South_Asian 0.4
11 Oceanian 0.2
I see his name is Anthony, that's Catholic name. So if it's same person you talked about, how can it be a Serb? He seems to be from Australia.
No, that is other man.
This is Došen from Banija.
1 Baltic 34.93
2 North_Atlantic 27.7
3 West_Med 16.91
4 East_Med 12.16
5 West_Asian 5.45
6 Siberian 2.08
7 Red_Sea 0.39
8 Amerindian 0.27
9 Oceanian 0.11
This Došen is Serbian refugee from Banija in 1995, he live in diaspora. I am in contact with him on Gmail.
No, that is other man.
This is Došen from Banija.
1 Baltic 34.93
2 North_Atlantic 27.7
3 West_Med 16.91
4 East_Med 12.16
5 West_Asian 5.45
6 Siberian 2.08
7 Red_Sea 0.39
8 Amerindian 0.27
9 Oceanian 0.11
This Došen is Serbian refugee from Banija in 1995, he live in diaspora. I am in contact with him on Gmail.
Okay, sorry. This one I posted should be a Croat. Your guy is Serb, but both of them score pretty similar (quite high Baltic)
Croat, from Zagreb most likely
1 Baltic 30.45
2 North_Atlantic 24.66
3 West_Med 16.01
4 East_Med 15.76
5 West_Asian 8.91
6 South_Asian 2.53
7 Red_Sea 0.56
8 Siberian 0.52
9 Oceanian 0.49
10 Amerindian 0.11
Croat, surname peaks in Lika
1 Baltic 27.12
2 North_Atlantic 27.06
3 East_Med 19.79
4 West_Med 15.75
5 West_Asian 6.5
6 Red_Sea 1.47
7 Amerindian 1.3
8 Oceanian 0.48
9 East_Asian 0.3
10 Siberian 0.23
Croatian surname from Pelješac peninsula, southern Dalmatia
1 Baltic 28.55
2 North_Atlantic 24.98
3 West_Med 19.83
4 East_Med 16.12
5 West_Asian 8.43
6 Red_Sea 1.16
7 Amerindian 0.52
8 Oceanian 0.42
Croat, surname is from Vrlika, Dalmatian hinterland
1 Baltic 28.19
2 North_Atlantic 26.85
3 West_Med 18.41
4 East_Med 17.87
5 West_Asian 4.77
6 Red_Sea 1.25
7 Amerindian 0.93
8 East_Asian 0.82
9 Siberian 0.61
10 Northeast_African 0.3
Serb, eastern Bosnia (same surname as woman I posted)
1 Baltic 31.83
2 North_Atlantic 23.19
3 West_Med 17.44
4 East_Med 17
5 West_Asian 9.2
6 Siberian 0.71
7 East_Asian 0.35
8 Oceanian 0.14
9 South_Asian 0.13
Croat, surname has roots from coast of central Dalmatia
1 Baltic 36.14
2 North_Atlantic 25.18
3 West_Med 16.55
4 East_Med 12.61
5 West_Asian 5.84
6 East_Asian 1.17
7 Red_Sea 1.1
8 Oceanian 1.09
9 Amerindian 0.32
Croat, surname peaks on Krk Island, north Adriatic region
1 Baltic 30.83
2 North_Atlantic 26.6
3 West_Med 18.29
4 West_Asian 10.34
5 East_Med 9.35
6 Red_Sea 1.63
7 Amerindian 1.19
8 Oceanian 0.81
9 Siberian 0.49
10 Sub-Saharan 0.47
Another east Bosnian Serb with same surname
1 Baltic 31.64
2 North_Atlantic 21.57
3 West_Med 18.25
4 East_Med 16.09
5 West_Asian 8.06
6 South_Asian 2.8
7 Siberian 0.81
8 Amerindian 0.53
9 Oceanian 0.14
10 East_Asian 0.11
Ljubic
03-25-2020, 12:45 PM
Thanks for posting all these Croats from Gedmatch. Its visible that there are pockets of the Croatian population which obviously arent as slavicized as others. The Zagreb one from the last page must be a migrant no?
One more Croatian surname from Krk Island.
1 Baltic 33.4
2 North_Atlantic 26.12
3 East_Med 14.24
4 West_Med 13.97
5 West_Asian 5.75
6 Red_Sea 3.13
7 Amerindian 0.91
8 Oceanian 0.65
9 East_Asian 0.63
10 Siberian 0.57
11 South_Asian 0.46
12 Sub-Saharan 0.17
Thanks for posting all these Croats from Gedmatch. Its visible that there are pockets of the Croatian population which obviously arent as slavicized as others. The Zagreb one from the last page must be a migrant no?
His surname is native to Zagreb region, even first name is common there, same as Ph2ter who is from nearby area. But genetically he seems southern influenced.
Honestly, this is much more random than I tought. You have very Slavic and very Balkan shifted individuals in almost every region, hard to make any conclusion except that we faced lot of internal migrations due to turbulent history.
Too bad northern regions like Međimurje, Podravina or Baranja are terra incognita when it comes to autosomal DNA, I actually never saw samples from there.
Croat whose surname is listed as native to Lika and predating Ottoman era. It doesn't sound very Slavic, but his score is.
1 Baltic 36.5
2 North_Atlantic 30.51
3 West_Med 13.79
4 West_Asian 10.37
5 East_Med 6.23
6 South_Asian 1.12
7 Siberian 0.81
8 Oceanian 0.45
9 Amerindian 0.11
10 Red_Sea 0.1
Serb, surname peaks in Slavonia
1 Baltic 29.45
2 North_Atlantic 23.01
3 West_Med 18.67
4 East_Med 15.04
5 West_Asian 10.26
6 Red_Sea 1.51
7 Amerindian 0.74
8 Siberian 0.53
9 East_Asian 0.47
10 Oceanian 0.32
NW Croat
1 North_Atlantic 32.82
2 Baltic 30.84
3 West_Med 13.25
4 East_Med 11.79
5 West_Asian 8.16
6 Amerindian 1.9
7 Oceanian 1.07
8 Northeast_African 0.17
Serb with notorious surname (Đujić), so should be from Dalmatia
1 Baltic 31.11
2 North_Atlantic 21.48
3 East_Med 16.68
4 West_Med 15.78
5 West_Asian 10.6
6 South_Asian 1.43
7 Red_Sea 1.39
8 Amerindian 0.67
9 Northeast_African 0.4
10 East_Asian 0.28
11 Siberian 0.17
@Feiichy, would you say the old Davidski average with 36% Baltic and 27% NA is unrepresentative for Croatia as a whole? It's very Northern and for it to be an AVERAGE most samples used must have been in that range or even higher.
@Feiichy, would you say the old Davidski average with 36% Baltic and 27% NA is unrepresentative for Croatia as a whole? It's very Northern and for it to an AVERAGE most samples used must have been in that range or even higher.
Yes, it's representative only for capital Zagreb where mix with Central Europeans is common and most Croats are from NW anyway. It's also Germanic influenced, average Croats don't have this.
Baltic average should be 30-32 in my view, but people in that range are actually not most common I think, rather there are many in 33-35 range and in 27-29 so it's kind of a midpoint.
My father who is full Croat by blood is 32% Baltic, and he should be very representative because he has ancestry both from southern (mainly) and northern (minority) regions.
He is almost 29% North Atlantic though, that is above Croatian average.
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 01:08 PM
Serb with notorious surname (Đujić), so should be from Dalmatia
1 Baltic 31.11
2 North_Atlantic 21.48
3 East_Med 16.68
4 West_Med 15.78
5 West_Asian 10.6
6 South_Asian 1.43
7 Red_Sea 1.39
8 Amerindian 0.67
9 Northeast_African 0.4
10 East_Asian 0.28
11 Siberian 0.17
They are R1a-M458>L1029.
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 01:17 PM
Serb from Lika, surname Koščica.
K13 96481
K15 96482
K12b 96483
Yes, it's representative only for capital Zagreb where mix with Central Europeans is common and most Croats are from NW anyway. It's also Germanic influenced, average Croats don't have this.
Baltic average should be 30-32 in my view, but people in that range are actually not most common I think, rather there are many in 33-35 range and in 27-29 so it's kind of a midpoint.
My father who is full Croat by blood is 32% Baltic, and he should be very representative because he has ancestry both from southern (mainly) and northern (minority) regions.
He is almost 29% North Atlantic though, that is above Croatian average.
Hrvoje is 32% B and 30% NA if I remember correctly.
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 01:32 PM
Serbian celebrity Aleksandar Bilanović https://youtu.be/CIks9QQ_Khg?t=2833
He is from Belgrade. His paternal line is from Duvno area, and he is partly of Montenegrin origin.
96484
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 01:36 PM
Croat, surname peaks in Lika
1 Baltic 27.12
2 North_Atlantic 27.06
3 East_Med 19.79
4 West_Med 15.75
5 West_Asian 6.5
6 Red_Sea 1.47
7 Amerindian 1.3
8 Oceanian 0.48
9 East_Asian 0.3
10 Siberian 0.23
Does he carry bunjevačko surname?
Hrvoje is 32% B and 30% NA if I remember correctly.
He is very close to my family on K15 (especially to me).
Serbian celebrity Aleksandar Bilanović https://youtu.be/CIks9QQ_Khg?t=2833
He is from Belgrade. His paternal line is from Duvno area, and he is partly of Montenegrin origin.
96484
I remember posting him some time ago, he is either my match or one of my parents match, can't remember anymore.
CommonSense
03-25-2020, 01:43 PM
Likota with a funny surname (Vukovojac, LOL!). I don't know is it Croat or Serb, but it sound Serbian-like to me. Apparently more common in Croats, but exist in both.
His name is Marinko, so probably he is Croat.
1 Baltic 29.99
2 North_Atlantic 24.43
3 West_Med 16.31
4 East_Med 14.96
5 West_Asian 10.32
6 Red_Sea 1.78
7 Siberian 0.95
8 South_Asian 0.68
9 Amerindian 0.33
10 Oceanian 0.23
11 East_Asian
The guy is almost certainly a Serb. That email has several uploads, all of them Serbs from Lika, some I've already posted.
CommonSense
03-25-2020, 01:47 PM
Croat whose surname is listed as native to Lika and predating Ottoman era. It doesn't sound very Slavic, but his score is.
1 Baltic 36.5
2 North_Atlantic 30.51
3 West_Med 13.79
4 West_Asian 10.37
5 East_Med 6.23
6 South_Asian 1.12
7 Siberian 0.81
8 Oceanian 0.45
9 Amerindian 0.11
10 Red_Sea 0.1
This guy could be half-Polish or something. Either way, not someone who's fully Croatian from Lika.
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 01:49 PM
I remember posting him some time ago, he is either my match or one of my parents match, can't remember anymore.
Serbs Bilanovići from Mandino Selo near Duvno are tested as R1a, they celebrate Saint Nicholas day.
Croatians Bilanovići are from Kotor Varoš, and surrounding of Omiš.
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 01:58 PM
Female which carry noble Serbian surname from White Carniola.
Does he carry bunjevačko surname?
I am not sure, too many samples to remember all of their surnnames.
This guy could be half-Polish or something. Either way, not someone who's fully Croatian from Lika.
I found other kit with same surname which is 39% Baltic and plots almost like southern Pole. They seem to be mixed. However, there are other Lika Croats with similar results I posted today (Došen and Milković)
I think this person is a Serb, bur surname sounds very Macedonian (Djordevski). His first name sound Serb, there are some Serbs in Croatia with such surname.
1 Baltic 27.4
2 North_Atlantic 25.26
3 West_Med 17.88
4 East_Med 16.9
5 West_Asian 7.44
6 Red_Sea 2.05
7 Siberian 1.9
8 Amerindian 1.08
9 Oceanian 0.09
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 06:22 PM
I think this person is a Serb, bur surname sounds very Macedonian (Djordevski). His first name sound Serb, there are some Serbs in Croatia with such surname.
1 Baltic 27.4
2 North_Atlantic 25.26
3 West_Med 17.88
4 East_Med 16.9
5 West_Asian 7.44
6 Red_Sea 2.05
7 Siberian 1.9
8 Amerindian 1.08
9 Oceanian 0.09
That is clear Macedonian surname.
Serbs from Croatoa don't have surnames which ended on ski.
I think this person is a Serb, bur surname sounds very Macedonian (Djordevski). His first name sound Serb, there are some Serbs in Croatia with such surname.
1 Baltic 27.4
2 North_Atlantic 25.26
3 West_Med 17.88
4 East_Med 16.9
5 West_Asian 7.44
6 Red_Sea 2.05
7 Siberian 1.9
8 Amerindian 1.08
9 Oceanian 0.09
I love the Mongoloid in Yugoslavs! xD
At least we're not alone with that :lol:
Cumansky
03-25-2020, 06:24 PM
I love the Mongoloid in Yugoslavs! xD
At least we're not alone with that :lol:
Shared Khazar DNA, no?
I love the Mongoloid in Yugoslavs! xD
At least we're not alone with that :lol:
So many kits score 1-2%, it's much more common that I tought.
That is clear Macedonian surname.
Serbs from Croatoa don't have surnames which ended on ski.
It's actually most common in Croatia, he has Serb name though.
1 Serbian 3.67
2 Romanian 4.63
3 Bulgarian 6.59
4 Moldavian 8.65
1 54.8% Tuscan + 45.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.29
2 54.1% Ukrainian + 45.9% West_Sicilian @ 2.38
3 60.1% Tuscan + 39.9% Erzya @ 2.54
4 64.2% Greek_Thessaly + 35.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.78
5 66.5% Greek_Thessaly + 33.5% Estonian @ 2.83
6 67.3% Croatian + 32.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.86
7 55.4% Tuscan + 44.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.89
8 52.5% West_Sicilian + 47.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.9
9 56.6% West_Sicilian + 43.4% Estonian @ 2.91
10 58.7% Tuscan + 41.3% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.93
11 50.5% Tuscan + 49.5% Ukrainian @ 2.97
12 57.2% Tuscan + 42.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.98
13 55.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 44.3% West_Sicilian @ 3.04
14 74.6% Croatian + 25.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.04
15 95% Serbian + 5% Sardinian @ 3.06
16 50.2% Polish + 49.8% West_Sicilian @ 3.06
17 54.9% South_Polish + 45.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.09
18 57.5% West_Sicilian + 42.5% Lithuanian @ 3.1
19 55.6% Greek_Thessaly + 44.4% South_Polish @ 3.12
20 81.3% Bulgarian + 18.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.12
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 06:29 PM
It's actually most common in Croatia, he has Serb name though.
1 Serbian 3.67
2 Romanian 4.63
3 Bulgarian 6.59
4 Moldavian 8.65
1 54.8% Tuscan + 45.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.29
2 54.1% Ukrainian + 45.9% West_Sicilian @ 2.38
3 60.1% Tuscan + 39.9% Erzya @ 2.54
4 64.2% Greek_Thessaly + 35.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.78
5 66.5% Greek_Thessaly + 33.5% Estonian @ 2.83
6 67.3% Croatian + 32.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.86
7 55.4% Tuscan + 44.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.89
8 52.5% West_Sicilian + 47.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.9
9 56.6% West_Sicilian + 43.4% Estonian @ 2.91
10 58.7% Tuscan + 41.3% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.93
11 50.5% Tuscan + 49.5% Ukrainian @ 2.97
12 57.2% Tuscan + 42.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.98
13 55.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 44.3% West_Sicilian @ 3.04
14 74.6% Croatian + 25.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.04
15 95% Serbian + 5% Sardinian @ 3.06
16 50.2% Polish + 49.8% West_Sicilian @ 3.06
17 54.9% South_Polish + 45.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.09
18 57.5% West_Sicilian + 42.5% Lithuanian @ 3.1
19 55.6% Greek_Thessaly + 44.4% South_Polish @ 3.12
20 81.3% Bulgarian + 18.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.12
Maybe Macedonian-Serb mix with Macedonian paternal line.
People in Croatia who carry surnames on ski can be only those who have paternal line from Vojvodina or North Macedonia, or very few Croatians.
I love the Mongoloid in Yugoslavs! xD
At least we're not alone with that :lol:
Kissed by Great Turan.
Czech, just for comparison
1 Baltic 37.97
2 North_Atlantic 30.97
3 West_Med 13.85
4 East_Med 7.72
5 West_Asian 4.63
6 Red_Sea 1.73
7 Siberian 1.71
8 Northeast_African 0.83
9 East_Asian 0.5
10 Oceanian 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
1 South_Polish 5.23
2 Croatian 5.31
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.08
4 Ukrainian 6.66
5 Hungarian 6.82
6 East_German 8.11
7 Polish 8.4
8 Moldavian 8.78
9 Austrian 9.5
10 Southwest_Russian 10.98
11 Russian_Smolensk 11.37
12 Estonian_Polish 11.65
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.73
14 Belorussian 12
15 Southwest_Finnish 12.47
16 Serbian 12.95
17 Kargopol_Russian 14.53
18 North_Swedish 14.56
19 Estonian 14.82
20 Finnish 14.94
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
1 72.3% Belorussian + 27.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.69
2 72.9% Estonian_Polish + 27.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.72
3 74.9% Southwest_Russian + 25.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.8
4 71.9% Estonian_Polish + 28.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.8
5 72.4% Russian_Smolensk + 27.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.86
6 72.2% Southwest_Russian + 27.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.88
7 70.2% Estonian_Polish + 29.8% Portuguese @ 1.89
8 72.9% Southwest_Russian + 27.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.89
9 71.6% Estonian_Polish + 28.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.94
10 72.3% Southwest_Russian + 27.7% Southwest_French @ 1.97
11 70.8% Russian_Smolensk + 29.2% Portuguese @ 1.99
12 71% Belorussian + 29% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2
13 73.5% Russian_Smolensk + 26.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2
14 73.7% Southwest_Russian + 26.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.01
15 71% Estonian_Polish + 29% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.02
16 72.5% Estonian_Polish + 27.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.04
17 70.4% Estonian_Polish + 29.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.08
18 72.4% Russian_Smolensk + 27.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.1
19 71.5% Russian_Smolensk + 28.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.12
20 62.7% Lithuanian + 37.3% North_Italian @ 2.13
Croat, Herzegovina
1 Baltic 33.31
2 North_Atlantic 24.25
3 West_Med 15.08
4 East_Med 12.72
5 West_Asian 10.85
6 Red_Sea 1.77
7 South_Asian 1.02
8 Amerindian 0.47
9 Oceanian 0.44
10 Sub-Saharan 0.09
Czech, just for comparison
1 Baltic 37.97
2 North_Atlantic 30.97
3 West_Med 13.85
4 East_Med 7.72
5 West_Asian 4.63
6 Red_Sea 1.73
7 Siberian 1.71
8 Northeast_African 0.83
9 East_Asian 0.5
10 Oceanian 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
1 South_Polish 5.23
2 Croatian 5.31
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.08
4 Ukrainian 6.66
5 Hungarian 6.82
6 East_German 8.11
7 Polish 8.4
8 Moldavian 8.78
9 Austrian 9.5
10 Southwest_Russian 10.98
11 Russian_Smolensk 11.37
12 Estonian_Polish 11.65
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.73
14 Belorussian 12
15 Southwest_Finnish 12.47
16 Serbian 12.95
17 Kargopol_Russian 14.53
18 North_Swedish 14.56
19 Estonian 14.82
20 Finnish 14.94
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
1 72.3% Belorussian + 27.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.69
2 72.9% Estonian_Polish + 27.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.72
3 74.9% Southwest_Russian + 25.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.8
4 71.9% Estonian_Polish + 28.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.8
5 72.4% Russian_Smolensk + 27.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.86
6 72.2% Southwest_Russian + 27.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.88
7 70.2% Estonian_Polish + 29.8% Portuguese @ 1.89
8 72.9% Southwest_Russian + 27.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.89
9 71.6% Estonian_Polish + 28.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.94
10 72.3% Southwest_Russian + 27.7% Southwest_French @ 1.97
11 70.8% Russian_Smolensk + 29.2% Portuguese @ 1.99
12 71% Belorussian + 29% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2
13 73.5% Russian_Smolensk + 26.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2
14 73.7% Southwest_Russian + 26.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.01
15 71% Estonian_Polish + 29% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.02
16 72.5% Estonian_Polish + 27.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.04
17 70.4% Estonian_Polish + 29.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.08
18 72.4% Russian_Smolensk + 27.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.1
19 71.5% Russian_Smolensk + 28.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.12
20 62.7% Lithuanian + 37.3% North_Italian @ 2.13
Lel, even the Czech is 2.2% mong in that run.
Lel, even the Czech is 2.2% mong in that run.
Probably Moravian or Silesian? Closer to Ukrainians than to east Germans, he's quite Slavic.
Cumansky
03-25-2020, 06:40 PM
Gedmatch for idiots #facts
Serb from Lika based on surname
1 Baltic 35.59
2 North_Atlantic 24.13
3 West_Med 17.27
4 East_Med 14.34
5 West_Asian 5.7
6 Oceanian 1.48
7 South_Asian 0.74
8 Red_Sea 0.37
9 Northeast_African 0.19
10 East_Asian 0.19
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 06:41 PM
Lel, even the Czech is 2.2% mong in that run.
This Serb is 1.9% "mongoloid."
1 Baltic 28.21
2 North_Atlantic 27.86
3 West_Med 17.62
4 East_Med 13.86
5 West_Asian 9.64
6 Siberian 1.57
7 Northeast_African 0.47
8 Red_Sea 0.44
9 East_Asian 0.32
Croat female, Dalmatia
1 Baltic 27.58
2 North_Atlantic 23.91
3 West_Med 18.77
4 East_Med 15.65
5 West_Asian 9.94
6 Red_Sea 2.35
7 Amerindian 1.42
8 Oceanian 0.27
9 East_Asian 0.11
Serb, Lika
1 Baltic 30.94
2 North_Atlantic 27.93
3 West_Med 14.15
4 East_Med 13.26
5 West_Asian 10.37
6 South_Asian 1.83
7 East_Asian 0.75
8 Oceanian 0.4
9 Amerindian 0.39
Serb (Grujic)
1 North_Atlantic 27.35
2 Baltic 26.03
3 West_Med 18.16
4 East_Med 17.9
5 West_Asian 9.59
6 Siberian 0.55
7 Amerindian 0.23
8 Oceanian 0.19
Croat, surname from coastal Dalmatia
1 Baltic 33.42
2 North_Atlantic 30.08
3 West_Med 13.7
4 East_Med 9.98
5 West_Asian 9.16
6 Oceanian 1.22
7 Siberian 1.17
8 Red_Sea 0.69
9 Northeast_African 0.6
Croat, Dalmatian Hinterland
1 Baltic 31.22
2 North_Atlantic 22.21
3 West_Med 17.61
4 East_Med 13.65
5 West_Asian 8.14
6 Red_Sea 4.06
7 Amerindian 1.43
8 South_Asian 1.36
9 Northeast_African 0.32
Bosniak
1 Baltic 31.38
2 North_Atlantic 30.11
3 West_Med 18.88
4 East_Med 9.85
5 West_Asian 8.59
6 Oceanian 0.44
7 East_Asian 0.43
8 Amerindian 0.26
9 Red_Sea 0.06
Serb
1 Baltic 29.96
2 North_Atlantic 27.08
3 West_Med 15.69
4 East_Med 14.86
5 West_Asian 8.63
6 Red_Sea 2.07
7 Siberian 1.12
8 Amerindian 0.59
Probably Moravian or Silesian? Closer to Ukrainians than to east Germans, he's quite Slavic.
Yeah, he is also relatively Southern. Gets 1/4 Spanish and 3/4 East Slavic.
Croatian surname, and he is possibly Croat minority from Hungary because he's very northern. I checked his matches, mostly Croats but also Hungarians and some western Euros.
1 Baltic 37.44
2 North_Atlantic 30.79
3 West_Med 12.26
4 East_Med 11.34
5 West_Asian 4.05
6 South_Asian 1.09
7 East_Asian 0.75
8 Red_Sea 0.72
9 Amerindian 0.62
10 Sub-Saharan 0.38
11 Northeast_African 0.33
12 Oceanian 0.23
Hungarian
1 Baltic 30.79
2 North_Atlantic 28.94
3 West_Med 14.02
4 West_Asian 11.79
5 East_Med 10.9
6 Siberian 2
7 Amerindian 0.69
8 South_Asian 0.24
9 East_Asian 0.24
10 Oceanian 0.2
11 Red_Sea 0.2
Another Hungarian
1 North_Atlantic 34.14
2 Baltic 29.7
3 West_Asian 11.67
4 West_Med 11.59
5 East_Med 7.12
6 Red_Sea 1.69
7 East_Asian 1.54
8 Sub-Saharan 0.68
9 South_Asian 0.63
10 Siberian 0.59
11 Oceanian 0.4
12 Amerindian 0.25
Serb from Dalmatia, haplogroup is R1a
1 Baltic 28.11
2 North_Atlantic 23.84
3 West_Med 19.33
4 East_Med 16.69
5 West_Asian 9.41
6 Siberian 1.04
7 Amerindian 0.65
8 Oceanian 0.47
9 Red_Sea 0.3
10 East_Asian 0.16
Croat (n=24)
Gedrosia 4,59
Siberian 0,41
Northwest_African 0,4
Southeast_Asian 0,31
Atlantic_Med 27,14
North_European 43,51
South_Asian 0,31
East_African 0,04
Southwest_Asian 4,04
East_Asian 0,11
Caucasus 19,1
Sub_Saharan 0,03
Bosnian (n=14)
Gedrosia 4,81
Siberian 0,53
Northwest_African 0,39
Southeast_Asian 0,12
Atlantic_Med 25,91
North_European 42,79
South_Asian 0,74
East_African 0,03
Southwest_Asian 4,67
East_Asian 0,07
Caucasus 19,92
Sub_Saharan 0,01
Croat with pretty similar results as Knez01, high Baltic and very low North Atlantic.
1 Baltic 36.32
2 North_Atlantic 19.92
3 West_Med 17.66
4 East_Med 12.83
5 West_Asian 7.35
6 Red_Sea 3.07
7 South_Asian 1.74
8 Siberian 1.08
9 Amerindian 0.02
17571imre
03-25-2020, 08:27 PM
Hungarian
1 Baltic 30.79
2 North_Atlantic 28.94
3 West_Med 14.02
4 West_Asian 11.79
5 East_Med 10.9
6 Siberian 2
7 Amerindian 0.69
8 South_Asian 0.24
9 East_Asian 0.24
10 Oceanian 0.2
11 Red_Sea 0.2
Target: Hungarian
Distance: 3.6573% / 3.65734335
50.2 Early_Slav_average
28.8 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
13.6 Early_Germanic
7.4 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman
Another Hungarian
1 North_Atlantic 34.14
2 Baltic 29.7
3 West_Asian 11.67
4 West_Med 11.59
5 East_Med 7.12
6 Red_Sea 1.69
7 East_Asian 1.54
8 Sub-Saharan 0.68
9 South_Asian 0.63
10 Siberian 0.59
11 Oceanian 0.4
12 Amerindian 0.25
Target: Hungarian
Distance: 4.3395% / 4.33952778
39.8 Early_Slav_average
35.6 Early_Germanic
16.6 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
8.0 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman
Thanks for posting this! intresting to see what they get with Ion Basescul calculator.
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 08:51 PM
Croat with pretty similar results as Knez01, high Baltic and very low North Atlantic.
1 Baltic 36.32
2 North_Atlantic 19.92
3 West_Med 17.66
4 East_Med 12.83
5 West_Asian 7.35
6 Red_Sea 3.07
7 South_Asian 1.74
8 Siberian 1.08
9 Amerindian 0.02
Serb with similar result as knez01. He is from Banija and East Bosnia.
1 Baltic 35.05
2 West_Med 19.78
3 North_Atlantic 19.76
4 East_Med 14.69
5 West_Asian 8.15
6 Red_Sea 0.71
7 Amerindian
8 Siberian 0.7
9 Oceanian 0.24
Pribislav
03-25-2020, 08:52 PM
Croat with pretty similar results as Knez01, high Baltic and very low North Atlantic.
1 Baltic 36.32
2 North_Atlantic 19.92
3 West_Med 17.66
4 East_Med 12.83
5 West_Asian 7.35
6 Red_Sea 3.07
7 South_Asian 1.74
8 Siberian 1.08
9 Amerindian 0.02
Serb with similar result as knez01. He is from Banija and East Bosnia.
1 Baltic 35.05
2 West_Med 19.78
3 North_Atlantic 19.76
4 East_Med 14.69
5 West_Asian 8.15
6 Amerindian 1.02
7 Red_Sea 0.71
8 Siberian 0.6
9 Oceanian 0.24
knez01
03-25-2020, 09:01 PM
Serb with similar result as knez01. He is from Banija and East Bosnia.
1 Baltic 35.05
2 West_Med 19.78
3 North_Atlantic 19.76
4 East_Med 14.69
5 West_Asian 8.15
6 Amerindian 1.02
7 Red_Sea 0.71
8 Siberian 0.6
9 Oceanian 0.24
Nearly identical, pretty cool
Some guy with the last name M@rkovic I found. Maybe he has been posted before.
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.01
2 North_Atlantic 28.9
3 East_Med 15.32
4 West_Med 12.32
5 West_Asian 7
6 South_Asian 1.69
7 Red_Sea 1.4
8 Oceanian 0.35
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 5.7
2 Croatian 6.42
3 Serbian 6.75
4 Moldavian 6.89
5 Austrian 10.07
6 Romanian 10.61
7 East_German 10.83
8 South_Polish 11.43
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.84
10 Ukrainian 12.74
11 Bulgarian 12.83
12 Polish 15.11
13 Southwest_Russian 15.66
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.09
15 West_German 16.75
16 Russian_Smolensk 17.23
17 Estonian_Polish 17.62
18 Belorussian 17.8
19 South_Dutch 18.28
20 Southwest_Finnish 19.21
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.8% South_Polish + 23.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.76
2 72.8% South_Polish + 27.2% Ashkenazi @ 2.96
3 76.9% South_Polish + 23.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.02
4 74.7% Serbian + 25.3% Belorussian @ 3.25
5 60.3% Belorussian + 39.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.27
6 78.5% South_Polish + 21.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.28
7 58.1% Belorussian + 41.9% Tuscan @ 3.29
8 61.6% Belorussian + 38.4% West_Sicilian @ 3.41
9 77.2% South_Polish + 22.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.43
10 72% South_Polish + 28% West_Sicilian @ 3.5
11 78.7% South_Polish + 21.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.51
12 75% Serbian + 25% Estonian_Polish @ 3.55
13 79.6% Serbian + 20.4% Lithuanian @ 3.55
14 79% Serbian + 21% Estonian @ 3.63
15 71.4% Polish + 28.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.64
16 71% South_Polish + 29% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.65
17 65.6% Serbian + 34.4% South_Polish @ 3.65
18 74.7% South_Polish + 25.3% South_Italian @ 3.66
19 74.9% Serbian + 25.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.7
20 72.8% South_Polish + 27.2% East_Sicilian @ 3.73
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 22.41
2 Baltic 21.63
3 Atlantic 15.28
4 East_Med 13.04
5 Eastern_Euro 12.42
6 West_Med 8.33
7 West_Asian 4.44
8 Red_Sea 1.58
9 South_Asian 0.86
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 6.02
2 Moldavian 7.81
3 Croatian 7.84
4 Serbian 8.21
5 Austrian 9.14
6 Romanian 10.52
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.54
8 South_Polish 11.22
9 Ukrainian 11.45
10 East_German 11.49
11 Bulgarian 12.92
12 Polish 13.58
13 Russian_Smolensk 14.79
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.21
15 Southwest_Russian 15.34
16 Southwest_Finnish 15.65
17 Finnish 15.96
18 Belorussian 16.22
19 West_German 16.67
20 Estonian_Polish 16.82
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.5% Estonian + 47.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.77
2 63% Estonian + 37% South_Italian @ 3.85
3 65.4% Estonian + 34.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.9
4 60.8% Estonian + 39.2% East_Sicilian @ 4.13
5 60.1% Estonian + 39.9% Central_Greek @ 4.17
6 92.5% Hungarian + 7.5% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.24
7 66.4% Estonian + 33.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.29
8 91.4% Hungarian + 8.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.37
9 60.4% Estonian + 39.6% West_Sicilian @ 4.38
10 59.2% Estonian + 40.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.44
11 91.5% Hungarian + 8.5% Palestinian @ 4.55
12 92% Hungarian + 8% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.6
13 91.8% Hungarian + 8.2% Samaritan @ 4.62
14 66.3% Estonian + 33.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.63
15 91.6% Hungarian + 8.4% Jordanian @ 4.71
16 93.3% Hungarian + 6.7% Saudi @ 4.76
17 59.4% Estonian + 40.6% Ashkenazi @ 4.81
18 92.1% Hungarian + 7.9% Bedouin @ 4.84
19 92.5% Hungarian + 7.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.85
20 92.4% Hungarian + 7.6% Egyptian @ 4.86
# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 42.56
2 North_and_East_European 38.44
3 Caucaus_Parsia 8.31
4 Middle_East 8.24
5 Indian 2.11
6 Mesoamerican 0.25
7 Melanesian 0.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.08
2 Bosnian 3.35
3 Hungarian 3.82
4 Slovenian 4.98
5 Croatian_V 5.06
6 Austrian 5.6
7 German_V 6.25
8 Czech 6.84
9 Serbian 6.99
10 CEU_V 7.27
11 German 7.68
12 Slovakian 8.13
13 German-North 8.43
14 German-South 8.46
15 CEU 9.09
16 Montenegrin 9.61
17 Macedonian 9.61
18 Welsh 9.65
19 Norwegian_V 9.82
20 British 9.89
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.5% Croatian_V + 19.5% Italian-North @ 1.09
2 93.8% Slovenian + 6.2% Jew_Yemen @ 1.15
3 74.1% Swedish_V + 25.9% Jew_France @ 1.26
4 75.5% Croatian_V + 24.5% Italian_North @ 1.26
5 75.6% Swedish_V + 24.4% Sephardim @ 1.27
6 93.9% Slovenian + 6.1% Saudi @ 1.28
7 66.1% Croatian_V + 33.9% Montenegrin @ 1.29
8 74.5% Swedish_V + 25.5% Jew_Italia @ 1.31
9 82.4% Croatian_V + 17.6% Corsican @ 1.35
10 83.4% Croatian_V + 16.6% Kosovar @ 1.37
11 75.2% Croatian_V + 24.8% Romania @ 1.38
12 86.1% Czech + 13.9% Jew_Morocco @ 1.39
13 85.5% Czech + 14.5% Sephardim @ 1.41
14 58.5% Croatian_V + 41.5% Serbian @ 1.41
15 84.7% Czech + 15.3% Jew_Italia @ 1.42
16 84.5% Czech + 15.5% Jew_France @ 1.43
17 93.6% Slovenian + 6.4% Bedouin @ 1.45
18 86.4% Czech + 13.6% Jew_Tunisia @ 1.47
19 92.4% Slovenian + 7.6% Samaritian @ 1.5
20 85.9% Czech + 14.1% Jew_Algeria @ 1.51
Marković is very common surname among both Croats and Serbs, it's from Bosnia by origin.
Marković is very common surname among both Croats and Serbs, it's from Bosnia by origin. Based on his guy result, he should be a Croat.
One of his first matches is an apparent Russian titled "Alexander Nevsky" (that's a famous historical leader). Maybe it's his autosomal? Lol
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.86
2 North_Sea 21.35
3 Eastern_Euro 19.19
4 Atlantic 14.87
5 West_Asian 4.61
6 West_Med 3.56
7 Red_Sea 1.9
8 South_Asian 1.39
9 Amerindian 1.09
10 Siberian 1.01
11 East_Med 0.65
12 Oceanian 0.51
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 4.47
2 Russian_Smolensk 4.73
3 Belorussian 4.84
4 Polish 4.89
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.89
6 South_Polish 5.14
7 Ukrainian 5.29
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.39
9 Estonian_Polish 5.45
10 Estonian 6.36
11 Lithuanian 6.99
12 Kargopol_Russian 9.32
13 Croatian 11.21
14 Erzya 11.33
15 East_Finnish 11.55
16 Finnish 11.63
17 Moldavian 12.9
18 Southwest_Finnish 12.98
19 Hungarian 13.22
20 La_Brana-1 14.99
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 41% Estonian @ 2.91
2 58.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 41.6% Lithuanian @ 2.98
3 54.1% Belorussian + 45.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3
4 58.1% Southwest_Russian + 41.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.2
5 50.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 49.6% Estonian_Polish @ 3.26
6 60.8% South_Polish + 39.2% Lithuanian @ 3.26
7 64.6% Southwest_Russian + 35.4% Estonian @ 3.36
8 61.8% Russian_Smolensk + 38.2% Estonian @ 3.37
9 60.1% Ukrainian + 39.9% Lithuanian @ 3.38
10 54.1% Belorussian + 45.9% Ukrainian @ 3.39
11 88.7% Southwest_Russian + 11.3% Swedish @ 3.49
12 76.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 23.5% Finnish @ 3.5
13 67.9% Lithuanian + 32.1% Hungarian @ 3.52
14 59% Southwest_Russian + 41% Ukrainian @ 3.55
15 54.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 45.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.57
16 56.5% Russian_Smolensk + 43.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.57
17 56.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.4% Estonian @ 3.58
18 67.4% Lithuanian + 32.6% Moldavian @ 3.61
19 58.2% Southwest_Russian + 41.8% South_Polish @ 3.62
20 90.8% Southwest_Russian + 9.2% West_Norwegian @ 3.62
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 46.78
2 North_Atlantic 27.47
3 West_Med 7.23
4 East_Med 5.18
5 West_Asian 5.1
6 Red_Sea 2.36
7 Siberian 1.97
8 South_Asian 1.67
9 Amerindian 1.57
10 Oceanian 0.68
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian_Smolensk 3.15
2 Southwest_Russian 3.18
3 Estonian_Polish 3.26
4 Belorussian 3.71
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.37
6 Polish 4.87
7 Ukrainian 5.91
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.49
9 Kargopol_Russian 6.8
10 South_Polish 6.95
11 Lithuanian 7.56
12 Estonian 7.89
13 Erzya 9.18
14 Finnish 9.47
15 East_Finnish 9.84
16 Southwest_Finnish 11.5
17 Croatian 12.55
18 Moldavian 15.22
19 Hungarian 15.75
20 East_German 17.14
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97% Russian_Smolensk + 3% East_Greenlander @ 2.02
2 96.6% Russian_Smolensk + 3.4% West_Greenlander @ 2.03
3 95.2% Estonian_Polish + 4.8% Turkmen @ 2.03
4 94.2% Belorussian + 5.8% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.06
5 94.3% Belorussian + 5.7% Turkmen @ 2.08
6 93.5% Belorussian + 6.5% MA-1 @ 2.11
7 95.8% Estonian_Polish + 4.2% Iranian @ 2.11
8 93.9% Belorussian + 6.1% Tadjik @ 2.12
9 95% Estonian_Polish + 5% Tadjik @ 2.12
10 95.6% Estonian_Polish + 4.4% Azeri @ 2.14
11 95.9% Estonian_Polish + 4.1% Kurdish @ 2.17
12 97.3% Russian_Smolensk + 2.7% Chukchi @ 2.17
13 95.4% Estonian_Polish + 4.6% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.18
14 95.2% Estonian_Polish + 4.8% Tabassaran @ 2.22
15 93.7% Belorussian + 6.3% Nogay @ 2.22
16 95% Belorussian + 5% Iranian @ 2.23
17 95.7% Estonian_Polish + 4.3% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.24
18 97.8% Russian_Smolensk + 2.2% North_Amerindian @ 2.24
19 95.4% Estonian_Polish + 4.6% Lezgin @ 2.25
20 95.3% Estonian_Polish + 4.7% Kumyk @ 2.25
17571imre
03-28-2020, 05:01 PM
k13 from Hungarian
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 30.06
2 Baltic 28.16
3 West_Med 16.6
4 East_Med 14.46
5 West_Asian 3.73
6 South_Asian 1.88
7 Amerindian 1.61
8 Red_Sea 1.22
9 Oceanian 0.81
10 East_Asian 0.58
11 Sub-Saharan 0.56
12 Siberian 0.33
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 6.29
2 Hungarian 7.28
3 Austrian 9.33
4 Moldavian 9.49
5 Romanian 9.56
6 Croatian 9.63
7 East_German 10.54
8 Bulgarian 12.01
9 West_German 13.88
10 South_Dutch 15.24
11 French 15.29
12 South_Polish 15.39
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.57
14 Ukrainian 16.49
15 North_Italian 17.65
16 North_German 18.45
17 Portuguese 18.63
18 Spanish_Galicia 18.77
19 Polish 18.84
20 Greek_Thessaly 18.91
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.4% Tuscan + 44.6% Estonian @ 3.32
2 55.8% North_Italian + 44.2% Belorussian @ 3.32
3 55.4% North_Italian + 44.6% Estonian_Polish @ 3.39
4 60.6% North_Italian + 39.4% Lithuanian @ 3.64
5 53.8% North_Italian + 46.2% Southwest_Russian @ 3.78
6 55.2% North_Italian + 44.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.91
7 52% Polish + 48% Tuscan @ 3.96
8 51.8% Ukrainian + 48.2% North_Italian @ 4.03
9 59.1% North_Italian + 40.9% Estonian @ 4.07
10 57% Tuscan + 43% Lithuanian @ 4.09
11 51.7% North_Italian + 48.3% Polish @ 4.11
12 53.6% South_Polish + 46.4% North_Italian @ 4.11
13 87.1% Hungarian + 12.9% Sardinian @ 4.12
14 52.2% Tuscan + 47.8% Belorussian @ 4.13
15 57.4% South_Polish + 42.6% Tuscan @ 4.14
16 51.7% Tuscan + 48.3% Estonian_Polish @ 4.18
17 74.1% East_German + 25.9% Ashkenazi @ 4.33
18 70.3% Croatian + 29.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.36
19 54.6% North_Italian + 45.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.38
20 70.5% Croatian + 29.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.39
Bosniak woman
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.39
2 North_Atlantic 27.89
3 West_Med 17.44
4 West_Asian 11.85
5 East_Med 7.06
6 Siberian 1.43
7 Red_Sea 1.35
8 Amerindian 0.63
9 Northeast_African 0.62
10 South_Asian 0.34
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.64
2 Croatian 6.5
3 Hungarian 7.49
4 Serbian 8.75
5 Austrian 9.65
6 East_German 10.09
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.48
8 Romanian 11.67
9 South_Polish 12.3
10 Ukrainian 12.99
11 Bulgarian 14.04
12 Polish 15.54
13 West_German 16.3
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.95
15 Southwest_Russian 17.02
16 South_Dutch 17.45
17 Russian_Smolensk 18.09
18 North_German 18.94
19 Estonian_Polish 18.94
20 French 19.1
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.9% Moldavian + 10.1% French_Basque @ 3.84
2 85.9% Moldavian + 14.1% Southwest_English @ 4.13
3 86.1% Moldavian + 13.9% Irish @ 4.2
4 82% Moldavian + 18% South_Dutch @ 4.24
5 87% Moldavian + 13% Southwest_French @ 4.26
6 86.8% Moldavian + 13.2% West_Scottish @ 4.26
7 86.1% Moldavian + 13.9% Orcadian @ 4.32
8 81.5% Moldavian + 18.5% West_German @ 4.37
9 86% Moldavian + 14% Southeast_English @ 4.39
10 87.8% Moldavian + 12.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.4
11 84.1% Moldavian + 15.9% French @ 4.41
12 71.1% Moldavian + 28.9% Austrian @ 4.43
13 86.1% Moldavian + 13.9% North_Dutch @ 4.46
14 89.4% Moldavian + 10.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.51
15 88.6% Moldavian + 11.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.53
16 84.6% Moldavian + 15.4% North_German @ 4.54
17 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Norwegian @ 4.55
18 86.5% Moldavian + 13.5% Danish @ 4.56
19 73.1% Moldavian + 26.9% East_German @ 4.56
20 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.61
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 21.4
2 Baltic 20.9
3 Eastern_Euro 13.94
4 West_Med 13.87
5 North_Sea 13.01
6 West_Asian 11.31
7 East_Med 2.79
8 Red_Sea 1.2
9 Siberian 0.65
10 Northeast_African 0.49
11 Amerindian 0.32
12 South_Asian 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 8.49
2 Moldavian 9.99
3 Austrian 10.2
4 Serbian 11.75
5 Romanian 12.28
6 Hungarian 12.39
7 East_German 13.4
8 South_Polish 13.5
9 Bulgarian 13.56
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.26
11 Ukrainian 14.82
12 Russian_Smolensk 15.1
13 Polish 15.37
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.01
15 Southwest_Russian 16.74
16 Estonian_Polish 17.42
17 Belorussian 17.91
18 South_Dutch 19.23
19 Kargopol_Russian 19.6
20 Southwest_Finnish 19.64
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 7.09
2 86.4% Croatian + 13.6% French_Basque @ 7.13
3 81.1% Moldavian + 18.9% French_Basque @ 7.34
4 82.9% Croatian + 17.1% Southwest_French @ 7.41
5 83.9% Croatian + 16.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 7.44
6 84.8% Croatian + 15.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 7.52
7 60.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 39.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 7.53
8 91% Croatian + 9% Sardinian @ 7.53
9 85.8% Croatian + 14.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 7.57
10 85% Croatian + 15% Spanish_Cantabria @ 7.61
11 91% Croatian + 9% Balkar @ 7.62
12 91.7% Croatian + 8.3% North_Ossetian @ 7.64
13 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 7.66
14 92% Croatian + 8% Ossetian @ 7.68
15 91.1% Croatian + 8.9% Kabardin @ 7.68
16 58.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 41.3% Southwest_French @ 7.73
17 92% Croatian + 8% Adygei @ 7.76
18 93.5% Croatian + 6.5% Abhkasian @ 7.76
19 91.9% Croatian + 8.1% Chechen @ 7.81
20 62.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 37.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 7.83
# Population Percent
1 North_and_East_European 41.04
2 South_and_West_European 39.58
3 Caucaus_Parsia 10.54
4 Middle_East 7.44
5 North_Asian 1.02
6 Mesoamerican 0.38
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian_V 3.98
2 Croatian 4.83
3 Hungarian 5
4 Bosnian 5.26
5 Latvian_V 6.13
6 Slovenian 6.16
7 German 6.22
8 Czech 6.54
9 Slovakian 6.78
10 German_V 7.53
11 Austrian 7.56
12 Ukrainian-West 7.78
13 German-North 7.9
14 Ukrainian_V 8.33
15 CEU_V 8.54
16 Serbian 9.75
17 Norwegian_V 9.89
18 Ukrainian-Center 10.03
19 Sorb 10.43
20 Swedish 10.43
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.6% Ukrainian-West + 21.4% Greek_Center @ 0.95
2 55.7% Gagauz + 44.3% Lithuanian_V @ 0.97
3 65.7% Polish + 34.3% Greek_Center @ 0.97
4 71.5% Russian_South + 28.5% Italian-South @ 0.99
5 70.9% Ukrainian + 29.1% Greek_Center @ 1
6 75.2% Belarusian_V + 24.8% Greek_Cretan @ 1
7 62.6% Polish + 37.4% Greek_North @ 1.01
8 65.8% Polish_V + 34.2% Greek_North @ 1.02
9 79.2% Ukrainian-West + 20.8% Italian-Center @ 1.04
10 58.1% Ukrainian + 41.9% Gagauz @ 1.04
11 67.6% Ukrainian-West + 32.4% Gagauz @ 1.04
12 66.8% Polish + 33.2% Greek_East @ 1.05
13 79.4% Ukrainian-West + 20.6% Greek_East @ 1.05
14 52.1% Polish + 47.9% Gagauz @ 1.05
15 80.6% Ukrainian-West + 19.4% Italian-South @ 1.06
16 69.8% Polish_V + 30.2% Greek_East @ 1.07
17 76.3% Ukrainian-West + 23.7% Greek_North @ 1.08
18 89.2% Slovakian + 10.8% Jew-Iraqi @ 1.09
19 88.8% Slovakian + 11.2% Jew_Georgia @ 1.1
20 69.6% Russian_South + 30.4% Italian-Center @ 1.1
Population
Gedrosia 5.06 Pct
Siberian 1.26 Pct
Northwest_African 2.16 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 27.04 Pct
North_European 42.95 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.39 Pct
East_Asian 0.09 Pct
Caucasus 18.07 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 11:49 AM
Serb from Krajina.
Kit number: FT2178599
# Population percent
1 Baltic 34.46
2 North_Atlantic 29.09
3 East_Med 13.17
4 West_Med 12.74
5 West_Asian 5.81
6 Red_Sea 3.17
7 Oceanian 1.02
8 Siberian 0.34
9 South_Asian 0.15
10 Northeast_African 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance:
1 Croatian 5.08
2 Hungarian 5.4
3 Moldavian 6.61
4 Serbian 8.13
5 Austrian 9.6
6 South_Polish 9.69
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.85
8 East_German 9.93
9 Ukrainian 10.96
10 Romanian 12.35
11 Polish 13.12
12 Southwest_Russian 14.1
13 Bulgarian 14.58
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.67
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.35
16 Estonian_Polish 15.72
17 Belorussian 15.72
18 West_German 16.96
19 Southwest_Finnish 17.38
20 North_Swedish 18.12
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source)
1 62.1% Belorussian + 37.9% Tuscan @ 1.75
2 67.1% Serbian + 32.9% Belorussian @ 2.58
3 55.6% Lithuanian + 44.4% Tuscan @ 2.62
4 65.5% Belorussian + 34.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.71
5 62.5% Estonian_Polish + 37.5% Tuscan @ 2.74
6 80.5% South_Polish + 19.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.75
7 63.1% Russian_Smolensk + 36.9% Tuscan @ 2.79
8 75% Polish + 25% Italian_Jewish @ 2.87
9 80.7% South_Polish + 19.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.92
10 81.9% South_Polish + 18.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.96
11 67.1% Serbian + 32.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.97
12 72.1% Serbian + 27.9% Estonian @ 3
13 64.6% Belorussian + 35.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3
14 73.2% Serbian + 26.8% Lithuanian @ 3.03
15 75.1% Polish + 24.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.06
16 82% South_Polish + 18% Lybian_Jewish @ 3.07
17 77.3% South_Polish + 22.7% Ashkenazi @ 3.08
18 60.4% Estonian + 39.6% West_Sicilian @ 3.1
19 80.8% South_Pilish + 19.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.13
20 63% Serbian + 37% Polish @ 3.17
Looking through this results I realized that my father has pretty high east med. i mean..i don't know if it's high.
Is East_Med - 21.02 Pct on Eurogenes K13 considered high or it's normal?
Impaler
03-31-2020, 12:21 PM
Looking through this results I realized that my father has pretty high east med. i mean..i don't know if it's high.
Is East_Med - 21.02 Pct on Eurogenes K13 considered high or it's normal?
No, I don't think so. Mine is 21.54 Pct, my cousin is 20.01 Pct.
Average Romanian on K13 is 18.04 Pct.
No, I don't think so. Mine is 21.54 Pct, my cousin is 20.01 Pct.
Average Romanian on K13 is 18.04 Pct.
i see. i haven't seen many romanian results. i was curious. i mean i never paid attention until now
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 12:25 PM
Serb from Krajina.
Kit number: FT2178599
# Population percent
1 Baltic 34.46
2 North_Atlantic 29.09
3 East_Med 13.17
4 West_Med 12.74
5 West_Asian 5.81
6 Red_Sea 3.17
7 Oceanian 1.02
8 Siberian 0.34
9 South_Asian 0.15
10 Northeast_African 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance:
1 Croatian 5.08
2 Hungarian 5.4
3 Moldavian 6.61
4 Serbian 8.13
5 Austrian 9.6
6 South_Polish 9.69
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.85
8 East_German 9.93
9 Ukrainian 10.96
10 Romanian 12.35
11 Polish 13.12
12 Southwest_Russian 14.1
13 Bulgarian 14.58
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.67
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.35
16 Estonian_Polish 15.72
17 Belorussian 15.72
18 West_German 16.96
19 Southwest_Finnish 17.38
20 North_Swedish 18.12
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source)
1 62.1% Belorussian + 37.9% Tuscan @ 1.75
2 67.1% Serbian + 32.9% Belorussian @ 2.58
3 55.6% Lithuanian + 44.4% Tuscan @ 2.62
4 65.5% Belorussian + 34.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.71
5 62.5% Estonian_Polish + 37.5% Tuscan @ 2.74
6 80.5% South_Polish + 19.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.75
7 63.1% Russian_Smolensk + 36.9% Tuscan @ 2.79
8 75% Polish + 25% Italian_Jewish @ 2.87
9 80.7% South_Polish + 19.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.92
10 81.9% South_Polish + 18.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.96
11 67.1% Serbian + 32.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.97
12 72.1% Serbian + 27.9% Estonian @ 3
13 64.6% Belorussian + 35.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3
14 73.2% Serbian + 26.8% Lithuanian @ 3.03
15 75.1% Polish + 24.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.06
16 82% South_Polish + 18% Lybian_Jewish @ 3.07
17 77.3% South_Polish + 22.7% Ashkenazi @ 3.08
18 60.4% Estonian + 39.6% West_Sicilian @ 3.1
19 80.8% South_Pilish + 19.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.13
20 63% Serbian + 37% Polish @ 3.17
His K15.
North_Sea 20.25 Pct
Atlantic 19.15 Pct
Baltic 17.85 Pct
Eastern_Euro 16.29 Pct
West_Med 9.17 Pct
Wwst_Asian 4.95 Pct
East_Med 8.32 Pct
Red_Sea 3.40 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.61 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
His K12b.
Gedrosia 4.81 Pct
Siberian 0.28 Pct
Northwest_African 0.23 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 27.42 Pct
North_European 44.39 Pct
South_Asian 0.12 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.08 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 18.67 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
WeirdLookingFellow
03-31-2020, 12:32 PM
Looking through this results I realized that my father has pretty high east med. i mean..i don't know if it's high.
Is East_Med - 21.02 Pct on Eurogenes K13 considered high or it's normal?
Have seen this with Bulgarians and maybe some South Romanians score 20 as well. Gf scores 18.12 for example.
Zubović families are usually Croats and they are mostly from the Island of Pag , barely Serbs and Bosniaks. In the past century, relatively most of Croatian residents bearing this family name were born on the Island of Pag and in Rijeka. In places Zubovići and Kolan on the Island of Pag every second inhabitant had the family name Zubović.
Another orthodox covert from Croatian Islands. Keep searching for orthodox Croats and presenting them as Serbs.
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 01:22 PM
Zubović families are usually Croats and they are mostly from the Island of Pag , barely Serbs and Bosniaks. In the past century, relatively most of Croatian residents bearing this family name were born on the Island of Pag and in Rijeka. In places Zubovići and Kolan on the Island of Pag every second inhabitant had the family name Zubović.
Another orthodox covert from Croatian Islands. Keep searching for orthodox Croats and presenting them as Serbs.
Stop talking bullsits.
I am in comunication with him, and I have permission to post his kit, name and surname. Surname of his wife is Ćuk (typical Lika Serb surname).
He is more northern shifted than Hungry Lion, but not much. I have seen tons of Banija Serb results, and they are definitely most northern shifted Serbs. People who claimed German admixure in Hungry Lion are idiots. Even on Poreklo member Sremac (autosomal master on that forum) said that Banija Serb are most northern shifted Serbs autosomally.
Zubović originated (deeper origin) from Zubačko polje near Trebinje in East Herzegovina https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapti_Zupci
^^^^ Zubović is typical Croatian surname and has nothing to do with Serbs. The fact one of two Serbs carry it means their ancestors Serbified and nothing more.
Stop embarassing yourself. It's like me claiming Milošević is Croat surname because one or 2 Croats have it.
This person is of Croatian origin and has typical Croatian genetic results. He is biologically not a Serb.
Stop whitewashing Serbs by using people of Croatian origin to make yourself more northern, it's pathetic and extremely self-hating.
Also, Banija Serbs are northern because they are mixed, you imbecile. They didn't bring their central European DNA trom east Herzegovina and Montenegro lmao, they got it by mixing with Croats and Germans there.
Some of them still have typical Serb results though.
Serb from Banija (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banovina_(region)), name Nedjeljko Zubović. His wife has typical Lika Serb surname
Match
Largest segment = 8.7 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 8.7 cM (0.242 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 6.7
1 shared segments found for this comparison.
468824 SNPs used for this comparison.
68.046 Pct SNPs are full identical
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 01:33 PM
^^^^ Zubović is typical Croatian surname and has nothing to do with Serbs. The fact one of two Serbs carry it means their ancestors Serbified and nothing more.
Stop embarassing yourself. It's like me claiming Milošević is Croat surname because one or 2 Croats have it.
This person is of Croatian origin and has typical Croatian genetic results. He is biologically not a Serb.
Stop whitewashing Serbs by using people of Croatian origin to make yourself more northern, it's pathetic and extremely self-hating.
Calm down borring woman.
You are angry because this Serbs is more northern shifted than you!
Zubović Serbs except on Banija lived also around Korenica in Lika.
https://www.poreklo.rs/2012/03/07/zubovi%C4%87/?lang=lat&script=lat
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 01:34 PM
Match
Largest segment = 8.7 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 8.7 cM (0.242 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 6.7
1 shared segments found for this comparison.
468824 SNPs used for this comparison.
68.046 Pct SNPs are full identical
You are 1/2 Krajina Serb, so make sense. :thumb001:
Looking through this results I realized that my father has pretty high east med. i mean..i don't know if it's high.
Is East_Med - 21.02 Pct on Eurogenes K13 considered high or it's normal?
Can you share his Dodecad K12b components?
Calm down borring woman.
You are angry because this Serbs is more northern shifted than you!
Zubović Serbs except on Banija lived also around Korenica in Lika.
https://www.poreklo.rs/2012/03/07/zubovi%C4%87/?lang=lat&script=lat
Because he is not a Serb.
You are not same people as us, stop tying to make it seem we are the same.
Zubović surname is from Island of Pag.
You are pathetic, OWD clown.
And you actually despise your own people because you actually worship us. Real Serbs would hate you for that.
Real Serbs never try to do what you do and for that I respect them.
Fuck off.
Commonsense i ostali, dajte odgovorite više ovom trolu, nemam živaca za njega. Stalno mi šalje poruke sa DNA rezultatima ''Srba'' kao što je ovaj i onda čeka što ću komentirati, pa potencira sukob.
Zubović je je...no hrvatsko prezime 1000%, koji ..... je to sada srpsko?
Ovo je bolest. Nemam riječi.
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 01:41 PM
Because he is not a Serb.
You are not same people as us, stop tying to make it seem we are the same.
Zubović surname is from Island of Pag.
You are pathetic, OWD clown.
And you actually despise your own people because you actually worship us. Real Serbs would hate you for that.
Real Serbs never try to do what you do and for that I respect them.
Fuck off.
He is born as Serb and he identifirs itself as Serb as his ancestors.
Who fuck someone's great-great-grandmother many centuries ago it's not important for present day identity. Serbian family Maravić from Drežnica near Ogulin is R1b-U106, are they Germans bacause of that?
I am pretty sure Zubović is I2-PH908.
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 01:43 PM
Commonsense i ostali, dajte odgovorite više ovom trolu, nemam živaca za njega. Stalno mi šalje poruke sa DNA rezultatima ''Srba'' kao što je ovaj i onda čeka što ću komentirati, pa potencira sukob.
Zubović je je...no hrvatsko prezime 1000%, koji ..... je to sada srpsko?
Ovo je bolest. Nemam riječi.
Pupuši mi ti malo kurac da znaš. Dik ima poklapanje sa njim, jel Dik možda Hrvat?
He is born as Serb and he identifirs itself as Serb as his ancestors.
Who fuck someone's great-great-grandmother many centuries ago it's not important for present day identity. Serbian family Maravić from Drežnica near Ogulin is R1b-U106, are they Germans bacause of that?
I am pretty sure Zubović is I2-PH908.
He can be Serb, just like there are Croats with Serb surnames like Mitrović or Milošević. But the origin is not.
JohnnyP
03-31-2020, 01:43 PM
Pupuši mi ti malo kurac da znaš. Dik ima poklapanje sa njim, jel Dik možda Hrvat?
Ti si Hrvat.
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 01:44 PM
Ti si Hrvat.
Jebali ti Hrvati mater!
JohnnyP
03-31-2020, 01:44 PM
Jebali ti Hrvati mater!
A Dik e ponosen Makedonec. :D
Dušan
03-31-2020, 01:45 PM
Serb from Banija (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banovina_(region)), name Nedjeljko Zubović. His wife has typical Lika Serb surname
Kit number: FT2178599
# Population percent
1 Baltic 34.46
2 North_Atlantic 29.09
3 East_Med 13.17
4 West_Med 12.74
5 West_Asian 5.81
6 Red_Sea 3.17
7 Oceanian 1.02
8 Siberian 0.34
9 South_Asian 0.15
10 Northeast_African 0.04
The lowest value of paleo-Balkan, I have seen so far.
https://i.imgur.com/rDYB6zn.jpg
Ion Basescul
03-31-2020, 01:46 PM
Looking through this results I realized that my father has pretty high east med. i mean..i don't know if it's high.
Is East_Med - 21.02 Pct on Eurogenes K13 considered high or it's normal?
It depends on what you compare against. There are scores of even 22% in the Moldavia region, if I understand correctly that your father comes from there, but they are at the upper end. The average is about 15%.
https://i.imgur.com/mXHx36n.png
It is time to let Loki know Pribislav is sock of Serbo Makeridov, who was permabanned from here.
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 01:48 PM
Ustaškinjo, sjaši mi više sa vrata!
Zagorci nisu Hrvati zato svi do jednog šibaju dosta severniji od HR proseka i plotaju sa Česim i južnim Poljacima?
Jesi li ti ikad čula za diverzitet?
JohnnyP
03-31-2020, 01:49 PM
Ustaškinjo, sjaši mi više sa vrata!
Zagorci nisu Hrvati zato svi do jednog šibaju dosta severniji od HR proseka i plotaju sa Česim i južnim Poljacima?
Jesi li ti ikad čula za diverzitet?
Ti si Hrvat.
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 01:51 PM
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Šta tebe briga za Srbe, što te to toliko boli?
Gdedaj Hrvate, ostavi se Srba! Nijedan Srbin ne reče da je onaj Hrvat sa 40% Baltika nešto drugo, svi prihvatamo da je Hrvat.
Šta tebe briga za Srbe, što te to toliko boli?
Goedaj Hrvate, ostavi se Srba! Nijedan Srbin ne reče da je onaj Hrvat sa 40% Baltika nešto drugo, svi prihvatamo da je Hrvat.
Ostavi se Hrvata i prestani me spamati sa porukama o ''srpskim'' DNA rezultatima. Ti si mi poslao ovaj topic danas smrdo.
Ne želim da ljudi pomisle kako smo genetski isti jer je to laž, a sudeći po rezultatima koje ti postaš Srbi su srednji europljani.
E pa niste. Balkanski owd.
Zbogom i prestani me gnjaviti.
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 01:55 PM
Ostavi se Hrvata i prestani me spamati sa porukama o ''srpskim'' DNA reszultatima. Ti si mi poslao ovaj topic danas smrdo.
Ne želim da ljudi pomisle kako smo genetski isti jer je to laž, a sudeći po rezultatima koje ti postaš Srbi su srednji europljani.
E pa niste. Balkanski owd.
Zbogom i prestani me gnjaviti.
Ovo nije tema o Hrvatima nego o južnim Slovenima i okolnim narodima kao što piše u naslovu.
CommonSense
03-31-2020, 01:57 PM
Commonsense i ostali, dajte odgovorite više ovom trolu, nemam živaca za njega. Stalno mi šalje poruke sa DNA rezultatima ''Srba'' kao što je ovaj i onda čeka što ću komentirati, pa potencira sukob.
Zubović je je...no hrvatsko prezime 1000%, koji ..... je to sada srpsko?
Ovo je bolest. Nemam riječi.
Ovaj Nedjeljko Zubović sigurno nije iz Banije, već iz Like poreklom (i prezime jeste srpsko) i to baš iz kraja mog pradede. Ovde sam postavio rezultate jednog njegovog bližeg rođaka, Petra (373 zajedničih cM), koga imam u poklapanjima na FTDNA:
RW9524492
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299002-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-Eurogenes-results&p=6471869&viewfull=1#post6471869
Ne znam u kakvom su tačno srodstvu Nedjeljko i Petar, i koje je tačno poreklo tog čoveka pošto ga nemam u poklapanjima, ali iz Banije sigurno ne može biti. Takođe je smešna izjava da mu se žena preziva Ćuk, to je verovatno iskonstruisano zato što u poklapanjima ima izvesnu Milku Zubović-Ćuk sa kojom deli 560 cM. Ispada da je čovek oženjen svojom bliskom rođakom :P
Moram zaključiti da Pribislav govori neistinu, jer da je stvarno u kontaktu sa ovim čovekom, ne bi izneo ove potupuno nelogične podatke. Izgleda da je ovde cilj da se ide po gedmatch-u traže koji imaju dosta severnoevropskog DNK, a prezimena koja postoje u Baniji, koje će potom proglasiti za banijske Srbe bez ikakvog proveravanja.
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 02:01 PM
Ovaj Nedjeljko Zubović sigurno nije iz Banije, već iz Like poreklom (i prezime jeste srpsko) i to baš iz kraja mog pradede. Ovde sam postavio rezultate jednog njegovog bližeg rođaka, Petra (373 zajedničih cM), koga imam u poklapanjima na FTDNA:
RW9524492
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299002-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-Eurogenes-results&p=6471869&viewfull=1#post6471869
Ne znam u kakvom su tačno srodstvu Nedjeljko i Petar, i koje je tačno poreklo tog čoveka pošto ga nemam u poklapanjima, ali iz Banije sigurno ne može biti. Takođe je smešna izjava da mu se žena preziva Ćuk, to je verovatno iskonstruisano zato što u poklapanjima ima izvesnu Milku Zubović-Ćuk sa kojom deli 560 cM. Ispada da je čovek oženjen svojom bliskom rođakom :P
Moram zaključiti da Pribislav govori neistinu, jer da je stvarno u kontaktu sa ovim čovekom, ne bi izneo ove potupuno nelogične podatke. Izgleda da je ovde cilj da se ide po gedmatch-u traže koji imaju dosta severnoevropskog DNK, a prezimena koja postoje u Baniji, koje će potom proglasiti za banijske Srbe bez ikakvog proveravanja.
Takve informaciie sam dobio.
Srbin jeste sigurno, to je najbitnije. Jesam li ja rekao da je Srba Zubovića bilo isto u Lici? Pogledaj neke od mojih prethodnih postova.
Ovaj Nedjeljko Zubović sigurno nije iz Banije, već iz Like poreklom (i prezime jeste srpsko) i to baš iz kraja mog pradede. Ovde sam postavio rezultate jednog njegovog bližeg rođaka, Petra (373 zajedničih cM), koga imam u poklapanjima na FTDNA:
Match also;
Largest segment = 9.9 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 9.9 cM (0.277 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 5.3
1 shared segments found for this comparison.
432366 SNPs used for this comparison.
70.057 Pct SNPs are full identical
Comparison took 0.261 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.048 cpu seconds.
CommonSense
03-31-2020, 02:06 PM
Takve informaciie sam dobio.
Srbin jeste sigurno, to je najbitnije. Jesam li ja rekao da je Srba Zubovića bilo isto u Lici? Pogledaj neke od mojih ptethodnij postova.
Pa sad, ne mogu da poverujem da si to dobio direktno od njega. Ovaj Petar je iz opštine Korenica, a na srprskom dnk projektu imamo testiranog Zubovića iz sela Vrela u toj opštini. To je rodno selo mog pradede i tamo su živeli samo Srbi. Da li Neđeljko po ženskoj liniji ima neko drugo, strano, poreklo, to ne znam i glupo mi je da nagađam kad nemam uvid u njegovo porodično stablo.
andre
03-31-2020, 02:12 PM
It depends on what you compare against. There are scores of even 22% in the Moldavia region, if I understand correctly that your father comes from there, but they are at the upper end. The average is about 15%.
https://i.imgur.com/mXHx36n.png
Man, do you have Bacau samples and you don't tell me nothing?! :)
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 02:14 PM
Pa sad, ne mogu da poverujem da si to dobio direktno od njega. Ovaj Petar je iz opštine Korenica, a na srprskom dnk projektu imamo testiranog Zubovića iz sela Vrela u toj opštini. To je rodno selo mog pradede i tamo su živeli samo Srbi. Da li Neđeljko po ženskoj liniji ima neko drugo, strano, poreklo, to ne znam i glupo mi je da nagađam kad nemam uvid u njegovo porodično stablo.
OK, dobio sam iz druge ruke. Proveriću gde je nastala greška. Rekao sam za prvu ruku zato što je mađarica navalila da govori da osoba uopšte nije Srbin, jel treba da dubim na glavi ili da se ubijem da joj dokažem da je Srbin?
Jedino što je važno je da je osoba Srbin. Postoji ime, prezime, kit i kraj priče. Još je interesantnije ako je Ličanin.
Promeniću post od Banija u Krajina, to obuhvata Srbe iz HR iz Bosanske Krajine.
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 02:27 PM
Pa sad, ne mogu da poverujem da si to dobio direktno od njega. Ovaj Petar je iz opštine Korenica, a na srprskom dnk projektu imamo testiranog Zubovića iz sela Vrela u toj opštini. To je rodno selo mog pradede i tamo su živeli samo Srbi. Da li Neđeljko po ženskoj liniji ima neko drugo, strano, poreklo, to ne znam i glupo mi je da nagađam kad nemam uvid u njegovo porodično stablo.
Da, vidim sad na tabeli.
Zubović (Jovanjdan, Vrelo/Korenica, Lika) - I2-PH908
Starina iz Istočne Hercegovine 1/1, kakav Pag, kakvi Hrvati, kakvi bakrači...
I2-PH908
https://media.giphy.com/media/xUySTUZ8A2RJBQitEc/giphy.gif
Zubović je hrvatsko prezime, ponavljam. Apsolutno ne srpsko. To biste i sami trebali znati, valjda možete razlikovati jedna od drugih. Ili pak ne xD
Maintenance
03-31-2020, 02:55 PM
Ponavljam, Zubanovic je srpsko prezime, nemoj dozvoliti onu glupu njemacko-hrvatsku zenu da te laze.
https://media3.giphy.com/media/x6RunS9u1L3AA/giphy.gif
Ion Basescul
03-31-2020, 03:06 PM
Man, do you have Bacau samples and you don't tell me nothing?! :)
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?318490-Moldovan-Romanian-GEDmatch-Resuts
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 03:19 PM
Zubović je hrvatsko prezime, ponavljam. Apsolutno ne srpsko. To biste i sami trebali znati, valjda možete razlikovati jedna od drugih. Ili pak ne xD
Vrelo Koreničko odakle je testirani Neđeljko Zubović je do 1995 bilo čisto srpsko selo https://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vrelo_Koreničko#Popis_1991.
Korenički/plitvički kraj je imao apsolutnu srpsku većinu, nije to gospićki kraj u kojem su Srbi i Hrvati bili izmešani.
Dušan
03-31-2020, 03:24 PM
Some of my first 10 matches on Gedmatch.
Surname Ćupurdija
Ћупурдија – Фркашић, Клашњица (Кореница)
https://www.poreklo.rs/2012/04/05/li%C4%8Dka-prezimena/
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.68
2 North_Atlantic 23.43
3 West_Med 18.73
4 East_Med 12.28
5 West_Asian 10.37
6 Red_Sea 1.76
7 Siberian 1.33
8 Oceanian 0.42
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.53
2 Serbian 6.48
3 Croatian 7.32
4 Romanian 8.34
5 Bulgarian 9.82
6 Hungarian 10.08
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.26
8 Austrian 13.45
9 East_German 14.21
10 Ukrainian 14.54
11 South_Polish 14.54
12 Polish 17.81
13 Southwest_Russian 17.97
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.17
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.34
16 Russian_Smolensk 19.71
17 West_German 19.86
18 Estonian_Polish 20.27
19 Belorussian 21.09
20 Tatar 21.12
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.6% Moldavian + 8.4% Sardinian @ 2.4
2 74.1% Moldavian + 25.9% Bulgarian @ 3.17
3 84.8% Moldavian + 15.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.18
4 88.7% Moldavian + 11.3% Central_Greek @ 3.22
5 90.3% Moldavian + 9.7% South_Italian @ 3.24
6 87.7% Moldavian + 12.3% Tuscan @ 3.25
7 89.2% Moldavian + 10.8% West_Sicilian @ 3.27
8 89.4% Moldavian + 10.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.29
9 91.9% Moldavian + 8.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.36
10 87.3% Moldavian + 12.7% North_Italian @ 3.36
11 71.6% Moldavian + 28.4% Romanian @ 3.37
12 89.1% Moldavian + 10.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.39
13 92.2% Moldavian + 7.8% Italian_Jewish @ 3.45
14 93.3% Moldavian + 6.7% Cyprian @ 3.5
15 92.5% Moldavian + 7.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.52
16 90.9% Moldavian + 9.1% Ashkenazi @ 3.57
17 58.9% Croatian + 41.1% Bulgarian @ 3.58
18 58.3% Bulgarian + 41.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.58
19 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.62
20 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.64
https://i.imgur.com/KM4zOQ5.jpg
Surname Smiljanić
Смиљанић – Госпић, Граб (Грачац), Пишаћ, Прокике (Бриње), Рапаин кланац, Жупањол
https://www.poreklo.rs/2012/04/05/li%C4%8Dka-prezimena/
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.81
2 North_Atlantic 21.21
3 West_Med 19.99
4 East_Med 16.85
5 West_Asian 6.81
6 Red_Sea 1.58
7 Amerindian 0.96
8 Oceanian 0.78
9 East_Asian 0.49
10 Siberian 0.32
11 South_Asian 0.2
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 7.62
2 Romanian 7.93
3 Bulgarian 8.19
4 Moldavian 8.54
5 Croatian 10.73
6 Hungarian 13.1
7 Greek_Thessaly 15.7
8 Austrian 16.54
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.62
10 East_German 17.43
11 Ukrainian 17.53
12 South_Polish 17.81
13 North_Italian 19.93
14 Southwest_Russian 20.67
15 Tuscan 20.8
16 Polish 20.88
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.17
18 West_German 22.15
19 Russian_Smolensk 22.6
20 French 22.8
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53% Greek_Thessaly + 47% Ukrainian @ 4.56
2 64.9% Ukrainian + 35.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.63
3 59.9% Greek_Thessaly + 40.1% Estonian_Polish @ 4.74
4 64.8% Greek_Thessaly + 35.2% Lithuanian @ 4.79
5 76.7% Croatian + 23.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.06
6 51.6% Greek_Thessaly + 48.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.1
7 59.7% Greek_Thessaly + 40.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.13
8 72.4% Bulgarian + 27.6% Ukrainian @ 5.14
9 61.1% Croatian + 38.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.14
10 61.3% Ukrainian + 38.7% South_Italian @ 5.14
11 77.7% Bulgarian + 22.3% Estonian_Polish @ 5.14
12 58.3% Ukrainian + 41.7% East_Sicilian @ 5.19
13 60.9% Greek_Thessaly + 39.1% Belorussian @ 5.2
14 57.1% Ukrainian + 42.9% Central_Greek @ 5.21
15 57.7% Greek_Thessaly + 42.3% Polish @ 5.21
16 65.4% Ukrainian + 34.6% Italian_Jewish @ 5.23
17 81.3% Bulgarian + 18.7% Lithuanian @ 5.25
18 66.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.3
19 57.5% Greek_Thessaly + 42.5% Southwest_Russian @ 5.31
20 60% Bulgarian + 40% Croatian @ 5.34
https://i.imgur.com/5qrokdG.jpg
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 03:35 PM
Some of my first 10 matches on Gedmatch.
Surname Ćupurdija
https://www.poreklo.rs/2012/04/05/li%C4%8Dka-prezimena/
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.68
2 North_Atlantic 23.43
3 West_Med 18.73
4 East_Med 12.28
5 West_Asian 10.37
6 Red_Sea 1.76
7 Siberian 1.33
8 Oceanian 0.42
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.53
2 Serbian 6.48
3 Croatian 7.32
4 Romanian 8.34
5 Bulgarian 9.82
6 Hungarian 10.08
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.26
8 Austrian 13.45
9 East_German 14.21
10 Ukrainian 14.54
11 South_Polish 14.54
12 Polish 17.81
13 Southwest_Russian 17.97
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.17
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.34
16 Russian_Smolensk 19.71
17 West_German 19.86
18 Estonian_Polish 20.27
19 Belorussian 21.09
20 Tatar 21.12
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.6% Moldavian + 8.4% Sardinian @ 2.4
2 74.1% Moldavian + 25.9% Bulgarian @ 3.17
3 84.8% Moldavian + 15.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.18
4 88.7% Moldavian + 11.3% Central_Greek @ 3.22
5 90.3% Moldavian + 9.7% South_Italian @ 3.24
6 87.7% Moldavian + 12.3% Tuscan @ 3.25
7 89.2% Moldavian + 10.8% West_Sicilian @ 3.27
8 89.4% Moldavian + 10.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.29
9 91.9% Moldavian + 8.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.36
10 87.3% Moldavian + 12.7% North_Italian @ 3.36
11 71.6% Moldavian + 28.4% Romanian @ 3.37
12 89.1% Moldavian + 10.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.39
13 92.2% Moldavian + 7.8% Italian_Jewish @ 3.45
14 93.3% Moldavian + 6.7% Cyprian @ 3.5
15 92.5% Moldavian + 7.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.52
16 90.9% Moldavian + 9.1% Ashkenazi @ 3.57
17 58.9% Croatian + 41.1% Bulgarian @ 3.58
18 58.3% Bulgarian + 41.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.58
19 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.62
20 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.64
https://i.imgur.com/KM4zOQ5.jpg
I wonder is there any sense about "Moldavian" in reality... Ion Basescul posted a lot of Moldavisn results and their average is more southern than Gedmatch "Moldavian." It seems Gedmatch "Moldavian" average is based on recent Ukrainian and Russian admixed Moldavians.
CommonSense
03-31-2020, 03:35 PM
Some of my first 10 matches on Gedmatch.
Surname Ćupurdija
https://www.poreklo.rs/2012/04/05/li%C4%8Dka-prezimena/
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.68
2 North_Atlantic 23.43
3 West_Med 18.73
4 East_Med 12.28
5 West_Asian 10.37
6 Red_Sea 1.76
7 Siberian 1.33
8 Oceanian 0.42
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.53
2 Serbian 6.48
3 Croatian 7.32
4 Romanian 8.34
5 Bulgarian 9.82
6 Hungarian 10.08
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.26
8 Austrian 13.45
9 East_German 14.21
10 Ukrainian 14.54
11 South_Polish 14.54
12 Polish 17.81
13 Southwest_Russian 17.97
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.17
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.34
16 Russian_Smolensk 19.71
17 West_German 19.86
18 Estonian_Polish 20.27
19 Belorussian 21.09
20 Tatar 21.12
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.6% Moldavian + 8.4% Sardinian @ 2.4
2 74.1% Moldavian + 25.9% Bulgarian @ 3.17
3 84.8% Moldavian + 15.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.18
4 88.7% Moldavian + 11.3% Central_Greek @ 3.22
5 90.3% Moldavian + 9.7% South_Italian @ 3.24
6 87.7% Moldavian + 12.3% Tuscan @ 3.25
7 89.2% Moldavian + 10.8% West_Sicilian @ 3.27
8 89.4% Moldavian + 10.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.29
9 91.9% Moldavian + 8.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.36
10 87.3% Moldavian + 12.7% North_Italian @ 3.36
11 71.6% Moldavian + 28.4% Romanian @ 3.37
12 89.1% Moldavian + 10.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.39
13 92.2% Moldavian + 7.8% Italian_Jewish @ 3.45
14 93.3% Moldavian + 6.7% Cyprian @ 3.5
15 92.5% Moldavian + 7.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.52
16 90.9% Moldavian + 9.1% Ashkenazi @ 3.57
17 58.9% Croatian + 41.1% Bulgarian @ 3.58
18 58.3% Bulgarian + 41.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.58
19 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.62
20 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.64
https://i.imgur.com/KM4zOQ5.jpg
Surname Smiljanić
https://www.poreklo.rs/2012/04/05/li%C4%8Dka-prezimena/
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.81
2 North_Atlantic 21.21
3 West_Med 19.99
4 East_Med 16.85
5 West_Asian 6.81
6 Red_Sea 1.58
7 Amerindian 0.96
8 Oceanian 0.78
9 East_Asian 0.49
10 Siberian 0.32
11 South_Asian 0.2
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 7.62
2 Romanian 7.93
3 Bulgarian 8.19
4 Moldavian 8.54
5 Croatian 10.73
6 Hungarian 13.1
7 Greek_Thessaly 15.7
8 Austrian 16.54
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.62
10 East_German 17.43
11 Ukrainian 17.53
12 South_Polish 17.81
13 North_Italian 19.93
14 Southwest_Russian 20.67
15 Tuscan 20.8
16 Polish 20.88
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.17
18 West_German 22.15
19 Russian_Smolensk 22.6
20 French 22.8
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53% Greek_Thessaly + 47% Ukrainian @ 4.56
2 64.9% Ukrainian + 35.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.63
3 59.9% Greek_Thessaly + 40.1% Estonian_Polish @ 4.74
4 64.8% Greek_Thessaly + 35.2% Lithuanian @ 4.79
5 76.7% Croatian + 23.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.06
6 51.6% Greek_Thessaly + 48.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.1
7 59.7% Greek_Thessaly + 40.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.13
8 72.4% Bulgarian + 27.6% Ukrainian @ 5.14
9 61.1% Croatian + 38.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.14
10 61.3% Ukrainian + 38.7% South_Italian @ 5.14
11 77.7% Bulgarian + 22.3% Estonian_Polish @ 5.14
12 58.3% Ukrainian + 41.7% East_Sicilian @ 5.19
13 60.9% Greek_Thessaly + 39.1% Belorussian @ 5.2
14 57.1% Ukrainian + 42.9% Central_Greek @ 5.21
15 57.7% Greek_Thessaly + 42.3% Polish @ 5.21
16 65.4% Ukrainian + 34.6% Italian_Jewish @ 5.23
17 81.3% Bulgarian + 18.7% Lithuanian @ 5.25
18 66.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.3
19 57.5% Greek_Thessaly + 42.5% Southwest_Russian @ 5.31
20 60% Bulgarian + 40% Croatian @ 5.34
https://i.imgur.com/5qrokdG.jpg
Ćupurdija is near the top of my list too on gedmatch, but I have no info about her since we don't match on FTDNA/MyHeritage.
Dušan
03-31-2020, 03:46 PM
Surname Bekić
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.16
2 North_Atlantic 25.36
3 West_Med 15.88
4 East_Med 15.84
5 West_Asian 6.5
6 Red_Sea 3.16
7 Siberian 0.91
8 Oceanian 0.89
9 East_Asian 0.3
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.57
2 Moldavian 6.31
3 Romanian 7.72
4 Croatian 7.73
5 Hungarian 8.67
6 Bulgarian 9.49
7 Austrian 12.46
8 East_German 13.52
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.8
10 South_Polish 14.44
11 Ukrainian 14.95
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.65
13 Polish 17.85
14 Southwest_Russian 18.07
15 West_German 18.54
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.61
17 Russian_Smolensk 19.81
18 South_Dutch 19.94
19 Estonian_Polish 20.1
20 French 20.16
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.5% Estonian_Polish + 44.5% West_Sicilian @ 1.91
2 54.9% Belorussian + 45.1% West_Sicilian @ 1.97
3 50.3% West_Sicilian + 49.7% Lithuanian @ 2.08
4 55.9% Russian_Smolensk + 44.1% West_Sicilian @ 2.39
5 70.2% South_Polish + 29.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.42
6 65.5% Polish + 34.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.42
7 69.5% Ukrainian + 30.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.43
8 54.5% Southwest_Russian + 45.5% Tuscan @ 2.43
9 70.2% South_Polish + 29.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.63
10 65.5% Polish + 34.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.64
11 58.4% Greek_Thessaly + 41.6% Estonian @ 2.68
12 62.9% Ukrainian + 37.1% West_Sicilian @ 2.71
13 78.5% Croatian + 21.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.72
14 53.9% Greek_Thessaly + 46.1% Belorussian @ 2.72
15 71.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 28.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.74
16 82.3% Croatian + 17.7% Italian_Jewish @ 2.74
17 51.8% Estonian_Polish + 48.2% Tuscan @ 2.8
18 69.7% Ukrainian + 30.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.82
19 65.1% South_Polish + 34.9% Ashkenazi @ 2.86
20 82.4% Croatian + 17.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.9
https://i.imgur.com/yDZkaAR.jpg
CommonSense
03-31-2020, 03:53 PM
This is probably that Smiljanić girl : link (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5jWWlIpUVQg_13yEv4-XFw/featured)
She's a Serbian-Canadian like Dick and Decius :D
Dušan
03-31-2020, 03:55 PM
This is probably that Smiljanić girl : link (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5jWWlIpUVQg_13yEv4-XFw/featured)
She's a Serbian-Canadian like Dick and Decius :D
Probably.:)
In Gedmatch is Jovanka Jojamarija Smiljanic-Jazic
Dušan
03-31-2020, 04:05 PM
Krajina Serb surname Tojaga
Tојага – Ком (Зрмања), Велика Попина, Врело (Зрмања)
Interesting precentages
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.29
2 North_Atlantic 29.12
3 West_Med 18.83
4 East_Med 9.2
5 West_Asian 7.93
6 South_Asian 1.76
7 Red_Sea 1.69
8 East_Asian 1.53
9 Amerindian 0.65
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 6.97
2 Serbian 7.04
3 Moldavian 7.13
4 Croatian 7.54
5 Austrian 8.29
6 East_German 9.13
7 Romanian 10.32
8 Bulgarian 12.86
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.44
10 South_Polish 13.81
11 West_German 14.27
12 Ukrainian 14.67
13 South_Dutch 15.34
14 French 16.04
15 Polish 17.16
16 North_German 18.13
17 North_Italian 19.08
18 Southwest_Russian 19.15
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.35
20 Spanish_Galicia 19.61
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.1% Moldavian + 16.9% French_Basque @ 1.96
2 76.1% Moldavian + 23.9% Southwest_French @ 2.16
3 76.7% Moldavian + 23.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.47
4 76.5% Croatian + 23.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.51
5 76.4% Croatian + 23.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.67
6 79.3% Moldavian + 20.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.68
7 75.2% Croatian + 24.8% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.73
8 73.5% Croatian + 26.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.77
9 75.9% Croatian + 24.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.8
10 58.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 41.1% North_Italian @ 2.84
11 77.7% Moldavian + 22.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.84
12 78.4% Croatian + 21.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.87
13 75.6% Moldavian + 24.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.88
14 74.9% Moldavian + 25.1% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.93
15 75.6% Croatian + 24.4% Southwest_French @ 2.94
16 76% Croatian + 24% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.94
17 76.2% Croatian + 23.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.98
18 76.5% Moldavian + 23.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.98
19 74.4% Croatian + 25.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3
20 74.1% Croatian + 25.9% Portuguese @ 3.06
https://i.imgur.com/hR9KVme.jpg
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 04:14 PM
Krajina Serb surname Tojaga
Interesting precentages
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.29
2 North_Atlantic 29.12
3 West_Med 18.83
4 East_Med 9.2
5 West_Asian 7.93
6 South_Asian 1.76
7 Red_Sea 1.69
8 East_Asian 1.53
9 Amerindian 0.65
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 6.97
2 Serbian 7.04
3 Moldavian 7.13
4 Croatian 7.54
5 Austrian 8.29
6 East_German 9.13
7 Romanian 10.32
8 Bulgarian 12.86
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.44
10 South_Polish 13.81
11 West_German 14.27
12 Ukrainian 14.67
13 South_Dutch 15.34
14 French 16.04
15 Polish 17.16
16 North_German 18.13
17 North_Italian 19.08
18 Southwest_Russian 19.15
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.35
20 Spanish_Galicia 19.61
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.1% Moldavian + 16.9% French_Basque @ 1.96
2 76.1% Moldavian + 23.9% Southwest_French @ 2.16
3 76.7% Moldavian + 23.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.47
4 76.5% Croatian + 23.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.51
5 76.4% Croatian + 23.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.67
6 79.3% Moldavian + 20.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.68
7 75.2% Croatian + 24.8% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.73
8 73.5% Croatian + 26.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.77
9 75.9% Croatian + 24.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.8
10 58.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 41.1% North_Italian @ 2.84
11 77.7% Moldavian + 22.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.84
12 78.4% Croatian + 21.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.87
13 75.6% Moldavian + 24.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.88
14 74.9% Moldavian + 25.1% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.93
15 75.6% Croatian + 24.4% Southwest_French @ 2.94
16 76% Croatian + 24% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.94
17 76.2% Croatian + 23.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.98
18 76.5% Moldavian + 23.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.98
19 74.4% Croatian + 25.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3
20 74.1% Croatian + 25.9% Portuguese @ 3.06
https://i.imgur.com/hR9KVme.jpg
Very interesting result. Same Baltic and North_Atlantic score, and 1.53% East_Asian.
WeirdLookingFellow
03-31-2020, 04:15 PM
Krajina Serb surname Tojaga
Interesting precentages
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Does Tojaga mean anything in particular?
Because this is a toiag in Romanian:
https://cdni.3pitici.ro/images/products/3pimg/8267/normal/widmann-toiag-mag-12600.jpeg
Dušan
03-31-2020, 04:30 PM
Does Tojaga mean anything in particular?
Because this is a toiag in Romanian:
https://cdni.3pitici.ro/images/products/3pimg/8267/normal/widmann-toiag-mag-12600.jpeg
Almost the same.
Tojaga, toljaga - weapon or tool made of timber.
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 04:35 PM
Does Tojaga mean anything in particular?
Because this is a toiag in Romanian:
https://cdni.3pitici.ro/images/products/3pimg/8267/normal/widmann-toiag-mag-12600.jpeg
Toljaga or tojaga is baton on Serbian 96806
https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toljaga
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 04:37 PM
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Dušan
03-31-2020, 05:12 PM
Some of my first 10 matches on Gedmatch.
Surname Hinić
Хинић – Бунић, Дебело брдо (Бунић), Дољани (Шкаре), Козјан (Бунић), Радотић село (Бриње), Турјански, Залужница, Жељава
https://www.poreklo.rs/2012/04/05/li%C4%8Dka-prezimena/
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.19
2 North_Atlantic 21.44
3 West_Med 17.96
4 East_Med 17.44
5 West_Asian 6.2
6 Red_Sea 0.99
7 East_Asian 0.87
8 South_Asian 0.82
9 Siberian 0.6
10 Amerindian 0.48
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.84
2 Serbian 8.21
3 Romanian 9.35
4 Croatian 9.55
5 Bulgarian 9.82
6 Hungarian 12.41
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.01
8 Ukrainian 15.67
9 South_Polish 16.03
10 Austrian 16.4
11 East_German 17.03
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.64
13 Southwest_Russian 18.48
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.04
15 Polish 19.09
16 Russian_Smolensk 20.57
17 Estonian_Polish 20.68
18 Belorussian 21.45
19 North_Italian 22.14
20 Kargopol_Russian 22.57
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.7% Ukrainian + 31.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.28
2 54.2% Greek_Thessaly + 45.8% Estonian_Polish @ 4.44
3 59.8% Greek_Thessaly + 40.2% Lithuanian @ 4.53
4 63.4% Ukrainian + 36.6% Ashkenazi @ 4.53
5 53.2% Ukrainian + 46.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.71
6 69.1% Ukrainian + 30.9% Italian_Jewish @ 4.74
7 55.2% Greek_Thessaly + 44.8% Belorussian @ 4.83
8 62.2% Estonian_Polish + 37.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.83
9 70.3% Bulgarian + 29.7% Estonian_Polish @ 4.91
10 51.3% Greek_Thessaly + 48.7% Southwest_Russian @ 4.92
11 56.6% Lithuanian + 43.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.96
12 58.8% Estonian_Polish + 41.2% South_Italian @ 5.02
13 54.1% Greek_Thessaly + 45.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.04
14 75% Bulgarian + 25% Lithuanian @ 5.07
15 54.8% Estonian_Polish + 45.2% Central_Greek @ 5.13
16 71.4% Bulgarian + 28.6% Belorussian @ 5.16
17 63.9% Bulgarian + 36.1% Ukrainian @ 5.18
18 63.2% Ukrainian + 36.8% East_Sicilian @ 5.2
19 53.1% Lithuanian + 46.9% South_Italian @ 5.22
20 62.4% Russian_Smolensk + 37.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.22
https://i.imgur.com/oIsHxrI.jpg
andre
03-31-2020, 05:15 PM
Krajina Serb surname Tojaga
Interesting precentages
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.29
2 North_Atlantic 29.12
3 West_Med 18.83
4 East_Med 9.2
5 West_Asian 7.93
6 South_Asian 1.76
7 Red_Sea 1.69
8 East_Asian 1.53
9 Amerindian 0.65
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 6.97
2 Serbian 7.04
3 Moldavian 7.13
4 Croatian 7.54
5 Austrian 8.29
6 East_German 9.13
7 Romanian 10.32
8 Bulgarian 12.86
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.44
10 South_Polish 13.81
11 West_German 14.27
12 Ukrainian 14.67
13 South_Dutch 15.34
14 French 16.04
15 Polish 17.16
16 North_German 18.13
17 North_Italian 19.08
18 Southwest_Russian 19.15
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.35
20 Spanish_Galicia 19.61
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.1% Moldavian + 16.9% French_Basque @ 1.96
2 76.1% Moldavian + 23.9% Southwest_French @ 2.16
3 76.7% Moldavian + 23.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.47
4 76.5% Croatian + 23.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.51
5 76.4% Croatian + 23.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.67
6 79.3% Moldavian + 20.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.68
7 75.2% Croatian + 24.8% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.73
8 73.5% Croatian + 26.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.77
9 75.9% Croatian + 24.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.8
10 58.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 41.1% North_Italian @ 2.84
11 77.7% Moldavian + 22.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.84
12 78.4% Croatian + 21.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.87
13 75.6% Moldavian + 24.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.88
14 74.9% Moldavian + 25.1% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.93
15 75.6% Croatian + 24.4% Southwest_French @ 2.94
16 76% Croatian + 24% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.94
17 76.2% Croatian + 23.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.98
18 76.5% Moldavian + 23.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.98
19 74.4% Croatian + 25.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3
20 74.1% Croatian + 25.9% Portuguese @ 3.06
https://i.imgur.com/hR9KVme.jpg
Just a question; i saw that a lot of Kraijna Serbs score some celto-germanic ancestry,Why?
There have been so much germans in the area that impact in autosomal dna of the local slavs?
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 05:20 PM
Just a question; i saw that a lot of Kraijna Serbs score some celto-germanic ancestry,Why?
There have been so much germans in the area that impact in autosomal dna of the local slavs?
Other Serbs also can score some celto-germanic.
Dušan
03-31-2020, 05:21 PM
Just a question; i saw that a lot of Kraijna Serbs score some celto-germanic ancestry,Why?
There have been so much germans in the area that impact in autosomal dna of the local slavs?
Not a lot, actualy. As you can see, all these people I post is Krajina Serbs and lot of them (including me) have 0% Celto-Germanic.
Some Serbs indeed have it. My theory is that admixture came from migration of west Slavs to Balkans, from Czech land, that was prevously inhabited by Celts, who got assimilated by Slavs.
There were no German settlers in Krajina.
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 05:46 PM
Not a lot, actualy. As you can see, all these people I post is Krajina Serbs and lot of them (including me) have 0% Celto-Germanic.
Some Serbs indeed have it. My theory is that admixture came from migration of west Slavs to Balkans, from Czech land, that was prevously inhabited by Celts, who got assimilated by Slavs.
There were no German settlers in Krajina.
Germanic influence can be from various sources.
Before Slavic migration Goths were present in western Balkan and Gepids in modern Vojvodina, in Belgrade and part of Šumadija.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gepids#Kingdom_of_the_Gepids
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostrogothic_Kingdom
Slavs for sure absorbed some Goths and Gepids, we have Macure I1-Z63 who probably carry "Gothic" paternal line.
In late 11th century Normans from southern Italy lead by Robert Guiscard attacked Byzantine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Guiscard#Against_the_Byzantines
We have Drobjak clan I1-P109 whose paternal ancestor probably arrived as Norman in late 11th century.
In 13th century Saxon miners settled in Serbia and Bosnia, I2-M223 and R1b-U106 among Serbs is from them and possible some I1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxons_in_medieval_Serbia
Dušan
03-31-2020, 08:08 PM
Some more my matches from Gedmatch
Krajina Serb surname Bogdanović
Богдановић – Бабин поток (Врховине), Бротња, Госпић, Оточац, Срб, Вребац, Врховине
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.66
2 North_Atlantic 22.44
3 West_Med 16.44
4 East_Med 12.91
5 West_Asian 11.43
6 Red_Sea 1.85
7 Siberian 1.76
8 Amerindian 0.2
9 East_Asian 0.19
10 Oceanian 0.1
11 South_Asian 0.02
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.85
2 Serbian 7.02
3 Croatian 7.14
4 Romanian 8.72
5 Bulgarian 10.02
6 Hungarian 10.28
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.63
8 Ukrainian 13.93
9 South_Polish 14.04
10 Austrian 14.32
11 East_German 15.04
12 Southwest_Russian 16.77
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.88
14 Polish 17.29
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.8
16 Russian_Smolensk 18.85
17 Estonian_Polish 19.45
18 Tatar 19.61
19 Belorussian 20.23
20 Kargopol_Russian 20.5
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.1% Moldavian + 6.9% Cyprian @ 2.46
2 94.2% Moldavian + 5.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.56
3 77.3% Moldavian + 22.7% Bulgarian @ 2.59
4 94.2% Moldavian + 5.8% Samaritan @ 2.61
5 94% Moldavian + 6% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.63
6 94.1% Moldavian + 5.9% Assyrian @ 2.63
7 90.1% Moldavian + 9.9% Central_Greek @ 2.65
8 94.2% Moldavian + 5.8% Armenian @ 2.67
9 94.4% Moldavian + 5.6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.69
10 93.8% Moldavian + 6.2% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.7
11 94.4% Moldavian + 5.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.72
12 87.4% Moldavian + 12.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.75
13 90.9% Moldavian + 9.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.76
14 91.8% Moldavian + 8.2% South_Italian @ 2.77
15 94.5% Moldavian + 5.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.77
16 94.1% Moldavian + 5.9% Syrian @ 2.81
17 93.3% Moldavian + 6.7% Turkish @ 2.82
18 93.1% Moldavian + 6.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.83
19 91.5% Moldavian + 8.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.83
20 56.2% Bulgarian + 43.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.86
https://i.imgur.com/FVWKli5.jpg
Very similar to mine K13 result
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Krajina Serb surname Zeljković
Зељковић – Дугопоље (Срб) This one is from village of my grandma
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.2
2 North_Atlantic 22.3
3 West_Med 18.58
4 East_Med 18.44
5 West_Asian 7.68
6 Red_Sea 2.19
7 Amerindian 1.34
8 Oceanian 1.27
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 5.4
2 Bulgarian 5.65
3 Serbian 6.05
4 Moldavian 9.55
5 Croatian 11.95
6 Hungarian 12.97
7 Greek_Thessaly 13.25
8 Austrian 16.24
9 East_German 17.59
10 North_Italian 17.93
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.21
12 Tuscan 18.31
13 South_Polish 19.16
14 Ukrainian 19.3
15 Italian_Abruzzo 20.27
16 Central_Greek 20.44
17 West_German 20.99
18 West_Sicilian 21.08
19 French 21.4
20 East_Sicilian 21.54
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.7% Greek_Thessaly + 40.3% Ukrainian @ 3.1
2 65.4% Greek_Thessaly + 34.6% Estonian_Polish @ 3.12
3 69.7% Greek_Thessaly + 30.3% Lithuanian @ 3.16
4 71.8% Croatian + 28.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.33
5 63.4% Greek_Thessaly + 36.6% Polish @ 3.33
6 66.1% Greek_Thessaly + 33.9% Belorussian @ 3.34
7 52.8% Croatian + 47.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.42
8 65.3% Greek_Thessaly + 34.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.45
9 60.6% Ukrainian + 39.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.46
10 58.3% Greek_Thessaly + 41.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.49
11 69.5% Greek_Thessaly + 30.5% Estonian @ 3.51
12 72% Croatian + 28% Italian_Jewish @ 3.52
13 66.1% Croatian + 33.9% Ashkenazi @ 3.54
14 60.7% Ukrainian + 39.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.56
15 85% Bulgarian + 15% Estonian_Polish @ 3.68
16 56.3% Ukrainian + 43.7% South_Italian @ 3.68
17 59.6% Greek_Thessaly + 40.4% South_Polish @ 3.72
18 63.4% Greek_Thessaly + 36.6% Southwest_Russian @ 3.72
19 81.8% Bulgarian + 18.2% Ukrainian @ 3.77
20 87.5% Bulgarian + 12.5% Lithuanian @ 3.77
https://i.imgur.com/JqWAACv.jpg
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 08:35 PM
Serbian woman from Krajina.
#Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.19
2 North_Atlantic 26.83
3 West_Med 14.73
4 East_Med 11.61
5 West_Asian 9.59
6 Red_Sea 1
7 Oceanian 0.99
8 Amerindian 0.85
9 South_Asian 0.74
10 Northeast_African 0.47
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance:
1 Moldavian 2.91
2 Croatian 3.65
3 Hungarian 5.97
4 Serbian 6.67
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.11
6 Romanian 10.2
7 Austrian 10.23
8 East_German 10.71
9 South_Polish 10.71
10 Ukrainian 11.41
11 Bulgarian 12.34
12 Polish 14.23
13 Southweet_Russian 14.88
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.03
15 Russian_Smolensk 16.46
16 Estonian_Polish 17.11
17 West_German 17.43
18 Belorussian 17.67
19 South_Dutch 18.93
20 Kargopol_Russian 19.09
Mixed Population Sharing:
#Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.1% Croatian + 24.9% Romanian @ 1.47
2 89.1% Croatian + 10.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.5
3 78.8% Croatian + 21.2% Bulgarian @ 1.57
4 89.6% Croatian + 10.4% Central_Greek @ 1.62
5 90.9% Croatian + 9.1% South_Italian @ 1.65
6 58.4% Romanian + 41.6% Polish @ 1.66
7 66.7% Croatian + 33.3% Serbian @ 1.71
8 90.1% Croatian + 9.9% East_Sicilian @ 1.75
10 93.8% Croatian + 6.2% Armenian @ 1.77
11 90% Croatian + 10% West_Sicilian @ 1.8
12 93.1% Croatian + 6.9% Cyprian @ 1.82
13 92.3% Croatian + 7.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.82
14 92.3% Croatian + 7.7% Italian_Jewish @ 1.83
15 93.8% Croatian + 6.2% Assyrian @ 1.86
16 93.4% Croatian + 6.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 1.87
17 92.6% Croatian + 7.4% Turkish @ 1.87
18 93.9% Croatian + 6.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 1.89
19 53.6% South_Polish + 46.4% Bulgarian @ 1.9
20 94.1% Croatian + 5.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 1.92
^^
If someone is interested for her kit, or name and surname let speak to me on pm. I have already shown kit to some members including egy Magyar nő.
CommonSense
03-31-2020, 09:10 PM
Woman from Bosnia. Serbian father (from Zavidovići), Bosniak mother:
Kit GE4396977
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.54
2 North_Atlantic 22.68
3 East_Med 14.04
4 West_Med 13.52
5 West_Asian 12.62
6 East_Asian 1.45
7 Amerindian 1.23
8 Oceanian 0.9
9 South_Asian 0.83
10 Red_Sea 0.76
11 Northeast_African 0.43
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.17
2 Serbian 7.04
3 Croatian 8.18
4 Romanian 8.36
5 Bulgarian 9.57
6 Hungarian 10.32
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.59
8 Austrian 14.61
9 South_Polish 14.69
10 Ukrainian 14.86
11 East_German 15.52
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.17
13 Southwest_Russian 17.3
14 Polish 18.01
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.39
16 Russian_Smolensk 19.52
17 Tatar 20.13
18 Estonian_Polish 20.24
19 West_German 20.75
20 Belorussian 20.85
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Armenian @ 2.41
2 84.5% Croatian + 15.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.43
3 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Assyrian @ 2.53
4 64.9% Bulgarian + 35.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.69
5 82.9% Croatian + 17.1% Azeri @ 2.7
6 81.9% Croatian + 18.1% Turkish @ 2.73
7 59.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.6% Central_Greek @ 2.76
8 84.4% Croatian + 15.6% Kurdish @ 2.76
9 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.81
10 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Assyrian @ 2.81
11 90.9% Moldavian + 9.1% Armenian @ 2.84
12 63.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.6% South_Italian @ 2.84
13 85.5% Croatian + 14.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.9
14 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.92
15 91.3% Moldavian + 8.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.93
16 90.7% Moldavian + 9.3% Kurdish @ 2.93
17 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.94
18 59.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.99
19 89.8% Moldavian + 10.2% Azeri @ 2.99
20 91.4% Moldavian + 8.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.06
The interesting part are her mother's results. This is not the first Bosniak I've seen on gedmatch that has partial Gypsy ancestry. Looks like they're not so pure as you'd guess by how they talk about Serbians in online comments:
Kit RU6169471
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.4
2 North_Atlantic 19.29
3 West_Med 15.62
4 East_Med 12.71
5 West_Asian 10.87
6 South_Asian 5.2
7 Red_Sea 2.68
8 Oceanian 2.02
9 East_Asian 1.59
10 Northeast_African 0.6
11 Amerindian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.66
2 Serbian 9.07
3 Romanian 9.33
4 Bulgarian 9.97
5 Croatian 10.95
6 Hungarian 13.51
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.89
8 Austrian 17.09
9 Greek_Thessaly 17.13
10 Ukrainian 17.38
11 South_Polish 17.61
12 East_German 17.9
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.94
14 Southwest_Russian 19.96
15 Polish 20.57
16 Tatar 20.81
17 Russian_Smolensk 21.9
18 Estonian_Polish 22.53
19 North_Italian 22.56
20 West_German 22.68
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.7% Moldavian + 13.3% Syrian @ 4.86
2 88% Moldavian + 12% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.95
3 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.01
4 88.2% Moldavian + 11.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.01
5 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Assyrian @ 5.06
6 87.5% Moldavian + 12.5% Iranian @ 5.06
7 87.7% Moldavian + 12.3% Jordanian @ 5.11
8 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Samaritan @ 5.13
9 85.4% Moldavian + 14.6% Turkish @ 5.15
10 88% Moldavian + 12% Bedouin @ 5.16
11 86.4% Moldavian + 13.6% Azeri @ 5.16
12 88% Moldavian + 12% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.18
13 88.6% Moldavian + 11.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.2
14 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Cyprian @ 5.23
15 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Palestinian @ 5.26
16 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Armenian @ 5.26
17 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Kurdish @ 5.27
18 92.4% Moldavian + 7.6% Velamas @ 5.28
19 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Bangladeshi @ 5.29
20 92.5% Moldavian + 7.5% Dusadh @ 5.32
Pribislav
03-31-2020, 09:14 PM
Woman from Bosnia. Serbian father (from Zavidovići), Bosniak mother:
Kit GE4396977
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.54
2 North_Atlantic 22.68
3 East_Med 14.04
4 West_Med 13.52
5 West_Asian 12.62
6 East_Asian 1.45
7 Amerindian 1.23
8 Oceanian 0.9
9 South_Asian 0.83
10 Red_Sea 0.76
11 Northeast_African 0.43
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.17
2 Serbian 7.04
3 Croatian 8.18
4 Romanian 8.36
5 Bulgarian 9.57
6 Hungarian 10.32
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.59
8 Austrian 14.61
9 South_Polish 14.69
10 Ukrainian 14.86
11 East_German 15.52
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.17
13 Southwest_Russian 17.3
14 Polish 18.01
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.39
16 Russian_Smolensk 19.52
17 Tatar 20.13
18 Estonian_Polish 20.24
19 West_German 20.75
20 Belorussian 20.85
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Armenian @ 2.41
2 84.5% Croatian + 15.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.43
3 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Assyrian @ 2.53
4 64.9% Bulgarian + 35.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.69
5 82.9% Croatian + 17.1% Azeri @ 2.7
6 81.9% Croatian + 18.1% Turkish @ 2.73
7 59.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.6% Central_Greek @ 2.76
8 84.4% Croatian + 15.6% Kurdish @ 2.76
9 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.81
10 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Assyrian @ 2.81
11 90.9% Moldavian + 9.1% Armenian @ 2.84
12 63.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.6% South_Italian @ 2.84
13 85.5% Croatian + 14.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.9
14 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.92
15 91.3% Moldavian + 8.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.93
16 90.7% Moldavian + 9.3% Kurdish @ 2.93
17 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.94
18 59.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.99
19 89.8% Moldavian + 10.2% Azeri @ 2.99
20 91.4% Moldavian + 8.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.06
The interesting part are her mother's results. This is not the first Bosniak I've seen on gedmatch that has partial Gypsy ancestry. Looks like they're not so pure as you'd guess by how they talk about Serbians in online comments:
Kit RU6169471
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.4
2 North_Atlantic 19.29
3 West_Med 15.62
4 East_Med 12.71
5 West_Asian 10.87
6 South_Asian 5.2
7 Red_Sea 2.68
8 Oceanian 2.02
9 East_Asian 1.59
10 Northeast_African 0.6
11 Amerindian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.66
2 Serbian 9.07
3 Romanian 9.33
4 Bulgarian 9.97
5 Croatian 10.95
6 Hungarian 13.51
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.89
8 Austrian 17.09
9 Greek_Thessaly 17.13
10 Ukrainian 17.38
11 South_Polish 17.61
12 East_German 17.9
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.94
14 Southwest_Russian 19.96
15 Polish 20.57
16 Tatar 20.81
17 Russian_Smolensk 21.9
18 Estonian_Polish 22.53
19 North_Italian 22.56
20 West_German 22.68
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.7% Moldavian + 13.3% Syrian @ 4.86
2 88% Moldavian + 12% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.95
3 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.01
4 88.2% Moldavian + 11.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.01
5 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Assyrian @ 5.06
6 87.5% Moldavian + 12.5% Iranian @ 5.06
7 87.7% Moldavian + 12.3% Jordanian @ 5.11
8 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Samaritan @ 5.13
9 85.4% Moldavian + 14.6% Turkish @ 5.15
10 88% Moldavian + 12% Bedouin @ 5.16
11 86.4% Moldavian + 13.6% Azeri @ 5.16
12 88% Moldavian + 12% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.18
13 88.6% Moldavian + 11.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.2
14 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Cyprian @ 5.23
15 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Palestinian @ 5.26
16 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Armenian @ 5.26
17 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Kurdish @ 5.27
18 92.4% Moldavian + 7.6% Velamas @ 5.28
19 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Bangladeshi @ 5.29
20 92.5% Moldavian + 7.5% Dusadh @ 5.32
In NE Bosnia some Gypsies of Muslim religion started to mixing with Bosniaks long time ago. I have found that in Bosniak sources.
Woman from Bosnia. Serbian father (from Zavidovići), Bosniak mother:
Kit GE4396977
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.54
2 North_Atlantic 22.68
3 East_Med 14.04
4 West_Med 13.52
5 West_Asian 12.62
6 East_Asian 1.45
7 Amerindian 1.23
8 Oceanian 0.9
9 South_Asian 0.83
10 Red_Sea 0.76
11 Northeast_African 0.43
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.17
2 Serbian 7.04
3 Croatian 8.18
4 Romanian 8.36
5 Bulgarian 9.57
6 Hungarian 10.32
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.59
8 Austrian 14.61
9 South_Polish 14.69
10 Ukrainian 14.86
11 East_German 15.52
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.17
13 Southwest_Russian 17.3
14 Polish 18.01
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.39
16 Russian_Smolensk 19.52
17 Tatar 20.13
18 Estonian_Polish 20.24
19 West_German 20.75
20 Belorussian 20.85
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Armenian @ 2.41
2 84.5% Croatian + 15.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.43
3 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Assyrian @ 2.53
4 64.9% Bulgarian + 35.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.69
5 82.9% Croatian + 17.1% Azeri @ 2.7
6 81.9% Croatian + 18.1% Turkish @ 2.73
7 59.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.6% Central_Greek @ 2.76
8 84.4% Croatian + 15.6% Kurdish @ 2.76
9 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.81
10 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Assyrian @ 2.81
11 90.9% Moldavian + 9.1% Armenian @ 2.84
12 63.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.6% South_Italian @ 2.84
13 85.5% Croatian + 14.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.9
14 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.92
15 91.3% Moldavian + 8.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.93
16 90.7% Moldavian + 9.3% Kurdish @ 2.93
17 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.94
18 59.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.99
19 89.8% Moldavian + 10.2% Azeri @ 2.99
20 91.4% Moldavian + 8.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.06
The interesting part are her mother's results. This is not the first Bosniak I've seen on gedmatch that has partial Gypsy ancestry. Looks like they're not so pure as you'd guess by how they talk about Serbians in online comments:
Kit RU6169471
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.4
2 North_Atlantic 19.29
3 West_Med 15.62
4 East_Med 12.71
5 West_Asian 10.87
6 South_Asian 5.2
7 Red_Sea 2.68
8 Oceanian 2.02
9 East_Asian 1.59
10 Northeast_African 0.6
11 Amerindian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.66
2 Serbian 9.07
3 Romanian 9.33
4 Bulgarian 9.97
5 Croatian 10.95
6 Hungarian 13.51
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.89
8 Austrian 17.09
9 Greek_Thessaly 17.13
10 Ukrainian 17.38
11 South_Polish 17.61
12 East_German 17.9
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.94
14 Southwest_Russian 19.96
15 Polish 20.57
16 Tatar 20.81
17 Russian_Smolensk 21.9
18 Estonian_Polish 22.53
19 North_Italian 22.56
20 West_German 22.68
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.7% Moldavian + 13.3% Syrian @ 4.86
2 88% Moldavian + 12% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.95
3 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.01
4 88.2% Moldavian + 11.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.01
5 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Assyrian @ 5.06
6 87.5% Moldavian + 12.5% Iranian @ 5.06
7 87.7% Moldavian + 12.3% Jordanian @ 5.11
8 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Samaritan @ 5.13
9 85.4% Moldavian + 14.6% Turkish @ 5.15
10 88% Moldavian + 12% Bedouin @ 5.16
11 86.4% Moldavian + 13.6% Azeri @ 5.16
12 88% Moldavian + 12% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.18
13 88.6% Moldavian + 11.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.2
14 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Cyprian @ 5.23
15 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Palestinian @ 5.26
16 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Armenian @ 5.26
17 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Kurdish @ 5.27
18 92.4% Moldavian + 7.6% Velamas @ 5.28
19 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Bangladeshi @ 5.29
20 92.5% Moldavian + 7.5% Dusadh @ 5.32
But the woman herself scores less than 1% South Asian.
CommonSense
03-31-2020, 09:40 PM
But the woman herself scores less than 1% South Asian.
She probably still scores some South Asian and Middle Eastern on the company estimates, but I don't how much because I have her on FTDNA where I can't check.
Dušan
04-01-2020, 08:39 AM
Serbian woman from Krajina.
#Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.19
2 North_Atlantic 26.83
3 West_Med 14.73
4 East_Med 11.61
5 West_Asian 9.59
6 Red_Sea 1
7 Oceanian 0.99
8 Amerindian 0.85
9 South_Asian 0.74
10 Northeast_African 0.47
^^
If someone is interested for her kit, or name and surname let speak to me on pm. I have already shown kit to some members including egy Magyar nő.
I got her among my matches in Gedmetch. Surname Đurić and she is number 11.
This is my matches on Gedmatch. All Krajina Serbs (from todays Croatia).
Green dot 12 is me, and red dot is average dot of these 12 Krajina Serbs.
https://i.imgur.com/qntHeSe.png
Pribislav
04-01-2020, 12:34 PM
I got her among my matches in Gedmetch. Surname Đurić and she is number 11.
This is my matches on Gedmatch. All Krajina Serbs (from todays Croatia).
Green dot 12 is me, and red dot is average dot of these 12 Krajina Serbs.
https://i.imgur.com/qntHeSe.png
Yea, Đurić.
She has similar Baltic score as you (slightly lower), but higher NA.
Can you made Eartly_Slavic, Paleo-Balkan, Celto-Germanic calculator for her?
And for this Sandžakian Bosniak 96817
Pribislav
04-01-2020, 12:47 PM
And for this Sandžakian Bosniak 96817
This Sandžakian iz J2b, surname Tutuć.
And for this Sandžakian Bosniak 96817
Wow, straight up Bolgar. Also 20% for both East and West Med (I asked a question about that).
Pribislav
04-01-2020, 01:12 PM
Wow, straight up Bolgar. Also 20% for both East and West Med (I asked a question about that).
Sandžakians from East Sandžak are in vast majority of Albanian origin. This one is probably one of them.
Their ancestors were Catholic Albanians (Malesors) from northern Albania who settled in East Sandžak on Ottoman initiative in 18th century, Ottomans gave them land and privilegies for conversion on Islam.
East Sandžakians became bilingual in 19th century (except Albanian they started to speak Serbian which learned from islamized Serbs), after WW2 Albanian language among them almost disappeared. Today only few older Sandžakians still know Albanian language.
In Serbian Sandžak vast majority of Muslims are bosbiakized, and in Montenegrin Sandžak less but still significant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandžak
WeirdLookingFellow
04-01-2020, 01:18 PM
Woman from Bosnia. Serbian father (from Zavidovići), Bosniak mother:
Kit GE4396977
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.54
2 North_Atlantic 22.68
3 East_Med 14.04
4 West_Med 13.52
5 West_Asian 12.62
6 East_Asian 1.45
7 Amerindian 1.23
8 Oceanian 0.9
9 South_Asian 0.83
10 Red_Sea 0.76
11 Northeast_African 0.43
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.17
2 Serbian 7.04
3 Croatian 8.18
4 Romanian 8.36
5 Bulgarian 9.57
6 Hungarian 10.32
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.59
8 Austrian 14.61
9 South_Polish 14.69
10 Ukrainian 14.86
11 East_German 15.52
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.17
13 Southwest_Russian 17.3
14 Polish 18.01
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.39
16 Russian_Smolensk 19.52
17 Tatar 20.13
18 Estonian_Polish 20.24
19 West_German 20.75
20 Belorussian 20.85
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Armenian @ 2.41
2 84.5% Croatian + 15.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.43
3 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Assyrian @ 2.53
4 64.9% Bulgarian + 35.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.69
5 82.9% Croatian + 17.1% Azeri @ 2.7
6 81.9% Croatian + 18.1% Turkish @ 2.73
7 59.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.6% Central_Greek @ 2.76
8 84.4% Croatian + 15.6% Kurdish @ 2.76
9 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.81
10 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Assyrian @ 2.81
11 90.9% Moldavian + 9.1% Armenian @ 2.84
12 63.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.6% South_Italian @ 2.84
13 85.5% Croatian + 14.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.9
14 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.92
15 91.3% Moldavian + 8.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.93
16 90.7% Moldavian + 9.3% Kurdish @ 2.93
17 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.94
18 59.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.99
19 89.8% Moldavian + 10.2% Azeri @ 2.99
20 91.4% Moldavian + 8.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.06
The interesting part are her mother's results. This is not the first Bosniak I've seen on gedmatch that has partial Gypsy ancestry. Looks like they're not so pure as you'd guess by how they talk about Serbians in online comments:
Kit RU6169471
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.4
2 North_Atlantic 19.29
3 West_Med 15.62
4 East_Med 12.71
5 West_Asian 10.87
6 South_Asian 5.2
7 Red_Sea 2.68
8 Oceanian 2.02
9 East_Asian 1.59
10 Northeast_African 0.6
11 Amerindian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.66
2 Serbian 9.07
3 Romanian 9.33
4 Bulgarian 9.97
5 Croatian 10.95
6 Hungarian 13.51
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.89
8 Austrian 17.09
9 Greek_Thessaly 17.13
10 Ukrainian 17.38
11 South_Polish 17.61
12 East_German 17.9
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.94
14 Southwest_Russian 19.96
15 Polish 20.57
16 Tatar 20.81
17 Russian_Smolensk 21.9
18 Estonian_Polish 22.53
19 North_Italian 22.56
20 West_German 22.68
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.7% Moldavian + 13.3% Syrian @ 4.86
2 88% Moldavian + 12% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.95
3 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.01
4 88.2% Moldavian + 11.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.01
5 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Assyrian @ 5.06
6 87.5% Moldavian + 12.5% Iranian @ 5.06
7 87.7% Moldavian + 12.3% Jordanian @ 5.11
8 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Samaritan @ 5.13
9 85.4% Moldavian + 14.6% Turkish @ 5.15
10 88% Moldavian + 12% Bedouin @ 5.16
11 86.4% Moldavian + 13.6% Azeri @ 5.16
12 88% Moldavian + 12% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.18
13 88.6% Moldavian + 11.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.2
14 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Cyprian @ 5.23
15 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Palestinian @ 5.26
16 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Armenian @ 5.26
17 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Kurdish @ 5.27
18 92.4% Moldavian + 7.6% Velamas @ 5.28
19 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Bangladeshi @ 5.29
20 92.5% Moldavian + 7.5% Dusadh @ 5.32
With 0.83 noone would expect the woman to have any Gypsy ancestry. Could you post their Harappaworld results?
Dušan
04-01-2020, 01:21 PM
Yea, Đurić.
She has similar Baltic score as you (slightly lower), but higher NA.
Can you made Eartly_Slavic, Paleo-Balkan, Celto-Germanic calculator for her?
And for this Sandžakian Bosniak 96817
https://i.imgur.com/Z8Lo93M.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jKehyWH.jpg
Dušan
04-01-2020, 01:26 PM
I got her among my matches in Gedmetch. Surname Đurić and she is number 11.
This is my matches on Gedmatch. All Krajina Serbs (from todays Croatia).
Green dot 12 is me, and red dot is average dot of these 12 Krajina Serbs.
https://i.imgur.com/qntHeSe.png
As people can see, Krajina Serbs are not different from other Serbs.
Overlapping with Croats is minimal, and only individual.
There were no mixing with them.
Pribislav
04-01-2020, 01:44 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Z8Lo93M.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jKehyWH.jpg
Sandžos je jedan od Zukorloćevih talibana sa tkz. bošnjačkog dnk projekta, koji je zapravo sandžački dnk projekat.
WeirdLookingFellow
04-01-2020, 02:09 PM
Thanks Dusan, didn't see the kit nmb there.
Kit GE4396977
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 39.42
2 Mediterranean 22.58
3 Caucasian 22.55
4 Baloch 8.23
5 SW-Asian 2.75
6 SE-Asian 1.27
7 S-Indian 1.25
8 American 1.23
9 Papuan 0.58
10 E-African 0.11
Probably some other samples would be needed to properly state whether HarappaWorld is a good predictor of actual S. Indian ancestry.
Thanks Dusan, didn't see the kit nmb there.
Kit GE4396977
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 39.42
2 Mediterranean 22.58
3 Caucasian 22.55
4 Baloch 8.23
5 SW-Asian 2.75
6 SE-Asian 1.27
7 S-Indian 1.25
8 American 1.23
9 Papuan 0.58
10 E-African 0.11
Probably some other samples would be needed to properly state whether HarappaWorld is a good predictor of actual S. Indian ancestry.
Baloch isn't S-Indian. Gypsies score 20-25% S-Indian on HW.
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